Round Nose 45 ACP Bullets In The 45 Colt
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- Amazingly, there doesn't seem to be much on this subject in other videos. So let's go ahead and load some common round nose 45 ACP bullets in the 45 Colt for revolver shooting. With the popularity of recreational and steel shooting with the 45 Colt, round nose bullets deserve consideration....
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.45 Colt originally used LRN bullets. I've had great luck using .45 ACP LRN as well as 230gr FMJ (with taper crimp) in .45 Colt and Schofield. Great video!
in 1873 what didn't use lead bullets ??? and 99% were RN then as well...🤣
Miss these videos
I think those powder coated bullets are a game changer
I just did a big batch of RCBS 230 grain round nose 2 cavity mold. I powder coated the with red white and blue.
Love the Lyman 8 and the Ram Prime, thanks for more loading tips :-))
I subscribed to your channel quite a while back but I haven't had much of a chance to actually take the time and listen to some of the videos. However I would say I can totally relate to what you're talking about when you're saying this causes so much joy and I think it's awesome that reloading brings you Joy and you're so positive about it instead of a lot of people that I've talked to in my local area are tedious about it. Anyways hope you have an awesome day and a lot of fun with those 45 Colt rounds.
Thanks Cookie Great Video!
Bravo! Loved this video today!
This is like watching me load the in the same style with my old vintage gear. An old Lyman Spar-T press. Old Lyman AA dies, and an Ideal No.5 powder measure. All I've been using since around 1962. You're just alot more modern.😀
And I'm equally impressed that you're using 45ACP bullets in the 45 Colt. Here, with my antique loading gear, I'll load the Ideal 452374 RN, and Ideal 452460 SWC. Two months ago I got a Lee mould for the TL 230gr truncated bullet to try. Never used tumble lube stuff before. But they work great in the 45 Colt, crimped in the top lube groove as you did. Again, it was like watching myself, but with modern equipment. It truly is a small world.
Yes sir, I always enjoy watching you work! Take care, and never stop showing folks your methods to provide themselves with quality loading with numerous alternative choices.
LEE 230TL cone bullet is an awesome plinker
@@robaldridge6505 Yes sir, I'm finding that out recently with my 45 Colt SAA's I have. I'm not too sure about it through my Henry Big Boy's 20" barrel though. They're lubed with Lee Liquid Alox only. I'm afraid that TL bullet will run out of lube far too quickly as compared to a 4 3/4" or 5 1/2" revolver.
Three days ago, I bought a Great Western II Alchemista IV, in 45 Colt (like I don't have enough 45 Colt Single Action Army's already). That low wide hammer, recessed wide trigger, and 4 3/4" octagon barrel and checkered Colt 1860 Army grips makes for a great combination.
After I cleaned the surface rust from the bore and chambers (yeah, the previous owner shot BP and didn't clean it right) I went out to my range and shot some TL452-230-TC's over a moderate load of Trail Boss. It was starting to cloverleaf, centered at 15m then I started wobbling. I'm in my 70's now so I don't have as steady a hand as when younger.
But that bullet is designed pretty well, and the accuracy is there. My first experience with TL bullets.
@@anangryranger don't worry,ALOX is good stuff, I use it on 47-70s, 357 mag in a 24" Bbl. .30-30 Win and 30-30 AckIey.. even 7.62x39, it gets smokey at high speed but recovered bullets still have lube on them....
@@robaldridge6505 Thank you for the advice! I'm an old school caster that started in 1960 with my great uncle's teaching using mutton tallow and beeswax, loading BP in the 45 Colt. Today, cartridges are loaded with smokeless of course, and I use 50/50 Alox and beeswax. Never used the liquid Alox until now. I suppose double coated would be appropriate for my rifle?
I'm still using my all American press I bought in 1971 for 45s.it was top of the line back then.
Another fine video FC . Just acquired a Henry Big Boy in .45 LC. I ladder loaded some unique loads and tested them yesterday. I’m using Lee 255 grain RF cast bullets.I found that 9.0 grains patterned the best at 50 yards. And old model Vaquero will be joining the lineup soon. Oh, I’m going to try loading 230 grain FMJ acp bullets next.
Have you tried those 230gn yet? I have a Henry BB in 45 colt and have some Hornady 230gn xtp .451”. Trying to figure out how to taper crimp these things.
As always another GREAT video... I've fiddled around with ALL of Lees bullets in 45 Colt, I still use the 300 grainer in a +P load as my 'bear load' ( but I can't shoot more than 6 at once now) 230TL cone bullet is my FAV plinker in the Colt, the 160RF shoots the same as my .451RB load but its longer and has a bullet out front for easier loading thru the gate...
Solidity is important in our powder measures. I tested the consistency in charge weight from an RCBS Lil Dandy measure. Handheld charging a loading block of cases versus solid mounting to a bench and charging one at a time. Solid mounting was easily more consistent. I mounted a Uniflow, Redding 10X and my Lil Dandy on a pine round (think Lazy Susan), covered the bottom with felt and I place a 25 lb bag of shot in the middle. It gives very good consistency with all 3 measures and I can slide it around and rotate it on my desk wherever I want. Thanks for the vid, Cookie!
Use little dandy exclusively on all my p istol loads. Will have to try using a p m holder to see if it is more consistent. Take care.
Love the 45 colt videos. I just got a Ruger Blackhawk Bisley in 45 Colt. I can’t wait to reload different rounds for it.
Great video. I have learned so much from you, really appreciate all you do👍👍👍👍👍
I have been loading the Lyman 452374 in my .45 Colt rounds for nearly 30 years. I wouldn't use them in a tubular magazine, but in my Peacemaker clone they're great!
Good video 👍👍
I started out with an RCBS sincle stage press. If I had it to do over again, I would have gone with a turret press.
What I have seen done as far as a good firm mount that’s still able to be moved is. Mount your powder thrower to a lead block or melt some lead in your cast iron pan. And mount it to that believe me it is sturdy my pan cast a 10 pound disk about a inch and a half thick.
Just watching this was joyful. Thanks!
Thanks just got my safe queen 45LC MNT Gun after cleaned & oiled Great stock trigger . My gun smith said looks to only be test fired .. no ring on the cylinder . Nearly as new , sold as very good condition used , no box pre safety SS model . Inside it was dry with some dried up oil .
I do have some 45 acp bullets to load up as well as 45LC
Love that Lee 8 station. As long as the 45acp bullets are the correct diameter for you barrel, then go for it.
Looks like you were using the same 'Amazon special' caliper I have. I find myself, about half the time, pulling the battery door open with my thumb. Drives me nuts. May have to take a bit of glue to it. Some lessons are hard learned, lol. Love that Press BTW and another great informative video, thanks.
When I first got my 45 colt dies and brass I used some of my 230gr lrn. worked great though I didn't use them long or now because of the no crimp groove + my rifle's tube magazine.
Matt Rockman..
There is no problem using round nose bullets in a tube style magazine.
I’m a big fan of the fat tip bullets, but even more so, the fathead bullets.
Ram Prime is still my favorite priming device.
I bought a RCBS partner 2 in 1974 and it came with a ram priming something similar to the Lee.
.45 ACP bullets should be .451" diameter. .45 Long Colt should be .454" diameter. A linotype (or Lyman #2 Alloy cast bullet) will be too hard to upset and properly fill the grooves of a .45 LC, and accuracy will suffer and lead to excessive fouling of the barrel and cylinders. Both Lee (NLA) and Lyman made cast bullet molds for .458" (as cast, before lubing and sizing) in round nose 230-255 grain styles. I used the ancient Lee mold for my Ruger "Old Army" black powder revolver in pure lead.
The 230 grn round nose is my favorite for my Uberti Schofield revolver.
Nice lookin rounds
I've never seen hornady cases be shorter I believe you but my hornady 45 Colt brass is the same length as all other winchester jag etc
Hi fortune cookie! Good video. I really like the lee ram prime!
Great video just last night I loaded some 45 colt with some 230 RNFMJ that don’t have a crimp groove and used the Lee collet crimp die they say it doesn’t need a crimp groove. As for those super short Hornady brass you could always cut it down to the Starline 45 colt cowboy brass I understand it’s shorter sort of like a 45 special brass. Also the Hornady 45-70 brass is also super short so I avoid it when buying used brass but still got a lot of it so I’m going to use Quickload to try some loads or just throw it in the brass recycle can.
Surfinblues - Absolutely keep that 45/70 brass - even brass casings that have little neck cracks can still be used by saving up and batch trimming to shorter rounds. One of my favorite range and recreation rounds for the 45/70 is my own 45/55 Dabo (case shortened to 1.800" ) that is a mighty handy, efficient and pleasant shooting little beastie. Good reloadin' to ya, Steve
@@stevenfong4162 thanks for the info, I was wondering can you shoot those 45-55’s from a 45-70? Like shooting 38 specials in a 357? I do have quickload program so I think I can work up some loads.
Funny enough, I'm opposite with my .45 Auto. I find my 1911 likes handloads with RNFP bullets for .45 Colt. I load the 200gr bullet with 5 grains of HP38 and seat at the cannelure, or 1.200".
I love and prefer my Lee turret press with its auto indexing feature.
I have a powder measure like yours but I put all my cases in my reloading tray and hand hold the powder measure as I go down each row setting the measure on top of each case to dump the powder. I then visually inspect the whole tray.
Why don’t you mount your powder charge on your eight turret press I have mine on there and it works great!
Very Nice Job Fortune Cookie. Do you run all your powder coated cast bullets thru a sizer ? This video is such a good thing to do for new reloaders. That is an awesome Powder drop stand that Doug made you , and being bolted down its like a rock. Very nice! Thanks for all your great videos FC45lc
been loading my lyman 452374 round nose 230 grain bullit in my 45 colt forever. need that 2r lee mold. both of your loads look nice. i also load 126 gr 9mm bullets in my 38 sp. light plinking load. take care.
I don't know about others, but the HK45 won't feed SWC shaped bullets.
I cast the flat nose in pure lead. Why? Well, I bought a Taylor and Company 45ACP cylinder for a 1847 Colt Walker. You see, some while back I was at a thrift store and they had a bag of over 500 used 45ACP brass for $10. I bought it cleaned them and given the cost of components decided that 45ACP with this cheap brass was the best option hence the cylinder. Anyway, I loaded about 100 with BLACK POWDER compressed with the flat nosed like yours. It works well. Also I have shot 45ACP in my 1917 S&W with full moon clips.
Thanks for making another great video F C . Question is there any difference between the two RN as far as over all length as to consistent shots or pressures ?
JP - A range shooting of these loads video has been done - These loads have shown fine accuracy and consistency loaded with any of the published loading data. No real need to magnumize these bullets. If I needed +P+ power, I'd just reach for the red or green boxes of jacketed bullets. Good reloain' to ya, Steve
I loaded those 200 grain SWC in my 45 ACP and must have done something wrong because I had failure to feed in the Glock 21 and the commander sized sig. they seemed to be hooking on the shoulder of the bullet or the edge of the case as they entered the feed ramp.
Sense, I use my cast 230 grain tc bullets in 45 lc and 450 bsm, besides my 45 acp rounds
I roll crimp all of my rounds so my question is, is a taper crimp strong enough to hold bullet in a tube fed rifle?
I noticed you have the powder adjuster to the rear on your RCBS powder measure, I have always had mine at the front for ease of adjustment. Is this just a preference or am I missing something.
I used to load 155 gn swc in my 45 acp rounds. I can't find the mold for them.
Nice video. I’ve been using Hodgdon titegroup for lighter/standard .45 acp/long colt and 38. Do you have any opinions on that powder or and other powder recommendations for those calibers? Thanks
Do you own a Redding Turret press? If so, have you tested it for concentric loading? Just curious. I like the idea of a turret press.
The purpose here is to ask for your opinion which will help me choose a single action revolver chambered in .45 Colt.
My “short list” of options are, in alphabetical order: Cimarron (Pietta) 1873 clone, Colt SAA, Ruger Blackhawk convertible, Ruger flat top convertible from Lipsey’s.
Yes, having a Colt has a high coefficient of coolness but I could purchase 2 of the others for the same amount.
I am looking forward to your reply. Thanks in advance for your help.
Wonder If Those Bullets Would Be Loadable In 45/70 Cases And Be Shootable In My Lever action Marlin FC Steve 😀😊
45-70 and other 45 rifles generally use .458 diameter cast bullets. 45 handguns like 45 Colt and 45 auto generally require .451 diameter. For cast bullets in 45-70 I’ve found 400 or 405g flat nose shoot best for me. Lee makes a mold for plain base, and I gave a mold (RCBS IIRC) for a gas check version.
FC I loaded some lead 45 Colt cartridges without any lube, can I dip the nose in some melted lube to give it some lube?
My lyman manual # 3 says factory loads for 230gr in 45colt is 9gr of unique.
Have you ever used a dillon square deal ?
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I've not been sizing my 45 ACP for my 1911. I just apply a semi heavy crimp and seat it at 1.2 and I've gotten pretty good function. It's a lee 200gr semi wadcutter design to great affect. 3.9gr of tightwad has been great plinking load for me. Total success. Still struggling to get my 9mm to work with cast bullets l. Any suggestions. I've tried sizing them not sizing them tumble lube/powder coating and more.
I've had great luck with red dot for 9mm cast lead
@@echota23 ok i got a half pound maybe I'll try some are you doing anything or just castww with PC?
I won't ask for your load of you don't want to share but any idea on velocity?
@@Jeff-hn7gi noe 130gr hollowpoint slick side powder coat 3.5gr of red dot out of a glock 19. 995fps I can consecutively hit a 16" plate @ 100yrds with this combo
Try to find the lyman 3rd edition cast lead load manual.
The problem I see with having to touch each primer is some people have very acidic skin on their hands and will cause the primer to corrode, and it's a P.I.T.Ass to handle this small primers.