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I'm not surprised. The first impression they gave us when introducing it was the speaker knew little to nothing about games, but liked FIFA. They're inspired by the bottomless money pit that is EA's cash cow. They're not trying to make video games, they're trying to stick their crusty fingers into the huge money pie that only higher-ups in the corporate side of the games industry can get through scummy means such as monetization.
I sacrifice some speed and go with 50mb DSL ATT because they have no data cap if you have an ATT cell. Being a big gamer, I would hit the $50 penalty every month on Xfinity. In fact, I had to quit xfinity within 3 months of them instituting data caps. Seriously, I housesat at my mom’s for 2 weeks in June and maxed the data overage on her xfinity. Funny thing is that I used to say there is no way they can institute data caps while pushing everything digital. Americans are getting screwed. I guess that is part of being American: getting screwed by corporate overlords…
I do work in the support of Russian's cloudgaming service. Decent 1920x1080 image stream takes about 5-25 mbts, depending of the end quality you choose.
"ISPs will know what to do." Anyone else remember the California Wildfires where Verizon capped the emergency services data to unusable speeds, stranding hundreds of workers with no idea where to go?
If they endangered the lives of hundreds of people, they should at least face charges of negligence. If they did it on purpose, the company should shut down, and the employees charged with attempted murder. Imagine if they could do this with bigger situations.
Histocrat 641402 if I remember correctly they threw a single employee under the bus to take the blame so they as a company didn’t take any of the legal blame.
Thats what happens when so much money is changing hands. Ive been gaming since the Genesis era, and Ill be 32 in a month. The industry needs a hard reset, or crash. It can be about making cool games again, not politics or bottom lines.
Oh, just wait till they snag some hot exclusives. Thise gave been selling consoles with inferior hardware for decades, they will sell people on cloud gaming. "Hardcore gamers" don't matter compared to the legions of sheep happily taking it up the ass to get to play their "must haves".
As a former hard(er) core gamer and now casual gamer, I can tell you we're not interested. A Netflix model...maybe, but I don't really play enough to justify even that. But this model? Pay (monthly subscription) then pay again (for games) then fight with everyone in the house for bandwidth? No thanks.
It's not just that the world isn't ready for something like Stadia. The reality is that the way it is, no one wants it. It's not made for actual gamers. It's a product made specifically for corporations and their shareholders.
It’s a product made to make money in Japan and China, you know the countries where smartphone gaming is the norm so being able to play AAA tittles on your phone lets you tap into this market
Comrade, glorious leader Google has unveiled their next grand gift to the people of america-stan. You may now purchase (VIDEOGAMES) for a measly 10 dollars a month, and you are not burdened by the weight of truly owning the product. Father Google will protect you from your own hubrice, and keep the (VIDEOGAMES) in their own care.
Thats the issue really, the way it works like a MMO except everything is done on server side outside control inputs but that is the main problem, lentancy and that will never be solved since you cannot beat handling it client/local side and this is why MMO despite potentially running entirely server side dont because it just raises lentancy.
@@rika6722 Stadia will have good integration with TH-cam streaming and the like, that's where they'll double down on their ad services I think. Besides, they put ads on free services, not paid services. TH-cam Red has no ads.
Talking about ads... all those who predict the stadia will fail, they are forgetting: -Unlike sony, google have hundreds of billions they can just throw away - because they reach over 2 billion youtube/etc users, who are used to STREAMING SERVICES, and google...it is google, they are going to flood all the TH-cam videos and google searches, with trillions of ads, for the stadia. Today, we type 'video gaming system', we might get sony/playstation, xbox... nintendo... in the first 3 results. When google starts promoting the stadia , the same google search will give #1 - try the google stadia gaming system today #2 sony ps4 #3 xbox X4 nintendo switch... And youtube...regular youtube users will have to watch 10, 20, 30 google stadia ads, each day. And like the song everybody hates, so terrible... but then radios start paying it over and over. . And people end up liking it... the same might happen, with the stadia And let's not forget. .. to google, the stadia is not a race. While eg, Sony, absolutely needs to make x billions with the Playstation, to break even, or reach their monthly goals, Google, on the other side, have all the time. They only have 2% of the market the 1st year ? No problem. Only 7% the second year ? No problem... slowly, they will make it. And all those concerns regarding the Internet speeds and bandwith... SAY HI TO THE 5G ! It's not a surprise why in the US they are trying to implement the 5G everywhere, asap. Because the day people will have 5g, and over 50-100mb of speed, the problem is solved.
@@only4posting also, 5G is a joke right now, nowhere near ready especially in the US. Half the reason they banned Huawei and beefed with China is coz they're leagues ahead in the 5G race. Now US have started tricking people by putting 5G E (Evolution) symbols on phones that don't support 5G yet through the same loophole that let ppl print 4g labels before speeds were fast enough lol. The standards for internet infrastructure worldwide is still too low atm, it's sad honestly. Gamers suffer the most. F
Oh, Stadia's boss is Phil Harrison? The one person who's been demanding the death of single-player for years and years? Right. That makes me have even less confidence in the console.
This is a bit random but well, yeah. Uhm.. we just want a freaking new powerful PS Vita/Nintendo Switch-like with an enough cooling efficiency, longer battery to play great AAA games, Ps4, xBox games, Nintendo games etc on a handheld console, anywhere any times we want! Pleaseee make it happen big companies! Σ(っ°Д °; )っ
Carter Landis from what i have heard it’s not even a console, to be quite honest it’s actually nothing. It’s just a cloud, you rent a cloud and play on your tv, pc , mobile, or whatever
Thankfully there’s still options, even physical games aren’t dead yet, so this is ahead of its time. If Google had released this in 5-7 years they may have us more my the balls, but that’s not the case currently.
That's why indies are here to stay for a long time coming. Keeping the pure tradition of gaming alive, away from the bullshit streaming / lootboxes / micro-transactions.
With game pass at least I save money. Most games I don't care if I own because after I beat them I usually never play them again. Stadia however is the worst of both worlds. Sure playing on a cellphone or tablet would be cool but then again you'd only have enough data at home or a friends.
@Freeman319 "Very true in Nordic countries though" - no, they're in the business of making money. Keeping people happy is just a condition to continue making money. In the US, corruption and monopolies allow ISPs to keep people unhappy due to lack of choice.
@Freeman319 If the rules were different in Nordic countries they wouldn't be making people happy either. It's not a roundabout way, it's an issue of causality.
I'm sure all the cloud gaming players will enjoy the "highest" quality of internet lootboxes in the form of fps and speed tiers. Oh I'm sorry I meant surprise internet mechanics!
@@agustincampillay7559 Exactly all of them are shit, overcharge for their services and generally act like the customer is fault if their service isn't operating as advertised.
Bendy Bruce Are you telling me you’re NOT willing to pay a subscription fee so that you MIGHT get a free game? Ohhhh nooooo. No, but really, Stadia sucks.
@Vox3l-Gl1tch Actually, it's filled to the brim with wokeness, inclusivness, multiculturalism, vibrant diversity and lots upon lots of containers with stunning & brave gender fluid
Scordare makes more sense to just save and buy a Xbox one or ps4 that go for as low as $150 when on sale. You don’t own your games on stadia unlike on console
One thing I hate that many subscriptions do is "give" away "free" games. They're not free, because they're an expected part of said subscription. It's part of what you pay for.
I have a similar inside joke with a friend about how hotels don't give away free breakfast in the mornings, it's "included breakfast" because that cost is just added to the room you're paying for. Companies love to trick people with word play.
I've known people who think something that's free is free because all you do is pay for shipping and handling. Then it's not free you still had to pay.
ISPs like Comcast and Time Warner? You know, two companies that regularly make the "Most Hated Company" list? Yeah, their reputations totally make me sure they care a lot about keeping their customers happy... LFAO!
Games released on Steam are the exact same price as retail at launch. And when you agree to the terms of alot of games, you also don't own those games. It's just a license to use the game that can be revoked at any time (which a few games have done). The only real way to own a game is to physically buy a hard copy.
@@ThatLaloBoy But here's the thing, we PHYSICALLY have access to all the game files and there's millions of ways to bypass their DRM. While it is supposed to be a license it's pretty much a suggestion at this point and not enforced in the slightest.
@@ThatLaloBoy According to consumer law, you own the items (games) you buy on Steam. That's the exact reason almost all games that are not sold on Steam anymore are still downloadable by those who bought it way back when. This whole "you don't own digitally bought games, just rent them" is a baseless myth that got irrationally popular on the internet.
@@noalb3108 exactly, american and most european consumer protection laws do in fact cover these things. If you have enough time and money you can actually take companies to court and basically demand compensation if the company locks you out of being able to utilize the product you bought. As an example the live service games that you pay up front for, if their servers get shut down permanently and you can't run them in an offline mode the company has basically made an artificial best before date on said non-perishable product and can be brought up on fraud charges if you are so inclined and have the capital necessary to go through with it, their EULA actually counts for jack shit and is null and void if said EULA attempts to bypass and/or deny the protection of any consumer protection laws.
Exactly, Google was supposed to bring Google fiber to my city 2 years ago, they announced early in the year that they decided not to move on with Google fiber in Louisville, KY due to complications with the network. This will fail hard..
Yeah, Google fiber was supposed to be introduced in our area over 6 years ago now... It never was and they said a very similar thing: "There were complications in the network and it was going to take time for them to install all of the cables for it..." then the project just disappeared into the ether.
Kris when you pretty much run the world, you’re not gonna be in touch with it. That’s just a sad fact. They will keep looking for new ways to exploit human psychology to rake in our hard earned money without any regard for the individual consumer. It’s almost despicable
yea, no clue why digital versions of games dont launch at least 3 to 5$ cheaper with some sort of method to keep the pricing just below the average trending MSRP on the title. I will never buy a digital game with a physical copy as is, but paying full price for nothing and saving them distribution/shelving costs with zero benefit to the player is fucking stupid. Even Nintendo Club rewards were okay last generation, and they completely nuked that too, which made me stop buying titles I was only so so about in the first place.
1. Never trust Google. Look what theyve done to youtube and privacy, censorship, etc. 2. I like having my games in physical format. 3. I genuinely hope this is DOA
Yeah, we want a freaking new powerful PS Vita/Nintendo Switch-like with an enough cooling efficiency, longer battery to play great AAA games, Ps4, xBox games, Nintendo games etc on a handheld console, anywhere any times we want! Pleaseee make it happen big companies! Σ(っ°Д °; )っ
@@MangoesMan10 aannd this is if you interesting >> I know this is a bit random but I hope company like Sony, Nintendo, Apple, Microsoft or other company working together with some company that make "computer's component" like Nvidea, etc, and also working together with company that make a cooling system, a company that make battery for any device. This is because I hope they can made a research about what they do best and merge it together to make like ultimate handheld gaming device with a very efficient cooling system, a really last longer battery life, with really good hardware specification (maybe a ddr4 or even ddr5 ram, - insert a noice and powerful gpu and cpu name here -, etc) and smooth running software lol. For the design, I hope they can make the device look like PS Vita+iPhone xr (somehow I get this "psp/psvita vibe" from my xr because of the *THICC* bezel and the weight lol) but with no notch, just the thick bezel and curve screen like the iPhone xr. Oh and, the games we can play on it including : a mmorpg game from PC that optimized for handheld device, a PlayStation game, Nintendo game, any PC game, phone game, steam game, etc. Uhm.. make it happen someone! Lol Stay safe and have fun guys!
Whether you agree with Jeremy from The Quartering or not, he was banned from Magic the Gathering tournaments and lost his entire collection of cards online with no refunds or way to get physical copies because he was mean to someone. That WILL happen with Stadia too.
@@markbowerii7632 ....... No, learn a bit about it. Network latency is bounded by how quickly you can transport a signal and how quickly you can process it. Both these things cannot be improved with quantum computing in the same way both of these things can't be improved with microwaves. Quantum computing doesn't allow us to transfer signals faster than light or process controller inputs any faster than classic computing can,
@@kagenotatsumaki Those "exclusive" games would be so much better on a more powerful PC. The only thing they're beating are the chances of getting better experiences.
J Kim I like how some people are so adamantly swearing that this won’t be/ isn’t an issue. We *already* have input lag built in just because of our super 4K HD set-ups. Now add internet latency which will ALWAYS exist, every game is going to feel sluggish. No one is going to play fighting games on the Stadia that’s for damn sure.
"Hello comrade, and welcome to Stadia. Are you having an ideologically correct day? Would you like to confess any incorrect thoughts before your pre-login memory scan?"
"And blood-black nothingness began to spin... A system of cells interlinked within cells interlinked within cells interlinked within one stem... And dreadfully distinct against the dark, a tall white fountain played." Can I please play my games now Google?
Hello Steve. Wrong analogy with Communism. This is pure capitalism, Baby! So strap in and get ready for the ride. Welcome to your future as a Dataserf for the Corprotocracy.
Meanwhile in Australia I have to rub 2 sticks together just to start my 10mb/s internet and make sure I pay tributes to the connection God's just to watch this vid.
Not sure, just because he presents it as bad doesn't mean it is. I hoped that Stadia is using the price structure it now has. It would have failed if it was a Netflix, but no it's a competitive service.
""ISPs are smart [and] they understand that they’re in the business of keeping customers happy..." that comment right there destroys any credibility Phil Harrison had - talk about being out of touch lol
You don't need the subscription. Its mainly for 4K HDR streaming. The base service is free and does 1080p 60fps. You buy the games and are able to play them wherever forever. The benefits include not having to spend £400+ for the same performance on a PC or console. If you have a nice PC then the only thing you gain from stadia is playing on your phone so it isn't a good idea for you to buy it. Maybe people looking at the price of next gen consoles and have 15mbps internet find the service a good alternative.
No, that sounds about right. "Customer trend" in the eyes of ISPs means same slow internet but higher prices. In your case, they've certainly stayed ahead of "customer trend".
@@Flash_AU i 100% agree with you. By the time everyone has it and the infastructure crashes from the load they will think of a new system that takes another decade to implement. Its the ultimate joke.
@@Nickyreaper2008 _"...and pay full price for the games."_ Games that you'd never, ever have direct access to, due to any number of reasons: catastrophic server failure; involuntary account suspension/termination; user-end Internet communication failure.
@@FourFourSeven Yeah sure. Im just saying his points are not so good. I don't think Stadia will work, don't get me wrong, but this pay for hardware and game is stupid cause you're already doing that.
"We'll get all the basic functionality at launch ... Of course it's not going to be every feature we announced" That answer pretty much sums up all we need to know.
@J P I was thinking more along the lines of Todd Howard saying that they knew that FO76 wasn't going to be good at launch. But yeah, Anthem works too. Or any "live service" game really.
@J P I was lucky enough to avoid Anthem. The only looter shooter worth playing these days is Earth Defense Force. Which I just got into for the first time last week.
And it’s not even like it’s free, gotta pay for subscription first. They should of given Destiny to everyone as a way for them to test and see if they liked Stadia, but at this rate why would I purchase games or buy a subscription for something I’m not even sure will work properly.
If I’m not mistaken they’re giving destiny 2 with all the expansions and the new 35$ expansion coming this September but yea D2 and the first year of content is gonna be free so it’s a bit confusing no matter tho stadia will probably die off relatively quickly
It includes forsaken and shadowkeep which both are not free. The collection is pretty good value, sadly its attached to service no one wants. Ps no crossplay in any way for stadia
I hate how all Ubisoft games have to waste 10 seconds to log me into single players adventures So I'm not understanding why i would want to go from that to requiring good online 24/7
@@CelestialDraconis in oregon for example (or at least my part of oregon), wifi SUCKS. im paying for a gig per second and im getting 32mbps on most good days WITH A LAN CABLE
@@bgill7475 Brazil, Russia, Mexico, Taiwan, India, Turkey are just a few examples of third world countries that buy video games and give billions to the industry per year, let's make them all go to first world countries, I'm sure people like you will be screaming "GeT oUt Of MuH cOuNtRY" before people finish packing their bags 😂😂
you kinda hit the nail on the head with an uber sledge hammer. pay 70 dollars to rent the game, and if they game gets taken off the list, boom you lost 70. think i will stick with ps4, xbox one and switch.
adrenalinex4 you don’t have to buy pro controllers. But okay. I think they are more expensive because switch cartridges cost more to make than discs. Idk
Even if Stadia became "good enough to get into", why the hell would I get into it? I already have so many games on Steam and PS4 that there literally is no reason to drop what I've been doing for years just for 60fps 1080p gaming (which I can already do OFFLINE for most of my games).
Stadia might not be for you then. For those who already have internet and a trash laptop, this instantly catches them up to current gen. Stadia might not yet appeal to hardcore gamers like us, but I know many people who didn't feel buying a new console who might drop $60 on the newest games (at $0 for Stadia basic).
@@Nojintt You really know people that would prefer to pay for a console at $130 for games they have no ownership of, than buy for example an old console on eBay for $200 and not have to worry about any of the drawbacks of cloud gaming (internet, costs, etc.)? That seems a bit of an oversight on their part.
@@Nojintt What misinformation? Google is offering a 'Founder's Edition' for $130 for the tech itself (the streaming device and the controller, and I believe 3 months subscription, which is going to be $10 a month until Pro tier for free is offered next year). Not really sure where I misinformed there.
"Consumers don't have to buy expansive new hardware to play on Stadia!" With what I have to pay for Stadia, I might as well buy the expansive new hardware...
The best thing about expensive new hardware is the fact it is physical and without storming your house they can't take it from you. What if google banned you for something, you'd lose your entire library, not just online privileges
What?! I thought Audible just sold audio books a la carte, you know, like how I buy e-books for my e-reader. Well there goes my interest in maybe trying out Audio Books. Seriously! 15$ a month and you still have to pay for the books? What are you even getting for that 15$? Why not just sell the audio books individually like a normal person would? WHO BUYS INTO THIS CRAP?!
That’s what happens when you overcharge for something you know won’t sell well. Even knowing paying for a full price game with a monthly fee is not worth it.
@@bracertale7727 You are not even owning the fucking games because no internet = no play. Eating your data hotspot like Gluttony. Crap internet = lower FPS. No thanks.
Just avoid the problem and dont buy the stupid thing. I'm sure not wasting any money on this thing, I'll stick to my stuff I personally own, thank you.
@@bluemenace04 For real, Physical > Digital I'd like to keep playing my games, even after the Servers are shuts down as those end up being "Non-Profitable" Fuck that excuse, cuz I'm keeping what *I payed for* ya feel me? Lol
@@KoffinKat Still, quite a large part. The base game, year 1 expansions and a bunch of other activities. If Google are saying they'll also be throwing in forsaken and the rest of the expansions with stadia, then it might be worth it. But at the moment, I assume they'll only be giving away what will be free on every other platform anyway (please correct me if I'm wrong).
cloud gaming isnt cheaper its more expensive than digital and console gaming in general and u dont need to pay a monthly fee on top of the stupid games that they force u to pay for full price and the fact that u have to pay for 4k gaming and this is why hardware gaming will still be number 1 because people dont want to do this ever
There's an old adage in retail: "You don't have to sell a good deal" In other words, if something is in demand, and if you offer a good deal, you don't really need to convince people to buy it. The lengths they're going to convince people this is a good deal should immediately raise red flags.
Now that's just silly. Of course you still have to sell even a good deal. Uninformed consumers will ignore the cure for cancer if you let them. And marketing and public relations in itself is in no way a red flag, but common business practice everywhere. That being said.... say no to cloud gaming! ;)
You would think that this would be an absolute impossibility to happen. Im absolutly sure, that this will be the case if streaming would take over. You just need to look into history and you know that this isnt out of question. Look at lootboxes in full priced video games. People in the late 90s would have thought they are in the wrong movie or alternate reality. Today its reality.
They'll use their content recognition ai to insert advertising 'seamlessly' into the game, and there will be videos recorded of where an important character's face suddenly starts playing an extreme mountain dew ad or something in the middle of a cutscene.
So I pay for a game I can never own, subscription, internet cost, and then am subject to change when stadia feels like it. Sounds to me like I'm getting shafted with very little benefit
@Grant Erickson I'm fine with paying Netflix, ps plus, ps now, and so forth. What I'm not ok with is buying a game then paying someone to allow me to play my own game. Plus stadia maybe 1 game free a month. Ps+ 24 minimum free games a year and are linked permanently to my account. Netflix I don't pay to purchase the show and then purchase the right to watch that same show. Then there is the issue of being able to stream that game to myself and others.
@Grant Erickson let's look at it a different way. I buy a home in a gated community. Then I pay taxes on that home, housing community tax, lawn tax, then I can only have my tv on certain times of the day, to get through the gate I have to pay each time to leave & come home, and then the community authority can also control what color my house is, how many guests I can have at a time, but I'm suppose to be happy because I get the privilege of living behind that gate. Boy am I lucky. If I don't have money on me to pay the gate to open to get home then what? I lose my privilege of sleeping in my own bed. Sorry but I will go buy a house somewhere else
@@mariuszj3826 stadia would still be worse than whatever Microsoft and Sony do for their next consoles. It doesnt offer anything for anyone if you can buy a PS4 PRO or Xbox 1 X. If you cant buy them then you cant afford the best internet for stadia.
@@mariuszj3826 Casual gamers aren't the types to pay out the ass for high speed internet.... Hardcore gamers are the type to do that but choose not to gimp their games just because of the novelty of streaming..
@@Archangelm127 there are so many I don't know who fired the first shot. But they just keep doing the same thing over and over and over again with no improvement but they still want it to have different result.
Future of Cloud Gaming? There is none. The moment I can't play games offline, I'm out. The latency alone nukes the prospect of playing something like Devil May Cry via a cloud.
@Commander Kyro Well, not on consoles, where you can play almost everything offline. Heck, even Monster Hunter World - which you would think would require SOME connection - works flawlessly offline, at least on PS4. That's one of the main reasons I've gravitated towards consoles more and more. On PC, I no longer even have Steam installed and only shop on GOG.
@@ceder8095 In a demo setting with Google's server humming in the next room or perhaps even under the same table, sure. In a real world where there are hundreds of kilometers to the nearest server? Highly doubt it.
@@ceder8095 Yup. What does that have to do with this, though? Stadia demo units wouldn't be using the same public network as the con-goers - that's data security 101 when you are unveiling your brand new product.
@@zzygyy ping have nothing o do with internet speed. If you live in a shit country like the Philippines, having 50mbps fiber internet still give you a 70 to 120 ping because the closest game servers are in china. It's about amazon server location. not internet speed Get educated you scrub
I'm okay with it not being a "Netflix for games", but only if you get to permanently keep the games you've purchased. And seeing how nothing lasts forever, especially not online subscriptions, this means that you'd essentially be throwing money into the void. I hope Stadia rots on store shelves.
Pls talk about the possibility of unskipable ads in the future of cloud gaming. Thats the next "surprise mechanic" of AAA video gaming. why would google offer a "free" service after all.
Correction. They looked at the switch. Thought "How can we squeeze every ounce money from the consumer and still act like we are being generous?" The switch's 2 issues are the joy-con drifting issues and the online. I will stick to using my switch to play games when out of the house instead of this garbage. Cloud gaming sounds cool, but what they are doing isn't.
I honestly don't get it. "Pay us to hold your games hostage!" Also, Harrison must be smoking some pretty good stuff. He actually mentioned Verizon's Fixed Wireless Internet as an example of having enough data allowance. The MAX on that is 60GB/mo for $150/mo. You can add another 0 on the data and you still won't have enough. Forget digital divide, there is another divide happening now. The divide of the rich people living in their ivory towers vs. everyone else, because clearly we live in different worlds.
"I don't know why it would be cheaper" .... well, he will know when Stadia crashes and burns in a year or less, god .. these people have no self-awareness at all.
You pay money for the game, for the internet connection and for stadia but dont really own a game, not guarantee with stable server. Well that was load of bullshit
@@balazstripe6331 all you need is a good enough computer, one kinda expensive purchase rather than 10 bucks a month. Most games can run 60 fps and 1080p EZ, though few games actually have anything pretty to show at those levels. If you want an art piece, sure, go with stadia, but if your trying to play video games then steam is your man.
@@balazstripe6331 neither does stadia, the latency alone looks worse than running a game at 30fps, and frametime matters a fuckton more than the framerate, ignoring the buffering that is inevitable
CEO: Thanks to Cloud Gaming, we have eliminated Game Piracy by 100% Individual Businessman in the meeting: Yes, but you have also eliminated 95% of your paying customers. I don't think that is a good idea CEO: Throw that man out of the window. We need to keep our shareholders happy.
Pretty sure GOG is one of the only services without DRM. Other services like Steam, PSN, XBL only give you a license to play the game; you don't actually own it.
@jimraynor2001 while yes most games get cracked, some may never get cracked or may take over a year to get cracked. this particular type of cancer comes from UWP for example universal windows platform. basically microsoft used their "os" as part of the drm, even not having executables or modding. uwp games while being played locally are kinda of an inbetween, between the easy to crack steam drm and the stadia dumpster fire. so a little reminder to boycott stadia + UWP from microsoft, it's both horrible for gamers, both worse than denuvo + vmprotect combined, that drm shit gets cracked at least with tons of effort.
This isn't actually a joke. You're meming but it's the truth. Just look up the real life DARPA projects and released documents. Google is a hydra that needs to be destroyed
In rural parts of Asia, the Fair User Policy will be extremely fair - one frame per player ... per day. They will even frame the frame into an ornamented sandalwood - for a small extra fee!
LOL imagine this: you are a naughty boy that is toxic, Google will punish your low social credit by limiting how much and what type of games you can play. It's really not farfetched to think this with how authoritarian the left and their corporations of love are.
@@robbay8610 I disagree. The implementation and tech is there BUT (a BIG one) it only works at certain conditions. This means that a lot of people who might be willing to try it/use it might not be able to get the quality they are expecting. I agree the idea is not bad, but so far (more than a dozen of companies in this business offering their solutions) no one nailed it. Even if you do not have a rig, even if someone is planning to buy na next console it still offers more for similar amount of money. Here are my rough calculations. Console - 500$, subscription for online 60$/year time 7 year of console life time Total: 920$. If you want to play on a TV stadia requires Founders Edition 130$, and let's assume that new consoles will have 4K so to get similar experience with stadia you need to pay premium 10$ a month times 12 monts a year times 7 years (to be equal to console life span) Total: 970$. File if someone skips the founders edition it is 840$. the games are the same price so I took it out from the equation. But for consoles you have subscriptions for digital games: EA Access (5$/month), XGP (10$/month) where you have a lot of games to choose from which decreases money spend on games. With Stadia you should theoretically play on any device but we know this will not be the case at launch. So as a person who used OnLive, PS Now and is using GeForce Now (each had/have their own problems) I will say Stadia is not for me, Game streaming is far from experience you get from hardware and to me for years to come hardware >>>> streaming. But this is just my opinion. Keep enjoying gaming!
If you have fast Internet and want to Safe Money there is a Reason buying Stadia for 1 year Will Cost you 120 € Show me a pc that can deliver 4K Gaming for 120€
@@SuperWotman do you really believe those pricks. I mean common dude they haven't even showed us anything just yet. Do you really think these games would be running on actual 4k resolution even if you have a high speed Internet connection. That's bullshit even by your own standards.
@@bonecrusher3248 Even if it wasn't bullxit, there's just no incentive to buy games on a platform that makes all the games you bought unavailable the second your internet provider's hardware blows up.
Let Google Stadia fail harder than the OUYA did. Whatever exclusives come out on it, if the console tanks hard enough and the games are worth anything, it'll be re-released on other consoles.
This makes no effing sense. Netflix works because it's a fixed price per month for the whole library! If you've got a potato phone and a 3/4g connection or wi-fi you're all set. Here you: pay a monthly fee, get SOME discount and the AAA games you pay in full!!!! A PC can be used for much more than games and a console can be bought 2nd hand (along with the games)...SMH
It’s like they’re genuinely trying to fuck over the consumer. “Oh you don’t own the games, you stream them. We retain the ownership rights and we can just remove them whenever we want. OH and we also will force you to pay for the highest data transfer speed possible from your ISP just to be able to pay at a decent frame rate. But you guys are stupid because we are obviously giving you the best deal and we don’t know how it could be cheaper.” It’s already destined for failure thanks to their greed.
They probably didn't have a choice. No publisher will give away their big games for free, because it would cannibalize their sales. They can give google their old/stale games and get a cut, because they don't sell anymore, they might as well get a small profit from those otherwise worthless games.
@@DisDatK9 I don't think it's completely fair to call it nothing but a plot to fuck over the consumer. At least at first glance, the value-add is the ability to play a bunch of demanding AAA-type games on any old laptop or PC or whatever you might have laying around already. I don't consider this as anything viable for moderate-to-hardcore gamers who are fine buying a new console and/or GPU for their PC every few years. They are banking on what appears to be an untapped market... I don't think it's going to work... but I can't believe they think any true gamers will be abandoning their PSPros or GTX1080s for an input laggy, stuttering streaming experience.
I find it strange with all the information google gathers its astonishing how out of touch they are with reality. Makes me wonder if it's something more insidious
Are people really hyped for latency ridden singleplayer games? When google announced this crap, it went right over my head. Who the hell would EVER consider never owning any game ever again?! Man... people are dense today.
You will not notice Stadia's latency. I played Project Stream on a 213 Mbps connection in London and the image quality and latency was indistinguishable. Heck, most consoles have pre-built latency in them as well.
@@venture7486 London. Cosmopolitan central of the planet. Been there once, nice place. The thing is though Stadia's gambit is; "Don't build a PC, get our simpler, easier, cheaper, direct hardware solution, and save money by not having to upgrade! Leave that to us." It's ironic when you realize the places that could benefit from that have terrible infrastructure. And therefore terrible internet provision and speed. For people in developed countries, building a PC doesn't actually take a lot of money. Take me for example; in the US a 600$ budget would be all you need to cover a build I'm making. Me though? I'm having to spend at least the equivalent of 2000 dollars for it. Taxes and all. And I still prefer making the damn thing to relying on support from a third party. But that's just me. You can't take London's example, because London is as I mentioned before, a world capital. 70% of the planet is not even close to that. So I have to wonder; will this flop like Google glass? The dream of any capitalist is making something simple, cheap, that everybody needs/wants. Stadia does not fit the bill for that. It's not necessarily cheap (when you take into account the monthly payments for access), it's not easy to setup (requires infrastructure) and I don't know many people, even here where I am, buying into the idea. Ownership IS important. It is a driving factor in our species, we're not ants damn it. And just for that, I'm not willing to give these companies an inch. Microsoft has already insinuated that Windows could become a subscription service. The day, the second, they do that, I'm going for Linux, no matter how much of a pain it is to run that. Again - my personal opinion. But you seem to disagree.
So I switched to AT&T U-verse from comcast after them offering faster internet and cheaper cable. About 2 years later I noticed my net got a little slower, t.v menu started dragging, T.V signal screws up quite often, and they raised their prices. Now all of a sudden they have this new upgrade with faster net and more channels. Yeah, isp's care...
Given their recent track record with how they've handled search algorithm "nudging" and TH-cam "guidelines", why would ANYONE trust them to handle any of this?
I wouldn't hold my breath duide, I've been living in Hollywood Ca for 10 years, I have helped install Fiber internet into a production company in Hollywood, but neither Verizon or AT&T(who installed the fiber to the company) offers residential fiber. And the bandwidth is horrendous, every day at 12 my internet cuts out for 15-20 minutes sometimes, like clockwork.
The gaming industry has never been so competitive like in this day and age and that’s all google can come up with as their entry into the industry??? They should open up a circus cause they are run by clowns!
@@ligametis Well at least with most movies you watch it once and move on, with games it's interactive and you can play for hundreds of hours compared to two-three hours at most with a movie.
@@ligametis The maximum amount of hour you spend for one movie is 3 or 4 hours... And that is really tiring. But AAA games will need 50+ hours minimum to completely enjoy the experience. And there are "MANY" ways to watch movie in case of problem in streaming device, but how about game?
"ISPs are smart [and] they understand that they’re in the business of keeping customers happy..." - Phil Harrison on internet data caps. HAHAHA k.
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I'm not surprised. The first impression they gave us when introducing it was the speaker knew little to nothing about games, but liked FIFA. They're inspired by the bottomless money pit that is EA's cash cow. They're not trying to make video games, they're trying to stick their crusty fingers into the huge money pie that only higher-ups in the corporate side of the games industry can get through scummy means such as monetization.
I sacrifice some speed and go with 50mb DSL ATT because they have no data cap if you have an ATT cell. Being a big gamer, I would hit the $50 penalty every month on Xfinity. In fact, I had to quit xfinity within 3 months of them instituting data caps. Seriously, I housesat at my mom’s for 2 weeks in June and maxed the data overage on her xfinity. Funny thing is that I used to say there is no way they can institute data caps while pushing everything digital. Americans are getting screwed. I guess that is part of being American: getting screwed by corporate overlords…
I do work in the support of Russian's cloudgaming service. Decent 1920x1080 image stream takes about 5-25 mbts, depending of the end quality you choose.
well they will create a new "stadia access" for like 30 bucks at least
“There won’t be a google stadia beta before launch, so you’re going to have to trust that it works”
Todd Howard would be proud.
"There will be a Fallout 76 beta before launch, so that we can see how many bugs the game has and in case add more"
Todd Howard
"x16 the internet bill"
*it just works*
skinflutey hey I’m here
This comment was gold
"ISPs will know what to do."
Anyone else remember the California Wildfires where Verizon capped the emergency services data to unusable speeds, stranding hundreds of workers with no idea where to go?
That’s a big deal. Can they face legal action for that?
@@josephb.4640 Probably not in US they will weasel out of it some one would have shoot up an office.
If they endangered the lives of hundreds of people, they should at least face charges of negligence. If they did it on purpose, the company should shut down, and the employees charged with attempted murder.
Imagine if they could do this with bigger situations.
@@MrLunithy That's the sad part, but the only thing that would get the message across since corporations are just a blight on society.
Histocrat 641402 if I remember correctly they threw a single employee under the bus to take the blame so they as a company didn’t take any of the legal blame.
this is rapidly becoming the most out of touch industry ever
Thats what happens when so much money is changing hands. Ive been gaming since the Genesis era, and Ill be 32 in a month.
The industry needs a hard reset, or crash.
It can be about making cool games again, not politics or bottom lines.
@@BlackVulcan22 agreed with the crash, the feeling of the need of a crash to give the industry a wake up call
@Hyper Kin Indies are certainly better than they're once were but they're a minority to the bigger ones
"becoming?"
They lost touch the moment it became an industry and started making big money
And one of the greediest
Hardcore gamers won't want it, and casual gamers will either not have the connection speed, or also won't want it.
Powerusers won't like it, poor users won't be able to afford it, which leaves them only mostly rich casual occasional users? Eh.
Seriously
@@TheCrusaderBin more like rich, dumb, casual, occasional and probably hardcore blinded apple user (probably....) 😏
Oh, just wait till they snag some hot exclusives. Thise gave been selling consoles with inferior hardware for decades, they will sell people on cloud gaming. "Hardcore gamers" don't matter compared to the legions of sheep happily taking it up the ass to get to play their "must haves".
As a former hard(er) core gamer and now casual gamer, I can tell you we're not interested. A Netflix model...maybe, but I don't really play enough to justify even that. But this model? Pay (monthly subscription) then pay again (for games) then fight with everyone in the house for bandwidth? No thanks.
It's not just that the world isn't ready for something like Stadia. The reality is that the way it is, no one wants it. It's not made for actual gamers. It's a product made specifically for corporations and their shareholders.
It's more for casual non-gamers who don't want to buy a console but want lets say, NBA 2K 2019 or any other new game
It’s a product made to make money in Japan and China, you know the countries where smartphone gaming is the norm so being able to play AAA tittles on your phone lets you tap into this market
This, it's the ultimate games as a service format. Just anti-consumer shit.
The Juicero of consoles.
Baki you're awesome! Keep speaking out that flat out simple truth, homie.
"You can buy games whenever you want"? WOW! WHAT A DEAL!
I don't think they ever heard about steam....
GOG: "Am I a joke to you?"
Comrade, glorious leader Google has unveiled their next grand gift to the people of america-stan. You may now purchase (VIDEOGAMES) for a measly 10 dollars a month, and you are not burdened by the weight of truly owning the product. Father Google will protect you from your own hubrice, and keep the (VIDEOGAMES) in their own care.
TheSporehacker I’m surprised how many people don’t know about GOG. They’re even owned by CDProjekt Red
I don't think there is any platform out there that doesn't allow you to buy games whenever you want :/
*Really? So now we're gonna have lag on single player games?, wow the future is here!!*
The future is limitless remember single player had MTX's now lol
@@NormanReaddis yeah, it's limitless indeed, nice profile picture btw, lol 🤣🤣
Por supuesto mi compadre. El futuro oscuro es aquí
@@Hououin_Kyoma thanks 🤣
Thats the issue really, the way it works like a MMO except everything is done on server side outside control inputs but that is the main problem, lentancy and that will never be solved since you cannot beat handling it client/local side and this is why MMO despite potentially running entirely server side dont because it just raises lentancy.
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VALLANCE I can see it for the free service. Google is one of the biggest advertisers. Leaving ads out of this might be considered dumb for them.
VALLANCE that’s what they’re really trying to do
@@rika6722 Stadia will have good integration with TH-cam streaming and the like, that's where they'll double down on their ad services I think. Besides, they put ads on free services, not paid services. TH-cam Red has no ads.
Talking about ads... all those who predict the stadia will fail, they are forgetting:
-Unlike sony, google have hundreds of billions they can just throw away
- because they reach over 2 billion youtube/etc users, who are used to STREAMING SERVICES, and google...it is google, they are going to flood all the TH-cam videos and google searches, with trillions of ads, for the stadia.
Today, we type 'video gaming system', we might get sony/playstation, xbox... nintendo... in the first 3 results. When google starts promoting the stadia , the same google search will give
#1 - try the google stadia gaming system today
#2 sony ps4
#3 xbox
X4 nintendo switch...
And youtube...regular youtube users will have to watch 10, 20, 30 google stadia ads, each day.
And like the song everybody hates, so terrible... but then radios start paying it over and over. . And people end up liking it... the same might happen, with the stadia
And let's not forget. .. to google, the stadia is not a race.
While eg, Sony, absolutely needs to make x billions with the Playstation, to break even, or reach their monthly goals,
Google, on the other side, have all the time. They only have 2% of the market the 1st year ? No problem. Only 7% the second year ? No problem... slowly, they will make it.
And all those concerns regarding the Internet speeds and bandwith... SAY HI TO THE 5G ! It's not a surprise why in the US they are trying to implement the 5G everywhere, asap. Because the day people will have 5g, and over 50-100mb of speed, the problem is solved.
@@only4posting also, 5G is a joke right now, nowhere near ready especially in the US. Half the reason they banned Huawei and beefed with China is coz they're leagues ahead in the 5G race. Now US have started tricking people by putting 5G E (Evolution) symbols on phones that don't support 5G yet through the same loophole that let ppl print 4g labels before speeds were fast enough lol.
The standards for internet infrastructure worldwide is still too low atm, it's sad honestly. Gamers suffer the most.
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Oh, Stadia's boss is Phil Harrison? The one person who's been demanding the death of single-player for years and years? Right. That makes me have even less confidence in the console.
Good to know; already gave this a helluva hard pass but even more so now.
Nice info stranger, ty!
This is a bit random but well, yeah. Uhm.. we just want a freaking new powerful PS Vita/Nintendo Switch-like with an enough cooling efficiency, longer battery to play great AAA games, Ps4, xBox games, Nintendo games etc on a handheld console, anywhere any times we want! Pleaseee make it happen big companies! Σ(っ°Д °; )っ
Carter Landis from what i have heard it’s not even a console, to be quite honest it’s actually nothing. It’s just a cloud, you rent a cloud and play on your tv, pc , mobile, or whatever
Xbox really started to turn it around when he left the company. Shame the damage was already done for this generation.
If there was a phrase that sums up the modern gaming industry;
"Whether you like it or not"
Yea and they can do what they like. I'll go find something else to do with my time lol
I have no problem finding a new hobby to kill time I'm close to 30 years old now. so if it's time to stop playing games then I had a good run
Thankfully there’s still options, even physical games aren’t dead yet, so this is ahead of its time. If Google had released this in 5-7 years they may have us more my the balls, but that’s not the case currently.
That's why indies are here to stay for a long time coming. Keeping the pure tradition of gaming alive, away from the bullshit streaming / lootboxes / micro-transactions.
@@gryffehondor4236 Exactly, indies are our last hope and they know it
$60 for internet
$10 for Stadia
$60 for games
Potentially $130/mth just to play games that you artificially own.
Nice.
And yet you don't actually "own" those games at all. Ever. I'm certainly not buying into any of this crap.
So you dont currently have internet?
@@xmalcom650 you know... Internet isn't a one time purchase, but a monthly payment?
Don't forget the cost of a 4k ready monitor and a better router.
With game pass at least I save money. Most games I don't care if I own because after I beat them I usually never play them again. Stadia however is the worst of both worlds. Sure playing on a cellphone or tablet would be cool but then again you'd only have enough data at home or a friends.
"ISP are in the business to keep customers happy." I didn't realize he was doing standup.
I think that's true anywhere in the world, excluding 3rd world countries with monopoly and USA (with oligopoly).
@Freeman319 "Very true in Nordic countries though" - no, they're in the business of making money. Keeping people happy is just a condition to continue making money.
In the US, corruption and monopolies allow ISPs to keep people unhappy due to lack of choice.
Looking at germany and internet coverage.............. ORLY?!
@@TheCrusaderBin Not in the UK as well. Hahaha
@Freeman319 If the rules were different in Nordic countries they wouldn't be making people happy either. It's not a roundabout way, it's an issue of causality.
I'm sure all the cloud gaming players will enjoy the "highest" quality of internet lootboxes in the form of fps and speed tiers.
Oh I'm sorry I meant surprise internet mechanics!
Didn’t think we’d regress to getting nickeled and dimed for FPS.
I’m currently a cloud gamer but it’s only because I can’t afford a actual PC atm. I use GeForce now and it’s decent but it should never replace native
Oh god. This is totally gonna happen.
@@Josh-kx4zo We already are. High performance CPUs and GPUs are not for free.
@Daniel Ryslink *Touché*
Phil Harrison: "ISP are in the business to keep customers happy."
Comcast: "Allow us to introduce ourselves!"
More like the vast majority of isp's
@@agustincampillay7559 Exactly all of them are shit, overcharge for their services and generally act like the customer is fault if their service isn't operating as advertised.
@@Theonixco starlink: yo. dont pull me into this!
AT&T: Hold my coffee.
( makes Internet a worse place )
AT&T: Thanks, I'll take my coffee back now. Your welcome.
Why tf would you get internet with a data cap? Here in NL we only pay for max speed
"Do you guys not have internet?"
-Glizzard 2019
I do but it's shit
*Glizzcon 2019
@ then how did you answer that question?
@@BirdOfHermes83 cause he has 3g xD
Yes, but actually no.
"one free game per month, give or take" -So if you "take" that's zero free games per month lol
Can be half a game!
Bendy Bruce Are you telling me you’re NOT willing to pay a subscription fee so that you MIGHT get a free game? Ohhhh nooooo.
No, but really, Stadia sucks.
@@RanOutOfSpac No, I'm saying 1 - 1 = zero. Anything else is you just projecting
Bendy Bruce Uh, I think you misunderstood my comment. Lol.
@@RanOutOfSpac Oh, sarcasm font, youtube really needs one lol
Well I’ll just put this on the shelf of “attempts made by Google” next to Google fiber and Google glasses.
And google+
Google Video was a thing before they bought TH-cam
And next to that warehouse door labeled "Google political correctness"
Anyone remember that wannabe modular phone from google? Ara was it?
@Vox3l-Gl1tch Actually, it's filled to the brim with wokeness, inclusivness, multiculturalism, vibrant diversity and lots upon lots of containers with stunning & brave gender fluid
Hardcore gamers won't want it.
Casual gamers won't want it.
Its not dead on arrival, its dead before it even left the factory.
I want it. Don't have to pay for a gaming pc or a console and I am happy with 1080. So if it works as intended and I can buy just the games I am in. .
RodriguezRacer 456 it’ll be a suprise funeral
@scordare mate you can add up the cash you’d be paying and it will cost the same a decent pc rig or a console
Scordare makes more sense to just save and buy a Xbox one or ps4 that go for as low as $150 when on sale. You don’t own your games on stadia unlike on console
Scordare good luck is all i can say. Dont lose internet connection
One thing I hate that many subscriptions do is "give" away "free" games. They're not free, because they're an expected part of said subscription. It's part of what you pay for.
I have a similar inside joke with a friend about how hotels don't give away free breakfast in the mornings, it's "included breakfast" because that cost is just added to the room you're paying for.
Companies love to trick people with word play.
I've known people who think something that's free is free because all you do is pay for shipping and handling. Then it's not free you still had to pay.
Yes, the classic "free feature" included in a paying subscription. They love this stuff !
Do said subscriptions even give the games to you? Or do you ""have access"" until your subscription expires?
@@krisnas5004 It depends on the games aswell what games would be given for free or should i say lended since its just rented
ISPs like Comcast and Time Warner? You know, two companies that regularly make the "Most Hated Company" list? Yeah, their reputations totally make me sure they care a lot about keeping their customers happy... LFAO!
Yeah, just like the poster child for honesty and integrity, good old EA.
"I don't know why it should be cheaper"
Well considering we don't actually own those games, it should.
Games released on Steam are the exact same price as retail at launch. And when you agree to the terms of alot of games, you also don't own those games. It's just a license to use the game that can be revoked at any time (which a few games have done). The only real way to own a game is to physically buy a hard copy.
@@ThatLaloBoy
But here's the thing, we PHYSICALLY have access to all the game files and there's millions of ways to bypass their DRM. While it is supposed to be a license it's pretty much a suggestion at this point and not enforced in the slightest.
@@ThatLaloBoy According to consumer law, you own the items (games) you buy on Steam. That's the exact reason almost all games that are not sold on Steam anymore are still downloadable by those who bought it way back when. This whole "you don't own digitally bought games, just rent them" is a baseless myth that got irrationally popular on the internet.
@@noalb3108 exactly, american and most european consumer protection laws do in fact cover these things. If you have enough time and money you can actually take companies to court and basically demand compensation if the company locks you out of being able to utilize the product you bought. As an example the live service games that you pay up front for, if their servers get shut down permanently and you can't run them in an offline mode the company has basically made an artificial best before date on said non-perishable product and can be brought up on fraud charges if you are so inclined and have the capital necessary to go through with it, their EULA actually counts for jack shit and is null and void if said EULA attempts to bypass and/or deny the protection of any consumer protection laws.
Do you not download your games?? If not, how do you play??
There's also the fact that Google has buried so many projects.
as an article said and i called it, it's the next google glass.
Stadia will be the same
Exactly, Google was supposed to bring Google fiber to my city 2 years ago, they announced early in the year that they decided not to move on with Google fiber in Louisville, KY due to complications with the network. This will fail hard..
Yes, I hate them so much, back when they had so many cool ideas they were great and now they are just some dumb conglomerate
Yeah, Google fiber was supposed to be introduced in our area over 6 years ago now... It never was and they said a very similar thing: "There were complications in the network and it was going to take time for them to install all of the cables for it..." then the project just disappeared into the ether.
The fact that Harrison actually said "I don't know why it [paying to 'buy' the games] would be cheaper" tells me this is dead on arrival.
Show's how much they are out of touch!
It's like the notion of competitive pricing somehow didn't even OCCUR to him. Amazing.
Kris when you pretty much run the world, you’re not gonna be in touch with it. That’s just a sad fact. They will keep looking for new ways to exploit human psychology to rake in our hard earned money without any regard for the individual consumer. It’s almost despicable
almost?
yea, no clue why digital versions of games dont launch at least 3 to 5$ cheaper with some sort of method to keep the pricing just below the average trending MSRP on the title. I will never buy a digital game with a physical copy as is, but paying full price for nothing and saving them distribution/shelving costs with zero benefit to the player is fucking stupid. Even Nintendo Club rewards were okay last generation, and they completely nuked that too, which made me stop buying titles I was only so so about in the first place.
1. Never trust Google. Look what theyve done to youtube and privacy, censorship, etc.
2. I like having my games in physical format.
3. I genuinely hope this is DOA
Abso-freaking-lutely right. Project Veritas anyone? I wouldn't let them anywhere near my games.
I like how you say what they did to TH-cam.
In a comment on TH-cam.
Its Ouya 2: bankruptcy boogaloo
@@lonewolf5238 That's a fake.
People like Netflix and people pay for their games.... let's do both!
-Google
"Cloud gaming" for when they dont even want you to have access to the licensed files on your drive.
Always online, always DRM.
Yeah, we want a freaking new powerful PS Vita/Nintendo Switch-like with an enough cooling efficiency, longer battery to play great AAA games, Ps4, xBox games, Nintendo games etc on a handheld console, anywhere any times we want! Pleaseee make it happen big companies! Σ(っ°Д °; )っ
@@emooki886 Ok we get it stop spamming the same copy paste
@@MangoesMan10 Oh finally.. someone did reply! Thank youuuuuu bless your heartttt xDD
@@MangoesMan10 aannd this is if you interesting >>
I know this is a bit random but I hope company like Sony, Nintendo, Apple, Microsoft or other company working together with some company that make "computer's component" like Nvidea, etc, and also working together with company that make a cooling system, a company that make battery for any device. This is because I hope they can made a research about what they do best and merge it together to make like ultimate handheld gaming device with a very efficient cooling system, a really last longer battery life, with really good hardware specification (maybe a ddr4 or even ddr5 ram, - insert a noice and powerful gpu and cpu name here -, etc) and smooth running software lol. For the design, I hope they can make the device look like PS Vita+iPhone xr (somehow I get this "psp/psvita vibe" from my xr because of the *THICC* bezel and the weight lol) but with no notch, just the thick bezel and curve screen like the iPhone xr. Oh and, the games we can play on it including : a mmorpg game from PC that optimized for handheld device, a PlayStation game, Nintendo game, any PC game, phone game, steam game, etc. Uhm.. make it happen someone! Lol
Stay safe and have fun guys!
emooki what the f
Whether you agree with Jeremy from The Quartering or not, he was banned from Magic the Gathering tournaments and lost his entire collection of cards online with no refunds or way to get physical copies because he was mean to someone. That WILL happen with Stadia too.
Really? Wow
I didnt know this. I love that guy
What's stopping them you don't own anything digital.
This is hilarious actually
@Mighty Megatron
Left wing asses are for the destruction of the 1st & 2nd Amendments. Are you "mighty Megatron" or a "fluid sissybot"?
Inb4
Phil Harrison: Don't you guys have internet?
Yeah that went over well ;)
Remember when google quietly cancelled Google Fiber and stopped supporting net neutrality? Most of the US still has crap internet.
Remind me of the Blizzard blizzcon for Diablo immortal: "don't you guys have smartphones? " 😅
Nothing will ever beat running a game natively on a nice pc with high frame rates and zero latency
Or the PlayStation. Those exclusives are so good!
@@kagenotatsumaki
true
Idk, quantum computing is the next big thing. Techs figure that out and apply it to networks and latency will never be an issue again.
@@markbowerii7632 ....... No, learn a bit about it. Network latency is bounded by how quickly you can transport a signal and how quickly you can process it. Both these things cannot be improved with quantum computing in the same way both of these things can't be improved with microwaves. Quantum computing doesn't allow us to transfer signals faster than light or process controller inputs any faster than classic computing can,
@@kagenotatsumaki Those "exclusive" games would be so much better on a more powerful PC. The only thing they're beating are the chances of getting better experiences.
Hoo-boy, I can't wait for Crowbcat's video documenting the Stadia's failure.
Crow's vids are the best
Or the Internet Historian
@Smattless Which videos are you referring to?
Youre gonna be waiting for a while
Thats is saying something since the original proposition was pretty terrible to begin with
oh my god
Subjective
@@mycelia_ow nahhhh, this was pretty bad. From jump.
Imagine input lag. And then output lag. You press one button, and it takes .5+ second for you to see it on the screen. In a single player game.
J Kim I like how some people are so adamantly swearing that this won’t be/ isn’t an issue. We *already* have input lag built in just because of our super 4K HD set-ups. Now add internet latency which will ALWAYS exist, every game is going to feel sluggish. No one is going to play fighting games on the Stadia that’s for damn sure.
@@RanOutOfSpac witcher 3/gta V with input lag would be hell
Jacob Rendall Sure would. Those games already feel gummy because of the “realistic” movement so, yeah that’d be real annoying.
Sweet! Now we can have lag in our single player games? So GTA/RDR2 controls can be *even* worse!
you can customize GTA/RDR2 controls tho
@@TheShaheem123 I think he's more referring to the control scheme and its reliance on sticky aim assist and cover.
"Hello comrade, and welcome to Stadia. Are you having an ideologically correct day? Would you like to confess any incorrect thoughts before your pre-login memory scan?"
"And blood-black nothingness began to spin... A system of cells interlinked within cells interlinked within cells interlinked within one stem... And dreadfully distinct against the dark, a tall white fountain played."
Can I please play my games now Google?
I cannot wait to see the wonderful gamer gulags. Golden racer chairs and ultra-wide 16k resolution.
Hello Steve. Wrong analogy with Communism. This is pure capitalism, Baby! So strap in and get ready for the ride. Welcome to your future as a Dataserf for the Corprotocracy.
@@julianking4793 was thinking the exact same thing!
Nope, it's communism. All about the control and no ownership, communism
Meanwhile in Australia I have to rub 2 sticks together just to start my 10mb/s internet and make sure I pay tributes to the connection God's just to watch this vid.
10 megabit per second, that is a lot compared to my 2 megabit per second connection
Yup. Gotta love Oz internet. The NBN is a truly amazing service.
Hehehe got 500 mb per second. Norway doesnt have scummy ISPs fortunately.
@@sack8439 i mean..... comparing a rich country to an overglorified prison island insn't the best way to brag about your homeland.
@@sausageman4086 Australia is rich too damn.
I'm happy hearing bad news about this thing. Screw Stadia, I hope it's dead on arrival.
Not sure, just because he presents it as bad doesn't mean it is. I hoped that Stadia is using the price structure it now has. It would have failed if it was a Netflix, but no it's a competitive service.
Hater
@@n_dur4n_420 Simpleton
Lol, time will tell so don't hold your breath!
Unfortunately there will be dumb people paying for Stadia and have an illusion of them playing games the cheapest and convenient way on earth.
""ISPs are smart [and] they understand that they’re in the business of keeping customers happy..." that comment right there destroys any credibility Phil Harrison had - talk about being out of touch lol
Indeed
It's Phil Harrison. The guy who was a part of every failed gaming console launch ever. I.e. PS3 launch/XboxOne launch. You can see him in both E3.
I don't even pay full Price 90% of the time for Steam games, why would i pay a subscription and full price to not be able to play a game offline?
But mah ability to play games on my smart toaster
yeah man dont you wanna play at 12 fps at 480p on your smart toilet
@@xSynergized The 300IQ toaster with cloud gaming is only for pro gaming chads
@@xSynergized watch your toaster battery life dwindle to death lol
You don't need the subscription. Its mainly for 4K HDR streaming. The base service is free and does 1080p 60fps. You buy the games and are able to play them wherever forever. The benefits include not having to spend £400+ for the same performance on a PC or console.
If you have a nice PC then the only thing you gain from stadia is playing on your phone so it isn't a good idea for you to buy it. Maybe people looking at the price of next gen consoles and have 15mbps internet find the service a good alternative.
"The ISPs have a strong history of staying ahead of consumer trend"
I've had the same >1MB/s for at least 10 years
No, that sounds about right. "Customer trend" in the eyes of ISPs means same slow internet but higher prices. In your case, they've certainly stayed ahead of "customer trend".
ha, funny quote have look at the entirety of Australia. telstra (the biggest isp in australia) says we don't need internet faster then 100mb/s -_-
@@Flash_AU wait until your forced onto the NBN mate. Speeds higher than 30mb/sec are rare for me nowadays.
@@Flash_AU i 100% agree with you. By the time everyone has it and the infastructure crashes from the load they will think of a new system that takes another decade to implement.
Its the ultimate joke.
Which ISPs? lmao...
Pay for the Hardware.
Pay full price for any game you want.
Pay a monthly fee.
Google go home you are drunk.
Yeah renting games at full price sounds so damn enticing and fun..
Said no one ever..
@@elitereptilian200 _"Said no one ever...."_
Except Normies.
You already pay for the hardware and pay full price for games.
@@Nickyreaper2008 _"...and pay full price for the games."_
Games that you'd never, ever have direct access to, due to any number of reasons: catastrophic server failure; involuntary account suspension/termination; user-end Internet communication failure.
@@FourFourSeven Yeah sure. Im just saying his points are not so good. I don't think Stadia will work, don't get me wrong, but this pay for hardware and game is stupid cause you're already doing that.
"We'll get all the basic functionality at launch ... Of course it's not going to be every feature we announced"
That answer pretty much sums up all we need to know.
He he he
@J P I was thinking more along the lines of Todd Howard saying that they knew that FO76 wasn't going to be good at launch. But yeah, Anthem works too. Or any "live service" game really.
@J P I was lucky enough to avoid Anthem. The only looter shooter worth playing these days is Earth Defense Force. Which I just got into for the first time last week.
Google Stadia offers solutions for problems I don't have while adding plenty of new ones.
Good for you there are some people who cant buy a pc worth a 1000bucks also what problems come with it
"Starting with Destiny 2 being free! Yay!"
Wait, so they are giving a Free-2-Play game away for 'free' and people are supposed to be happy? lmfao
It says Destiny 2: The collection just a little further on in the video. Retails at $40 atm
And it’s not even like it’s free, gotta pay for subscription first.
They should of given Destiny to everyone as a way for them to test and see if they liked Stadia, but at this rate why would I purchase games or buy a subscription for something I’m not even sure will work properly.
If I’m not mistaken they’re giving destiny 2 with all the expansions and the new 35$ expansion coming this September but yea D2 and the first year of content is gonna be free so it’s a bit confusing no matter tho stadia will probably die off relatively quickly
Hey bungie split from actiblizzard and i hear a lot of good things about d2 now (havent played it yet)
It includes forsaken and shadowkeep which both are not free.
The collection is pretty good value, sadly its attached to service no one wants.
Ps no crossplay in any way for stadia
I hate how all Ubisoft games have to waste 10 seconds to log me into single players adventures
So I'm not understanding why i would want to go from that to requiring good online 24/7
not needed if pirated
but why would anyone spend 1 minute to pirate ubisoft crap?!
@@jamaly77 Ubisoft has some good stuff, like Child of Light and the Rayman series.
People: The internet isn't ready..
Google: I can make it worse if you want.
Move to a first world country.
"I have altered the deal. Pray I do not alter it further."
@@bgill7475 internet still wont be good enough
@@CelestialDraconis in oregon for example (or at least my part of oregon), wifi SUCKS. im paying for a gig per second and im getting 32mbps on most good days WITH A LAN CABLE
@@bgill7475 Brazil, Russia, Mexico, Taiwan, India, Turkey are just a few examples of third world countries that buy video games and give billions to the industry per year, let's make them all go to first world countries, I'm sure people like you will be screaming "GeT oUt Of MuH cOuNtRY" before people finish packing their bags 😂😂
Between Steam, PS4 and Switch, I have 0 interest in Stadia.
Plus the whole renting games at full price thing. Nooooo thank you!
you kinda hit the nail on the head with an uber sledge hammer. pay 70 dollars to rent the game, and if they game gets taken off the list, boom you lost 70. think i will stick with ps4, xbox one and switch.
@Patrick Bateman but Nintendo games costs a lot ! more than many AAA PC games.
Black Heart Noire This is pretty much the unanimous opinion on the matter. Save for a select few misguided individuals.
last cigrate fuck yeah theyre expensive and rarely go on sale. plus you gotta buy pro controllers which is the cost of a game.
adrenalinex4 you don’t have to buy pro controllers. But okay.
I think they are more expensive because switch cartridges cost more to make than discs.
Idk
Even if Stadia became "good enough to get into", why the hell would I get into it? I already have so many games on Steam and PS4 that there literally is no reason to drop what I've been doing for years just for 60fps 1080p gaming (which I can already do OFFLINE for most of my games).
Stadia might not be for you then. For those who already have internet and a trash laptop, this instantly catches them up to current gen. Stadia might not yet appeal to hardcore gamers like us, but I know many people who didn't feel buying a new console who might drop $60 on the newest games (at $0 for Stadia basic).
@@Nojintt You really know people that would prefer to pay for a console at $130 for games they have no ownership of, than buy for example an old console on eBay for $200 and not have to worry about any of the drawbacks of cloud gaming (internet, costs, etc.)? That seems a bit of an oversight on their part.
@@uchiuzu23 Stadia cost $0 for basic. Please don't spread misinformation.
@@Nojintt What misinformation? Google is offering a 'Founder's Edition' for $130 for the tech itself (the streaming device and the controller, and I believe 3 months subscription, which is going to be $10 a month until Pro tier for free is offered next year). Not really sure where I misinformed there.
Anthony Kees I would not pay more than $5 a game to stream.
Google regrets to inform you your game library access has been terminated for incorrect thoughts and problematic social media postings.
"Consumers don't have to buy expansive new hardware to play on Stadia!"
With what I have to pay for Stadia, I might as well buy the expansive new hardware...
The best thing about expensive new hardware is the fact it is physical and without storming your house they can't take it from you. What if google banned you for something, you'd lose your entire library, not just online privileges
I imagine money wasted as well if you decide to stop subscribing
add the amazon level bandwidth you need on the cost and you'll upgrade your machine in 1 year
Just put 50 dollars aside each month. In one year youll have 600 dollars, which is enough for a decent gaming laptop
@@rytisliaucys3444 Or a decent game desktop, it will work better than a laptop.
"imagine if Netflix not only charged you monthly, but also charged you for movies and TV and such"
Sooooooooooo..... Audible then
What?! I thought Audible just sold audio books a la carte, you know, like how I buy e-books for my e-reader. Well there goes my interest in maybe trying out Audio Books.
Seriously! 15$ a month and you still have to pay for the books? What are you even getting for that 15$? Why not just sell the audio books individually like a normal person would? WHO BUYS INTO THIS CRAP?!
Audible is such a ripoff I love audio books but you'd have to be stupidly wealthy to afford them on a regular basis.
@@gubzs Meh, I prefer to fully immerse into the book at my own pace anyway. I'm gonna stick to reading.
WIth Audible you can still listen to your books after you cancel the subscription.
With Audible at least your subscription fee gets you one book credit per month. You essentially get one book per month at $15 per month.
Google: I have altered the deal. Pray I do not alter it further.
Us: This deal keeps getting worse all the time.
Seeing as I am old fashioned, I never got into all these streaming services, and just stuck with physical media.
Because physical media is forever.
forever?
you know nothing kid
@Freeman319 "most"
I'm going to Stadia the heck away from this service :-)
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Lawrence Gillespie i see what you did there.... Lol 😂
@ChaosKirby Okay, I concede - it's better without the "the".
@ChaosKirby That's actually pretty good.
@@lance134679 There's always the Edit button
Also "-dia" is also another way to prounounce "the".
"stay dia heck away"
Cyberpunk 2077 will be coming soon, not being able to own it is a grave mistake
I gotta own it
That’s what happens when you overcharge for something you know won’t sell well. Even knowing paying for a full price game with a monthly fee is not worth it.
You realize it's only a monthly fee if you want the 4k? Otherwise it's just the cost of the game. Free online on top of that.
@@bracertale7727
You are not even owning the fucking games because no internet = no play. Eating your data hotspot like Gluttony. Crap internet = lower FPS. No thanks.
@@zhaoyun255 Clearly it's not meant for people who don't have a decent connection. Like, what are people expecting? A miracle?
Just avoid the problem and dont buy the stupid thing. I'm sure not wasting any money on this thing, I'll stick to my stuff I personally own, thank you.
@@bluemenace04
For real, Physical > Digital
I'd like to keep playing my games, even after the Servers are shuts down as those end up being "Non-Profitable"
Fuck that excuse, cuz I'm keeping what *I payed for* ya feel me? Lol
"starting with destiny 2."
Great, so you're giving people a game that's going to be free on all platforms anyway.
Unfortunately, only a part of Destiny 2 will be free, not the full game :/
@@KoffinKat Still, quite a large part. The base game, year 1 expansions and a bunch of other activities. If Google are saying they'll also be throwing in forsaken and the rest of the expansions with stadia, then it might be worth it. But at the moment, I assume they'll only be giving away what will be free on every other platform anyway (please correct me if I'm wrong).
MBULTRAHD no it’s the full thing with the new upcoming dlc
I already own destiny 2 for free 🤣 thanks PS plus
@@MBULTRAHD youre wrong they are giving the entire game so including all current dlcs and the shadowkeep deluxe edition
"Idk why it would be cheaper"
Then idk why anyone would use your platform
TheVince Himself It's cheaper to get a Xbox One and Game Pass tbh.
cloud gaming isnt cheaper its more expensive than digital and console gaming in general and u dont need to pay a monthly fee on top of the stupid games that they force u to pay for full price and the fact that u have to pay for 4k gaming and this is why hardware gaming will still be number 1 because people dont want to do this ever
There's an old adage in retail: "You don't have to sell a good deal"
In other words, if something is in demand, and if you offer a good deal, you don't really need to convince people to buy it. The lengths they're going to convince people this is a good deal should immediately raise red flags.
Now that's just silly. Of course you still have to sell even a good deal. Uninformed consumers will ignore the cure for cancer if you let them. And marketing and public relations in itself is in no way a red flag, but common business practice everywhere. That being said.... say no to cloud gaming! ;)
They've altered the deal. Pray they don't alter it further...
I can’t believe this is even a discussion.
Don’t trust a company to do what’s best for you, and your hobby.
You know eventually the service will have ads interrupting your game
But only if you dont pay 160 bucks a year
In the middle of a games cutscene. GAMER BATH WATER FOR SALE NOW AT 30% OFF%!!!
You would think that this would be an absolute impossibility to happen.
Im absolutly sure, that this will be the case if streaming would take over.
You just need to look into history and you know that this isnt out of question.
Look at lootboxes in full priced video games.
People in the late 90s would have thought they are in the wrong movie or alternate reality.
Today its reality.
They'll use their content recognition ai to insert advertising 'seamlessly' into the game, and there will be videos recorded of where an important character's face suddenly starts playing an extreme mountain dew ad or something in the middle of a cutscene.
Of course, just look how toxic Google is to YT content creators.
So I pay for a game I can never own, subscription, internet cost, and then am subject to change when stadia feels like it. Sounds to me like I'm getting shafted with very little benefit
@Grant Erickson because with Stadia, you're still paying full price for each game. That's why it's not like Netflix and Hulu.
@Grant Erickson I'm fine with paying Netflix, ps plus, ps now, and so forth. What I'm not ok with is buying a game then paying someone to allow me to play my own game. Plus stadia maybe 1 game free a month. Ps+ 24 minimum free games a year and are linked permanently to my account. Netflix I don't pay to purchase the show and then purchase the right to watch that same show. Then there is the issue of being able to stream that game to myself and others.
Dont forget about googles' "hate speech policy". Say one thing out of line and *BANHAMMER*
@Grant Erickson let's look at it a different way. I buy a home in a gated community. Then I pay taxes on that home, housing community tax, lawn tax, then I can only have my tv on certain times of the day, to get through the gate I have to pay each time to leave & come home, and then the community authority can also control what color my house is, how many guests I can have at a time, but I'm suppose to be happy because I get the privilege of living behind that gate. Boy am I lucky. If I don't have money on me to pay the gate to open to get home then what? I lose my privilege of sleeping in my own bed.
Sorry but I will go buy a house somewhere else
@Grant Erickson comepletionist vs casual gamer. I play 400+ hours a month vs the person who maybe plays 5 hours a week
So google is out of touch and making terrible business decisions. In other words, the sky is blue and grass is green.
Imagine a world where you had to pay for Google+ when it first came out
Grass also can be brown and the sky red colored.
Omega Storm BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!
I already have a high end PC and a huge amount of games in my steam library. Stadia offers me very little.
What about compressed and laggy single player?
@@lsq7833 that sure is compelling aight,
might sub to Stadia just to get that exquisite experience.
You're not the target consumer here. Stadia is after people who don't have a high-end rig.
@@mariuszj3826 stadia would still be worse than whatever Microsoft and Sony do for their next consoles. It doesnt offer anything for anyone if you can buy a PS4 PRO or Xbox 1 X. If you cant buy them then you cant afford the best internet for stadia.
@@mariuszj3826 Casual gamers aren't the types to pay out the ass for high speed internet.... Hardcore gamers are the type to do that but choose not to gimp their games just because of the novelty of streaming..
"We will have no beta testing, just gonna have to trust us"
They are really hardcore huffing their own farts XD
They got rid of their "don't be evil" slogan
I don't have syphilis trust me ;)
One word: OnLive.
"Those who fail to remember history are doomed to repeat it."
"Do you know the definition... Of insanity ?" - Vas
I don't think OnLive was even the first, but don't quote me on that.
@@Archangelm127 there are so many I don't know who fired the first shot. But they just keep doing the same thing over and over and over again with no improvement but they still want it to have different result.
Simracer1990 fast recap pls?
lets just see how this one plays out, from a far, safer distance
I work for an ISP. I agree with Yong. They're in it for the money, not your happiness. You take it or leave and they move on to the next.
Future of Cloud Gaming? There is none. The moment I can't play games offline, I'm out. The latency alone nukes the prospect of playing something like Devil May Cry via a cloud.
@Commander Kyro Well, not on consoles, where you can play almost everything offline. Heck, even Monster Hunter World - which you would think would require SOME connection - works flawlessly offline, at least on PS4.
That's one of the main reasons I've gravitated towards consoles more and more. On PC, I no longer even have Steam installed and only shop on GOG.
There is close to no latency
@@ceder8095 In a demo setting with Google's server humming in the next room or perhaps even under the same table, sure. In a real world where there are hundreds of kilometers to the nearest server? Highly doubt it.
@@PenguinDT buddy do you know how bad the internet at conventions is
@@ceder8095 Yup. What does that have to do with this, though? Stadia demo units wouldn't be using the same public network as the con-goers - that's data security 101 when you are unveiling your brand new product.
*Imagine having 200+ping on a single player game* 😂😂
Lmfao.... You mean those people that oddly live on a wifi? instead of just pluggin' into the ethernet.
That wouldn't be neat, but that isn't the case with Stadia...
200 ping.... Reminds me of 56k modem era
@@zzygyy ping have nothing o do with internet speed.
If you live in a shit country like the Philippines, having 50mbps fiber internet still give you a 70 to 120 ping because the closest game servers are in china.
It's about amazon server location. not internet speed
Get educated you scrub
I would burn my pc to the ground if i had 200ping in a single player game or any game for that matter lol.
"I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further."
"This deal's getting worse all the time!"
“Here is a unicycle. You shall ride it wherever you go.”
Exactly!!!
The problem is they don't actually have customers yet. So they are forgetting that people can just say "Fuck off. We won't buy your shit."
@@whatevr99 What?! I'm not riding no fucking unicycle!
If streaming game becomes the only way to play games, I'm done with gaming.
It seems to be more of a console problem imo, i doubt steam will go the "streaming route" so it seems, for now, that PC will be fine.
I always hope that at least Nintendo will stay true to the roots so we have that still if everything else goes south
That should not ever become a problem. Or at least I highly doubt it; not for many years to come.
I'm phasing modern gaming out. My exit point is Doom Eternal and a few Switch Games. Then I'm going retro. Cheaper and better.
I'd be very, very shocked if anything like that ever happens, particularly given how poor Stadia looks.
I'm okay with it not being a "Netflix for games", but only if you get to permanently keep the games you've purchased. And seeing how nothing lasts forever, especially not online subscriptions, this means that you'd essentially be throwing money into the void.
I hope Stadia rots on store shelves.
Everyone: so it's like netflix?
Google: no.
Everyone: Survey says!?! ❎❎❎!
*says:
Pls talk about the possibility of unskipable ads in the future of cloud gaming.
Thats the next "surprise mechanic" of AAA video gaming. why would google offer a "free" service after all.
Unskippable Ads in a single player game. If thats the future, the only escape is to sail the seas.
It’s like they looked at the Nintendo Switch and said: “ok, how can we do this... but exponentially worse?”
Correction. They looked at the switch. Thought "How can we squeeze every ounce money from the consumer and still act like we are being generous?" The switch's 2 issues are the joy-con drifting issues and the online. I will stick to using my switch to play games when out of the house instead of this garbage. Cloud gaming sounds cool, but what they are doing isn't.
I honestly don't get it. "Pay us to hold your games hostage!"
Also, Harrison must be smoking some pretty good stuff. He actually mentioned Verizon's Fixed Wireless Internet as an example of having enough data allowance. The MAX on that is 60GB/mo for $150/mo. You can add another 0 on the data and you still won't have enough.
Forget digital divide, there is another divide happening now. The divide of the rich people living in their ivory towers vs. everyone else, because clearly we live in different worlds.
"I don't know why it would be cheaper" .... well, he will know when Stadia crashes and burns in a year or less, god .. these people have no self-awareness at all.
Maybe they've nvr played a video game?
This is what happen when some out of touch management there.
You pay money for the game, for the internet connection and for stadia but dont really own a game, not guarantee with stable server. Well that was load of bullshit
More and more companies just won't actually listen to people.
Acting like some kind of dictatorship, demanding people to follow.
Hopefully most gamers don't fund it and we force them to make what we want to buy. We are not obligated to buy any products ever.
Nope, I'm gonna stay with Steam which is free and no monthly payment premium BS.
I didn't know that Steam provides you 60 FPS & 1080p for free, because Stadia does :)
@@balazstripe6331 all you need is a good enough computer, one kinda expensive purchase rather than 10 bucks a month. Most games can run 60 fps and 1080p EZ, though few games actually have anything pretty to show at those levels. If you want an art piece, sure, go with stadia, but if your trying to play video games then steam is your man.
@@balazstripe6331 and wait a fuckin minute, stadia doesn't offer those things for free, it's 999 a month. Way to shill my man
@@balazstripe6331 But why would you pay to have it if you already have it in other platforms
@@balazstripe6331 neither does stadia, the latency alone looks worse than running a game at 30fps, and frametime matters a fuckton more than the framerate, ignoring the buffering that is inevitable
CEO: Thanks to Cloud Gaming, we have eliminated Game Piracy by 100%
Individual Businessman in the meeting: Yes, but you have also eliminated 95% of your paying customers. I don't think that is a good idea
CEO: Throw that man out of the window. We need to keep our shareholders happy.
Hey, lets up our internet speed so we can play at 4k!
Said no one ever.
Yea, you even need to get a monitor or a TV that can do 4K anyways and those are not cheap. I'll get a switch/PC so I can play it on the go/home.
@@haaxxx9 4k TVs are like $200-$300 now. Knock it off.
@@jasperfredrickson4420 Why would i knock off a tv if it's only $300? That's cheap. No need steal bro.
Remember when Xbox made Minecraft 4K? Yes that was real
Let’s up our internet speed to stream 4k without buffering issues.
Said every 4k tv owner ever 😊
No thanks, I'll keep buying games on GOG.
Then they're my games to use, not stadia's games I may look at.
Pretty sure GOG is one of the only services without DRM. Other services like Steam, PSN, XBL only give you a license to play the game; you don't actually own it.
Ardent At least you can crack those DRM games with some little files. But we can’t do that on Stadia.
Ardent you do realize physical games are also a license too right? Nothing belongs to you
@jimraynor2001
while yes most games get cracked, some may never get cracked or may take over a year to get cracked.
this particular type of cancer comes from UWP for example universal windows platform.
basically microsoft used their "os" as part of the drm, even not having executables or modding.
uwp games while being played locally are kinda of an inbetween, between the easy to crack steam drm and the stadia dumpster fire.
so a little reminder to boycott stadia + UWP from microsoft, it's both horrible for gamers, both worse than denuvo + vmprotect combined, that drm shit gets cracked at least with tons of effort.
@@cataria3903 "may never get cracked"
Doubt
Stadia is Service as a Software Substitute (SaaSS). If the users don't control the program, the program controls the users.
Like with Proprietary Software, SaaSS is yet another way we surrender the freedom of our computing! Stallman Was Right!
This isn't actually a joke. You're meming but it's the truth. Just look up the real life DARPA projects and released documents. Google is a hydra that needs to be destroyed
In rural parts of Asia, the Fair User Policy will be extremely fair - one frame per player ... per day. They will even frame the frame into an ornamented sandalwood - for a small extra fee!
LOL imagine this: you are a naughty boy that is toxic, Google will punish your low social credit by limiting how much and what type of games you can play. It's really not farfetched to think this with how authoritarian the left and their corporations of love are.
Matrix anyone?
It's 3D TV. It won't work but the industry has tricked itself into thinking it will if they fund it heavily enough.
I always forget that 3D TVs were a thing. And every game had a setting for it then it kinda was swept under the bed.
I don’t know why this was even a topic...
It was obvious from the onset that cloud gaming is trash.
The whole idea isn't bad, but the implementation is trash... Especially when a typical gamer already has a rig to play on.
Believe me there are a good amount of people are going to swallow this
I saw someone says deal with it
That kind of mentality is so sheep lol
The "Netflix Model" might actually work for many people, especially if you have crossplay and crossprogression. Stadia is DOA, though. Idiots.
@@robbay8610 I disagree. The implementation and tech is there BUT (a BIG one) it only works at certain conditions. This means that a lot of people who might be willing to try it/use it might not be able to get the quality they are expecting. I agree the idea is not bad, but so far (more than a dozen of companies in this business offering their solutions) no one nailed it.
Even if you do not have a rig, even if someone is planning to buy na next console it still offers more for similar amount of money.
Here are my rough calculations. Console - 500$, subscription for online 60$/year time 7 year of console life time Total: 920$. If you want to play on a TV stadia requires Founders Edition 130$, and let's assume that new consoles will have 4K so to get similar experience with stadia you need to pay premium 10$ a month times 12 monts a year times 7 years (to be equal to console life span) Total: 970$. File if someone skips the founders edition it is 840$.
the games are the same price so I took it out from the equation. But for consoles you have subscriptions for digital games: EA Access (5$/month), XGP (10$/month) where you have a lot of games to choose from which decreases money spend on games.
With Stadia you should theoretically play on any device but we know this will not be the case at launch.
So as a person who used OnLive, PS Now and is using GeForce Now (each had/have their own problems) I will say Stadia is not for me, Game streaming is far from experience you get from hardware and to me for years to come hardware >>>> streaming.
But this is just my opinion.
Keep enjoying gaming!
Let's hope it turns out like Google glass.
I'd understand if Stadia were a Netflix kind of thing, but you have to also PAY FOR THE GAMES THEMSELVES. There's literally no reason to use Stadia.
If you have fast Internet and want to Safe Money there is a Reason buying Stadia for 1 year Will Cost you 120 € Show me a pc that can deliver 4K Gaming for 120€
@@SuperWotman do you really believe those pricks. I mean common dude they haven't even showed us anything just yet. Do you really think these games would be running on actual 4k resolution even if you have a high speed Internet connection. That's bullshit even by your own standards.
@@SuperWotman its not euros but dollars
@@bonecrusher3248 Even if it wasn't bullxit, there's just no incentive to buy games on a platform that makes all the games you bought unavailable the second your internet provider's hardware blows up.
@@SuperWotman are you simple? How much are you paying for internet? Can't play stadia without it. And you didn't even factor in game prices.
Let Google Stadia fail harder than the OUYA did.
Whatever exclusives come out on it, if the console tanks hard enough and the games are worth anything, it'll be re-released on other consoles.
Stadia not console
mil mil you know it’s bad when someone is comparing your ‘console’ to the OUYA
Oh man, I completely forgot about Ouya since the kickstarter phase.
....I'm guessing it didn't meet up expectation as it was with Anthem?
Nothing could ever fail as hard as ouya. Nothing.
In comparison with Stadia, OUYA actually sounds like a good idea...
YongYea is just so good at gaming news. This is my favorite reporter on the Citadel.
Yikes dude games will be full price on Stadia? No thank you, allow me to show you the door. Not taking the Netflix model is a big mistake.
It's a sign of greed....
This makes no effing sense. Netflix works because it's a fixed price per month for the whole library! If you've got a potato phone and a 3/4g connection or wi-fi you're all set. Here you: pay a monthly fee, get SOME discount and the AAA games you pay in full!!!! A PC can be used for much more than games and a console can be bought 2nd hand (along with the games)...SMH
It’s like they’re genuinely trying to fuck over the consumer. “Oh you don’t own the games, you stream them. We retain the ownership rights and we can just remove them whenever we want. OH and we also will force you to pay for the highest data transfer speed possible from your ISP just to be able to pay at a decent frame rate. But you guys are stupid because we are obviously giving you the best deal and we don’t know how it could be cheaper.”
It’s already destined for failure thanks to their greed.
They probably didn't have a choice. No publisher will give away their big games for free, because it would cannibalize their sales. They can give google their old/stale games and get a cut, because they don't sell anymore, they might as well get a small profit from those otherwise worthless games.
@@DisDatK9
I don't think it's completely fair to call it nothing but a plot to fuck over the consumer. At least at first glance, the value-add is the ability to play a bunch of demanding AAA-type games on any old laptop or PC or whatever you might have laying around already. I don't consider this as anything viable for moderate-to-hardcore gamers who are fine buying a new console and/or GPU for their PC every few years. They are banking on what appears to be an untapped market... I don't think it's going to work... but I can't believe they think any true gamers will be abandoning their PSPros or GTX1080s for an input laggy, stuttering streaming experience.
Politicians out of touch with working class.
Developers out out of touch with gamers.
Etc. ... We are living in 1984 it's all true.
MrKhushrenada the book. It’s true!
I find it strange with all the information google gathers its astonishing how out of touch they are with reality. Makes me wonder if it's something more insidious
Are people really hyped for latency ridden singleplayer games?
When google announced this crap, it went right over my head. Who the hell would EVER consider never owning any game ever again?! Man... people are dense today.
I doubt it's "latency ridden"....
@@agustincampillay7559 Unless you live pretty much in the same state as the server, it will have latency. The speed of light is supreme.
You will not notice Stadia's latency. I played Project Stream on a 213 Mbps connection in London and the image quality and latency was indistinguishable. Heck, most consoles have pre-built latency in them as well.
@@venture7486 London. Cosmopolitan central of the planet. Been there once, nice place. The thing is though Stadia's gambit is;
"Don't build a PC, get our simpler, easier, cheaper, direct hardware solution, and save money by not having to upgrade! Leave that to us."
It's ironic when you realize the places that could benefit from that have terrible infrastructure. And therefore terrible internet provision and speed.
For people in developed countries, building a PC doesn't actually take a lot of money. Take me for example; in the US a 600$ budget would be all you need to cover a build I'm making. Me though? I'm having to spend at least the equivalent of 2000 dollars for it. Taxes and all. And I still prefer making the damn thing to relying on support from a third party. But that's just me.
You can't take London's example, because London is as I mentioned before, a world capital. 70% of the planet is not even close to that. So I have to wonder; will this flop like Google glass? The dream of any capitalist is making something simple, cheap, that everybody needs/wants. Stadia does not fit the bill for that. It's not necessarily cheap (when you take into account the monthly payments for access), it's not easy to setup (requires infrastructure) and I don't know many people, even here where I am, buying into the idea.
Ownership IS important. It is a driving factor in our species, we're not ants damn it. And just for that, I'm not willing to give these companies an inch. Microsoft has already insinuated that Windows could become a subscription service. The day, the second, they do that, I'm going for Linux, no matter how much of a pain it is to run that. Again - my personal opinion. But you seem to disagree.
@ Where are you from? No zip codes needed just the country.
So I switched to AT&T U-verse from comcast after them offering faster internet and cheaper cable. About 2 years later I noticed my net got a little slower, t.v menu started dragging, T.V signal screws up quite often, and they raised their prices. Now all of a sudden they have this new upgrade with faster net and more channels. Yeah, isp's care...
this is getting added to ALOT of future top ten "failed products" lists
Lets hope thats the case
Ouya 2.0
@@martin0499 Move out the way Ouya and Soldier Boy! We got a new number 1 contender.
Finally a debacle that will dethrone Gizmondo as the epicest[sic] fail as a game console!!!!!
Given their recent track record with how they've handled search algorithm "nudging" and TH-cam "guidelines", why would ANYONE trust them to handle any of this?
Google "ISPs are being unfair here's Fiber"
also Google "ISPs are fair and will raise your cap for out premium streaming."
I wouldn't hold my breath duide, I've been living in Hollywood Ca for 10 years, I have helped install Fiber internet into a production company in Hollywood, but neither Verizon or AT&T(who installed the fiber to the company) offers residential fiber.
And the bandwidth is horrendous, every day at 12 my internet cuts out for 15-20 minutes sometimes, like clockwork.
Err Yong..... Phil Harrison probably lived in Google Hyperspeed fiber. Of course he think ISPs are nice toward their users
He probably has fiber straight from home to the datacenter no isp needed.
The gaming industry has never been so competitive like in this day and age and that’s all google can come up with as their entry into the industry??? They should open up a circus cause they are run by clowns!
Yep!
They ain't just clowns, they the entire circus, concession stand and all
Well, look at how much hate youtube gets, yeah I don't need that kind of poor management for something I would actually pay for lol.
I hope they fail. I dont want streaming service to be the future.
I didn't want movie streaming services to become future but some things will change even many do not support them.
@@ligametis Well at least with most movies you watch it once and move on, with games it's interactive and you can play for hundreds of hours compared to two-three hours at most with a movie.
Guys at Google took Kojima too serious
@@ligametis The maximum amount of hour you spend for one movie is 3 or 4 hours... And that is really tiring. But AAA games will need 50+ hours minimum to completely enjoy the experience. And there are "MANY" ways to watch movie in case of problem in streaming device, but how about game?
daAmazin FatB0y same if you don’t own the game I don’t want in!
In the end, these 'tech boys' are going to run their industry into the face of government regulation and oversight.