Exactly. There's more content to actually watch and learn. Nobody wants a disaster themselves, but i'd rather watch this than somebody just showing off their cool car.
I'm a certified Fisker Karma and Revero tech and have fixed hundreds of these cars. Honestly if you need help with parts and how to fix these, let me know. Almost all the issues are pretty easy to fix
I was going to say I know that they were fixing these even years after the bankruptcy. I'm assuming they still are. He should just take it to them or find people like you
Didn’t he actually set up a company to convert some? He probably didn’t touch the infotainment system. Least investment, highest return fever nightmare.
I live in Finland, I was driving a taxi when Fisker started to build those here, so the car was on the news for a period of time. I was talking cars with this sweet older woman. She knew somewhat of much about cars. Well we happen to roll up to a traffic lights right next to a Fisker Karma. The old lady said .. "Oh, look it´s a Fister .. " do you know how hard it is to keep a straight face for 6 kilometers (3,75 miles)? After that I had a bit of a laughing session.
I remember seeing one while vacationing in California circa 2012. They were brand new. It was such a stunningly beautiful design back in 2012. I had no clue what it was, but the owner was very friendly and also willing to answer any questions.
I'm not so sure about that. He just spent $8500 on repairs and it still isn't fixed plus probably lost about $90,000 on depreciation. But I am sure he was happy to get rid of it!
After spending over $200k new and only putting 16k miles on it over a 21 year period then selling it for $20k? Yeah, I don't think he was skipping anywhere... Lol
No joke.... there is a homeless person living out of one of these where I live. I like to imagine he was a successful person bankrupt by the terrible decision to buy a Karma.
Tyler discovering why they went bankrupt. I'll never forget going to the dealer to see one, and they wouldn't let me touch the $220k Karma. They wanted me to put down a $15k deposit before I could drive it. It really was perfume on a pig. It an expensive Chevy Volt, but the Volt was light years better.
The CIU (center screen computer) is probably halfway dead due to water ingress around the cabin air filter seal. This was a huge problem with these cars and the entire drainage system was modified when Karma Automotive brought them back in 2018.
True...but the biggest issue appears to be the entertainment system? Not something complicated or new in any sense. Still like you said not surprised lmao
My grandfather was pretty wealthy and lived in a community with tons of other luxury cars in Boyton Beach. Lots of 7 series, S class, Bentley and the occasional Rolls. When this car was brand new I was in the Boynton Beach mall with him. We saw it in a beautiful metallic brown karma revero from across the mall. My grandfather called the dealer (Lamborgini of West Palm Beach). Upon arriving, he ignored the beautiful green Aventador S that Marques Brownlee was filming with (episode 2 of auto focus). After ignoring many other Lamborginis, he walked right past a Porsche 918, thinking nothing of it, until he saw the Brown Karma Revero. The cool factor was through the roof, everywhere he went people asked what it was! That's in West Palm Beach too! He loved the car in every way. He barely needed gas between the hybrid and how little he drove lol. He paid ~$1,000/m on a lease because they couldn't give them away if they tried at the time. The only issue he ever had during ownership (because he barely drove) was a valet crushed the radiator and a few other front end components. All of which were basically made to order at this point. Between damage and lost time, the insurance claim basically paid for the whole lease. He was so happy. He contemplated buying it after the lease because he loved it so much. THANKFULLY he did not. Great memories with the Fisker Karma! Still a sh*tbox though.
Yep, Lamborghini dealer here in Michigan had them for sale too, really cool looking car, still very cool looking car. Fisker great at design, bad at making cars. LOL
A customer of mine at a pizza job I had years ago had one of these. He was one of the earliest supporters and he regretted every single second of it. If you asked him about the car and what it was you had better be prepared for at least 5 minutes of "This company sucks and has screwed me ever since I got it"
And now they are back from insolvency again with a slightly different name trying to sell more half-baked garbage. Glad it looks like once again they will be going down the gurgler soon.
@@therationalistparty9742 As poorly made as Tesla's are, and as poor as their after sales support is - they are at least reasonably functional as transport - the Fisker really never was - and the new ones are more of the same apparently.
@@therationalistparty9742 Tesla is the bestselling car brand in several countries and I love mine never had any issues. have had many luxury cars from shitty new jaguars to bmws and Tesla and Mercedes are the best. I do love my 16 land cruiser and 08 range rover supercharged but they are a waste of gas these days. Tesla Full self driving is also amazing. but if you have never owned one you should not comment what do you know.
That Fisker specialist in the philly suburbs is like 5 mins from my house, just down the block from my detailer. Any time I'm in the area it's not unusual to see a Fisker rolling around, whereas usually I never see them. Met some of the guys who work there at a car meet, cool group!
You mean the owner was intentionally out of the country to avoid having to be present when the new owner (Hoovie) showed to pick up the piece of junk. He left the warehouse picker on charge of the hand off. LMAO
This is what I was thinking, it seems like it might just be a bad GUI issue. There is a gray bar sticking straight up, I'm thinking if you try to "spin" that around the center "wheel" it might work? Though it might not be responsive enough for any of that
It s showing 0 degrees F for the outside temp. Looks like the ambient temperature sensor is malfunctioning, preventing the auto climate control from working. Common problem with modern European cars.
All I could focus on for the entire video was the fact that the front end has been resprayed and repainted. The passenger headlight is also misaligned and has a huge gap there. Hopefully the title reflects this and I just missed Tyler mentioning it
Please bring back switches and knobs. I still remember the wonderful tactile feeling of the variable speed switch in a 1987 Acura legend. And the satisfying click and IMMEDIATE response of the directional indicator that gave me the options of where the air went. The problematic and expensive infotainment bullshit that controls everything is a horrible idea. It's not luxury when the AC doesn't work because the touch screen is broken and will cost 4 grand to fix it.
Probably never coming back. Every car needs a giant screen due to the backup camera mandate "anything for safety!!!!!!" and even then, like your directional, most physical buttons will be controlled by a computer. Buy older cars and fix them, people balk at spending $20k fixing up an old car but will spend $40k to buy a new one that won't last as long... My 86 F150 does only what I tell it to. Manual transmission, manual 4x4 locking hubs, manual brakes, manual crank windows, and no nav system. My 2010 Yaris is similar with crank windows, manual mirrors, manual climate control, no remote control locks...I would gladly sink another $10k in it for new engine and transmission if they go out!
@@randomvideosn0whereI have a backup camera. It doesn’t need a giant screen. Infotainment centers are great but controls for volume and climate control need to be tactile for safety. Yes anything for safety when it comes to car design and that’s why we need tactile switches back. You could control everything without looking up from the road. The issue isn’t some backup camera mandate man. As tech progresses so should our safety standards. If they didn’t we would still have cars like the 50s. Solid and built like a tank but killed people because it didn’t have any crunch zones. It would transfer all the energy from the crash to the people inside instead of absorbing it. When we knew how to prevent that we made it mandatory. When we know better we do better. Same with backup cameras, though that’s pretty old tech anyway, they’ve been around forever companies just liked charging more for it in their luxury packages or whatever. They didn’t have giant screens that controlled everything. They don’t need it. No your beef is with companies like Tesla, though they aren’t the only one . They do something and everyone copies them and the giant screens look nice. That’s the only reason they are a thing. If they fall in popularity, and they will, they will stop making them.
I unfortunately have first hand experience on working on these cars as a mechanic. We maintained one that was sold by us when it was like a year or two old with around 30k km's on the odometer. That customer drove it for 7 to 8 years and racked up the kilometers to 280k. I think we have replaced every component on that vehicle several times. What a terrible cars are these, still gives me headaches to this day.
What’s interesting about the Karma is that it was designed by Henrik FIsker the around the same time that Tesla had hired him for designing what would be the Model S, only for him to design them an egg. Tesla even sued him for purposely designing an egg, because they saw how beautiful the Karma was.
That seemed so obvious when I was watching it. All the other buttons worked when he touched them. Maybe this is him making a problem where there isn't one for the clicks.
About 7 years ago I did some valet work at an uptown high-rise in Dallas, TX. One of the residents owned a full-electric Fisker Karma and I had the chance to park it a couple times. The design and drive system were a bit weird to get used to, but it was sort of a cool car. At the very least, it's not like anything else out there! It's the only one I've ever seen in person.
Fisker was about 4 miles away. I saw employees driving them everyday from 2010 until they closed. I saw sagging headliners, panel gaps, and parts falling off.
I had seen one of these where the owner said the "reboot" or "reset" had to last something like 2 hours to truly reset it. It had to fully power down the "memory" of the infotainment system.
Before Fisker that factory In Finland built Saabs, Talbots, Lada Samaras, Opel Calibras, Porsche Boxters. Now they build some Mercedes models in that factory. I think all Saab 900 (older gen) cabrios were built there. I live about 30miles from there.
FWIW the first time I saw a Fisker was when one cut me off on my motorcycle. That, compounded by Hoovie's story and repeated Fisker-related bankruptcies has convinced me that being anywhere near one of these is bad karma.
10:11 The laggy infotainment system is likely due to the computer’s SSD (solid state drive) failing, which will cause pauses as it encounters errors and retries reads/writes over and over until it succeeds.
@@muskokamike127 - yes, they did exist. In fact, as far back as 2008 you could buy the then-new MacBook Air equipped with an SSD. Although the Fisker's computer is an embedded system (and not a personal computer), I would expect the engineers to have chosen a similar SSD. If they instead used a traditional hard drive, it would be extremely vulnerable to failure due to vibrations while driving.
@@muskokamike127Yes they did, solid state storage has existed for decades. The infotainment computer probably doesn't need very much capacity, as it only has to store the firmware. Also, a solid state drive is a much better choice for a car, since it won't be damaged by bumps and shakes like a mechanical drive would.
Thought the same. It probably has an eMMC drive, which was used in the first Model S's too. If you ever encounter an old cheap laptop that has an eMMC drive that is either full or failing it will behave just like you described and as shown in the video, laggy to the point of being unusable. A real SSD would probably be just fine, but those eMMC drives man are they crap. They were put into consumer grade cheap netbooks and laptops that were designed to shit themselves and become unusable in just over the warranty period so having one in a car is just asking for trouble and the manufacturers still did it! The cars software may not need much capacity, but if the drive is equally small it will have gathered an unbelievable amount of writes. And the file system it runs on is probably total crap too so over time it will just fill up to the brim as well, has no optimizations integrated into it etc.
Touch and hold the grey bar at the top of the fan circle and drag it clockwise around the circle to turn the hvac on. To turn it down drag the opposite direction around the circle.
It also is an older haptic design, so it operates more like a resistive display. Light, quick taps are kind of ignored from what I am reading. Use the pad of your finger and drag it like you are using a cheap Android phone. :)
Check the health and charge of both the 12 volt and big battery. Battery issues can cause all sorts of electrical gremlins. Remember, the AC is likely electric, too.`
The paint on them is actually fascinating. It is also irreplaceable and not possible to match. It is, like everything else, designed to be environmental. They use a fine recycled glass dust to give it the shimmer iirc. Really like the design principles for em.
Most of the 'green' tech ends up costing you thousands and having products scrapped early on their life. Like the biodegradable wiring harnesses on 1990's Mercedees. Or the water based paint which killed tens of thousands of W210 E-class due to rust...
@@Munakas-wq3gp Well, it isnt like biodegradable green. Is same type of paint overall that all cars use now. No, not durable like old paints. Just meant how they use a powdered glass vs metal flake.
Unlike all of traditional cars I have ever owned where buttons and switches and relays speedo's and fuel gauges and just about everything wears out or breaks. When fuel injection came out everyone with a Tune-Up shop complained because you don't need to see them when the weather changes to adjust the carbs or adjust valves or replace plugs every year. Every time new tech comes in to replace the old some luddite will complain.
@@atw9913buttons and switches have been used since the Industrial Revolution if not before and they don’t lag, if they break you replace it, with software your always limited by the processor and software which always become outdated, look at the PC market you buy a pc and a year later it’s outdated or phones no phone from 10 years ago holds up today. Infotainment is cool but keep essential components out of it,
You actually bought this? I was hoping you only rented it. Yup, this is the Hoovie we love. The man whose purpose in life, is to serve as a warning to the rest of us. What can we say? You have Bad Karma, lol.
Sad to see Fisker failed not only once but twice. His designs are just gorgeous inside and out. I really, even still now, wanted Fisker to succeed. I think the Ocean is pretty attractive and wouldn't be embarrassed to be seen in it. But man, these issues both with the product and the finances are very disappointing. Sad to say, but they'll be gone within the year.
Your timing is impeccable with Fisker (new) putting out their bankruptcy proposal. Hoovie, since you're a masochist for cars, I'm sure a new heavily discount Fisker ocean is on your radar. If I had $15,000 I would still buy one for a museum piece. In my opinion, one of the best looking cars /suv out there today.
@@codycrawford2385 only year of Model S i'd consider stunning is a 2012 in Signature Red. it's built like a rushed prototype, but at least it's got an exterior.
Honestly. Seeing all these cars today with just a tablet glued to the dash and no physical buttons for anything, you just know it's going to be slow and annoying within a decade. If it works at all.
@@TYSuggestedmost cars combine a digital cluster and display with physical buttons. Tesla amongst others are the ones that have basically no other buttons besides the steering wheel. Not all cars
If you're used to the heat and humidity, sure. But being in Kansas I'm sure he isn't used to that. I wouldn't want to be hot and sticky for hours on end with oven heat blowing in my face the whole time.
If you don’t have to do it, would you really drive like that? The misery can’t really be converted into video content, so I completely understand that he passes on this one.
Just wait. All those iPad style controls all infotainment units will eventually get old and slow like all electronics but those old school button units will still be the same as the day they came out.
Tyler! You are back!! lol Why don't you just get some new tires and leave your window rolled down? If it's just a flat spot issue you should be ok. No more flat spots and highway driving. Also give the infotainment system a chance to catch up. You know it's delayed so mashing a whole bunch of different commands makes it have a brain fart. By the time it's ready to do what you want it reacts to the next command before it starts.
What a ride. If you end up deciding to ship it to PA, I'm only 15-20 minutes from the Fisker specialist and would happily get you some wide-screen, color footage of the vehicle as it goes through the revitalizing process.
Come on Hoovie! If Monkey Wrench Mike and Randy can drive cross country in a hooptie convertible with the top broken in the down position and caught in rain storms, you can drive back to Kansas without A/C dude. Don't wuss out.
@@JonBlondell it's not about if Dereck would buy a Fisker but the fact that no A/C and a shaky steering wheel wont stop you from driving across the country.
I went to university in Florida. I had an old American POS (Chevy Nova) that didn't have A/C...well, it HAD A/C when it was new, not when I drove it. I used to keep a stash of extra shirts in the car because I'd often arrive at my destination drenched.
Ah the joys of aging electronics / computers in modern cars that make them pretty much unusable. A local owner of a 1970 Chrysler New Yorker is having a laugh every morning.
@@Beer_Dad1975 i know. my favorite car of all time would be a first gen R8, and then there's cars like the sls , gallardo , db9 etc that are obviously better. i went crazy due to this being a rare car and brand, and something i like - a designer risking it and doing his own take on a car like this, and i have mad respect for that even if it obviously didn't go well.
My keep forever car has analogue gauges, physical buttons, handbrake, manual with a petrol engine. Air conditioning too, I've gotten soft in my old age. :)
Driver's seat has A LOT of wear for 17,000 miles. Same thing with all those smudge prints up by the driver's sun visor. I'd expect those areas to look almost brand new with that low of miles.
I don't think the blower motor "failed again", I think the previous owner could fix it to begin with. He spent 8.5k and it was still broken so he just got rid of it lol. It looks to me like some weird software issue. But the fact that there are no authorized dealers and barely any parts at all could make fixing that extremely tough. The fix could be something like updating firmware or reflashing it - but the hardest part gonna be finding anyone who could possibly do it.
Hoovie, I'd wager the lack of response from the touch screen is a similar issue to one I had on Veloster Turbo I owned. The Florida sun and heat I think delaminated the capacitive touch layer of the screen or otherwise made it work less and less. Maybe the screen can be replaced. IDK. I ended up just getting rid of my Veloster. Florida is hard on cars, especially if you park outside without at least a covered car port.
I think it's an older haptic design, meaning it operates more like a resistive touch screen. You need to press on it a bit and hold it or use the pad of your finger. Tap it a little slower as well.
@@hokie9910 The issue is that the first generation of haptic screens was slow and had the crispness of a soggy potato chip. My guess is that somehow replacing the screen itself would solve it as WHEN it recognizes his input, it's quick enough.
My only memory of this car is my boss asking me to go fill it up and the damn thing just decided to not start for like 30 minutes. Then it just worked. 10/10
The funny thing to me is that the Fisker ocean had been driven and reviewed by numerous car reviewers on TH-cam and all of them basically gave it a pass. It wasn’t until a software/electronics reviewer MKBHD reviewed it and trashed it that everyone felt safe enough to turn on it and say that it wasn’t a good car. We already know that that’s because they themselves didn’t want to lose exclusive access to most of these companies newest automobiles because if they did, it would cut their TH-cam revenue. I drove the ocean in January. There were some glaring omissions there was nothing about it that made me hate it or think it was dangerous or a dealbreaker. It didn’t have ventilated or massaging seats and it also didn’t have autonomous driving but other than that, I actually liked it. The Ocean was the first car Fisker made that actually made sense.
According to Google AI: “ The Fisker Karma's climate control system uses steering controls to change the fan speed. Some say the climate control system works well in manual mode, but the interface is not ideal for driving. Others say the fans are too high and annoying in auto mode. ”
Seems to me 20 grand for a 12 YO car from an almost twice bankrupt company is not a bargain, despite it's sticker. When Doug Demuro reviewed one a couple years ago and called it a good price at 40, I thought he was nuts. But that is the thought process of tubers who have made it big and are buying what gets the views. I do think the car is a great looking design.
@xavierramirez330 what do you mean that's not the problem lol... You can't get the batteries anymore, and the engine is a dinky little ecotec. Electric cars are trash after 10 years.
@@xavierramirez330 yeah... you rip the existing harness out.. install a new harness from Painless... splice in your creature comforts and enjoy. It's not rocket science.
When you have a laggy computer...the LAST thing you should be doing is punching multiple buttons quickly in exasperation as this just guarantees that you'll get nowhere. Each input IS registered and it begins to execute that command only to be interrupted by the next input which makes it stop and start on the new command. Hit what you want....accept that it's going to take it a bit to get where you told it to go and it will!! Impatience with slow equipment just means you create more problems than actually exist.
Gorgeous cars! There’s a car museum called ‘Double Red’ in my gf’s home town Brezno Slovakia, they have a silver one so I’ve had the pleasure of being up close to them. Beautiful designs
My word, you live up to the byline of your videos. Didn't you see the history of these cars? You had to have known since you were able to list them, yet here you are. Well, you can LS swap it.
We’ve had smart phones for almost 20 years, and the eventual degradation of performance is a widely known phenomenon. Why would anyone expect car’s with touchscreen controls are any different from a smartphone?
Slightly different. We constantly are loading a phone with more and more apps. Leading to bloat and performance issues. A cars infotainment system basically stays in the same shape as when delivered. So it shouldn’t really have so much lag, especially with that low mileage
My close friends parents helped invest in the start up of this company back in 2010 and within 3 years they got screwed and I don’t remember seeing a karma parked anymore
one more thing, you just reminded me of a hard reset I did on a Ford Edge rear life gate malfunction, here’s the procedure, disconnect the 12 volt battery cables completely, negative and positive, charge the battery overnight, then disconnect the charger and reconnect the battery cables, if you can cycle the computer on and off 3 times then go for a drive and see if anything has been improved, also on the Edge I simply pull out the rear lift gate fuse F59 and it won’t go crazy anymore, thinking these car computers need to be rebooted from time to time, good luck
Better help just seems like a scam company. If they were legit therapist they wouldn't be working for an app based company, they'd have their own practice charging much more than they get working for Better help. Plus I've read they've been caught using AI for their chat based help and have caught attention for their therapist suggesting awful things as solutions to problems that people talk about.
For as old as it is, it still looks modern as if it were produced today.. while these may be a pos versus other electric or hybrid cars, especially with their horrible proprietary software/infotainment system.. if you ignore these flaws and treat it like an older car that has no infotainment system, it’s a great vehicle to drive around rather than the cheapest base model Honda, Toyota, etc vehicle at about the same price. Furthermore, if you ignore the electric.. the fact it gets plenty of range with it’s combustion engine as well, you can pretty much pretend it's not a hybrid and just drive it around in sport mode all the time and treat like any other ice car. May be worth to just install an aftermarket on/off switches for the A/C and Heater by wiring them directly to the relays that control those, and an aftermarket bluetooth radio, and you'll be all set and can write off the horrible built in infotainment.
Karma's engine does not get great range at all. Karma is a 5100 lb vehicle with a 9 gallon fuel tank. That engine is also rated for 21 mpg combined in the Cobalt SS and Solstice GXP, which are less than 3000 lbs in weight.
@@PURENT if you check the fisker buzz forums, there are posts from owners who drive their Karma's purely in "sport mode" which operates the car purely in an ice mode, and the 50 mile range battery they keep as a backup for if fuel gets low. But those users report decent gas ranges of about 200 miles.. which imo isn't bad for an ice car of this type/styling, which often have mediocre gas milage too.
@@LycanWitch You gotta really drive it like a grandma to squeeze out decent MPG out of that engine. It's a 2 liter, but it's definitely not great on gas unless you stay off the turbo. Problem is the turbo kicks in at as little as 2500 rpm.
This is funny, I was on Facebook marketplace the other night browsing cars and there was a guy in FRESNO, I think.. he was selling his fisker karma but he actually had 2 of them and he said it was a buy 1 get 1 free.. lmao.. he was selling them “cheap” too, I believe he wanted less than $30k and he did sell them
I was so close to meet Hoovie. I was walking around Barrett Jackson wondering if Tyler was there. Later that day I was watching the auction and Tyler was working the floor.
Sick of these BetterHelp ads. I sincerely doubt you used it once and if you did it was probably only once. You're just peddling whatever product someone will pay you money to push onto your subs. Most of your subs realize it's garbage and will never use it, but you are hurting the ones who do use it. You are taking advantage of the trust your subscribers have in you.
I have owned Few Fisker Karma's (3 plus tested more than 10) and still kept my first one since 10 years. I can say that it is by far the best car I have ever owned !!! 133'000km without any trouble. I agree yours looks a bit garbage and slow in soft but you can't generalize and say that the car itself is a disaster since it is not and you don't have a long experience of it. If you would have bought your car from a real specialist (like Evolutionautosports in US for exemple), it would have been an other speech. All the owners that bought from him are 100% happy. If anyone has a question about that car, I would be happy to help and answer.
One small correction: The Karma Revero built by chinese-owned Karma Automotive is still just a PHEV, not a full EV. Afaik, it's also still in production today as the Revero GT and GTS.
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This is the hoovie I like seeing. Absolutely wasting his money on complete hot garbage that none of us would have the balls to buy.
You mean as opposed to the new Hoovie that is gobsmacked with his new girlfriend?
@@TheJeffcurranWhat’s wrong with tossing a hot model girlfriend who also like cars in the mix?
@@hippievan4040the videos after the separation were a weird time though...
Exactly. There's more content to actually watch and learn. Nobody wants a disaster themselves, but i'd rather watch this than somebody just showing off their cool car.
@TheJeffcurran She's hot? Thought his wife was was prettier
I'm a certified Fisker Karma and Revero tech and have fixed hundreds of these cars. Honestly if you need help with parts and how to fix these, let me know. Almost all the issues are pretty easy to fix
I was going to say I know that they were fixing these even years after the bankruptcy. I'm assuming they still are. He should just take it to them or find people like you
Do you know why the blower wasn’t working?
Do you know a way to upgrade the computer for the infotainment system?
@@BenGreggSweden I'd really like to know that as well.
This would be very valuable for Karma owners.
Bob Lutz had the right idea when he suggested putting a LS7 in these.
I sure would like to drive Bob Lutz fever dream V8 version
Didn’t he actually set up a company to convert some? He probably didn’t touch the infotainment system. Least investment, highest return fever nightmare.
I have an old Toyota 20R four banger in the back of my garage. 😃
That's exactly what i said! Good candidate for an LS swap! 🤣🤣
@@jeffrobodine8579 I like the way you think
I live in Finland, I was driving a taxi when Fisker started to build those here, so the car was on the news for a period of time. I was talking cars with this sweet older woman. She knew somewhat of much about cars. Well we happen to roll up to a traffic lights right next to a Fisker Karma. The old lady said .. "Oh, look it´s a Fister .. " do you know how hard it is to keep a straight face for 6 kilometers (3,75 miles)? After that I had a bit of a laughing session.
Lol fister
Maybe she was a GTA player, can’t remember what brand it rips off but there’s a Pfister brand in it 😂
@@danr3199 Pfister is Porsche in GTA, while Hijak is Fisker.
I'm sure Hoovie feels like it's a Fister
Ralli-englanti on niin ihanaa! I imagined her saying that in a heavy Finnish accent and could not stop laughing.
I remember seeing one while vacationing in California circa 2012. They were brand new. It was such a stunningly beautiful design back in 2012. I had no clue what it was, but the owner was very friendly and also willing to answer any questions.
Your cuts to an ad for “better help” straight from a manic episode of total self destruction is pure gold.
"I went to better help when I needed to talk to someone" yeah, that's not the endorsement you think it is lol
#AwkwardTeenHoovie
Ah Better Help, because good mental health is a luxury that can be exploited in a time where mental illness seems to be on a exponential curve
This.
And also in some videos he sponsors gambling and betting apps… a known addictive problem financially that people seek therapy for
The man you bought that off literally danced his way to the Bank.
And he didn't need a therapist.
And Hoovie got... _Instant Karma_
He drove a Fisker Karma for 18,000 miles. He deserved every penny.
I'm not so sure about that. He just spent $8500 on repairs and it still isn't fixed plus probably lost about $90,000 on depreciation. But I am sure he was happy to get rid of it!
After spending over $200k new and only putting 16k miles on it over a 21 year period then selling it for $20k? Yeah, I don't think he was skipping anywhere... Lol
No joke.... there is a homeless person living out of one of these where I live. I like to imagine he was a successful person bankrupt by the terrible decision to buy a Karma.
Karma, indeed.
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@@andrewthomason3857Lmao 🤣 you're reply is better than the original post.
I'm laughing on the toilet mate.
Genius reply!
😂😂😂
It's a fancy way to be homeless... he's like the King of Hobos in this beauty :D
Tyler discovering why they went bankrupt. I'll never forget going to the dealer to see one, and they wouldn't let me touch the $220k Karma. They wanted me to put down a $15k deposit before I could drive it. It really was perfume on a pig. It an expensive Chevy Volt, but the Volt was light years better.
I would take a Cadillac ELR over the Fisker. Or just stick with a Volt.
Now 15k I can practical buy one.
Was the deposit refundable? What did you like/not like about the Fisker?
@@CarGeek360The deposit _has to_ be refundable. Otherwise it's the world's most expensive car rental.
@@BogeyTheBear maybe but again Fisker seems like a weird company so it might’ve not been refundable
The CIU (center screen computer) is probably halfway dead due to water ingress around the cabin air filter seal. This was a huge problem with these cars and the entire drainage system was modified when Karma Automotive brought them back in 2018.
Its a 12 year old hybrid from the first era of the hybrids from an extremely niche car maker. I would expect nothing less than it to be a junker.
True...but the biggest issue appears to be the entertainment system? Not something complicated or new in any sense. Still like you said not surprised lmao
First era of hybrids was the late 90's Honda Insight and Toyota Prius
This is more like a like 4th gen hybrid. It's just a really shitty example of one.
They were junk when new. Mac miller was given one on his show and it broke down in the middle of the highway 🤣
Chevy got it done much better with the volt
My grandfather was pretty wealthy and lived in a community with tons of other luxury cars in Boyton Beach. Lots of 7 series, S class, Bentley and the occasional Rolls. When this car was brand new I was in the Boynton Beach mall with him. We saw it in a beautiful metallic brown karma revero from across the mall. My grandfather called the dealer (Lamborgini of West Palm Beach).
Upon arriving, he ignored the beautiful green Aventador S that Marques Brownlee was filming with (episode 2 of auto focus). After ignoring many other Lamborginis, he walked right past a Porsche 918, thinking nothing of it, until he saw the Brown Karma Revero. The cool factor was through the roof, everywhere he went people asked what it was! That's in West Palm Beach too!
He loved the car in every way. He barely needed gas between the hybrid and how little he drove lol. He paid ~$1,000/m on a lease because they couldn't give them away if they tried at the time. The only issue he ever had during ownership (because he barely drove) was a valet crushed the radiator and a few other front end components. All of which were basically made to order at this point. Between damage and lost time, the insurance claim basically paid for the whole lease. He was so happy.
He contemplated buying it after the lease because he loved it so much. THANKFULLY he did not.
Great memories with the Fisker Karma! Still a sh*tbox though.
Love this story
How long ago was that...?
@@marknewman9430 This was summer of 2018 or 2019.
Yep, Lamborghini dealer here in Michigan had them for sale too, really cool looking car, still very cool looking car. Fisker great at design, bad at making cars. LOL
@@eFxAstrodidn’t they come out in 2012 though? So they weren’t brand new.
A customer of mine at a pizza job I had years ago had one of these. He was one of the earliest supporters and he regretted every single second of it. If you asked him about the car and what it was you had better be prepared for at least 5 minutes of "This company sucks and has screwed me ever since I got it"
Sounds just like Tesla! 😂
And now they are back from insolvency again with a slightly different name trying to sell more half-baked garbage. Glad it looks like once again they will be going down the gurgler soon.
@@therationalistparty9742 As poorly made as Tesla's are, and as poor as their after sales support is - they are at least reasonably functional as transport - the Fisker really never was - and the new ones are more of the same apparently.
What's a Pizza 🍕 Job? Like the Italian Job? You're only supposed to blow the bloody doors off mate.
@@therationalistparty9742 Tesla is the bestselling car brand in several countries and I love mine never had any issues. have had many luxury cars from shitty new jaguars to bmws and Tesla and Mercedes are the best. I do love my 16 land cruiser and 08 range rover supercharged but they are a waste of gas these days. Tesla Full self driving is also amazing. but if you have never owned one you should not comment what do you know.
Fisker Karma, the type of car that has an infotainment system that only responds to the touch of Doug Demuro
That Fisker specialist in the philly suburbs is like 5 mins from my house, just down the block from my detailer. Any time I'm in the area it's not unusual to see a Fisker rolling around, whereas usually I never see them. Met some of the guys who work there at a car meet, cool group!
My neighbor has one. I've lived in that house for 2.5 years, and I don't think it's left his driveway 😂
It is a good-looking driveway ornament.
those 50 electric miles dude, you just never HEARD it leave xD
You've lived in your neighbor's house?
@@azmike3572 bottom feeder lol
@@basshead. ??
You mean the owner was intentionally out of the country to avoid having to be present when the new owner (Hoovie) showed to pick up the piece of junk. He left the warehouse picker on charge of the hand off. LMAO
SURE it was an employee and not actually the owner 😂. How convenient.
LMAO that dude never left the country.
@@venom5809well he did… after Hoovie gave him the money 😂
I'm not sure but try and spin the "wheel fan" in the climate control instead of tapping it or try and spin the silver bar
This is what I was thinking, it seems like it might just be a bad GUI issue. There is a gray bar sticking straight up, I'm thinking if you try to "spin" that around the center "wheel" it might work? Though it might not be responsive enough for any of that
It s showing 0 degrees F for the outside temp. Looks like the ambient temperature sensor is malfunctioning, preventing the auto climate control from working. Common problem with modern European cars.
with that lag it wouldnt be great
It was designed in the era of the iPod, so yes, everything operates like an iPod wheel.
@@plektosgaming well no, this was 12 years later than the ipod wheel...
All I could focus on for the entire video was the fact that the front end has been resprayed and repainted. The passenger headlight is also misaligned and has a huge gap there.
Hopefully the title reflects this and I just missed Tyler mentioning it
Please bring back switches and knobs. I still remember the wonderful tactile feeling of the variable speed switch in a 1987 Acura legend. And the satisfying click and IMMEDIATE response of the directional indicator that gave me the options of where the air went.
The problematic and expensive infotainment bullshit that controls everything is a horrible idea.
It's not luxury when the AC doesn't work because the touch screen is broken and will cost 4 grand to fix it.
Not to mention a screen made for Europe will melt in Australia.
Probably never coming back. Every car needs a giant screen due to the backup camera mandate "anything for safety!!!!!!" and even then, like your directional, most physical buttons will be controlled by a computer. Buy older cars and fix them, people balk at spending $20k fixing up an old car but will spend $40k to buy a new one that won't last as long...
My 86 F150 does only what I tell it to. Manual transmission, manual 4x4 locking hubs, manual brakes, manual crank windows, and no nav system. My 2010 Yaris is similar with crank windows, manual mirrors, manual climate control, no remote control locks...I would gladly sink another $10k in it for new engine and transmission if they go out!
@@randomvideosn0whereI have a backup camera. It doesn’t need a giant screen. Infotainment centers are great but controls for volume and climate control need to be tactile for safety. Yes anything for safety when it comes to car design and that’s why we need tactile switches back. You could control everything without looking up from the road.
The issue isn’t some backup camera mandate man. As tech progresses so should our safety standards. If they didn’t we would still have cars like the 50s. Solid and built like a tank but killed people because it didn’t have any crunch zones. It would transfer all the energy from the crash to the people inside instead of absorbing it. When we knew how to prevent that we made it mandatory. When we know better we do better.
Same with backup cameras, though that’s pretty old tech anyway, they’ve been around forever companies just liked charging more for it in their luxury packages or whatever. They didn’t have giant screens that controlled everything. They don’t need it.
No your beef is with companies like Tesla, though they aren’t the only one . They do something and everyone copies them and the giant screens look nice. That’s the only reason they are a thing. If they fall in popularity, and they will, they will stop making them.
@@randomvideosn0wherebackup cameras are great and have nothing to do with the overuse of screens in newer cars
I unfortunately have first hand experience on working on these cars as a mechanic. We maintained one that was sold by us when it was like a year or two old with around 30k km's on the odometer.
That customer drove it for 7 to 8 years and racked up the kilometers to 280k. I think we have replaced every component on that vehicle several times. What a terrible cars are these, still gives me headaches to this day.
I've always been curious, which dealer or shop takes car of these cars when they're under warranty?
What’s interesting about the Karma is that it was designed by Henrik FIsker the around the same time that Tesla had hired him for designing what would be the Model S, only for him to design them an egg. Tesla even sued him for purposely designing an egg, because they saw how beautiful the Karma was.
He truly got his Karma
Must've doubled down on the egg aesthetic with the Model X.
And Tesla lost and had to pay 1,144,285 USD
@@9023gregb The X is truly a car with no identity whatsoever. A featureless barren desert of design.
Yet Tesla had no issue with designing the triangle refrigerator commonly called, the Cybertruck.
Try sliding your finger around the fan circle
That seemed so obvious when I was watching it. All the other buttons worked when he touched them. Maybe this is him making a problem where there isn't one for the clicks.
yup
Exactly. It's a dial, you have to "turn" it
It was frustrating to watch Hoover over it and not slide the dial… come on man.. figure it out.. you are not that old yet
I wondered about that myself. I compared it to the Escalade sliders on their dashboard.
I have always loved the design and look of them. Absolutely stunning
About 7 years ago I did some valet work at an uptown high-rise in Dallas, TX. One of the residents owned a full-electric Fisker Karma and I had the chance to park it a couple times. The design and drive system were a bit weird to get used to, but it was sort of a cool car. At the very least, it's not like anything else out there! It's the only one I've ever seen in person.
Fisker was about 4 miles away.
I saw employees driving them everyday from 2010 until they closed. I saw sagging headliners, panel gaps, and parts falling off.
As a Dane id like to apologize for this.. In our defense we also have Zenvo.. Please forgive us
Zenvo? REALLY...is that something to be proud of?
Shmee’s Zenvo seems to spend more time at the factory than it does with him
Hoiiii goiissss I'm thhhhmeeeeeeeee
Stick to pillaging villages along the coast 😂
@@jaspardark7938 Irony... Not your strong suit?
Thought that the "Please forgive us" afterwards kinda gave it away.. Jfc 🤣
I had seen one of these where the owner said the "reboot" or "reset" had to last something like 2 hours to truly reset it. It had to fully power down the "memory" of the infotainment system.
Yeah, lots of caps that take a while to discharge
Sounds like with a Tesla, you get to work and plug it in, with this one you drive to work and disconnect it so you can drive home lol
So odd the solar panel cant charge the battery..thats such a simple thing
Before Fisker that factory In Finland built Saabs, Talbots, Lada Samaras, Opel Calibras, Porsche Boxters.
Now they build some Mercedes models in that factory.
I think all Saab 900 (older gen) cabrios were built there.
I live about 30miles from there.
And the only place the new AMG C class is built.
FWIW the first time I saw a Fisker was when one cut me off on my motorcycle. That, compounded by Hoovie's story and repeated Fisker-related bankruptcies has convinced me that being anywhere near one of these is bad karma.
10:11 The laggy infotainment system is likely due to the computer’s SSD (solid state drive) failing, which will cause pauses as it encounters errors and retries reads/writes over and over until it succeeds.
did they even have ssd's 12 yrs ago?
@@muskokamike127 - yes, they did exist. In fact, as far back as 2008 you could buy the then-new MacBook Air equipped with an SSD. Although the Fisker's computer is an embedded system (and not a personal computer), I would expect the engineers to have chosen a similar SSD. If they instead used a traditional hard drive, it would be extremely vulnerable to failure due to vibrations while driving.
@@muskokamike127Yes they did, solid state storage has existed for decades. The infotainment computer probably doesn't need very much capacity, as it only has to store the firmware.
Also, a solid state drive is a much better choice for a car, since it won't be damaged by bumps and shakes like a mechanical drive would.
Thought the same. It probably has an eMMC drive, which was used in the first Model S's too. If you ever encounter an old cheap laptop that has an eMMC drive that is either full or failing it will behave just like you described and as shown in the video, laggy to the point of being unusable. A real SSD would probably be just fine, but those eMMC drives man are they crap. They were put into consumer grade cheap netbooks and laptops that were designed to shit themselves and become unusable in just over the warranty period so having one in a car is just asking for trouble and the manufacturers still did it! The cars software may not need much capacity, but if the drive is equally small it will have gathered an unbelievable amount of writes. And the file system it runs on is probably total crap too so over time it will just fill up to the brim as well, has no optimizations integrated into it etc.
@@nomadben ok, great, thanks for verification, and you're right, they are more robust than std HDD.
Touch and hold the grey bar at the top of the fan circle and drag it clockwise around the circle to turn the hvac on. To turn it down drag the opposite direction around the circle.
It also is an older haptic design, so it operates more like a resistive display. Light, quick taps are kind of ignored from what I am reading. Use the pad of your finger and drag it like you are using a cheap Android phone. :)
The outside of the car looks beautiful!
The interior looks nice.
Unfortunately, it goes downhill from there. Basically, it's a pile!
Going downhill is what this car is best at.
Check the health and charge of both the 12 volt and big battery. Battery issues can cause all sorts of electrical gremlins. Remember, the AC is likely electric, too.`
I live in Sacramento and just recently this morning, the local news explained that Fisker is in big trouble bankruptcy….
The paint on them is actually fascinating. It is also irreplaceable and not possible to match. It is, like everything else, designed to be environmental. They use a fine recycled glass dust to give it the shimmer iirc. Really like the design principles for em.
Most of the 'green' tech ends up costing you thousands and having products scrapped early on their life. Like the biodegradable wiring harnesses on 1990's Mercedees. Or the water based paint which killed tens of thousands of W210 E-class due to rust...
@@Munakas-wq3gp Well, it isnt like biodegradable green. Is same type of paint overall that all cars use now. No, not durable like old paints. Just meant how they use a powdered glass vs metal flake.
This is the future of all these glass dashboard cars that hide everything in the touch screen under layers of menus
Unlike all of traditional cars I have ever owned where buttons and switches and relays speedo's and fuel gauges and just about everything wears out or breaks. When fuel injection came out everyone with a Tune-Up shop complained because you don't need to see them when the weather changes to adjust the carbs or adjust valves or replace plugs every year. Every time new tech comes in to replace the old some luddite will complain.
@atw9913 yes but buttons and switches don't lag.... your comment is irrelevant
@@atw9913if you’re having those issues, I’d suggest you fix yourself. Buttons and switches last
@@paulcarmi8130 you are being purposely obtuse. the point is that switchs and buttons also will break
@@atw9913buttons and switches have been used since the Industrial Revolution if not before and they don’t lag, if they break you replace it, with software your always limited by the processor and software which always become outdated, look at the PC market you buy a pc and a year later it’s outdated or phones no phone from 10 years ago holds up today. Infotainment is cool but keep essential components out of it,
You actually bought this? I was hoping you only rented it. Yup, this is the Hoovie we love. The man whose purpose in life, is to serve as a warning to the rest of us. What can we say? You have Bad Karma, lol.
LoL
I love that they took the buttons off of a Chevy Cruze steering wheel and rotated them 90º and called it a day.
Sad to see Fisker failed not only once but twice. His designs are just gorgeous inside and out. I really, even still now, wanted Fisker to succeed. I think the Ocean is pretty attractive and wouldn't be embarrassed to be seen in it. But man, these issues both with the product and the finances are very disappointing. Sad to say, but they'll be gone within the year.
It is called Bring a trailer for a reason 😂
Your timing is impeccable with Fisker (new) putting out their bankruptcy proposal. Hoovie, since you're a masochist for cars, I'm sure a new heavily discount Fisker ocean is on your radar. If I had $15,000 I would still buy one for a museum piece. In my opinion, one of the best looking cars /suv out there today.
I LOVE these a lot, the whole concept is beautiful, the interior is probably my favorite part
Blink twice if you're OK
@@GlitterGuru maybe they are not great reliability wise but still pretty and looks better than a ugly Tesla
@@codycrawford2385 only year of Model S i'd consider stunning is a 2012 in Signature Red. it's built like a rushed prototype, but at least it's got an exterior.
but yeah i think the Maserati Quattroporte of 2004 is above both the Karma and Model S
@@waheeddoesstuff it’s still ugly teslas are not quality built and look cheap as hell
Always loved the looks of these cars and wanted to get one when they got more affordable. Glad Hoovie showed me that it's not worth it at any price!
I hope you are safe from all these tornadoes. At Wichita it hit hard be safe and hope we continue to watch your videos.
This is why I want buttons and switches, even for cars where the manufacturer hasn't gone toes-up.
Honestly.
Seeing all these cars today with just a tablet glued to the dash and no physical buttons for anything, you just know it's going to be slow and annoying within a decade. If it works at all.
@@TYSuggestedmost cars combine a digital cluster and display with physical buttons. Tesla amongst others are the ones that have basically no other buttons besides the steering wheel. Not all cars
Just drive home with the windows down bro - what a princess !👸
I know right? 40C up here in the summer...."do I put the a/c on"? "naw, I'll roll down the windows".....
@@muskokamike127 But then that front-mounted exhaust gets sucked right into your face . . .
Nah fuck that
If you're used to the heat and humidity, sure. But being in Kansas I'm sure he isn't used to that. I wouldn't want to be hot and sticky for hours on end with oven heat blowing in my face the whole time.
If you don’t have to do it, would you really drive like that?
The misery can’t really be converted into video content, so I completely understand that he passes on this one.
Just wait. All those iPad style controls all infotainment units will eventually get old and slow like all electronics but those old school button units will still be the same as the day they came out.
Laughs in sticky rubber buttons.
You must own a early 2000 GM 😂
Those old school buttons, stick and break all the time.
@@spencers4121 Yeah but they are easier to fix
yes old is better
Tyler! You are back!! lol Why don't you just get some new tires and leave your window rolled down? If it's just a flat spot issue you should be ok. No more flat spots and highway driving. Also give the infotainment system a chance to catch up. You know it's delayed so mashing a whole bunch of different commands makes it have a brain fart. By the time it's ready to do what you want it reacts to the next command before it starts.
What a ride.
If you end up deciding to ship it to PA, I'm only 15-20 minutes from the Fisker specialist and would happily get you some wide-screen, color footage of the vehicle as it goes through the revitalizing process.
The Fisker Karma is the hot chick that every other guy is tired of dealing with.
Come on Hoovie! If Monkey Wrench Mike and Randy can drive cross country in a hooptie convertible with the top broken in the down position and caught in rain storms, you can drive back to Kansas without A/C dude. Don't wuss out.
This! Our man is sliding harder and harder into clickbait frenzy, to the point where he doesn't even ride his cars if not pristine.
Drive it at night! Cooler temps.
Especially to save $4-5k!
Fisker is now on par with Edsel in terms of failure.
Edsel was a functional car.
Most call them, “FISTER”. 👊✊
Bro your tapping a knob touch the dial and drag it don't tap it all over 😂
Was that Leo DiCrapio’s “Fister”? 👊👊👊✊✊✊😩
You are no Vice Grip Garage. He would be heading home and be halfway there.
No A/C and square tires ? That's a goin' to town rig !
My thought exactly…Too hot 😂..open the windows and crank some tunes.. Drive it till it don’t drive anymore !
No, he wouldn’t touch this.
@@JonBlondell it's not about if Dereck would buy a Fisker but the fact that no A/C and a shaky steering wheel wont stop you from driving across the country.
The ol' "Out of the country" previous owner 😂🤣
:) Owner actually peering from behind the curtains, watching it leave the driveway while friend poses as 'employee'.
Hoovie, Drive it north 3 hours the hot weather will dissappear. Balance the wheels for $50. Come on Man!
agree,, what a wussie. they make short pants, now. LOL
Calling the mechanic and him telling you about the church when you talk about your bad karma is priceless, though!
I went to university in Florida. I had an old American POS (Chevy Nova) that didn't have A/C...well, it HAD A/C when it was new, not when I drove it. I used to keep a stash of extra shirts in the car because I'd often arrive at my destination drenched.
First thought was fumes from the exhaust coming into the car if you’re driving with the windows open
What a dumb thought.
Typical stupidity from a Hoovie fan.
Ah the joys of aging electronics / computers in modern cars that make them pretty much unusable. A local owner of a 1970 Chrysler New Yorker is having a laugh every morning.
Comparing an aged start up to the cars we have now is crazy.
@@rylans.5365
Tesla will age exactly the same way
@@theshadowman1398 Tesla infotainment system is actually usable and responsive and it will continue to be usable in 10 years
saw a white one on the highway here in south florida, i went crazy! these are rare and so beautiful
There are plenty of much better looking cars that aren't complete sh*the*ps though.
@@Beer_Dad1975 i know. my favorite car of all time would be a first gen R8, and then there's cars like the sls , gallardo , db9 etc that are obviously better. i went crazy due to this being a rare car and brand, and something i like - a designer risking it and doing his own take on a car like this, and i have mad respect for that even if it obviously didn't go well.
@@Ricys Understand 👍👍
@Ricys those are shit too 😂😂😂
My keep forever car has analogue gauges, physical buttons, handbrake, manual with a petrol engine. Air conditioning too, I've gotten soft in my old age. :)
Driver's seat has A LOT of wear for 17,000 miles. Same thing with all those smudge prints up by the driver's sun visor. I'd expect those areas to look almost brand new with that low of miles.
I don't think the blower motor "failed again", I think the previous owner could fix it to begin with. He spent 8.5k and it was still broken so he just got rid of it lol.
It looks to me like some weird software issue. But the fact that there are no authorized dealers and barely any parts at all could make fixing that extremely tough. The fix could be something like updating firmware or reflashing it - but the hardest part gonna be finding anyone who could possibly do it.
This is the fun of having everything on a locked down piece of touch screen technology.
Hoovie, I'd wager the lack of response from the touch screen is a similar issue to one I had on Veloster Turbo I owned. The Florida sun and heat I think delaminated the capacitive touch layer of the screen or otherwise made it work less and less. Maybe the screen can be replaced. IDK. I ended up just getting rid of my Veloster.
Florida is hard on cars, especially if you park outside without at least a covered car port.
Yeah needs a new digitizer probably. Try a credit card Hoovie and see if that allows the AC to turn on.
I think it's an older haptic design, meaning it operates more like a resistive touch screen. You need to press on it a bit and hold it or use the pad of your finger. Tap it a little slower as well.
Somehow Lexus has never had these problems even on 30 year old cars.
@@hokie9910 The issue is that the first generation of haptic screens was slow and had the crispness of a soggy potato chip. My guess is that somehow replacing the screen itself would solve it as WHEN it recognizes his input, it's quick enough.
@@plektosgaming junk.
My favorite TH-cam channel is Hoovie’s Garage!
🤓
Ok hoovie
My only memory of this car is my boss asking me to go fill it up and the damn thing just decided to not start for like 30 minutes. Then it just worked. 10/10
I love the styling on the Karma, but if I was ever to own one it would have to have an LS swap!
Watched Doug’s video before buying it… and still bought it😂
I think you could stop by and see a certain chicken farmer. I'm sure he's willing to sell you a hooptie or two to make it back to Kansas! 😁
Oh no, this may hurt Fisker's stock haha! :D
Different companies
This is not the first time that have suffered😊
Nice return to form Hoovie. Enjoyed this episode and will be following along.
The funny thing to me is that the Fisker ocean had been driven and reviewed by numerous car reviewers on TH-cam and all of them basically gave it a pass.
It wasn’t until a software/electronics reviewer MKBHD reviewed it and trashed it that everyone felt safe enough to turn on it and say that it wasn’t a good car.
We already know that that’s because they themselves didn’t want to lose exclusive access to most of these companies newest automobiles because if they did, it would cut their TH-cam revenue.
I drove the ocean in January. There were some glaring omissions there was nothing about it that made me hate it or think it was dangerous or a dealbreaker.
It didn’t have ventilated or massaging seats and it also didn’t have autonomous driving but other than that, I actually liked it.
The Ocean was the first car Fisker made that actually made sense.
6:59 - My car has paddle shifters too.
They shift the radio stations and the volume!
Sounds like a Dacia 😂
@@s13zenki - Chevy
Tyler, just buy a 1993 Honda Civic or Accord for once😅
It would get you home for sure.
According to Google AI:
“ The Fisker Karma's climate control system uses steering controls to change the fan speed. Some say the climate control system works well in manual mode, but the interface is not ideal for driving. Others say the fans are too high and annoying in auto mode. ”
I really hope they license/sell the body to another car company. I think its an amazing looking car and would love to see it given a proper chance.
Wow those touch screen interfaces are a big improvement over knobs and buttons.
Seems to me 20 grand for a 12 YO car from an almost twice bankrupt company is not a bargain, despite it's sticker. When Doug Demuro reviewed one a couple years ago and called it a good price at 40, I thought he was nuts. But that is the thought process of tubers who have made it big and are buying what gets the views. I do think the car is a great looking design.
It's a great car brother chilllll your zill
@@cds5067 If its a great car, why has it now failed twice? And what is "zill"?
Yes! Was waiting for Tyler to scoop one of these up. The price is so low. I'd just LS swap that shit 😂
Thats not the problem. The problem is all the ecu modules and stuff that control the car. Not the engine
Yes! Name it Apollo 2 ! :), don't track it tought...
@xavierramirez330 what do you mean that's not the problem lol... You can't get the batteries anymore, and the engine is a dinky little ecotec. Electric cars are trash after 10 years.
@kc550 like I said the main issue is what controls all the electronics. Changing the engine will not solve any of that
@@xavierramirez330 yeah... you rip the existing harness out.. install a new harness from Painless... splice in your creature comforts and enjoy. It's not rocket science.
When you have a laggy computer...the LAST thing you should be doing is punching multiple buttons quickly in exasperation as this just guarantees that you'll get nowhere. Each input IS registered and it begins to execute that command only to be interrupted by the next input which makes it stop and start on the new command. Hit what you want....accept that it's going to take it a bit to get where you told it to go and it will!! Impatience with slow equipment just means you create more problems than actually exist.
The best possible TH-camr to show off this (in)famous car. Thanx Hoovie, safe travels
Gorgeous cars! There’s a car museum called ‘Double Red’ in my gf’s home town Brezno Slovakia, they have a silver one so I’ve had the pleasure of being up close to them. Beautiful designs
My word, you live up to the byline of your videos. Didn't you see the history of these cars? You had to have known since you were able to list them, yet here you are. Well, you can LS swap it.
I never have been able to get over that car's mustache...
That front end is butt ugly! That exhaust was designed for use in a closed garage,after you realize what you've bought.
We’ve had smart phones for almost 20 years, and the eventual degradation of performance is a widely known phenomenon. Why would anyone expect car’s with touchscreen controls are any different from a smartphone?
Slightly different. We constantly are loading a phone with more and more apps. Leading to bloat and performance issues. A cars infotainment system basically stays in the same shape as when delivered. So it shouldn’t really have so much lag, especially with that low mileage
My close friends parents helped invest in the start up of this company back in 2010 and within 3 years they got screwed and I don’t remember seeing a karma parked anymore
one more thing, you just reminded me of a hard reset I did on a Ford Edge rear life gate malfunction, here’s the procedure, disconnect the 12 volt battery cables completely, negative and positive, charge the battery overnight, then disconnect the charger and reconnect the battery cables, if you can cycle the computer on and off 3 times then go for a drive and see if anything has been improved, also on the Edge I simply pull out the rear lift gate fuse F59 and it won’t go crazy anymore, thinking these car computers need to be rebooted from time to time, good luck
Loose, heavy, triangular pieces of glass flying around inside the car? Yeah that can’t be good.
It's just transparent plastic... I still wouldn't want it in my eyes though.
no man what could possibly go wrong
1:57 - I imagine that the betterhelp marriage counseling leaves a lot to be desired.
He’ll be needing it when he gets cleaned out again
Yea sadly dont see the new one lasting. Fair play shes a stunner. But sad to say some women are on a grift.
@Rambogner man he's already in over his head on that property you know she wanted and remodeled
He seems incapable of learning from his mistakes
Better help just seems like a scam company. If they were legit therapist they wouldn't be working for an app based company, they'd have their own practice charging much more than they get working for Better help. Plus I've read they've been caught using AI for their chat based help and have caught attention for their therapist suggesting awful things as solutions to problems that people talk about.
For as old as it is, it still looks modern as if it were produced today.. while these may be a pos versus other electric or hybrid cars, especially with their horrible proprietary software/infotainment system.. if you ignore these flaws and treat it like an older car that has no infotainment system, it’s a great vehicle to drive around rather than the cheapest base model Honda, Toyota, etc vehicle at about the same price.
Furthermore, if you ignore the electric.. the fact it gets plenty of range with it’s combustion engine as well, you can pretty much pretend it's not a hybrid and just drive it around in sport mode all the time and treat like any other ice car.
May be worth to just install an aftermarket on/off switches for the A/C and Heater by wiring them directly to the relays that control those, and an aftermarket bluetooth radio, and you'll be all set and can write off the horrible built in infotainment.
Karma's engine does not get great range at all. Karma is a 5100 lb vehicle with a 9 gallon fuel tank. That engine is also rated for 21 mpg combined in the Cobalt SS and Solstice GXP, which are less than 3000 lbs in weight.
@@PURENT if you check the fisker buzz forums, there are posts from owners who drive their Karma's purely in "sport mode" which operates the car purely in an ice mode, and the 50 mile range battery they keep as a backup for if fuel gets low.
But those users report decent gas ranges of about 200 miles.. which imo isn't bad for an ice car of this type/styling, which often have mediocre gas milage too.
@@LycanWitch You gotta really drive it like a grandma to squeeze out decent MPG out of that engine. It's a 2 liter, but it's definitely not great on gas unless you stay off the turbo. Problem is the turbo kicks in at as little as 2500 rpm.
This is funny, I was on Facebook marketplace the other night browsing cars and there was a guy in FRESNO, I think.. he was selling his fisker karma but he actually had 2 of them and he said it was a buy 1 get 1 free.. lmao..
he was selling them “cheap” too, I believe he wanted less than $30k and he did sell them
I was so close to meet Hoovie. I was walking around Barrett Jackson wondering if Tyler was there. Later that day I was watching the auction and Tyler was working the floor.
Ain't nobody sicker in my Fisker, “vroom-vroom,” ho
Ain't nobody-
(Fiskers don't make noise when they start up, just so you know)
Beat me to it
Sick of these BetterHelp ads. I sincerely doubt you used it once and if you did it was probably only once. You're just peddling whatever product someone will pay you money to push onto your subs. Most of your subs realize it's garbage and will never use it, but you are hurting the ones who do use it. You are taking advantage of the trust your subscribers have in you.
I have owned Few Fisker Karma's (3 plus tested more than 10) and still kept my first one since 10 years. I can say that it is by far the best car I have ever owned !!! 133'000km without any trouble. I agree yours looks a bit garbage and slow in soft but you can't generalize and say that the car itself is a disaster since it is not and you don't have a long experience of it. If you would have bought your car from a real specialist (like Evolutionautosports in US for exemple), it would have been an other speech. All the owners that bought from him are 100% happy.
If anyone has a question about that car, I would be happy to help and answer.
One small correction: The Karma Revero built by chinese-owned Karma Automotive is still just a PHEV, not a full EV. Afaik, it's also still in production today as the Revero GT and GTS.
Nice to see what a great car turns into without support. *Cries in SAAB*