I'm a subscriber...Nathan everytime I see one of your videos pop up. At the end of each video I'm hoping my BMW's aren't suffering from the same issues. And after checking my cars...sure enough..same problems. You've been a great help. Thanks
You pay your bills making videos about fixing cars. The more work you have to do on the car, the more videos/$ you make. What better car is there to guarantee an endless supply of videos than an E60 M5?!
Even with arp, I would do a 25 and then a 50 to make sure one end isn't pulled hard in first shot to 50. It doesn't harm to do in 2 steps.its about the stretch achieved. But doing in steps will reduce the skew.
A lot of people say it's not good to loosen bolts with a torque wrench... But if that's the case, then why is there a reversing option on them. What the case really is, you are just putting extra wear on it really
@@paulkile9998 that is what I was thinking left hand threads I have a separate old torque wrench use to remove stubborn bolts, as most of those wrenches are longer and fatter gives better grip
@@paulkile9998 right, which is no different than loosening a bolt, which validates my point, that it's not wrong put reverse stress on a torque wrench... Unless the bolt originally torqued with a different and bigger torque wrench
@@jeremypetix4493 ARP's metallurgy and manufacturing process. OE quality rod bolts use "softer" metals and will stretch, hence a torque, plus x degrees in high stress applications e.g. suspension and engine rotating assemblies. The ARP bolts are stronger because of the manufacturing processes higher tensile strength metal due tighter granularity, carbides, chromium content etc. costs more to produce. There is way more to it than that but that is the basics. That'll be $400 so I can get my ARP rod bolts. ;)
It's interesting as normally when you replace rod bolts you would have to check the rod for "roundness" and maybe some might need resize. Bit of a gamble like this.
I love how bmw can just walk away when they fuck up, this job should’ve been a recall, instead bmw looked at it they realized that they should’ve used better bearings, and then they decided it’s a maintenance item now let the customer deal with it LOL.
Hey Nathan, Im a big fan of your channel and your vids on the rod bearings actually inspired me to buy a 2008 LCI - Im planning on doing the rod bearings myself but couldn't yet figure out how to measure the clearances since the engine is still in the car and wont be removed. Did you just put the STD size rod bearings on it ? Awesome stuff !
I have a question nathan. Where did you get the ARP bolts from. You said they were $400 but you didn't say where you got them from. Help me with this please. Thanks alot man
Thanks for the video!!! I was looking at a BMW 2021 BMW M5 Competition but I am rethinking that purchase now...lol....What do you think have they gotten better and have they upgraded and fixed this issue.? Thanks for the video again. You got a new sub!
Dont even think about it, buying that car is like picking up chicks at walmart , looks good in the store but when you get her home and she takes her glass eye out and teeth out look out lol
@Nathan Nice work man! Question on E36 328I sedan w/ auto trans, can you recommend a quality replacement radiator other than a factory made one that won't break the bank? . prefer to purchase on amazon. Thanks in advance
Hey Nathan, I’m looking into buying a e39(530i) 2003 for 5k and It has 115k. I’m 18 and know only a few things about working on cars. That being the case i am going to school to be a mechanic. Would you recommend I get this car? I live in Dallas btw
I recommend you to get an E90 non turbo for you first BMW, very easy to work on once you get a hang of bit, just don't think is exactly like american cars, is different , if you get an 5 series with a v8 for your first BMW you are going to regret it , if is six in line then yes
whatever you do don't get a turbo anything! As for e39, if the car spent it's whole life in Dallas rust won't be an issue. If it spent it's life in NJ where I live just walk. As for the 530 the cooling system must be changed , if it doesn't have receipts for that repair, walk. Don't get an e60. Trust me I have one and they are money pits and the e60 is a low point in quality. Also you'll need a transmission service. Altogether if you don't have 7k walk. You will need atleast 2500 in immediate funds to have a 17 year old BMW in good enough shape so you can call it reliable
fernando sandoval I love the Bmw 550i with these cars you must fine you a real mechanic that can fine the problem if there’s one not just throw parts at it or money away and you must keep a scanner with the bmws
@@NathansBMWWorkshop yeah that is the retail price for those any ware, but why did you decide to go for the most expensive ones is what I am wondering?
I love how people saying e60 It’s best bmw Ever made a 95% of them never own one I used to own 2007 m5 manual transmission For 2 years Every time you take for ride you hope nothing breaks E 60 is nothing but a headache
H.P. VANOS pump could be worth $500+. Heads Only $200 each because they do not fail. Crank...add $200+. Coils? $100 all (Cheap). Wiring? Headers? ECU/DCM's and a car! ONLY for persons with skill, but you can do.
I'm a subscriber...Nathan everytime I see one of your videos pop up. At the end of each video I'm hoping my BMW's aren't suffering from the same issues. And after checking my cars...sure enough..same problems. You've been a great help. Thanks
Congrats Nathan on getting it done! Cant wait to see it run again.
Finally. Can't wait to hear it run.
Great video Nathan.
You pay your bills making videos about fixing cars. The more work you have to do on the car, the more videos/$ you make. What better car is there to guarantee an endless supply of videos than an E60 M5?!
lol well it kinda works that way
The rod bearing bolts have a 3 stage torque setting, did you do this ?
Olesya&Barrie Gunn That’s for oe BMW bolts but Nathan is using aftermarket ARP bolts that you can torque to 50 and forget.
Even with arp, I would do a 25 and then a 50 to make sure one end isn't pulled hard in first shot to 50. It doesn't harm to do in 2 steps.its about the stretch achieved. But doing in steps will reduce the skew.
Which make of bearings did you replace with? Sorry if I missed it.
Great job! Im Interested in seeing the vanos job now
I will NEVER complain about pulling the intake off my E46. LOL.
No you should
I can pull a e46 intake in my sleep lol
@@NathansBMWWorkshop Dean is still cussing you! LOL
lp2565 I still make fun of him about that
We told you lol, so is it okay to use your torque to loosen the bolts and as a torque wrench do it mess up the wrench
not when its only 50lbs and when its turned to zero
A lot of people say it's not good to loosen bolts with a torque wrench...
But if that's the case, then why is there a reversing option on them. What the case really is, you are just putting extra wear on it really
@@ryanmckenna5254 the reversing lever on the torque wrench is so you can torque bolts with left-hand threads
@@paulkile9998 that is what I was thinking left hand threads I have a separate old torque wrench use to remove stubborn bolts, as most of those wrenches are longer and fatter gives better grip
@@paulkile9998 right, which is no different than loosening a bolt, which validates my point, that it's not wrong put reverse stress on a torque wrench...
Unless the bolt originally torqued with a different and bigger torque wrench
Hey Nathan, do u think it’s doable to change rod bearings on the M5 using jack stands? Obviously it be will as high as I can go..
It’s possible it just wouldn’t be any fun
Lesson learned: its better to spend $400 than have a $10K headache when the S85 throws a rod.
Plus $400 tools are cool, the headache after wrecking a $10k engine isnt
sgreenfield4 can someone explain to me why bolts cost $400?
Captive market, convenience and dependability in a system critical role
@@jeremypetix4493 ARP's metallurgy and manufacturing process. OE quality rod bolts use "softer" metals and will stretch, hence a torque, plus x degrees in high stress applications e.g. suspension and engine rotating assemblies. The ARP bolts are stronger because of the manufacturing processes higher tensile strength metal due tighter granularity, carbides, chromium content etc. costs more to produce. There is way more to it than that but that is the basics. That'll be $400 so I can get my ARP rod bolts. ;)
It's interesting as normally when you replace rod bolts you would have to check the rod for "roundness" and maybe some might need resize. Bit of a gamble like this.
I love how bmw can just walk away when they fuck up, this job should’ve been a recall, instead bmw looked at it they realized that they should’ve used better bearings, and then they decided it’s a maintenance item now let the customer deal with it LOL.
$400 for peace of mind, good value. Keep safe and thanks again.
Hey Nathan, Im a big fan of your channel and your vids on the rod bearings actually inspired me to buy a 2008 LCI - Im planning on doing the rod bearings myself but couldn't yet figure out how to measure the clearances since the engine is still in the car and wont be removed. Did you just put the STD size rod bearings on it ?
Awesome stuff !
why not coated bearings?
I have a question nathan. Where did you get the ARP bolts from. You said they were $400 but you didn't say where you got them from. Help me with this please. Thanks alot man
Try summit racing arp the best bolts under extreme pressure I use them for my race motor
@@GeneG-wk2mz thanks man
ECS, had to constantly stay on them to ship them, they did after 2 days
Thanks for the video!!! I was looking at a BMW 2021 BMW M5 Competition but I am rethinking that purchase now...lol....What do you think have they gotten better and have they upgraded and fixed this issue.? Thanks for the video again. You got a new sub!
In my best southern drawl " ya ain't buildin a pianaw"
We need some videos about N63. We need it on this channel because E60 V10 >>>>>>>>>N63 engine’s . Next project N63????
Excellent video Nathan 👍
Would have been nice to see the crank bearing surfaces... is there any scoring or markings on the crank?
Is impossible to have marking when the cooper is way more soft than the crank.
He said in the video that the crank was in perfect condition including the journals.
?any possiblity to measure how low were those brgs? .008? .010?
Low enough to see the brass lol
How many miles on those particular rod bearings?
102k
I have a morbid curiosity about the $4000 M5, but just to see how effed up it is. Maybe break even as a parts car if you’re lucky.
Dont even think about it, buying that car is like picking up chicks at walmart , looks good in the store but when you get her home and she takes her glass eye out and teeth out look out lol
@Nathan Nice work man!
Question on E36 328I sedan w/ auto trans, can you recommend a quality replacement radiator other than a factory made one that won't break the bank? .
prefer to purchase on amazon.
Thanks in advance
Hey Nathan, I’m looking into buying a e39(530i) 2003 for 5k and It has 115k. I’m 18 and know only a few things about working on cars. That being the case i am going to school to be a mechanic. Would you recommend I get this car? I live in Dallas btw
Lavelle if you can turn a wrench you can work on it !
E39 is a great car with alot of knowledge about it in the internet. Its also surprisingly easy to fix. E60 is an electrical nightmare
I recommend you to get an E90 non turbo for you first BMW, very easy to work on once you get a hang of bit, just don't think is exactly like american cars, is different , if you get an 5 series with a v8 for your first BMW you are going to regret it , if is six in line then yes
whatever you do don't get a turbo anything! As for e39, if the car spent it's whole life in Dallas rust won't be an issue. If it spent it's life in NJ where I live just walk. As for the 530 the cooling system must be changed , if it doesn't have receipts for that repair, walk. Don't get an e60. Trust me I have one and they are money pits and the e60 is a low point in quality. Also you'll need a transmission service. Altogether if you don't have 7k walk. You will need atleast 2500 in immediate funds to have a 17 year old BMW in good enough shape so you can call it reliable
fernando sandoval I love the Bmw 550i with these cars you must fine you a real mechanic that can fine the problem if there’s one not just throw parts at it or money away and you must keep a scanner with the bmws
Did you use your “ free” bolt lube? Lol!
Proof is in the pudding ! LOL Run It.
They mainly look like they have galling on them nathan
I mean some were down to brass they for sure were done
is $ 11.20 dollars each if you buy them independently on ECS tunning so $176 for 16 bolts Genuine BMW
@@hansbrix2495 sure 4 more total $220
These were from ECS they are $20 a bolt
@@NathansBMWWorkshop yeah that is the retail price for those any ware, but why did you decide to go for the most expensive ones is what I am wondering?
E60 M5: Its fun to floor it until you come to repairs.
the top always is going to be worse its take most of the load!
$1000 for headt studs on a m156 AMG engine. Now that is robbery
I love how people saying e60
It’s best bmw Ever made a 95% of them never own one I used to own 2007 m5 manual transmission For 2 years Every time you take for ride you hope nothing breaks E 60 is nothing but a headache
I watch and enjoy your videos, but most of this video is a recording of the bottom of the engine and you tourqueing bolts. A little boring.
7/16th in a BMW? Huh.
is 11 mm
I see what he did. Patreon hint hint
at $5k for an M5....part it!
H.P. VANOS pump could be worth $500+. Heads Only $200 each because they do not fail. Crank...add $200+. Coils? $100 all (Cheap). Wiring? Headers? ECU/DCM's
and a car!
ONLY for persons with skill, but you can do.
PS: I would be interested in rear sub-frame complete with LSD and pay.