Dr. Bush wasn't just "some guy." He was a professor at BYU, teaching organ, of course. He was in the Stake presidency of the Central Stake, and spearheaded the effort to have this organ built. Sadly, he died of cancer in 2013, and is greatly missed by all of us who knew him.
Don't let anyone in the LDS Church take credit for this organ. They pushed Dr Bush out of the stake boundaries after the organ was completed so he wouldn't have access to it. It was a selfish and petty row on the part of the church. No surprise.
The tremulant is a variable speed trem. If you hold a note and pull the stop out slowly the trem will start out very slow and then speed up as you continue to pull it out.
@@Charles-Reardon That trem makes enough racket - I don't think I'd use it very often, variable or not! (by the way Landon usually knows what he's talking about😁)
I have played that organ in Provo and it is wonderful. I also played a Bigelow organ in Ann arbor, Michigan, when my son was a student there. They are unique in that you can use the stops on either manual. There is a wonderful Bach style tracker organ in the Eugene Oregon West stake center built about 30 years ago by a guy who lived in the stake. He was apparently a good enough organ builder that the Tabernacle organists considered him for making the tracker organ for the Assembly Hall, but he didn't get the bid, although they bought one of his organs for one of their practice rooms under the Tabernacle. It was also a very fun organ to play. I serves my missions in Italy and Switzerland and was able to play many tracker organs. I also helped Peter Grabowski sample Azzio and Giubiasco in Northern Italy and Switzerland 2017. They are wonderful sample sets and can be downloaded for free, although I always make a donation because I know how much time and energy Peter put into those sample sets.
Enjoyed the demonstration and impressed with this instrument: it packs a punch! Good to see you are having plenty of fun, and appreciate you sharing these wonderful finds. A Bach-style organ in a LDS chapel is a surprise, but as William Cowper wrote in his 1773 hymn: "God moves in a mysterious way, His wonders to perform".
Mechanical action organs are something you would be extra lucky to find inside LDS chapel, but Bigelow has built more than one. They have also built two organs that are very similar to each other with wooden façades inside the Smithfield and Hyrum Utah stake centers.
I am pondering how I might install one of these instruments in my home. If I put the console in the basement, cut away the living room and master bedroom floors and ceilings and go up into the attic, wonder if it might fit... That is a cool piece of gear, to be sure. What is with the pinwheel?
@@Charles-Reardon Thank you for that information. I am not an organ player, just a music lover of all sorts. I guess I haven't frequented the right churches and halls in my 60 years and never encountered that before. Sure seems like a cheap accoustic and visual gimmick to me that would be visually distracting to an audience or congregation, LOL. (I am so deaf now I could barely hear it when I found another youtube just on that item just now.) "Zimbelsternism" also sounds like a strange religion.
A small note, the full cornet is not available on Manual I without using the coupler, just the 2 2/3’ rank. This is shown by how the stop is engraved. It would have been nice to show the pedalboard and demonstrate how it’s different from the AGO standard as well as how the keys move on their own with the mechanical couplers. This little instrument certainly is a delight to play!
I realized after I left that I didn't have the 16' reed in the manuals in tutti, and now I know I didn't have the full cornet either lol. Next time I will try real full organ!
Such a dead room acoustically. I have to wonder why the Parishioners didn’t do something to that room to enhance this unique instrument with acoustics. I admit I don’t know much about the LDS faith, but all their churches look identical by era.
This is terrible. Carpeted Chapel...? Unholstered seats.....? No Acoustic......? Why would thinking Americans do this.......? Put this little organ in a 5 second acoustic and then......listen to the beauty! To try to make music out of this (lack of) this mess is beneath any organ builders talents ! I feel sorry for the organist. Re-surface this building and then re-voice the poor organ ....then, and only then.......try to make music again....please. Chris Australia
I think it's a Mormon thing. They don't seem to like reverberation. The Conference Center with the big Schoenstein is a dead room. Carpeted, etc. Sad to spend all that money just to put the organ in a dead acoustic. This room is horrible. This little organ would sound great in a live room, but sounds ho hum in this one. They make stupid decisions.
These chapels are designed to be mass-produced on the cheap to (attempt to) keep up with a growing population of the membership. Additionally, families usually sit with their small children during the worship services so these buildings are specifically designed to augment the hearing of the spoken word while reducing other noises in the space. The worst thing of all is that the vast majority of chapels in the denomination have digital substitutes instead of actual pipe organs in North America and I’m assuming Europe, and the buildings in the rest of the world usually only have digital pianos. This chapel is actually one of the lucky ones. HOWEVER: Just because the musicians aren’t the ones making the architectural and purchasing decisions (which do have important and practical reasoning behind them) DOES NOT mean that meaningful music can’t be made in those spaces. Part of being a musician, and a church musician especially, means making the best music you can with what you’re given. A space or an instrument not meeting your pretentious standards is not an excuse to throw up your hands and decry that such is impossible and blasphemous. You can make beautiful music anywhere and with anything. Give the Lord your best, and that will be enough.
This is absolutely inappropriate for church.(LDS) I'm petitioning salt lake for one of these from my ward. I studied under Doug❤🥹... inappropriate style of organ for LDS
Dr. Bush wasn't just "some guy." He was a professor at BYU, teaching organ, of course. He was in the Stake presidency of the Central Stake, and spearheaded the effort to have this organ built. Sadly, he died of cancer in 2013, and is greatly missed by all of us who knew him.
Don't let anyone in the LDS Church take credit for this organ. They pushed Dr Bush out of the stake boundaries after the organ was completed so he wouldn't have access to it. It was a selfish and petty row on the part of the church. No surprise.
@@ryanroberts8783 That is mostly false. He had regular access to it. I took lessons from Doug on that organ in that building.
He was my teacher 😢... but this organ is in violation of everything later day saint...
Another great video. Thank you for taking the time to fully demonstrate this instrument. Al way interesting - always fun!
The tremulant is a variable speed trem. If you hold a note and pull the stop out slowly the trem will start out very slow and then speed up as you continue to pull it out.
Are you sure? It didn’t seem like it
@@Charles-Reardon That trem makes enough racket - I don't think I'd use it very often, variable or not! (by the way Landon usually knows what he's talking about😁)
Can you add a stop list in the description? Thanks!
I have played that organ in Provo and it is wonderful. I also played a Bigelow organ in Ann arbor, Michigan, when my son was a student there. They are unique in that you can use the stops on either manual. There is a wonderful Bach style tracker organ in the Eugene Oregon West stake center built about 30 years ago by a guy who lived in the stake. He was apparently a good enough organ builder that the Tabernacle organists considered him for making the tracker organ for the Assembly Hall, but he didn't get the bid, although they bought one of his organs for one of their practice rooms under the Tabernacle. It was also a very fun organ to play. I serves my missions in Italy and Switzerland and was able to play many tracker organs. I also helped Peter Grabowski sample Azzio and Giubiasco in Northern Italy and Switzerland 2017. They are wonderful sample sets and can be downloaded for free, although I always make a donation because I know how much time and energy Peter put into those sample sets.
Sounds beautiful!
Enjoyed the demonstration and impressed with this instrument: it packs a punch! Good to see you are having plenty of fun, and appreciate you sharing these wonderful finds. A Bach-style organ in a LDS chapel is a surprise, but as William Cowper wrote in his 1773 hymn: "God moves in a mysterious way, His wonders to perform".
Mechanical action organs are something you would be extra lucky to find inside LDS chapel, but Bigelow has built more than one. They have also built two organs that are very similar to each other with wooden façades inside the Smithfield and Hyrum Utah stake centers.
This is great. I wish I could play one of those organs 🎹🎹☘️
I've actually played this organ before! It's a very unique one, for sure!
I am pondering how I might install one of these instruments in my home. If I put the console in the basement, cut away the living room and master bedroom floors and ceilings and go up into the attic, wonder if it might fit... That is a cool piece of gear, to be sure. What is with the pinwheel?
It is a physical representation of the zymbelstern spinning
@@Charles-Reardon Thank you for that information. I am not an organ player, just a music lover of all sorts. I guess I haven't frequented the right churches and halls in my 60 years and never encountered that before. Sure seems like a cheap accoustic and visual gimmick to me that would be visually distracting to an audience or congregation, LOL. (I am so deaf now I could barely hear it when I found another youtube just on that item just now.) "Zimbelsternism" also sounds like a strange religion.
A small note, the full cornet is not available on Manual I without using the coupler, just the 2 2/3’ rank. This is shown by how the stop is engraved. It would have been nice to show the pedalboard and demonstrate how it’s different from the AGO standard as well as how the keys move on their own with the mechanical couplers. This little instrument certainly is a delight to play!
I realized after I left that I didn't have the 16' reed in the manuals in tutti, and now I know I didn't have the full cornet either lol. Next time I will try real full organ!
@ That little fact has tricked me before with that instrument. The touch is very satisfying though, so I’m willing to forgive it. 😄
You studied at BYU right?
@ Yup! I graduated in June. I wasn’t an organ major but I took two full years of 160R with Doctors Cook and Harmon.
There was a very similar looking organ in West Salem, Oregon where I served my mission
A TRACKER in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints?! I must say…I’m pleasantly STUNNED! 👍🙏❤️🎹
We have a tracker in our LDS building in Riverside, CA
Does Everett have a TH-cam channel?
No
Complex windchests IE dual functions
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Such a dead room acoustically. I have to wonder why the Parishioners didn’t do something to that room to enhance this unique instrument with acoustics.
I admit I don’t know much about the LDS faith, but all their churches look identical by era.
I agree, considering the members of the area saved for the organ
I believe this problem is endemic to LDS chapels and stake centers just about everywhere.
Come visit Riverside, CA. Every building in our stake (6) has a pipe organ, including our stake center organ of 3/57 ranks.
It should be removed.
This is terrible. Carpeted Chapel...? Unholstered seats.....?
No Acoustic......?
Why would thinking Americans do this.......?
Put this little organ in a 5 second acoustic and then......listen to the beauty!
To try to make music out of this (lack of) this mess is beneath any organ builders talents ! I feel sorry for the organist.
Re-surface this building and then re-voice the poor organ ....then, and only then.......try to make music again....please.
Chris Australia
Welcome back, Chris Australia!
Charles United States of America
I think it's a Mormon thing. They don't seem to like reverberation. The Conference Center with the big Schoenstein is a dead room. Carpeted, etc. Sad to spend all that money just to put the organ in a dead acoustic. This room is horrible. This little organ would sound great in a live room, but sounds ho hum in this one. They make stupid decisions.
These chapels are designed to be mass-produced on the cheap to (attempt to) keep up with a growing population of the membership. Additionally, families usually sit with their small children during the worship services so these buildings are specifically designed to augment the hearing of the spoken word while reducing other noises in the space. The worst thing of all is that the vast majority of chapels in the denomination have digital substitutes instead of actual pipe organs in North America and I’m assuming Europe, and the buildings in the rest of the world usually only have digital pianos. This chapel is actually one of the lucky ones.
HOWEVER: Just because the musicians aren’t the ones making the architectural and purchasing decisions (which do have important and practical reasoning behind them) DOES NOT mean that meaningful music can’t be made in those spaces. Part of being a musician, and a church musician especially, means making the best music you can with what you’re given. A space or an instrument not meeting your pretentious standards is not an excuse to throw up your hands and decry that such is impossible and blasphemous. You can make beautiful music anywhere and with anything. Give the Lord your best, and that will be enough.
Stupid decisions? That’s quite the generalization of all of the church architects and the 6,500+ LDS buildings they have designed in America alone
It's all a waste in that dry acoustic.
It's in violation of Latter-day Saints worship service guidelines more importantly
that piano is way out of tune !
This is absolutely inappropriate for church.(LDS) I'm petitioning salt lake for one of these from my ward.
I studied under Doug❤🥹... inappropriate style of organ for LDS
@Charles-Reardon 🥰 stop it.😳... I'm trying to make a point 😉