Delonghi Dedica: How Hot does it Get?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 พ.ค. 2024
- In this video, we do an experiment to see how hot the DeLonghi Dedica really gets. We compare low, medium and high temperature settings, and try out a steam hack! We will view the graphs of the temperature over time, and compare the results.
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0:00 Intro
0:41 Low Temperature
2:21 Med Temperature
3:22 HighTemperature
4:15 Temperature Hack
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Here is an easier way to temp surf on the Dedica: th-cam.com/users/shorts8GO1b94CgN4
Hi Tom! I use this hack for a while, whith an extra trick. After it heated up for steaming, turn off the machine, and let out some steam before turning on. This is doing the same (bring the temp. a bit lower) and it's bypassing the pre-infusion (nothing will came out under the pre-infusion state, just building up the pressure). This type of pre-infusion is most good for pre grounded coffee + pressurized basket.
@@gaborudvardi9402 Hey Gabor, how do you let the steam out while being off? Do you just open the steam valve?
This man sure knows his stuff and is a great teacher-- I bet he is some kind of ENGINEER, that he is so precise with all his teachings. We are pretty lucky to get this information for free, really 😄
Haha, thank you for those very kind words, Terri! And thank you for watching. 🙋♂️🤗
I thought it myself about Tom's job, I guess some kind of engineer or mechanic 😜
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Hey Tom, thanks for this useful video! Could you let me know what's the specific model of the scales you are using here? The size looks very appropriate for the Dedica and they don't seem to vibrate off the plate.
@@PodBot Hi yes, that is the Timemore Black Mirror. 👍
Another awesome video. Always one more way to get the maximum of our Dedica. Thanks!
Well done! Thanks for your efforts on Dedica! I watched all your videos they're helpful to those who have it, and then I think I could done it better now! I'll give this heck a shot!
Hello Tom! Great video, great hack. I like Delonghi Dedika. Thanks for your time and your job!
Great video Tom .
Thank you 👍
I've been looking for a long time for temperature hack on Delonghi. Thanks a lot!
I'm going to try the hack tomorrow morning!!
This is my first machine and your channel really helped with finding the right settings and tools for the best shots. Thank you!
Awesome, happy to hear it!
Was time to see some hack on Dedica
👍
really helpful - thanks!
Very nice! I'd absolutley love to see a video like this but for the breville thermojet products. (bambino/barista pro)
Would be interesting to see which temperature surfing routine results in thr most stable temperature and the best actual average temperature, as there's alot of conflicting information. Preheating with the pressurised portafilter, running a cooling flush, running the stream wand first, cold vs hot portafilter (breville actually recommends cold over hot after kaffeemacher's tests) etc.
Very very good video, still have to watch it in full length but just seeing how you pull your shots gives me confidence. That I discovered a great channel!
Greetings from Germany.
Servus, und vielen dank fürs zuschaun! Schöne Grüße aus dem scheenen Oberbayern!
i have the machine a week or so... and the first 3 days i know this... but with this video i can "know" for truth :) thanks (all your videos are great, and be "a must see" to everyone who has a dedica machine. greetings
Thanks for your kind words, Diego. Hope you have fun with this machine! Cheers ☕️
Thank you for your very informative channel. If it wasn't for your channel I would have sent this machine back because I wasn't finding good info on the Dedica. I can't thank you enough.
Awesome Joann, happy to hear that! Thanks for watching and happy coffee drinking! Tom
Glad you got around too this! It’s nice to know the actual numbers so you can get a better gauge on what method to use for each roast. I noticed that in darker roasts I preferred to use no extra heat and even sometimes a cold portafilter to remove almost all bitterness
Hey Brad, wow very cool, thanks for that feedback. I will have to keep this in mind with different roasts. I almost always use a darker roast, but not super dark. What bean do you prefer with the Dedica?
@@TomsCoffeeCorner I’m more of a medium roast guy in general; but I like to mix it up with a darker roast once a month
thank you
Great Video 👍, Tom.
I used to pour in hot water in the machine EC685 for keeping the temperature around 90 °C, I can use your hack method now.
You can also try just turning on steam mode for 3-4 blinks and comparing that method to the method in the video. I am curious to hear your results!
My favourite channel for Dedica optimization and I'm really happy to have found it. Many many thanks for this valuable hint, Tom. Appreciate all your effort for this machine;-) Will try the hacks by turning the machine off/on and the other variant by starting the steam functionality just for 3 secs..
Thanks for those kind words, Fatih. But honestly these are generally my viewer’s ideas, so thanks to you guys! 🙋♂️
Steam hack seems to be quite dangerous because of temperature rise up to 98 degrees that might burn your coffee.
If did recently similar measurements, and got a bit Higher temperatures.
I guees that different termometers will give you different results.
But, anaway, Tom, you are one of the greatest ec685 ambassadors in this world!)
It works and and that is also necessary. The coffee didn’t come out hot enough with the normal settings and I wanted to send the device back - until I tested your hack ;-)☕🎆
Вы подумали как это скажется на здоровье кофеварки??? Если производитель обязывает перед шотом сбрасывать температуру и давление после режима пара.
Another great video, Tom! I believe this technique is called temperature surfing for those looking for more information about it. What’s that beautiful machine to the left of the Dedica by the way?
Hey Nabeel, that is a La Spaziale Mini Vivaldi. It's a dual boiler - probably the most economically priced besides the BDB.
Hey Tom, great Video. One question:
The last shot with steam hack: at what temperature mode was your dedica ? Was it at high?
Hey there, yes this was with the high temperature setting.
Great video Tom as always! I am wondering if you compare the taste of the shots? Would you recommend a high temp or the temp hack for medium roast coffee?
Hey Saeed, I have been trying some temp surfed shots, and enjoying them more, even if just for the hotter espresso. The extraction seems a little better too, but it's hard to quantify that. But, try it for yourself, and see what you think! Cheers! Tom
I already use this hack with my Delonghi ecp withowt turn off (it alow) result IS perfect nice crema color less acidity
Yes I've done this many times myself. I'm just afraid that it's too hot for espresso. You can tell it's hot by the steam it produces. It looks like that it's as hot as it should be.
I am always doing the kind of temperatur surfing suggested by the guys from Kaffeemacher. Start and stop pre infusion twice, wait for a minute and then pull the shot
Hi Tom, have recently purchased a Dedica with bottomless portafilter and Sage Smart Grinder Pro combo after watching all of your videos. Found something that might be of interest for a future video in terms of temperature surfing. If you press the steam wand button then wait till solidly lit, as if you were going to steam, then switch the machine off at the wall and back on, it will no longer do a flashing cool down if you ask it to pull a shot. Instead it will pull a full temp shot. Maybe you could do a temperature test to see if it is too hot or good at this temp?
Anyway, thanks for the time and effort you put into your videos.
Hey Steve, thanks for sharing! I have tried that, and I feel it's too hot yet. You can visually tell, because it forms a huge cone out of the bottomless PF, indicating too high a flow. But that was just my experience. You gotta do what works best for you. Cheers!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Thanks for replying. I saw the same thing but wasn't sure of the cause. I'll go back to the 3 flash method and work from there.
Awesome this is what I was looking for. 1 question, how much have you waited after changing the temp on each time?
Hey Moaiyd, I would say several minutes between each extraction to prepare the next shot, and change the setting and so on. Cheers!
Hi Tom. When you apply the hack at the end of the video what is the temperature setting of the machine itself? Medium? High? Thanks
High!
Good morning Tom.
Interesting video that disproves the generalised statements of "die Kaffeemacher" about temperature surfing. I have also noticed that the settings of the two lower temperature levels are usually very acidic.
About the methodology:
1. Did you make at least one empty brew before starting coffeebrewing? The start temperatures are only half as high as those of "die Kaffeemacher"!
2. An additional idea would be to flush the first 2-3 seconds before brewing in order to transport the cooler water out of the pipes. Then the brewing could be more even.
Can you perhaps measure this again with empty brewing and flushing?
A small constructive criticism:
The axis scaling is not so well chosen.
But still a great video. 👍
Well, the Kaffeemacher have a special Scace portafilter that they use for their 58mm machines, but I do not know how they measured with this little 51mm machine.
www.espressoparts.com/products/scace-2-espresso-machine-thermofilter-temperature-pressure-device
That being said, I did do a flush, as I always do before pulling an espresso. My thermometer multimeter is probably not super accurate, and I think it measures about 4-5 degrees low, on the top end. But it at least can show the difference with the hack.
Thanks for your input, and maybe I will try this again, when I can find a better method for measuring..
Hi Tom, thanks for your video. I would like to understand why when I remove the portafilter, I often find the coffee wet on the surface, sometimes even some water. Thank you so much!
This can happen to any machine. It depends mainly on how much your dose is. Try 16 grams, and wait 60 seconds before removing.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner thank you very much!
Great video. What coffe you use?
Hey Joao, thanks. Here's a couple suggestions for Europe. If you are outside of Europe, I would recommend to go to a local roaster.
Coffee Beans for guaranteed crema: kit.co/tomscoffeecorner/coffee-beans
I would add that one of the most important things for a good extraction is water flow thermal stability on contact with a puck. All prosumer machines maintain a constant temperature of their group head. With Dedica you can do it by preheating its group head ahead of time. How do you do it? I found a hack of keeping dripping water in your portalfilter for 5-7 minutes by placing a puck screen inside an empty portalfilter. If you want to make a video on this one, don't forget to mention me! 😜
Hey DL, can you elaborate on the puck screen? Do you mean to put it in an empty basket and pull an empty shot, then wait 5 minutes?
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Hey Tom, this is almost what I meant. I suggest that when you pull 2-3 double shots in a row, while having puck screen in your empty portalfilter, it causes most of the third shot water stay inside the portafilter and heat up any piece of metal around it - portafilter, puck screen, metal parts of your group head. I can't say that's a game changer, but it makes the actual double-espresso shot coming after more round and sweet.
@@oborotenn Ok, now that is interesting...I will have to give that a try! Thanks for the tip!
Hello Tom, really great video! I will definitely try it on my Dedica to see the difference that makes in taste.
I have a weird idea that you may find interesting/worthy to try:
In a previous video you mentioned that the thermoblock is far away from the group head, thus the temperature instability. If we somehow replace the plastic water tube with a metal one (that retains heat better than plastic) could it improve the stability?
Hey Theodore, thanks for the kind words! All the machines I have opened up until now transfer the water with some kind of plastic tubing. Maybe because it has to be flexible. Does somebody else have a good idea?
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Maybe wrapping some sort of isolation around the plastic tube would help similarly as tube in car engine rooms sometimes are wrapped?
I have just bought a dedica second hand and I can't wait to start tinkering with it getting the most out of it. Love your videos.
@@sjurursteinholm5368 Yes a wrap could work. But there seems to be some discrepancies in the results. Many people say the Dedica is not hot enough, others say it gets too hot at its peak. I would suggest experimenting with different beans, and the temp surfing first, then hacking. Cheers!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner I may easily be wrong about it, but i think the commercial machines have metal tubes, not plastic. Maybe replacing a (large) part of the tube with metal, but i dont know which end, the one on the pump or the group head. As it seems from your experiment with the temp sensor, dedica does not get over-the-limit hot, it just significantly drops some degrees when brewing.
Hi Tom good to see you tested the temp hack idea, well done!! I see the temp starting the extraction is quite high, should be around 92 degrees for medium roast coffee. Maybe waiting a number of blinking the steam button and then stop it could control better the desired temp value. I also notice the starting PF temp is higher in the hack test probably due to the previous tests and that could contribute to the high peak starting the extraction. I do not have a probe to insert to the PB so my option is to test based on taste, but for sure are very helpful the graphs in the video!!!
Hey Rincon, I think the starting peak is higher not due to the previous pulls, but because the thermoblock was still heated up from steam mode. And this is going to be most likely somewhat variable, depending on how much steam/water is released upon purging after turning back on.
I think it would be more ergonomic to try pulling a shot after going to steam mode just shortly, as checkwhatisleft and you mention. I will experiment with that a little, and post some results soon. Cheers!
You really know how to make the Dedica shine!
The water coming out of my DeLonghi La Specialista seems to be at 191f with no coffee in the PF. The hack does not change this. My manual says at one point that you can set custom temperatures beyond LMH, but does not explain how. Really, all the espresso machine has to do is present water to the PF at a specified temperature and pressure and stop after a predefined amount of water has passed through the PF. The thing that boggles my mind is that many machines have lots of bells and whistles but do not perform this basic function reliably, instead hacking around how the pump alone performs to poorly approximate this with such hacks as a poorly calibrated OPV that dumps hot water back into the water reservoir.
Hey Tom, well 191 Fahrenheit isn't a bad place to start, but ideally you'd want 200 for the extraction.
I agree, it would be nice if these machines would provide a stable extraction temperature within the desired range. But I guess that is why people retrofit PIDs on a lot of machines. I do not know how this could be done however, on a thermoblock machine. Thanks for watching, Tom!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Yes it is annoying that I have to jump through hoops to try to get the temperature higher. The Decent does it by slightly overheating the water and then mixing it with a bit of cold water to get the desired precise temperature. PID is just a fancy name for a computer tied to a bit of process control. It used to be an acronym for Programmable Interrupt Device which was a chip that you would interface to a CPU to generate interrupts. Nowadays it seems to be used as a fancy marketing term in the coffee industry for a cheesy display tied to some sensors and controllers.
@@TomJones-tx7pb Actually, a PID is a proportional integral derivative controller, at least that is how I know it. Based on the values entered or omitted for the proportional, integral, and derivative gain, you get different feedback results (quicker, slower, hysteresis, oscillation).
@@TomsCoffeeCorner yeah I know. One of my careers was in industrial process control. Built systems to completely automate steel manufacture from ores, upgrade the Belgium power network, upgrade various states in the USA for power generation and distribution, automate monitoring nuclear waste site, etc. The algorithms you mention are not rocket science.
@@TomJones-tx7pb Hey Tom, I have to be honest that we learned more about PIDs in college than what I use on a daily basis. I hadn't heard of the interrupt definition, that's why I mentioned it. You probably had a lot more experience with feedback loops in industrial process control, than I have in drive automation. Cheers!
I got a Kottea CK150S two weeks ago and so far I've been pulling espressos that taste a bit acid and sour, not on the first sip but in the last 2/3 sips.
I suspect that pulling at a too low temperature can be the problem of the bad taste so I tried the hack from this video. By doing this hack I can feel like the water is hotter but I´m still not sure if it´s enough. I mean, I´m able to take sips as soon as I pull the espresso, it´s not that hot that I need to wait before I start to sip.
How is it for your machines? Do you need to wait for the espresso to cool a little bit before you take a sip?
Hi Joel. Well the brew water should be at 92 degrees C, but by the time it makes it through the puck and into the cup, it has cooled down quite a bit. I would say you can sip right away, but with a little caution. It should be pleasantly hot. But anyway, cheaper machines have a hard time extracting at high enough temps, and stable temps. Do you warm your espresso glasses ahead of time? That helps a lot for avoiding the cool down of the espresso too quickly. Cheers, Tom
Hey Tom, curious..what would happen if I fill the water tank with high temp water instead of normal water? Would that not automatically result in high temp extraction?
Some people have tried that but not really noticed a difference.
I use this machine too. Unfortunately i dont have better grinder for it so if i use my grinder, and use 15-17 g of bean it pulls sooo fast (like only 10-12 sec without preheating) and i can’t grind any finer. Any suggestion what to do? And i temp it as hard as i can but still i can’t make the flow slower. Because my pull always so acidic, i’m at loss now, i only ever got it right once somehow smh…
Hi! What kind of grinder do you have? Maybe it can be modded.
Hi Tom, I'm interested to your WDT tools which can stick to coffee machine. May I ask where did you buy?
Hi! I got it from Etsy:
🛠 WDT Tool: tidd.ly/3KIG541 (etsy)
Cheers, Tom
@@TomsCoffeeCorner thank you
Is the hack safe for the machine? I just bought one
Hi Tom! Seems like brewing temperature stability is not Dedica’s strongest side :-) I wonder how stable is the brewing temperature of the boiler coffee machine. Did you compare it to your Gaggia Classic?
Hey Yevgen, yes I compared the temperature curves here: th-cam.com/video/1zwBne2he0A/w-d-xo.html
Just fast forward to minute 22.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner thank! Looks like in that particular comparison Dedica performed worse, than in this one. What temperature was it at? Low?
Great video as always Tom, I was really interested in some temp profiling with the Dedica. I will definitely try this and check the improvements of my espresso as I typically use medium/medium-light roasts and it tends to be a little sour, hopefully, the temperature hack will solve the issue.
Very nice, Alin, I hope that you find some success with some lighter roasts. Let us know! Cheers, ☕️ Tom
Did this work on lighter roasts im curious im waiting to get my dedica
@@nickostergard47 it kinda worked, but I don't recommend using lighter roasts with the Dedica, the temperature stability is not that good as you can see, the problem is that you can't reach higher temps and be consistent. In the meantime I switched to a Gaggia Classic Pro and it's better with lighter roasts, still using the steam hack as well until I get my hands on a PID.
Hi Tom, can you please advise how to clean a clogged shower head for the Dedica?
Sure, just check out 5:15 of my descaling video, where I show how to do it. th-cam.com/video/X7u51UGUMPE/w-d-xo.html
@@TomsCoffeeCorner thanks Tom. I managed to get majority of the holes cleared. The rest are still clogged and they are near the wall of the shower screen. Any ideas?
@@randommusings48 Well, you could poke them out with a WDT tool, or maybe just keep scrubbing with a sponge. They should get cleared out. Cheers!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Thanks, I ended up using a needle like you suggested to do that. I can't believe I overthought the process.
Hi. I have been using this machine for many months and have been getting nothing but sour shots from it, no matter what I do.
I don't have the same tools to measure but the hottest temp I could get out was around 75C on the hottest setting. Could the machine just be faulty?
Hi there! Well, it all depends where you are measuring. I measure higher values than that, just above the puck. But by the time it makes it through the puck and out of the portafilter, it has cooled down of course.
Admittedly, this machine is lacking a bit of heat. I think the best thing you can do is use dark roast beans, which lend themselves better to lower temperatures. Light roasted beans need high temperatures.
Hope that helps!
Tom
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Hi Tom, thanks for the advice. I've mainly been using medium roasted beans. I'll give this a try. Thank you
Give the Delonghi ecp 35.31 a better shot then the dedica? In temperature
I think so, yes. Neither of them have a steady temp curve, but I prefer the result the ECP offers.
I don't understand. The single cup and double cup icons means heat? Sorry if I missed the explanation.
That's just when in setup mode, to choose the heat setting. 👍
@@TomsCoffeeCorner gotcha! Thanks Tom! I found an article on how to do this. Much appreciated. Do you suggest a specific heat level setting for a certain roast level?
@@MegaStamandster General rule is, the lighter the bean, the hotter the heat. But you have to experiment.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner thanks!
Привет, Том! Скажи, ты рекомендуешь выставлять максимальную температуру, а затем включать пар для нагрева и затем готовить кофе? Всегда? Или это зависит от сорта и обжарки зерна??
I always use max, but I don't always use the steam mode hack. I honestly think it's better to completely pre-heat the portafilter (sometimes I dunk it in a cup of hot water). The steam mode hack is good for trying to extract light roast though.
@@TomsCoffeeCornerа скажи, пожалуйста, у меня есть дис металлический , сетка, который ложится на таблетку кофе после тестирования. Говорят он выравнивает давление и не загрязняет варочную группу, так как таблетка закрыта внутри.. ты не использовал его? Есть ли смысл накрывать кофе ещё этим ситом, перед тем как вставить холдер в кофеварку?
@@TomsCoffeeCornerразве это безопасно готовить после включения режима пар? Износ машины поломка не страшны?
@@user-nd9pj3cr1q Я тоже об этом подумал. Как это скажется на здоровье кофеварки??? Если производитель обязывает сбрасывать температуру и давление после режима пара.
@@leonidfisherman9159 да этим блогера лишь бы ляпнуть, а последствия будем расхлёбывать мы, реальные пользователи
What temperature would you suggest to use? High?
Yes, high temperature.
I was not sure to get this or the Bambino, but the amount of hacks and such on your channels really shows the extra money isn't worth it!
Well, I have been playing wit the Bambino Plus lately, and it is wonderful to steam on. It has some cool features, too. But it doesn't feel more premium than the Dedica, and it costs 3x more. Cheers!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner yeah I am not so fussy about the steamer but if I do get into it more I know I can just mod this one.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner That's great to know as I ordered the Dedica EC785 earlier :)
@@chrispygingerpie Nice! The EC785 is probably a better deal than the EC685, since it comes with extra accessories.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Yeah, that's what I figured also.
When doing the hack are you on the highest temp mode?
Yup 👍🏻
Ok that makes sense, I would run shots on the lowest temp setting and I would get even dark roast tasting sour.
Temp hack should be done on which temp mode??? Lo, med or high??
I use high temp. Cheers!
Thanks for the clarification.
What handle are you using?
That's a Normcore 51mm bottomless.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner thanks
What is the default setting from the factory, medium?
Yes :)
we r waiting to upload a video with a 9 bar standar fix spring for the 9 bar mod.
I actually tried modifying the spring to max out at 9 bar in this video:
Tuning the DeLonghi Dedica's OPV? 5 OPV Spring Mod Tests
th-cam.com/video/fc5nWDzsRbM/w-d-xo.html
@@TomsCoffeeCorner i saw that video tom. i mean how to found an already fix spring like the gaggia classic set springs like the shadesofcoffee and not to modified the original spring.
@@2salonika Ah I see. That would be better. I have not found one myself. It is also quite a big pain in the butt to open the OPV...let me know if you find a spring made for the Dedica. Cheers!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner i ll make my research and if i discover somethin i will inform you but it will you make it first i will wait a answeome video
i noticed it bubbles at the end when the water is too hot?
Could you give me a Timestamp to look at? I’m not sure which part you mean.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner at the end when you showed the bad example.
Well, you don't have to went through the trouble to get higher temperature, press the steam bottom, let it blinks for 3times and cancel it, you should be able to get up to 92c for that.
That sounds like an interesting idea, too! Maybe someone can try it out and report back.
I have the feeling that letting it heat up all the way to steam mode and purging a little might maintain the heat curve a little better, but I don’t know.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner I have tried for months, 3times blink, in a way that I told u before and you didn't pay attention, did u recall that I said how to get higher temp on Delonghi superauto, it's the same way, that's temp surfing as I would call it, I posted it on barista form months ago.
If you think that the machine warms up to 80ish °C within 60-90", then a few seconds might be enough to raise the temp just a few degrees.
@@checkwhatsleft4565 Hey there, I did pay attention but you are right that I forgot to include it in the video. I will have to try that and compare both methods. Your method anyway would save time and water. Cheers!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner I don't mind that you mentioned it on ur video or not, but it was effective, however, room temperature plays a role in the actual brew temp, for example that 3blinks doesn't work all the time, if there was room temperature fluctuation.
Why not measure the temperature as it fills the shot glass? The thought of that probe wire crushing the seal hurts my head. 🙂
Well the liquid loses temp so fast coming out of the basket. It's also hard to keep the probe aimed properly. Lastly, if you hold it in the glass, it will read different temps at different heights within the glass.
The group head is the most accurate place to put the probe, because that is where the extraction is taking place. The group head and gasket are still fine - just the temp probe is starting to look rough. Cheers!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner did you use the thermocouple (I assume 2 wire k-type) that came with your multimeter? Or it is a special one for this application?
Is it me or what ? - the normal med temp was lower than the normal low temp and the hacked higher temp was lower than the normal high temp - so the results are really crazy here
The temps do waver a bit, but in general the higher temp is still higher on average than the low or med temps. The hacked temp starts higher, and stays higher throughout the extraction. Cheers!
I didn't know that I was hacking I would make Steam milk then shut the machine off and then on lol
Haha, not bad - doing the hack inadvertently. 👍🏻
That is not the proper hack. In order to obtain the proper temperature you have to first run a blank shot with the empty portafilter in. After that, immediately press again the double shot button and let it run only for the length of the preinfusion. Then when it pauses stop it. Then repeat the last step and wait about 1 min before brewing. That is how you obtain the perfect temperature. Take a look here for the measurements: th-cam.com/video/MjzujhueXQA/w-d-xo.html
Hello Christy, the video is 35 minutes long. Can you tell me where in the video of the temperature measurement is?
@@TomsCoffeeCorner 17:33 The orange line.
Thank you, Christi. It looks like we ended up with different results however. I never reached that peak of 104 degrees…more like 88-92 depending on the setting. Check the graphs in my video for reference.
It would be interesting to know how they tested the temperature. I know they are Profis, but it would be good to know how we ended up at different results.
Cheers!
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My experience shows agreement with your results.
Stop doing that and get a nice 58mm portafilter machine ;)
What kind of coffee you are using for this mashine? I mean how fine is it?
Fine enough to get twice the yield, in about 25 seconds. That's a good ballpark value to start at. Cheers!