i appreciate how you were super concerned about very mild radiation in the rocket during sleep but you had no problems sending carol into a literal nuclear reactor to build tiles with no protection 😜
At the end of the day (cycle), whatever doesn't kill them just makes them stronger... Sure they might be stressed, they might cry, vomit, binge eat, break things, etc... but as in the words of ERG, "Don't worry, they'll be just fine!".
Radiation blocking is wonk. Its absorption factor is based on a set mass amount that isn't the typical 100kg tile size. That's why insulated igneous tiles are pretty close to even with plastic and lead tiles. They have 4x the mass even though they have less rad blocking. As for animations, I gotta say, I love the cuddle pip hug animation the most, orbital data is a close second! As for the nuclear waste leaking, I did not know. I thought it'd go through an aquatuner just fine since they don't actively store liquids, just output them at a lower temp. I guess it'd still be good to use in a fully enclosed loop that just has some bridges to keep the liquid flowing for keeping temps even.
if i recall correctly you can make it hold its waste if you flood the building so aqua tuner submerged holding its waste but maybi its been patched i havent played with reactors for a while
for the amount of radiation blocking, it is a combination of both the tile type and tile material. So for the instance in the video it would be calculated by multiplying the blocking ability of the material (Lead) with the type (Metal Tile)
Never heard "Have too much water" in ONI before... Maybe interesting idea to try, teleport water to another planetoid and use it as fuel for oil wells and rest as power via hydrogen route, you can get 8800 W out of 10kg/s.
ECHO IS COLORBLIND TOO???? I thought I was going crazy playing this game cause I just couldn't tell some things apart, glad to know im not the only one!
I am a new viewer around here and I am literally shocked, oni is difficult enough for me while not being colorblind, the fact that they managed this colony so well with so many of the overlays in oni relying on color indicators... I was impressed before but this is next level
Good morning Echo! Glad to see the industrial sauna coming along. I like the automaton setup you have with the kiln and metal refinery. However after seeing my dupe do the data butt shuffle in space, I just imagine them wearing headphones and listening to Elton John's rocket man. Keep up the great work and I cannot wait for the next episode!
22:49, I gotta say, I love that animation too. It's just great in so many ways. Naphtha is a pretty good material to use for liquid locks in my opinion. It has a fairly low conductivity with a relatively high thermal capacity, it also is quite viscous and can stack up to 40 kg per tile before spreading. Also, at a glance it looks just like crude oil, so when making a 2x1 liquid lock it looks like you're just stacking oil, which looks nice. Edit: I added some stuff.
15:00 You should build the spots where the dupes spend most time (research and sleep) on the first floor where the radiation is eaten up by the second floor's ceiling... and use the radiated second floor for the toilet, eating and pilot station.
I use that same smart storage automation for making rad pills. I actually hadn’t thought to do it for the kiln. I’ll have to do that in my builds too now! I think the is my favorite of your colonies so far! Keep up the grand designs!
To get 95C water to 25C requires 5 aquatuners (running on water/pwater/brine coolant) for cooling. Three with super coolant. That said, if you put a counter flow heat exchanger between the water going into the reactor chamber and the water coming out, it would reduce the need for cooling by a lot.
should have built some doors under that nuclear reactor put them on a sensor to open for a bit a day and have a hydro ponics farm under it to get some mutation plants going.
I learned to use a liquid/gas loop bottlenecked with a valve at 1g/sec to suck up the appropriate matters via bridges in my colony of 9 (at 1600+ cycles lol), that could cut down on the electricity dependencies in your base somewhat.
I've bee lurking here sence yesterday, qhen I binged all this sires in one night But I just had to comment for this moment here 10:30 "now we're wasting watter with speed And efficiency" xD Just hilarious xD I'm just picturing a meme with a wink a smile and the ok hand sign 😂
Little known fact, those kilns are deleting heat inside the reactor room. While the building does heat itself up, there is some kind of cooling effect on the atmosphere it is in. You can put a million kilns in an area WITH GAS and it will almost never go above 83C.
Uranium Ore is also a decent budget choice for radiant gas pipes, if you don't want to shell out steel for them. Uranium stuff has pretty decent thermal properties in general.
I'm looking forward to future Echo saying how he should have done ___. Fill in the blank. There is always something that can be improved, but I'm still majorly impressed. I haven't made it past 100 cycles with running into either heat or oxygen requiments killing my dupes. 😅
You can try using the cool salt slush geyser by piping it to the hot places and use the temp differences to cool hot areas like o2 gen or around other places to cool the environment.
I think with the materials overlay, the metal filter only shows buildings as raw or refined metals. I had to search for some specifically copper ore in my buildings, only to find that the copper, gold, iron, and cobalt ores were all the same color, whereas all the refined metals were a different color. I don't think it would be more difficult if you were colorblind, because us non-color blind people be having troubles too. Though it's definitely an interesting Echo-Fact!
You can use nuclear waste to cool your steam turbines more effectively then with water without any corrosion issues. Just let the waste pile up for a little so you can quickly replace all.
I know this vid is from a year ago, but just in case you don't know, there are 3 different colorblind modes in the options. Maybe that could help when you're trying to differentiate material colors, like you were trying to do with finding things made of lead.
Dupes with Rad Eater are rare, and often accompanied by bad traits, but have you considered grabbing one for future endeavours? I'm playing on normal, and I find that they're the best for sending out to scout asteroids with heavy radiation. You might need one yourself for future endeavours.
Why not set up infinite storage for the water and nuclear waste? It’s gonna come in handy unless you plan on setting up nuclear reactors on every planet. You definitely should do that though I know FJ had a pretty cool mini reactor in his last series
The simple reason I always mess up during the mid game is because I attempt using steam systems even though I don't understand them whatsoever. If I keep using them, someday I'll mess up so bad I'll understand what I'm doing 😂
Why don't you just recycle the steam turbine water into the reactor? You can bridge on with other sources in case there is a shortage from the turbines.
Can honestly say that I have never required that much salt and sand as regolith replaces it for all but Glass and the table salt is too much labour for the morale return, but that is the great thing about ONI, there is no right way to play it!
I know you're short on lead so couldn't you have made a 3-tile thick rad shield of a layer of plastic sandwiched between two layers of insulating tiles since those materials are more abundant in the base?
I understand why you need to waste all that water but couldn't you build a humongous reservoir? Just a huge spot you can dump all that water until you need it later.
lol you killed all your dreckos. Just kidding.. it's not funny. I accidentally killed two stables full of stone hatches, as well as the hundreds of critters piled up around my printing pod, cause I just got used to ignoring the "critter starvation" alerts. Then I almost ran out of coal. Never get complacent, friends!
It's principal i guess, he try not to use exploit in his playthrough, because some people wouldn't consider exploit and would prefer find the solution for it, one of the great idea come from another comenter in his video suggest using a whole planetoid as a tank. That would looks fun
Enjoying the videos. However, as a physicist, hearing you pronounce nuclear 'nu-cu-lar' is like listening to nails on a chalkboard. (The dictionary will tell you that this pronunciation comes from metathesis, essentially dyslexia.)
"The world's most difficult game of Where's Waldo" I fucking choked on my drink lol
i appreciate how you were super concerned about very mild radiation in the rocket during sleep but you had no problems sending carol into a literal nuclear reactor to build tiles with no protection 😜
Lol. #DupeSafetyIsOurNumberOnePriority
At the end of the day (cycle), whatever doesn't kill them just makes them stronger... Sure they might be stressed, they might cry, vomit, binge eat, break things, etc... but as in the words of ERG, "Don't worry, they'll be just fine!".
Radiation blocking is wonk. Its absorption factor is based on a set mass amount that isn't the typical 100kg tile size. That's why insulated igneous tiles are pretty close to even with plastic and lead tiles. They have 4x the mass even though they have less rad blocking.
As for animations, I gotta say, I love the cuddle pip hug animation the most, orbital data is a close second!
As for the nuclear waste leaking, I did not know. I thought it'd go through an aquatuner just fine since they don't actively store liquids, just output them at a lower temp. I guess it'd still be good to use in a fully enclosed loop that just has some bridges to keep the liquid flowing for keeping temps even.
if i recall correctly you can make it hold its waste if you flood the building so aqua tuner submerged holding its waste but maybi its been patched i havent played with reactors for a while
for the amount of radiation blocking, it is a combination of both the tile type and tile material. So for the instance in the video it would be calculated by multiplying the blocking ability of the material (Lead) with the type (Metal Tile)
Metal tile mass is 100 kilos? I think it is a mass of tile thing. All material rad absorption is listed for standard tile mass of 200 kilos.
Apparently all tiles just take 80% of the material's blocking %. Obsidian is 75%, and 80% of that is 60.
Never heard "Have too much water" in ONI before... Maybe interesting idea to try, teleport water to another planetoid and use it as fuel for oil wells and rest as power via hydrogen route, you can get 8800 W out of 10kg/s.
Could have used the 95c water in the carbon skimmer to drop the temperature at the CO2 geyser
It's right next to the radioactive biome, which has to be kept very cold. He doesn't want to kill the beetas.
also the spom is connected to the same system
ECHO IS COLORBLIND TOO???? I thought I was going crazy playing this game cause I just couldn't tell some things apart, glad to know im not the only one!
One of us! One of us!
It's hard for me to tell stuff apart and I'm not colorblind lol. What type of colorblindness?
@@James2210 Pastels and Red-Green, anything dark that looks kinda similar could be the exact same color to me for all intents and purposes.
I am a new viewer around here and I am literally shocked, oni is difficult enough for me while not being colorblind, the fact that they managed this colony so well with so many of the overlays in oni relying on color indicators... I was impressed before but this is next level
Good morning Echo! Glad to see the industrial sauna coming along. I like the automaton setup you have with the kiln and metal refinery. However after seeing my dupe do the data butt shuffle in space, I just imagine them wearing headphones and listening to Elton John's rocket man. Keep up the great work and I cannot wait for the next episode!
I can't wait to watch it again to hum along with the melody.
20:48 Radiation is blocked by 80% of the constructed tile's absorption factor. In case with lead: 0.85*0.80=0.68
There it is. Thanks!
I've said it before and I'll probably say it again, but I love your videos. Your video art and editing style are simply mega. thanks for the videos
Thank you!
Infinite water storage: "AM I A JOKE TO YOU"?
Call me childish but the dups farting in the hot tub is pretty darn funny. lol. Good video.
I can barely understand what you are doing, but still like it. Good job.
Love the video man!
Thank you
22:49, I gotta say, I love that animation too. It's just great in so many ways.
Naphtha is a pretty good material to use for liquid locks in my opinion. It has a fairly low conductivity with a relatively high thermal capacity, it also is quite viscous and can stack up to 40 kg per tile before spreading. Also, at a glance it looks just like crude oil, so when making a 2x1 liquid lock it looks like you're just stacking oil, which looks nice.
Edit: I added some stuff.
I like it for the viscosity as well. A great lock liquid for sure.
If only it had a decent thermal conductivity, then it would be a pretty good early game high temperature coolant too...
15:00 You should build the spots where the dupes spend most time (research and sleep) on the first floor where the radiation is eaten up by the second floor's ceiling... and use the radiated second floor for the toilet, eating and pilot station.
I use that same smart storage automation for making rad pills. I actually hadn’t thought to do it for the kiln. I’ll have to do that in my builds too now! I think the is my favorite of your colonies so far! Keep up the grand designs!
Thank you!
I love your videos, perfect narration and info on a game that I will never have the skill to play!!!
To get 95C water to 25C requires 5 aquatuners (running on water/pwater/brine coolant) for cooling. Three with super coolant. That said, if you put a counter flow heat exchanger between the water going into the reactor chamber and the water coming out, it would reduce the need for cooling by a lot.
should have built some doors under that nuclear reactor put them on a sensor to open for a bit a day and have a hydro ponics farm under it to get some mutation plants going.
Great video. I always learn something from your videos!
just finished the mini base series aswell
gotta say im happy to have found your channel
Thank you for watching, glad you found the channel too.
"Sometimes duplicant safety comes in the form of contingency plans." That had me laughing ^^
The best youtuber ever when you upload a video I rush to watch it❤
Thank you very much.
Yay another Max Diff episode!
4:49 Cool steam turbines you have there :P
hey Echo, why don't you just use lead suits? 😉
If that works, we have a genius *Among Us*
It seems the setup takes longer to do than let the dupe just eat 200 rads in 5 seconds.
I learned to use a liquid/gas loop bottlenecked with a valve at 1g/sec to suck up the appropriate matters via bridges in my colony of 9 (at 1600+ cycles lol), that could cut down on the electricity dependencies in your base somewhat.
I've bee lurking here sence yesterday, qhen I binged all this sires in one night
But I just had to comment for this moment here 10:30 "now we're wasting watter with speed And efficiency" xD
Just hilarious xD
I'm just picturing a meme with a wink a smile and the ok hand sign 😂
Thank you for the comment :)
Love the videos. Thank you.
Little known fact, those kilns are deleting heat inside the reactor room. While the building does heat itself up, there is some kind of cooling effect on the atmosphere it is in. You can put a million kilns in an area WITH GAS and it will almost never go above 83C.
I used liquid uranium as a coolant once. It actually works pretty great, so long as you can keep the sauna hot enough to keep it from solidifying.
Uranium Ore is also a decent budget choice for radiant gas pipes, if you don't want to shell out steel for them. Uranium stuff has pretty decent thermal properties in general.
Also you can feed depleted uranium to plug slugs
👍👍👍 I found an extra thumb for this thumbtastic video!
Can't wait for the next update!
I'm looking forward to future Echo saying how he should have done ___. Fill in the blank. There is always something that can be improved, but I'm still majorly impressed. I haven't made it past 100 cycles with running into either heat or oxygen requiments killing my dupes. 😅
maybe its time for a planetsized water tank by the way nice setup for the sauna i am curius how this will turn out
I like the sound of this.
You can try using the cool salt slush geyser by piping it to the hot places and use the temp differences to cool hot areas like o2 gen or around other places to cool the environment.
This is a good run.
Wasn’t expecting to punch a bingo square in a regular episode. 😂
Love these videos ❤
Or, you could just disconnect the intake water from outside and use water just from the steam turbines
Yeah but then I lose the water purifying and the salt.
I think with the materials overlay, the metal filter only shows buildings as raw or refined metals. I had to search for some specifically copper ore in my buildings, only to find that the copper, gold, iron, and cobalt ores were all the same color, whereas all the refined metals were a different color. I don't think it would be more difficult if you were colorblind, because us non-color blind people be having troubles too. Though it's definitely an interesting Echo-Fact!
You can use nuclear waste to cool your steam turbines more effectively then with water without any corrosion issues. Just let the waste pile up for a little so you can quickly replace all.
Hey Echo! Note; metal refineries delete heat due to their input ingredients. Their coolant can be dumped in, but the refinery itself should stay out.
Same goes for kilns and rock crushers, but less so.
You know you could've just moved the bed over in the rocket to reduce radiation exposure, right?
One of the best radiation blockers in the game is refined carbon. The issue or hard part is being able to produce and build it where you want it.
CHAOS unleashed
I know this vid is from a year ago, but just in case you don't know, there are 3 different colorblind modes in the options. Maybe that could help when you're trying to differentiate material colors, like you were trying to do with finding things made of lead.
Petroleum is probably much better collant. Sure, it has slighly lower specific heat capacity, but it has 10 times the thermal conductivity of naphta
At 14:52, is there any reason not to swap the cot and refrigerator? Would save the dupe from a bunch of rads
No reason at all. Good idea.
Dupes with Rad Eater are rare, and often accompanied by bad traits, but have you considered grabbing one for future endeavours? I'm playing on normal, and I find that they're the best for sending out to scout asteroids with heavy radiation. You might need one yourself for future endeavours.
That would be a great find.
Nice
Im very surprised you got a nuclear rig up amd running before getting a double refinary setup, cant imagine waiting for so much metal :D
I do a lot of things backwards.
oh my that water.. send it to another planetoid to make waterworld!
Yep, just as I expected. A single AT can't keep up with 10 kg/s of 95°C water plus the rest of the heat, unless supercoolant is used.
Angryforest being suffocated in the rocket Q-Q
Better animation: dups cuddling a cuddle pip, beach chairs, gassy moo landings
Why not set up infinite storage for the water and nuclear waste? It’s gonna come in handy unless you plan on setting up nuclear reactors on every planet. You definitely should do that though I know FJ had a pretty cool mini reactor in his last series
If I were in your situation, i would electrolyte all that water into H2 and store it, dump the O2 into space.
Hey Echo, you should put in some automation counter with a cycle timer to put an alert to bring back Rocket!
Why no carpeted tiles in the rocket to help with morale?
Eventually, but right now I need to be careful with my reed fiber until dreckos are back online.
6:16 wait how did a tame hatch get stuck down there?
Probably an egg drop.
The simple reason I always mess up during the mid game is because I attempt using steam systems even though I don't understand them whatsoever. If I keep using them, someday I'll mess up so bad I'll understand what I'm doing 😂
Kilns can be automated 🤯
Manually bottle bunch of o2 and release them on the Rocket as needed?
Why don't you just recycle the steam turbine water into the reactor? You can bridge on with other sources in case there is a shortage from the turbines.
Decent idea, but the current method purifies all the salt water and gives us infinite salt and sand.
Can honestly say that I have never required that much salt and sand as regolith replaces it for all but Glass and the table salt is too much labour for the morale return, but that is the great thing about ONI, there is no right way to play it!
I feel Devon would've been worth it as a farmer despite the extra calories he will consume
Isn't there a collor blind mod for this ?
Yes but doesn't work for me and it would make it look weird for everyone else. Not worth it for me.
I know you're short on lead so couldn't you have made a 3-tile thick rad shield of a layer of plastic sandwiched between two layers of insulating tiles since those materials are more abundant in the base?
Yeah, that would work well, although the insulated tiles would be expensive too.
Yes
Lead + two rows of almost anything should come out to close enough to 0 rads.
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I’ma just say something for the TH-cam algorithm because I don’t know what to say and I appreciate your contact. 💙
And then I will say thank you for appeasing the algorithm and making this video a little better
you didnt take the 11 science dupe that couldve been so useful-
I understand why you need to waste all that water but couldn't you build a humongous reservoir? Just a huge spot you can dump all that water until you need it later.
im in the same boat. im color blind af
I don't think "You know what to do" will do it, those 75% will need more effort than that :D
Haha, love the VOD reference.
3 Super dubs challenge when? xD
Why U dont freeze the 95c water
Best idea I have heard in a minute.
I think it is time to rebuild a lot of the earlier parts of your base.
I think you are right.
lol you killed all your dreckos. Just kidding.. it's not funny. I accidentally killed two stables full of stone hatches, as well as the hundreds of critters piled up around my printing pod, cause I just got used to ignoring the "critter starvation" alerts. Then I almost ran out of coal. Never get complacent, friends!
try 1 nuclear reactor with 20 steam turbine
I wonder why he doesn't use infinite gas/liquid storage
It's principal i guess, he try not to use exploit in his playthrough, because some people wouldn't consider exploit and would prefer find the solution for it, one of the great idea come from another comenter in his video suggest using a whole planetoid as a tank. That would looks fun
why not using a infinite liquide storage system to prevent overload
I don’t typically use infinite liquid or gas storage.
Enjoying the videos. However, as a physicist, hearing you pronounce nuclear 'nu-cu-lar' is like listening to nails on a chalkboard. (The dictionary will tell you that this pronunciation comes from metathesis, essentially dyslexia.)
What the heck
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Yes. Im first. love the content as always
Nicely done.
@@EchoRidgeGaming thank you
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I'm too dumb and lazy to play this game 😐
What kinda colour blindness do u have?
Not a single type. It is a blend of multiple.
Yeah... this needs to be nerfed asap. It does not look fun to play against.
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Fifth!!! hahaha
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Nope but still very early
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