BYU Football's Defense & Jake Retzlaff: A Winning Formula for Big 12 Success? | BYU Cougars Podcast
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- Can Jake Retzlaff's elite performance against Wyoming silence the critics? The BYU Cougars' quarterback dazzled with a high Pro Football Focus rating and improved pocket presence, sparking debate among fans and analysts alike.
Join us as we explore the BYU Cougars' defensive dominance, with standout performances from Tyler Batty, Logan Lutui, and Jakob Robinson, among other standouts in the win over the Wyoming Cowboys. Jake Hatch shares what he learned after re-watching the tape and adds what he thinks can be done for improvement for Brigham Young University (BYU).
Discover how offseason strength and conditioning gains are evident on the field, particularly along the defensive line. We also discuss the potential need for a tighter player rotation as the Cougars prepare for Big 12 play. Plus, hear our take on the controversial 2025 non-conference schedule, including a road game at East Carolina.
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I don't want to feel this way but I am literally holding my breath on each snap Retzlaff takes.
The most concerning thing about Jake is that all of his misses put the ball in harm's way. His misses are not because he is purposefully getting rid of the ball because no one is open. His misses are turnover throws.
Meh. I was pretty high on Retzlaff after last year. He played the toughest part of our schedule and brought life to the offense. On Saturday he made some awful throws, 3 of which should have been picks. At least he didn't have any brain dead plays like the attempt to throw it away against SMU. If he plays well against K State, I'll eat my words. I'm just not seeing it yet. The difference this year is not better play by Retzlaff, it's better defense.
This is a gold star comment! I find the dialogue about BYU fans overreacting to be funny, given that Lassiter himself had had enough. The truth is, had any of those near picks been picked off he would have been benched. I want Jake to succeed. I just don't think the evidence supports that's likely. I hope I'm proven wrong!
Amen....
Jake from locked on cougars it's understandable why there's rhetoric out there about Jake Retzlaff because he hasn't beaten a good team yet even SMU was a W because of the DEFENSE. QB 1 right now still reminds me of a JUCO guy. That's the level he's played, in the last three games. Wyoming stinks and he scored 20 something points on em.However, if he can win at home with that BYU D and crowd against K State this weekend. I'll give him a nod. He's still unproven I don't care about the stats. Go Cougs! 🤙🏼
Retzlaff was the highest rated qb in the big12 this week....
@@cts7648, and was nearly at the bottom if a few of those missed throws are picks (which they easily could've been). Stats require context.
Wyoming is a terrible defense and Retzlaff threw them what should have been 4 interceptions, not just the 1 they caught. PFF doesn't include dropped interceptions in their rating.
Had they not dropped a couple of those, you'd be singing a different tune this morning about his performance, even though the only difference would be Wyoming's not dropping them.
They rate every throw including "interceptable passes"
I'm pretty sure it's BYU's DEFENSE that has led the team to a 3-0 record........let's not get it twisted
The interception was a good decision, poor throw. The near interception was much worse-I think it was triple coverage?
The second quarter was rough. Until he got that touchdown Lassiter seemed to be getting really frustrated with the quality of the throws.
The rest of the game seemed pretty dang good.
Exactly. And I think to avoid being a prisoner of the moment, we should give BYU fans a little breathing room for their critiques until Jake demonstrates that he can be consistent against better competition. I feel like I'm in The Twilight zone in these discussions.
@@JeffMulitaloagreed
One of the perks of being a P4 team is that we should have a 7 game home schedule.
Look, qb play was not great. There were three throws that will be interceptions in league. WY was really bad this year. If the stat line had 3 interceptions you'd be singing a different tune.
How are you doing to say that when his PFF score was top 10 in the country. That's not just a computer algorithm...they have someone review every single snap and have a criteria to rate and adjust based on difficulty, etc.
Ok Jake. Come back to reality. Jake looked good vs an FCS opponent and one of the worst teams in FBS. Wyoming lost to freakin' IDAHO. ASU put up 48 on Wyoming. Our offense scored 27. Not spectacular. And the one defense he faced that is decent? He looked bad. He didn't "lead BYU to victory". The defense beat SMU.
Having said that, this week will answer a lot of questions for all of us. As a BYU fan, I'd love for Jake to look great in a win over KSU. But from what I've seen of Jake vs good defenses, I'm just not confident that's going to happen.
Retzloff has generally played okay. But let's remember he had a good game against Wyoming. It's not as if he is somehow absolutely proven himself because he played a good game against Wyoming? Let's be real, Wyoming is not very good! In fact the only good team he has a win against his SMU and obviously that was a questionable outing. Until I see something out of him when he plays in the Big 12 conference none of these first three wins really mean much except for SMU.
I don't know what game you guys are watching. BYU's recievers bailed him out on numerous occasions and there were too many throws into the turf right in front of wide open recievers. If Wyoming was Kansas State, Retzlaff would have thrown 3 picks. I'm capping it at 3 because I'm assuming he would get benched after the third. Unless he has a complete 180 before the Kansas State game, he will not finish that game. Probably will not finish the first half. I want to be wrong, but I'm not. Too many BYU fans need to take off their blue colored glasses. I don't care what Pro Football Focus said. They are just looking at his numbers (which were nice to be sure) but they are not watching the game. Quite frankly, I can't believe you watched the game back and still think that was an elite performance. Retzlaff has some running ability and he is durable, but in the words of Drake, they invented the forward pass in 1906. He makes bad decisions, chooses the wrong reciever, then makes a poor delivery that are sometimes caught by elite recievers. Unless something changes, Jake will not finish this week's game.
Definitely in spite of Jake. He is a walking disaster.
BYU is in fact 3-0 because of the defense. Retzlaff is not where the credit belongs. Now, if he goes out and plays well the next 3-4 weeks and the Cougs put up enough points to get 2 wins I'll gladly eat my words. But based on his okay performances against two bad teams I certainly wouldn't say he's providing anyone wrong.
Jake, Retzlaff would have had not one, not two, but three INTs if Wyoming defenders could hold onto the ball. It's strange to me that you try to give him so much credit for beating bad teams. The one decent team he played in SMU he was absolutely terrible. Even Lassiter was rolling his eyes at Jake's play on Saturday.
This was my thought as well.
Let’s keep this in perspective. BYU is 3-0 against two FCS level opponents (yes Wyoming is an FCS level team this season) and a mid major FBS opponent. And Retzlaff struggled mightily against SMU. Let’s remember that we started last season 3-0 including a road win over Arkansas, and then proceeded to finish the season 2-7.
BYU fans a pretty spoiled when I comes to good quarterback play. This year will be a “find a way to win” year and we just don’t want that.
He can start to turn the corner on his reputation once he strings together a few conference wins. If he can play well vs Kansas State, then it’ll be a good start.
Yes. He has a lot to prove, and he has the opportunity.
Amen!
Your saying “if trends hold” Retzlaff’s performance is sufficient to do well in conference play. Yes, if all Big 12 teams are as incapable of scoring as the first three teams, then the turnover margin will continue to not matter.
😂😂 "yes, if all Big 12 teams are as incapable......" You're absolutely correct; I feel the same!
Spot on!!😂
The whole “disagree without being disagreeable” was an all time favorite line of my mom when she’d lecture us whenever me and my brothers had fights 😂
Hatch you have it wrong! It's not about Jake Retzlaff's performance that makes me uneasy about this BYU team. It's about the offensive coordinator and more importantly the offensive line that has me concerned. They do not have an offensive strategy which tells me he does not have enough offensive playbook to attack the defense. Poor recruiting for running backs this past season. This week sauce offense is going to get their butts kicked as they move forward. The offensive coordinator is clueless and you see it in his plays. BYU has great players and even really good offensive line men! They are poorly coached and have been for a few years. For example how can Suamataia start for KC this year coming from BYU's terrible offensive line that was pick-apart last year?
Our RB room is a big problem. It puts more pressure on the QB to make plays and Jake has. Until we can run the ball better, we have to live with Jake's play. And our RBs right now are issue #1. Ignoring that is pure fan blindness.
@@CBT1968 These aren’t Jake’s plays; they’re Aaron Roderick’s. Jake is just the quarterback running the plays Aaron calls.
We all know the running backs the past few years are weak, and Aaron has made that loud and clear. He’s stuck in the past, trying to find another Allgeier, and might still be using Jeff Grimes’ old playbook.
The old, boring strategy of "establish the run, then pass the ball, blah, blah, blah” is a bad typical approach! Opponents see this coming a mile away. BYU needs to re-learn how to design an offense to counter the defense you’re facing and use the talents of your players to your advantage.
Coaching of the offensive line has showed improvement, but when you have the QB running around avoiding Wyoming's rush, tells me they're not in sync.
This is fair. And the challenging QB situation ties into this line of thinking too. This O has lacked a clear identity for far too long now.
You have rated this week's game as the greatest D1 game Retzlaff has ever played. This may be true. The problem is it looks very close to the worst D1 game he has ever played. Seven games in and not seeing it. Leaving Gerry on the sidelines is limiting the offense.
I realize that rotation may be large. But being able to keep players fresh and play with extreme intensity also has great benefits. What a great opportunity for a coach to have a deep and high-quality rotation
People are worried about Retz because he hasn't had a clean came in the Big12 yet. Wyoming could have had 3 total INTs if they were a better. Thats the problem. I'll shut my mouth and judgement when he wins in the Big12. Kansas State win with 1 INT and I'll be a believer.
You’re giving Retzlaff way too much credit for the wins. He looked great in Week 1 and deserves praise, but he regressed to his P4 opponent mean in Week 2. The defense won that game despite Jake’s turnovers. Week 3 was solid, but could’ve been much worse with nearly three more interceptions-and his third-down accuracy was a big issue. Now, with nine straight P4 opponents coming up, time will tell.
Here’s what we know so far: against P4 talent, Retzlaff's a turnover machine (five data points on this now). Against FCS or low-end G5 teams, he’s above average to good. I’m genuinely hoping for the best moving forward, as I’m not a hater-or a truther ;-). I’m honestly stunned this coaching staff hasn’t designed a package for Bohanon to get a real sense of what he can do, especially since he’s been out for nearly two seasons. Right now, it feels like they’re doing a high-wire act, putting all the eggs in the Retzlaff basket with an unknown backup coming off major surgery in a new program. I'm aligning myself with Austin Collie who has been calling for a GBo package for a few weeks now to get some in-game reps.
The Big12 must have had some horrific QB play if that was the best of the weekend!
Yeah that 100th 'thumbs up' was me Jake. I like how many comments there are below. Most are far more close to 'REALITY' than you seem to be. Jake, you saw how pissed off Lassiter was right? You saw the SNUB in the endzone right? Lassiter like Roberts is a 1000 yard Receiver and he literally got jack crap from Retzlaff. I saw someone below dole out the score for the ASU vs Wyoming game. BYU got just under HALF what ASU scored. I want to see Retzlaff do well against KState but I don't expect it. Why? Because Retzlaff when pressured loses his mind. SMU's little bit of Pressure completely wigged him out. There was a comment below about how Kalani talks tough but doesn't hold anyone accountable. My prediction? They'll end up using Bohanon and Bohanon will be in the same position as Retzlaff was last year. Bohanon hasn't gotten the Reps to step in an be effective and then ARod and Kalani will point to it and say, 'See? We told you Retzlaff was better!' and anyone who knows a football from a hole in the ground will know they're FULL of CRAP... But hey.... GO RETZLAFF! AROD has bet his job on the kid. Kalani hopefully will have his Job scrutinized for letting ARod do it this way if things implode. And last thought? Saw this below as well. 3 wins out of the 9 left? That's 6 losses that are gonna be tough to swallow. BYU has the horses to compete. It only has half the Coaches.
Jake, that's just it (4:23) Retzlaff DIDN"T put that ball into the right place for Epps, who had a 2-step lead on the defender, to catch it. There are no "what ifs" in serious, objective critique.
So many retzlaff haters on here! If Bohanon was better he would be playing! Maybe we don’t have a better option………I’ll support whoever the coaches go with
If Bohanon had more than 1 year of eligibility, there would not have been a QB battle to begin with. That's the only reason Retzlaff is starting, because of A-Rod's bad recruiting.
@leviwilliams9774 'if Bohanon was better, he'd be playing'.... not with ARod as OC....
You're proving my exact concern. We have no idea, including the coaches, what Bohanon looks like in-game with live bullets flying. Especially having not played for two seasons, after major shoulder reconstruction, and in a new program. Some players are gamers and others are practice players. Why not give him a designed package to get some live game reps? This could be done in a way to not "split reps" and still find out what you have in Bohanon so you understand how long the leash should be on Retzlaff. Right now, this staff if flying partially blind and I hope it doesn't come back to bite them.
BYU had 0 400+ yard offensive games in 2023. Let that sink in. So far we have 2. Who cares if vs SIU and Wyoming. We didn't do it last year vs SHU and SUU. The O is improved. Jake is improved. I can live with 1 INT taking a shot. Honestly, I am more worried about the RB room and run game. We once again don't have one. It's a big issue.
let us wait and see how they do against real teams. i think it will take a couple of more years to get at top level in the league
I watched the Wyoming tape the day after and Jake continues to impress…stats after 3 games: 841 yards passing (280 yards avg/game) 60.6% completion, 3 int’s, 7 TD’s, and leads the team in rushing…give Retzlaff a break as he is playing his ass off for BYU and running with abandon when he needs to …
I know that our db's dropped several int as well. It seems like retzlaff gets the grief for"possible int.", yet nobody is giving the defense crap for the drops. Keep things in perspective.
We haven't played anyone yet... and he still throws at least one pick a game.... if he can not do that ill be happy.
LMAO.... I was hoping we'd see some titles like this on Videos after beating a really bad team like Wyoming. Even better that its on the Jakes a Jake Homer page... What I said after the SIU game was that Retz can't throw the long ball. He rares back and chucks it and then starts praying. Having receivers like Robert's and Lassiter making it a 50/50 proposition and the Only Reason he has any of his 'prayers answered'... if Wyoming was a B12 foe? It would have been 3 INT'S and we would still be on the there are 'No Consequences' with Kalani as HC train. Lassiters reactions to Retz poor throws and even after the TD by snubbing him says it all. Lassiter is every bit as good as Robert's and the only thing holding him back is Retz. Keep gloating Hatch... you are one of the crew that thinks winning 3 games out of the next 9 should be deemed 'successful and competitive'... if the BIG ONE Realignment into 2 Super Leagues happens while BYU is striving for 3 Conference wins, calling that successful, we are going to be hanging out with Wyoming permanently. But, hey...we'll like our HC. If BYU beats KState? I'll start feeling better about things. KState is beatable. But not if Retz tries to 'pray" during the game....
I have watched Kansas state play, and they are great football team both on defense and offense. If the cougars don't have a stellar game on both sides of the ball, they will not be victorious. They can't afford any turnovers whatsoever! Because if they fumble the ball, or surrender any interceptions, Kansas State will capitalize on all of those! Just sayin!
Jake we are not drinking the blue coolaid! If you are seeing a guy balling out, then you are in for a rude awakening. He should have had 3-4 INTs against a bad team. Just wait.
Lassiter would not even acknowledge Jake after the TD. And like you said, “throws to him were downright awful “ that’s the QB we all see!
Great news about Hill.
Agree. That hit was brutal.
I think BYU had fight in both the Oklahoma and Oklahoma State games at the end of last season.
It didn’t start this season.
It started last season and carries forward for now a total of five games with three victories.
Kansas state will show us what we really have.
I guess I'm not in the loop with all the negative fans. I'm still in wait and see mode with him. I will be after KSU too.
You find plenty of low-IQ fans on Cougarboard.
Stuck in the "wait mode" is akin to the frog in the pot where the water temp is slowly rising. It doesn't end well.
I want to see Coastal Carolina come to Provo!
Jake’s isn’t that good. If he doesn’t improve significantly this will be a disappointing season. Even if he improves we are foolish if we don’t have the backup QB play more. As we need to be prepared for injuries when they come. We will see if Jake is as good as you say after the next two games. To win those games every part of the game has to get much better.
💯 agree on the rotations.
Jake H. , what planet are you on? Retzlaff has proven nothing. Let's see whose right after they play the big boys.
Very good podcast. Great content.
Bad Takes today Jake.
Retzlaff still sucks (wait til Kansas State game is over)
Why are you puffing up our boys after beating a terrible 0-2 Wyoming team?
Take the blue goggles off bro before you do your podcast
One pick? At best it should be 2 Interceptions. At worst 3. His decision making is still bad.
Retzlaff will win some and lose some. It looks like Retzlaff is trying to put the ball into too many tight coverages. The receivers are some of the best, but he needs the support of a running game that BYU just struggles to produce. I believe 7-5 or 8-4 is not out of the range of possibilities.
BYU fans on social media were absolutely wearing their clown jerseys on Saturday with regard to Jake Retzlaff. If social media were around in the 80s, the same fans would have been calling for McMahon, Young and Bosco to be benched; a completely emotionally biased, irrational clown show.
There is some truth to this. However, the fan base is working off of a pretty decent baseline. The argument that we need to give Jake more time this season is fair. That being said, Jake has shown well against basically two FCS opponents. He was bad against SMU. So I think it's fair for fans to be concerned about being overly committed to Jake. I hope he does well. I hope he proves me wrong.
@@JeffMulitalo concerned, yes, but this isn't only what's being represented online. No NCAA football coach in his right mind would EVER do what many online fans seem to be demanding - bench a winning and overall well performing QB. In addition, these fans are seeing ghosts, including near INTs (that disqualify Retzlaff from playing against future opponents). The "grass is greener" syndrome is strong with BYU fans (online) and it's causing them to see a completely different game.
@@lukeskywalker7461this is exactly right! Before the season started if you took a poll of byu fans and told them we would go 3-0 with Retzlaff current stats I bet you at least 90% would take it. I don’t think Retzlaff is the best qb in the big 12 but I do believe he has outperformed expectations thus far.
yeah yeah Luke.... How's Rising's hangnail doing? They gonna do open heart surgery on his finger?
@@defylogictech couldn't tell you, dork
Jake is high risk high reward much funner to watch than consistently mediocre QBs who are a dime a dozen. Some QBs rarely even attempt to make big plays. Jake made 8 big plays according to a stat. Jakes QB mind is excellent! Unfortunately ksu has a charismatic qb too and a good defense, ie beat down of u of Arizona. Something's gotta give!
People are just loving to hate in Retzlaff. People wanting Gerry acting like they see practice and have seen him play recently. Obviously there is something going on at practice that we are not seeing. Even media availability is limited. Just let it play out and make the change when absolutley necessary.
You act as if there haven't been recent examples of QB's sitting behind starters that we all wondered woulda, coulda, shoulda when they finally got their chance. Baylor Romney, Christian Stewart, and James Lark just to name a few.
@@stevecarlile2488 thing is Gerry has.had multiple chances at multiple programs. I'm not saying he's bad or anything, but again, it's not our choice. I trust the coaches to make the right choice. If Gerry gets put in as the starter, then fine.
Jake 2024 is better than Jake 2023 by a good margin. But I do still worry about his ball security and 3rd down performance. He still needs to improve both, but his big play ability is a strength we have to recognize.