I think the "Panerai is so big I can't wear it" argument is slightly misguided, unless you're going for a particular style like Christian usually does. A major component of the aesthetic is that they are oversized - it's the whole point of the watch. Between the fact that they are supposed to look big and the super short lugs, I actually think they work great on smaller wrists (like mine). I've even seen some women rocking 45mm Radiomirs and it looks awesome. While the size isn't for everyone, I don't think people should be put off because it looks big on the wrist - that's ok with a Panerai, Big Pilot, etc. that are big for a purpose, not for style.
Just bought a Panerai, having spent time in one of their boutiques yesterday. This is a great video and selection, which has obviously moved on further over the last 2years.
Wonderful presentation Christian, very informative. I'd also like to take this moment to congratulate you on your success, it's been real nice to see you build up your business into what it currently is. I remember when you only had a few eclectic pieces moving through your shop and now you're just taking off into the stratosphere. I wish you all the best in all of your future endeavors and hopefully one of these days you'll come across and offer up a Rolex manufactured in my birth year of 1980 that truly appeals to me so we can do some business. Keep up the great work, it's been a real pleasure witnessing your incredible journey.
Christian, I've never been a fan of Panerai, but thank you for educating me and sharing the pro and cons of three popular models. I appreciate you broadening my horizons.
Here's my big issue with Panerai: they only guarantee +/-10s per day, they're not even certified chronometers, they're not even guaranteeing chronometer level accuracy (I'd be happy just with a guarantee from the company, no COSC certification, that they'll run about +/- 5s). I know most people don't care too much about this but I just cannot get past it: you're asking Rolex money and offering Orient/Hamilton/etc. accuracy? Nah fuck off with that nonsense.
My PAM00619 with the in-house P4000 micro-rotor movement is running 8-10s fast, but on the whole I'd rather have it running +10 than -5. And considering it doesn't even have minute markers one doesn't tend to notice until it's a couple of minutes off 😄
Fair points, but I've had a Seiko which was accurate to a few seconds a MONTH, and I much prefer the Panerai now. It is a luxury product, and I don't suppose most Panerai owners worry too much about the accuracy. And look at the number of tourbillions out there - an almost useless complication which does little or nothing for accuracy, but they start at $15K for the TAG Carrera, and many are well North of $50K. None of this makes any sense, but that's half the point. Oops - the message I just replied to got deleted - not sure what's happening. I guess the Paneristi Mafia got to him 😄
People like Panerai cos it’s so recognisable even from far especially the 1950 Luminor... I have receive 4-5 compliments for my basic Pam 321 cos so easy to spot and only 1 compliment for my Deepsea D blue
I love this video. Regardless if panerai is really in Christians wheelhouse, he gave good attention to it. Is the 38 mm not panerai enough? I bought a $100 canal street panerai 45mm just to get used to the size and I can’t. Is the 38 mm a good buy?
andrew peana the PAM 655 features at the beginning (white dial) is 42mm and more water resistant than the 38mm. From experience it fits nicely on a 6.5 inch wrist. Hope this helps a bit but definitely try on in store before purchasing!
Also 40 and I belie 38 mm lack Panerai's sandwich type dial mentioned in the video. It's an iconic type of dial for Panerai and the ones without also have much worse lume. So if you want panerai it's 42mm+ that you should buy.
Can only afford preown..😁 they should stay at preown-ish price for a new one..👍🏻 love the p4000 movement with the micro rotor..just wait few more years to get a preown..👍🏻 914/915 also nice for manual wind..it has been some time someone release a Panerai video..
The Hamilton Khaki Field Mechanical in white with a vintage tan strap aesthetically blows that first PAM655 away. Even if you take away the obvious gap in price... it still trumps it.
I had been looking at Panerais for years and though I liked aspects of the style I never found one that was quite right. But then while looking at another model I saw a PAM00619 and knew instantly I had to have one. Surprisingly compact 45mm Radiomir 1940 case in brushed and polished Titanium, with a tobacco brown sandwich no-date dial and brown buffalo leather strap. And just 12.2mm thick using the sweet P4000 micro-rotor movement. Plus I got it at a crazy low price. Loving it, but the only problem is now I need to get a Luminor and a Submersible too 😄
A little rant.. I have a PAM049 and PAM 000, which both PAMs I truly enjoy and love. Great watches, both at 40mm and 44mm, great WR, running great. I got them cheap so I don't bother the movements (ETA), but still within COSC. In my opinion - sorry if I offended Panerai owners- but Panerai is becoming very lazy in their innovation lately. It is a shame really but I can understand. From its Luminor Due line, a watch that Panerai shows to attract people with slimmer wrists but compromising the WR while maintaining crown guard that Luminor has is absurd. Second, the Luna Rossa line. I can't get the inspiration on that design. While I don't hate it but it looks tacky imo. Third, an in-house movement that is not COSC certified with a price tag of Rolex money is just pushing their luck too far. In house movement is not an excuse for cashing in Rolex money while dismissing the COSC standard. If you place your brand in a mass market (Up to 2500 USD) , then a non COSC in house movement is acceptable. Both extremes are available below 2500 USD, on one hand you have Seiko with in house movement but not reaching COSC in their specs, and Tissot with ETA movement (Powermatic 80) with COSC standard. This means that you can get away with this extreme situation when you place yourself at the mass market. But if you are an established brand with price tag that most people can't afford, you don't want to compromise. An in house movement with COSC standard is a must! It is such a shame that Panerai has released these models, but if I were in their shoes, I will be confused myself since Panerai has so many limited editions and they keep on bring back re-issues which devaluate the original ones. My suggestion would be bringing back Panerai to its roots and do design that is not merely just for show but with great design and functionalities in mind and please priorities the accuracy as well.
It's mostly a heritage thing - the original Panerai dive watches were pocket watch cases with lugs soldered on, meaning they actually had to sew on and then cut the leather strap. Panerai relies really heavily on their history. And despite being "dive watches," there are way better choices out there for serious diving. Submersibles usually use rubber, though I totally understand the rose gold version being on leather.
There are metal bracelets available on some models, but considering the characteristic wide lug spacing a metal bracelet would look quite overpowering, and would weigh a ton unless made in Titanium. The secret of the Panerai is it looks big and heavy but doesn't feel like it.
A big Panerai case over 20 grands with 100 meter depth rating ? Nobody will ever dive with such a timepiece, but it should beat a Datejust at this game.
30m water resistance on a Luminor with the huge crown guard? I just don’t get it. Looks like they flushed away their history in favor of aesthetics. I’m sticking to my 2004 Radiomir 183.
Can't take men who wear lots of bracelets seriously. If you're a guy and you wear a bunch of bracelets, know that there are lots of other men out there who basically see you as a gypsy.
@@thomasrusso1411 If you can afford a Rolex, Patek, AP and VC (at the same time?) then a Panerai should be chump change. I also have a bunch of high end watches, but I saw a Panerai, tried it on, liked the look, and bought it - end of story. Personally I think most Rolexes are ugly, overpriced, mass-produced mediocrities, trading on name alone, but I don't go around telling people that (except now) because I know other people like them (presumably God knows why...). Anyway, to each his own.
@@davidjb3671 great take. I'll never understand why people feel the need to piss on what others enjoy. Criticism is fair and fine, but some seem to prefer to throw shots.
I think the "Panerai is so big I can't wear it" argument is slightly misguided, unless you're going for a particular style like Christian usually does. A major component of the aesthetic is that they are oversized - it's the whole point of the watch. Between the fact that they are supposed to look big and the super short lugs, I actually think they work great on smaller wrists (like mine). I've even seen some women rocking 45mm Radiomirs and it looks awesome. While the size isn't for everyone, I don't think people should be put off because it looks big on the wrist - that's ok with a Panerai, Big Pilot, etc. that are big for a purpose, not for style.
Luke Murphy very well put my good sir
Just bought a Panerai, having spent time in one of their boutiques yesterday. This is a great video and selection, which has obviously moved on further over the last 2years.
Wonderful presentation Christian, very informative. I'd also like to take this moment to congratulate you on your success, it's been real nice to see you build up your business into what it currently is. I remember when you only had a few eclectic pieces moving through your shop and now you're just taking off into the stratosphere. I wish you all the best in all of your future endeavors and hopefully one of these days you'll come across and offer up a Rolex manufactured in my birth year of 1980 that truly appeals to me so we can do some business. Keep up the great work, it's been a real pleasure witnessing your incredible journey.
his name isn't Theo lmao
@@dustyowl99 Ah crap, it's Christian isn't it.😂😂 All better
His name is Christian ;)
Christian, I've never been a fan of Panerai, but thank you for educating me and sharing the pro and cons of three popular models. I appreciate you broadening my horizons.
Great video...but of course it is, it is Panerai!!!
Thanks, guys!!
Here's my big issue with Panerai: they only guarantee +/-10s per day, they're not even certified chronometers, they're not even guaranteeing chronometer level accuracy (I'd be happy just with a guarantee from the company, no COSC certification, that they'll run about +/- 5s). I know most people don't care too much about this but I just cannot get past it: you're asking Rolex money and offering Orient/Hamilton/etc. accuracy? Nah fuck off with that nonsense.
My PAM00619 with the in-house P4000 micro-rotor movement is running 8-10s fast, but on the whole I'd rather have it running +10 than -5.
And considering it doesn't even have minute markers one doesn't tend to notice until it's a couple of minutes off 😄
Fair points, but I've had a Seiko which was accurate to a few seconds a MONTH, and I much prefer the Panerai now. It is a luxury product, and I don't suppose most Panerai owners worry too much about the accuracy.
And look at the number of tourbillions out there - an almost useless complication which does little or nothing for accuracy, but they start at $15K for the TAG Carrera, and many are well North of $50K.
None of this makes any sense, but that's half the point.
Oops - the message I just replied to got deleted - not sure what's happening. I guess the Paneristi Mafia got to him 😄
People like Panerai cos it’s so recognisable even from far especially the 1950 Luminor... I have receive 4-5 compliments for my basic Pam 321 cos so easy to spot and only 1 compliment for my Deepsea D blue
Pam 321 is anything but basic. I know cos I have one myself. But your absolutely right, its definitely more recognisable than any Rolex I own!
The large Panerai are kind of done by now. But the smaller ones in their line-up I quite like. Strong design language. Unique look. Great silhouette.
What!? 8:58 100 millimeters water resistant!? Literally unusable!
careful drinking your coffee
Don't pee on it.
Hi, please make more Panerai videos!
Fantastic video, Christian...thank you!
Glad you liked it!
Great video the white radiomir is incredible
Show off people goes for Rolex
But
Panerai is for ‘CLASS’
I love me some Panerai, now only if I could afford it.
At 09:00 you say the WR is only 100 millimeters. Do you view and QC your videos?
Thank you for this video. Though for me a Panerai must have a sandwich dial.
The second Panerai ups the waterresistance of the Due line I‘ll buy a Panerai...
Glad you did Panerai. These are not their strongest pieces. I like their new(ish) green dial offerings.
Cool to see you wearing a tee Christian! 😆
"Panerai own there design" me thinking about rolex oyster perpetual in the 1920
I know you prefer smaller case sizes but the 42 mm 1940 looks perfect on you. Not too big at all!
Could never get into panerai but if its tnh i gotta watch
I love this video. Regardless if panerai is really in Christians wheelhouse, he gave good attention to it. Is the 38 mm not panerai enough? I bought a $100 canal street panerai 45mm just to get used to the size and I can’t. Is the 38 mm a good buy?
andrew peana the PAM 655 features at the beginning (white dial) is 42mm and more water resistant than the 38mm. From experience it fits nicely on a 6.5 inch wrist.
Hope this helps a bit but definitely try on in store before purchasing!
Also 40 and I belie 38 mm lack Panerai's sandwich type dial mentioned in the video. It's an iconic type of dial for Panerai and the ones without also have much worse lume. So if you want panerai it's 42mm+ that you should buy.
Thanks guys appreciate it.
Can only afford preown..😁 they should stay at preown-ish price for a new one..👍🏻 love the p4000 movement with the micro rotor..just wait few more years to get a preown..👍🏻 914/915 also nice for manual wind..it has been some time someone release a Panerai video..
The Hamilton Khaki Field Mechanical in white with a vintage tan strap aesthetically blows that first PAM655 away. Even if you take away the obvious gap in price... it still trumps it.
Shitter watch
Chris P. Bacon my opinion. And having owned over 30 PAMs, I think I’m entitled to it. I wouldn’t ever buy another. Losing their way. Big time.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 just say you can't afford it.....
That 974😍
I am a huge T&H fan and Panerai fan....so I loved this video!
I had been looking at Panerais for years and though I liked aspects of the style I never found one that was quite right. But then while looking at another model I saw a PAM00619 and knew instantly I had to have one. Surprisingly compact 45mm Radiomir 1940 case in brushed and polished Titanium, with a tobacco brown sandwich no-date dial and brown buffalo leather strap. And just 12.2mm thick using the sweet P4000 micro-rotor movement. Plus I got it at a crazy low price. Loving it, but the only problem is now I need to get a Luminor and a Submersible too 😄
It’s nice to see you Theo stepping outside the Rolex box .
Great video!! Great looking watches but way overpriced. Keep up the good work Cheers
im really enjoying these Christian
A little rant..
I have a PAM049 and PAM 000, which both PAMs I truly enjoy and love. Great watches, both at 40mm and 44mm, great WR, running great. I got them cheap so I don't bother the movements (ETA), but still within COSC.
In my opinion - sorry if I offended Panerai owners- but Panerai is becoming very lazy in their innovation lately. It is a shame really but I can understand.
From its Luminor Due line, a watch that Panerai shows to attract people with slimmer wrists but compromising the WR while maintaining crown guard that Luminor has is absurd.
Second, the Luna Rossa line. I can't get the inspiration on that design. While I don't hate it but it looks tacky imo.
Third, an in-house movement that is not COSC certified with a price tag of Rolex money is just pushing their luck too far.
In house movement is not an excuse for cashing in Rolex money while dismissing the COSC standard. If you place your brand in a mass market (Up to 2500 USD) , then a non COSC in house movement is acceptable.
Both extremes are available below 2500 USD, on one hand you have Seiko with in house movement but not reaching COSC in their specs, and Tissot with ETA movement (Powermatic 80) with COSC standard. This means that you can get away with this extreme situation when you place yourself at the mass market.
But if you are an established brand with price tag that most people can't afford, you don't want to compromise. An in house movement with COSC standard is a must!
It is such a shame that Panerai has released these models, but if I were in their shoes, I will be confused myself since Panerai has so many limited editions and they keep on bring back re-issues which devaluate the original ones.
My suggestion would be bringing back Panerai to its roots and do design that is not merely just for show but with great design and functionalities in mind and please priorities the accuracy as well.
Why are panerai's always on leather straps?
It's mostly a heritage thing - the original Panerai dive watches were pocket watch cases with lugs soldered on, meaning they actually had to sew on and then cut the leather strap. Panerai relies really heavily on their history. And despite being "dive watches," there are way better choices out there for serious diving. Submersibles usually use rubber, though I totally understand the rose gold version being on leather.
There are metal bracelets available on some models, but considering the characteristic wide lug spacing a metal bracelet would look quite overpowering, and would weigh a ton unless made in Titanium. The secret of the Panerai is it looks big and heavy but doesn't feel like it.
A big Panerai case over 20 grands with 100 meter depth rating ? Nobody will ever dive with such a timepiece, but it should beat a Datejust at this game.
Not a fan of panerai but tht last one was beeeautiful
You might like the PAM00619 then. Check it out 🙂
Hows a submersible only good for 100m??
9enius most likely bc the case material is gold, somehow most brands get less WR out of precious metals...
Good video Theo. I personally have never been attracted to most Panerai, with one or two exceptions.
You should take a look at UNIMATIC watches
30m water resistance on a Luminor with the huge crown guard? I just don’t get it. Looks like they flushed away their history in favor of aesthetics. I’m sticking to my 2004 Radiomir 183.
panerai is too expensive imo for what it is. They should price their watches more like omega and they would actually sell watches again
Bring back off topic 🤔
26k 100m water resistant. Bummer.
Can't take men who wear lots of bracelets seriously. If you're a guy and you wear a bunch of bracelets, know that there are lots of other men out there who basically see you as a gypsy.
Christian, you picked the perfect 3 Panerai references that NOBODY wants LOL
I wouldn’t pay more than $3,500 for a used Pan. I don’t care what model it is. It’s barely even worth that much.
Pan is done. It’s over.
nice watches but too many fakes ones. would not buy one used.
You have to have your head examined to pay those prices for those watches there watches are waaaay overpriced
Thomas Russo judging from the your comment you’re clearly not their target. Nor you are the aimed target of any luxury watch house.
Luke A dude I own Strictly Rolex Patek AP Vacheron
Luke A at there price point there are so many better options you can buy those pieces preowned for half the price
@@thomasrusso1411 If you can afford a Rolex, Patek, AP and VC (at the same time?) then a Panerai should be chump change. I also have a bunch of high end watches, but I saw a Panerai, tried it on, liked the look, and bought it - end of story. Personally I think most Rolexes are ugly, overpriced, mass-produced mediocrities, trading on name alone, but I don't go around telling people that (except now) because I know other people like them (presumably God knows why...). Anyway, to each his own.
@@davidjb3671 great take. I'll never understand why people feel the need to piss on what others enjoy. Criticism is fair and fine, but some seem to prefer to throw shots.
Panerai's are shitters, as bad as Tudors. Their designs are ugly & they don't even hold 25% of their original MSRP value.
if you can't afford one just say that....