I'm FBO on 93 and methanol injection with upgraded turbo and a relatively safe tune. Put down 402whp/436rwtq on the dyno and I was pretty surprised with those numbers. Took 26psi to get there, but the car stayed reliable. I'm now in the process of building the block to handle more power and torque. Great information in this video. The tuning aspect is the most important factor in my opinion
But the open intake one is wrong. Theres another chanel that has a ecoboost and a dyno and they test 3 open intakes and one closed 2 made less power 1 was normal but the closed off one made more then base.
My brother took his ecoboost to National Speed in Richmond VA and had the Stage 3 package installed. He already had charge pipes and some aftermarket exhuast but with everything said and done he made 351whp/422rwtq FBO and 93 tuned. Airraid intake tube with stock airbox and drop in filter, ETS big intercooler with charge pipes, TurbosmartBOV, IGW75 wastegate with 10lb spring, NGK colder spark plugs, JLT catchcan, Stainless works hi flow catted downpipe, ACCELETAC catback, and custom dyno tune on 93. Also new low pressure fuel sensor and EVAP purge valve. Stock turbo. Hes pulled on multiple 392 Scatpacks and 6th gen camaros
All you need is a cvf intercooler , drop in filter and a e30 tune from PD or tuneplus. With that you’ll run 8.0 maybe 7.9s at the 1/8. Intake downpipe etc aren’t worth it on stock turbo.
Good vid. FBO (larger intercooler, pipes, high flow catted downpipe with cat back -all 3"-, sealed air box,) and a 93 stage 3/pro tune will get you around 350 wheel. im missing the downpipe and airbox to really open up my air flow but i make around 310 on an OTS tune with a trans tune added. once I fix the air flow restrictions and get a pro tune on e30 it will get closer to 375 wheel. Going to probably redo the fuel pump to high pressure for e85 and try for close to 400. Agree with the intercooler advice at 11:00. I put a big all metal block on and its bee great vs the stock one with plastic inlet/outlet. My inlet temps, even after some spirited driving, are like 5-8 degrees over ambient. i havent brought it to the strip yet but im sure that would really bring the temps up with all the hard pulls + sitting around with no fresh air hitting the IC.
I have the JB4 and just as you said an entry level unit/tune but does make a pretty big difference over stock. I did upgrade my intercooler to a CV Fab street intercooler for safety sake and peace of mind.
@@8020MediaFun ride and in a short race feel I could run with a stock GT, 1/8th mile or less and from a dig of course. I came from a 2021 California Special so I know how they perform which is strong for factory. Been told I was crazy for trading in my Cali for an Ecoboost but I needed better mileage that the 5.0 just couldn't give.
What is not being considering is that the engine block design changed on the 2.3L in 2020. Fixing the typical Head Gasket Failure and other blowing up issues as noted by others. I'm running a Jb4 Piggyback. Mode 88 fixed a bunch of issues on my 2021 Stang with Jb4. Pushing 22ish PSI.
@@8020Media a month went by and I did a muffler delete currently. Jb4 with sport mode / track mode / map 2 / e85 1/4 tank mix with 93. hits 24.2 psi. I try not to look to suspect and keeping most of the exterior stock. Funny thing, the exhaust sounds like a plane crashing out of the sky when you give it full power, like on cartoons. Totally fun.
I have a 21 Ecoboost premium with the performance pack, do you recommend modding it? It's already 330 HP 350 Torque stock... I love everything about it. It even has Magna Ride. I just want to play with it a little.
350 is too east just hit it with the cobb tune roush air intake performance spark plugs from ngk engine crank case from upr that did it for me and you get rid of that nasty 120 speed limiter but if you want more bolt on bow id go with a exhaust or the ford performance throttle body and if you dont mind messing with you computer get a down pipe and intercooler
JB4 give you most of wait you need. If you want to step in to E30 /or meth you just hit a button and add some values. You don't have to go get on a dyno and dial it in. It wont get you 400whp. but, around 350 with a turboback exhaust, intercooler, and intake filter is possible. I have 2022 Ranger Tremor with an afe rapid cold induction intake, JB4, on E30. A 3 MBRP catback right now with the Go Fast bits Recirc valve for the turbo response. It has to be north of 320. Once CVF releases their 2022 downpipe, i'll drop that and their intercooler into it. Hopefully gets me in the 340-50whp range. For me it is the torque and responsiveness that matters most. I am not pushing much over 100mph. I just cruise around looking for Ricers and full size truck fanboys. The Truck nuts see the little Ranger that could, That is until I get up on it and blow away their $80K coyote/3.5 ecobust powered fatboxes. The power to weight is great for the 2.3l EB when modded. Plus It can go more places on less fuel, tow about as much as most people will ever need, and fit in to just about any parking spot. All that under 40K loaded with offroad capabilities and awesome suspension.
M - Not too much knowledge on drifting ecoboost mustangs, but here's a thread that may help: www.mustang6g.com/forums/threads/street-style-ecoboost-drift-build.87775/
A lot of companies have stopped selling them directly online due to concerns with the EPA. Still can find some out there but selection is definitely a bit more limited and you're not going to find them being sold by any of the big brands or big resellers.
Klein - There are many different intakes out there. It's hard to recommend one without knowing your vehicle goals. Brands we like are Livernois, Roush, CV Fab.
C - Its more of a matter of how reliable it is after that.. We make these videos for people to get to these levels reliably, not to blow their engines.
@@8020Media because by the time you dump money into an ecoboost you could have just bought a 5.0. And it’s an ecoboost sounds like ass it will never be a 5.0. Leave it alone it’s a commuter car with a pony car shell. Plus ford has an issue with ecoboost turbo they are built like ass. We have a bunch of ecoboosts in our truck fleet and compared to the 5.0 trucks which by the way are cheaper. The 5.0 last longer and can pull more weight for long periods of time. The 5.0 is a better motor with less external parts to break. My point is buying an already overpriced ecoboost then putting more money into it to make stock gen 1 coyote numbers, while also reducing the reliability just doesn’t make any sense money wise. As far as doing it because you want to be different then go ahead I respect it. It’s lighter and probably would make a better corner car. But if you want overall performance from a mustang in the same price range. It would be a much better option to go 5.0. Then again just my opinion people like what they like I respect it, I just personally wouldn’t ever put money into an ecoboost or buy one.
And yes it’s lighter, quieter, and good on gas. Which makes my point it’s a commuter car to get you a-b ford made it like that for a reason. People made the 3.7 v6 fast back in the day which was cool but a 3.7 was a lot cheaper too. I look at these ecoboosts for sale and they are in 2nd gen coyote range for prices. It’s not really cheaper after you mod to try and keep up with a coyote. Better gas mileage i don’t see as a valid point. The 5.0 gets really good gas mileage for the power and it’s really not that much less mpg. It’s quieter I get that, yes it is but people put exhausts on them when they’re trying to make power so that’s now out the window. It’s good at what it was made for. A-B commuting. It’s not a race car nor should it be. If you want v8 power buy a v8. But again that’s money wise and my opinion. If you’re trying to stand out and have a quick 4 cylinder mustang just because you can and it makes you smile. Go ahead 350 hp is 350hp it’s a decently fun power range. I get the appeal it just doesn’t make sense to me personally.
You can push these ecoboost to 1080hp lol there was a couple guys that did it, same with 800hp and keeping the stock motor, you can spend 12,000$ and get up to that much power
Yeah it's pretty amazing these days because the new technology we have now and what these cars can push way beyond the limits, The guy races his ecoboost mustang on track that pushes 1080, same with the 800hp too!
Greg - Some people may not be able to afford the 5.0. Plus the ecoboost does have some benefits of it’s own that the 5.0 doesn’t. Better gas mileage, cheaper, and it’s quieter.
I'm FBO on 93 and methanol injection with upgraded turbo and a relatively safe tune. Put down 402whp/436rwtq on the dyno and I was pretty surprised with those numbers.
Took 26psi to get there, but the car stayed reliable. I'm now in the process of building the block to handle more power and torque. Great information in this video. The tuning aspect is the most important factor in my opinion
Wild - Thanks for sharing your experience! Sounds like you have a solid build over there.
What was maintenance looking like for you?
@@akira6645second this.
26 psi? You’re making 100HP per cylinder. It’s gunna blow up dude
thumbs up for answering the questions in the order they arrived in my head
David - Glad we could help! Thanks for the feedback.
But the open intake one is wrong. Theres another chanel that has a ecoboost and a dyno and they test 3 open intakes and one closed 2 made less power 1 was normal but the closed off one made more then base.
My brother took his ecoboost to National Speed in Richmond VA and had the Stage 3 package installed. He already had charge pipes and some aftermarket exhuast but with everything said and done he made 351whp/422rwtq FBO and 93 tuned. Airraid intake tube with stock airbox and drop in filter, ETS big intercooler with charge pipes, TurbosmartBOV, IGW75 wastegate with 10lb spring, NGK colder spark plugs, JLT catchcan, Stainless works hi flow catted downpipe, ACCELETAC catback, and custom dyno tune on 93. Also new low pressure fuel sensor and EVAP purge valve. Stock turbo. Hes pulled on multiple 392 Scatpacks and 6th gen camaros
Sneaky - Love hearing this! Sounds like he's got quite the impressive build. Thanks for sharing.
Doesnt the Focus RS make those numbers stock? Is it not the same engine?
@@dallasbagleythe RS is tuned differently and has a bigger turbo
I read another comment the other day saying I don’t need the BOV and instead just get the c&l bypass valve. You think I need both?
All you need is a cvf intercooler , drop in filter and a e30 tune from PD or tuneplus. With that you’ll run 8.0 maybe 7.9s at the 1/8. Intake downpipe etc aren’t worth it on stock turbo.
Luis - Thanks for sharing your insight. Although they may not be needed, it makes the engine/turbo run more efficiently, which is why we suggest them.
But it does make it sound better 🤷♂
@@connorhutton9526yes it very much gives the 4cyl a deeper tone
0-60?
@@quantum1320 idk but you can hit 7.9 at the 1/8th . 8.0 forsure
Good vid. FBO (larger intercooler, pipes, high flow catted downpipe with cat back -all 3"-, sealed air box,) and a 93 stage 3/pro tune will get you around 350 wheel. im missing the downpipe and airbox to really open up my air flow but i make around 310 on an OTS tune with a trans tune added. once I fix the air flow restrictions and get a pro tune on e30 it will get closer to 375 wheel.
Going to probably redo the fuel pump to high pressure for e85 and try for close to 400.
Agree with the intercooler advice at 11:00. I put a big all metal block on and its bee great vs the stock one with plastic inlet/outlet. My inlet temps, even after some spirited driving, are like 5-8 degrees over ambient. i havent brought it to the strip yet but im sure that would really bring the temps up with all the hard pulls + sitting around with no fresh air hitting the IC.
Chris - Sounds like you've got an impressive build! Thanks for sharing your experience.
Appreciate the summary. Downpipe and intercooler would be my first spend.
S - Thanks for the feedback! We hope it helps.
I have the JB4 and just as you said an entry level unit/tune but does make a pretty big difference over stock. I did upgrade my intercooler to a CV Fab street intercooler for safety sake and peace of mind.
MRAMX - The intercooler is a great add! Sounds like a good rig.
@@8020MediaFun ride and in a short race feel I could run with a stock GT, 1/8th mile or less and from a dig of course. I came from a 2021 California Special so I know how they perform which is strong for factory. Been told I was crazy for trading in my Cali for an Ecoboost but I needed better mileage that the 5.0 just couldn't give.
For sure. Thanks for sharing your experience!
What is not being considering is that the engine block design changed on the 2.3L in 2020. Fixing the typical Head Gasket Failure and other blowing up issues as noted by others. I'm running a Jb4 Piggyback. Mode 88 fixed a bunch of issues on my 2021 Stang with Jb4. Pushing 22ish PSI.
Tfourk - Correct. Nice! What other supporting mods do you have on it?
I'm about 350 HP on E30. It's a fun little car.
Thanks for sharing your experience!
Do a ring head to solve the problem, then meth injection to keep cooler, no intercooler neddet
@@8020Media a month went by and I did a muffler delete currently. Jb4 with sport mode / track mode / map 2 / e85 1/4 tank mix with 93. hits 24.2 psi. I try not to look to suspect and keeping most of the exterior stock. Funny thing, the exhaust sounds like a plane crashing out of the sky when you give it full power, like on cartoons. Totally fun.
Better get a step colder spark plugs if you're doing all the mods in this video. It was the last mod I did and it helped quite a bit
Kyle - Couldn't agree more! Great recommendation.
I have a 21 Ecoboost premium with the performance pack, do you recommend modding it? It's already 330 HP 350 Torque stock... I love everything about it. It even has Magna Ride. I just want to play with it a little.
B - That all depends on what you want. Hard for us to recommend it. We've modded all our cars because we enjoy it.
Nx2 e30 waste gate street intercooler downpipe 430 wheel protune 1 step colder plugs also
Sosa - Sounds like you’ve got quite the ride!
Great video and very informative
Ryan - Thanks for the feedback!
350 is too east just hit it with the cobb tune roush air intake performance spark plugs from ngk engine crank case from upr that did it for me and you get rid of that nasty 120 speed limiter but if you want more bolt on bow id go with a exhaust or the ford performance throttle body and if you dont mind messing with you computer get a down pipe and intercooler
Derrick - Thanks for sharing your experience. Our goal with these videos is to reliably get to these power levels.
JB4 give you most of wait you need. If you want to step in to E30 /or meth you just hit a button and add some values. You don't have to go get on a dyno and dial it in. It wont get you 400whp. but, around 350 with a turboback exhaust, intercooler, and intake filter is possible. I have 2022 Ranger Tremor with an afe rapid cold induction intake, JB4, on E30. A 3 MBRP catback right now with the Go Fast bits Recirc valve for the turbo response. It has to be north of 320. Once CVF releases their 2022 downpipe, i'll drop that and their intercooler into it. Hopefully gets me in the 340-50whp range. For me it is the torque and responsiveness that matters most. I am not pushing much over 100mph. I just cruise around looking for Ricers and full size truck fanboys. The Truck nuts see the little Ranger that could, That is until I get up on it and blow away their $80K coyote/3.5 ecobust powered fatboxes. The power to weight is great for the 2.3l EB when modded. Plus It can go more places on less fuel, tow about as much as most people will ever need, and fit in to just about any parking spot. All that under 40K loaded with offroad capabilities and awesome suspension.
D - Thanks for sharing your experience! Sounds like you've got quite the build.
Any knowledge on drifting this engine ? Seems like a good drifting platform with how cheap some eco boost mustangs are becoming
M - Not too much knowledge on drifting ecoboost mustangs, but here's a thread that may help: www.mustang6g.com/forums/threads/street-style-ecoboost-drift-build.87775/
Does the active exhaust ford offers count as a downpipe or is that totally different?
Fork - It is completely different. The downpipe connects the turbo to the rest of the exhaust system. The Active Exhaust mainly just adjusts sound.
What do you think a safe torque range is for the 2.3 xlt explorer?
Sanity - What all do you have done to it so far? and what are you needing a lot of torque for?
Thank You.
1955 - Hope you found it helpful!
i dont think they even still sell catless dps for the ecos
A lot of companies have stopped selling them directly online due to concerns with the EPA. Still can find some out there but selection is definitely a bit more limited and you're not going to find them being sold by any of the big brands or big resellers.
get one custom made from a shop
Why not start with the basics ,, head porting? After the 2020 fix to the block/head gasket aren't there large numbers of heads available?
Brian - This is something that can be done. These mods are just what we like to do first.
Elaborate, please. I have a 2020 and pretty much got every mod mentioned on the list(waiting to put on my downpipe)
Head porting isn't necessary unless you're 500+ HP.
What intake would you recommend for my 2019 mustang eco boost ?🤔
Klein - There are many different intakes out there. It's hard to recommend one without knowing your vehicle goals. Brands we like are Livernois, Roush, CV Fab.
Can easily get 400hp with just a catless down pipe,cold air intake,cat back exhaust and 93 tune
C - Its more of a matter of how reliable it is after that.. We make these videos for people to get to these levels reliably, not to blow their engines.
@@8020Media won't blow it with only a 100 HP bro 😭it's all about the tune tho
C - We would like to not be liable for damaging people's property. Therefore, we stay on the safe side. Don't know how else to say this.
im pissed the new eco has no manual
Rollin - Couldn’t agree more! That’s unfortunately what everything is moving to.
Good thing you have the best of both worlds, paddle shifters. It's a perfect compromise
@@FunkyBananaBear lol im sorry
but your not a real enthusiast.
pay 40k for a sports car that you don't even use as such
no.
The answer: don’t leave that thing alone
Not sure what you're getting at here.
@@8020Media don’t build it leave it alone
Got it, and why do you say that
@@8020Media because by the time you dump money into an ecoboost you could have just bought a 5.0. And it’s an ecoboost sounds like ass it will never be a 5.0. Leave it alone it’s a commuter car with a pony car shell. Plus ford has an issue with ecoboost turbo they are built like ass. We have a bunch of ecoboosts in our truck fleet and compared to the 5.0 trucks which by the way are cheaper. The 5.0 last longer and can pull more weight for long periods of time. The 5.0 is a better motor with less external parts to break. My point is buying an already overpriced ecoboost then putting more money into it to make stock gen 1 coyote numbers, while also reducing the reliability just doesn’t make any sense money wise. As far as doing it because you want to be different then go ahead I respect it. It’s lighter and probably would make a better corner car. But if you want overall performance from a mustang in the same price range. It would be a much better option to go 5.0. Then again just my opinion people like what they like I respect it, I just personally wouldn’t ever put money into an ecoboost or buy one.
And yes it’s lighter, quieter, and good on gas. Which makes my point it’s a commuter car to get you a-b ford made it like that for a reason. People made the 3.7 v6 fast back in the day which was cool but a 3.7 was a lot cheaper too. I look at these ecoboosts for sale and they are in 2nd gen coyote range for prices. It’s not really cheaper after you mod to try and keep up with a coyote. Better gas mileage i don’t see as a valid point. The 5.0 gets really good gas mileage for the power and it’s really not that much less mpg. It’s quieter I get that, yes it is but people put exhausts on them when they’re trying to make power so that’s now out the window. It’s good at what it was made for. A-B commuting. It’s not a race car nor should it be. If you want v8 power buy a v8. But again that’s money wise and my opinion. If you’re trying to stand out and have a quick 4 cylinder mustang just because you can and it makes you smile. Go ahead 350 hp is 350hp it’s a decently fun power range. I get the appeal it just doesn’t make sense to me personally.
You can push these ecoboost to 1080hp lol there was a couple guys that did it, same with 800hp and keeping the stock motor, you can spend 12,000$ and get up to that much power
C - Pretty impressive. Thanks for sharing this insight!
Yeah it's pretty amazing these days because the new technology we have now and what these cars can push way beyond the limits, The guy races his ecoboost mustang on track that pushes 1080, same with the 800hp too!
Do not mod this engine. If you want to mod a Mustang, go with the 5.0. Also, do it after warranty expires. Have fun!
J - These things can be awesome modded. But yes, we agree after warranty expires.
Now when you say 420 hp 450 t is that to the wheel
Cliff - Crank.
How can I run E85?
Shadow - We discuss this in depth in the video at 08:30.
Of you want the power of the v8, get the v8
Greg - Some people may not be able to afford the 5.0. Plus the ecoboost does have some benefits of it’s own that the 5.0 doesn’t. Better gas mileage, cheaper, and it’s quieter.
@8020Media mods change insurance though?
Depends.
My ecoboost gaps V8s
This is about $10k cheaper, WITH these mods...