After several hundred years ? Not surprising. The Ottoman Turk sat on so called Palestinian Land for several hundred years,not a cheap He even served in The Turkish Army. Scared of The Otttoman's Retrebution Perhaps ? Understandbly. More understably latterly,The Germans and Austrians gave them modern weapons !
The Brits got fed up being shot at and blown up by both sides having been given the UN Mandate. The U N then allowed The State of Israel to be founded,so about six Arab Nations attacked the newly founded State and got defeated. They have been getting defeated ever since,having been attacking ever since,losing in 1973 even though they had surprise and Soviet weaponry on their side and once again numbers At one point the Egyptians closed the Suez Canal trying to involve the world so this time The Brits,French and The Israeli gubbed them,leaving on Uncle Sams say so due to Ivan threatening Mega Death as usual because he did not like The Brits and French.He wanted into The Med. Now The Palestinian Arab trys to involve The World again, this time they appear to be succeeding. Tell me,was it Palestinian Land when part of The Ottoman Empire for four hundred years before The Brits took it in 1917. No wonder Beddu have said to me they are trouble.
Thank you you save me wasting my time. Already the fact that the lunatics are overtaking the assylum..we need Supreme intelligence, wise thought and strategy..certainly not coming from the left
That was no “ friendly fire”!! It was a deliberate and targeted act of war against a humanitarian aid convoy that was clearly marked. Their coordinates were known to the Isreals in advance, yet 3 vehicles were attacked 3 times in 3 separate locations! Don’t make excuses for regimes who have no regard for international law and who hate British people!
@@natalieanna6083 I've been to Israel and found the Israelis to be very friendly and welcoming. The people I did have a problem with were the followers of that religion we're not supposed to criticise - sleazy as hell. Hamas are the worst thing to ever happen to Gaza. The people of Gaza need to be free of them, and the education system needs to be changed so that children aren't brainwashed in every single subject against Jews.
He is already bored?...What he is Bored???Because that man clarifies that this is about Islamic extremists, that makes him bored? Come on, you don't let that man finish just once...I've heard that more from this presenter who thinks he knows what's going on, as a Jew I wouldn't go there to talk again, they don't want to hear it?
Wonder how many aid workers hammas has killed and Israel makes one mistake and people think it should change what hammas did on September 7th. Most of Palestinians agree with hammas so there is no end too this
Wrong, liberalist left elitists think it should change what Hammas did. Muslims are just jumping on the bandwagon, US senates are calling for the Israel Prime Minister insisted to step down and be changed on this one incident, that is the US trying to effect and force the democracy of a country in that region, again, they have a history of doing that.
Taqiya is a pillow. Ask any Punjabi speaker. It's not a 'gotcha' like you think it is. Paul of Tarsus ora gives the Taqiya you speak of... Do some research and hopefully your head won't blow up when you find out.
Let Keith Speak. It is a conversation/ debate that means each person is allowed to speak without being interrupted. Poor James doesnt like to hear facts from Keith. Ah bless.
Keith Fraser: Talks about the history because the history is important for a solution. James Whale: Tells Keith Fraser not to talk about the history. Goub Bahou: Talks about the history because the history is important for a solution. James Whale: Listens to Goub Bahou talk about the history. The double standards are remarkable.
@@josephkamau9741 This war absolutely started with the staged October 7 massacre by Hamas. They created an irreversible situation and still hold many innocent hostages
Utterly shocking display, literally both James and Goub ganged up on Keith and didn't even let him speak.. Then told him he wss embarrassing himself? He couldn't even get a word in! Disgusting behaviour from a host and guest
A long dead Palestine veteran of 1946/48 said much the same to me at eighteen,over fifty years ago. There has been as much bloodshed over there in my life as his, I am seventy,
The T attacks on west by al kaidaa were all motivated by this conflict and oil they also attacked russia and muslim countries that had puppet like saudi petro dollar
This was a perfect condensed representation of the bigger issue which will continue , because the bigger issue is an expanded representation of this conversation.
James Was a shocking mediator. The only person with intelligence, and the possibility of speaking calmly was Keith and he was not allowed any airway time at all. What a disastrous interview
100%! James Whale has just followed the rest and switched sides, its pathetic. He used to have the same out of control arguments with pro Palestine. He really is among the bottom end of interviewers these days.
@@mariadacre9647 I wonder if his predecessors in Hitlers Moslem SS wore Black Shirts on parade ? Al Hussieni would decide,he was Grand Mufti of Jerusalem at the time and Hitlers pal, a Jew baiter likeJulius Stryker apparently,gave The Brits problems in the thirties. The SS Unit was called Hahnschar. Google It.
Why is the Muslim countries not taking any Palistinians???? Give the hostages back!! Proof of life??? It is easy to sit in a studio and discuss people fighting a very difficult war!! Whether they fight or stop there is always criticism.
Simply because they should not kicked out of their home. Why you don’t talk Israeli to Europe because they are European. They will feel more comfortable in Europe or America rather than putting them in the middle of the Arab region.
Every time I watch a debate or discussion all I see and hear is shouting and arguing. I wish I had the answer. So much damage has been done terrorist groups end up in the mix and it all sounds hypocritical. We all know that love and acceptance is probably the way forward but STILL HOW CAN WE IMPLEMENT THIS INTO MAYBE A MORE SPIRITUAL WAY. I DON'T KNOW I am not a religious person but have respect for anyone that has religion in their lives. I believe in a creator and I have been brought up to love be kind courteous and smile as much as possible. Even better if I can make someone else smile and be happy. AND IT IS NOT HARD TO DO. OH PLEASE WHY ARE WE SO INTENT ON AVOIDING SUCH A BEAUTIFUL WORLD WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN X
You want the Truth? Here it is.. if Israel truly wanted a fair peace deal, they could have had it no problem. They have the power in both proper Israel and in Gaza and west bank. Whoever has the military and political power makes tge decision.
Just have to say, if you do not agree with the status quo in this country, leave. This goes for anyone from any background. You or your family were first attracted to this land because of how it was, now you want to change it to fit more in line with your beliefs. There is a big world out there, a lot of it devastated by certain religions and their backwardness. Go make that a better place.
Empty vessels make the most noise. I think you should put this big bully who chatters on and on and on like a dripping tap , put him on your show three times varying the other guests. Let him prove to himself ( because he is so irritating that surely no-one is interested in what he a blabbering about) or maybe he'll start believing ....! that HE is incapable of having a decent conversation. Really would have liked to hear what Keith had to say but he probably only got in about six words.
The pro-p guy did not want to shut up n gv the other panelist a chance to gv his side. The host lost control of his show and it ended up as a pr stunt for hamas sadly! 😢
@@maxbrasil8311 Fairness? Wtf? Why should he be fair? Murray brings facts to the table, which clowns like this Bohou guy shy away from like a vampire from sunlight.
Everyone esle is getting hot under the collar; the only calm person is Keith and nobody is listening to him! Not to mention Keith can't get a word in edgeways!
@@guilmarperez4674 well, let's see. Keith was not allowed to mention this: the PLO stands for the Palestine Liberation Organization. Not "Palestinian" liberation. Why? Because the PLO was created in 1964, and the "Palestinian Arab" identity was created after 1964
@@log_17No Hamas = no war maybe peace don't forget at the start when Israel was given land to make a state 6 Arab countries went to war with them there could have been peace from the start but Arabs didn't want it so war happened they lost and like most Wars lost land so called Palestine was never a place it was parts of Jordan Syria and Egypt only reason they want there own state is because the Jews have one and the Arabs won't take them back because all they do is cause problems with there ideology
Quote from Zuheir Mohsen, PLO leader 1971-79 The Palestinian people do not exist. There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are part of one people, the Arab nation. Lo and behold, I have relatives with Palestinian, Lebanese, Jordanian and Syrian citizenship. We are one people. It is only for political reasons that we carefully endorse our Palestinian identity. Indeed, it is of national interest for the Arabs to encourage the existence of the Palestinians in the face of Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity is only for tactical reasons. The establishment of a Palestinian state is a new means to continue the struggle against Israel and for Arab unity.
@@Myrtle43 The quote explains why the Arabs want the presence of Palestine state. But what about the presence of the Zionist Isreal state? What is the reason for it's establishment? Everyone knows where the Ashkenazis and Sephardics originate from.🔔
Goub has the maturity level of a 8 year old girl fighting over a doll . He should take his emotion out of the debate and go look and the real facts , not his distorted version that he has been brainwashed into believing
James more than once gave the Goub Bahou a chance to propose a solution and even suggested bringing in UN peacekeepers (which would be a solution) but Goub kept getting emotional and distracted from the question being asked and ended up never proposing a solution. What is wrong with him that he couldn't shut down his emotions for just 10 minutes to make a dispassionate point?. Its as if he hasn't got his own thoughts clear in his own mind in order to impart them with clarity and he is just reactive to anything Fraser says.This illustrates why Israel - Palestine have never got even close to a solution. If I was a Palestinian I would feel feel very angry and frustrated with the chaotic, overemotional and lack of clarity of thought being displayed by Goub Bahou. at a very least he should have been able to say to himself "no interrupting the other person and I must say nothing until the other person ( Frasier) has finished speaking. He could have said "have you finished speaking? is it OK If I now express my opinions or views without interruption or disrespect just like I have accorded you ? " But he just couldn't do something as basic as this. Frasier is no saint and was provocative but if this is how the Palestinians have negotiated in the past with Israelis it is hardly surprising that after 70 years they still haven't found a solution and in part they have to also consider their responsibility. Does Goub not read books or is TH-cam his primary information source.
James doesn’t let Keith speak !! The other guy gets too excited . Palestine was not a country , the land belonged to the ottomans who lost their land to Britain in the 1 st world war . It was Britain who gave the land to Israel !!!!
Where do you get your news from? I genuinely wanna know who your sources are because the amount of misinformation that’s been spread into you is concerning
@@Doesexactlywhatitsaysonthetin so, hypocrites? Not being spiteful, but you say it’s not allowed, but it is allowed because it doesn’t take you out of Islam. It can’t be disallowed, but allowed.
What James Whale said about forgetting about the other conflicts is completely wrong. There is a very valid point there. Goub Bahou talks about double standards, yet he didn't want to answer about Sudan and was stalling. It's also what many people on the protests do, they avoid mentioning all other conflicts, as though nobody else is being killed, displaced, raped etc. I wonder why it has captured so many people, because 'If no Jews, it's not news'. Selective memory from Goub as well, as there was joy and dancing at those killed on 7th October, in various parts of the world, not only in Gaza, before any Israeli retaliation. I also believe there were similar scenes after 9/11, so who are the ones supporting genocide? If he cares so much, where is his condemnation for regimes acting in Iran, Syria, Sudan, Nigeria, Libyra, Yemen, China etc? It seems only Israel is criticised and in many ways they should be, I am not a fan of their government, but equally, Hamas need to be rid of as well, alongside many of these other regimes.
I am Israeli and not Jewish. And what you said is exactly the truth. And I support my country in everything it does. Most of those who speak against us do not love us at all and do not know anything about how we live here. Hope she will be judged fairly and not with the hypocrisy that characterizes the Europeans at this time.
You can call us hypocrites? But, your perfection knows no bounds, right? I’m in support of Israel, but your little speech here, is doing what you’re supposed to be arguing against. You’re calling all Europeans, hypocrites. You’re bunching us all together. You don’t love us…..yet, you want love?
The Muslim guy kept getting upset about the Jewish guy interrupting and goes and does the exact same thing. He wanted to take over the whole thing and that fake way he acted like the better man by fake apologies. Manipulation.
@@oneofakind5668 you wrote 'his history' and his history is not as young as the Quran referring to what you wrote. His people have a rather older history of more than 2000 years. You catch the drift?
If only James Whale cared about the British 🇬🇧 ex-servicemen protecting the aid workers, killed by the IDF as he does about Israeli 🇮🇱 hostages: John Chapman 🇬🇧 James Henderson 🇬🇧 James Kirby 🇬🇧
Clearly we see that these pro Palestinians have no manners! They’re too aggressive! They all bark and the viewers cannot hear anything! All because they want to prove their point. but it’s not working! Bahou should change his behaviour… he is not a 4 years old! 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
Between the 4th and 5th centuries, the region WAS majority Christian and would remain so until the 11th century, however, with the Muslim conquest of the Byzantine Levant in the 7th century, the region gradually began to be Arabized and Islamized as a result of local conversion and acculturation combined with Arab Muslim settlement. This ultimately led to the creation of an Arab Muslim population, which, despite being considerably smaller than the area's population in late antiquity, would go on to become the region's main religious group beginning in the Middle Ages and lasting until the 20th century.
19:33 'Hamas is not the problem; Hamas is a symptom of the problem - being an illegal occupation.' And German threats and actions in the 1930s were a symptom of the German nationalities problem in Czechoslovakia and Poland. And the Ukraine war now is a symptom of the Russian nationalities problem in Crimea and Donbas. Hamas is not a symptom of the problem. Hamas is the problem.
That land was never, ever a country/ nation called Palestine!! It was a territory occupied by many occupiers.. But it was never a Palestinian nation, with a Palestinian language, culture, king or PM!!!!! Ever!!!!
This Goub dude and James ganged up on Ash whenever he countered the argument that Israel is entirely to blame for the conflict. So, because Ash isn't there they bullied Keith and Keith wasn't allowed to make his point. Instead Keith was told to shut up and told it was his fault that the argument got out of hand. These debates about the Israel Palestine conflict are always become heated because one side is always unreasonable, and I'm sorry to any pro-palestine people commenting here, but the pro-palestine guest is the unreasonable one in these debates. Though, that doesn't mean I don't agree the Palestinian people in Gaza have suffered the most, from the brutal indoctrination and treatment of Hamas.
@@Ondolite you don't even know me first of all, and secondly I was making the point that these pro-palestine people on TV are hurting the Palestinian people who are really suffering. So why am I pathetic for being reasonable and stating my opinion?
It's not hamas that is killing so many innocent women and children though is it, ad its not hamas that's restricting water and food to get to the Palestinians, it's israel
@@mrror8933 Talking tough from your moms basement because you think you wouldn’t have to answer for your words but you’ll get caught slipping somewhere
There doesn’t have to be agreement between the two sides, Hamas started this round of war and has been smashed to pieces like all the other times, the Palestinians have lost and have no bargaining chips other than the hostages they took. Victors have no need to negotiate with the defeated. Ps is Goub aware that tattoos are haram, hes such a good Muslim.
This host is literally trying to depict that just because both of these guest aren't reasoning with 1 another, then Peace in the middle East is not going to happen...suggesting that both sides aren't willing to come to the table and talk so nothing is going to change. That things should just carry on the way they have, that's it, the end... He's doing this just so he doesn't have to condemn Israel and what they have done...
This Goub guy is SOOO rude! keeps interrupting, pushing his hands in to Keith's face and saying empty slogans like "I am a friend of the Jews"... "All we want is justice"... what is your damn solution?
Hey USA was donating tax payers money to UNRWA and supports the Palestinian refugees in USA with welfare checks. ...Hopefully not much longer when Trump is elected President again
On behalf of all palestinians, Arabs etc I apologize for Keith Sorry Keith😢😢😢 What Keith just repeated on the mouth of the ones claiming being HAMAS assured me that no way they are HAMAS but again someone has Islam as a target mission Omg! The ones who are acting HAMAS and forcing their mercenary actions on Islam is absurd Islam is not supposed to deffend itself at all A religion which will live proud forever, keep that in mind What matters now are z souls dying for a small spot of land, killing savagely one another, where z planet may fit them all😢😢😢 Unbelievable we r ridiculous as humans , aren't we
Goub Bahou is the worst he always interrupts everyone that debates with him then tries to gas light them that he wants to be friends and he has nothing against he does this everytime he get emotional then tries to blame other person and plays the victim card
His finger was pointing out but actualy it was the pen in his hand that poked Goub, I watched it a couple of times to check, yes it was the pen, have another look
"Don't poke me with that pen ever again" 🤣 That obviously didn't cross his mind when somebody poked his left arm with a pen 🤣 How even children are being radicalised is easy: Farfour, the Hamas Mouse. I'm totally with Keith Fraser, as the the statement "Today we get the Saturday people and then we go for the Sunday people" is becoming more frequent and louder.
This was a total waste of time.
After several hundred years ? Not surprising. The Ottoman Turk sat on so called Palestinian Land for several hundred years,not a cheap He even served in The Turkish Army. Scared of The Otttoman's Retrebution Perhaps ?
Understandbly. More understably latterly,The Germans and Austrians gave them modern weapons !
and human life , let's not forget.
The one thing James Whale doesn't have much of.
@@philiprufus4427Pure irrelevant fantasy.
Very rude host. Lecturing his guest on politeness when he himself is a prat.
Rude.
Really? I didn't see and hear it that way. Perhaps you'd like to borrow my hearing aids & glasses?
Go and repair india first. Then interfere in other countries.
@@ajarnwordsmith628 Looks like you need to keep them and use them
Hes just very immature. Hes like a toddler
These 'debates' never go anywhere. James is not a good moderator.
The Brits got fed up being shot at and blown up by both sides having been given the UN Mandate.
The U N then allowed The State of Israel to be founded,so about six Arab Nations attacked the newly founded State
and got defeated. They have been getting defeated ever since,having been attacking ever since,losing in 1973 even though they had surprise and Soviet weaponry on their side and once again numbers
At one point the Egyptians closed the Suez Canal trying to involve the world so this time The Brits,French and The Israeli gubbed them,leaving on Uncle Sams say so due to Ivan threatening Mega Death as usual because he did not like The Brits and French.He wanted into The Med. Now The Palestinian Arab trys to involve The World again, this time they appear to be succeeding. Tell me,was it Palestinian Land when part of The Ottoman Empire for four hundred years before The Brits took it in 1917. No wonder Beddu have said to me they are trouble.
He is the worst
@@treeoflife7945
Agreed. Awful host
Moderator not important.
He's full of hot air. He's never been very smart
Throughout James simply didn't allow Keith to go beyond a few words before rudely interrupting. No wonder the chat got nowhere
I don't know who this James Whale bloke is but he constantly tells his offsider to shut up. He is rude IMHO.
Cos' Keith stinks
Keith's the one that's got interrupting to a t 😂
@@angelau1194 He calls himself a broadcaster….had shows on radio for 40yrs, always behaved the same….ignorant, and expect he will always be the same
Positively the worst interview I've seen for a long time. Everybody is shouting everybody down. Pathetic. No wonder we have war
UK talk shows turing into Indian talk shows.
@@_NoobPlayingGamesnobody was indian here mate
This show is always like this.
@@mrdaydate go watch a clip from indian talk show, then you'll understand what I meant
Thank you you save me wasting my time. Already the fact that the lunatics are overtaking the assylum..we need Supreme intelligence, wise thought and strategy..certainly not coming from the left
Until Palestinians kick HAMMAS out NO MUSLIM CAN SAY A DAMN WORD
17,36 Islam and reason why we must ban it from our shores.
shame that you never listen Mr Whale
Take my hat off to Keith for keeping his cool surrounded by these two idiots
LIER is always calm and cool.
James Whale is talking nonsense. "Proper" soldiers DO make that mistake repeatedly - it's usually known as 'friendly fire'.
James is reasonable without his lunatic co-host.
That was no “ friendly fire”!!
It was a deliberate and targeted act of war against a humanitarian aid convoy that was clearly marked.
Their coordinates were known to the Isreals in advance, yet 3 vehicles were attacked 3 times in 3 separate locations!
Don’t make excuses for regimes who have no regard for international law and who hate British people!
@@natalieanna6083 I've been to Israel and found the Israelis to be very friendly and welcoming. The people I did have a problem with were the followers of that religion we're not supposed to criticise - sleazy as hell. Hamas are the worst thing to ever happen to Gaza. The people of Gaza need to be free of them, and the education system needs to be changed so that children aren't brainwashed in every single subject against Jews.
@@kalishakta Ash isn't the lunatic.
Exactly. Well said. This was friendly fire and sadly is inevitable in the horrors of war.
He is already bored?...What he is Bored???Because that man clarifies that this is about Islamic extremists, that makes him bored? Come on, you don't let that man finish just once...I've heard that more from this presenter who thinks he knows what's going on, as a Jew I wouldn't go there to talk again, they don't want to hear it?
James Whale is terrible at what he does...Im not even going to bother with listening to him ever again
Wonder how many aid workers hammas has killed and Israel makes one mistake and people think it should change what hammas did on September 7th. Most of Palestinians agree with hammas so there is no end too this
You are clearly Evil
None
you make things up. and you thought process is without any logic.
Wrong, liberalist left elitists think it should change what Hammas did. Muslims are just jumping on the bandwagon, US senates are calling for the Israel Prime Minister insisted to step down and be changed on this one incident, that is the US trying to effect and force the democracy of a country in that region, again, they have a history of doing that.
One mistake 😂
"The Jews are my friends" 😂 MAJOR TAQQIYA right there! 😂
He agnostic not shia
Taqiya is a pillow. Ask any Punjabi speaker.
It's not a 'gotcha' like you think it is.
Paul of Tarsus ora gives the Taqiya you speak of...
Do some research and hopefully your head won't blow up when you find out.
That guy with the tattoos is lying threw his teeth
at least he admits a universal humanity the other guy just blames muslims
Let Keith Speak. It is a conversation/ debate that means each person is allowed to speak without being interrupted. Poor James doesnt like to hear facts from Keith. Ah bless.
Facts from Keith.. 😂😂
Keith Fraser: Talks about the history because the history is important for a solution.
James Whale: Tells Keith Fraser not to talk about the history.
Goub Bahou: Talks about the history because the history is important for a solution.
James Whale: Listens to Goub Bahou talk about the history.
The double standards are remarkable.
🎉they think everyone buys the narrative it started on oct 7
@@josephkamau9741i know right! when in reality it started in 1948
@@josephkamau9741 This war absolutely started with the staged October 7 massacre by Hamas. They created an irreversible situation and still hold many innocent hostages
@@mrdaydateIt started when the Arabs started terrorising Jews and Christians under Ottoman occupation.
More like the not prophet muhammad @@sandyg8041
This is Rupert Murdoch's channel it's ridiculously biased
GOD gave the Israelites the land
🥱 usual lies and bullshit 🥱🥱
Utterly shocking display, literally both James and Goub ganged up on Keith and didn't even let him speak.. Then told him he wss embarrassing himself? He couldn't even get a word in! Disgusting behaviour from a host and guest
Always the victim eh?
@Bambi_got_high Yeah, talking points memos help with 'moral clarity'. Decide your talking points and then brand them.
Agreed because Keith is totally wrong
@@sagamigawaville Palestinians? Arab Muslims? Who are you referring to?
@@hadror13 the cope....
Terrible that Keith wasn’t allowed to speak and kept getting talked over.
how
Because he had nothing interesting to say! Keith was just repeating Israel talking points.
We all heard the propaganda talking points over amd over. Did you really need to hear him repeat them?
Because he was debating a child who was not interested in debating only arguing and personally attacking him like a moronic toerag😂
This Muslim just shows you what Islam is all about
He literally said he was agnostic..
lol, this man.
Like you would know about Islam 😂😂
he said that's he in the first place a human being..
@@XTRAIT-em4rx what is "taqiyya"?
These people HATE each other and they are never going to live together in peace.
A long dead Palestine veteran of 1946/48 said much the same to me at eighteen,over fifty years ago.
There has been as much bloodshed over there in my life as his, I am seventy,
The European Jews turned in Palestine.
Eh, no one side. There's pure hatred racism. The other side is forced into evil situations
The T attacks on west by al kaidaa were all motivated by this conflict and oil they also attacked russia and muslim countries that had puppet like saudi petro dollar
This was a perfect condensed representation of the bigger issue which will continue , because the bigger issue is an expanded representation of this conversation.
Mossab The Green Prince has the answer your looking for he says firstly Israel must finish off hamas
James Was a shocking mediator. The only person with intelligence, and the possibility of speaking calmly was Keith and he was not allowed any airway time at all. What a disastrous interview
100%! James Whale has just followed the rest and switched sides, its pathetic. He used to have the same out of control arguments with pro Palestine. He really is among the bottom end of interviewers these days.
¹1
This Man with Black shirt is Impossible..he is too sick
I wonder why!
@mariadacre9647 when they follow Satan
????@@MitchObriens Sounds good mate but to bad its far from the truth. as salaam wa laikum
@@MitchObriens ...Well spotted pal.
@@mariadacre9647 I wonder if his predecessors in Hitlers Moslem SS wore Black Shirts on parade ?
Al Hussieni would decide,he was Grand Mufti of Jerusalem at the time and Hitlers pal, a Jew baiter likeJulius Stryker apparently,gave The Brits problems in the thirties. The SS Unit was called Hahnschar. Google It.
Why is the Muslim countries not taking any Palistinians???? Give the hostages back!! Proof of life???
It is easy to sit in a studio and discuss people fighting a very difficult war!!
Whether they fight or stop there is always criticism.
Jordan threw them out, Lebanon fought a war with them, and Egypt which is where Hamas originated, dont want to allow ant refugees in.
Simply because they should not kicked out of their home. Why you don’t talk Israeli to Europe because they are European. They will feel more comfortable in Europe or America rather than putting them in the middle of the Arab region.
bc they would lose their little homeland that is left for good. israel wants to grab it all. pure gried.
@@Malakhi3Kuwait deported thousands as well.
Every where Palestinians go their trouble.
Why European don't take the Israelies
Every time I watch a debate or discussion all I see and hear is shouting and arguing. I wish I had the answer. So much damage has been done terrorist groups end up in the mix and it all sounds hypocritical. We all know that love and acceptance is probably the way forward but STILL HOW CAN WE IMPLEMENT THIS INTO MAYBE A MORE SPIRITUAL WAY. I DON'T KNOW I am not a religious person but have respect for anyone that has religion in their lives. I believe in a creator and I have been brought up to love be kind courteous and smile as much as possible. Even better if I can make someone else smile and be happy. AND IT IS NOT HARD TO DO. OH PLEASE WHY ARE WE SO INTENT ON AVOIDING SUCH A BEAUTIFUL WORLD WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN X
This just proves you won’t get peace 🤔
You want the Truth? Here it is.. if Israel truly wanted a fair peace deal, they could have had it no problem. They have the power in both proper Israel and in Gaza and west bank. Whoever has the military and political power makes tge decision.
No Ash? (busy making a very long coffee) I thought his role here was to defend Israel regardless of whatever they do !
After the show quickly descended into farce the last time man in black was on, I think Ash was smart enough to stay away
You can’t defend the indefensible
@@AyshaA-ml2rd very out of character for him !
Yes james wasn't getting his tug under the table
Just have to say, if you do not agree with the status quo in this country, leave. This goes for anyone from any background. You or your family were first attracted to this land because of how it was, now you want to change it to fit more in line with your beliefs. There is a big world out there, a lot of it devastated by certain religions and their backwardness. Go make that a better place.
Who is even talking about this country? The topic is the Israel genocide of Palestinians. No one is even talking about the UK.
?? Your reply is not clear
Spot on loonytoons
@itube027Pure fantasy and lies
Ridiculous and sad.
Looneytoons Yes definitely please go back to either the backwards UK and backwards USA and make it better 🎉🎉🎉
When bullies are going to learn how to debate?!
I also wouldn't believe anything that comes out of Hamas's mouth.
Can you give me examples of something they said and you don’t believe?
Everything.
@@shirleystein2347 Israel been lying for years
@@shirleystein2347 hahah okay
@@shirleystein2347that's a no to his question then.
There was only one person shouting here. The loud bully in black clothing. Poor Keith couldn't get a word in edgeways and James
Poor Keith🤣
😂😂😂
Keith was incredibly boring to listen to. He was just repeating Israeli talking points.
Keith was silenced because he was embarrassing himself. There’s a difference
Empty vessels make the most noise. I think you should put this big bully who chatters on and on and on like a dripping tap , put him on your show three times varying the other guests. Let him prove to himself ( because he is so irritating that surely no-one is interested in what he a blabbering about) or maybe he'll start believing ....! that HE is incapable of having a decent conversation.
Really would have liked to hear what Keith had to say but he probably only got in about six words.
Ridiculous
The only one with a brain in that discussion if that’s what you can call it
@@MichelleSachs-p7x the big bully (who says he is "agnostic") was awfully triggered by the mention of Islamist extremism. Do you know why?
Keith was an utter embarrassment lol
I guess you don’t like to hear the truth because the truth always irritates people like you.
The pro-p guy did not want to shut up n gv the other panelist a chance to gv his side. The host lost control of his show and it ended up as a pr stunt for hamas sadly! 😢
That pro israel guy wants to be allowed to lie
why is goub so interested in palestine if he is an agnostic kuwati, he clealry has other motives
because he is a human
Because he cares!!
One of the worst interviews ive ever seen.
Every interview that has Bahou on are car crash interviews.
Should get Douglas Murray on to dabate Bohou.
Peterthepoopscott2104... simply because so called Bahou can see through all the propaganda dribble that clown is spouting...
@@guilmarperez4674
Open your eyes. There is propaganda on both sides. There’s also facts.
ps. Grow up
Yeah cos Douglas Murray is just the paradigm of fairness 😂
@@maxbrasil8311 Fairness? Wtf? Why should he be fair? Murray brings facts to the table, which clowns like this Bohou guy shy away from like a vampire from sunlight.
Yes Bohou will not last a minute with Douglas Murray.
Everyone esle is getting hot under the collar; the only calm person is Keith and nobody is listening to him! Not to mention Keith can't get a word in edgeways!
Being calm does not make yoo right
@@Ondolite ok. What did Keith say that was wrong?
@@rywt4zc I did not refer to Keith being wrong so......
@@Ondolite ok. No problem. That's just how I interpreted your comment "Being calm does not make yoo right"
@@rywt4zc Your imagination is your own issue.
This 'calm wins' stuff is a silly American import.
James was bloody useless, he didn't give Keith any time to talk
I'm disgusted with James here
Simonclare001 the Dumbest, simply because even Dumb Dumb James could tell that Dumber Keith was talking out of his posterior ...
@@guilmarperez4674 well, let's see. Keith was not allowed to mention this: the PLO stands for the Palestine Liberation Organization. Not "Palestinian" liberation. Why? Because the PLO was created in 1964, and the "Palestinian Arab" identity was created after 1964
Really???
Cs Keith was talking outta his ass
Hamas is the problem
Then u are clueless or willfully ignorant
And Bibi FUNDED them LOLOLOL
Your bad breath is the proplem
If Kkhhamas is THE problem, then why the West Bank not conflict free??
@@log_17No Hamas = no war maybe peace don't forget at the start when Israel was given land to make a state 6 Arab countries went to war with them there could have been peace from the start but Arabs didn't want it so war happened they lost and like most Wars lost land so called Palestine was never a place it was parts of Jordan Syria and Egypt only reason they want there own state is because the Jews have one and the Arabs won't take them back because all they do is cause problems with there ideology
Quote from Zuheir Mohsen, PLO leader 1971-79
The Palestinian people do not exist. There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are part of one people, the Arab nation. Lo and behold, I have relatives with Palestinian, Lebanese, Jordanian and Syrian citizenship. We are one people. It is only for political reasons that we carefully endorse our Palestinian identity. Indeed, it is of national interest for the Arabs to encourage the existence of the Palestinians in the face of Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity is only for tactical reasons. The establishment of a Palestinian state is a new means to continue the struggle against Israel and for Arab unity.
The same can be said about the Askhenazis and Sephardics, dear 🤣, which the whole world knows.🔔
@@THESURAFELB
What are you talking about?
It’s a quote from a plo leader.
Read it again.
@@Myrtle43 The quote explains why the Arabs want the presence of Palestine state. But what about the presence of the Zionist Isreal state? What is the reason for it's establishment? Everyone knows where the Ashkenazis and Sephardics originate from.🔔
It is not Netanyahu!!! It’s Hamas!
Goub has the maturity level of a 8 year old girl fighting over a doll . He should take his emotion out of the debate and go look and the real facts , not his distorted version that he has been brainwashed into believing
Which part wasn't factual?
Sure you haven't been brain washed 😉
totally agree with you, he literally exploded every time the other debater speaks
Emotion is an intrinsic human quality.
Limited, backward rubbish like yoo is the problem.
@@hakunamatatatata trying to deny Islamist extremism
This tattooed sack of cottage cheese was completely terrible
😅😅😅😅Well said!!! I love your description!!!!!
The goal is sharia law. Plain and simple.
James more than once gave the Goub Bahou a chance to propose a solution and even suggested bringing in UN peacekeepers (which would be a solution) but Goub kept getting emotional and distracted from the question being asked and ended up never proposing a solution. What is wrong with him that he couldn't shut down his emotions for just 10 minutes to make a dispassionate point?. Its as if he hasn't got his own thoughts clear in his own mind in order to impart them with clarity and he is just reactive to anything Fraser says.This illustrates why Israel - Palestine have never got even close to a solution. If I was a Palestinian I would feel feel very angry and frustrated with the chaotic, overemotional and lack of clarity of thought being displayed by Goub Bahou. at a very least he should have been able to say to himself "no interrupting the other person and I must say nothing until the other person ( Frasier) has finished speaking. He could have said "have you finished speaking? is it OK If I now express my opinions or views without interruption or disrespect just like I have accorded you ? " But he just couldn't do something as basic as this. Frasier is no saint and was provocative but if this is how the Palestinians have negotiated in the past with Israelis it is hardly surprising that after 70 years they still haven't found a solution and in part they have to also consider their responsibility. Does Goub not read books or is TH-cam his primary information source.
Theres no point interviews people like this, they dont believe in manners, logic or fairness
Not THEY, only Goub the gob.
James doesn’t let Keith speak !! The other guy gets too excited . Palestine was not a country , the land belonged to the ottomans who lost their land to Britain in the 1 st world war . It was Britain who gave the land to Israel !!!!
And created a monster.
no, palestine was ALWAYS a country marilyn! Pretty ironic of you considering Israel isnt even a country
If you are teching a history lesson, then tech all of it. It was splitted between Israel and Palestine. Not just given to Israel.
Where do you get your news from? I genuinely wanna know who your sources are because the amount of misinformation that’s been spread into you is concerning
@@emistety3985 stop getting your information from BBC 😂😂😂 the amount of lies youve been fed with is concerning
James Whale is kicking off at the guy on the left the most when the guy on the right is by far the most rude, aggressive and provocative.
He does not answer the question on Sudan and Syria deaths at the end 😅
They have been silent there and about the Rohinga in Burma as well. And the Uighur in China. They don't care about those muslims.
Shame Keith was not even given time to speak ...what a waste listening to this screaming Muslim!!!!
I THOUGHT MUSLIMS WEREN'T ALLOWED TO HAVE TATTOOS
He's not Muslim
Christians are suppose to love their enemies so..
He’s not Muslim. Many Muslims do have tattoos yes we are not allowed to alter our looks with tattoos but it doesn’t take you out the fold of Islam.
@@Doesexactlywhatitsaysonthetin so, hypocrites? Not being spiteful, but you say it’s not allowed, but it is allowed because it doesn’t take you out of Islam. It can’t be disallowed, but allowed.
The guy clearly said that he's Agnostic.
The only prats here are Whale and tattoo man.
redsea6266 coming from "let me show you my dysfunctional map" as I'm Bibi's mini-me
Really? Perhaps you should read the Ramban's great work, 'A Guide for the Perplexed'.
Keith was the prat.
You have to be a larger prat to not notice that very clearly.
What James Whale said about forgetting about the other conflicts is completely wrong. There is a very valid point there. Goub Bahou talks about double standards, yet he didn't want to answer about Sudan and was stalling. It's also what many people on the protests do, they avoid mentioning all other conflicts, as though nobody else is being killed, displaced, raped etc. I wonder why it has captured so many people, because 'If no Jews, it's not news'. Selective memory from Goub as well, as there was joy and dancing at those killed on 7th October, in various parts of the world, not only in Gaza, before any Israeli retaliation. I also believe there were similar scenes after 9/11, so who are the ones supporting genocide? If he cares so much, where is his condemnation for regimes acting in Iran, Syria, Sudan, Nigeria, Libyra, Yemen, China etc? It seems only Israel is criticised and in many ways they should be, I am not a fan of their government, but equally, Hamas need to be rid of as well, alongside many of these other regimes.
Keith is the only one talking sense anyone with morals integrity and heart support Israel 🇮🇱!!!!
I would of like to of heard Keith speak, gobby Goub has left me with second hand embarrassment
What does his shirt say? The PR dept of hamas is making tee shirts now?
5AM Call To PRAY Every Morning... England is not Islamophobic
James acted like quite a twit - it was Bahou interrupting and talking back not Fraser .... really messed up interview
I am Israeli and not Jewish. And what you said is exactly the truth. And I support my country in everything it does. Most of those who speak against us do not love us at all and do not know anything about how we live here. Hope she will be judged fairly and not with the hypocrisy that characterizes the Europeans at this time.
You can call us hypocrites? But, your perfection knows no bounds, right? I’m in support of Israel, but your little speech here, is doing what you’re supposed to be arguing against. You’re calling all Europeans, hypocrites. You’re bunching us all together. You don’t love us…..yet, you want love?
@@pommiebears this about the hypocrisy of many European governments not the people of Europe, which is true. Look at Cameron for example.
GOUB: Can't you ever close your mouth to LISTEN for once?
It's the philibuster method. He has nothing to say that can be supported so he just swamps the opponent.
The Muslim guy kept getting upset about the Jewish guy interrupting and goes and does the exact same thing. He wanted to take over the whole thing and that fake way he acted like the better man by fake apologies. Manipulation.
If you watched the video you'd see he said he was agnostic and not a Muslim
For the hundreds times he is not a Muslim
Goub can't answer a simple question..
The fella with the backwards cap, is a clown
Goub clearly dont know his history, quran is not 3000 yrs old LMFAO
He ain't a muslim.🔔
@@THESURAFELB You dont have to be a moslem to know how old the ideology is o.0
@@oneofakind5668 you wrote 'his history' and his history is not as young as the Quran referring to what you wrote. His people have a rather older history of more than 2000 years. You catch the drift?
@@THESURAFELB You catch my drift ;)
I know! What a lie. Trying to equate the Torah to a book that's fractions of time as old to make them seem as equivalent.
If only James Whale cared about the British 🇬🇧 ex-servicemen protecting the aid workers, killed by the IDF as he does about Israeli 🇮🇱 hostages:
John Chapman 🇬🇧
James Henderson 🇬🇧
James Kirby 🇬🇧
Clearly we see that these pro Palestinians have no manners! They’re too aggressive! They all bark and the viewers cannot hear anything! All because they want to prove their point. but it’s not working!
Bahou should change his behaviour… he is not a 4 years old! 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
BAD IDEA WHALE.🎗🇮🇱🇬🇧✌
Between the 4th and 5th centuries, the region WAS majority Christian and would remain so until the 11th century, however, with the Muslim conquest of the Byzantine Levant in the 7th century, the region gradually began to be Arabized and Islamized as a result of local conversion and acculturation combined with Arab Muslim settlement. This ultimately led to the creation of an Arab Muslim population, which, despite being considerably smaller than the area's population in late antiquity, would go on to become the region's main religious group beginning in the Middle Ages and lasting until the 20th century.
You can see how awkward the guy on the right is, as soon as asked a question he wants to be difficult.
The donkey and the whale! Wheres the donkey? Oh they found another donkey.
I've rarely seen an interview where the pro Palestine advocate isn't on the cusp of becoming violent...truly amazing how angry they get!
Islam out its ☪️ ancer.
Relax and enjoy ya halal kebab or halal lamb buna.
Seems like you've been talking to Mystic Meg. What are the stars saying for you today ✨️
@@cue1806 luckily 🤡 I moved from the uk where there is no Islam.
@@cue1806 no halal where I live thanks
@@XTRAIT-em4rx they are saying stay away from ☪️ ancer.
you can see a mile off that chap with the reverse baseball cap is snidey
People of his age who wear a baseball cap back to front like a five year old - really?
To cover the slaphead.
I am 57 and similar.
Goub better get his facts straight .
19:33
'Hamas is not the problem; Hamas is a symptom of the problem - being an illegal occupation.'
And German threats and actions in the 1930s were a symptom of the German nationalities problem in Czechoslovakia and Poland.
And the Ukraine war now is a symptom of the Russian nationalities problem in Crimea and Donbas.
Hamas is not a symptom of the problem.
Hamas is the problem.
Spot on!!
Goub said that he is agnostic, but it seems like I smell a taquiyah here
Keith is 100% correct
Correct in BS. I agree with you there 😊
Is this the guy who hacked into his TH-cam account and upped his subscriber count via a script what most TH-camrs do by the way.
Hamas imprison women who have a baby outside of wedlock
Im not surprised, they stone people to death for adultry....the media never informs people about the truth when it comes to Hamas
That land was never, ever a country/ nation called Palestine!! It was a territory occupied by many occupiers..
But it was never a Palestinian nation, with a Palestinian language, culture, king or PM!!!!! Ever!!!!
This Goub dude and James ganged up on Ash whenever he countered the argument that Israel is entirely to blame for the conflict. So, because Ash isn't there they bullied Keith and Keith wasn't allowed to make his point. Instead Keith was told to shut up and told it was his fault that the argument got out of hand. These debates about the Israel Palestine conflict are always become heated because one side is always unreasonable, and I'm sorry to any pro-palestine people commenting here, but the pro-palestine guest is the unreasonable one in these debates. Though, that doesn't mean I don't agree the Palestinian people in Gaza have suffered the most, from the brutal indoctrination and treatment of Hamas.
Israel is entirely to blame for this conflict.
Hamas is insignificant in Gaza and yoo are pathetic.
You're 100% correct. And the other person who's replied to your post only proves your point even more.
@@Ondolite you don't even know me first of all, and secondly I was making the point that these pro-palestine people on TV are hurting the Palestinian people who are really suffering. So why am I pathetic for being reasonable and stating my opinion?
It's not hamas that is killing so many innocent women and children though is it, ad its not hamas that's restricting water and food to get to the Palestinians, it's israel
But hamas use wemen and children as human shields . We know that as a fact
It's been proven the IDF uses Palestinians as human shields. I've seen several videos. How about that?
How do you know that's a fact, that's just propaganda so they can kill innocent people and not be held accountable for their actions
Down with the ummah.
It’ll never happen, we’re too strong and you all are not, full stop
@@AmericanTLBN ha! You wanna fight?
@@mrror8933 Talking tough from your moms basement because you think you wouldn’t have to answer for your words but you’ll get caught slipping somewhere
@@mrror8933 Your women love us so much that they are converting to Islam in droves and having our children
ummah will rise
There doesn’t have to be agreement between the two sides, Hamas started this round of war and has been smashed to pieces like all the other times, the Palestinians have lost and have no bargaining chips other than the hostages they took. Victors have no need to negotiate with the defeated. Ps is Goub aware that tattoos are haram, hes such a good Muslim.
This host is literally trying to depict that just because both of these guest aren't reasoning with 1 another, then Peace in the middle East is not going to happen...suggesting that both sides aren't willing to come to the table and talk so nothing is going to change. That things should just carry on the way they have, that's it, the end...
He's doing this just so he doesn't have to condemn Israel and what they have done...
They try all tricks in the book.. calling it israel-hamas conflict.. right to defend itself Do you condemn hamas? Oct 7.. islamophobia..
This Goub guy is SOOO rude! keeps interrupting, pushing his hands in to Keith's face and saying empty slogans like "I am a friend of the Jews"... "All we want is justice"... what is your damn solution?
It’s worth watching how this Arab behaves to understand what they are like
Ash is a bloody Legend man is a Saint ✴️💫
Americans, make sure to pay your taxes. Israeli soldiers can't eat McDonald's without your support!
Islam out ☪️ ancer
we like McDonald's.
@eyalamit5120 I wasn't eating McDonald's until i found out they were supporting Israel. Since then, I've put on 10kg of pure big mac
@@BuffaloSportsClub YES LAD! PROPA BRITISH ALLY!
Hey USA was donating tax payers money to UNRWA and supports the Palestinian refugees in USA with welfare checks. ...Hopefully not much longer when Trump is elected President again
On behalf of all palestinians, Arabs etc I apologize for Keith
Sorry Keith😢😢😢
What Keith just repeated on the mouth of the ones claiming being HAMAS assured me that no way they are HAMAS but again someone has Islam as a target mission Omg!
The ones who are acting HAMAS and forcing their mercenary actions on Islam is absurd
Islam is not supposed to deffend itself at all
A religion which will live proud forever, keep that in mind
What matters now are z souls dying for a small spot of land, killing savagely one another, where z planet may fit them all😢😢😢
Unbelievable we r ridiculous as humans , aren't we
Vicky Victimhood. .
I agree with Keith and I do not agree with the other guy
Goub Bahou is the worst he always interrupts everyone that debates with him then tries to gas light them that he wants to be friends and he has nothing against he does this everytime he get emotional then tries to blame other person and plays the victim card
7:07 He poked you with his FINGER Goub. Try paying ATTENTION instead of pretending to be a tough guy.
Yes, Goub and James.
His finger was pointing out but actualy it was the pen in his hand that poked Goub, I watched it a couple of times to check, yes it was the pen, have another look
Again the host is unbelievable and just as unjust as the other muslim
Goub tries to control the conversation. 👎
This ‘interview’ is rediculous
Did James just say he didn't know whether or not Netanyahu actually invoked biblical references to the amalek?! It's common knowledge!
Can't stand hummus
Have you tried it with celery… tastes different?
I prefer Tahini
I hope you are not referring to the food item 😂 aren’t you ?
😂
"Don't poke me with that pen ever again" 🤣 That obviously didn't cross his mind when somebody poked his left arm with a pen 🤣 How even children are being radicalised is easy: Farfour, the Hamas Mouse. I'm totally with Keith Fraser, as the the statement "Today we get the Saturday people and then we go for the Sunday people" is becoming more frequent and louder.
He was never even touched. It was a laugh.