For those of you who are sending death threats to me for the title, 😂😂😂 what day is it today? • There are things Dune did better than Star Wars and there are things Star Wars did better than Dune. • I LOVE both. Now which one do I like better? I’ll never tell. Ehh maybe I will. Idk. • I love the comments and the controversy though 😂😂❤ • I hope you guys enjoyed this video! Thank you so much for all the love and support
It's fine! Dune is better even though people won't like to hear or read it. That doesn't mean the Star Wars movie are not entertaining or a disaster. Dune is just better with character building and story telling.
Now ya gotta watch prt 2. I remember reading the books as a kid, they are soooo dense. So yeah, you're missing alot of the story bcz the only way to get it all in would be a series.
He is routinely drawing conclusions that don't come from the content of the movie. He's either read the book, the Wiki page, or someone is explaining it to him so he can pretend to be understanding the movie.
Dude really showed up for this one with maximum Alex focus, "strategically fucking", "they see what they've been told to see", "Paul is the mouse". Who is this Alex? 😂
@@owenmaleski2203 wydm lol for half the movie he thought that the Fremen were Harkonnen lol just because he said Paul is the mouse doesnt mean he knew stuff before hand that's an easy comparison to make ... the Dune books aren't as complicated as people make it to be you just have to pay attention
I couldn't believe how much Alex understood of this movie on a first watch haha. He called out half the plot immediately, and understood that Paul doesn't want his visions in the tent to come true. Amazingly perceptive. Alex, if you see this comment READ THE BOOK! Or listen to the audiobook. It's an incredible story, and there is so much more going on in the background that you miss.
Yeah, it's definitely one of those stories where getting the character's inner monologues doesn't disappoint. It also has some anime feel to it like seeing the death duel in the movie felt _so_ quick compared to the book where Paul's analyzing all potential moves while moving at super speeds himself, reacting to things in perceived slow motion, and even foreseeing stuff moments before. I love how much info Paul and Jessica pick up from minor voice inflections or inadvertent movements. It really depicts how crazy Divination would be as a power, seeing glimpses of so many parallel future realities and desperately hoping you avoid the bad ending.
had me shook bc i was excited to see the movie and watched it but didnt understand half as much as he did. like he realized early that some of Paul's visions are false/alt realities. i didnt know that til after jamis, and then hes picking up on all the subtext
I think it shows how great Denis Villenueve is at his craft. The movie shows you everything very purposefully and if you pay attention there's no chance of becoming lost.
Their "The One" had to be a male, but Jessica's daughter was supposed to marry a specific Harkonnen guy, and that would have produced "The One", but Jessica went somewhat her own way.
@@HK7Roiz Dude, why the F*CK would you write this spoiler, potentially ruining something for Alex? What is wrong with you? What is wrong with your brain?
"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain." The Litany Against Fear is one of the most recognizeable bits from Dune. That, and, "The Spice must flow."
I must drink beer. Beer is the mind killer. Beer is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my beer. I will permit it to pass over me and through me, and when it has gone past, I will turn the inner eye to see its path. When the beer is gone, there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
I have anxiety and chronic pain that is sometimes very quick onset, so i've been using the Litany Against Fear for YEARS to help moderate my response to sudden onset pain. If I let my autonomic system freak out, my brain will prioritize the pain signals, effectively boosting my perceived pain. But if I'm able to put the brakes on quickly enough, the pain doesn't keep spiking, I don't get crazy muscle spasms, and I return to my baseline pain more quickly. Even when it's still severe, I'm better able to handle it and do what I need to in order to treat it without my anxiety getting the best of me and kind of making me lock down and just be focused on the pain and feeling helpless. Sorry for the book post; I just... it's really effective for me.
I thought the desert mouse was symbolic to the philosophy of 'if humans are so far apart for so long, they would be considered alien to one another' as to play the fact that the only *actual* alien in the series was that mouse.
When Shadout Mapes asked Jessica if she knew the meaning of the crysknife, Jessica wasn’t sure what she meant, but didn’t want to look ignorant, so she temporized. She translated the word “knife” from Chakobsa (the Fremen language) to Galactic Standard, which became “maker of death.” However, she didn’t get past the first word before Mapes shrieked-because “The Maker” is one of the secret names of the Giant Sandworm among the Fremen; a name used only in their secret ceremonies and not ever told to offworlders. So if this foreign woman knew that the crysknife was from a Maker of the Deep Desert, she must truly be the Lisan al’Gaib, the one Mapes had been waiting for her entire life. Imagine you are an evangelical talking to someone in line, and they look you in the eye and suddenly morph into the Virgin Mary, complete with halo, backlighting, and attendant flying cherubs. You’d probably freak out too.
This is the one scene that's WAY BETTER in the 1984 version. Linda Hunt as Mapes absolutely sells the existential fanaticism like this is the best moment of her life and she's about to cry; in this scene it's just an awkward fake-yell
Dune is sick. It's been my favorite book since I was a teenager. Dune did for Science Fiction, what Lord of the Rings did for Fantasy. It is THAT important. And this adaptation was nearly perfect.
Favorite book and perfect adaptation don't go well for Dune movie. It's an amazing movie, but as far as adaptation goes, it goes way off rails, missing lots of points. Miniseries is still best as far as adaptations goes.
@@scorpion29a it was a great adaptation for the amount of time and effort they put in. I dont think it would nearly be as successful if it was a miniseries. Especially without as passionate of a director as Dennis Villenueve. Whatever the book readers complain about, it doesnt take away from the enjoyment non-reader audiences experienced.
@@prestonwuvsyou990 I meant the miniseries from year 2000-ish, that was the "by the book" adaptation. And as I said, the movie is great, but to anyone that is a fan of books, there is a lot of story missing/changed, that completly changes the story and characters, for the worse, and even if non-reader audience enjoys it, it doesn't mean they get the same depth of story and lore from it.
the dune books not just inspired star wars , dune basically started the whole sci-fi fantasy genre , without dune there wouldn't be star wars , warhammer 40k , star gate ,star trek etc.
The Foundation series by Isaac Asimov actally inspired the entire sci-fi genre and dune took inspo from 'foundation'. I love the dune books but we have to be truthful
@@abdulabdi5887 I mean, yeah... but without Dune, would it have gone anywhere? Impossible to say, but as far as we know, no. Dune is what took what Asimov did and showed the insane potential of it. Animation existed for quite some time before Walt Disney started drawing little animated shorts. But you can trace pretty much all of modern animation back to what he did with it. He took it and showed what could be done with it. Fantasy was around as well, but it wasn't until Tolkien wrote Lord of the Rings that people could see what it could be and do.
@@abdulabdi5887that's true but dune was still the franchise that really kicked sci-fi fantasy to what it is now ,and foundation was also inspired by something else like everything is , the earliest depiction's of sci-fi dates back to ancient times with the Mesopotamian's and the Epic of Gilgamesh , fact is we are writing stories to entertain our self's since we started civilizations .
Never heard of Dune, then watched the first movie, got super hyped, bought the books, watched part 2 and speedread the first three books...loved it, even though those are some weird ass books
@@julianbrgle9084Nah, at least try to read God Emperor. If you're really committed then read Heretics and Chapterhouse. Then stop, there are no books after that :)
Fun fact: I memorized the Litany Against Fear in freshman year of college so I could recite it to myself during tests when I was anxious. lol It's actually pretty helpful as a grounding exercise.
Not as a freshman, but i also used to recite the Litany Against Fear during my tests at UNI, and do so in English, even though my native language is Portuguese
@@aricjones6120 I’ve debated getting part of it tattooed at some point, but I’d want to work with a really good artist which is not likely to be something I can afford anytime soon Lol
@@PhilipePXF I’m glad to know I’m not alone! But I’m even happier that you also got some use out of it. Also, it would be super interesting to hear it translated into some other languages now that I think of it (properly translated, not google translated haha).
Lady Jessica was Duke Leto’s Bene Gesserit concubine, a lot of the High Houses have them. Though they did love each other very much. She even went against her sisterhood and gave him a son because he so desperately wanted one. She was told only to produce daughters. He wanted to marry her but she told him it would put House Atreides in a more powerful position if other houses felt that they could make an alliance with Leto through marriage. He named Paul his heir at his birth. I read the books (first one published in the 60s) after enjoying the film and when I read “if you strike me down I shall become more powerful than you can imagine.” I was like - Oh George Lucas fully ripped this off.
Not sure if he "ripped this off", but he definitely was inspired by it, sure. We can see it as a quote, not a ripoff. And I'm really glad that many people got this opportunity to learn the origin of it ;)
@@andrewmelnikov292Star Wars is unashamedly plagiarized from many many sources; but it's a very effective plagiarism, like a best-of distillation of storytelling. Lucas being unoriginal shouldn't at all take away from the fact he has good taste in sources and team members (for a while, at least) and is ingenuitive af. Same with Tarantino; his scenes are stolen as fuck, but he succeeds in putting all the good stuff in one place elevated by s-tier dialogue
Don't apologize for the title. Dune is essentially the granddaddy of modern Sci-Fi, especially Star Wars, amongst many others. It's a magnificent story if you ever fancy reading it. Keep in mind, Paul's visions are of "possible" futures. Some things are clearer and more sure, like his mother being pregnant. Other things are more nebulous, divergent paths that only clarify once he's chosen one way or another. The spice is helping awaken his latent power and he's terrified of it and what it might mean.
Your excitement is highly understood. Never stop smiling, Alex. Your energy is what had me sticking around. With that said, who would’ve thought that Moon Knight would get along with Thanos so well? Or should I say Cable? Then of course we have evil Drax being a real destroyer.
Anyone who says that Dune is too slow, boring, and/or hard to understand is so full of it. If even Alex, who can find enjoyment in some of the worst written action-movie garbage I've seen, is able to be engaged and attentive enough to understand just about everything going on in this movie, then ya'll have no excuse. Just pay attention and actively engage with the film, turn your brain back on and don't go watch Dune with Marvel-slop level expectations.
When i watched part one in cinema with my mother and stepdad my stepdad fell asleep after like 20 min (he denies it to this day) and then complained at the end that he couldnt get the story and that it was a bad film (cuz he sleeped through the important middle that build up the end). It really is just people who dont try to understand the movie that dont and then complain
In the book, Paul describes his visions as standing on a hill, and seeing a road heading off into the distance. You can see where it rises over a hill, but then it dips into a valley and you can't see it until it goes up a hill again. He can see pieces of the future, but not how to get to them. Every choice he makes can lead him to that vision, or alter it. Which is actually a really cool way to do it, making it a little less OP of a thing to have. He still has to make the right choices to attain, or avoid, certain visions.
The interesting part about Paul’s visions is that they may not be completely accurate but they are usually true. For example Jamis did teach Paul about the desert but not in the way seen in the vision.
@@fuzzyapple Young Paul only sees some possibilities, his visions are incomplete but what happens is directly link to the path he choose to walk. After he takes the water he will see all possibilities and know the path, the golden path of which he will want no parts. So he takes another one, the one that gives him more time with Chani.
The year 10,191 is how they measure time in this universe. For us it's actually more like 20,000 years from now. "The One" was supposed to be a girl so that she could be married off to a Harkonnen. This would unite the two families and then the child of this union would have become the "Great One." But, the Duke really wanted a boy, so Jessica disobeyed the Sisterhood and gave him a boy. This boy would have all the powers of the One and the potential to create offspring even more powerful. But, being a male, he now can't marry into House Harkonnen. Jamis, angry that Paul snuck up on him during their first encounter basically created his own future. Paul's visions come in threes. Like seeing three distinct timelines or all possible futures. 1) Jamis teaches Paul the ways of the desert. 2) Jamis kills Paul. 3) Paul kills Jamis. Jamis basically chose which future by getting his feelings hurt and demanding a fight with Paul. If Jamis had just let go of the fact Paul bested him, then future #1 would have come true. If Paul had neglected his studies, "I'm not in the mood to fight," then future #2 would have come true.
@@starbrand3726 foreseen or manufactured? There is a theme of artificial influence going on - “they see what they’re told to see” - and Bene Gesserit said they’d already infiltrated and laid the foundation down with the freman already to make his life easier or something like that
@@HQofrandomlol clone wars had more brutality, war crimes, terrorism, torture ext than any of the movies. It may have started off as a kids show, but towards the end it is some of the darkest Starwars to date.
Animated violence and sexuality is rated differently to that of live action, illustrated and written violence and sexuality. They're different mediums. As for an adult version of Star Wars, sure why not. I just wonder if the whole _"this isn't what George Lucas would've wanted"_ argument would continue since George Lucas created Star war for 12 year olds.
FYI that dude who rolled his eyes and did math in his mind is a mentat. Mentats are like human computers and they're created with the help of the spice as well. And they're needed because computers and any type of electronics are illegal in this universe due to a war against AI that happened a long time ago. It's also the reason that seeker drone needed a human operator, because it's mechanical, no computers. By proxy it's also kind of a reason the spice is so valuable. Navigators who are required for interstellar travel are a product of the spice as well. As are Bene Gesserit. So pretty much everything is a result of using the spice and revolves around it one way or another.
Big film nerd here - part 1 is a necessary evil in terms of exposition for those unfamiliar with the lore (there is game of thrones levels of lore in this series that spans thousands of years) part 2 is absolutely worth it
funny, i played the p0rn parody game version of Dune before watching any of the movies or reading the books. And the game is remarkably faithful to the story, so most of my lore understanding comes from there lmao.
"Wait. He's not doing the slide..." The worm's already coming to the vibrations of the harvester. I don't think a boy's footsteps are going to make much of a difference....
It IS better because it takes itself seriously. We have been mentally ready for something that felt serious. Star Wars is just too silly. I loved how there were no stupid looking aliens in DUNE. They weren’t trying to sell toys that didn’t belong. DUNE doesn’t treat you like you’re stupid, in spite of the exposition dumps/voiceovers that are necessary to keep the story moving. And still, it forces you to think about the connecting tissue.
It was so sweet how quickly you went from condemning Dr. Yueh to sympathizing with him once he said the Harkonnens had his wife. You clearly love your wife very much ❤ Great reaction, as always!
Fun Fact ! Dune came before Star Wars, Dune was first a book which published in 1965 by Frank Herbert, George Lucas took some inspiration from the book and created Star Wars, the first Dune Movie took inspiration from George Lucas and the ground breaking visuals his Star Wars movies had at the time in the 70s, I deeply love both and also appreciate and enjoy that both took inspiration from each other to create both masterpieces.
You could say this about any epic that came before star-wars. LOTR, Dune, Nordic Mythology, Greek Mythology, even the bible could all be stated as "inspiring" Starwars, Lucas was an anthropology major.
@@silkpursuit Very true, but it doesn't nullify from the fact that both actually did take inspiration from each other and it is a very well known thing, you're talking about possibilities, and "What If" . I'm not here to say Star War wouldn't exist without Dune or vise verse, because I love both, just wanted to post a fun fact for Alex read, have a good one brother !
@@silkpursuit Many of those all DID inspire star wars, but so did Dune. Not even an 'if' about it, Frank Herbert even got (maybe a little tongue-in-cheek, maybe seriously) salty about it
@@silkpursuitliterally. Dc & marvel have copied each other a hundred times. Doesn’t make one more superior on which specific thing they did first because that’d be playing a game you can’t win
@@ohgryph Im aware of when dune came out. I’m not talking about what if’s. I personally disagree with this rhetoric that Dune heavily influenced Starwars. Dune did not invent the chosen one trope, it’s not even close to the same considering Luke is not the chosen one. The Bene Gesserit are just women who manipulate royals, while Jedi are generals of peace and operate in completely different ways (they both just happen to use mindtricks). Lucas also based them off of monks, buddhists, taoists etc, unlike dune. The desert planet of Tatooine has little to actually due with the plot as most of the movies are spent elsewhere. Not on one unliveable planet. The reasoning for the avoidance of automation for both properties are also completely different. There maybe tiny infinitesimal pieces that had some hand within inspiration, but in all reality the two properties have barely anything in common outside of both dealing in science-like elements. Hell they are even in different genres of film. Cheers.
Its still crazy to know that Hans Zimmer did not one, not two but THREE soundtracks for Dune: Part One. The music has been a work of art and I love how different each motif for the characters, planets and ancient houses sound. For example, House Atreides have the proudful bagpipes. House Harkonnen have what we call the infamous "war horns," which is actually a cello or violin instrument that was distorted or manipulated into sounding like it was brass. The Sardaukar have the ominous throat singing and the Bene Gesseit has a series of women singing, chanting and whispering to give them a bit of that snake-like charm. I've heard the music countless times at this point and never get bored. When Dune: Part 2 does come out, I'm looking forward to seeing your reaction, Alex!!!!
26:29 "that's badass" - because the ship was hit by shield-piercing weapon (like the Leto by small injector few seconds before") to slowly penetrate the shield, and then explode. And the shield is holding the explosion from within, after moment it fails and then we see and hear the explosion. Visual orgies. 36:30 "you try to kill the sandworm?" 44:33 - the reaction is awesome :D 42:53 - "may thy knife chip and shatter". krispel is holding together by the bio electricity of its wielder. So he is basically saying "may you die and in death, the knife shall broke".
The thing that makes me feel bad for Alex is that if he saves movies for his reactions, he can't see them when they're released in theaters, and some movies are so great in theaters. I kind of hate it for him. But I respect and honor the sacrifice. 😅 I hope he's got a theater that may show it sometime, because he deserves to see it on the big screen! Also, I've had the flu and DOUBLE PNEUMONIA, and I've been saving watching this video for as long as I could, to be, like, alert enough to enjoy it, but also feeling badly enough that I need the distraction. I only made it three days. Le sigh.
It looks like he’s watching movies on a monitor too. I think some of these reactors should invest in a theater room or a “man cave”. Having a projector and a surround sound system can really imitate the theater experience. Edit: hope you start feeling better soon.
Dune, the novels are masterclass in social commentary blended with masterful fantasy world-building. The movies are a masterclass in visual sci-if storytelling and adaptation. A critique of messianic figures and religious, dogmatic cultism. It’s easy to see how the framework of the story directly influenced Lucas and Star Wars in a great way. The franchise is definitely GOATED in more ways than one.
PAUL: "What does it mean that I could be the One?" THE ARCHITECT: "The function of the One is now to return to the Source, allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry, reinserting the prime program. After which you will be required to select from the matrix 23 individuals, 16 female, 7 male, to rebuild Zion."
So, the box in the test... it's empty. It uses nerve induction. It directly stimulates the nerves responsible for feeling pain. And it ramps it up and up and up. To the brain, all pain is is a nerve sending an impulse up saying "ow." So they can literally make your feel like the flesh is searing and burning off your hand. Calling him "human" was an extremely high compliment. As she said, an animal will chew it's own limb off to get out of a trap. And asked what he would do. Will you be an animal, or will you focus and control your nature and be a human. The Bene Gesserit have taught themselves over many centuries, the ability to control, at a cellular level, their bodies. They can move faster, endure longer, etc than anyone. They can read emotions and feelings in people by seeing their pulse change, or sweat beads forming. In fact, some of them become so good at this they are called Truthsayers. You can't lie to them. They can control the gender of any child they have by altering their internal chemistry at the right time. If you inject them with poison then can slow down their body systems and analyze the poison molecularly with their mind and CREATE an antidote for it using their own cells. They are insanely powerful. And they have operated from the shadows for thousands of years, carefully crossing bloodlines by marriage and having the right gender child to create the DNA that would be powerful enough to be the one they seek.
Ya its a Marvel reunion. You've got Drax, MJ, Moon Night, Dr. Erik Selvig, and Thanos/Cable all in one non-Marvel film. And then DC Aquaman but we don't talk about those movies.
And you have the Polka-Dot Man as Piter de Vries (the Baron's advisor) and Cameron Poe as Duke Leto. Oh, to through another big franchise in the mix: Ronon Dax from Stargate: Atlantis (Jason). And before I forget, Anton Chigurh (Javier Bardem) as Stilgar.
True for most fan-bases, only people who care about a franchise will develop strong opinions about it. This is especially true for adaptations and sequels where the biggest critics are hardcore fans 9 times out of 10.
3:25 - The idea behind the Voice is that every human is predisposed by biology (species), sociology (culture), and psychology (individual experience) to be receptive to suggestion if coded appropriately. The Voice is the application of training a human past the breaking point to both be a perfect observer and notice all the little cues that tell you what range will work (this is called "registering") and then using insane levels of neuro-muscular training (Prana-Bindu) to have perfect control over every part of the body to generate the right tones, overtones, and undertones to hit that spot.
Some fun facts about Dune: . Yeah, there is a 1984 movie but we don't talk about it. The source material is a 1965 novel largely considered on of the most important an influential pieces in science fiction. . Frank Herbert, the author of the book, was actually kind of pissed about the similarities between Dune and Star Wars. In the 5th book of the series he describes a material called "Three P-O" that is a cheep substitute for steel the masses use to build houses. . Dune (2021) and Dune: Part Two (2024) are absolute dream projects for the director Denis Villeneuve. He has storyboards he and his friend drew when they were 15yo for a imaginary Dune movie and some of them actually ended up inspiring some of the shots in the movies.
Wait until you see the 2nd movie. 😅 There will be no contest at that point. Even as a Star Wars lover, I can’t be out here lying and saying Star Wars is better because it just isn’t. Star Wars is generally very audience friendly, but with that depth is lost and Dune has a lot of it all the time. I can go on and on about the intricacy of the world of Dune.
Part 2 was bad as someone who has not read the books. It was insanely slow and rushed at the same time, had nonsensical plot holes all over it, main characters were bland with zero chemistry, villains were cartoonish and uninteresting, and none of the moments which were supposed to be dramatic were dramatic at all. And don't even get me started on how shit the set design was. Part 1 kept me interested, part 2 kept me checking the clock in confusion waiting for something, anything of interest to happen.
OG trilogy is better. Star Wars deals with the most real battle there is: good vs evil. Those movies are massive because they hit the core of our souls. Dune doesn’t have any deep themes or good lessons to teach. It’s just pessimism and negativity. The only theme of these movies is don’t fall for charismatic leaders and don’t trust religion. Our “hero” just continues to corrupt himself and kills tons of people.
@@invictus7736 yes Part 2 was all over the place! The cuts were weird, the pacing was bizarre. I feel like I would have enjoyed it in tv format. Like when Paul is supposed to go to the Dune and it's a dangerous journey... Then it just cuts to them months later in a different setting. The whole film was like that, drove me nuts!
I can not believe they had Thanos playing the same character that Professor X played and then they did not even bother to cast anyone in the role that the pug played. (I am referencing to the Dune movie from back in 1984)
@@packedentertainment2866 Because it's the same group of 10 actors that get cast for everything instead of finding new faces that we all know are out there waiting for a chance. How about a little love for Drax too? He was in there. Doctor Selvig from Thor and Avengers? Yup! Yelena? Got her. MJ from the Spider-man movies? Check!
@@robertreichle1 well Florence Pugh became big because of Ari Aster’s second instant classic Midsommar which lander her Black Widow. Meaning before Black Widow
The writing of this series is insane. Even though at the end of part one, Paul kills jamis, the vision of Jamis teaching him the way of the desert techinically did happen, even though it wasn't exactly as the vision foretold, Jamis tought paul that to survive and thrive in the desert you must fight. tickled my gooch a little. P.S huge fan alex love your vids
Congratulations... you figured out the basic plot faster than pretty much every reactor I've watched. At 8:46 you nailed it. It's a setup. The emperor working together with Baron Harkkonen created the trap. Destroy equipment, etc as they leave, have an invasion force ready to go, get extra support from the Emperor's own personal army of the most feared soldiers in the universe, and have a traitor. Wipe out the Atreides. Harkkonens win their blood feud with Atreides, The Emperor gets rid of a noble who is rising in popularity among all the houses, and due to his advisors Gurney, Thuffir, and Duncan, has the only army that could stand up to the Emperor's. THe movie distills it way down, in the book the ins and outs of all of this are amazing to read through. But well done for putting it together so quickly. The story is amazing, and it's not going to go quite where you expect it to.
Bull fighting (in one way or another) is a Atreides* tradition - all the way back to Mycenean times (where it also included jumping over the bull) - it is the family of Agamemnon and Menelaus from the Trojan War. * Atreides means son of Atreus - who is the father - maybe grandfather (in which case thie son died before he could inherit) - of Agamemnon and Menelaus. Comparatively it's similar to O'Brien and McDougall. Frank Herbert wrote Dune in 1963 (serilalized in Analog magazine and collected inbook form in 1965) and 5 sequels. He left extensive notes of background information which his son, Brian Hebert, and Kevin J. Anderson have used to write prequels and sequesls of the universe he created. George Lucas was ispired by (or outright stole from) Dune. The skeleton of a sand burrowing creature similar to the sandworms is one of the first things we see on Tatooine in A New Hope; smuggling spice (he didn't even bother to use another name) and the Tusken tribes reminiscent of the freman - are "a tribute" to Dune
@@mimifernandes89if he does he'd be better off watching the 3 hour cut Spicediver put on TH-cam it's so much better than the version Lynch was forced to make
Eww is right about the black bathwater. It looks funky but but the Baron was detoxing from the small amount of toxic gas he did get. The electronic shields vibrate at a frequency to keep out almost everything, but it can't keep out literally everything or you'd die of oxygen deprivation while wearing one. Gases are slowly exchanged through the shield to allow this, & the doctor knew this, which is why he chose poison gas for the Duke to deliver. He knew the Baron wouldn't touch anything on the Duke so it couldn't even be a substance on the clothes or belongings. But because the shield slowed the gas, the Baron had time to use his anti-gravity belt to quickly get to the far corner of the ceiling & wait there for the poison to get sucked into the air vent filterss after killing everyone else in the room.
As much of a Star Wars fan as I am, I have to unapologetically hand the title of the better science fiction universe to Dune. Not only did it lay the foundation for much of what Star Wars started from in A New Hope, it also inspired countless other universes. The world building the first novel was incredible. While Star Wars in my opinion has a one up in terms of how expansive the universe is, I chalk that up to it being expanded upon by numerous authors over the years while Dune (if you only count Frank Herbert’s work) has only been written by one author over a very short period of time, encompassing six books. Now if we are talking about movies, both Dune Part I and II are far superior works of cinema than any of the Star Wars movies. I think that is undeniable from a technical standpoint. Entertainment wise however, Star Wars still has my heart with films such as The Empire Strikes Back and Revenge Of The Sith. I would certainly rank those above Dune Part I. Dune Part II is teetering on the edge of becoming my favorite science fiction movie of all time because I don’t think I’ve ever felt the way that film made me feel. Literal goosebumps and pure awe when Paul Atreides rallied the Fremen people to his Holy Crusade. Pure cinematic masterpiece.
Star Wars is a masterclass in simple accessible storytelling that nails all the beats we love from a millenia of stories. But Dune is actually well-written.
I can't remember exactly how much, but it's actually not just year 10191, but if I'm not mistaken actually around 12.000 years more than that as it actually takes place 20.000 years into the future.
I don't think we ever get a clear answer as to how far in the future it is in the main novels (not counting Brian Herbert fanfiction, obviously.) All we know is that the Spacing Guild has been around for 10191 years at the start of the first novel.
@@nathancollins1715-I’m glad you acknowledged what utter trash Brian Herbert’s scribblings are. I mean I know we all need cash, but he really whored out his father’s vision for a few shekels.
According to the Dune wiki, the Spacing Guild was founded in 11,075 AD, so 10,191 "After Guild" would be the year 21,266 on our calendar. Subtract out our 2024 years and it's a bit over 19,000 years in the future.
Okay, Alex...a couple of things... 1) You're right, this is a film that demands a lot of attention. 2) Baron Harkonnen has a "suspensor belt", and anti-graity device that allows him to move. In the novel, it only helps him to walk, but in every film, he uses it to fly. For this version, the belt is more like a graft to his spinal column, that you could kind of see when you first see him in the steam. He is meant to be revolting. 3) The mouse is a kangaroo mouse, a desert creature. The Fremen call the mouse "muad'dib" (teacher). This is important....just saying... 4) While George Lucas has never said that any part of Dune inspired Star Wars, Frank Herbert, the novelist of Dune, pointed out many similarities (I think it was somewhere between 12 and 15 similarities). And although he never did, Herbert would sometimes joke that he could sue Lucas for the similarities. 5) In every film version of Dune, Duncan Idaho was kind of glossed over until this one. He was a badass in the novel. Duncan is a Swordmater of Ginaz, the most badass warriors in the Imperium, and only a Swordmaster of Ginaz could take on that many Saudaukar for as long as he did, taking as many out, before dying himself. 6) The full quote from the novel by Frank Herbert: "“I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.” 7) 38:07 - That sludge is spice that the Baron is bathing in. Spice has healing properties, and the Baron has stockpiled massive amounts. He is using the spice to heal from the poison that he was aflicted by when Leto bit on the tooth. The thing about spice that is not covered in the film, but is in the books...the spice smells very strongly like cinnamon. 8) This was just the first half of the first novel, Dune. There is so much yet to come....
Finally someone who has read the books^^ And yeah, to your point 4: the "inspiration" Lucas took from the first book is downright plagiarism^^ SOOOO many things are basicly copied.
They don't really cover it, but paul atradies also recieved mentat training (mentats are literally human computers), the mentat are so advanced in computational thought that they can predict "see" the future, paul is baiscally a grand master level mentat.
This first movie took a ton of time when it came to world building. There were so many characters to introduce. They introduced an entirely new planet, sandworms, the Fremen, and politics/rivalries. They crammed so much into this and they still had to omit so much because the books are PACKED full of stuff. The 2nd movie had a lot more action, but even then they still had to keep some stuff out of it because there was just too much for a movie. I think they did about as good a job as possible without bogging it down and making it boring. The first movie is great, but the 2nd movie is amazing. Now fingers crossed that we get Dune: Messiah and we get all that really fun/weird stuff that's to come.
I don’t think they explain it in the movie, but Leto’s father was killed by one of those bulls. I’m pretty sure the bull-head that they have hanging in their house in Caladan is THE bull that killed him.
Baron Harkonnen didn't die from the poison because of the shield, which warded off some of the initial blast, and because he wears an antigravity harness thingy to support his weight (which is why he's always floating just above the floor); he basically hit the panic button on it when Leto breathed out that poison gas. This jetted him up and away from Leto fast enough that more of the poison didn't seep past the shield, he didn't breathe in a fatal dose, and it kept him hovering way up at the ceiling out of the gas cloud until he could be rescued. He *was* severely injured by the poison, though, and required extensive treatment to recover.
Fantastic reaction! As many have already commented, you picked up on almost every important point in the movie, including the nature of Paul's visions (the fact that they represent different possible futures, and the choices he makes influences which ones come true). Don't know if you're planning to wait to see Dune Part Two until you can record a reaction to it, but I strongly recommend you make an exception and SEE IT FIRST IN A THEATER ON THE BIGGEST SCREEN YOU CAN FIND (ideally IMAX). Then you can record a commentary on your second viewing after the movie is available on streaming platforms. It's just too amazing of a cinematic experience to miss seeing it in a theater.
I read Dune when I was a teenager, my first foray into sci-fi. As hard as I tried, I just couldn't get my head around it. Then I watched the 1984 movie and I finally understood the book- I re-read it straight away and loved it. This new Dune took my breath away. It is stunning. I'm watching part 2 tomorrow, and after you refreshed my memory, I cannot wait.
@@nathancollins1715 I've been told that! Not sure if it was hearing the strange words said aloud that made the difference or if I just gelled with Lynch. I was the only person I knew who got Twin Peaks, too. Let's go with the first one eh?
@@JustMe-ks8qc Don't get me wrong, I love Lynch's work and I actually really like the 1984 Dune. I just think it's funny that the movie known for being extremely obtuse and inexplicable with some of its concepts was more intelligible to you than the source material, lol. You must speak Lynch's secret language!
I've been a fan of Star Wars for as long as I can remember, but I honestly do find myself enjoying Dune, far more. The books are amazing, and Denis's movies are absolutely top tier. I will always love Star Wars, always... but Dune is just something else for me. The lore is so enthralling and extensive, and I absolutely love it all.
As a kid I saw Dune while spending the weekend at a friend's house. I loved it. Then I noticed her mom had the books... which (nerd that I am) I immediately started reading. This new version does a great job bringing the story to screen. And your reactions/commentary always crack me up.
Someone probably already mentioned this, but Dune, as a a novel, predates Star Wars by 20 years. It is no secret that George Lucas drew heavily from Dune to build Star Wars universe. Many other sci-fi movies and novels were inspired by Dune, but none quite measure up to it. Even this magnificent visualization by Denis Villeneuve is a simplification of the source material. It does though try it's best to convey the most important message of Dune: "Beware of the charismatic leaders."
Fun fact: doug marcaida (the "it will keal" guy) was actually one of the fight coordinators for this. Anything that involved the swords or crys knives, was coordinated by him. The form is called kali, originating from the Phillipines. The salute that jason mamoa did before fighting the sardaukar was directed towards him. That too was a traditional philpino salute.
Paul's visions are more warnings of possible outcomes rather then seeing what the future is. So depending on Paul's choices determines what events will come to pass.
He sees possible futures, because the future is just that, one of many conceivable outcomes. If you have the foresight to see the future, inevitably the future will change.
Dude the visions are possible futures and very metaphorical, when Paul kills Jamis it also kills the old paul he needed to overcome that to move onto his new destiny. and in that way Jamis "taught" paul the ways of desert. You got it a little by the end but yea
Yep, Mentats use extensive training and drugs to be literally human calculators, because "thinking machines" were forbidden by imperial decree ever since the Uprising of the A.I. in distant history in the Dune universe. It's explained better in the first _Dune_ movie adaptation by David Lynch from 1984 (which also had a 4 hour extended director's cut), the movie starring Kyle MacLachlan as Paul Atreides, Jürgen Prochnow as Duke Leto Atreides, Patrick Stewart as Gurney Halleck, and Sting played Feyd Rautha-Harkonnen in a red speedo and crazy hair
Love that you made the "Alaskan Bull Worm" reference, because that's actually a DUNE reference in SpongeBob. Sandy even says "Wormsign" at one point in the episode.
I know the title is click bait but I still wanna say there’s ppl that enjoy a simple sweet fantasy that’s positive and gives them hope while others enjoy a dark and more realistic story involving politics and human struggles (like GoT and Dunes to me). IMO these 2 are completely different genre. Edit: ok well ppl argue that SW is not a “sweet” story per se, I agree, I’m sorry that English isn’t your first language so I often struggle to find the right word to describe what I feel. What if I say SW (the OT) is more about “redemption” (which takes a more positive side) vs Dune more about “revenge” (darker vibe)? I’ve read neither novel this is just what I grasp from watching the movies. While SW being good old kind ppl saves the day, Dune is more like “you killed my family, prepare to die” while also becoming messiah and it just makes the audience feel SO good. Honestly besides from both set in space I see no comparison, the focus of story is different. Ps from a gamer perspective this is like comparing legend of Zelda breath of the wild to every other open world game even when they have very different core gameplay/mechanics/focus 😂 lol internet is literally spreading toxic everywhere.
star wars should not be considered just a 'simple sweet fantasy', that's part of the reason the franchise is SO bad now. It wasn't treated that way 10 years ago
Star Wars is overall positive, BUT as another commenter said, it is not a "sweet" story. Uncle Owen and Aunt Berru get torched, a dude gets his hand chopped off in a bar fight, a planet gets blown up and genocided. And then we have Empire Strikes Back, a masterpiece .Yes, compared to Dune it is more simple and positive, much less political, but it had its darkness too. Thankfully Andor now exists which is fixing Star Wars to make it much more fleshed out.
I do think of Dune as the superior sci-fi story that's more adult-oriented, but I'm still a pretty hardcore Star Wars OG trilogy fan regardless. Star Wars really is a fantasy story, a classic hero's journey, good versus evil. Dune is a sci-fi epic where there's no such thing as pure black or pure white, it's morally ambiguous in all the different aspects of human ecology (religion, economy, politics, etc.), and comes off as more realistic and relatable to real life. I'll watch whatever fits my mood better, but I truly like both. The thing however, as others have pointed out, you can only take the evil versus good story trope so far, over so many sequels (and TV series)... Lucas tried to make the prequels darker, coincidentally, having a character falling to the dark side not unlike Paul in Dune, but also by injecting [uninteresting] political schemes, but Lucas being a terrible script writter and director, and trying to appeal to every demographic imaginable, it failed horribly. And the Disney sequels... well... I don't know what those tried to be... I just ignore them.
@@xen0bia If Star Wars just stayed the OT then keeping it good versus evil and having the Empire just be vague bad guys was fine. Once they kept going on them more questions arise and more depth is needed. Andor was the prequels we should have got and the world building needed for Star Wars at this point. It is fleshing out how the Empire operates and what life is like under the Empire for every day people as well as the planning and maintaining of the terror state in the halls of the security and intelligence organs of the empire. The problem with the prequels we got was that I think George Lucas wanted to depict the rose of gas ism but like most liberals, he lacks any understanding of what fascism is and what causes it. Ultimately, it is reduced to an individual personality rather than understanding the larger historical, economic and social forces at play. "It was all Palpatine" is just as flimsy as "It was all Hitler" or how you hear today "It is all Trump" or "all Putin." If it was all Hitler, then how come we also had Mussolini? If it was all Putin and Trump, how do we get Orban and Meloni? On the other hand, Tony Gilroy has a much deeper understanding and Andor is actually showing fascism with a much greater depth of understanding of the phenomenon. And in Andor, the Empire is still evil. The rebellion is still good and justified. But Andor trusts its audience with a higher degree of complexity and ethical gray areas. Andor and Rogue One don't continue to depict war as a fun adventure ride, but instead shows the moral cost of waging struggle. They show the price of what such a struggle demands and what compromises become necessary. It doesn't pretend that war and rebellion are innocent, even when they are justified.
@@AdanALW Yeah I keep hearing going things about Andor and how even the rebels are morally ambiguous, but it's a little too late. I also don't have Disney+ and don't care to get it. And now, with Dune part 1 & 2 being around for me to enjoy, I care even less. Been re-reading the entire sage too. /shrug
The fact that Alex understood the movie, without knowing anything about the books (better then i thought he would, i mean "he is the desert mouse!" ... how the fk did he got that?) is proof that this movie did a good job in adapting the books. They have got the voice right (the blackout they showed when the voice is used on Paul by the reverend mother ... gold, pure gold), They got the shields and knife fights right, THEY DID THE SAND WALK ... i was sooooo pissed that the 1984 adaptation didn't showed that, and there is another thing in the books that i wished they could show, in the book when they walk through the desert with a large group of fremens, Paul closes his eyes and he can only hear and feel his steps and his mother steps ... the rest of the group, the fremens, just blended with the sounds of the desert. They did killed someone that should have not died, his fremen trainer and friend, but it's implied that he has already trained Paul and befriended him IN HIS VISIONS ... empowering 2 things with this death ..... 1 fremen see him more as a messiah because he knows everything about their ways without being trained ... and 2 it shows that Paul's visions are NOT the future, but POSIBLE futures (helps in understanding the "Dune Messiah" book and "Children of Dune" book ... helps in understanding the golden path) ..... sooo ... all in all its a win.
Seems like Dune Messiah (the second book) is pretty much greenlit but it would be ages before we see anything, it'd be a very different creature compared to the two Dune films Denis has made so far
Some facts about Dune: - It's set 10191 years after the Butlerian Jihad, when humans overthrew AI, which took place 10000 years from now. - Thufir Hawat, one of Leto's advisors, is a Mentat, or a human supercomputer. "Thinking machines" are outlawed, so Mentats do all the calculations n stuff. - The Spacing Guild navigators are so dependant on spice that they will literally die without it. - Bene Gesserit have the ability to determine the sex of their unborn children, hence why the Reverend Mother admonishes Jessica for not having a daughter; Jessica chose to have a son for Leto. - Water is poisonous to sandworms. - I'm not sure if this is the case for these films, but in the book, Kynes (who is a man in the book) is Chani's father.
4:37 - Thufir Hawat (eyes-roll math god) is a Mentat. Since AI is outlawed (can't make machines to replicate a human mind), humans had to be trained well enough to do the big calculations themselves. Mentats are what happens when you train a human past the breaking point to take in data and process it. Mentats, Spacing Guild Navigators, and the Bene Gesserit are all examples of the peak of human performance in a specific discipline. The movie honors the book without specifically mentioning a lot of stuff, it's meant to be able to stand on its own. From the book we learn that Paul is being trained both in the Bene Gesserit "Way" and as a Mentat. He's told about it in the book in a scene that doesn't appear in the movie, "Eventually the student must be told what is being done to him" (effectively, I'm paraphrasing), "and must decide himself to continue." Paul opts to continue his Mentat training on top of his training in The Way, AND being trained in the Atreides fighting school.
It is in the story that in the old days robots and living machines started to go against humans, so that they were destroyed and made illegal. Instead the genetically modify people to be human computers. "Mentats" like Thufir Hawat can compute insane number in their head, that's when their eyes goes white. That's also why the spacing guild needs spice to travel because the humans that calculate the routes gets a tiny look into the future, hallucination, as to avoid certain things as they do these calculations.
It's sad, that the movies can't really transport this. Another great picture for the absurdity of the scenario were the calculation rooms in Butlers Jihad I think
Literally all he took was having a sand world and a version of the “force.” Other than that, Dune’s themes and plot are completely unrelated to Star Wars. Star Wars is your classic hero’s journey with the story engulfed in the soul’s battle between the spiritual good and evil. Dune is social commentary on being skeptical of charismatic/messianic figures. The themes and lessons are much more shallow than Star Wars and speak to people as a whole, not the individual.
His visions are calculations, there's nothing mystical about them. Paul's bloodline, and the training from his Bene Gesserit mother, give him the unique ability to calculate the future much more accurately than a normal human. But it's still not 100% accurate. He knew he would get a crissknife, he would fight, someone would die, and someone would show him the ways of the desert. But who died, and who shows him those ways, he got wrong.
The white eye guy: Thufir Hawat, a Mentat, or human computer, needed since all the computers were destroyed in the Butlerian Jihad. (there's a book, I think.)
Loved the reaction. This is a fantastic movie, however you definitely should've thrown in a reaction to the trailer for the 2nd movie. I know you don't react to trailers(unless I have missed something, Which is definitely possible) but it would've been cool to see you tack on the Dune 2 trailer reaction at the end of this. Even without that, great movie and excellent reaction
The Baron survived the poison because he uses anti gravity devices to float around due to his obesity. Also as much as I love Star Wars... Dune is better. When you take the novels into account and how they created possibly the coolest sci fi universe of all time and hands down the most influential it's no contest.
For those of you who are sending death threats to me for the title, 😂😂😂 what day is it today?
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There are things Dune did better than Star Wars and there are things Star Wars did better than Dune.
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I LOVE both. Now which one do I like better? I’ll never tell. Ehh maybe I will. Idk.
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I love the comments and the controversy though 😂😂❤
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I hope you guys enjoyed this video! Thank you so much for all the love and support
OH YOU! I was baited!
Still have to change it tho
It's fine! Dune is better even though people won't like to hear or read it. That doesn't mean the Star Wars movie are not entertaining or a disaster. Dune is just better with character building and story telling.
Now ya gotta watch prt 2. I remember reading the books as a kid, they are soooo dense. So yeah, you're missing alot of the story bcz the only way to get it all in would be a series.
@@matthewlarkin5049 never 😂😂
"PAUL IS THE DESERT MOUSE" Bro understood more of this movie than most on first viewing wtf
Because he's a sociopathic liar who has seen all these movies already.
He is routinely drawing conclusions that don't come from the content of the movie. He's either read the book, the Wiki page, or someone is explaining it to him so he can pretend to be understanding the movie.
im calling bs he know too much for a first viewing
@@ecsciguy79I don’t think so, or he would have been more wary of the Bene Gesserit
he shall know your ways as if born to them. Alex is the Lisan Al-Gaib confirmed!
“Paul’s the desert mouse!” HE KNOWS TOO MUCH ALREADY
I laughed out loud when he said that. He was way more perceptive than usual. I guess when he actually pays attention he catches on extremely well
He must be Lisan Al Gaib!!!
@@ryansosnowicz9205 *stares in Stilgar*
As written
@@chrishouseinc *froths at the mouth with every deed he does :D
Alex really understood this movie better than I thought he would
Yeah he was SHOCKINGLY on point today, way outta character
Which rarely happens lmao!
I was so concerned initially, but he did good 😂😂
ruthless💀💀
Alex goes deeper than he let’s off 😅he has a soul but not at first glance lol
Dude really showed up for this one with maximum Alex focus, "strategically fucking", "they see what they've been told to see", "Paul is the mouse". Who is this Alex? 😂
LISAN AL GAIB
@@francomariani1479As it was written 😮
For someone who's never read the books, Alex was strangely on point with the lore
@@owenmaleski2203 wydm lol for half the movie he thought that the Fremen were Harkonnen lol just because he said Paul is the mouse doesnt mean he knew stuff before hand that's an easy comparison to make ... the Dune books aren't as complicated as people make it to be you just have to pay attention
He IS the Kwisatz Hefnerach!
I couldn't believe how much Alex understood of this movie on a first watch haha. He called out half the plot immediately, and understood that Paul doesn't want his visions in the tent to come true. Amazingly perceptive. Alex, if you see this comment READ THE BOOK! Or listen to the audiobook. It's an incredible story, and there is so much more going on in the background that you miss.
Yeah, it's definitely one of those stories where getting the character's inner monologues doesn't disappoint. It also has some anime feel to it like seeing the death duel in the movie felt _so_ quick compared to the book where Paul's analyzing all potential moves while moving at super speeds himself, reacting to things in perceived slow motion, and even foreseeing stuff moments before. I love how much info Paul and Jessica pick up from minor voice inflections or inadvertent movements. It really depicts how crazy Divination would be as a power, seeing glimpses of so many parallel future realities and desperately hoping you avoid the bad ending.
had me shook bc i was excited to see the movie and watched it but didnt understand half as much as he did. like he realized early that some of Paul's visions are false/alt realities. i didnt know that til after jamis, and then hes picking up on all the subtext
And then there’s people saying the movie was boring and that they didn’t understand anything 🙄
I've seen it three times and I'm still proccessing... I'm so slow 😅😅😅
I think it shows how great Denis Villenueve is at his craft. The movie shows you everything very purposefully and if you pay attention there's no chance of becoming lost.
"Strategically fucking" lmfao that is really accurate
He absolutely nailed it (giggity) when he said that because it's pretty much exactly that haha.
Yeah that’s exactly what they do
part 2 vibes
As written
Yep... he's the only reactor to this that ive seen (of a dozen) that commented on it and 100% understood it.
Their "The One" had to be a male, but Jessica's daughter was supposed to marry a specific Harkonnen guy, and that would have produced "The One", but Jessica went somewhat her own way.
Yes, the daughter was to marry Feyd-Rautha, the Baron's nephew.
@@JonInCanada1 spoioioioilers
@@TheJerbol Not really. It's not discussed in the films.
well they are Harkonnen's so...
@@HK7Roiz Dude, why the F*CK would you write this spoiler, potentially ruining something for Alex? What is wrong with you? What is wrong with your brain?
"I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain."
The Litany Against Fear is one of the most recognizeable bits from Dune. That, and, "The Spice must flow."
Which is really funny considering "The Spice must flow" doesn't appear in the books lol
@@SLENDAMANN Nope, but thank you David Lynch.
“He who controls the spice controls the universe…”
I must drink beer.
Beer is the mind killer.
Beer is the little death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my beer.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me, and when it has gone past, I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
When the beer is gone, there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.
I have anxiety and chronic pain that is sometimes very quick onset, so i've been using the Litany Against Fear for YEARS to help moderate my response to sudden onset pain. If I let my autonomic system freak out, my brain will prioritize the pain signals, effectively boosting my perceived pain. But if I'm able to put the brakes on quickly enough, the pain doesn't keep spiking, I don't get crazy muscle spasms, and I return to my baseline pain more quickly. Even when it's still severe, I'm better able to handle it and do what I need to in order to treat it without my anxiety getting the best of me and kind of making me lock down and just be focused on the pain and feeling helpless.
Sorry for the book post; I just... it's really effective for me.
"wait, Paul is the desert mouse!" man, I can't wait for him to watch the second movie lmao
alex prescience makes me suspect he is a spice addict!
I thought the desert mouse was symbolic to the philosophy of 'if humans are so far apart for so long, they would be considered alien to one another' as to play the fact that the only *actual* alien in the series was that mouse.
When Shadout Mapes asked Jessica if she knew the meaning of the crysknife, Jessica wasn’t sure what she meant, but didn’t want to look ignorant, so she temporized. She translated the word “knife” from Chakobsa (the Fremen language) to Galactic Standard, which became “maker of death.” However, she didn’t get past the first word before Mapes shrieked-because “The Maker” is one of the secret names of the Giant Sandworm among the Fremen; a name used only in their secret ceremonies and not ever told to offworlders.
So if this foreign woman knew that the crysknife was from a Maker of the Deep Desert, she must truly be the Lisan al’Gaib, the one Mapes had been waiting for her entire life. Imagine you are an evangelical talking to someone in line, and they look you in the eye and suddenly morph into the Virgin Mary, complete with halo, backlighting, and attendant flying cherubs. You’d probably freak out too.
Also the woman who played Shadout Mapes is Golda Rosheuvel, who’s famously Queen Charlotte in Bridgerton
@@theprobester6034SHUT UP!!! IM REWINDING THIS VIDEO
This is the one scene that's WAY BETTER in the 1984 version. Linda Hunt as Mapes absolutely sells the existential fanaticism like this is the best moment of her life and she's about to cry; in this scene it's just an awkward fake-yell
"Lissan al Ghaib' is arabic and means 'Tong of the unkown' (as in diviner). Moadib means Educator/Prophet
@@Aikidjam most of the foreign stuff in Dune is Arabic or at least Middle Eastern like Turkish. Arabic is to Dune as Chinese is to Firefly.
Dune is sick. It's been my favorite book since I was a teenager. Dune did for Science Fiction, what Lord of the Rings did for Fantasy. It is THAT important. And this adaptation was nearly perfect.
Favorite book and perfect adaptation don't go well for Dune movie. It's an amazing movie, but as far as adaptation goes, it goes way off rails, missing lots of points. Miniseries is still best as far as adaptations goes.
@@scorpion29a it was a great adaptation for the amount of time and effort they put in. I dont think it would nearly be as successful if it was a miniseries. Especially without as passionate of a director as Dennis Villenueve.
Whatever the book readers complain about, it doesnt take away from the enjoyment non-reader audiences experienced.
@@prestonwuvsyou990 I meant the miniseries from year 2000-ish, that was the "by the book" adaptation. And as I said, the movie is great, but to anyone that is a fan of books, there is a lot of story missing/changed, that completly changes the story and characters, for the worse, and even if non-reader audience enjoys it, it doesn't mean they get the same depth of story and lore from it.
Most of the Star Wars books are better than Dune
I don’t get the hype at all. The movie is so slow-paced that I fell asleep 4 times until I could finish it.
Dude out here trying to start a war.
dune out here trying to star a war
or should you say... A STAR WAR
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@@no_regrets_ beat me to it
@@Akaeus hehe
I don't think anyone over 10 years old disagrees with this argument lol
Alex reacting to pt. 2 will be a day to remember
With all the little hints that he said, especially about the mouse haha
It’s only like two weeks away too. Rumors are saying it’ll be around April 12th-15th.
@@thefilmeffect6089that seems early
@@thefilmeffect6089 Wow! Already? That seems so soon. But, anymore, who knows. Release dates never make a whole lot of sense.
@@cside19 it has a really good theatre run, I dont think they will release it digitally anytime soon
"I'm so invested I can hardly make inappropriate jokes"
IT'S NICE ISN'T IT!? rofl
the dune books not just inspired star wars , dune basically started the whole sci-fi fantasy genre , without dune there wouldn't be star wars , warhammer 40k , star gate ,star trek etc.
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The Foundation series by Isaac Asimov actally inspired the entire sci-fi genre and dune took inspo from 'foundation'. I love the dune books but we have to be truthful
@@abdulabdi5887 I mean, yeah... but without Dune, would it have gone anywhere? Impossible to say, but as far as we know, no. Dune is what took what Asimov did and showed the insane potential of it.
Animation existed for quite some time before Walt Disney started drawing little animated shorts. But you can trace pretty much all of modern animation back to what he did with it. He took it and showed what could be done with it.
Fantasy was around as well, but it wasn't until Tolkien wrote Lord of the Rings that people could see what it could be and do.
@@abdulabdi5887that's true but dune was still the franchise that really kicked sci-fi fantasy to what it is now ,and foundation was also inspired by something else like everything is , the earliest depiction's of sci-fi dates back to ancient times with the Mesopotamian's and the Epic of Gilgamesh , fact is we are writing stories to entertain our self's since we started civilizations .
Imagine not knowing about A Princess of Mars
Oscar Isaac and Timothee Chalamet absolutely look like father-son, the hair is perfect with the striking eyes
The Atreides and their ministers/Paul’s teachers were well cast.
Zendaya not so much. Dr. Kynes a travesty.
I couldn’t agree more.
For real reading the book I pictured Oscar as Leto; hyped af when I found out he was cast for the movie and he did not disappoint.
Never heard of Dune, then watched the first movie, got super hyped, bought the books, watched part 2 and speedread the first three books...loved it, even though those are some weird ass books
they get even worse lol (in a good way i guess, sometimes)
@@alicepina1012 yeah, I heard that, I'm probably stop reading after Children of Dune haha
@@julianbrgle9084Nah, at least try to read God Emperor. If you're really committed then read Heretics and Chapterhouse. Then stop, there are no books after that :)
Weird ass? Just wait when you reach book 4...
@@alicepina1012 in a good way for a bit and then in the worst ways imaginable
Fun fact: I memorized the Litany Against Fear in freshman year of college so I could recite it to myself during tests when I was anxious. lol It's actually pretty helpful as a grounding exercise.
Not as a freshman, but i also used to recite the Litany Against Fear during my tests at UNI, and do so in English, even though my native language is Portuguese
The Litany Against Fear is my phones lock screen.
@@aricjones6120 I’ve debated getting part of it tattooed at some point, but I’d want to work with a really good artist which is not likely to be something I can afford anytime soon Lol
@@PhilipePXF I’m glad to know I’m not alone! But I’m even happier that you also got some use out of it.
Also, it would be super interesting to hear it translated into some other languages now that I think of it (properly translated, not google translated haha).
@@onetricksyboy3760 yea a good tattoo artist can get pricey
Lady Jessica was Duke Leto’s Bene Gesserit concubine, a lot of the High Houses have them. Though they did love each other very much. She even went against her sisterhood and gave him a son because he so desperately wanted one. She was told only to produce daughters. He wanted to marry her but she told him it would put House Atreides in a more powerful position if other houses felt that they could make an alliance with Leto through marriage. He named Paul his heir at his birth. I read the books (first one published in the 60s) after enjoying the film and when I read “if you strike me down I shall become more powerful than you can imagine.” I was like - Oh George Lucas fully ripped this off.
Not sure if he "ripped this off", but he definitely was inspired by it, sure.
We can see it as a quote, not a ripoff.
And I'm really glad that many people got this opportunity to learn the origin of it ;)
@@andrewmelnikov292 I’m a university lecturer and if you quote without explicitly referencing it’s called plagiarism 😂
@@andrewmelnikov292Star Wars is unashamedly plagiarized from many many sources; but it's a very effective plagiarism, like a best-of distillation of storytelling. Lucas being unoriginal shouldn't at all take away from the fact he has good taste in sources and team members (for a while, at least) and is ingenuitive af.
Same with Tarantino; his scenes are stolen as fuck, but he succeeds in putting all the good stuff in one place elevated by s-tier dialogue
Don't apologize for the title. Dune is essentially the granddaddy of modern Sci-Fi, especially Star Wars, amongst many others. It's a magnificent story if you ever fancy reading it. Keep in mind, Paul's visions are of "possible" futures. Some things are clearer and more sure, like his mother being pregnant. Other things are more nebulous, divergent paths that only clarify once he's chosen one way or another. The spice is helping awaken his latent power and he's terrified of it and what it might mean.
Alex about to start a turf war with that title
For real. lol
Star Wars' fans (including me): It's treason then
I already unfollowed for that blasphemy 😤
he's speaking the truth though lmao
Not as bad of a take as the article saying it's the new Lord of the Rings Trilogy
Your excitement is highly understood. Never stop smiling, Alex. Your energy is what had me sticking around. With that said, who would’ve thought that Moon Knight would get along with Thanos so well? Or should I say Cable? Then of course we have evil Drax being a real destroyer.
And MJ turned out to be pretty bad ass. And a Russian X-Con turned out to advise a formerly institutionalized pantless scientist who now is a Baron.
I'm just trying to figure why Aquaman decided to go the desert??? Willingly???
High Evolutionary as the Emperor's Herald.
Anyone who says that Dune is too slow, boring, and/or hard to understand is so full of it. If even Alex, who can find enjoyment in some of the worst written action-movie garbage I've seen, is able to be engaged and attentive enough to understand just about everything going on in this movie, then ya'll have no excuse. Just pay attention and actively engage with the film, turn your brain back on and don't go watch Dune with Marvel-slop level expectations.
A million times x This ↑
When i watched part one in cinema with my mother and stepdad my stepdad fell asleep after like 20 min (he denies it to this day) and then complained at the end that he couldnt get the story and that it was a bad film (cuz he sleeped through the important middle that build up the end). It really is just people who dont try to understand the movie that dont and then complain
The Bene Gesserit are terrifying...but prime Paul is even more terrifying.
In the book, Paul describes his visions as standing on a hill, and seeing a road heading off into the distance. You can see where it rises over a hill, but then it dips into a valley and you can't see it until it goes up a hill again. He can see pieces of the future, but not how to get to them. Every choice he makes can lead him to that vision, or alter it. Which is actually a really cool way to do it, making it a little less OP of a thing to have. He still has to make the right choices to attain, or avoid, certain visions.
The interesting part about Paul’s visions is that they may not be completely accurate but they are usually true.
For example Jamis did teach Paul about the desert but not in the way seen in the vision.
I would say it's the other way round. His visions are accurate, but not always true, since he sees different versions of the future
Jamis is Paul's own Alexa console...😅😅
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“This is so sad, Jamis play Despacito.”
@@fuzzyapple Young Paul only sees some possibilities, his visions are incomplete but what happens is directly link to the path he choose to walk. After he takes the water he will see all possibilities and know the path, the golden path of which he will want no parts. So he takes another one, the one that gives him more time with Chani.
The year 10,191 is how they measure time in this universe. For us it's actually more like 20,000 years from now.
"The One" was supposed to be a girl so that she could be married off to a Harkonnen. This would unite the two families and then the child of this union would have become the "Great One." But, the Duke really wanted a boy, so Jessica disobeyed the Sisterhood and gave him a boy. This boy would have all the powers of the One and the potential to create offspring even more powerful. But, being a male, he now can't marry into House Harkonnen.
Jamis, angry that Paul snuck up on him during their first encounter basically created his own future.
Paul's visions come in threes. Like seeing three distinct timelines or all possible futures. 1) Jamis teaches Paul the ways of the desert. 2) Jamis kills Paul. 3) Paul kills Jamis. Jamis basically chose which future by getting his feelings hurt and demanding a fight with Paul. If Jamis had just let go of the fact Paul bested him, then future #1 would have come true. If Paul had neglected his studies, "I'm not in the mood to fight," then future #2 would have come true.
That being said, Jamis absolutely *did* teach Paul the ways of the desert.
@@Malfehzan Which explains how Paul "knows his ways as if born to them."
@@starbrand3726also, Paul Atreides does die (symbolically) and becomes Muad’Dib
@@zeeks23 But technically wasn't he always the Muad Dib? It was foreseen, foretold, and predicted, so how could he not be?
@@starbrand3726 foreseen or manufactured? There is a theme of artificial influence going on - “they see what they’re told to see” - and Bene Gesserit said they’d already infiltrated and laid the foundation down with the freman already to make his life easier or something like that
Fight me, but Denis Villeneuve saying he wanted to make "Star Wars for grownups" is absolutely badass
Star Wars for grownups? That’s what Clone Wars was for
@@packedentertainment2866 just because a show aimed at children is written well, doesn't not make it a children's show
@@HQofrandomATLA fans need to learn this.
@@HQofrandomlol clone wars had more brutality, war crimes, terrorism, torture ext than any of the movies. It may have started off as a kids show, but towards the end it is some of the darkest Starwars to date.
Animated violence and sexuality is rated differently to that of live action, illustrated and written violence and sexuality. They're different mediums. As for an adult version of Star Wars, sure why not. I just wonder if the whole _"this isn't what George Lucas would've wanted"_ argument would continue since George Lucas created Star war for 12 year olds.
"Paul's the mouse" - Alex
Guys don't tell him.
FYI that dude who rolled his eyes and did math in his mind is a mentat. Mentats are like human computers and they're created with the help of the spice as well. And they're needed because computers and any type of electronics are illegal in this universe due to a war against AI that happened a long time ago. It's also the reason that seeker drone needed a human operator, because it's mechanical, no computers. By proxy it's also kind of a reason the spice is so valuable. Navigators who are required for interstellar travel are a product of the spice as well. As are Bene Gesserit. So pretty much everything is a result of using the spice and revolves around it one way or another.
Big film nerd here - part 1 is a necessary evil in terms of exposition for those unfamiliar with the lore (there is game of thrones levels of lore in this series that spans thousands of years) part 2 is absolutely worth it
funny, i played the p0rn parody game version of Dune before watching any of the movies or reading the books. And the game is remarkably faithful to the story, so most of my lore understanding comes from there lmao.
@@iminumst7827YOU PLAYED A WHAT?? 😭😭
@@iminumst7827huh
@@iminumst7827 Lol... Behind the Dune? Because if so, it IS heavily lore accurate (for a porn game)
Which is weird because part 1 was alright while part 2 was atrocious
"Wait. He's not doing the slide..."
The worm's already coming to the vibrations of the harvester. I don't think a boy's footsteps are going to make much of a difference....
It IS better because it takes itself seriously. We have been mentally ready for something that felt serious. Star Wars is just too silly. I loved how there were no stupid looking aliens in DUNE. They weren’t trying to sell toys that didn’t belong. DUNE doesn’t treat you like you’re stupid, in spite of the exposition dumps/voiceovers that are necessary to keep the story moving. And still, it forces you to think about the connecting tissue.
It was so sweet how quickly you went from condemning Dr. Yueh to sympathizing with him once he said the Harkonnens had his wife. You clearly love your wife very much ❤ Great reaction, as always!
The sequel is even better. It's legitimately one of the most beautiful films I've ever seen.
Denis Villeneuve is a genius.
Fun Fact ! Dune came before Star Wars, Dune was first a book which published in 1965 by Frank Herbert, George Lucas took some inspiration from the book and created Star Wars, the first Dune Movie took inspiration from George Lucas and the ground breaking visuals his Star Wars movies had at the time in the 70s, I deeply love both and also appreciate and enjoy that both took inspiration from each other to create both masterpieces.
You could say this about any epic that came before star-wars. LOTR, Dune, Nordic Mythology, Greek Mythology, even the bible could all be stated as "inspiring" Starwars, Lucas was an anthropology major.
@@silkpursuit Very true, but it doesn't nullify from the fact that both actually did take inspiration from each other and it is a very well known thing, you're talking about possibilities, and "What If" . I'm not here to say Star War wouldn't exist without Dune or vise verse, because I love both, just wanted to post a fun fact for Alex read, have a good one brother !
@@silkpursuit Many of those all DID inspire star wars, but so did Dune. Not even an 'if' about it, Frank Herbert even got (maybe a little tongue-in-cheek, maybe seriously) salty about it
@@silkpursuitliterally. Dc & marvel have copied each other a hundred times. Doesn’t make one more superior on which specific thing they did first because that’d be playing a game you can’t win
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Im aware of when dune came out.
I’m not talking about what if’s.
I personally disagree with this rhetoric that Dune heavily influenced Starwars.
Dune did not invent the chosen one trope, it’s not even close to the same considering Luke is not the chosen one.
The Bene Gesserit are just women who manipulate royals, while Jedi are generals of peace and operate in completely different ways (they both just happen to use mindtricks).
Lucas also based them off of monks, buddhists, taoists etc, unlike dune.
The desert planet of Tatooine has little to actually due with the plot as most of the movies are spent elsewhere.
Not on one unliveable planet.
The reasoning for the avoidance of automation for both properties are also completely different.
There maybe tiny infinitesimal pieces that had some hand within inspiration, but in all reality the two properties have barely anything in common outside of both dealing in science-like elements.
Hell they are even in different genres of film.
Cheers.
Bro, as a lifelong Dune fan, you caught so much and instinctively figured out a lot. The Subtitleties or very important in this universe.
Its still crazy to know that Hans Zimmer did not one, not two but THREE soundtracks for Dune: Part One.
The music has been a work of art and I love how different each motif for the characters, planets and ancient houses sound.
For example, House Atreides have the proudful bagpipes. House Harkonnen have what we call the infamous "war horns," which is actually a cello or violin instrument that was distorted or manipulated into sounding like it was brass. The Sardaukar have the ominous throat singing and the Bene Gesseit has a series of women singing, chanting and whispering to give them a bit of that snake-like charm. I've heard the music countless times at this point and never get bored. When Dune: Part 2 does come out, I'm looking forward to seeing your reaction, Alex!!!!
26:29 "that's badass" - because the ship was hit by shield-piercing weapon (like the Leto by small injector few seconds before") to slowly penetrate the shield, and then explode. And the shield is holding the explosion from within, after moment it fails and then we see and hear the explosion. Visual orgies.
36:30 "you try to kill the sandworm?" 44:33 - the reaction is awesome :D
42:53 - "may thy knife chip and shatter". krispel is holding together by the bio electricity of its wielder. So he is basically saying "may you die and in death, the knife shall broke".
The thing that makes me feel bad for Alex is that if he saves movies for his reactions, he can't see them when they're released in theaters, and some movies are so great in theaters. I kind of hate it for him. But I respect and honor the sacrifice. 😅 I hope he's got a theater that may show it sometime, because he deserves to see it on the big screen!
Also, I've had the flu and DOUBLE PNEUMONIA, and I've been saving watching this video for as long as I could, to be, like, alert enough to enjoy it, but also feeling badly enough that I need the distraction. I only made it three days. Le sigh.
It looks like he’s watching movies on a monitor too. I think some of these reactors should invest in a theater room or a “man cave”. Having a projector and a surround sound system can really imitate the theater experience.
Edit: hope you start feeling better soon.
Dune, the novels are masterclass in social commentary blended with masterful fantasy world-building. The movies are a masterclass in visual sci-if storytelling and adaptation. A critique of messianic figures and religious, dogmatic cultism. It’s easy to see how the framework of the story directly influenced Lucas and Star Wars in a great way.
The franchise is definitely GOATED in more ways than one.
PAUL: "What does it mean that I could be the One?"
THE ARCHITECT: "The function of the One is now to return to the Source, allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry, reinserting the prime program. After which you will be required to select from the matrix 23 individuals, 16 female, 7 male, to rebuild Zion."
I laughed way too hard at this comment
Wait 7 males get their picks out of 16 females? Thats 2 females for every male. And one male gets 3. Well damn. Also... Thats alot of cousins.
So, the box in the test... it's empty. It uses nerve induction. It directly stimulates the nerves responsible for feeling pain. And it ramps it up and up and up. To the brain, all pain is is a nerve sending an impulse up saying "ow." So they can literally make your feel like the flesh is searing and burning off your hand. Calling him "human" was an extremely high compliment. As she said, an animal will chew it's own limb off to get out of a trap. And asked what he would do. Will you be an animal, or will you focus and control your nature and be a human. The Bene Gesserit have taught themselves over many centuries, the ability to control, at a cellular level, their bodies. They can move faster, endure longer, etc than anyone. They can read emotions and feelings in people by seeing their pulse change, or sweat beads forming. In fact, some of them become so good at this they are called Truthsayers. You can't lie to them. They can control the gender of any child they have by altering their internal chemistry at the right time. If you inject them with poison then can slow down their body systems and analyze the poison molecularly with their mind and CREATE an antidote for it using their own cells. They are insanely powerful. And they have operated from the shadows for thousands of years, carefully crossing bloodlines by marriage and having the right gender child to create the DNA that would be powerful enough to be the one they seek.
The feeling in the delivery when Josh says “They aren’t human, they’re BRUTAL.”
Ya its a Marvel reunion. You've got Drax, MJ, Moon Night, Dr. Erik Selvig, and Thanos/Cable all in one non-Marvel film. And then DC Aquaman but we don't talk about those movies.
You mean Apocalypse. We don’t talk about that mid show that was afraid to show action even once so it gave us glimpses of fading to black with bad cgi
And the Baron's advisor was an X-Con and buddy of Ant-man
And you have the Polka-Dot Man as Piter de Vries (the Baron's advisor) and Cameron Poe as Duke Leto. Oh, to through another big franchise in the mix: Ronon Dax from Stargate: Atlantis (Jason). And before I forget, Anton Chigurh (Javier Bardem) as Stilgar.
Also the man who plays Jamis is in some episodes of the Defenders
😂yay!
Nobody hates more on star wars than star wars fans
True for most fan-bases, only people who care about a franchise will develop strong opinions about it. This is especially true for adaptations and sequels where the biggest critics are hardcore fans 9 times out of 10.
I wish this wasn't true, but it is. I blame the fanbase more than Disney these days.
@@IamMeHere2See and yet Disney seems to wanting to be hated by star wars fans cos whom they hired 😞
The social media is a savage and dumb place. It brings out the Dunning-Kruger in us all.
@@EVIL85djtARCHER What age group do you think Star Wars was made for?
Yes! I can’t wait for you to react to dune 2 when it comes out of the theaters
3:25 - The idea behind the Voice is that every human is predisposed by biology (species), sociology (culture), and psychology (individual experience) to be receptive to suggestion if coded appropriately. The Voice is the application of training a human past the breaking point to both be a perfect observer and notice all the little cues that tell you what range will work (this is called "registering") and then using insane levels of neuro-muscular training (Prana-Bindu) to have perfect control over every part of the body to generate the right tones, overtones, and undertones to hit that spot.
To make a long story short, the only form of "computer" used in Dune is a human brain... and the Bene Gesserit are hackers.
Some fun facts about Dune:
. Yeah, there is a 1984 movie but we don't talk about it. The source material is a 1965 novel largely considered on of the most important an influential pieces in science fiction.
. Frank Herbert, the author of the book, was actually kind of pissed about the similarities between Dune and Star Wars. In the 5th book of the series he describes a material called "Three P-O" that is a cheep substitute for steel the masses use to build houses.
. Dune (2021) and Dune: Part Two (2024) are absolute dream projects for the director Denis Villeneuve. He has storyboards he and his friend drew when they were 15yo for a imaginary Dune movie and some of them actually ended up inspiring some of the shots in the movies.
The David Lynch version got a lot of people to read the books, so no need to diss it too much. Also, the theme from that movie is just so iconic.
The 80’s version is awesome. It’s not perfect, but it does parts of the story much better than this one. I wish I could combine them.
Dune 2 will knock you off your feet! It was mindblowing! So epic…
Wait until you see the 2nd movie. 😅 There will be no contest at that point. Even as a Star Wars lover, I can’t be out here lying and saying Star Wars is better because it just isn’t. Star Wars is generally very audience friendly, but with that depth is lost and Dune has a lot of it all the time. I can go on and on about the intricacy of the world of Dune.
Star Wars doesn't make me fall asleep so it's better purely because of that 😅
Opinions are opinions so stop desperately trying to make your opinion a fact
Part 2 was bad as someone who has not read the books. It was insanely slow and rushed at the same time, had nonsensical plot holes all over it, main characters were bland with zero chemistry, villains were cartoonish and uninteresting, and none of the moments which were supposed to be dramatic were dramatic at all. And don't even get me started on how shit the set design was. Part 1 kept me interested, part 2 kept me checking the clock in confusion waiting for something, anything of interest to happen.
OG trilogy is better. Star Wars deals with the most real battle there is: good vs evil. Those movies are massive because they hit the core of our souls.
Dune doesn’t have any deep themes or good lessons to teach. It’s just pessimism and negativity. The only theme of these movies is don’t fall for charismatic leaders and don’t trust religion. Our “hero” just continues to corrupt himself and kills tons of people.
@@invictus7736 yes Part 2 was all over the place! The cuts were weird, the pacing was bizarre. I feel like I would have enjoyed it in tv format. Like when Paul is supposed to go to the Dune and it's a dangerous journey... Then it just cuts to them months later in a different setting. The whole film was like that, drove me nuts!
I can not believe they had Thanos playing the same character that Professor X played and then they did not even bother to cast anyone in the role that the pug played. (I am referencing to the Dune movie from back in 1984)
Meanwhile Apocalypse is standing right next to Thanos
@@packedentertainment2866 Because it's the same group of 10 actors that get cast for everything instead of finding new faces that we all know are out there waiting for a chance. How about a little love for Drax too? He was in there. Doctor Selvig from Thor and Avengers? Yup! Yelena? Got her. MJ from the Spider-man movies? Check!
@@robertreichle1 Yes all of those get mentioned ad nauseum as well
@@robertreichle1 well Florence Pugh became big because of Ari Aster’s second instant classic Midsommar which lander her Black Widow. Meaning before Black Widow
No pug, no TOTO guitar riff, literally unwatchable.
The writing of this series is insane. Even though at the end of part one, Paul kills jamis, the vision of Jamis teaching him the way of the desert techinically did happen, even though it wasn't exactly as the vision foretold, Jamis tought paul that to survive and thrive in the desert you must fight. tickled my gooch a little.
P.S huge fan alex love your vids
Congratulations... you figured out the basic plot faster than pretty much every reactor I've watched. At 8:46 you nailed it. It's a setup. The emperor working together with Baron Harkkonen created the trap. Destroy equipment, etc as they leave, have an invasion force ready to go, get extra support from the Emperor's own personal army of the most feared soldiers in the universe, and have a traitor. Wipe out the Atreides. Harkkonens win their blood feud with Atreides, The Emperor gets rid of a noble who is rising in popularity among all the houses, and due to his advisors Gurney, Thuffir, and Duncan, has the only army that could stand up to the Emperor's. THe movie distills it way down, in the book the ins and outs of all of this are amazing to read through. But well done for putting it together so quickly. The story is amazing, and it's not going to go quite where you expect it to.
I have been waiting for you to see this! Just wait for part 2 👌
Bull fighting (in one way or another) is a Atreides* tradition - all the way back to Mycenean times (where it also included jumping over the bull) - it is the family of Agamemnon and Menelaus from the Trojan War.
* Atreides means son of Atreus - who is the father - maybe grandfather (in which case thie son died before he could inherit) - of Agamemnon and Menelaus. Comparatively it's similar to O'Brien and McDougall. Frank Herbert wrote Dune in 1963 (serilalized in Analog magazine and collected inbook form in 1965) and 5 sequels. He left extensive notes of background information which his son, Brian Hebert, and Kevin J. Anderson have used to write prequels and sequesls of the universe he created. George Lucas was ispired by (or outright stole from) Dune. The skeleton of a sand burrowing creature similar to the sandworms is one of the first things we see on Tatooine in A New Hope; smuggling spice (he didn't even bother to use another name) and the Tusken tribes reminiscent of the freman - are "a tribute" to Dune
You need to watch the 1984 version with Patrick Stewart as Duncan. That movie is batshit crazy.
He's Gurney Halleck. Josh Brolin's character. It would be wild to see him react to the old Dune😂
Yeah, I'd love to see him react to the old movie, but only after he watches Part II.
@@mimifernandes89if he does he'd be better off watching the 3 hour cut Spicediver put on TH-cam it's so much better than the version Lynch was forced to make
@@scorp77snake Nah...he has to suffer just like the rest of us. Still love u Alex 😁
Eww is right about the black bathwater. It looks funky but but the Baron was detoxing from the small amount of toxic gas he did get.
The electronic shields vibrate at a frequency to keep out almost everything, but it can't keep out literally everything or you'd die of oxygen deprivation while wearing one. Gases are slowly exchanged through the shield to allow this, & the doctor knew this, which is why he chose poison gas for the Duke to deliver. He knew the Baron wouldn't touch anything on the Duke so it couldn't even be a substance on the clothes or belongings.
But because the shield slowed the gas, the Baron had time to use his anti-gravity belt to quickly get to the far corner of the ceiling & wait there for the poison to get sucked into the air vent filterss after killing everyone else in the room.
As much of a Star Wars fan as I am, I have to unapologetically hand the title of the better science fiction universe to Dune. Not only did it lay the foundation for much of what Star Wars started from in A New Hope, it also inspired countless other universes. The world building the first novel was incredible.
While Star Wars in my opinion has a one up in terms of how expansive the universe is, I chalk that up to it being expanded upon by numerous authors over the years while Dune (if you only count Frank Herbert’s work) has only been written by one author over a very short period of time, encompassing six books.
Now if we are talking about movies, both Dune Part I and II are far superior works of cinema than any of the Star Wars movies. I think that is undeniable from a technical standpoint. Entertainment wise however, Star Wars still has my heart with films such as The Empire Strikes Back and Revenge Of The Sith. I would certainly rank those above Dune Part I. Dune Part II is teetering on the edge of becoming my favorite science fiction movie of all time because I don’t think I’ve ever felt the way that film made me feel. Literal goosebumps and pure awe when Paul Atreides rallied the Fremen people to his Holy Crusade. Pure cinematic masterpiece.
Star Wars is a masterclass in simple accessible storytelling that nails all the beats we love from a millenia of stories.
But Dune is actually well-written.
10191 is actually about 25,000 years in our future. (Certifiable Dune geek here)
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I can't remember exactly how much, but it's actually not just year 10191, but if I'm not mistaken actually around 12.000 years more than that as it actually takes place 20.000 years into the future.
I don't think we ever get a clear answer as to how far in the future it is in the main novels (not counting Brian Herbert fanfiction, obviously.) All we know is that the Spacing Guild has been around for 10191 years at the start of the first novel.
i’ve seen people say about 18,000 years. their calendar started when humanity got rid of computers
@@nathancollins1715-I’m glad you acknowledged what utter trash Brian Herbert’s scribblings are. I mean I know we all need cash, but he really whored out his father’s vision for a few shekels.
According to the Dune wiki, the Spacing Guild was founded in 11,075 AD, so 10,191 "After Guild" would be the year 21,266 on our calendar. Subtract out our 2024 years and it's a bit over 19,000 years in the future.
Okay, Alex...a couple of things...
1) You're right, this is a film that demands a lot of attention.
2) Baron Harkonnen has a "suspensor belt", and anti-graity device that allows him to move. In the novel, it only helps him to walk, but in every film, he uses it to fly. For this version, the belt is more like a graft to his spinal column, that you could kind of see when you first see him in the steam. He is meant to be revolting.
3) The mouse is a kangaroo mouse, a desert creature. The Fremen call the mouse "muad'dib" (teacher). This is important....just saying...
4) While George Lucas has never said that any part of Dune inspired Star Wars, Frank Herbert, the novelist of Dune, pointed out many similarities (I think it was somewhere between 12 and 15 similarities). And although he never did, Herbert would sometimes joke that he could sue Lucas for the similarities.
5) In every film version of Dune, Duncan Idaho was kind of glossed over until this one. He was a badass in the novel. Duncan is a Swordmater of Ginaz, the most badass warriors in the Imperium, and only a Swordmaster of Ginaz could take on that many Saudaukar for as long as he did, taking as many out, before dying himself.
6) The full quote from the novel by Frank Herbert: "“I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”
7) 38:07 - That sludge is spice that the Baron is bathing in. Spice has healing properties, and the Baron has stockpiled massive amounts. He is using the spice to heal from the poison that he was aflicted by when Leto bit on the tooth. The thing about spice that is not covered in the film, but is in the books...the spice smells very strongly like cinnamon.
8) This was just the first half of the first novel, Dune. There is so much yet to come....
Finally someone who has read the books^^ And yeah, to your point 4: the "inspiration" Lucas took from the first book is downright plagiarism^^ SOOOO many things are basicly copied.
I'm new here and I'm impressed that even with your "TH-camr" personality, you caught a lot of things compared to other reactors.
They don't really cover it, but paul atradies also recieved mentat training (mentats are literally human computers), the mentat are so advanced in computational thought that they can predict "see" the future, paul is baiscally a grand master level mentat.
Alex, you're not a troll ...
Dune IS better than Star Wars
This first movie took a ton of time when it came to world building. There were so many characters to introduce. They introduced an entirely new planet, sandworms, the Fremen, and politics/rivalries. They crammed so much into this and they still had to omit so much because the books are PACKED full of stuff. The 2nd movie had a lot more action, but even then they still had to keep some stuff out of it because there was just too much for a movie. I think they did about as good a job as possible without bogging it down and making it boring. The first movie is great, but the 2nd movie is amazing. Now fingers crossed that we get Dune: Messiah and we get all that really fun/weird stuff that's to come.
I don’t think they explain it in the movie, but Leto’s father was killed by one of those bulls. I’m pretty sure the bull-head that they have hanging in their house in Caladan is THE bull that killed him.
Yes, with the Old Duke's blood still on the horns...
Baron Harkonnen didn't die from the poison because of the shield, which warded off some of the initial blast, and because he wears an antigravity harness thingy to support his weight (which is why he's always floating just above the floor); he basically hit the panic button on it when Leto breathed out that poison gas. This jetted him up and away from Leto fast enough that more of the poison didn't seep past the shield, he didn't breathe in a fatal dose, and it kept him hovering way up at the ceiling out of the gas cloud until he could be rescued. He *was* severely injured by the poison, though, and required extensive treatment to recover.
Fantastic reaction! As many have already commented, you picked up on almost every important point in the movie, including the nature of Paul's visions (the fact that they represent different possible futures, and the choices he makes influences which ones come true).
Don't know if you're planning to wait to see Dune Part Two until you can record a reaction to it, but I strongly recommend you make an exception and SEE IT FIRST IN A THEATER ON THE BIGGEST SCREEN YOU CAN FIND (ideally IMAX). Then you can record a commentary on your second viewing after the movie is available on streaming platforms. It's just too amazing of a cinematic experience to miss seeing it in a theater.
I read Dune when I was a teenager, my first foray into sci-fi. As hard as I tried, I just couldn't get my head around it. Then I watched the 1984 movie and I finally understood the book- I re-read it straight away and loved it.
This new Dune took my breath away. It is stunning. I'm watching part 2 tomorrow, and after you refreshed my memory, I cannot wait.
Part 2 is wicked, have fun!
You might be the first person who has ever understood Dune MORE after watching the Lynch film. Lol
@@nathancollins1715 I've been told that! Not sure if it was hearing the strange words said aloud that made the difference or if I just gelled with Lynch. I was the only person I knew who got Twin Peaks, too.
Let's go with the first one eh?
@@JustMe-ks8qc Don't get me wrong, I love Lynch's work and I actually really like the 1984 Dune. I just think it's funny that the movie known for being extremely obtuse and inexplicable with some of its concepts was more intelligible to you than the source material, lol. You must speak Lynch's secret language!
I've been a fan of Star Wars for as long as I can remember, but I honestly do find myself enjoying Dune, far more. The books are amazing, and Denis's movies are absolutely top tier.
I will always love Star Wars, always... but Dune is just something else for me. The lore is so enthralling and extensive, and I absolutely love it all.
As a kid I saw Dune while spending the weekend at a friend's house. I loved it. Then I noticed her mom had the books... which (nerd that I am) I immediately started reading. This new version does a great job bringing the story to screen. And your reactions/commentary always crack me up.
Someone probably already mentioned this, but Dune, as a a novel, predates Star Wars by 20 years. It is no secret that George Lucas drew heavily from Dune to build Star Wars universe. Many other sci-fi movies and novels were inspired by Dune, but none quite measure up to it. Even this magnificent visualization by Denis Villeneuve is a simplification of the source material. It does though try it's best to convey the most important message of Dune: "Beware of the charismatic leaders."
Fun fact: doug marcaida (the "it will keal" guy) was actually one of the fight coordinators for this. Anything that involved the swords or crys knives, was coordinated by him. The form is called kali, originating from the Phillipines. The salute that jason mamoa did before fighting the sardaukar was directed towards him. That too was a traditional philpino salute.
Paul's visions are more warnings of possible outcomes rather then seeing what the future is. So depending on Paul's choices determines what events will come to pass.
He sees possible futures, because the future is just that, one of many conceivable outcomes.
If you have the foresight to see the future, inevitably the future will change.
Dude the visions are possible futures and very metaphorical, when Paul kills Jamis it also kills the old paul he needed to overcome that to move onto his new destiny. and in that way Jamis "taught" paul the ways of desert. You got it a little by the end but yea
Yep, Mentats use extensive training and drugs to be literally human calculators, because "thinking machines" were forbidden by imperial decree ever since the Uprising of the A.I. in distant history in the Dune universe.
It's explained better in the first _Dune_ movie adaptation by David Lynch from 1984 (which also had a 4 hour extended director's cut), the movie starring Kyle MacLachlan as Paul Atreides, Jürgen Prochnow as Duke Leto Atreides, Patrick Stewart as Gurney Halleck, and Sting played Feyd Rautha-Harkonnen in a red speedo and crazy hair
Love that you made the "Alaskan Bull Worm" reference, because that's actually a DUNE reference in SpongeBob. Sandy even says "Wormsign" at one point in the episode.
So not sure if you know this or not, but Paul’s Fremen name, Muad’dib, is the name of the small desert mouse that you see at 33:40
he hadnt seen dune 2 yet
I know the title is click bait but I still wanna say there’s ppl that enjoy a simple sweet fantasy that’s positive and gives them hope while others enjoy a dark and more realistic story involving politics and human struggles (like GoT and Dunes to me). IMO these 2 are completely different genre.
Edit: ok well ppl argue that SW is not a “sweet” story per se, I agree, I’m sorry that English isn’t your first language so I often struggle to find the right word to describe what I feel. What if I say SW (the OT) is more about “redemption” (which takes a more positive side) vs Dune more about “revenge” (darker vibe)? I’ve read neither novel this is just what I grasp from watching the movies. While SW being good old kind ppl saves the day, Dune is more like “you killed my family, prepare to die” while also becoming messiah and it just makes the audience feel SO good. Honestly besides from both set in space I see no comparison, the focus of story is different.
Ps from a gamer perspective this is like comparing legend of Zelda breath of the wild to every other open world game even when they have very different core gameplay/mechanics/focus 😂 lol internet is literally spreading toxic everywhere.
star wars should not be considered just a 'simple sweet fantasy', that's part of the reason the franchise is SO bad now. It wasn't treated that way 10 years ago
Star Wars is overall positive, BUT as another commenter said, it is not a "sweet" story. Uncle Owen and Aunt Berru get torched, a dude gets his hand chopped off in a bar fight, a planet gets blown up and genocided. And then we have Empire Strikes Back, a masterpiece .Yes, compared to Dune it is more simple and positive, much less political, but it had its darkness too. Thankfully Andor now exists which is fixing Star Wars to make it much more fleshed out.
I do think of Dune as the superior sci-fi story that's more adult-oriented, but I'm still a pretty hardcore Star Wars OG trilogy fan regardless. Star Wars really is a fantasy story, a classic hero's journey, good versus evil. Dune is a sci-fi epic where there's no such thing as pure black or pure white, it's morally ambiguous in all the different aspects of human ecology (religion, economy, politics, etc.), and comes off as more realistic and relatable to real life. I'll watch whatever fits my mood better, but I truly like both. The thing however, as others have pointed out, you can only take the evil versus good story trope so far, over so many sequels (and TV series)... Lucas tried to make the prequels darker, coincidentally, having a character falling to the dark side not unlike Paul in Dune, but also by injecting [uninteresting] political schemes, but Lucas being a terrible script writter and director, and trying to appeal to every demographic imaginable, it failed horribly. And the Disney sequels... well... I don't know what those tried to be... I just ignore them.
@@xen0bia If Star Wars just stayed the OT then keeping it good versus evil and having the Empire just be vague bad guys was fine. Once they kept going on them more questions arise and more depth is needed. Andor was the prequels we should have got and the world building needed for Star Wars at this point. It is fleshing out how the Empire operates and what life is like under the Empire for every day people as well as the planning and maintaining of the terror state in the halls of the security and intelligence organs of the empire. The problem with the prequels we got was that I think George Lucas wanted to depict the rose of gas ism but like most liberals, he lacks any understanding of what fascism is and what causes it. Ultimately, it is reduced to an individual personality rather than understanding the larger historical, economic and social forces at play. "It was all Palpatine" is just as flimsy as "It was all Hitler" or how you hear today "It is all Trump" or "all Putin." If it was all Hitler, then how come we also had Mussolini? If it was all Putin and Trump, how do we get Orban and Meloni? On the other hand, Tony Gilroy has a much deeper understanding and Andor is actually showing fascism with a much greater depth of understanding of the phenomenon. And in Andor, the Empire is still evil. The rebellion is still good and justified. But Andor trusts its audience with a higher degree of complexity and ethical gray areas. Andor and Rogue One don't continue to depict war as a fun adventure ride, but instead shows the moral cost of waging struggle. They show the price of what such a struggle demands and what compromises become necessary. It doesn't pretend that war and rebellion are innocent, even when they are justified.
@@AdanALW Yeah I keep hearing going things about Andor and how even the rebels are morally ambiguous, but it's a little too late. I also don't have Disney+ and don't care to get it. And now, with Dune part 1 & 2 being around for me to enjoy, I care even less. Been re-reading the entire sage too. /shrug
Please start the Mission Impossible journey. Each movie gets better and better. You will not be disappointed.
Dune is a series of six books. Star Wars borrowed heavily from the first couple of books, but changed it enough to be its own story.
Sometimes when I show people this movie they respond “that movie was slow and boring”.
In that instant, I know that person is slow and boring.
The fact that Alex understood the movie, without knowing anything about the books (better then i thought he would, i mean "he is the desert mouse!" ... how the fk did he got that?) is proof that this movie did a good job in adapting the books.
They have got the voice right (the blackout they showed when the voice is used on Paul by the reverend mother ... gold, pure gold),
They got the shields and knife fights right,
THEY DID THE SAND WALK ... i was sooooo pissed that the 1984 adaptation didn't showed that, and there is another thing in the books that i wished they could show, in the book when they walk through the desert with a large group of fremens, Paul closes his eyes and he can only hear and feel his steps and his mother steps ... the rest of the group, the fremens, just blended with the sounds of the desert.
They did killed someone that should have not died, his fremen trainer and friend, but it's implied that he has already trained Paul and befriended him IN HIS VISIONS ... empowering 2 things with this death ..... 1 fremen see him more as a messiah because he knows everything about their ways without being trained ... and 2 it shows that Paul's visions are NOT the future, but POSIBLE futures (helps in understanding the "Dune Messiah" book and "Children of Dune" book ... helps in understanding the golden path) ..... sooo ... all in all its a win.
And there's part 2 on the way . And hopefully there's a part 3 .
Seems like Dune Messiah (the second book) is pretty much greenlit but it would be ages before we see anything, it'd be a very different creature compared to the two Dune films Denis has made so far
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At least he didn't say its better than Lord of the Rings. Then we'd have a problem.
It is tho.
It is better imo but I’m just more into sci-fi then fantasy. It’s just preference.
@@devin6079 Do you ever use the word "than"?
@@Shango Oh stfu. It’s a TH-cam comment, who cares
Some facts about Dune:
- It's set 10191 years after the Butlerian Jihad, when humans overthrew AI, which took place 10000 years from now.
- Thufir Hawat, one of Leto's advisors, is a Mentat, or a human supercomputer. "Thinking machines" are outlawed, so Mentats do all the calculations n stuff.
- The Spacing Guild navigators are so dependant on spice that they will literally die without it.
- Bene Gesserit have the ability to determine the sex of their unborn children, hence why the Reverend Mother admonishes Jessica for not having a daughter; Jessica chose to have a son for Leto.
- Water is poisonous to sandworms.
- I'm not sure if this is the case for these films, but in the book, Kynes (who is a man in the book) is Chani's father.
4:37 - Thufir Hawat (eyes-roll math god) is a Mentat. Since AI is outlawed (can't make machines to replicate a human mind), humans had to be trained well enough to do the big calculations themselves. Mentats are what happens when you train a human past the breaking point to take in data and process it. Mentats, Spacing Guild Navigators, and the Bene Gesserit are all examples of the peak of human performance in a specific discipline.
The movie honors the book without specifically mentioning a lot of stuff, it's meant to be able to stand on its own. From the book we learn that Paul is being trained both in the Bene Gesserit "Way" and as a Mentat. He's told about it in the book in a scene that doesn't appear in the movie, "Eventually the student must be told what is being done to him" (effectively, I'm paraphrasing), "and must decide himself to continue." Paul opts to continue his Mentat training on top of his training in The Way, AND being trained in the Atreides fighting school.
It is in the story that in the old days robots and living machines started to go against humans, so that they were destroyed and made illegal. Instead the genetically modify people to be human computers. "Mentats" like Thufir Hawat can compute insane number in their head, that's when their eyes goes white. That's also why the spacing guild needs spice to travel because the humans that calculate the routes gets a tiny look into the future, hallucination, as to avoid certain things as they do these calculations.
It's sad, that the movies can't really transport this.
Another great picture for the absurdity of the scenario were the calculation rooms in Butlers Jihad I think
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Poor Frank still waiting for George Lucas to take him out for dinner for taking so much inspiration from Dune
So is Akira Kurosawa
@@TajimaMunenori but Kurosawa didn't ask only to be taken out for dinner as compensation
@@ElMarcoh True, but Star Wars owes a lot more to Kurosawa and "chanbara" movies.
Literally all he took was having a sand world and a version of the “force.” Other than that, Dune’s themes and plot are completely unrelated to Star Wars. Star Wars is your classic hero’s journey with the story engulfed in the soul’s battle between the spiritual good and evil. Dune is social commentary on being skeptical of charismatic/messianic figures. The themes and lessons are much more shallow than Star Wars and speak to people as a whole, not the individual.
Dude you have the best editing I've seen in a reaction video.... It's like you're in the movie. And you're hilarious. Well done pal
Wow, thanks!
His visions are calculations, there's nothing mystical about them. Paul's bloodline, and the training from his Bene Gesserit mother, give him the unique ability to calculate the future much more accurately than a normal human. But it's still not 100% accurate.
He knew he would get a crissknife, he would fight, someone would die, and someone would show him the ways of the desert. But who died, and who shows him those ways, he got wrong.
Me after reading the title: ''Listen here, you little sh-''
Please, this is only meant as a joke, don't take it seriously.
But Dune is far superior to SW in every way lol
No, no, dude has a point
Read the pinned comment. It was an April fools joke
@@RevRyukin7not. Good April fools joke though
@packedentertainment2866 Naw, its pure truth. Hard to handle.
22:45 dude screamed like he saw a witch 😂😂
The white eye guy: Thufir Hawat, a Mentat, or human computer, needed since all the computers were destroyed in the Butlerian Jihad. (there's a book, I think.)
Loved the reaction. This is a fantastic movie, however you definitely should've thrown in a reaction to the trailer for the 2nd movie. I know you don't react to trailers(unless I have missed something, Which is definitely possible) but it would've been cool to see you tack on the Dune 2 trailer reaction at the end of this. Even without that, great movie and excellent reaction
oh shit. this is an excellent idea! I totally wish I did that!
The Baron survived the poison because he uses anti gravity devices to float around due to his obesity. Also as much as I love Star Wars... Dune is better. When you take the novels into account and how they created possibly the coolest sci fi universe of all time and hands down the most influential it's no contest.