Q&A + Day 3 Doom Blast Pathfinder UPDATE! Destroying the endgame (as expected)!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ธ.ค. 2024
- Sorry for the lack of edits/ quality on this one! Very exhausting league start and I've been grinding hard to get the build to a state comparable to a trade league build as early as possible. Pulled a lot of questions I was getting on discord/comments/in game into the video, if you have any more questions, let me know!
Resources:
My current PoB: pobb.in/2PHR89...
Impending Doom Calcs Spreadsheet: docs.google.co...^7
PoE Profile: www.pathofexil...
Build Guide: • CONQUER THE ENDGAME - ...
Twitch: / void241
First of all, thank you for your build
Quite an exhausting first 3 days of the league; how is your league start going?
Unlucky :S
Unlucky also. In addition i still have no idea how to work out my cdr after watching both videos 😢
I have to say, it's been a while since i've had that much fun with a build, thx man ! Was enjoying chatSF as well
Really good build guide swapped from PF TR and it was sooo smooth I followed your advice and it was such a breeze. Thanks again for build
Hi. I am swapping from TR to ID today, when I wake up. I just wanted to ask one question. What is the reason for going to the Staff instead of let's say Apep's and the shield? Can we still do that if we put the 6-link in the body, and swap gems with weapon? Thank you for this amazing video, and the one before. Everyone else is doing Occultist, so we rely on you for more updates, WE LOVE YOU AND YOUR CONTENT, keep them coming. Thanks again.
Staff is way. WAY. More damage. It’s also cheaper very early on to get a 6 linked staff. When calcing for late game, a +3 chest came up to about 17 mil whereas a staff comes out to closer to 30? And plus (as I am now currently finding out) you can beat a cane of kulemak as an endgame weapon. It’s incredibly hard and you need a perfect crucible tree but it IS possible. I’m currently in the process of making said crucible tree with 3/4 mods and will update once the base is ready at the very least.
i got a insane weapon with crucible for that build
bought a +1 socketed gems fractured staff, alt spammed 63% chaos dot multi regaled and annulled the other mod
and for the crucible i recombined stafs until i got +1 int gems, eldritch battery and 25% inc cooldown recovery rate
now the goal is farming to multimod chaos dmg% and +2 lvl to socketed gems
I literally switched from Toxic Rain to this at level 68, no problems, just ripping through everything (Kitava was crazy easy). Using Apep's+Lepers currently. Probably have waaaay too much ES currently (1254), but it made sure I do not go OOM for anything. Time to crank some maps, absolutely fun build and crazy broken tbh.
Glad you're enjoying it! :)
is here something like a aoe breakpoints?
i have like 3 times the dmg shown in pob than my first build - but it feels so much worse on bosses, dont know why -i know about the castspeed/cdr - and its fine
i wonder if there is something what can mess up aoe - so i dont have 2 overlaps so it halfs my dmg?
First of all Thanks for all i been searching the build a lot and i will try this ! has started today this question is side build which atlas tree early/mid/endgame you recommend? i always bad at it but if you share your opinions or links would be great aswell!!
New sub keep it going!
I haven’t been keeping up much with sc economy since I’m on chatSF right now, but you can never go wrong with essences (although they are very dangerous). Expedition is a favourite of mine as it gives a lot of currency and rog makes some insane items and you can choose the difficulty somewhat. I also heavily recommend farming betrayal (Jun) early. Safehouses give a lot of exp, they help set up a basic pool of scarabs and they give you all the veiled mods you need as well.
Hello, please make video how to use that cast speed google document.
'Tis on the way :D
What pantheons are you using? Great video (:
Soul of Arakaali major and Soul of Ralakesh for minor.
@@void2412 How are you avoiding Frozen? or did I miss that
@@fyuriusryage5353 purity of elements for full ailment immunity
@@void2412 TY, duh, forgot about that... shit, this build is crazy tanky, I just went round & round with a huuge Expedition, that I must have selected something like curse immune or something by mistake, couldnt kill nothing but they couldnt kill me either! Pathfinder for the win (well draw, gave up after 5 minutes)
@@fyuriusryage5353 xdd yeah I hate that expedition mod because its not even highlighted lol.
Glad you're enjoying the build!
Thank you for this
Can you please post the end game PoB here? Or is there a discord or somewhere to find it?
This game is so complex lol my brain is exploding. Thnx for explaining a little.
Ahah no worries
Hey I'm new to POE, learning the game. Why Pathfinder VS an Occultist for Impending Doom? And is there a chaos damage type build I can level with if I go Pathfinder before switching to this build? About what level can you switch to this build?
I personally believe that pathfinder is just better? Its not that occultist is bad I just feel like pathfinder does things better than occultist does in general. You should not consider swapping to the build before ~level 90. I have a full guide up, which also details what to play pre swap. Personally I would never recommend this build to a new player because of the complexity and the requirements. If you STILL want to play the build, then check out the guide.
I personally agree with Void's comment. I think Occultist gets profane bloom explosions (Which you really dont need, pathfinder poison proliferation is plenty and curse AoE is pretty great) and perhaps a bit more damage than pathfinder? Both are perfectly viable and solid however, both get enough damage and tankiness. If you decide on occultist I would recommend the guide on maxroll, it is very beginner friendly, however I think Void's guide explains the general working of the build/impending doom setup a bit better. For leaguestart I went with poisonous concoction untill maps and then bought a vixen's and switched to impending doom which worked out nicely.
Amazing guide man! i switched to it yesterday and it has been working very well, but i have a question, i have 11% cdr and 78% inc cast speed in my character sheet, temp chains and enfeeble are still level 19, and i only get single cast doom procs on the overlap between the spell cascades, is this the intended behaviour? if i take off spell cascade for instance, it only procs after 2 casts, asking to know if this is normal or if it's and issue with the calcs or gem levels, thanks again for the great guide, keep it up!
Yes, the single proc happens on the area with the overlaps. At first it feels a bit “meh” but once you get some good poison dps going your prolifs should start to wipe the screen anyway. One suggestion for early is that you can try to take the 300% poison mastery on non poisoned enemies as this makes the prolif stronger (I had this for a while).
I have this build mostly working but what are we supposed to do with Malevolence if we can't afford an anomalous increased duration support to bring the mana cost down? can't cast malevolence at all as it costs 200 mana and my unreserved is about 50, have 0 cost impending doom.
I mentioned this in the video, but you can spend 3 points for elderitch battery. Vixen's entrapment gives you enough ES to cast your divine blessing with EB up.
I’m playing in regular soft core trade and I don’t know what is going on but taste of hate is over 1 divine so I’m running without rn. I don’t know good strategies to make currency and am stuck with low phys mitigation.
I’m dying a lot too, I don’t know if this is because of the lack of a taste of hate or if I’m doing something else wrong
@@at_ the phys taken as is required for the build to function, hence why you probably feel like you’re dying without taste of hate. Make sure that you have lightning coil and helmet implicit + prefix as well, that should help. If you’re struggling for currency, you can’t go wrong with essences. If you are unable to do essences in reds, you can always do essences in lower tier maps like t3 or so since the essence mechanic does not scale reward with map tier
@@void2412 I am running essences but they are never selling, I have two divines + worth of essences but nobody ever messages for them and tft is spammed so much I never get any responses there either I have all the other mods besides taste of hate
@@at_ Taste of hate is like 23% phys conversion, its a VERY large amount for the build. It is the second highest source of phys conversion which is why I mentioned that it is imperative to acquire before playing the build
Essences always sell. Undercut the market and they will sell in a matter of just a few seconds. I have done this league after league without failure and I know of people playing trade right now making money selling essences as well.
Worst case scenario you can go to the WTB section of tft and sell there, though the prices will be much worse.
Make sure you are levelling your essences up to at least shrieking before selling, screaming essences have very low demand.
Sick video! My recommendations though: Get a better mic as soon as you can. Structure your videos a bit better and cut some of the as i call it "water" talk. My English isn't perfect, what i mean is, that you should focus heavily on the subject. You could also make smaller videos to adress different themes like mana reservation, many people have a problem with stuff like that. Overall you are doing a great job, very good content, very helpful!
Yeah the content for this video was much less structured mostly due to lack of sleep and exhaustion. Heading into day 5 I currently have about 3 days and 10 hours logged into poe for the grind so I’m very tired lol
Will work on the mic for sure though, thanks for the feedback! Will try to be more concise in the future with my language as well.
@@void2412 you are doing great! Hope you can have some rest, I've been going crazy too this league, haha
I started as a occy poison doomblast and had a fair amount of damage issues compared to the crit version I played last league. I switched that over to crit and it is still godly, even with the loss of sandstorms visage.
Levelling a pathfinder to really get into the poison end-game as the occy dies too easily.
How is the general mapping experience? I saw at the start of the map you showed there isn't much doomblast damage, and poison is relied on even for rares/magic.
That's because this IS a poison based build. Late game we use deadly ailments. Once you have enough damage you can pretty much just tap your impending doom and the poison prolif basically kills everything.
Are you planning on going for transcendence?
No, I don’t think so. I am planning on messing around with that self poison amulet though
Great vid have two questions.
-Is it worth getting just one awakened spell cascade or does you need two for it to be good, if you only get one do you put in your self-cast curse or in the gloves??
-For the manual curse is there an advantage on self casting despair vs say temp chains? Basically does it matter what curse you self-cast is?
The uptime on your self cast curse is very high but there are those slight instances where it technically isn’t on (replaces by punishment for like less than a tenth of a second to proc doom blast). Despair adds damage, temp chains adds duration and action speed reduction. Personally I value my Defenses very highly and I don’t mind losing an absolutely minuscule amount of damage if it means that the monster action speed isn’t being constantly fucked with. so technically it DOES matter but the difference is minuscule.
For awakened cascade, its important that I’m honest and say that I literally don’t know. I have tried to gather information but other people I ask or go to also don’t have any information either on exactly what 1 awakened cascade does. Although I am aware that with 2 your cast rate is essentially higher, I am unsure if that can be achieved with just 1 and where it would go. Really sorry I don’t have the information, I’ve been looking and this is quite a complex build with some small niches that remain to be explored in detail
Can this be played with one hand and Shield or staff is mandatory?
Can be played with 1H and shield. You will lose a lot of damage and most likely won't be much tankier.
Can you recommend what I should prioritize on upgrade currently? Currently L80 1.09m dps, with Apeps+Lepers. Dunno if worth to swap Lepers for a 2nd Apep's (1.24m), craft a staff (seems iffy upgrades currently), or focus on the cluster jewels. Going to buy a L21 Impending Doom for now, everything else just going to let level up.
Passive tree is very important. Start with your clusters and annoint first.
The new PoB update made my poison DPS go from 7m to 3m after the added support with Vixens and ID. Is the new number the correct one? Damage doesnt change when I add the 1000 increased Cast Speed modifier.
Remove 1000% increased cast speed. Set doom blast overlap # to 2. Tick "use vixen's entrapment" cooldown in pob. If your dps is still lower than it was before, then your cast speed is either too high or too low.
@@void2412 Yeah I just saw that it was the exact same when changing overlap to 2, thanks!
what pantheon are you using for maping ?
Arakaali + Ralakesh
Really nice explanation but i still dont get the Impending Doom calc sheet. i mean i look at the cast speed of the curse in game and its for example 2.63 per second so what would that be in the sheet ?
You should check the cast speed of the curse in PoB. Remove the custom modified and check your increases to cast speed, multiply that by your “more cast speed” and then by your “action speed”
So for example, if I have 5% action speed and 113% increased cast speed, I would do 113*1.05 and then use that number to look at the sheet
@@void2412 thank you very much that fixed alot of problems :D besides the mana issue that i had. in SSF its pretty mantatory to farm Catharina for the flask enchant since i ran out of mana resulting in dead casts since not all curses could be casted :D
Please could you publish a vídeo killing normal minotaur, just to see the dps performance. Thx
I will include a showcase in the next update as well.
How do you craft the endgame belt?
It’s a very expensive craft, probably more than a hundred divines. I will be making a crafting guide soon for most of the items where I will be showing a different similar, cheaper belt craft with 16% cdr instead of 20. The 20% cdr isn’t as insane as it was because of how easy it is to make a good crucible tree with 25% cdr.
Tldr: forget the influenced cdr it’s no longer worth it . Start with fractured belt base and use veiled cdr instead.
have you ever thought of making PF doomer with Cospris will? Or do you think that would sacrifice too much phys mitigation?
The item doesnt give much power and yes, we would lose too much phys mitigation.
What do you think about using master surgeon + petrified blood as the last ascendancy point? (instead of 30% flask effect)
Seems to give a lot of survivability, at least until being able to afford a progenesis
I believe 30% magic flask effect is just much stronger because we have so much phys taken as ele; juicing the reduced elemental damage taken is insane for defense. Additionally we get more resistance and mana cost reduction, alongside more movement speed and more cast speed. You can try to mess with master surgeon but the build would require significant changes in pathing to get more life flask nodes and personally I dont want my defense to rely on me manually pressing a button to defend against things. I also have major wrist issues which is another reason why I prefer the automatic flask setup.
@@void2412 makes total sense. I guess I'll keep it until I can afford a ToH. Great guide! My leaguestart has been amazing
I've been trying to figure out my approx dmg in PoB, but I can't add poison stacks for some reason, is there a trick to do that? For now I guess I'll just have to calculate it manually.
Also the divergent void manipulation doesn't seem to do much in regards to leech. I can sit there and spam away doomblast on a boss when my hp is half and my life moves so little it's almost not noticeable to the point that i've changed it to awakened void manip. Now sure if im missing something.
Other than that, the build is amazing. Im 98 in sc trade and have demolished everything so far. Damage, tankyiness and clearspeed is great.
Divergent void manipulation will increase its leech much more as you gain more and more damage, this is due to deadly ailments removing about 80% of your hit based damage. Alternatively, if you really want more leech then you can slot in awakened added chaos instead.
Also for PoB you don’t need to manually add in poison stacks, it calculates your dps automatically internet “total dps inc. posion”.
Glad you like the build!
@@void2412 According to PoB my dmg per poison is 1.4m and the total is 10.9m but it says that my poison stacks to 24. Anyway, that makes sense regarding the leech, thanks.
@@void2412 Divergent void manipulation is 6.7 divines right now on CSC, I think I will pass for now...
@@fyuriusryage5353 yup that ended up being expensive hence why I included it in the mid budget pob. Don't have one myself because there are none on market for me.
Hey! Quick question, but I've started playing the build, currently sitting at 800 ES w/ EB and mana drops so fast, can't really afford the mods on ring or flask, any way to fix this, only temporarily?
Not really, no. Majority of the cost is probably coming from your vixens so it’s hard to do much about it. Maybe try using inspiration as an additional link on your despair but that’s about it. You’d probably be better off running curses ground support if you don’t have access to mana cost reduction, and play without vixens for a bit.
@@void2412 Alright! Thanks for the answer. I guessed as much, but hey, my problem for not listening to your advice and switching to it before farming my currency haha. :D Thanks again man! Great video btw, very excited to see what you do next in term of builds or content!
Can you explain in detail how to craft a decent staff? alt spam until t1 chaos mult -> directly regal or do you aug regal? how many open pre/suf do i need after the regal?
Do i just multimod +2 sup then and % chaos?
Alt spam -> regal. You need 2 open prefixes and one open suffix, so no matter what the regal hits, doesnt affect the craft. Multimod and benchcraft +2 support and %chaos.
@@void2412 and if you want to craft the "endgame"? :D
and what if the regal hits a prefix?
Does the chaos dot multi need to be "alone" when you regal? so its alt spam -> chaos dot multi alone, if not, try to anull or something so that you ensure that you dont hit double prefix when you regal? sorry i never crafted a staff like this..
Tried to hit at least T2 %chaos (with any other mod) - wasted 2.5 divines in alts (~4k), stopped at T3 lol (ilvl was ok). So also interested in how to craft this staff, because I don't want to 50/50 annul 3 div mod lol.
Why do you not consume mana when you cast?
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@@HexTaxFraud My skills cost 0 mana. At the time I was only using EB for my blessing since I couldn't buy the anomalous increased duration since there were none on market in chatSF league. I have since bought and equipped an anomalous increased duration gem, so I have dropped EB completely.
@@void2412 but why do your skills cost 0 mana? Sorry I wasnt playing for a long time
Mana cost reduction:
Mana cost flask craft + flask effect scaling
-mana cost on jewelry
Skittering runes for curse mana cost
Inspiration + anomalous increased duration for blessing cost.
Hey, could you include an endgame POB with some good examples of items? Also do you know if this build could clear wave 30 simulacrum with endgame gear? I would totally try this build but on trade directly on high budget 😅
I have not tested simulacrums on this build; dont have an answer for you there. High budget pob is on my build guide. If you want higher, I still need to figure out what is "craftable" according to the new league mechanic for weapons and such.
@@void2412 thanks!
Speaking of tankiness. How tanky the build is/will be?
Endgame version of the build can tank an Uber shaper slam without having a guard skill up. Defenses are as follows:
100% phys taken as ele
More than 80% elemental damage reduction from flasks
25% block
(If you use grace) 20k evasion
5k life
Suppression cap
Crit immunity
High movement speed and cdr (helps dodging)
Additionally, you can also use progenesis which I didn’t include in the initial PoB. If you follow the flask effect, progenesis would come out to somewhere around 40-50% damage reduction on top of all the defense layers we already have.
Hi, can i share my pob ? idk what to upgrade to do some bosses im lacking ES while fighitng bosses
Sure
@@void2412 cannot put my pob in comment. YT is insta delete it even when its separated and not be link anymore :( some discord? And i have another question, what content are you running for profit?
@@tenzjep I'm playing in chatSF league so no "money farming" going on at all. I'm pretty much just ssf aside from purchasing alt quality gems and uniques. You can reach out to me @Void241#1268 on disc
@@void2412 added by Lucyfer#5088
"destroying the endgame" gameplay: act 10
That was just in the intro to address FAQ questions about doom blast trigger rate. Finished the video with a veritania kill that took approximately 7 seconds.