Great video. Highly informative. I just ordered none of these machines yesterday and was thinking I'd need to replace the wand. maybe I don't, now. Thank you so much😊
Thanks for this! I have been getting annoyed at getting too much froth in the jug. I thought it might have been because I use oat milk but possibly not!
Very helpful video. I have the same machine and tried to make silky smooth milk but no success, and after watching your video, I am making perfect latte with silky smooth milk.
I have the same machine. I am with you up until the pouring of the milk. After that, I disagree. I usually pour my milk really slowly using a thin stream and the cup at 45 degrees. The aim is to preserve the dark, velvety surface of the coffee. Then as the milk reaches half full, I level the cup and slowly move the pouring stream of milk like a brush to makes the shapes I want. This way, you get a lovely contrast between the milk and the coffee. Just my two cents.
Now tried your method, milk is wonderful. your life hack is absolutely the best. now I will not change the panarella, saving $ 50, thanks a lot a lot 😀
Delonghi's machine is very good! I use Magnifica S and it tastes too good and I drink too much coffee. The video was very helpful! With love from Japan :)
just wanted to say thanks. been making real foamy unsatisfying boys for a while, and nailed a silky flat white first time after watching this. respect.
Two things 1. You should probably run water through the portafilter too not just the group head for better temperature stability 2. You probably want to look in to getting a unpressurised basket as you have a lot more control over the taste and it tastes way way better
Hey dude, I am Italian, I just received yesterday my ec685. Been struggling to make a decent silky milk, so I was looking everywhere if it was just my fault or the machine. You made an outstanding video…and can’t wait to replicate it tomorrow morning(today I had more than 3 espressos only to make a decent one.. Will send you a feedback in the next days! Thanks a lot.
Just to give an explanation of what happens is that the wide steam wand (panarello) has a pinhole in it that keeps airing the milk making it frothier than silkier. The idea is to close that hole to let it heat rather than air. I have a machine where I can take that off and have a one-hole steam wand at the very bottom. That I can use to first air the milk at the top and when i have enough microfoam I can soak it deeper to start swirling and heating the milk instead. (I'm still a newbie so please correct if wrong ;)
going to give this a try! I was doing it the other way around, starting with the hot milk then going to cappuccino mode. Also interesting you keep your spout near the top of the milk. I'd seen others saying the wand should go right to the bottom to get the milk swirling but I'm going to try your way. ATM my wand seems to want to keep boiling the milk with these big explosive bubbles. I've checked for blockages, I don't know what's going on!
The best improvement for me at this moment is non pressurised basket and a hand grinder. Also if you like a flat white, pay attention when buying a coffee on a profile or flavor notes. You don't want flat to have a sour taste, try to buy a coffee with taste like prunes, chocolate or red apple rather then more fresh notes like green apple, cherry, strawberry, etc.
@@mosquito9085 Well in theory it should be, but you may need some new clamps or circlip around the wand if you damage them during the change. Still you don't have to mod any "real" parts, just disassemble, put rancilio wand in place and assemble back together.
Thank you! You've just made me relaise that I haven't actually been clicking the steam button before turning on the wand crank.. it's just been given me pure hot water and no bubbles rather than steam 😂 perfect, can't wait for my flat whites!!
I've also tried this, for some reason the first time I tried it I didn't know the rubber would fly off, and it didn't! It made a lovely latte with great textured milk. For some reason with the cable tie I just haven't been able to get it as good. It's actually not the opposite of the issue I had and it's not foaming enough, actually staying too milky!
Mine's been flying off too and I had wondered about using a rubber band - I'm so glad to read that someone has tried it and it worked! Thanks for the suggestion!
This feels like when my friend's gave me the up, down, left, right, a,b cheat code from back in the day. Will definitely be trying this out. Question, what milk are you using? Cheers
Hallo from Thai fan. I bought this model since Dec..i have still not succeed to make Latte Art but i can make silky milk which different from you. Thanks for the tip!
Yep, I performed the mod' to replace the panerello (the current steam wand which injects air) with a Rancilio Silvia steam wand. Definately worth it if you're capable with a screwdriver. Have a search in YT for the step by step guide, 1 year later, no problems.
Thanks. We were very tempted to try this mod, but ended up decided against it to retain the warranty on our machine. The Silvia wand is solid - glad to hear you’ve had no issues.
Hi I have just opened this from box. Trying to use it for first time but no water is coming out of that filter thing when I press the cup symbol. Is it broken? If it makes a difference it is EC78X
Thanks… I’ve followed your vid and countless others but I still end up getting really runny milk at the start of the pour and then just froth at the end… I thought this trick might be the solution for me but still the same results… has anyone else had the same experience? Any other tips out there??
Please could you help me with my problem in descaling the machine? I followed step by step the how to clean it but the orange light keeps blinking after descaling. What did I do wrong ? Thank you for any one’s help.
I am a newbie and read about changing the milk wand for this EC685. May I just ask the experienced coffee makers that if I use the method this video is showing, there is basically no need to change the milk wand for EC685? Thanks in advance.
The best way to get good froth milk from Dedica EC685 is to throw away the metal bit (Panarello) into the bin and use just the rubbery/silicone wand that sits inside it. Then a simple hack is needed to prevent it from falling off after 2-3 sec when the steam is introduced - put a cheap plastic clamp tie/band on the top part of this silicone wand and... that's it. Now you have a steaming wand that can froth milk for latte art :)
@@dronetr208 Hmm, from my experience this method gives the best results once you get a grip of it. Maybe your steaming technique (without a Panarello) needs a bit of practice? Just be patient and should be happy with the results :)
thats what i did :D just a zip tie to fix the soft plastic wand thingy in place. the panarello allows everyone to get some foam. with it removed you are responsible for it but once you learn the technique you will get far supperior results (-> proper microfoam for latte art). the trick is to first blow some air into the milk by keeping the "wand" on the edge of the milk where it makes like a paper ripping sound. when you increased the volume by about 1/3 you put the "wand" deeper into the milk to get the milk to spin like a tornado and heat it up to about 55°. when done, smack your milk jug against the table a bit and swirl it and you have wonderful, silky microfoam. now go and watch some latte art tutorials.
@@patriciaschneider-zioga2500 Use a clamp or twist tie to tighten it on the top. This should prevent coming off. I've been using it like this for more than 2 years.
Thanks for the video, our machine is brand new and we find that when inserting the filter holder and locking in place it is very stiff and we need to hold onto the machine to stop it moving. Does it loosen over time or do we have a fault? Thanks
I have the exact machine, but when I push the far left button to start the extraction, it often just drips a bit and does nothing. I then have to push the same far left button 2-3 times before it starts the extraction process fully. Anyone know why it won't start the process after just one button push like it should?
Thank you for this video. Now i can put back my wand back to its place. I always get a foam with my flat white bec of the cappuccino mode. Thank youuuuu!
The best way to get good froth milk from Dedica EC685 is to throw away the metal bit (Panarello) into the bin and use just the rubbery/silicone wand that sits inside it. Then a simple hack is needed to prevent it from falling off after 2-3 sec when the steam is introduced - put a cheap plastic clamp tie/band on the top part of this silicone wand and... that's it. Now you have a steaming wand that can froth milk for latte art :)
If the milk thickness and the wand quality is the most important thing to me, should I go for a different machine? Maybe a separate milk frothing device? This is my budget though. I don’t need beautiful art just thick milk, the opposite of water.
I've just spent a lot of money on a twin-boiler Silva and a pricey grinder... but I still rate the Dedica as a great little machine, especially if you use this method to thicken your foam. Milk frothing devices are the opposite, giving you empty froth that immediately rises, leaving you with just hot coffee with a foam lid on it. This hack will give you that nice, cafe-quality mouth-feel of silky coffee. I have the older Dedica that doesn't allow this adjustment. If it did I may have just kept it instead of spending $2k on coffee gear ;)
I cheated and bought a Nespresso milk frother, after seeing one at my brother’s place. I got a really nice one, stainless steel chrome shaped like a milk jug. It’s great. I couldn’t for the life of me make milk with a steam wand. And I don’t seem to have cappuccino/hot milk adjustment on my Delonghi I think is Dedica model, it’s red. My mum had been steaming milk for years with the wand since she was given a Delonghi, different model much more manual and I can’t even make coffee in that one haha. When she tried my milk frother, she went out and bought one, a cheaper copycat version of Nespresso, and it works really well. I don’t really have a lot of time to fuss around with the steam wand, so this method works well. And I use ESE pods in my coffee machine which also saves a lot of time. I don’t have coffee every day so I like that they’re individually foil sealed, so the coffee doesn’t go off.
Yes you can definitely use it for hot chocolate. I’ll admit I don’t use the steam wand, I use a separate milk frother because I couldn’t work it out, but I often use it for hot chocolate. And yes you definitely need water, as it uses steam (gaseous form of water) to froth the milk, that’s why it’s called a steam wand.
After about six tries my latte art is getting pretty wild...and I can barely type this..should have practiced with decaf. Great explanation and video.
😂😂
One scoop of coffee is for single use ?
😅😂
Honestly, the best tutorial I’ve seen. Thanks for the advice and good luck with the channel.
Excellent video. Never thought of shifting the steam wand mid way through. Cool idea.
thank you for sharing. this is the best tutorial so far without need to change the steam wand
Great video. Highly informative. I just ordered none of these machines yesterday and was thinking I'd need to replace the wand. maybe I don't, now. Thank you so much😊
By far the Best tutorial . Thank you 🙏🏻
Thanks for the tutorial. That little trick worked well!
will do this one later. I have had mines since August of last year. The best buy of last year I must say!
great video ! Just recently got the dedica deluxe and grinder so im new at this ..best tutorial so far !!
Great demo. Thanks 👌🏽
Wow this is exactly the same trick I've been using on my ec685! It's great to see others have discovered this handy trick too!
Same here. But it's still not a joy to use. Sooner or later I'm going to switch to a better machine.
@@nomissimo why is that?
@@nomissimo Just take off the thing and you have a perfect steam wand
@@ridhwanramli9079it's obviously not as easy to use as a normal steam wand like the one that comes on the Dedica Arte
I thought exactly that regarding the tasteless foam. Great video thanks
Freakin LEGEND. Do try it out guys! Thanks for sharing!!
Works great! Thanks for sharing! 🖐🏻🤠☕️
Thanks so much for sharing this!!
Thanks, very helpful one!
Great tutorial!
Your video is the best! Thanks so much.
Great video! I was trying and trying to get silky milk with my Dedica and never succeeded but now, thanks to your tips I finally made it!!! 😄
Mee too
Thank you! I’be bern thinking of replacing my dedica but after trying this trick, I am now actually enjoying my coffee! It is nice and silky.
Lovely jubbly. I need to try this!
Thanks for this! I have been getting annoyed at getting too much froth in the jug. I thought it might have been because I use oat milk but possibly not!
Thank you for sharing 😊
Great tutorial
Very helpful video. I have the same machine and tried to make silky smooth milk but no success, and after watching your video, I am making perfect latte with silky smooth milk.
I have the same machine. I am with you up until the pouring of the milk. After that, I disagree. I usually pour my milk really slowly using a thin stream and the cup at 45 degrees. The aim is to preserve the dark, velvety surface of the coffee. Then as the milk reaches half full, I level the cup and slowly move the pouring stream of milk like a brush to makes the shapes I want. This way, you get a lovely contrast between the milk and the coffee. Just my two cents.
please make a video of it so we can see
Talk is easy
Its best tutorial , you're amazing
Wow I ll try tomorrow. Thanks
Wow that was so helpful
cheers for this, mate..🙋🏻♂️😬👍🏻
Now tried your method, milk is wonderful. your life hack is absolutely the best. now I will not change the panarella, saving $ 50, thanks a lot a lot 😀
Brilliant. Thanks
Thanks for this. Just bought this machine today and had so much cappuccino froth so this sounds great
Great video and great coffee
Great video!
omggg thanks for the tut
LEGEND , THANKS MAN
Great video thanks
Delonghi's machine is very good! I use Magnifica S and it tastes too good and I drink too much coffee. The video was very helpful! With love from Japan :)
Thanks this was great!
nice trick mate...thanks all the way from Malaysia✌️✌️👏👏
Great one!!
just wanted to say thanks. been making real foamy unsatisfying boys for a while, and nailed a silky flat white first time after watching this. respect.
Thank you 😊
what coffee brand and beans did you use in this video? the coffee looked amazing.
thank u, nice hack!
Yummie, thank you
Thanks for the video
How many seconds do you wait for espresso extraction?
Well done champ!
Two things
1. You should probably run water through the portafilter too not just the group head for better temperature stability
2. You probably want to look in to getting a unpressurised basket as you have a lot more control over the taste and it tastes way way better
I have the ECAM 420 bean to cup, has the same wand and have had issues so I hope this cracks it!great video
Hey dude, I am Italian, I just received yesterday my ec685. Been struggling to make a decent silky milk, so I was looking everywhere if it was just my fault or the machine. You made an outstanding video…and can’t wait to replicate it tomorrow morning(today I had more than 3 espressos only to make a decent one.. Will send you a feedback in the next days! Thanks a lot.
Thanks. It was the one thing that made me not want this machine. This is perfect!! Made my day.
Just to give an explanation of what happens is that the wide steam wand (panarello) has a pinhole in it that keeps airing the milk making it frothier than silkier. The idea is to close that hole to let it heat rather than air. I have a machine where I can take that off and have a one-hole steam wand at the very bottom. That I can use to first air the milk at the top and when i have enough microfoam I can soak it deeper to start swirling and heating the milk instead.
(I'm still a newbie so please correct if wrong ;)
thanks for the video! You are amazing!
Thanks for your help! Could you please tell how much coffee powder for one cup of coffee?
going to give this a try! I was doing it the other way around, starting with the hot milk then going to cappuccino mode. Also interesting you keep your spout near the top of the milk. I'd seen others saying the wand should go right to the bottom to get the milk swirling but I'm going to try your way. ATM my wand seems to want to keep boiling the milk with these big explosive bubbles. I've checked for blockages, I don't know what's going on!
Amazing
thanks, that's useful.
Hi do you make any modifications to the portafilter that came with the machine?
very detail and clear video. you pro..
The best improvement for me at this moment is non pressurised basket and a hand grinder. Also if you like a flat white, pay attention when buying a coffee on a profile or flavor notes. You don't want flat to have a sour taste, try to buy a coffee with taste like prunes, chocolate or red apple rather then more fresh notes like green apple, cherry, strawberry, etc.
Better Latter Art you can get when you buy the rancilo silva steaming wand for this Delongi mnachine. I did and I recomend.
The Silvia wand is a beast!
Is it reversible? Can you put the old one back if you need to?
@@mosquito9085 Well in theory it should be, but you may need some new clamps or circlip around the wand if you damage them during the change. Still you don't have to mod any "real" parts, just disassemble, put rancilio wand in place and assemble back together.
Can you share the grind for the coffee? Is it too fine or coarse?
Hi. How long to froth in cappuccino mode before shift to hot milk?
Thank you! You've just made me relaise that I haven't actually been clicking the steam button before turning on the wand crank.. it's just been given me pure hot water and no bubbles rather than steam 😂 perfect, can't wait for my flat whites!!
In my case, I remove the external tube and hold with a rubber band the plastic part. It works really good. I'll give it a try to your technique
Thanks. Good idea with the rubber band, as we’ve had it fly off in our trials. Defo worth a go!
@@firstworldproblems6623 better solution! With a cable strap (like these ones images.app.goo.gl/7WQcns2b5bHRgmqV9) it works really good!
I've also tried this, for some reason the first time I tried it I didn't know the rubber would fly off, and it didn't! It made a lovely latte with great textured milk. For some reason with the cable tie I just haven't been able to get it as good. It's actually not the opposite of the issue I had and it's not foaming enough, actually staying too milky!
Mine's been flying off too and I had wondered about using a rubber band - I'm so glad to read that someone has tried it and it worked! Thanks for the suggestion!
Nice one
This feels like when my friend's gave me the up, down, left, right, a,b cheat code from back in the day.
Will definitely be trying this out.
Question, what milk are you using?
Cheers
With the older one you can pull the portello thing off and just use the rubber - problem is it's very short, too short for most jugs.
Hallo from Thai fan. I bought this model since Dec..i have still not succeed to make Latte Art but i can make silky milk which different from you. Thanks for the tip!
Hi! Can you recommend me a coffe for this machine please?? I don’t know which coffe to use and I just ordered this machine. Thank you!
wow you can actually use dat kind of steam wand, I always unplug the tube for more direct steaming
Yep, I performed the mod' to replace the panerello (the current steam wand which injects air) with a Rancilio Silvia steam wand. Definately worth it if you're capable with a screwdriver. Have a search in YT for the step by step guide, 1 year later, no problems.
Thanks. We were very tempted to try this mod, but ended up decided against it to retain the warranty on our machine. The Silvia wand is solid - glad to hear you’ve had no issues.
@@firstworldproblems6623 Me too. Still unsure to take that leap of faith.
I did that to my Gaggia and it makes perfect microfoam after that modification
Dedica owners unite! With this hack we will be unstoppable.
whats the size of your milk jug? thanks!
Begins at 2:30 for those in a hurry
Dope👊🏾
Hello. I cannot turn on this machine without attaching the filter. Did you face the issue?
Hi I have just opened this from box. Trying to use it for first time but no water is coming out of that filter thing when I press the cup symbol. Is it broken? If it makes a difference it is EC78X
So its more complicated/impossible on the 680? Im asking haha
So how much milk did you used? 150ml 200?
Thanks… I’ve followed your vid and countless others but I still end up getting really runny milk at the start of the pour and then just froth at the end… I thought this trick might be the solution for me but still the same results… has anyone else had the same experience? Any other tips out there??
Please could you help me with my problem in descaling the machine? I followed step by step the how to clean it but the orange light keeps blinking after descaling. What did I do wrong ? Thank you for any one’s help.
i have this machine and i don't know how to use it to stream milk .
your video , it very helpful with me.
Thank you very much.
Mine is making a pulsating sound when steaming milk, is there something wrong with my dedica?
Thanks
Hey man. My steamer is not frothing milk. Any tutorial for that?
I am a newbie and read about changing the milk wand for this EC685. May I just ask the experienced coffee makers that if I use the method this video is showing, there is basically no need to change the milk wand for EC685? Thanks in advance.
The best way to get good froth milk from Dedica EC685 is to throw away the metal bit (Panarello) into the bin and use just the rubbery/silicone wand that sits inside it. Then a simple hack is needed to prevent it from falling off after 2-3 sec when the steam is introduced - put a cheap plastic clamp tie/band on the top part of this silicone wand and... that's it. Now you have a steaming wand that can froth milk for latte art :)
Tried it before but didnt ger the best results.
@@dronetr208 Hmm, from my experience this method gives the best results once you get a grip of it. Maybe your steaming technique (without a Panarello) needs a bit of practice? Just be patient and should be happy with the results :)
thats what i did :D just a zip tie to fix the soft plastic wand thingy in place. the panarello allows everyone to get some foam. with it removed you are responsible for it but once you learn the technique you will get far supperior results (-> proper microfoam for latte art). the trick is to first blow some air into the milk by keeping the "wand" on the edge of the milk where it makes like a paper ripping sound. when you increased the volume by about 1/3 you put the "wand" deeper into the milk to get the milk to spin like a tornado and heat it up to about 55°. when done, smack your milk jug against the table a bit and swirl it and you have wonderful, silky microfoam. now go and watch some latte art tutorials.
I tried that and the rubbery wand just came off under the pressure of the steam.
@@patriciaschneider-zioga2500 Use a clamp or twist tie to tighten it on the top. This should prevent coming off. I've been using it like this for more than 2 years.
Great video - thanks! How many ml of milk did you use? 120ml/180ml?
120
Thanks for the video, our machine is brand new and we find that when inserting the filter holder and locking in place it is very stiff and we need to hold onto the machine to stop it moving. Does it loosen over time or do we have a fault? Thanks
i have one of these for a year and do not have that complaint. sure it's a fault
I think that happens when you’ve put too much coffee in your filter/basket.
This only happens when there is alot of coffe in the basket try putting the basket empty does it have the same problem.
What's the difference in the two modes?
I have the exact machine, but when I push the far left button to start the extraction, it often just drips a bit and does nothing. I then have to push the same far left button 2-3 times before it starts the extraction process fully. Anyone know why it won't start the process after just one button push like it should?
Thank you for this video! Now I know what separated me from nice silky milk for a latte art
Thank you for this video. Now i can put back my wand back to its place. I always get a foam with my flat white bec of the cappuccino mode.
Thank youuuuu!
Inserting the single basket in portafilter is impossible to me why is it different from inserting the double basket ?
nice hack... btw is it possible to change the steam wand something better for frothing?
The best way to get good froth milk from Dedica EC685 is to throw away the metal bit (Panarello) into the bin and use just the rubbery/silicone wand that sits inside it. Then a simple hack is needed to prevent it from falling off after 2-3 sec when the steam is introduced - put a cheap plastic clamp tie/band on the top part of this silicone wand and... that's it. Now you have a steaming wand that can froth milk for latte art :)
If the milk thickness and the wand quality is the most important thing to me, should I go for a different machine? Maybe a separate milk frothing device? This is my budget though. I don’t need beautiful art just thick milk, the opposite of water.
I've just spent a lot of money on a twin-boiler Silva and a pricey grinder... but I still rate the Dedica as a great little machine, especially if you use this method to thicken your foam. Milk frothing devices are the opposite, giving you empty froth that immediately rises, leaving you with just hot coffee with a foam lid on it. This hack will give you that nice, cafe-quality mouth-feel of silky coffee. I have the older Dedica that doesn't allow this adjustment. If it did I may have just kept it instead of spending $2k on coffee gear ;)
I cheated and bought a Nespresso milk frother, after seeing one at my brother’s place. I got a really nice one, stainless steel chrome shaped like a milk jug. It’s great. I couldn’t for the life of me make milk with a steam wand. And I don’t seem to have cappuccino/hot milk adjustment on my Delonghi I think is Dedica model, it’s red. My mum had been steaming milk for years with the wand since she was given a Delonghi, different model much more manual and I can’t even make coffee in that one haha. When she tried my milk frother, she went out and bought one, a cheaper copycat version of Nespresso, and it works really well. I don’t really have a lot of time to fuss around with the steam wand, so this method works well. And I use ESE pods in my coffee machine which also saves a lot of time. I don’t have coffee every day so I like that they’re individually foil sealed, so the coffee doesn’t go off.
Can I just use the milk frother for my hot chocolate? And do I need to have water in the tank to just use the frother? Thanks for any help with this.
I think you always need water
Yes you can definitely use it for hot chocolate. I’ll admit I don’t use the steam wand, I use a separate milk frother because I couldn’t work it out, but I often use it for hot chocolate. And yes you definitely need water, as it uses steam (gaseous form of water) to froth the milk, that’s why it’s called a steam wand.
how many grams of grinded coffee did you put into the portafilter? nice tutorial!
Thanks! Somewhere between 12g and 15g in the standard pressurised double shot basket.