Check for a sharp edge on the bottom of the chamber. I used some 220 sandpaper and sanded the bottom edge of the chamber, where a feed ramp would be. It took about ten minutes and my Butler creek magazines work great now.
Hahaha, those 50gr game-shok rounds seem to work in everything! To be honest, it's already enough using a firearm that is notoriously ammo sensitive...add to that a magazine that's also picky! I'll have to get a CZ 512 American, as it seems to be immune to a lot of the issues facing other semiautomatic 22 magnums.
I have been concentrating on using Hornady 45 grain FTX and have been impressed with the bullseye accuracy at 50 yards, ( my range doesn't have 100 yds. yet). I am not impressed with the Butler Creek 25 round mags. I bought four and regret it. Wish I had bought the 10 round mags instead. The 25 round mag wants to load them skyward every time. Wish we could send them back to exchange.
BTW, I did decide to take out the 4 screws on the BUTLER CREEK 25 round mag per the instructions and split the case easily. The coil spring stays in one side( the one with the red thumb loading assist). Taking it apart served no purpose cause the problem was plastic on plastic and we are talking dimpled plastic, not smooth. If that thumb assist slide against smooth plastic, it wouldn't be so bad. While I had it apart, I did put a few drops of gun oils on both sides. With a dropper or plastic oil bottle with the metal straw will do the same with it completely assembled. Now they slide great! Maybe if someone sands down the strip of plastic where the thumb loading assist slides, it may improve some, maybe not. Do not be afraid to remove the 4 screws and open the case. Nothing falls apart.
I tried my A22 Butler Creek magazine out for the first time the other day. I had several jamming issues. Was not able to get through more than 7-10 shots without a jam. Although it was around -15 degrees outside. Hoping that it isn't going to be an issue in milder weather.
@@MichaelBellmbell556 thanks for the answer, you were right about the cleaning. My friend ran his bore snake through which made things much better. It was around -10 when I was shooting. Probably only had 5 jams out of 150+ rounds. Im an amateur shooter and now realize I definitely have to buy a bore snake and cleaning kit.
I live in Ga. so I don't have to worry about minus degree temps. I use the same magazines in my Savage B22 mag FV-SR. I haven't had an issue with these magazines at all. I use CCI 30gr and 40gr hollow points. Both cycle with no issues.
Honestly, not yet. I have three Ruger BX 25 mags and this Butler Creek. Of all them, only one of Ruger mags work, and it works great. None of the others do. I don't know why. I couldn't get the Butler Creek to feed at all. I got tired of it quickly and switched to another gun that day at the range. Guess I should test it with other ammo too. Thanks.
Thanks for the video! I was looking for a pcc, but there aren't many available these days ... so it was this, the Savage A17, or the Rossi RS22M ... I ended up getting the Rossi. It only has 10 round magazines and no iron sights. It does have a built-in last shot hold open though, and the price is great (I paid $220). Reliability has been 100% so far with every kind of 22WMR I've thrown at it ... I would love the Savage, but if these 25 round magazines don't work anyway, it wouldn't have much of an advantage ...
Hi Ralph,, you still shooten that Rossi after 2 yrs?? How's it holding up??picked me one up the other day and would like more than a 10rd mag, can't find anything ,, does anybody make anything larger ???thanks,,
@@messenger325 Unfortunately nobody has ever made large capacity magazines ... sooooooo I custom-fabricated my own mag coupler to have two magazines at the ready. ... not as good, but better than nothing 😅 I love the piece itself ... still reliable and accurate ... the trigger isn't great, but it works well enough for rabbit hunting.
@@ralphwiggam7630 thanks Ralph thats what i figured when i was having such a hard time finding anything,, thinking about contacting taurus see if they have any ideas , an why they don't make a larger one..👍
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Mbell556, I have a question for you. If you were going to build a 12.5 inch 556.. and going to shoot it suppressed, would you use a superlative arms piston with a bleed of function or a DI with a superlative arms adjustable gas block?
I have 4 of the Bc mags. They worked great for the first 1500-2000 rounds. Now the spring is so weak it won’t even feed a round unless I run the action manually. These mags turned a semi auto into a bolt action essentially. I was shooting cci 40gr.
That A22 system in the Savage rifles is a lousy design, at least in my opinion. Before condemning that Butler Creek magazine,..I'd like to see the same cartridges used in the magazine that came with the rifle. I've had no end of trouble trying to shoot with hollow point ammo. in my rife. It would seem that the hole in the bullet catches in the loading ramp or breech area somewhere. Savage Arms makes good rifle,..but in this case they need to send these magazines back to the drawing board.
@@MichaelBellmbell556 How did I miss that ? I watch everything you have here on TH-cam,...I either forgot or missed those.....but I will go have a look now. Thanks! P.S. Yup,..I had forgotten those videos,..and the funny part is I even commented back there two years ago. I have since bought a couple of these 'A' series Savage's ( and the 'B' series too ) and have learned about those magazines. I'll watch them again now.
@@MichaelBellmbell556 Oh my yes and as a viewer I object to this cavalier treatment of channels like yours, by TH-cam. All your channel does is explain the different subjects and topics that are connected with this shooting sport.
That's the problem with those savage rifles in 17 and 22 mag. The magazine design sucks stock or aftermarket it's just a poor magazine design. I 've tried hmr 17 but my first was a wsm17,and same problem.
Check for a sharp edge on the bottom of the chamber. I used some 220 sandpaper and sanded the bottom edge of the chamber, where a feed ramp would be. It took about ten minutes and my Butler creek magazines work great now.
Thanks,
Is there a video on how to do this?
I bought the .22lr a22 the butler creek 25 round mags work great! Thank you for your videos I really like watching them. Thanks again!
Glad you like them!
Hahaha, those 50gr game-shok rounds seem to work in everything! To be honest, it's already enough using a firearm that is notoriously ammo sensitive...add to that a magazine that's also picky!
I'll have to get a CZ 512 American, as it seems to be immune to a lot of the issues facing other semiautomatic 22 magnums.
Check out my test with 12 different rounds ....th-cam.com/video/ROHaBaYt6hs/w-d-xo.html
Very very interesting. Thanks for your work. Hi from Ukraine!
Thanks for watching!
My son and I had the same issues with outs A22lr. After several magazine loadings (3-4) the issues went away. I guess they need a break in period.
I have been concentrating on using Hornady 45 grain FTX and have been impressed with the bullseye accuracy at 50 yards, ( my range doesn't have 100 yds. yet). I am not impressed with the Butler Creek 25 round mags. I bought four and regret it. Wish I had bought the 10 round mags instead. The 25 round mag wants to load them skyward every time. Wish we could send them back to exchange.
BTW, I did decide to take out the 4 screws on the BUTLER CREEK 25 round mag per the instructions and split the case easily. The coil spring stays in one side( the one with the red thumb loading assist). Taking it apart served no purpose cause the problem was plastic on plastic and we are talking dimpled plastic, not smooth. If that thumb assist slide against smooth plastic, it wouldn't be so bad. While I had it apart, I did put a few drops of gun oils on both sides. With a dropper or plastic oil bottle with the metal straw will do the same with it completely assembled. Now they slide great! Maybe if someone sands down the strip of plastic where the thumb loading assist slides, it may improve some, maybe not. Do not be afraid to remove the 4 screws and open the case. Nothing falls apart.
Not impressed with these mags either.
I tried my A22 Butler Creek magazine out for the first time the other day. I had several jamming issues. Was not able to get through more than 7-10 shots without a jam. Although it was around -15 degrees outside. Hoping that it isn't going to be an issue in milder weather.
It was ammo dependent for me but -15 degrees.......really.....that is a good day to clean guns. That had to be a contributing factor.
@@MichaelBellmbell556 thanks for the answer, you were right about the cleaning. My friend ran his bore snake through which made things much better. It was around -10 when I was shooting. Probably only had 5 jams out of 150+ rounds. Im an amateur shooter and now realize I definitely have to buy a bore snake and cleaning kit.
I live in Ga. so I don't have to worry about minus degree temps. I use the same magazines in my Savage B22 mag FV-SR. I haven't had an issue with these magazines at all. I use CCI 30gr and 40gr hollow points. Both cycle with no issues.
I recently bought a Butler Creek mag for my 10/22, and it was doing the same thing.
Have you tried different types of ammo to see if you can find certain ones that work well with the magazine?
Honestly, not yet. I have three Ruger BX 25 mags and this Butler Creek. Of all them, only one of Ruger mags work, and it works great. None of the others do. I don't know why. I couldn't get the Butler Creek to feed at all. I got tired of it quickly and switched to another gun that day at the range. Guess I should test it with other ammo too. Thanks.
Thanks for the video!
I was looking for a pcc, but there aren't many available these days ... so it was this, the Savage A17, or the Rossi RS22M ... I ended up getting the Rossi.
It only has 10 round magazines and no iron sights. It does have a built-in last shot hold open though, and the price is great (I paid $220). Reliability has been 100% so far with every kind of 22WMR I've thrown at it ...
I would love the Savage, but if these 25 round magazines don't work anyway, it wouldn't have much of an advantage ...
Hi Ralph,, you still shooten that Rossi after 2 yrs?? How's it holding up??picked me one up the other day and would like more than a 10rd mag, can't find anything ,, does anybody make anything larger ???thanks,,
@@messenger325 Unfortunately nobody has ever made large capacity magazines ... sooooooo I custom-fabricated my own mag coupler to have two magazines at the ready. ... not as good, but better than nothing 😅
I love the piece itself ... still reliable and accurate ... the trigger isn't great, but it works well enough for rabbit hunting.
@@ralphwiggam7630 thanks Ralph thats what i figured when i was having such a hard time finding anything,, thinking about contacting taurus see if they have any ideas , an why they don't make a larger one..👍
Will the A22 magazine interchange with the B22 magazine?
Where's Butler creek I need a of those magazine let me know
These magazines are next to impossible to find in stock now a day’s
I have a feeling it is going to get worse before it gets better.
Gun crapper.com ...I just ordered 6 yesterday shipped yesterday also...around $30.00 each
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The magazine is built for 22lr. Not magnum
Yep. I tested the factory 22 WMR mag when they came out and they were not reliable either.
Mbell556, I have a question for you. If you were going to build a 12.5 inch 556.. and going to shoot it suppressed, would you use a superlative arms piston with a bleed of function or a DI with a superlative arms adjustable gas block?
SA piston would be a little cleaner.
Will this fit a regular Ruger 10/22 ?
Looking in to 22 magnum rifle, this rifle still good?
Any update on this I want an auto loading 22 mag rifle with high cap mag
Just have to pick the ammo that works with this magazine.
Will this magazine work with my savage b22 magnum?
If it is designed to take 10/22M mags
@@MichaelBellmbell556 i just got two i sent for. And they work good in b22 magnum.
@@tomjones7285 Thanks
Sooo.... the answer to the question is...No!
Only with Federal 50 grain ammo.
So it's not reliable and it's sold out everywhere and you can't even buy one.
@@jrd8782 gun crapper.com had them 2 days ago I bought 6
I'd get another brand a mag
I will stick with 9 rouders for reliability
I believe the problem is that the spring it s too week
me too, seems very weak.
I have 4 of the Bc mags. They worked great for the first 1500-2000 rounds. Now the spring is so weak it won’t even feed a round unless I run the action manually. These mags turned a semi auto into a bolt action essentially. I was shooting cci 40gr.
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Thanks for watching!
Apparently that is a POS mag
It is picky to say the least.
thats so bad arse!!!!
Is it ammo or that mag
Does it fit Savage A22 Precision lr
No
Will it fit my model64
Don't know.
That A22 system in the Savage rifles is a lousy design, at least in my opinion. Before condemning that Butler Creek magazine,..I'd like to see the same cartridges used in the magazine that came with the rifle. I've had no end of trouble trying to shoot with hollow point ammo. in my rife. It would seem that the hole in the bullet catches in the loading ramp or breech area somewhere.
Savage Arms makes good rifle,..but in this case they need to send these magazines back to the drawing board.
Those reviews are on my channel. Check them out if you get a chance.
th-cam.com/video/ROHaBaYt6hs/w-d-xo.html
Here is my review looking at 12 different rounds with the original magazine.
@@MichaelBellmbell556 How did I miss that ? I watch everything you have here on TH-cam,...I either forgot or missed those.....but I will go have a look now.
Thanks!
P.S. Yup,..I had forgotten those videos,..and the funny part is I even commented back there two years ago.
I have since bought a couple of these 'A' series Savage's ( and the 'B' series too ) and have learned about those magazines.
I'll watch them again now.
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@@MichaelBellmbell556 Oh my yes and as a viewer I object to this cavalier treatment of channels like yours, by TH-cam.
All your channel does is explain the different subjects and topics that are connected with this shooting sport.
Nope! Mine rides a red rocket.
not a weapon id own jams too much
it is the high capacity mag
That's the problem with those savage rifles in 17 and 22 mag. The magazine design sucks stock or aftermarket it's just a poor magazine design. I 've tried hmr 17 but my first was a wsm17,and same problem.