Thank you, I ordered the mic and my heart dropped when I opened it and saw nothing would work. After watching so many videos this made sense. I just ordered everything else I needed through your links. Thanks for a clear video that helped a very non-techie health coach.
As I'm watching this video, I would like to point out a few things that I've noticed: 1.) the stand connector you mentioned is optional, as there are stands with 5/8s in connectors available 2.) you do not necessarily need a cloudlifter depending on what mixer you have. To my knowledge the Go XLR is the only one strong enough to power the SM7B, as it has 72db of gain, and the Sm7B needs at least 60 db of gain. A lot of people make these mistakes, mainly because they tend to not be as experienced in the field of professional audio as others
In a situation where you are able to do some degree of post production, setting your SM7b to 60dB of gain isn't necessarily the best choice, as it doesn't give you any headroom, meaning that if you decide to talk louder or scream it will clip. While the GoXLR is fine, there are better quality options that cost cheaper. The most important thing when you have a SM7b is to invest in a very good interface with quiet preamps, which makes the 2i2 a pretty poor choice actually.
@@MARUKU Well you also have to think about how many inputs the mixer has. So if you buy a 200 dollar mixer with 4 inputs, you're essentially buying a 50 dollar preamp. Thats why a lot of people tend to prefer the Go XLR for their SM7B.
Is the 2nd point basically suggesting that we can substitute (the following): 1 XLR cable 1 cloudlifter 1 Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 Interface in exchange for: 1 GO XLR?
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I haven't even finished watching your video and I already know that you're gonna show me everything I've been looking for. Great video, and greetings from Brazil!
Absolutely fantastic video. As someone who knows nothing about audio setups but is looking to start a TH-cam channel and have very clean audio I *very* much appreciate this
I will be making technical content on cybersecurity and the core concepts that lead up to cybersecurity. Currently I tutor online and I see a lot of need for videos that explain complex topics in an easy-to-understand way. That's my goal with my videos :)
I went with the Audient Evo4 for my XLR/USB interface and the Fethead instead of the Cloudlifter and got an amazingly nice sound setup for even less than the one you've displayed here. Might want to look into the Evo4 at least as it is pretty awesome. Also, the Fethead can plug directly into the interface OR the SM7B (which is how I have it), allowing for just ONE high-quality XLR cable to be necessary. I also went with the Samson MBA28 Mic Boom - half the price of the Rode and is amazingly strong and stable. This setup is radio-studio quality, and I use it to record my radio program which I then send into the station as COVID rules has had the on-site studio shut down.
So you just go from the shure mic to a XLR to USB adapter and just plug into computer and that's it? Is there any noise? What I mean...is I see a lot of adapters produce noise.
@@derekroberts5931The noise floor on this setup is almost completely silent. It's so good that I record talk radio program episodes that get broadcast on a local radio station here in Madison with it.
Thanks for the video! Though I'm late by 2 years lol. This is such a CLEAR video showing how the SM7b perform. I wonder why TH-cam only shows me this video after searching for things related to SM7b/SM57 for so long
Subscribed. This is exactly what I was looking for. Beautifully done and recorded; wonderful job Lane. Thank you! I look forward in seeing more from you
Thank you so much for making the entire process easy and straightforward. Bought everything exactly with the links and was able to setup my shure in less than an hour. Probably the best tutorial I've ever seen on TH-cam.
Your Video was quite straight forward and did show many things needed. However, it wasn’t without certain quirks, which I feel some additional advice might help other to make the right decisions. If one decides to buy that microphone AND an audio interface, there is not necessarily the need for an additional inline preamplifier, like the Cloud Microphone CL-1 (or „Cloudlifter“, as they dubbed their series of preamps). If you get an audio interface with a strong, low-noise preamp in it. And there are options across the price range. Behringer UMC202HD at the low end, MOTU M2 at the mid tier class are just two examples. Both will - even with the preamps cranked give you a self-noise low enough, to render additional preamplifiers useless. The ambient noise will most likely be above the self noise, especially in noisier, untreated rooms. To put it another way: Your setup is hardly the cheapest. The Focusrite Scarlet 2i2 currently is sold for 149 EUR / 169 USD. The Cloud Microphones „Cloudlifter“ CL-1 is currently sold for 169 EUR / 149 USD. (Yes it’s more expensive in Europe) This combination of Interface and Preamp accumulates to 318 EUR / 318 USD. The MOTU M2 is sold for 195 EUR / 179 USD (yep, again more expensive in Europe) By no means, I would ever call your setup bad hardware. You will get very good results out of it. In fact, I’m not even sure your interface on it’s own would be too weak to begin with. The Focusrite Scarlet 2i2 provides 47 dB of gain. And don’t be scared to run it with the gain cranked. It’s ultra low noise anyways. I’m not sure how much you’d actually need to get to a signal strength of -20dB talking normally. But with a low noise interface like that, you can probably even get away with a signal strength of-24dB, since you need some post processing to get the most out of your mic anyways. There was one thing you said about the Cloudlifter CL-1, while it was correct, should be completed: Yes, the Cloudlifter doesn’t clip the microphone, because it only adds up to 25dB of gain. (I wrote „up to“ because the exact amount of gain you get partly depends on the input impedance of the Interface among other factors.) The rest of the gain comes from the interface. But with the gain on the interface set too high, you obviously still clip the sound out of any microphone if you add an additional preamp. While I don’t know, what microphones you know, I at least can add something to the topic of comparing the RØDE NTG to the Shure SM7B. The RØDE NTG is a small diaphragm condenser microphone, designed to be used at a distance. The Shure SM7B is a dynamic microphone, designed to be used up close. But that doesn’t mean, they cannot be used the other way around. If you position the RØDE NTG up close and set the gain accordingly, you will be shocked, how little room noise and echoes it would pick up. But that comes at the price of requiring a very good micelles technique and probably a shock mount + a pop filter to work the best. Also the sound will be very boomy and muddy If unprocessed. On the other hand, the Shure SM7B used at a distance would do exceedingly worse than the RØDE NTG in terms of ambient noise. Also the Sound would be thins and hollow and it would need a LOT of gain. Why is that? The RØDE NTG has a super cardioid pickup pattern. This pickup pattern is slightly worse at noise rejection directly behind the microphone, but a lot better at rejecting sound from the side, forcing the sound source to be more centered. The Shure SM7B has a cardioid pickup pattern, which again is better at noise rejection from behind the microphone but picks up more from the sides, which usually covers a bigger area of usually sound reflective surfaces in a room. Also, about the topic of „No microphone like The Shure SM7B“: I’m s(h)ure I can find plenty of alternatives. Yes, the SM7B has a certain look to it and since everyone want to be like the big podcasters or streamers, this might be some factor. But in terms of functionality, It’s easy: The Shure SM58, the Shure A55M Shock mount, the Shure A58WS wind shield. These will result in a way less expensive, (141 EUR / 127 USD) smaller, light-weight (410g / 0.9 lbs) package, which still sounds similar to the SM7B, to the point where most listeners will struggle to tell any difference between the two. And if you want the super cardioid pickup pattern, get the Shure Beta 58A, with the same shock mount and wind shield for 191 EUR / 187 USD and a weight of 360g / 0.8 lbs. That being said: Whoever is willing to take this route, cannot use the RØDE PSA-1 Boom Arm, because that one is designed for use with microphones between 700 grams and 1100 grams of weight. But there are plenty of arms and stands available for microphones this lightweight.
Woah, Michael! This is the most comprehensive comment I've ever received on one of my videos! I learned some things reading through your thoughts. I really appreciate your watching my video and offering your perspective. Your knowledge of audio and mics far exceeds mine! Thanks again for offering your thoughts.
_"oh I finally saved up enough for the shure SM7B!!!!! Wait, what do you mean I have to spend another 400 dollars on the accessory's?"_ ~Timothy, probably
What does that even mean? You'll need a cloudlifter and focusrite or something similar, plus a boom arm and an xlr cable. You dont think thats extra for a mic? There arent any videos out there of relevance offering things that dont benefit your mic, just like the accessories offered here. Ive been through every single shure Sm7b on the first 2 pages on TH-cam in the last week so I know from recent memory. But anyway, you got your heart from the creator so I guess thats probably what you really wanted rather than to make any real constructive point about anything based in reality.
@@DrummerJacob I mean to be fair this is the first time I've needed to buy a cloudlifter (and an extra xlr cable) for a mic. I also didn't know I would need this extender accessory to attach it to the mic stand, so I see where he's coming from.
@@DrummerJacob Why is the fact his reality of watching videos and people not going over this stuff, as a likely non XLR user prior to this mic, so offensive to you? Stop trying to make people feel bad because they found help they were after, Jesus
I have tons of video about Shure SM7B, and i never understood how it flows to your computer, thank you for breaking it down, very clear to understand, much appreciated. I am considering investing in it, but how would you hide it from the camera / webcam view (e.g when you are doing conference call, or recording yourself via webcam or camera) to that you still great audio without it blocking the view? Thank again, keep up the good work.
Thanks for sharing! Glad it was helpful. For that you’d turn up the gain using the interface so you could have it 8-10 inches away from your mouth. I see some ppl do that snd it seems to work fine. Thanks again!!
Just buy a small diagraphm condenser microphone like Oktava MK012 and hang it above you like he does with the NTG3, I don´t recommend using shotgun mic at home, they are meant to be used outside, they pickup so much noise on background, everything would be heard. The small diagraphm condenser microphone is beign used by filmmakers to record narration
Thank you, I was able to set it up exactly like this, here is a first video I created with it, and I think the audio sounds good. th-cam.com/video/L0Gq-YmrCrE/w-d-xo.html
So thankful you did this video.. i plan on buying one, to upgrade my home office as i work from home in insurance... I will be using this for work calls (skype/zoom/conference calls).. but also use it for streaming in my personal time. and making videos or podcasting.. So good to know what all i need and how to set it up...
Great video. I'm really wanting a Shure SM7B, but I don't think I'm going to be able to budget everything in. So I may end up having to drop down to something like the At 2040 or the Rode Podmic. But I love how this video was no fluff. It was straight to the point with all the information that I needed IF I somehow get the money for the SM7B
I've been doing a lot of research. I know your video is a few years old, but helped me with my purchase. I did go a different route though. I bought the goXLR instead of the Scarlette and Cloud Lifter just because of the features. All arrive tomorrow. Thanks for the vid!!
Awesome video! I personally don't use the extender as the elgato boomarm offers much better room for the cable. Also the cloudlifter i am not so sure about. I don't think you really need it with decent mic placement. It does work some but i don't feel like it justifies the price. Peace fam. ✌️
I don’t comment at all on TH-cam. But I have to give you your credit bro. Well broken down, simple, detailed, straight to the point, and quick. Thank you 😤🦁
Lane Thank you homie! I got th exact same setup. Do you have a video about how you connect that mic to a windows computer? It would be greatly appreciated! When i connect mine to my windows computer its like i cant hear anything and i cant figure out how to actually get it set up!
Having had the exact same setup, I would just like to share some thoughts. This setup is very expensive for what it does. The cloudlifter is IMHO not worth buying, its 150-200 dollars (depending on region) for 25 dbs of "clean" gain. For the same price you could get the dbx 286s, which offers 45 dbs of clean gain, compression, gate/expander, a de-esser and high and low frequency enhancers. It is rack-size thoug, but I just have it lying on the floor. It's sturdily built. However, If I were to get a new SM7B audio chain today, I would try to get the Motu M2, which acts as an interface and will provide plenty of clean gain to power the sm7b. It can double as a very high quality soundcard/dac-amp and gives you the lowest lantecy possible. It comes in at about the same price or a bit more than just the cloudlifter, but you would be saving the costs of buying the scarlett. Words cannot describe how good the Motu M2 is, but perhaps the fact that it is out of stock all the time can haha. You save money and gain sound quality and lower latency, what is there to complain about.
@@AskAW I like to have really nice stuff it's just how I am. Maybe I'll start making youtube videos or doing some freelance work involving my voice. Or just to talk to people online. I bought the mic, I'll put it to good use.
@@LaneSebringlive I’m watching this for the parts segment I didn’t think the cloud lifter and arm would be as expensive as it is as the interface/mixer I got a goxlr though
hey, first of all: nice tutorial on how you could use the sm7b! You could buy an extra cheap tube preamp instead of the cloudlifter for better sound. for example the A.R.T. tube mp goes for around 30$ or even 20$ used. It provides a nicer, warmer sound and even offers 70db of gain wich is fairly enough for the shure sm7b. for the rest of the money you saved from not buying a cloudlifter, you could get a nice dbx compressor for example. In my opinion this would be a much better sounding setup. Greetings from Germany
Hey Latzi, ich wollte mir das sm7b holen und bin ein kompletter Anfänger. Ich möchte wie du erwähnt hast nicht unbedingt ein cloudlifter holen um einfach das Geld zu sparen. Daher wärst du so lieb mir zu erklären was ich alles für das sm7b bräuchte um es fürs Streamen zu benutzen? LG Onur
@@onurkeles686 Aber klar doch. Um das SM7b zu betreiben brauchst du eigentlich nur ein solides Interface. Beispiele dafür wären zum Beispiel das NI Komplete Audio 1/2. Wichtig ist nur, dass du es so besprichst, wie es auch gedacht ist. Also von Vorne aus nicht mehr als 5cm Entfernung. Dann brauchst du auch nicht so viel Gain (Lautstärke) um auf einen guten Pegel zu kommen. Bevor du dir aber zum streamen ein solch teures und in meinen Augen dumpf klingendes Mikrofon holst, solltest du definitiv mal einen Blick auf die Konkurrenz werfen. Das Rode Procaster, Shure sm57 oder aber ein Se V7 klingen wirklich hammer! Für die gilt auch: gutes Interface und von nahem besprechen. für genauere Infos und Hilfe kannst du gerne auf den Discord discord.gg/u9dZgmT3b2 joinen. Da sind einige Hobby Tontechniker und ich :) Wir helfen gerne.
@@LaneSebringlive true that, we both have our points, and other people won’t always go for this microphone, either way, great video, this taught me a couple of things, thank you, and enjoy your day! ❤️
I will definitely use your link, how do you connect to your camera (was there any wire that connect from interface to the camera? Could you explain please. Thank you!!
I record the audio separately from the video. Then I sync them in editing. It's super easy and allows me to record the audio straight into my computer.
I can't speak to that as I am not a singer so I've never used that feature. I know you can add that affect in post, but in terms of the interface, I'm not sure.
looking forward to seperate my Music setup from my streaming one , and i want to grab this for streaming and keep my Rode NT1 for music , hum , seems like a good thing to do
If I'm using this to perform live, can I plug this mic into speakers directly? And I'd use this mic as a handheld. Anything additional I need for that?
Cool video and good explanation. I tested all the components in the video and I would go with an Audient id14 mk2 instead of the Focusrite 2i2. The Audient has much cleaner preamps which means you can turn the knob much further before getting ugly noise. The 2i2 tends to add quite some noise if you turn further than about 75-80%.
I work in radio and my prod studio has both the EV-RE-20 and SM-7B... I prefer the SM-7B. Both are hooked to Symetrix 528e processors. We have 4 SM-7B's hooked up to DBX processors in another studio. Crisp... clean... SM-7B's are worth it in my humble radio opinion. (of course how you set the processing is key).
thanks for this informative video!now i can pull the trigger to grab this set up!im upgrading my sound set up for my gaming streaming,coz right niw im just using a usb mic hyperXquadcastS,i been checking this SM7B since lst year!now is the time!👍
Hi, great video. So you just answered my question. I thought this mic would pick up my voice from about a foot or two away and it won't. I need a USB mic that will pick up my voice from further away. What do you recommend?
@@LaneSebringlive I'll spend hundreds, but not thousands. I need one that will sound great at 2 to 3 feet away off frame. I do guitar tutorials and I don't want to have to keep my head next to a mic and I don't want to use a clip on (cables are a pain). Thank you!
I see other videos of people saying you need voice Interfer thing and there saying yo don’t need a cloud lifter do you need a cloud lifter cause I know you do for the two clr cables to plug in then in the 2i2 thing
Thank you for all this info. It was very alarming opening the up and not knowing what to connect. Is it possible to connect to a camera instead of a computer for video?
Yes, you can but you need to just a connector. I've not set mine up that way yet so I'm not the best person to help you there. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Is it a problem to google or youtube for a video " how to connect xlr microphone to camera? " buy a handy recorder with line out, and with that line out you put in Rode VC 1 Extension Cord and 3,5mm Stereo AUX TRS cord ( the one with two rings on the jack connector, don´t buy TRRS with 3 sleeves, it´s meant for headphone with microphone, two sleeves for headphones and one for microphone )
hey man great vid! i just had one q if i understand correctly there is no way of mounting (hanging from the psa1) the shure sm7b without the A26X Extension Tube?
@@dylamicmusic Can we please stop being ignorant enough to spell "alot" together? It's not a word, ok? A LOT - always spelled separately. Just like A LITTLE is always spelled separately.
How did you get the female side of the XLR cable to fit into the Cloudlifter? That specific cable matters brand has a clip locking mechanism that blocks the cable from locking into the cloudlifter
My shure sm7b and the 8$ plug does not fit my Røde Arm Screw... how do I go about solving this one? 2:10 ..I don't get why my screw is is SO much smaller, the plug is way to big for it.
@@LaneSebringlive I read sometimes the EU arms are different. I used my Røde mount as an in between from my blue yeti, so I was able to get things up and running :)
Can I just buy this and use the usb to connect with my mac? Is it all I need? Just a laptop and the mic itself? or do i need any other things like filter thing separately? i need to know because if it’s just the mic and ready to go i’m buying it thanks.
Will I have more buzz or any kind of undesirable noise if I use a 10 feet cable instead of 6 feet? I’d like a longer cable just in case I need to use the shure SM7B in a different set up but I’m afraid to introduce noise because of the longer cable. Of course, all these, assuming I’m using the exact same brand of cable.
@@LaneSebringlive Thank you so much for getting back to me! I’ve been experiencing some interference issues that I believe may be related to the cable. Regarding Mogami cables, do you recommend any specific "Low noise shielded high quality XLR cable" that will minimize undesirable noise? It would have to be the 2 pack with 10 feet long
If it is a cable issue you're having, you won't have issues with any Mogami cable. But, it might be something else. At least you'll know to look elsewhere.
what gain do you recommend if you want the microphone atleast a foot away and do you need the shure extender for the microphone to attach to the boom arm
For one foot away I'd set gain at a little more than halfway. And I always recommend the extender, but you can always try it without it first and get it if you need to later.
When I tried to plug in my sm7b all I got was ear piercing static, I moved my phone away in case it was to do with the frequency but it was no help. I don't have a cloud lifter, if I get one will that fix my problem?
Thank you. really great video. I want to ask, how do you connect the Shure SM7B with the Sony A6600 camera? so that I can directly record the audio on the camera. Thank you.
Thanks! Not sure on that camera, but I know on mine (Canon T7i) you have to record the audio separately into an audio box or software and then sync up the audio later.
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So is it good for gaming like streaming and recording
@@TheQuestExpresslol
jesus finally someone who breaks it down that it's easier to understand for beginners. THANK YOU.
@Li Huang I'm a beginner and I'm about to buy a shure sm7b + goxlr😅
@Li Huang such as?
God just not exist. You just stupid, author just not said something extra knoledge
@@AlejandroFedorov wrong
Ain't it the truth! The multi-lingual getting started brochures seem to miss one step after another! EVERY LITTLE STEP matters! Thanks!
Thank you, I ordered the mic and my heart dropped when I opened it and saw nothing would work. After watching so many videos this made sense. I just ordered everything else I needed through your links. Thanks for a clear video that helped a very non-techie health coach.
That’s so great! Thank you for sharing and using my links! Very glad the video helped make sense of this mic. 🙌
Immensely helpful. Most other videos take 6 mins just to unbox the mic and you do it quick and straight to the point!
Thank you, this massively helped buying the right equipment
Are you still using all the equipment after surpassing 1 million subs?
Finally!! I video that is actually understandable and easy to learn. Thanks man
I'm glad you found it helpful! 🙌
As I'm watching this video, I would like to point out a few things that I've noticed:
1.) the stand connector you mentioned is optional, as there are stands with 5/8s in connectors available
2.) you do not necessarily need a cloudlifter depending on what mixer you have. To my knowledge the Go XLR is the only one strong enough to power the SM7B, as it has 72db of gain, and the Sm7B needs at least 60 db of gain.
A lot of people make these mistakes, mainly because they tend to not be as experienced in the field of professional audio as others
good thoughts! Thanks for sharing.
In a situation where you are able to do some degree of post production, setting your SM7b to 60dB of gain isn't necessarily the best choice, as it doesn't give you any headroom, meaning that if you decide to talk louder or scream it will clip. While the GoXLR is fine, there are better quality options that cost cheaper.
The most important thing when you have a SM7b is to invest in a very good interface with quiet preamps, which makes the 2i2 a pretty poor choice actually.
@@MARUKU Well you also have to think about how many inputs the mixer has. So if you buy a 200 dollar mixer with 4 inputs, you're essentially buying a 50 dollar preamp. Thats why a lot of people tend to prefer the Go XLR for their SM7B.
My UAD Apollo Twin is also running the mic just fine.
Is the 2nd point basically suggesting that we can substitute (the following):
1 XLR cable
1 cloudlifter
1 Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 Interface
in exchange for:
1 GO XLR?
I haven't even finished watching your video and I already know that you're gonna show me everything I've been looking for. Great video, and greetings from Brazil!
Awesome! Thank you!
Absolutely fantastic video. As someone who knows nothing about audio setups but is looking to start a TH-cam channel and have very clean audio I *very* much appreciate this
Thanks Jacob! What will your channel be about?
I will be making technical content on cybersecurity and the core concepts that lead up to cybersecurity. Currently I tutor online and I see a lot of need for videos that explain complex topics in an easy-to-understand way. That's my goal with my videos :)
@@jacobbrown1445 Nice! Good luck!
so thankful for this video specially the extender part.
I went with the Audient Evo4 for my XLR/USB interface and the Fethead instead of the Cloudlifter and got an amazingly nice sound setup for even less than the one you've displayed here. Might want to look into the Evo4 at least as it is pretty awesome. Also, the Fethead can plug directly into the interface OR the SM7B (which is how I have it), allowing for just ONE high-quality XLR cable to be necessary. I also went with the Samson MBA28 Mic Boom - half the price of the Rode and is amazingly strong and stable. This setup is radio-studio quality, and I use it to record my radio program which I then send into the station as COVID rules has had the on-site studio shut down.
So you just go from the shure mic to a XLR to USB adapter and just plug into computer and that's it? Is there any noise? What I mean...is I see a lot of adapters produce noise.
@@derekroberts5931The noise floor on this setup is almost completely silent. It's so good that I record talk radio program episodes that get broadcast on a local radio station here in Madison with it.
I know all of this but my sm7b comes today and im so hyped
yess!!!
@@LaneSebringlive fucking missed it now i have to get it on monday 😥
Literally the only video about this mic that made sense to me. Thank you so much!
So great to hear! Thanks for watching.
Same here. I know next to nothing about audio setups but this video actually explained it in plain English. Appreciate it so much
@@jacobbrown1445 so glad to hear that, Jacob! Thank you.
There are like hundreds of these videos on TH-cam showing how to use SM7B and Cloudlifter lol
@@luk7n and yet, this is the one that made sense to him. The number of other videos is immaterial.
Thanks for the video! Though I'm late by 2 years lol. This is such a CLEAR video showing how the SM7b perform. I wonder why TH-cam only shows me this video after searching for things related to SM7b/SM57 for so long
Great video thanks would've guesse that your channel is so much bigger! Keep going
Thank you! Means a lot!
FINALLY!!! I been trying to find a video for everything I needed ! God bless you 😂❤
glad it was helpful!
Great video bro. Thanks a lot.
Glad you liked it!
el padre Dani! Aquí ando también mirando settings xD Que vaya todo bien y mucha salud!
sm7b is legendary for a reason.
Subscribed. This is exactly what I was looking for. Beautifully done and recorded; wonderful job Lane. Thank you! I look forward in seeing more from you
Really appreciate that!! Thank you!!
Thank you so much for making the entire process easy and straightforward. Bought everything exactly with the links and was able to setup my shure in less than an hour.
Probably the best tutorial I've ever seen on TH-cam.
You're very welcome!
thank you so much i did not even know what i was getting into
Glad it was helpful!
Same there’s so much that goes into it, I thought I would just be able to plug in my adapter
Great video, Lane. Exactly what I was looking for. I went and purchased everything on the list. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful! Thank you!
Your Video was quite straight forward and did show many things needed. However, it wasn’t without certain quirks, which I feel some additional advice might help other to make the right decisions.
If one decides to buy that microphone AND an audio interface, there is not necessarily the need for an additional inline preamplifier, like the Cloud Microphone CL-1 (or „Cloudlifter“, as they dubbed their series of preamps). If you get an audio interface with a strong, low-noise preamp in it. And there are options across the price range. Behringer UMC202HD at the low end, MOTU M2 at the mid tier class are just two examples. Both will - even with the preamps cranked give you a self-noise low enough, to render additional preamplifiers useless. The ambient noise will most likely be above the self noise, especially in noisier, untreated rooms.
To put it another way: Your setup is hardly the cheapest. The Focusrite Scarlet 2i2 currently is sold for 149 EUR / 169 USD. The Cloud Microphones „Cloudlifter“ CL-1 is currently sold for 169 EUR / 149 USD. (Yes it’s more expensive in Europe) This combination of Interface and Preamp accumulates to 318 EUR / 318 USD. The MOTU M2 is sold for 195 EUR / 179 USD (yep, again more expensive in Europe)
By no means, I would ever call your setup bad hardware. You will get very good results out of it. In fact, I’m not even sure your interface on it’s own would be too weak to begin with. The Focusrite Scarlet 2i2 provides 47 dB of gain. And don’t be scared to run it with the gain cranked. It’s ultra low noise anyways. I’m not sure how much you’d actually need to get to a signal strength of -20dB talking normally. But with a low noise interface like that, you can probably even get away with a signal strength of-24dB, since you need some post processing to get the most out of your mic anyways.
There was one thing you said about the Cloudlifter CL-1, while it was correct, should be completed: Yes, the Cloudlifter doesn’t clip the microphone, because it only adds up to 25dB of gain. (I wrote „up to“ because the exact amount of gain you get partly depends on the input impedance of the Interface among other factors.) The rest of the gain comes from the interface. But with the gain on the interface set too high, you obviously still clip the sound out of any microphone if you add an additional preamp.
While I don’t know, what microphones you know, I at least can add something to the topic of comparing the RØDE NTG to the Shure SM7B. The RØDE NTG is a small diaphragm condenser microphone, designed to be used at a distance. The Shure SM7B is a dynamic microphone, designed to be used up close. But that doesn’t mean, they cannot be used the other way around.
If you position the RØDE NTG up close and set the gain accordingly, you will be shocked, how little room noise and echoes it would pick up. But that comes at the price of requiring a very good micelles technique and probably a shock mount + a pop filter to work the best. Also the sound will be very boomy and muddy If unprocessed. On the other hand, the Shure SM7B used at a distance would do exceedingly worse than the RØDE NTG in terms of ambient noise. Also the Sound would be thins and hollow and it would need a LOT of gain. Why is that? The RØDE NTG has a super cardioid pickup pattern. This pickup pattern is slightly worse at noise rejection directly behind the microphone, but a lot better at rejecting sound from the side, forcing the sound source to be more centered. The Shure SM7B has a cardioid pickup pattern, which again is better at noise rejection from behind the microphone but picks up more from the sides, which usually covers a bigger area of usually sound reflective surfaces in a room.
Also, about the topic of „No microphone like The Shure SM7B“: I’m s(h)ure I can find plenty of alternatives. Yes, the SM7B has a certain look to it and since everyone want to be like the big podcasters or streamers, this might be some factor. But in terms of functionality, It’s easy: The Shure SM58, the Shure A55M Shock mount, the Shure A58WS wind shield. These will result in a way less expensive, (141 EUR / 127 USD) smaller, light-weight (410g / 0.9 lbs) package, which still sounds similar to the SM7B, to the point where most listeners will struggle to tell any difference between the two. And if you want the super cardioid pickup pattern, get the Shure Beta 58A, with the same shock mount and wind shield for 191 EUR / 187 USD and a weight of 360g / 0.8 lbs.
That being said: Whoever is willing to take this route, cannot use the RØDE PSA-1 Boom Arm, because that one is designed for use with microphones between 700 grams and 1100 grams of weight. But there are plenty of arms and stands available for microphones this lightweight.
Woah, Michael! This is the most comprehensive comment I've ever received on one of my videos! I learned some things reading through your thoughts. I really appreciate your watching my video and offering your perspective.
Your knowledge of audio and mics far exceeds mine! Thanks again for offering your thoughts.
Great explanation for dummies like me who want to get a good mic but don't understand anything about anything. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful! It can be confusing for sure!
Finally no one tells you what you need extra for the mic
Yep! That's why I wanted to share! Thanks for commenting!
_"oh I finally saved up enough for the shure SM7B!!!!! Wait, what do you mean I have to spend another 400 dollars on the accessory's?"_ ~Timothy, probably
What does that even mean? You'll need a cloudlifter and focusrite or something similar, plus a boom arm and an xlr cable. You dont think thats extra for a mic?
There arent any videos out there of relevance offering things that dont benefit your mic, just like the accessories offered here.
Ive been through every single shure Sm7b on the first 2 pages on TH-cam in the last week so I know from recent memory. But anyway, you got your heart from the creator so I guess thats probably what you really wanted rather than to make any real constructive point about anything based in reality.
@@DrummerJacob I mean to be fair this is the first time I've needed to buy a cloudlifter (and an extra xlr cable) for a mic. I also didn't know I would need this extender accessory to attach it to the mic stand, so I see where he's coming from.
@@DrummerJacob Why is the fact his reality of watching videos and people not going over this stuff, as a likely non XLR user prior to this mic, so offensive to you? Stop trying to make people feel bad because they found help they were after, Jesus
Focusrite 2i2 is truly a beast, I been using mine forever over 6 years now no issues
Awesome to hear!!
Yes but nowdays you can buy better ones
I have tons of video about Shure SM7B, and i never understood how it flows to your computer, thank you for breaking it down, very clear to understand, much appreciated. I am considering investing in it, but how would you hide it from the camera / webcam view (e.g when you are doing conference call, or recording yourself via webcam or camera) to that you still great audio without it blocking the view?
Thank again, keep up the good work.
Thanks for sharing! Glad it was helpful. For that you’d turn up the gain using the interface so you could have it 8-10 inches away from your mouth. I see some ppl do that snd it seems to work fine. Thanks again!!
Just buy a small diagraphm condenser microphone like Oktava MK012 and hang it above you like he does with the NTG3, I don´t recommend using shotgun mic at home, they are meant to be used outside, they pickup so much noise on background, everything would be heard. The small diagraphm condenser microphone is beign used by filmmakers to record narration
@@LaneSebringlive Yes and by putting more gain you are putting more noise to it
Thank you, I was able to set it up exactly like this, here is a first video I created with it, and I think the audio sounds good.
th-cam.com/video/L0Gq-YmrCrE/w-d-xo.html
simple as see your video and understand everything in a short minute
awesome brother you win a new subscriber
Hey thanks that was incredibly helpful! My recordings finally sound professional thanks to the Cloudlifter and your instructions.
Glad I could help!
A great no-nonsense tutorial, straight to the point - thanks a lot!
Very happy to deliver that! Thank you.
This is an amazing video. Very informative and straight to the point. Bravo
Thank you! Means a lot. Thanks so much for watching and commenting!
So thankful you did this video.. i plan on buying one, to upgrade my home office as i work from home in insurance... I will be using this for work calls (skype/zoom/conference calls).. but also use it for streaming in my personal time. and making videos or podcasting.. So good to know what all i need and how to set it up...
Awesome! You'll love it!
Great video. I'm really wanting a Shure SM7B, but I don't think I'm going to be able to budget everything in. So I may end up having to drop down to something like the At 2040 or the Rode Podmic. But I love how this video was no fluff. It was straight to the point with all the information that I needed IF I somehow get the money for the SM7B
THanks for watching and for your kind words!
I've been doing a lot of research. I know your video is a few years old, but helped me with my purchase. I did go a different route though. I bought the goXLR instead of the Scarlette and Cloud Lifter just because of the features. All arrive tomorrow. Thanks for the vid!!
Glad I could help!
Hi was the cloud lifter worth buying?
Awesome video!
I personally don't use the extender as the elgato boomarm offers much better room for the cable.
Also the cloudlifter i am not so sure about. I don't think you really need it with decent mic placement. It does work some but i don't feel like it justifies the price.
Peace fam. ✌️
I don’t comment at all on TH-cam. But I have to give you your credit bro. Well broken down, simple, detailed, straight to the point, and quick. Thank you 😤🦁
So glad you liked it! Thanks for letting me know.
Great vid, thank you! Is there any reason I shouldn't get the "Solo" Focusrite? I have no plans to ever add a 2nd mic.
yep! Totally works. You only need the 2i2 if you're planning to use a second mic. otherwise, the solo works great!
@@LaneSebringlive Thank you!
Hi I already know a lot about the sm7b just came here to make sure I didn't miss anything thank you
How about for singing and singing heavy metal ?
SM7B is awesome for singing. Used in a lot of studios.
Michael Jackson used this Mic...or a very similar version. So yes, I think if it’s good enough for him...it’s good enough for anyone
Dude, most metal bands use SM7B, so what do you think?
Lane Thank you homie! I got th exact same setup. Do you have a video about how you connect that mic to a windows computer? It would be greatly appreciated!
When i connect mine to my windows computer its like i cant hear anything and i cant figure out how to actually get it set up!
Thanks! Unfortunately no I don't. Only use macs. Sorry I'm not more help here.
Very good video btw thanks for this, definitely underrated I was surprised when I saw your subs 😅
Thank you! Means a lot!
You have completely sold me. Thank you for making this so straight forward.
Awesome! You'll love it.
Why did you choose the 2i2 and not the solo 3rd gen? Just curious was all, is the 2i2 better?
I like having the option of a second mic for when I do in person interviews.
@@LaneSebringlive Got it! Thanks for the reply!
So if I just need to plug in one mic the solo 3rd gen is fine?
@@M4CHINE Yes
Finally someone who gives the people what they want.
Glad you like it!
Having had the exact same setup, I would just like to share some thoughts. This setup is very expensive for what it does. The cloudlifter is IMHO not worth buying, its 150-200 dollars (depending on region) for 25 dbs of "clean" gain. For the same price you could get the dbx 286s, which offers 45 dbs of clean gain, compression, gate/expander, a de-esser and high and low frequency enhancers. It is rack-size thoug, but I just have it lying on the floor. It's sturdily built.
However, If I were to get a new SM7B audio chain today, I would try to get the Motu M2, which acts as an interface and will provide plenty of clean gain to power the sm7b. It can double as a very high quality soundcard/dac-amp and gives you the lowest lantecy possible. It comes in at about the same price or a bit more than just the cloudlifter, but you would be saving the costs of buying the scarlett. Words cannot describe how good the Motu M2 is, but perhaps the fact that it is out of stock all the time can haha. You save money and gain sound quality and lower latency, what is there to complain about.
Thanks for watching and for sharing your thoughts! I'll definitely check out the Motu M2 and review it. Thanks again!
DBX has 60dB of gain
@@luk7n ye but it has weird tonal qualities on the sm7b at full gain and >-15 db output in my experience. Realistically gives 45db, but you are right.
You finally get another subscriber from me...am a beginner and this is good work indeed I loved it .... can't wait for more from you 😘
Thank you 🙌
Around $900 to set this up including the arm. Gets expensive. I want one, not sure if I want to drop almost a grand on the setup
It’s definitely not cheap.
What are you planning on creating? If you're not concerned about quality audio, stick with your current setup.
@@AskAW I like to have really nice stuff it's just how I am. Maybe I'll start making youtube videos or doing some freelance work involving my voice. Or just to talk to people online. I bought the mic, I'll put it to good use.
@@LaneSebringlive I’m watching this for the parts segment I didn’t think the cloud lifter and arm would be as expensive as it is as the interface/mixer I got a goxlr though
Thank you! I just subscribed because how you made this so much easier to understand.
Awesome, thank you!
hey, first of all: nice tutorial on how you could use the sm7b! You could buy an extra cheap tube preamp instead of the cloudlifter for better sound. for example the A.R.T. tube mp goes for around 30$ or even 20$ used. It provides a nicer, warmer sound and even offers 70db of gain wich is fairly enough for the shure sm7b. for the rest of the money you saved from not buying a cloudlifter, you could get a nice dbx compressor for example. In my opinion this would be a much better sounding setup. Greetings from Germany
Thanks for sharing!
Hey Latzi, ich wollte mir das sm7b holen und bin ein kompletter Anfänger.
Ich möchte wie du erwähnt hast nicht unbedingt ein cloudlifter holen um einfach das Geld zu sparen.
Daher wärst du so lieb mir zu erklären was ich alles für das sm7b bräuchte um es fürs Streamen zu benutzen?
LG Onur
@@onurkeles686 Aber klar doch. Um das SM7b zu betreiben brauchst du eigentlich nur ein solides Interface. Beispiele dafür wären zum Beispiel das NI Komplete Audio 1/2. Wichtig ist nur, dass du es so besprichst, wie es auch gedacht ist. Also von Vorne aus nicht mehr als 5cm Entfernung. Dann brauchst du auch nicht so viel Gain (Lautstärke) um auf einen guten Pegel zu kommen. Bevor du dir aber zum streamen ein solch teures und in meinen Augen dumpf klingendes Mikrofon holst, solltest du definitiv mal einen Blick auf die Konkurrenz werfen. Das Rode Procaster, Shure sm57 oder aber ein Se V7 klingen wirklich hammer! Für die gilt auch: gutes Interface und von nahem besprechen. für genauere Infos und Hilfe kannst du gerne auf den Discord discord.gg/u9dZgmT3b2 joinen. Da sind einige Hobby Tontechniker und ich :) Wir helfen gerne.
i had bought it for my music , this mic is a banger
That's awesome! yeah, the mic is incredible
Best Shure SM7B Mic video I’ve seen on TH-cam! I finally understand what I need to buy and why! Thank you 🙏
I love hearing that!! Thank you! Glad it helped!
In other words, "I'm never going to be able to get this microphone."
thanks i was thinking about geting this and now i will because of how you helped me set it up
So glad I could help! Thanks for watching and commenting!
you dont need a cloudlifter
What do we use then?
the fuck is a voice gate @CalebPlays13
Thank you for such a thorough walkthrough!!! BTW unrelated. I love how big your desk looks. Do you have a link to the desk?
Thanks! Unfortunately it's custom made by a carpenter friend of mine. He's made me four of them and they're all amazing.
Total amount for everything in this video: $745
You must have found some good deals! It's typically just under $900
@@LaneSebringlive Sorry I didn't count the boom arm as I already have one. So its $745 for everything not counting the boom arm.
@@Ryzse Gotcha! still not cheap. ;)
Thanks for making this man! I wasn't quite sure if I was buying the right equipment. But now I am.
Awesome!! So glad to know it was helpful!
"wont break the bank" $700?
$700 is a great deal for all this. It’s usually around $900 for this setup.
But yes, more to your point, it’s not for everyone.
@@LaneSebringlive true that, we both have our points, and other people won’t always go for this microphone, either way, great video, this taught me a couple of things, thank you, and enjoy your day! ❤️
The best video on this mic that helped me get my set up right! The extender is a must for the shure sm7b for sure. Thank you!
Glad it helped! Thanks for sharing!
I will definitely use your link, how do you connect to your camera (was there any wire that connect from interface to the camera? Could you explain please. Thank you!!
I record the audio separately from the video. Then I sync them in editing. It's super easy and allows me to record the audio straight into my computer.
Can you put some echo/reverb using the interface for singing?
I can't speak to that as I am not a singer so I've never used that feature. I know you can add that affect in post, but in terms of the interface, I'm not sure.
looking forward to seperate my Music setup from my streaming one , and i want to grab this for streaming and keep my Rode NT1 for music , hum , seems like a good thing to do
If I'm using this to perform live, can I plug this mic into speakers directly? And I'd use this mic as a handheld. Anything additional I need for that?
yep! You can plug it in directly using an XLR cable to a direct box. Direct boxes are cheap. The mic is great for vocals.
Does it have to be a 2i2 scarlett? Can it be the Focusrite Scarlett Solo 3rd Gen which only has one cable input I think?
Yep that works too!
Sounds great!
Excellent video. Has anyone set this up without the cloudlifter? If so, how was it? cheers
Hi there, how different would a cloudlifter be vs the sE DM1? They are both inline pre-amp. Thank in advance. wonderful video
Perfect vid for what I needed, thanks dude. Clear, concise, no bs. Rare nowadays!
Cool video and good explanation. I tested all the components in the video and I would go with an Audient id14 mk2 instead of the Focusrite 2i2. The Audient has much cleaner preamps which means you can turn the knob much further before getting ugly noise. The 2i2 tends to add quite some noise if you turn further than about 75-80%.
Do you have a video on the settings for this microphone? Or do you just plug it in and off you go?
I have a video on the settings! It's a few videos later after this one came out.
@@LaneSebringlive awesome cheers great explanation saving up for this
I've been looking for a video this clear for a couple years. Thank you so much!
You're very welcome!
I work in radio and my prod studio has both the EV-RE-20 and SM-7B... I prefer the SM-7B. Both are hooked to Symetrix 528e processors. We have 4 SM-7B's hooked up to DBX processors in another studio. Crisp... clean... SM-7B's are worth it in my humble radio opinion. (of course how you set the processing is key).
Thanks sooo much! Every other vid never shows you how to put it up and stuff! Subbed :D
So glad I could help! Thank you so much for subbing and commenting!
This was a really good video, thank you!
You sir are awesome 😎 thank you… best video by far explaining how it all works and a link for everything item which made it so simple 👏 thanks
You're welcome!
What software do you use, can i also use these settings for gaming, and also what are your settings to get this mic to sound good
I just use Garageband.
finally somebody who isn't super objective and gets straight to the point. tired of all of these reviewers with extremely bias opinions.
thanks for this informative video!now i can pull the trigger to grab this set up!im upgrading my sound set up for my gaming streaming,coz right niw im just using a usb mic hyperXquadcastS,i been checking this SM7B since lst year!now is the time!👍
You’ll love it!
Yo!!!!!!! Thank u so much for this video! It’s really helpful to setup 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽I’m definitely subscribing🙌🏽🙌🏽
Dude - thank you for the simple breakdown!
Hi, great video. So you just answered my question. I thought this mic would pick up my voice from about a foot or two away and it won't. I need a USB mic that will pick up my voice from further away. What do you recommend?
Great question! There are some good options. What is your budget?
@@LaneSebringlive I'll spend hundreds, but not thousands. I need one that will sound great at 2 to 3 feet away off frame. I do guitar tutorials and I don't want to have to keep my head next to a mic and I don't want to use a clip on (cables are a pain). Thank you!
@@LaneSebringlive Also happy to consider an XLR if that opens up the possibilities.
Do you need a cloudlifter or is it also ok without?
You can always start without one and only add it if you need it!
I see other videos of people saying you need voice Interfer thing and there saying yo don’t need a cloud lifter do you need a cloud lifter cause I know you do for the two clr cables to plug in then in the 2i2 thing
Thank you for all this info. It was very alarming opening the up and not knowing what to connect. Is it possible to connect to a camera instead of a computer for video?
Yes, you can but you need to just a connector. I've not set mine up that way yet so I'm not the best person to help you there. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Is it a problem to google or youtube for a video " how to connect xlr microphone to camera? " buy a handy recorder with line out, and with that line out you put in Rode VC 1 Extension Cord and 3,5mm Stereo AUX TRS cord ( the one with two rings on the jack connector, don´t buy TRRS with 3 sleeves, it´s meant for headphone with microphone, two sleeves for headphones and one for microphone )
hey man great vid! i just had one q if i understand correctly there is no way of mounting (hanging from the psa1) the shure sm7b without the A26X Extension Tube?
nvm there is might still get the tube in the future awesome vid! it helped me alot
Glad to hear!
@@dylamicmusic Can we please stop being ignorant enough to spell "alot" together? It's not a word, ok? A LOT - always spelled separately. Just like A LITTLE is always spelled separately.
Amber Leaf, what would we do without you?
How did you get the female side of the XLR cable to fit into the Cloudlifter? That specific cable matters brand has a clip locking mechanism that blocks the cable from locking into the cloudlifter
hmm, I haven't had that problem.
One side of the cloud lifter is a female input and the other side is a male output
Good I got the scarlet 2i2 now for the mic to micro center.
This was so helpful. Thanks for taking the time to post this!
So glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching and for your kind words!
My shure sm7b and the 8$ plug does not fit my Røde Arm Screw... how do I go about solving this one? 2:10 ..I don't get why my screw is is SO much smaller, the plug is way to big for it.
Sorry to hear, not sure what is wrong there. Usually the sizes are made to fit universally.
@@LaneSebringlive I read sometimes the EU arms are different. I used my Røde mount as an in between from my blue yeti, so I was able to get things up and running :)
@@thomandyplays5945 great to hear!
I use the Shure without the cludlifer on the Behringer Xenyx 802 USB and it works for me.
Awesome!
Yes, brilliant break down & simple to follow … my next question - what is your recommended software for VO?
I use Screenflow for just about everything, and thank you!
Thanks so much for the help! I'm in the process of creating a streaming setup for twitch and this helped greatly.
Awesome! So glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching! Good luck to you.
Can I just buy this and use the usb to connect with my mac? Is it all I need? Just a laptop and the mic itself? or do i need any other things like filter thing separately? i need to know because if it’s just the mic and ready to go i’m buying it thanks.
you need an audio interface with it, this mic is quite dB hungry
Will I have more buzz or any kind of undesirable noise if I use a 10 feet cable instead of 6 feet? I’d like a longer cable just in case I need to use the shure SM7B in a different set up but I’m afraid to introduce noise because of the longer cable. Of course, all these, assuming I’m using the exact same brand of cable.
If you’re going long on the cable I definitely recommend Mogami cables.
@@LaneSebringlive Thank you so much for getting back to me! I’ve been experiencing some interference issues that I believe may be related to the cable. Regarding Mogami cables, do you recommend any specific "Low noise shielded high quality XLR cable" that will minimize undesirable noise? It would have to be the 2 pack with 10 feet long
If it is a cable issue you're having, you won't have issues with any Mogami cable. But, it might be something else. At least you'll know to look elsewhere.
TH-cam recommended this to me and I'm happy it did!
I’m getting all of them except for the cloud. Is the cloud important? And does it make your mic work?
You can always start without it and only get it if you need more clean gain.
what gain do you recommend if you want the microphone atleast a foot away and do you need the shure extender for the microphone to attach to the boom arm
For one foot away I'd set gain at a little more than halfway. And I always recommend the extender, but you can always try it without it first and get it if you need to later.
@@LaneSebringlive thanks man and one more question i dont want to spend more money on the 2i2 so would the scarlet solo 3rd gen work well with this
At least is spelled separately, bro.
@@amberleaf7 it’s not a big deal are you really wasting your time to correct my spelling
You actually newd dbx pre amp for shure to get the best out of it.
Thanks! I'll check that out!
When I tried to plug in my sm7b all I got was ear piercing static, I moved my phone away in case it was to do with the frequency but it was no help. I don't have a cloud lifter, if I get one will that fix my problem?
Thank you. really great video. I want to ask, how do you connect the Shure SM7B with the Sony A6600 camera? so that I can directly record the audio on the camera. Thank you.
Thanks! Not sure on that camera, but I know on mine (Canon T7i) you have to record the audio separately into an audio box or software and then sync up the audio later.
Will xlr cables brand type effects thw audio? Or will any xlr cables works just best?
They all pretty much work the same. I just chose the ones I did based on how they look. That the connectors are black instead of chrome metal look.
@@LaneSebringlive thankyou!