The '90s Marvel Cartoon Multiverse Was Confusing
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 เม.ย. 2024
- Multiverses might be all the rage in super hero movies right now, but this isn't the first time Marvel ventured across realities. Kyle Anderson takes you back to the 90s to break down the confusing multiverse of Marvel cartoons.
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Theres just so many factual errors in this video. Its pretty disappointing to see such lackluster research. Like, this is really sloppy and perpetuating a lot of misinformation from fan wiki pages that are also incorrect but no one does the research necessary to challenge them.
Yeah they got so much wrong like Spider-Man unlimited being in a different universe is incorrect the show takes place on counter earth
@@NadeemShekh-uy9znit is counter earth, but in a different universe than what Spider-Man the animated series takes place in.
Does this mean we'll get a more comprehensive video from you? Hmm
This is one of the nerdiest threads I've ever encountered. I actually consider myself a pretty big nerd but this is a bit too much for me lol
Bet it makes you wanna do a video about the 90’s Universe 👀
X-men and Spider-Man took place in the same universe. Spider-Man went to the X-men for help when he was mutating into an actual spider.
I don't know if character designs and voice actors changing necessarily means we're seeing different versions of the characters, as far as 90's cartoons go. Unless there's specific story points contradicting things between shows, I'd say it's all the same universe.
Captain America is trapped in an energy vortex with the Red Skull in "Spider-Man: The Animated Series", but in the "Fantastic Four" cartoon he's on earth and leader of the Avengers.
@@milesbradshaw6643Does his appearance in the FF series take place after his Spider-Man appearance? If so, who’s to say he didn’t simply escape?
yeah this is a pretty flimsy video i think every 90s marvel show is supposed to be canon with each other even if things like Silver Surfer and the Avengers show seem out of place, they also don't really contradict each other either. just look at 80s TMNT that changes voices actors and changes art styles James Avery plays Shredder in the first 7 seasons but 8,9 & 10 change the art style so are those 3 seasons not canon to the first 7? no those are all minor behind the scenes changes its not important really, its still supposed to be the same characters and canon. really bad video imo
@@javeydones5163 Nope, he was stuck in that portal with Red Skull at the beginning of a episode in Spider-Man TAS, but in after this story arc he ended up there as well. So he wouldn't be possible for him to lead Avengers. And later he appeared in Secret Wars arc in SM TAS, which helped him to escape from that portal.
That was just a writers mistake, that's all
God thank you this video sucks so hard
I'm not seeing any confusion or issues. All of these shows (other than Spider-Man Unlimited) take place in the same universe, some VA recast doesn't change the fact that they're all in the MAU.
According to Marvel data books, certain 90s Marvel cartoons are in the same universe together (Spider-Man and X- Men) or in their own (Silver Surfer).
Minus Silver Surfer. His origin in his own show and the FF cartoon contradict eachother.
@@loganmenchaca well there has been a few different silver surfers...
I was “savvy” enough to understand a multiverse as a kid watching solely Saturday cartoons lmao
Ghost Rider was on FF and Hulk. I think those were the same.
Voiced by Richard Greico
Different Hulk on FF though but same Dr Doom and Thing from FF show cross overed in the Hulk show
The thing about the Multiverse, if you think about it, is that one reality can be vastly different from another(Germany won WW2), while in another the difference is so small you can never find it(somebody ate an apple for lunch instead of a pear). Iron Man can be the pear/apple eater of the Marvel cartoons, they're so similar it appears they're the same individual when they're actually not.
I think you’re right and this is most likely: they are all variants that are so similar they’re basically like clones
Love all this, but just to avoid confusing the kids: X Men '97 is NOT five years after the cartoon ended. The cartoon began in 1992 and ran for five seasons, each of which was another year, so S1-92, S2-93, S3-94, S4-95, S5-96, so the new show is set one year later from the ending, in 1997. I know you know that, but the way you phrased it might mislead people.
Now that we have xmen 97, can we please get a continuation of Spider-Man the animated series? What happens when Peter finds the real Mary Jane? How does she handle the fact that she and Peter are married? Do they go into the events of civil war, one more day, and brand new day from there?
Well he sort of married a clone but...yeah, you try explaining that in court and not get laughed out lol. As for "One more day" I hope I never see anything to do with it
Or at the very least a movie in which Peter and Mary Jane are finally reunited.
Captain America being teased hopefully means they’ll continue this universe
@@woolfieMcPShe Hulk could help Pete
Why would they go into Civil War, OMD, and BND?
I feel like most of this is just getting too hung up on voice cast/designs and using that to indicate something being a different universe rather than plot incongruence.
I personally treat X-Men, Spider-Man, F4, Iron Man, and Hulk as one universe and any voice/design discrepancies come down to artstyle and recasting (i.e. Gambit’s cursed white sclera in Spider-Man and redesigned Strange in Incredible Hulk)
This^
Yes. You're correct. Finally someone talking sense. A voice actor recast or a costume change don't mean they're completely different characters
Yeah they're reading TOO much into this. Must've been a slow day at Nerdist
Honestly facts
Yes, there are different 90's Marvel animated universes, five specifically.
.Earth-92131: X-Men: The Animated Series and Spider-Man The Animated Series
.Earth-534834: Iron Man, Fantastic Four, and The Incredible Hulk
.Earth-634962: Silver Surfer: The Animated Series
.Earth-751263:-Spider-Man: Unlimited
.Earth-730784: Avengers: United They Stand
Side Note: Iron Man isn't jumping to different universes, the Tony Stark from Spider-Man is different from the one in the other shows.
yea that's what I see on Marvel fandom. IDK if they get their info from marvel website or some multiverse guidebook. But did not know that. This whole time I assumed they were just one universe.
@@ziljin So did I, but if you think about the inconsistencies between shows, it makes sense that their are multiple animated marvel universes.
You explain it really well, but the only contradiction would be the quick Easter egg from The fantastic four season two episode The in humans saga When Johnny and Crystal are Riding the air bike through the city And you see the juggernaut hand raising out of the water After he was thrown into the bay by gladiator in a prior X men episode.
@@DaveDTitan I'm not sure, the Marvel fandom doesn't say. Maybe something similar happened to Earth-534834's version of Juggernaut, or maybe something entirely different happened.
Spiderman was my favorite before X Men, I didn't know the Hulk show was unknown to fans, I think I liked it cause while other heros tricked or bamboozled their enemies, Hulk mostly fought big monsters........and She Hulk
According to the Marvel Database, it’s five universes; X-Men/Spider-Man (1), Iron Man/Fantastic Four/Hulk (2), Silver Surfer (3), Unlimited (4) and United They Stand (5). 🤷🏽♂️
I dont see why unlimited is cannon? I mean the show has a different cast. The high evolutionary is different in unlimited. High evolutionary appeared comic accurate in the x men cartoon.
@@Elvusmiw Unlimited is separate, though?
The Marvel Database is wrong though.
@@GodzillaMendoza Do you have any evidence for this?
@@WhiteRaven696I could actually make a whole video about that! Because i have several pages lol
Another wordless cameo: War Machine popped up on X-Men in the 'Time Fugitives' two-parter hanging with Nick Fury and GW Bridge. (He also appears in the future war with Cable, but I figured that was an animation goof.)
The Cap/Wolverine team-up episode also had a dude implied to be a young Nick Fury (pre-eyepatch) alongside his Howling Commandoes. At least I always figured it was him.
Good catch on pre eye patch unnamed nick furry. I just watched the episode last week catching up.
I didn't pick up on it, but I think your right.
*pushes glasses up* actually punisher does appear in X-men in non speaking roles but one of them was a mojo verse robot assuming his appearance. Nick fury also has a non-speaking cameo in x-men. Been doing a rewatch of x-men so it’s been a ride
Yeah and ghost rider.
@toomuch535 oh yeah. Ghost rider was actually in both x-men and fantastic four. He knocked out galactus if I recall correctly
@@nicholassmith5537he was in the Hulk series as well
You should do a part 2 with how confusing the timeline is for Ultimate Spider-Man, Avengers Assemble, Hulk & the Agents of SMASH, Guardians of the Galaxy, Spider-Man 2017 & the Marvel Rising specials.
It's been done
you are making it more confusing than it should be
You're just taking something straight forward and making it complicated. I was 10 when i statted watching these shows, and even then, i understood and accepted that they were all meant to take place in the same universe. Its not that complicated.
Recently watched the Secret Wars episodes of the Spider-Man 90's show and loved how they mixed the x-men, fantastic 4 and Captain America. Although in hindsight, Cap was a bad choice. In the episode they literally had giant sandworms and all Cap could do was hit them and say "This thing has it's own armour, it doesn't even feel my fist!" and had to be saved at every turn. I could not stop laughingggg, forgot how much I hated Cap before Chris Evans in Winter Soldier lolllll
Lizard was there to replace Hulk because the actor was unavailable
Cap has always been a C-list character, until Chris Evans. Steve Rogers was never really a good character, and was(and still is) just Captain Propaganda
Symbiote hated Shocker because of his gauntlets
Everyone talks about the x-men intro as being badass but the incredible hulk intro is the g.o.a.t.
I hope that Disney and Marvel revives Iron Man Fantastic Four Spiderman and The Incredible Hulk animated series from the 90s soon because for me these are my favorite Best Marvel shows ever and i want all these shows be connected to Xmen 97 and have a true Secret Wars version with all the Avengers and Xmen just like in the storyline
And don't even get me started on Hydro-Man's inconsistencies from 'Spider-Man' to that episode of 'Fantastic Four'!
The 1994 Spider-Man and Fantastic Four cartoons are set in separate earths from each other.
Here in Latin America, all of the 90s Marvel cartoons aired on Fox Kids. I was a big fan of the Spider-Man, X-Men and Hulk series, I only watch a bit of Iron-Man and I barely managed to watch some episodes of Fantastic Four, Silver Surfer and Avengers
I think those shows were my first introduction to a shared universe. Know that I think about it, if Spider-Man and Hulk would have a crossover back then, it'd have been weird hearing Peter and Bruce talk to each other since they were voiced by the same VA in the Neutral Spanish dub. That kind of reminds me that in the crossover between Spider-Man and The X-Men, only Wolverine and Storm were voiced by their original VAs in that dub, and that Silver Sulfer was dubbed in Venezuela while Avengers was dubbed in Chile, the rest of the 90s Marvel cartoons were dubbed in Mexico
The "SHOCKERRRR" clip is so iconic
That discrepances mirrors the discrepancies the Marvel comics had back in the 60s. In june you could have Spider-Man dissappearing for one month without anyone knowing where the hell he is, then some days later he appears in a Fantastic Four comic as if nothing really happened, then in july he is found in his comics.
Different creative teams, that's just it. And no one claimed there is a "Marvel Multiverse inside 616".
I watched Ironman and fantastic four on ktla. The la station.
The hulk aired late in the morning on Sunday on upn I think.
unpopular opinion but my favorite show was hands down Spider-Man
I remember UPN smackdown used to come on UPN, then they merged with WB to become the CW
a fellow Denver 90s kid. The Justice League guest stared on 'Static Shock' while they were both on air concurrently
Don’t forget that the Silver Surfer crossed over with King of the Hill
my favorite one was either x-men or spider-man
Very insightful and well thought out thesis and video. And I agree.
Very well done 👏 ✔️ 👍🏽
That was a fun trip down memory lane. Thanks for squaring that up for me. 🤘😎🤘
I think it's definitely safe to say that Spider-Man, Iron Man, X-Men, and FF all take place in the same universe, and with Iron Man's integration into Incredible Hulk with same design meaning Hulk is most likely a part of it.
They CAN all be the same universe, except for Silver Surfer 🫤
Also Ben Riley made an appearance of fantastic 4
Different characters, the Ben Reily in "Spider-Man: The Animated Series" is from a universe where New York is ravaged by his evil twin Spider-Carnage.
While we're talking theme tunes, how about some love for the Iron Man season 2 intro? That is the most 90s ish ever committed to TV.
Spiderman multiple spiderman was because of weird Multiversal stuff. What?? The whole thing had spiderman from other universes teaming up to stop Peter Parker that bonded with carnage. it literally is multiverse. it was the reason we have into the spiderverse.
I remember watching all of these cartoons growing up. It was Awesome. I never cared if they match up or made sense. It just was fun to watch.
Pretty cool video! I had a small debate recently with a fan who thinks that the X-men 92 cartoon stands completely on its own. I don’t agree with him but he was a very tough person to deal with, so I’m just letting him believe what he wants to. However it’s nice to find other people who agree with me about the connections between Spider-man and X-men. Also thanks for playing the Rogue and Spidey clip! I’ve always thought that they were cute together and thanks for sharing the joke about Iron man’s other 90s appearances which made me laugh a lot! Another fantastic video, dude!
When Magnus presented Asteroid M at UN in Sanctuary , War Machine appeared for 2 consecutive seconds.
Nick Fury has a cameo in a episode of season 1 or 2 of X-Men with War Machine in a SHIELD ship
cap origin is what seperate these animated show form being in the same continuity
What about Ghost Rider appearing in Hulk, and Fantastic Four, both, I believe, voiced by Richard Grieco. Plus, I think that he also had a non-speaking cameo in X-Men, too.
They are all in same universe the costume changes was because of comics! See the fantastic four come back after two seasons to spiderman animated to secret wars with hero reborn suits! Hulk look in iron man is the same in the comics too! Hulk vs Hulkbuster from comics! Look after Amazing Spiderman issue 382 and incredible hulk issue 401! :)
X-Men is the best one, but since we’re going with favorite that isn’t X-Men, I’m actually gonna say Silver Surfer. It’s a shame it was so short-lived. It is one of Marvel’s most criminally underrated projects, honestly.
Wouldn't Venom just hate the Shocker because he'd be unusually vulnerable to his power?
I think you overcomplicated it....they're all in the same universe, and as you pointed out in a few occasions - sometimes their voices are re-cast.
If a character appears in another show...it's the same character. But just like in comic books, sometimes the characters are written by different people, so different aspects of their personalities are on display.
This video explains it all a little bit more succinctly:
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The only real inconsistancy is the Hulk. Everything else seems to line up relatively well.
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The Avengers appeared in non-speaking roles on a few season two episodes of the FF cartoon (a few of the X-Men did as well). A poster of Captain America appeared during a flashback sequence in the Omega Red episode of X-Men: TAS.
the avengers were also referenced in the first episode of spider-man the animated series.
So I think a lot of these examples can be brushed off, since actors change VAs even within their shows (Magneto and Storm were practically volleyed back and forth), characters change looks all the time, and in fact the Hulk's nebulous nature is even part of the character's lore. It is a little strange they dropped Wanda's accent, though the show does state she comes from that part of the world. (The episode really is kind of weird in that she is just dropped into the show, with Wolverine apparently being familiar with her.)
In the Spider-Man show, when they introduce Nick Fury, he is believed to be dead by the world at large, and SHIELD's endeavors top secret. However, as of Iron Man he seems to regularly walk in and out of Tony Stark's office. Now, as a weapons manufacturer, it's not completely out there he would be privy to top secret stuff, but Stark and Iron Man are treated like wild cards, and he doesn't seem to act like he has a big smoking gun over their heads.
In the Iron Man show, when Stark and Banner meet for the first time, the latter seems to be familiar with the Leader, but I feel like when he's introduced on the Hulk show, Banner seems to be somewhat unfamiliar with him, (or not recognizing that he was Sterns).
In my opinion the biggest discrepancy is Sasquatch. He appears in the second season of X-Men, as a member of Alpha Flight, and inferred to be a mutant, but is introduced in The Hulk cartoon as someone who has been treating himself with Gamma radiation and by the end of the episode has exiled himself to the wild.
There's also something I overall call "The Avengers problem". The Avengers are name-dropped in the first episode of the Spider-Man, but Captain America is as of the events of the show, in stasis. (I believe he also doesn't know who Iron Man is at the time). He also mentions the Defenders, but is unfamiliar with Doctor Strange (But is familiar with the Hulk, who does not seem to have any association with any team and I believe meets the Doc for the first time.) It can probably be explained does raise questions on who the lineups of those teams are. We are actually shown a lineup of non-speaking Avengers in the introduction to an FF episode. The animation includes Vision, She-Hulk, Captain America, Goliath, Justice/Marvel Boy, Darkhawk and Speedball (never an Avenger in the comics!). I think maybe Hercules, but I know he was shown in a group shot in the finale episode. Iron Man is also considered a member. The big ones are Cap (who was in stasis at the time) and She-Hulk (who would get an origin in the Hulk show.) I guess to rationalize one would have to arrange episodes of various show in a chronology that doesn't match air dates, or write off silent cameos or pithy jokes.
Here’s my theory .
Fantastic 4 and Spider-Man were set in different universes in the Marvel Animated Universe (1990s)
In the Fantastic Four episode "Nightmare in Green", Scarlet Spider appears under an overhang watching Rick Jones and Human Torch fly by. This was because at the time of the series' production Ben was the primary Spider-Man and Peter was retired. However, this makes no sense within the Marvel Animated Universe as Ben never appeared in the primary universe, until “I Really, Really Hate Clones”. The logical explanation is that the Fantastic Four show is set in the same universe the Scarlet Spider comes from and subsequently the Peter Parker from the animated series has to save.
I am aware that the Fantastic Four do appear in Secret Wars , but they could just be similar alternative versions. This also explains why Spider-Man wasn’t affected by the arrival of Galactus. Also their costumes are different.
I will never understand how people review the Silver surfer cartoon as good. I considered it the most boring Marvel media ever. Although I do think it's hilarious how one episode they have drax pass out only to wake up to gasp with the crowd and then go back to passing out again. (I assume it's an animation error)
Idc, growing up with these kick ass shows. I still believe this was our MCU before there was ever even an MCU period
The same thing happened in the Disney Marvel shows. Spider man and the Avengers and the Agents of Smash where all in the same continuity. But in 2013 they brought the comic book versions of the Guardians of the Galaxy into the Spider man show. Then the movie came out. Then they made a Disney show off of the Movie versions of the Guardians. Then they crossed over with the Avengers. The same Avengers who had many cross overs with Spiderman who knew a different team of the Guardians.
We see the X-men in Fantastic Four too, on a roof, and Juggernaut coming out of the Brooklyn River.
Dear video editors: please run interlaced footage through a deinterlacing filter
For all I care, the inconsistencies are just bad character writing, voice actors recast and redesigns for no particular reason and they are all, indeed, from the same continuity/universe. I thought this video was gonna show some plot contradiction as in "how could the X character do that then when hey were supposed to be dead" or whatever.
Sadly X-Men '97 just made things even more confusing by showing that Eddie Brock still works at The Daily Bugle following the original series finale of X-Men despite becoming a supervillain in season one of the '90s Spider-Man series. Captain America is also set to make a reappearance before season one of X-Men '97 is over, so there very well may end up being contradictions between Spider-Man's depiction of his character and history and whatever happens in his next X-Men appearance.
Pretty sure that terrible Avengers cartoon had Thor and Cap cameos, so whether you like it or not, you still gotta consider it.
The Best Marvel 90s Animated Universe is Spider Man the Animated Series it's the Most Relatable and it's my Favorite, I Hope it Comes back in the future like X Men 97.
Too bad the MAU shows didn't have the same consistent writers as the DCAU did. Maybe then there'd be less continuity issues. Of course, the MAU shows were airing simultaneously, while most of the DCAU shows aired one at a time, so I guess it would've been too chaotic for the same MAU writers to be working on every show. Crazy how Fox Kids aired X-Men, Spider-Man and Batman TAS around the same time. These days you never see a Marvel and DC show airing on the same network since Disney owns Marvel now while WB has owned DC for decades.
If they do ever revive the 90s Spider-Man series I have what may or may not be such a good idea for it, they could have Flash Thompson become Toxin as a nod to Agent Venom in it.
16:14 Which is ironic, seeing how basically the whole reason behind Beyond existing was higher-ups wanted to have a teenage Batman to get Spidey's audience.
The mainline DC universe in the current incarnation of the DC multiverse, which is built upon the New 52 multiverse but has since been expanded to be infinite again, is Prime Earth or "Earth 0". Earth-One was the "main" universe in the Pre-Crisis multiverse, but Post-Crisis Pre-Flashpoint it was simply "New Earth", and could potentially also be considered the "Earth-0" of the Old 52 following Infinite Crisis and the 52 event, as there was an Earth-1 that was wholly separate from New Earth.
The Scarlet Spider, The X-men, and Juggernaut cameoed in the Fantastic four series
Okay, so I know people don’t like Spider-Man Unlimited and Avengers: UTS that much. But I like them. If only for the “obscure Marvel deep dive” factor. Unlimited was drawing straight from obscure Marvel nonsense like the Knights of Wundagore and Machine Man. It’s why I wish there was a Marvel Team-Up show. So it could draw on random Marvel stuff every episode.
Well, from that point i can say that Thanos in first Avengers post credit scene is a different character and not the same in Infinity War and Endgame.....
John Vernon also voiced Rupert Thorne on Batman The Animated Series.
How did bro forget that Iron Man was also in Fantastic Four like multiple times
16:00 Unlimited started production as an adaptation of the 1960s Spider-Man comics specifically the Dikto issues but due to Marvel's bankruptcy causing them to sell off movie rights, Saban lost the rights to everything except for the Spider-Man character albeit they could not use the classic costume and would have had to pay money to use the other characters so they only paid for Venom and Carnage and retooled everything to use the three characters to save on money. It then got retooled into a Spider-Man 2099 series before that idea got scrapped. So yeah lots of factors that were not Batman Beyond related
One of the best universes ever
I was born in 1996. I don't remember the UPN Kids block but I do remember Kids WB also static shock which for some reason you did not mention takes place in the DCAU alongside Batman Beyond and Batman animated series Justice League Superman The Animated Series
oh my gosh someone who admits that there was no such thing as the marvel animated universe in the 90s!
These cartoons had nothing to do with multiverses the way you describe
I’m just grateful I got to experience reruns even though they were incredibly out of order and randomly connected
AKtuaLly DC’s main universe exists as Earth 0 or Earth Prime. Earth One is a universe of books that include the label “Earth One”in the title that typically consist of stories involving each of the main heroes just starting out in their careers.
This is a great video. Thank you for your sacrifice.
I'd love to see the Hulk again but I know they have to change the voice actor if they do still be pretty cool
I love the Exiles
8:14 HAAAA! 😂
My first experience with multiversal shenanigans was Zelda: A Link to the Past (parallel worlds) followed by reruns of Star Trek T.O.S. (Mirror universe), so when I started seeing it in cartoons and movies, I was somewhat prepared.
More of a Spider-Man guy, myself.
I like the ultraman seven shirt your wearing. I recognise that character when I was a toddler.
Honestly i figured X-Men, Spider-Man, Iron Man, Fantastic Four and Hulk were part of the MAU=Marvel animated universe
First off, you don't elaborate beyond different voice actors and different outfits. To quote Js Reviews, "art style changes and voice actor changes aren't cannon, as far as the characters know, they always sounded like this". Dr Doom had 3 different voice actors in the Fantastic Four show alone, and I don't hear you calling him an anomaly from a different universe. As for the different costumes on the Fantastic Four in Spider-Man, so? Maybe they got different outfits? That's not outside the realm of possibility in these shows. The only thing you could point to is the different personalities and behavior of some of the side characters like Scarlet Witch and Daredevil. And even then they aren't that much different from their main show counterparts. So what if Daredevil is a little more jokey in Fantastic Four than he is in Spider-Man. By the way, the Silver Surfer show, much like Spider-Man Unlimited and Avengers United They Stand, isn't cannon to the 90s Marvel animated universe. So it really shouldn't count.
It's not as solid a continuity as DC because there were different creative forces behind each show and the cross overs weren't that thought out but they are almost all set in the same universe.
I remember upn I hated when I moved to a small town in Illinois,they didn’t have upn until later 2001
Shocker is a sound based character, The Symbiotes are weak to sonic attacks
What about Silver Surfer in the King of the Hill promo?!? Where does that leave the multiverse????
That was just a promo, not meant to be taken seriously.
@@milesbradshaw6643 Twas a joke, good sir.
It's been a while since I looked into this, but I remember The Nick Fury character in Iron Man wasn't Nick Fury by name but his story was .
The weirdest cameo crossover the frightful 4 having Hydroman as a member in FF. As Marvel animation/studios couldn't use Sandman or Electro. due to the James Cameron spiderman film.
Scarlett Spider appears for a second the FF cartoon.
Tell that to the 2010's animated universe!
Why did thay make spiderman unlimited instead of just spiderman 2099
0:31 I loved the Exiles comics. It was the first series I ever read from start to finish ^^
My head hurts now.
Somewhere, Tommy Westphall just had a stroke.
Rocking that Ultra Seven shirt 😆💯🔥