Testing Several Different 45LC Cast Bullets in the Taurus Judge
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- I recently tested several different cast bullets in my EAA Big Bore Bounty Hunter single action. I am now testing those same bullet in my Taurus Judge. I loaded these with Alliant Unique powder. I am trying to determine if larger bullets will help to increase accuracy in these revolvers.
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LoB - That was a huge information disclosure for all of us on those Judge chambers. You are the first to present this information and clearly presented...This video is really a must for all owners of Judges or Governors interested in shooting lead bullets...We can't have Judges or Governors in CA. Best to ya, FC Steve
Thanks FC! It appears these really are built to shoot the .410 with the .45 being a little bit of an after thought. It would certainly be hard to build it to best meet the needs of both; I can understand why they chambers are the way they are.
The gun laws in California are certainly a very sad state of affairs.
Lots of good info, thanks. Saved me a lot of time experimenting with cast bullets.
Now experimenting with light loads might be fun....
Very informative and well done video! Thank you sir.
Thanks!
Very cool!! Good deal!!
Thanks!
And im sorry i get ahead of mysekf and ask questions before you already explain.... amazes me that you are so detailed
It's all good.
Love your targets
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Now that's loads of lead. Nice , very good info .
Thanks Nick!
Finally a video with actual valid information. I was going to purchase the same judge in video to shoot only the .45 colt ammo, now i'm having second thoughts about it.
The Judge is a lot of fun, and it seems to shoot jacketed 45 Colt fine (but a good bit higher than the sights). If I were going to purchase a revolver just for 45 Colt, I would get something other than the Judge.
The judge is a fun gun , surprisingly the 22lr , 380 ,9mm shoot pretty decently out of it . But you have to get the rifled version , and the 32acp that can be shot out it as well was pretty accurate for being smooth bore .
Awesome video
As a .45 shooter and reloader, I was considering this gun recently . . Not any more.
Thank you for your review.
It does pretty good with jacketed bullets, but it's really designed to be used with .410. Glad the video was useful!
my 6.5in barrel magnum judge shoots dead on at 10yrds getting a 2in group off hand with winchester target 255gr lead round nose and hsm 250gr lead round nose hard case cowboy loads.
I have the Magnum Judge with a 3" barrel. Every .45 Colt load I use in it shoots high. Windage is usually really good though. Hornady .45 Colt FTX LeverEvolution 225 grain bullets over Power Pistol at about 800 FPS work the best for me. Still shoot high, but with reasonable grouping.
Every .45 Colt I've shot in mine has shot higher than point of aim as well. The 410 with buckshot seems to shoot to point of aim.
I wish I kept mine I carried triple 000 buck but if I went in the woods I loaded with 45 long colt semi lead copper hollow points i can't remember who made them that was almost 20 years ago, it was the public defender with bobbed hammer I often thought about getting another one
So...just realizing this now. This whole time I thought your channel name was Loads of Bacon, as in lots of bacon. It just occurred to me that it could also be sort of a double meaning, Loads of Bacon, as in handloads/reloads. Lol
Bacon is the important part :)
i own a judge with a 6.5'' barrel and it shoots my 45 colt lead rounds just fine
Awesome
Mine too
All 3 6.5" judges I've dealt with have, it seems like a barrel length issue.
Very nice video! I’m getting the Judge with a 6 1/2 inch barrel and I do want to develop some custom loads. Looks like you like the 8 or 9 grs of Unique best. Would you recommend some high quality Hornady FX or Berger bullets? And are you affiliated with The Reloaders Network? My last order from them came with a credit card receipt from Loads of Bacon.
Yes, I own and operate The Reloaders Network, and my business is "Loads of Bacon, LLC". Sorry for the confusion.
I've heard reports of the 6 1/2 model performing well with cast bullets.
I have no experience with loading any jacketed bullets, only cast bullets, so I don't have any specific recommendations.
Just curious have you tried the 3" PDX-1 rounds through your Judge? I tried them through a .410 with amazing results but I was curious how they would perform through a shorter barrel?
I have not. I've used some bird shot, and the Federal 3" 000 buck. I've seen the PDX stuff marketed, and I'm still not convinced of what I think of the BBs in the mix.
7:30 sounds like your shooting the dog. Lol nice video
Now that I know it shoots high, I dont feel so bad about not hitting anything my first time firing mine!
This was a very helpful video. I have a 6.5" barrel judge. Shot some 250 gr cowboy loads, all 6" high with a spread of 8", no real accuracy at all. Interesting that the wad cutters seem to do pretty good. Thanks for an excellent video!!
If you don't cast and reload your own I would stick with jacketed bullets in the judge, and plan for them to shoot above point of aim. The sights seem to be calibrated for the .410 loads.
I bought dies for reloading, will have to learn to cast hard lead bullets and work up a semi accurate load for the Judge and Vaqueros.
Bullet casting and reloading are both great hobbies and skills! TH-cam keeps deleting our reloading and casting videos, so if you're looking for that content be sure to come find it at The Reloaders Network - thereloadersnetwork.com
Thanks my loading table top is 100% the same as this table top . I found an old table then glued & screwed some 3/4 " to the top to make it bigger & stronger . Still works great after many years .
I made both my work bench and my reloading bench out of plywood and 2x boards. They didn't break the bank, and they'll probably last longer than I do.
The Scofield's surprised me but I 'almost' saw what I expected with the oversized casts....if there wasn't such a leading issue I would imagine that they will do even better if tested alone and with a 'moderate charge' behind them.
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That was interesting. Very Strange with the one or two tumbles in a series. Makes me wonder if one of the cylinders is larger than the others. I usually just have my 4" 2.5 410 Judge stoked with the shot shell in #4-6's and buckshot. Mostly I use it for varmint control.
All five measure the same, at least at the mouth, (or at least they did before they were filled with lead deposits). Your shot shells for varmint control are a perfect use case for the Judge.
I've experimented for years with .45/.410 derringers. The most accurate lead bullet I've come up with is a 255 grain hollow-point full-wadcutter with a hollow back, pushed by Pyrodex. I form the bullets myself in the crimper end of a $15 .45 colt Lee loader, with a large ball bearing on either end of the bullet. So the bullet is quite long, and the leading 20% of the bullet is the same diameter as the case. This combined with the hollow back makes it go nice and straight down the chamber, with a great seal to the bore. With such a great seal, no cylinder gap, and 2.5cc's of pyrodex, it's a potent round. Expands to about .60 caliber in water, and flattens the primer completely. I'd estimate it's moving around 900 fps.
That sounds like an outstanding load!
I have some penta HP 45 colt bullets (from MP molds) I want gel tested. If I send them to you, could you do a gel test on them? They are powdercoated and swaged to .454-.455” Some are filled with hot glue to help expansion. If they expand out of your single action, they should expand/fragment out of a 16” lever gun?
I have one of those $6 cleaning kits from Wal-Mart that stows in its own cylindrical handle. The common caliber brushes are wrapped with chore boy. It lives in my range bag. You should have one too. It would have saved most of this range trip's data from question to do a quick scrub anytime leading starts. Mine has saved several range trips when a new test load was gumming up a gun. No point wasting test loads on a leaded barrel. Also handy for the occasional squib load and when a friend has a gun that is never cleaned. (I also keep a 3' x .25" brass rod from a hardware store @ $7 in the trunk of my car. Squibs are always a possibility when working up a new load in uncharted territory. A stuck projectile on the first rung of a ladder can waste a whole range day. Ask me how I know.... Plus I have saved a few people who had squibs at public shooting areas. It is not as rare as people think.)
I normally have a bore snake in my bag, and I often have a rod for squib loads (though I fortunately have never needed it). I didn't have either with me, and this was the worst case of leading I've ever had. Prior planning prevent poor perf..... Stupid Ed Murphy and his crazy laws.
Yep. My worst waste was range testing a ladder consisting of almost 200 rounds of 30-06 for accuracy at 100 yards. Careful loading. Careful shooting. It started raining, and I cleaned up. Drove the hour or so home, and realized that I'd left my targets showing what worked or didn't at the range. All that work completely lost. I know that I was doing about 2moa before the ladder, and hoped to find the accuracy nodes at a couple power levels in two projectiles. I had some hornady bullets as a control shot up too, so I could compare my best with quality jacketed to my best with my cast. I still don't know the best those could do. I haven't made the opportunity since.
Ouch! There's definitely a grieving period after something like that.
More of a kicking myself period.
Some nice cleaning holes
That was some bad leading , probably from the .452 tests . I like to shoot some jacketed bullets between test groups of cast bullets so the possible leading doesn't affect the cast bullet results . I'm sure some of those groups are much better than they look due to the leading issue .
I like to do the same with the jacketed bullets, but I only have the Hornadys, and I forgot them at home. I love the shooting sports, but scrubbing lead out isn't my definition of fun.
I'm betting I could get better groups by going straight to the large bullets with a clean barrel, but I think I'll save the cast bullets for the single action.
If you Let the Front sight fiber optic float on the rear sight you POI would indeed be high
If it came with a normal length cylinder, I might be interested.
What does the head stamp read? Is the LC a wildcat load? Can you shoot .45SC in that chambering?
Wait so is it possible to shoot a .457 or will it get caught in the chamber? Scared to try it out my friend makes his own ammo and blew his barrel off his tarus judge I'm not taking any chances he was lucky
judge is one of the best
great vid, thanks so much! I have always like the Judge... but never will get to own one as they will never be approved in Cali :-(
They are a lot of fun, and fun is known to cause cancer in California. Big Brother knows best.
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That judge is nice, im hoping to pick one up by next year
It's always been a fun gun to shoot!
Loads of Bacon ive shot one before and they’re lots of fun, im surprised i havent gotten one yet, idk whats wrong with me lol
So many great options, so little time and money...
Loads of Bacon man tell me about it, another one on my list is the S&W 460 to match my 500 but its pricy :( lol
For the Judge, buy a box of Noblesport 3 inch buckshot. It has four 40 cal balls that group about 8 inches at 10 yards. I don't even bother with bullets in my Judge anymore.
Thanks! I normally have it loaded with the Federal 3" 000 buck, but it's nice to have another good option. I haven't really tested many other loads.
Good Lord could you imagine get hit with a tumbling 45 slug? Ouch!
It would certainly leave a mark
The proper fit is so important, bullets can't go through the barrel canted or leave the crown uneven. The seal at that point of going through the cylinder throat and forcing cone should be true all the way to the release from the mussel for an even mussel blast. 90% of bullets tumble because they are gyroscopically unbalanced as they make their way to the target. anyway, I feel that the Judge pistol is a home defense firearm with the buckshot as the primary loading. Good video bacon as always, You have a detailed way with your presentations and you tell us the it isn't all about target shooting. Dave.
Thanks Dave! The Federal 3" 000 buck and this revolver seem to be a great match. I need to test it in the gel, just because....
To avoid a short barrel shotgun designation, Taurus has to make a rifled barrel, but the rifling is incredibly shallow with a low twist rate. It may not stabilize the 45LC correctly.
I never found the magnum judge to be very accurate with anything but it makes sense it's a very close quarters get off me gun so minute of man at 0-7 yards will work fine just fine.
I can drop a .452" cast bullet clean through each of my cylinders. Despite that, my gun really likes 230gr plated RN bullets over 7.5 grains of Unique. Soft shooting, and about 720fps. Sub 2" groups at 10 yards, double action. This is with a 3 inch barrel.
By the way, Dawson Precision makes sights for the Judge that will cure that shooting high problem.
The .457 bullets continue to perform better than standard diameter bullets in over sized chambers. Your conclusion that the Judge seems to be optimized for the .410 shells makes sense. Save the good stuff for the Single Action!
I don't mind casting "oversized" bullets to make my 45s work, but the bullet that this would require is just going too far.
Oh well, the .410s are fun, and so is the Peacemaker!
Like it!!!!
Thanks brother!
What blend of lead did you cast your bullets out of? If they're too hard, they will cause leading because they don't obturate .
You are correct, bullets that are too hard can lead to leading.
I don't remember the exact alloy used for these, but it was fairly soft. They were probably in the neighborhood of 9 BHN.
Obturation on a solid-based bullet at 14K psi or less will not make up for a gap of a few thousandths of an inch.
Got a question about 45acp pressures in the revolver cylinder. Since the cylinder was chambered for 410 shells, and the cylinder's have a snugger lumen size at the end of the barrel, how does that affect a 45acp round when going through the cylinder to the barrel?
I read that 45 colt pressures are around 14k vs 21k for 45acp rounds.
Where would the failure (if any) be for the revolver?
In the cylinder where the barrel mates with, or at the barrel opening?
I don't own a judge, but am trying to understand the taurus engineering of the cylinder and it's restrictions on 45 acp. I'm assuming it's where the cylinder meets the barrel.
the Governor is not fitted for a 3 inch 410 shell, but allows 45 acp rounds. what's the engineering difference for the cylinder?
45 ACP cannot be used in the Judge.
my 6.5in barrel magnum judge shoots dead on at 10yrds getting a 2in group off hand with winchester target 255gr lead round nose and hsm 250gr lead round nose hard case cowboy loads.
I've heard from a couple folks that the 6.5" model does far better with cast bullets
@loadsofbacon what would happen if you put a 454 casull in a regular judge?
There is a "step" or little "ledge" inside the chamber that will not allow it to fit. The 454 case is too long. If you were able to load a case that did fit, such as 45 Colt, to 454 pressures you risk all sorts of damage to the firearm including possibly blowing the chamber to pieces and sending shrapnel flying in many directions.
I agree with you. The judge is for fun. But, 410’s are expensive little suckers.
Yes they are. I've never reloaded shotgun, but I've considered getting some sort of cheap .410 setup just to load for this. Sounds like fun, but I haven't really looked into it yet.
Loads of Bacon IV8888 did a video a few weeks ago on a shotgun setup that uses a drill and no press. Might be worth looking into. It is from ballistic products.
What’s your bore diameter? Maybe the forcing cone could be tapered to be more gradual maybe accept larger slugs like .458? Maybe you have a lot of jump on the lans of the rifle if causing the bullet to skip the rifling essentially shearing lead down the bore.
Not sure the diameter, I haven't measured, I have the public defender, but I'm still learning the ins and outside of it all, time and practice is what I need I think. I hope!
My thinking is that the bullet it picking up so much speed through the long smooth cylinder chambers that the riffling isn’t biting deep enough to spin the projectiles adequately and instead just sheets lead off
I wish everyone could use my custom "musket ball" .45 colt loads. They're 250 grain soft lead, hollow point, hollow back, full wadcutter, with a wax nose. I call them "musket balls" because they're soft lead, they immediately expand to .58 caliber, and they use pyrodex (the lower pressure prevents the hollow backs from shredding). Because of the hollow ends, the bullet is very long, which helps keep it straighter in the .410 chamber before hitting the rifling, which keeps it accurate, despite being a pure lead round.
That sounds extremely interesting. How do you achieve both a hollow point and a hollow base? Are you drilling one or the other out?
@@LoadsofBacon , I put a standard Hornady cowboy bullet in a .454 die, with a ball bearing in each end, and press it into shape.
I would practice without the rest unless you have wrist issues. Those are for shooting far away. Someone breaks in you may not be able to hold it up.
The rest was only an attempt at trying to reduce the "human factor" in testing these loads. I spend a lot of time shooting 44 Magnum out of short-barrelled revolvers ... I'm not worried about my wrists.
can those judges fit 45-70? what a ride that would be...
The BFR can be had in 45-70. Taurus makes a Raging Judge that also shoots .454 Casull.
Just a thought, but since the cylinder has such over sized Chambers, what about extending the overall length of the cartridge? By doing so the bullet wouldn’t be bouncing around as much in the cylinder before it hit the forcing cone. Your pressures would change thus your velocity would be lower, but might be something to try. It would be similar to setting the bullet closer to the lands in a rifle. Like I said, just a thought. Once again great video like always!
Thanks Mike! I like the thought, but I'm not quite sure how to do it on this revolver. I can't use a longer case, and extending the bullet out to the end of the cylinder would require a bullet that is excessively long.
Loads of Bacon hmmm. Sounds like something built just to give someone a headache trying to figure out.
Actually I think they were built to primarily shoot .410s, but they rifled the barrels so that they are not considered "short barreled shotguns".
Question for you. When you crimp your oversized 45’s did you use a lee factory crimp die? If so did it change the diameter of the bullets? Thinking about getting one for my 44’s but concerned about loosing bullet diameter. My Ruger takes.432 cast.
I did use the Lee FCD. I never pulled any bullets after crimped, but I don’t suspect it messed with the bullets. It certainly didn’t mess with the front driving band that is just above the crimping groove. If I were you, I’d go for it, and then start troubleshooting if you run into any issues.
Will this 45 lc Hornady be okay for a 460 xvr magnum PC 3.5 in barrel ??
Yes. Every cartridge that meets 45 LC specifications will work in a 460.
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He should! He's one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet, and he's got a ton of knowledge and experience.
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Nonsense
I don't really care much for the judge type guns. I have the circuit judge carbine and I don't find it's very accurate with either 45LC or 410. I'd much rather have an over/under combo gun or a gun dedicated to each caliber.
I certainly understand that. I’ve found the Judge to be a lot of fun, but only really useful for a couple of very specific tasks.
Loads of Bacon It was developed for close up work, which it's certainly good for. The circuit judge I don't think would be good for hunting of any kind.
I'm not sure you're doing yourself any favors by making the bullets so oversized. They're going to be swaged down to .453 by the cylinder throat no matter if they start at .453 or .457. However, by starting so large you may be overly deforming the bullets and they may be in worse shape when they enter the forcing cone. This really causes leading as you found out. I had the same problems with an S&W Model 25-5 in 45LC with oversized chamber throats. It had .458 chamber throats and if I sized to .458 it left a streak of lead down the barrel. I never got it to shoot great. The best I could do is was cut the forcing cone to 11 degrees and polish it really well, then cast the bullets to .454. That helped a lot. It went from horrible to OK and didn't lead.
Thanks!
what happens when you shoot a 460 round with your firearm?
What about 45 black power mag
They should try making a 12 gauge in that model. Like a 4 shot cylinder. Just to see how it works
The ATF called, they want to go shooting with you.
Just wondering how hard was the lead that made your castings? Second their barrels are on the rough side slightly. They will pick up copper pretty good.
The 200 grain SWCs that were traditionally lubed were pretty soft. The MP bullets and the Lee TL SWC were probably 15-20 BHN. I did test the SWC and FWC that I cast from the Arsenal molds, and they were 15 BHN.
Loads of Bacon also wondering what the barrel slugged out at on the judge. I thought I read that they are back bored.
I just picked one of these up anyone ever shot some grizzly loads thru there I lost the box but I'm pretty thebox said they are 325 grain bullets
Do you size the cast bullets After You PC to .452?
If you are asking about sizing before or after the powder coat is applied, it was after. I almost always size my powder coated bullets after coating.
Thanks, I Was asking about sizing After applying PC.
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Ive got 250g at 840fps cast lead...whats a nice SAFE heavy fast load to shoot out the poly judge???
Are you looking for factory or reloading yourself?
@@LoadsofBacon i dont reload i would like to find a hot factory round i got a guy who reloads but he wont load me any hotter than those I've got...while keeping it safe in the short judge
Any factory round that is .45 Colt should be safe in your Judge. You say both heavy and fast. I'm not sure what your criteria are for heavy or fast, but in general terms, as the bullet weight goes down, the velocity goes up. I doubt you'll find anything that has a terminal performance difference noticably better than that 250g/840fps load.
The Judge design will often result in leading if you use cast bullets. I would suggest sticking to something with a jacket.
I'd also suggest looking at Federal's #000 Buck handgun .410 load.
@@LoadsofBacon ive got lehigh defence max exp and 000 handgun
. I would like to look into buffalo bore 45colt.. The 250 i got is cast leadbut will one box really hurt my barrel???
Cast lead won’t hurt your barrel at all, but you may end up with a little bit of what is referred to as “leading”, which is a small amount of lead that stays in your barrel. All it would require is a little more strenuous cleaning than normal.
Are some of those impacting sideways?
Yes they are. That would still hurt, but it's certainly not ideal.
Tumbling at 10 yards? Does it have rifling?
I does have some rifling, but it doesn't do much good once it's filled with lead deposits.
Yeah. I bet it doesn't have great rifling as that might/would screw up shot shells. If they had a 45Colt snubbie, that would be better. They used to, but discontinued it. Charter Arms is coming out with a 45 Colt bulldog though. If you've ever seen one, a Jovino Effector is the cat's ass. They go for a fortune though.
I saw a glimpse of the new Bulldog; definitely interesting. I had never heard of the Jovino Effector, but I looked it up. Those look awesome!
How do you like yours ?
It's well made, has a great trigger, and it's a ton of fun to shoot.
In your experience... how much can you size down a bullet?
I've sized down some 44 powder coated bullets by 8/1000s, and it worked just fine. (In theory, I guess you could get progressively smaller sizing dies and go as far as you want...)
A big factor would be the type of bullet. Some will loose the driving bands and could lead to overpressure issues if sized to much. Just food for thought always good to start on the lower side of a charge load for testing. Lead composition will make a pretty big difference on how difficult it will be to run them through the die.
Any velocity numbers?
I've got all the velocity #s. Any in particular you're interested in?
Just wondering how the SWC and FWC did in the judge.
Everything I shot before the larger bullets was slower than it had been in the single action, but the SWC and FWC were about the same or even faster. I don't know how much the leading played into that.
For 8.0 gr Unique, the FWC = 875 fps, the SWC = 890. 8.5 gr, FWC = 933, SWC = 940. 9.0 gr, FWC = 976, SWC = 991.
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The pups are fine. The owner of the range also has a dog kennel near by, and it seems even louder on camera.
The bullets are powder coated. Must be real serious gas cutting to get to that!! I do not see myself buying a judge soon.
Refering to the leading.
Hola Janito! Not all of the bullets were powder coated. The factory Colt and Schofield loads were nor coated, and neither were the SWCs that were sent to me by Thor's Axe777. I have no idea which bullets did or did not contribute to the leading. The Judge is fun, but it doesn't seem to be the best option for cast bullets.
Thanks Bacon! That helps a lot. Good info . Keep up the good work. Saludos
I knew you had a new video up I watched it before and didn't have a chance to comment, Got back to it today and it didn't show up in your feed....#@&? clicked videos air it tis.... Even had the fine babes of spectrachrome commercial playing. I guess if ya can find your videos it might be monetized !!! Yikes you done pissed somebody off! I like ya... : )
Upsetting certain people is a good measure of success. I bet they love my targets :)
The target is getting holes before even the gun fires
It's magic
Generally leading is related to too much speed near 1000 fps.. Back up to 6 grains of powder for 850 fps.. Your groups go to hell with leading and may contribute to keyholing as well in either gun..
That is true for soft, swagged bullets. I regularly shoot my own cast bullets at 1,400+ fps in 357 and 44 Magnum without any leading at all because those bullets are properly sized for the cylinders and bores.
Ya make the 45 LC look like there aint much recoil 🤣
It's a lot less than my .44 Magnum :D
I love them both.
@@LoadsofBacon always wanted to shoot a 44 mag but the hardest thing i ever shot was a 410 shotgun shell out of a 410/45-70 derringer
The Judge is a light revolver, it has some light but painless recoil. My Henry Big Boy .45 colt rifle has hardly any recoil, but you should see the result of that 250 gr bullet striking a heavy steel target, almost flips it over.The Ruger Vaqueros 5 inch barrel .45 colt has very light recoil and is very accurate.
So jealous of that Judge... Our stupid barrel length laws mean the Judge here is absurdly long since they don't include the cylinder length.
Most firearms laws are stupid laws. You certainly have more restrictive stupid firearms laws than we do.
Agreed. I don't have a problem with common sense laws that promote safety but barrel length and a dozen of our other idiot rules are just arbitrary nonsense authored to placate the people who've never owned, used or even seen a firearm in real life.
By how fast and numerous you’re firing, the barrel is most likely warping. Slow down maybe🤷♂️
I appreciate the thought, but there was actually plenty of time between shots. I edited out most of the time between shots in order to shorten the overall length of the video.
@@LoadsofBacon oh nice 👍 duh I should of known that😂
Great video!
The Judge.
Clearly my favourite hand gun. A wonderful portable piece of hand artillery. Beautiful feel, heft and that dull boom of the 410 cartridge is addictive. Shot with it many many time on the range in the US.
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That's because taurus is junk lol, I made a similar mistake with a model 66
This is twice you've commented on the same video in 2 weeks, and both times you dismiss the entire Taurus brand as junk.
This revolver is not junk, but it's not designed to work well with .45 Colt cast or swagged bullets. I works fine with kacketwd bullets, and it works very well with .410 ammo.
I've had a model 66 for almost 20 years and it has been a great revolver. I have a Rossi rifle that was made by Taurus. It has been great.
Previously you complained about Taurus copying other companies products, but you also say "give me a Smith or a Ruger". Much of Ruger's business model has been taking other people's designs.
I own a Ruger. I like it. I own several Smiths. I like them even more. (They were not all perfect out of the box.). I also like my Taurus revolvers.
Go Taurus bash somewhere else please, you've already made your point here.
Governor is a lot better
I have never shot a Governor. What makes it better other then the .45ACP with moonclips option? Thanks.
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This test is not logical to much room for human error your mount should be anchored for Scientific accuracy 👎🤓
I'm incapable of scientific accuracy. This is backyard science, not laboratory science.