If You Play Full Chords, You're Doing it Wrong
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ค. 2024
- Learn how to create beautiful ambient guitar chordal textures by leveraging partial chords, also known as "dyads". I promise - this will change your ambient guitar life!
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Video Chapters
0:00 - Intro
0:30 - What is a Partial Chord?
1:29 - Perfect Fifths
3:50 - Sevenths
5:40 - Major/Minor Thirds
7:20 - Ninths / Seconds
9:25 - Put it All Together!
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Aaaaah, chords... You know how to get my attention :-)
I play partial chords to hard rock / heavy metal. I like to give the bass some space to explore unlike most music today where the bass and guitar are mud in the low end.
Nice. Many modern players are using jazzy stuff like that. I also like how fusiony lots of modern metal and rock solos are fusiony sounding.
Broken-chords can lead to great original composition. ☮️
I’m fully on board with this technique especially when playing with more than one guitar player in a composition.
Great point!
I'll add Dyad to Dungeons and Dragons. Level 10. Alignment: Good. Winged humanoid body with bearded faces. Known for musical enchantment spells and possesing scrolls with 0 and 1 binary codes.
Why stop there? Have it be a bard's familiar 😃
You make it look so easy at the end. Humbled.
Hey Bill , great channel , at 25 years of the instrument I've gone full circle from electric to acoustic and back to electric , got myself a rocker 32 stereo amp and a rv 500 , fingerpicking lends itself nicely to the ambient sounds.
I use diads all the time when playing bass. They are the most effective way to voice a chord on bass with out making it sound muddy. Like you, I play the 3rd an octave up to allow clearance. I play a six string bass so what I can do is play my bass in the two handed tapping style (like Stanley Jordan but slower!) where I fret the diad with my left hand and hammer out the melody with my right hand. It works really well with reverb.
Today's lesson reminded me of U2 and the Police. I loved the "openness" of what Edge and Andy played back in the 80's; it seems many of the 80's bands jumped on that train.
Another guitarist that used partial chords was Alex Lifeson, especially on the Farewell to Kings and Hemispheres albums from a few years before. One of my favorite guitar players, bar none!
Yeah, Bill, thanks for sharing a fantastic lesson and for jarring the grey matter!
Take care and be well!
Reading your first paragraph I was reminded of lifeson haha
He always has saw great clean tones. Whenever I need a shot of the ethereal he never lets me down. I would like a little mi\ore jamming like you did at the end.
You have to get the hang of it, but perfect 4ths sound insanely cool when you learn to arpeggiate them cleanly. Such an angular sound!
Very pretty sounding. Thank you Bill!!!
Great stuff
Very useful info Bill, thanks for posting.
Great stuff, going to try this on synth pads
Been learning so much from all of the ambiance you tubers 🙏thank you !
I'm used to playing in trios, so there's a lot of freedom on the frequency spectrum. But the dyads idea is nice because you can:
Imply things
make turns that are sudden or unpredictable but still have the space to "fit"
use octave and pitch pedals
use delay pedals
use another delay pedal with your delay pedals (always!)
Make room for the keyboardist or sampler or singer (yikes)
Lately I've been using a lot of minor/major 2nds on my ambient piano projects... amazing how much color, tension and beauty they add !
Beautiful guitar! Best Regards
That power chord was quite the example with that effect.
dude you've been poppin up in my feed lately and I'm really enjoying your video's. Thanks for all the good info.
Exactly what I was looking for at the right time. Thanks, sir!
love this channel bill! my boss dd500 is a great pedal for ambient stuff, but i just ordered a walrus audio slo..cant wait to experiment with some new tones
Thank you man. This is so refreshing.. True education and inspiration here... Amazing.
Very nice considered advice, thanks Bill. I love the sus2 sound, but never thought of playing it as a partial chord. Lovely
Excellent summary Bill... and useful advice for other genres too. Makes for a very dense sound with gain, but still room for other parts to 'breathe' so to speak.
I’ve not long been watching your videos. So happy to have found them.
This one was absolutely fascinating. Thank you.
Bill, I am Italian and I can understand every single word from you cause your voice calms my state and it' s always clear and direct. Your playing is awesome too... Thanks for this beautiful video contents and the time you spent for doing this. Reverb and delay can touch my heart every time...
I've been working on building partial chords in a Frippertronics context. My goal it to learn how to leverage them to create harmonic progression and development while looping. This video was helpful.
That’s a good point, that widely spaced intervals leave more room in the spectrum for overdubs or echoes or effects. Thanks!
I just noticed the chapter indicators, that is really great! Thanks!
I really love the chapter indicators. Glad you are enjoying them!
love the playing at the end! all great tips!
Thanks very much!
I love when I watch his videos, and go "oh cool! I've been doing that already!" This guy is a cool guy
I started out at 13 playing partial chords , then learned full proper chords and now I am back to partial and stuff i'm not sure are even suppose to go together at all but if it sounds good do it .
The chords bring the late great John Martyn to mind in his Echoplex days.
Thanks. Most of the time I go for shell voicings (1-3-7) in my ambient swells.
Great video! :)
2:05 - probably the last youtube channel I'd expect to hear Smoke On The Water : ) Rock on!!!!
Best simple lesson on yt
I absolutely love 9th chords! I use them all the time!
Same!
Thank you very much, I needed a reminder of skeleton cords. Like the saying less is more. Plus it exercises my mind.
The more I imbibe and delve into your peaceful music, good sir, the more I see you as a meditative Allan Holdsworth. ;)
Very nice! I'm doing this on a hammered dulcimer, which is very much oriented to two note strikes. It can get real muddy when stacking notes thru a shimmer effect, so less is more!
Love this playing. It’s got a Borderlands 2 feel to it!
I'm left handed, but learned guitar right-handed. In first days of playing chords, it was really hard for me. I did the same thing! I made them as minimal as possible :P
Same here! Left-handed, play right-handed!
I'm left-handed but play right-handed too
@@chordsoforion +1
That’s so cool, I never would of had the confidence when learning. 👊🏽
Playing chords in the beginning is hard for everyone. Left handed people that play "right" handed actually have an advantage. You get to use your dominant hand for the hard parts and your other hand to just pick the string. Right handed people have to do it backwards on "right" handed guitars. They are making chords and playing lead with their wrong hand and just picking the string with the hand they should be making the chords and playing lead with.
I like doing dyad 6th chords a lot with open tuning: I play primarily in either A,E,B,E,F#,B or in B,F#,C#,G#,C#,D#. In all fifth-style tunings especially it's really easy to get odd but beautiful sounding dyads.
Less is more. I often stack wide intervals to create rich cords that have the widest posible voicing. As aleays great video with excellent ideas. Thanks
Space to play in...always preferable.
Thanks. Tasty.
Hey, I've learned a new term "dyads" .. my speak has been to say "intervals". This has been something that I'm breaking away from, .. in thinking that I have to play whole, .. all the strings .. thinking that more is better, when it probably isn't. And, obviously .. the ease of playing is greater, with the lesser note approach.
Thanks for the tip! Now I know why I sound so dang boring. Will try.
Bicycle Ninja .... same here I’ve been bored with myself lately. Time to dig in.
Thank You for another great lesson.
This video makes me miss the Carvin days.
When I play dyads, I do root-3rd, root-5th, or root-octave. I am also all about using the lowest string as the drone over those dyads.
Also, I do all my dyads with a shimmer reverb, specifically the version 1 Matthews Effects Astronomer. It makes for great intros and outros.
Excellent!
Comping behind a soloist in jazz, the bass player has the root, the fifth doesn't matter, and so all you gotta play most of the time is the 3rd and the 7th. That defines the chord quality, and the soloist can put whatever "sauce" they want around it in terms of altered tensions, diminished lines, or straight up chromatic insanity.
Gabriel Hoffman, wait...not the Gabriel Hoffman?
@@unfcknblvbl I mean, certainly a Gabriel Hoffman. I build guitars in Minneapolis.
Solid advice👌
Yes, and if you're playing with a keyboard player, for example, you can go further up the triads to get at the 9, 11, 13 and alterations.
Hendrix used them quite a lot.Saves you from carpal tunnel syndrome.
Have you done a video using this: BOSS ME-80 Multi-Effects Pedal for Acoustic and Electric Guitars?
I'm a sucker for major 9 chords, I play them far too often (it's an Emo thing), but I agree that dyads are probably the way to go. Multi-tracking multiple layers of single notes or dyads that blend together to form a larger chord is probably the way to go (for example, an ambient track with a low E5 pad/drone, then shifting layers of G#, D#, and F# over it creating the Emaj9 when they sync up (also creating E7s, E triads, Esus2s, and the like when some of the notes have faded).
I find myself playing a ton of 2 chords in worship music. They have a funky sort of resonance that takes a chord progression out of the ordinary. :)
I am still on the fence about this, playing just two notes of a chord gets a really nice clean sound but i also like the richness that comes with a full chord....more experimenting to be done me thinks.
Love the Fatboy! I have the same one but with black hardware and a little darker finish, I love that the quilt really pops on yours. Do you find it a little neck heavy? I’ve been looking at replacing the tuners to try to lighten the neck-drop.
Fatboy secret: Put the strap on the lower strap button on the bottom of the guitar and all of your balance issues will go away. And don't wear it like a metal dude. 😜
came for the Dyad jokes.
Lorem Opossum the kyds will still groan...
Hey Bill! I have a question that's a bit unrelated to today's video: When you record your guitar parts, do you record any effects, or do you record completely dry? I've always been told that you should record 100% dry, and any modulation or time based effects should be added in post-production. I feel like this makes sense with reverb and delay, but especially with ambient music, it seems like it'd be a different story. Thank you in advance!
90% of the time, I record wet since I am using pedals. If I am using a plugin (like the Valhalla DSP Delay), I will record with the plugin engaged and then modify to taste afterwards since the guitar will be recorded dry.
Awesome, thank you for the reply!
Are you a Dyad? 'Cause I think you are mythical, and I get the feeling you like the woods.
I don't think Bill has enough guitars.
YESSSS - Please have a conversation with my lovely lady!!! 😎
@@chordsoforion I just tried convincing mine I NEEEEEEEEED a Macpherson acoustic.
Satriani's Not of This Earth song----pitch axis
Hi Bill, huge fan here. You've been an awesome teacher for me - thank you SO much.
But just bit of constructive criticism on your very polished video production... Please stop using those cheesy transitions! A simple short drop to black if you don't like to use simple cuts.
Fair point. I did give up the swooshy transition a bit ago based on some other feedback. Let me know if the newer vids are still cheesy.
I run those all day long with Worship band! They cut through nice, but don't step on any toes.
Am I hearing the UD stomp? That Carvin Fatboy is like a piano, it rings the bells of progress.
Shh. Don't tell anyone. Preset O11. :-)
There's nothing like it. Very distinguished
Shouldn’t it be Diads?
Apparently, Dyad is the more common spelling. It's the one I learned: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyad_(music)
"A creature that lives in the woods" - Bill's talking about himself people
So all we need is any 2 stars in the Orion's belt.
Ha ha🤣
Thank you-just learned about dyads from you today! Fascinating and intriguing and I look forward to discovering the sounds in my own playing.