I have watched something like half a dozen Civic hybrid reviews by now from all the major car channels. Not only are they all positive - they’re all enthusiastically positive. Honda’s new generation of cars (minus the Accord) will be historic for Honda when this is all said and done - probably the best generation as a whole in the last 3 decades.
I’m still rocking my 2005 Honda Civic base model that I bought new in 2005. 247,000 miles so far. Runs great. I pay $275 a year with liability only insurance. I would love to get a new car but just doesn’t make any financial sense.
I have 2003 Civic, brought when I graduated. I can't seem to let go even though it has been having some starter issues. It serves as a spare to my 2021 Rav4Hybrid. Rock on!
@@janoycresnova9156 This is the point. Life is too short to be working until you're 65! Instead of a crazy vehicle payment, put that money into an etf every month and you can easily retire at 50 and enjoy the life of freedom while you are middle aged and more likely to be healthy. That $1000 monthly payment for a luxury vehicle would turn into $1.25M after 25 years. Then you can buy whatever you want, CASH! But hey, we all have different priorities. I work hard so I can become free asap, you work hard so you have have nice things. But those nice things come at a cost of delaying your freedom.
@@janoycresnova9156 Life is too short to work your entire life. That fancy vehicle comes at a huge cost. I would rather put that money into an ETF every month and retire wealthy at 50. Freedom while I am still young and healthy enough to enjoy it. Then I can buy whatever I want, CASH. Rather than driving a nice car my entire life but working until I am a senior. No thank you.
My Civic Sport Touring Hybrid in Blue Lagoon Pearl will be here in December can't wait great video thank you so encouraging I feel finally I made a good choice so happy when Zach and Andrea are happy you can't go wrong cheers!
A few weeks ago my wife and I tested a new Civic Sport Tpuring Hybrid and came away very impressed. The 2 things we did note was that the front passenger seat needs more adjustibility as you do sit too low and the lack of rear hvac vents and no connectivity seems like a major miss and a poor way to cut costs. Are these deal breakers....probably not. The other issue is black only interior except with the Blue Lagoon you can get grey. So tired of black only interiors.
Great review and a wonderful vehicle. My biggest gripe with this is no rear vents and no rear connectivity. These are not deal breakers, but for that kind of money rear vents and connectivity should be standard. Can’t wait to see a review on the hatchback hybrid, which would be my preference. Makes me wish I had waited a year, but I do love my 2024 EX-L hatch that I bought last October.
Rear vents are standard on all but the bare-bones base trim in Sweden. As is lumbar support for driver, which seems to be unavailable in some markets. Very odd omissions imo.
So the civic does not have an All-wheel-Drive option? Why would anybody in the North want to buy a front wheel drive small car when having to deal with winter conditions for 4 to 5 months of each year?
You guys have some of the best reviews. When I'm trying to find out info on one of the vehicles I'm interested in I turn to your channel. Love you guys, keep up the great reviews.
It's funny I felt the same about the current gen Civic's front end that it looks so much like the Honda's in the 90's, especially the 2022-2024 Civics before the 2025 facelift.
You guys nailed this video. The first thing I thought of when you said the seat height doesn’t adjust…. Totally a safety reason! The lower you sit the better the frame protects you
I test drove it and I'm sold. It's butter smooth and the torque is really nice when it accelerates from stop. Going up a steep climb is effortless. Also, I test drove the new Prius but I went with the civic.
@@janoycresnova9156also would require an all new platform of a heavy retrofit to an existing platform… yall just think anything can be done easily and costs no money. Feelings … you operate only on feelings and no logic in these comments, it’s a bit maddening 😅just sayin feelings😅
In my opinion, it's missing five key features. 1. Rear vents 2. Rear charge ports 3. Ventilated seats up front 4. Passenger height adjustment 5. Rear electric motor (AWD) Other than these, it's really worth considering. I really wish it had the first three. What do you think?
Wonder where you’re at, because the Honda dealers in my area wouldn’t budge whatsoever. Meanwhile I got a Camry for less than a civic sport touring hatchback, and love it.
@@steve8803 Never knew the best selling sedan in America for the last 20+ years with its primary drivers being quality and reliability is “lower quality”. It was a midsize/full-size sedan that rode better, also felt well-built, and had more equipment than a Civic compact sedan that’s supposed to be priced less even without having to negotiate, but the dealers in my area wouldn’t budge and that kind of turned me away. And ultimately, Camry won my business.
I just got quoted today at the dealership for the white sport touring sedan in the white pearl which is $500 extra for the paint. $32.400. Is that better than what you paid?
The tire repair kit is a personal downer for me!! I regularly take road trips to more rural areas. Can’t rely on a can to fix a flat. The new Camry fit one in.
@@LafemmebearMusicthe point is I prefer a real spare tire not a repair kit those only work for certain types of flats. I guess you I prefer a tow truck 😂😂
In answering the question about comparing the Corolla Hybrid to the Civic Hybrid, I'm surprised there was no mention of the huge disparity in power (138 hp, Corolla; 200 hp, Civic), or that the Civic Hybrid is also offered as a hatchback. The Corolla still usesToyota's previous-generation hybrid system, while the Civic Hybrid uses Honda's latest. The greatly-raised insurance premiums for a Civic have to be part of the equation, too, though.
It would be amazing if you could actually purchase a new Civic hybrid or Camry hybrid for msrp. Dealers in the Puget Sound area are adding up to $7000 in dealer added options that are not optional! Great car and video!
@@kenhoward3512in canada we only have 2-3 trims and if you order if someone delears may take your deposit and will see if they can sell it to someine with mark up been there done that. Had to cancel the order
Amazing look at the new Civic. They are great little cars. I had the 2022 sport touring for 2 years. It was a little difficult getting in and out of the car. My wife also had issue with the passenger seat. But we enjoyed everything thing else about it. Especially the handling. We had to up size and took the opportunity to go hybrid.
Been waiting for you test this Civic Hybrid and love it. If you both upgrade to this Civic you would save money on gas specially with the boys driving.
I'll have to dive into the technical specs at some point to form a more informed opinion on it. However, initial thoughts are quite good. I agree with you guys that as an overall package, it's very well done. I agree a height adjustment (even if manual) for the passenger seat would be nice and the larger infotainment screen with wireless capability should be standard. Looks like they nailed everything else though. I'm sure they'll sell every one they make with relative ease.
Great review! Nice car, this generation looks great! but I’d like to see at least as an option for extra money, head up display, passenger seat with full settings package, AWD version, 2nd row vents for extra money. And of course more interior color options
I've seen a lot of reviews on this lately and it is a great car to drive overall. Thing is, I have yet to see journalists highlight the high pricing for this car that puts it in Camry/Accord territory price wise. And while Honda is trying to position this as "premium" it's missing expected premium features that are available on a Chevy Trax, Kia Soul, Kia K4, or VW Jetta. I ended up getting a Camry XLE for less OTD compared to a Civic hatchback touring, as Honda dealers wouldn't budge on this car.
yes expensive and shoppers can seriously shop Camry with AWD for almost the same money. Missing vents and some other small details really misses the point. Hatch out the door is $47K YIKES
Yeah. No power lumbar support in 2024-2025 on a 33k car is borderline insulting, considering you can get it on a Chevy Trax or Kia Soul. And then no airvents is borderline insulting considering a Corolla Cross and Camry have it standard for less, and even the base CRV and Rav4 have it standard for less. And then no available ventilated rear seats when a Jetta has it available for less. I just expect it to have all those nice features if it's the most expensive in the class, and it doesn't.
It’s a really good looking car, and I mean for the price the performance and the economy. It’s a home run. I think why it is perceived as maybe a bit boring is because you see so many of them on the road. Especially from the rear. When they first came out, I remember looking at them and being like wow that looks like a Audi from a couple years ago but just like a model 3 or a model S now there are so many on the road that they could be perceived as boring.👌💯
It doesn’t matter what province it seems. Here in Alberta my 2020 Honda Civic Touring which only has 24,000kms I pay 2500 a year for full coverage, which is quite high but the Civic in Alberta is the #3 in stolen cars believe it or not the Honda CVR is number 1 and the F150 in number 2.
We did a side by side comparison with our 2022 Honda Civic touring, thinking we might upgrade. A few things the new model didn’t have… no phone ports in the back( why take that out. We have teens and would need to run cords from front to back. ). Some of the chrome trim around the window that looked really nice is no longer on the new touring. No fog lights. The rims look cheaper. And even though the speaker system says it’s the same, the quality of sound seemed less nuanced on the new one. I’m not sure if they down graded the speakers a little…. Maybe it’s just my imagination. However, the drive was quieter and more enthusiastic. Acceleration felt great. And the naturally aspirated 2.0 paired with the hybrid system might have better long term reliability vs the 1.5 turbo charged engine?? But for 2l/100km improved fuel economy I think I’ll stick with what I have. For a new buyer it’s a slam dunk though. Buy and enjoy. Great car!!!
@@6ec6YRFPTcC There is a 4K CAD difference in price between Civic LX and Sport (gas version). Honda can easily squeeze in Civic LX Hybrid at just 2K CAD more than LX gas version.
I think Honda is about two years away from going straight hybrid on all of their vehicles no more exclusive gas models. He gets such amazing gas mileage, using the hybrid. The hybrid engine performs the SI engine.
First I was planning on buying either the 2018 Accord 2.0T or the 2017 Camry V6 for the 0-60 mph acceleration that I wanted. Then I thought about buying the new Prius to get the 50 mpg fuel economy that I wanted. Now I can buy the Civic Hybrid and get both the acceleration, and the fuel-economy, all in one vehicle!
I was carefully evaluating whether I wanted the Honda Civic hybrid or the Toyota Prius hybrid hatchback. My final decision was the Prius hatchback, I thought that the Prius with all wheel drive had amazing pick up and handled great. I also like the styling of the Prius better as well. I thought it was much sportier. Of course everybody’s opinion is different, and that’s just my opinion. I’m happy that I bought the 2024 Prius. I just got it today.
It really is amazing how good basic cars now are. This thing has a 0-60 time that would have been faster than most sports sedans 20 years ago (and the current Civic Si) and gets better mileage than a Prius of that vintage. And it drives well and has easy to use controls.
Located in Toronto and just did a insurance quote. It's definitely the theft / accident rate here and not the battery. Quoted 2025 Civic Regular at 3200 and 2025 Civic Regular at 3300. It's so much! We have an Audi Q3 and this over 1000 more!
I own a 2019 GTI autobann and this new civic hybrid hatchback. It’s fun for both. The GTI has a firmer ride and it’s more power but this hybrid is more comfy and it’s also fun and more fuel economical.
have to say,sounds like you are both very impressed...looks fine to me..Zachs comment on how it will age is so true...think it will age very well..my 16 year old Accord certainly has..definately will be worth a look when we are looking for a replacement vehicle...all the best.🙂
I ordered my boost blue hatchback and should have it mid November. In the US shop around before committing, there are dealers offering meaningful discounts
In the UK Honda trim levels are Elegance, Sport and Advance. All except Type R are hybrids and there is a CRV PHEV as well. No new Honda sedans / saloons are available. The lineup is : Jazz (not the old Fit) 1.5H 120 hp HRV (not US one) 1.5H 130 hp ANY1 (electric HRV) 204 hp Civic (hatch hybrid only) 184hp ZRV (US HRV) H 184hp FWD CRV (Hybrid and PHEV) 204 hp Type R. Only non hybrid manual !!
Regen ... it has to be useful on ice in winter I'm thinking ... let me know if so. I like when my cars gear down in a glide as it helps in winter so much.
That would've been part of a deal breaker for me. Also, Honda STILL, after all these years with their tiny infotainment/driver screens. I would've gone with the 2024 Toyota Camry personally. I liked the price, the design and the features more.
My issue with Honda is their princing. When you cross shop, you find that Honda doesn't offer a great value when compared to other non luxury brands. To the person who asked about the Camry vs Civic, run get the camery with no hesitations. It is not like a Civic has a BMW driving dynamics. The Camery is more roomy as well.
It's cars like these that make e.v. adoption difficult for the average driver who want a reliable, economical, decently refined daily driver. No range anxiety with excellent mpg
Awesome review as usual!! Love the civic but Hondas prices are crazy. Why no base model. We were a Honda family with cars/power equipment and motorcycles. We had to buy a new vehicle this year and we went with a new Kona!
For the price, a '24 Accord touring makes the most sense. I do love the look (not in love with the front fascia; need to see one in person) and specs of this '25 Civic hybrid, but it's going to be spendy and hard to find one at MSRP. I feel you on the seat heat brother...
Honda, add height adjust for the passenger seat, (and vent both) with dual lumbar support, add rear vents with USB, and offer a heated steering wheel. Some of these and a Pano Roof are offered in Europe. For those of us who will NEVER buy an Accord, get your act together with this Civic!
If I am not mistaken the Camry isn’t that much larger than a Civic. I think even cargo capacity is less than 1 cubic foot. The Civic almost competes more with the Prius/Camry rather than Corolla/Camry. I love my Civic so I am bias but will admit you won’t go wrong with either brand. Both the hybrid systems have been around for a while.
I have a 2011 civic coupe with 99,900 miles on it. I need some regular maintenance done but I am probably going to keep it till death do us part. These prices are outrageous for what used to be economy cars.
I'm surprised that the Corolla starts at less than the Hyundai. A coworker had a Camry hybrid and changed to the Accord hybrid because he said that the Toyota would not drive in EV mode at over 40 km/h. I've been driving the 2019 Niro and it's been great.
I like the new facelift. The styling on the Civic much better than the Accord, it has stronger lines on side profile, and the front overhang doesn't look as long.
I have owned 4 hondas and love them all (currently have one), but the civic hybrid has no ventilated seats at any price (a must in the hot south). The civic hybrid interior is dour black (add some color options) and imagine its a heat sink in the summer. Come on Honda, you can do better in the civic, the accord has a white interior option I think. A caramel interior would be nice too.
@@roundabout1419 On the sport touring hybrid (top of the line), the interior colors available are grey or black and only black in some exterior colors. At least it was 10/8/24 when I went to build the car on their website.
Hearing there's no satellite radio is unfortunately a deal breaker. I do tons of road tripping, and cell phone service isn't 100%. That's unfortunate, because I really like the Civic hatchback.
Once you drive a Honda, you don’t even cross shop a Toyota. Toyota’s are for people who want a soft ride & boring driving dynamic’s. Camry’s are popular with taxi’s or retired people. The Honda looks young & sporty. ❤
My #1 reason for looking at the new Civic is the hatchback version. For some reason your review made it appear there was no hatchback version. Don't feel bad you're not the only reviewer that missed it.
I test drove one last week at it was shockingly good. Will the Honda hybrid system work if the car is parked outdoors in winter (-30 deg C) with no ability to plug in a block heater? I’ve dug into older Honda hybrid manuals and they recommended to park in a garage, and avoid parking outdoors where it can get too hot/cold (because car may not start). The manual for this car states car may not start if hybrid battery is too cold or hot. That seems like a big risk to me….
There's a STOP SALE in effect here in the USA for thousands of cars if you're planning on buying a 2025 Civic. I tried buying a 25 Sport sedan last week at a local dealer and they couldn't sell it to me because of a recall for the high-pressure fuel pump. I was pretty disappointed.
Camry is absolutely a better value for about the same dollar amount. You get similar or better fuel economy, more space and more features. The Civic doesn’t make logical/practical sense unless you need something that is easier to park in tight spaces and don’t care about missing the rear seat HVAC vents. Other reasons to get the Civic are just subjective preferences about how it drives or looks vs the Camry. The Civic hybrids are also missing a spare tire, but the sedan version of the Civic hybrid has enough space under the trunk floor to fit a compact spare if you are willing to spend a few hundred dollars to buy all the spare tire parts yourself.
I completely agree. I got an XLE, no options, for less OTD compared to a Civic hatchback touring as Honda dealers wouldn't budge on this car. I love this car, but I love it if it's priced like it's competitors, aka Corolla and Elantra. If hybrid sedan maxed out at 30k, and hatchback maybe 31k, I'd have gotten it in a heartbeat and not cared about negotiating. This is leaps and bounds over competitors. But it's priced like cars a class above while missing key features I expect at that price, and at that point this car made no sense for me.
@@eastexotic same. Now if you want to compare the civic hatchback hybrid to a Prius as they’re similar in price, now maybe that’s a better argument. But Prius basically invented this segment/technology, so even if the civic might drive better, the Prius will likely outlive it while also being very nice, good-looking, and well-received by journalists.
They're not about the same. Civic is a good $4-5k less. It drives better, more premium on the inside and there is none of that stigma associated with a Camry name.
@@janoycresnova9156 Civic absolutely isn’t $4-$5K less. Look at the starting prices of the Civic hybrid Sport vs Camry LE hybrid. You are extremely confused.
It looks like a perfect commuter car. I can't imagine having a 7 inch touch screen as standard equipment. A tire repair kit is a no for me. I would get the Camry instead. It's a whole different class of vehicles for $2,100 more. Camry!
@@runningawayvagabond5876take a wild guess. I'll give you a hint: something has remained stagnant for almost 20 years. And it's no bargain anymore. It stopped being a bargain a decade ago.
@@janoycresnova9156 The Si is a BARGAIN! For it not to be there would need to be equivalent vehicles out there for less money or that offers 'more' for similar money. Please fill us all in on what those vehicles are.
5:05 what year and how many miles does your civic have Andrea? I have the same way in the past with my car suspension settling over time and for various reason. One reason, I felt maybe was because the car suspension settled and aged
Team Motormouth, If I was providing the sports metaphor, the Civic would get a triple. In order to earn a home run it would need AWD like its main competitor. If Honda wants a grand slam rating for their hybrid sedan, they need to make rear seat headroom as generous as that in the front. 😉
Nice looking car both inside and out. But where Honda has failed is the Civic is more of a younger generation car and not having standard wireless carplay and android auto is big mistake, and lots also enjoy satellite radio as well. Not having an option for AWD against the Corolla could lose some customers, IMO. Very good review!
To purchase this in Canada, Honda Canada is charging 7.49% for 60 months. That alone will keep vehicles on Honda lots unsold. Why not offer a much lower rate or even 0% to help dealers and buyers buy their products.
Do the Honda hybrids have a sort of camp mode like most Toyotas that you can run climate off battery with the engine coming on once in awhile to recharge the battery?
I have heard that the seats of Civic are very comfortable. Is it true? I have a CX5 and I cant drive it more than couple of hours. My sciatica kicks in killing my back.
I just got mine It's the Sports model and I just think it's a better deal unless you want $4000 of toys This is a great car, it's fun, quick (really quick), frugal, quiet and comfortable. I just did a 500km run with 5.2l/100km (+/- 45mpg) If you want one ... Do not hesitate Only bad thing is the size of the tires (really expensive winter tires)
Its wonderful that we now have a number of great, tried and true hybrids to choose from. Thank you Honda, Toyota, & Kia/Hyundai. The US carmakers need to do better (although Ford has had a couple pretty good hybrids, but they are not badly outclassed by the Asians . Now if they will only produce enough of them and if dealers will sell them at MSRP.
Hi Zack and Andrea, what are your thoughts on the Civic Hybrid vs. Prius / Prius Prime? I realize the Prime being a PHEV has a different powertrain, but wondering how you would compare the two overall in terms of driving experience, handing etc. The Civic Hybrid will be coming out in a hatchback soon, so interested to see how they compare.
In Canada, the pricing of this Civic doesn't make sense since you can get the much better Camry (imo) for the same price as indicated in the video. In terms of looks, I agree with Zack that this Civic looks boring; the hatchback improves on that a bit but neither is in the same league as something like the Camry or Prius (which you can also get at a similar price) in terms of looks. The lack of AWD, which is offered on all the Toyota hybrids, is also a definite minus, at least for Canada. I think that this Civic will cannibalize sales from the Accord more than any car from the competition since the Accord hybrid's price is even more absurd and anyone who has their heart set on a Honda hybrid sedan would probably find the Civic a better value for their money. For me, if I'm in the market for a hybrid sedan, it'll probably be a Toyota.
Civic Hybrid is 35k. Base bare bones Camry is 37k and is FWD. First AWD Camry is 40k. Like they mentioned in the video, civic is more fun to drive and is quieter.
Both the Civic and Camry are great cars! Really, you can't go wrong with either. Price wise they are close-ish - Civic Hybrid is $35,200 and Camry SE front wheel drive with the optional SE package (sunroof 18" alloys, smart key, etc) to make the equipment levels similar is $39,200.- So $4k more gets you the bigger Camry with legendary Toyota reliability and durability or save the $4k and get the Civic which is a bit sportier and drives great and I think offers more features but I admit I didn't dig too deep into the spec sheets. If you need the room - Camry all day long. If not, the Civic will save you some dollars and still get you Honda reliability and durability and more 'stuff'. The new Prius is even more $$$ with the most basic one starting at just over $40k but oh my does it look amazing! Never thought I'd say that about a Prius but wow did Toyota ever do a good job on that design. We are spoilt for choice to have great options like these.
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I bought a 24 crv hybrid and absolutely love this drivetrain. The civic is no doubt a great fit .
My wife got the crv hybrid now i want to trade in my 18hatch sport for a civic hatch hybrid 😂
I have watched something like half a dozen Civic hybrid reviews by now from all the major car channels. Not only are they all positive - they’re all enthusiastically positive. Honda’s new generation of cars (minus the Accord) will be historic for Honda when this is all said and done - probably the best generation as a whole in the last 3 decades.
The accord is still a great car. It just needs more interior color options and exterior styling update
any lower trims?
We love ours! It’s so much fun!
@@ciello___8307 The pricing kinda hinders it too, especially compared to the Camry.
Love everything about it EXCEPT they really ruined the typically excellent Honda steering! It’s vague and delayed in the hybrid.
I just bought the hatchback hybrid touring sport last night. Love it so far.
Did you have to pay over msrp for it at the dealer
I’m still rocking my 2005 Honda Civic base model that I bought new in 2005. 247,000 miles so far. Runs great. I pay $275 a year with liability only insurance. I would love to get a new car but just doesn’t make any financial sense.
I have 2003 Civic, brought when I graduated. I can't seem to let go even though it has been having some starter issues. It serves as a spare to my 2021 Rav4Hybrid. Rock on!
@@eastexotic Good for you! My 2005 Honda Civic is my one and only car but I really like the Toyota RAV4 so great choice!
What's the point of working if you never spend your money then? Life is too short to drive an econo box the entire time.
@@janoycresnova9156 This is the point. Life is too short to be working until you're 65! Instead of a crazy vehicle payment, put that money into an etf every month and you can easily retire at 50 and enjoy the life of freedom while you are middle aged and more likely to be healthy. That $1000 monthly payment for a luxury vehicle would turn into $1.25M after 25 years. Then you can buy whatever you want, CASH! But hey, we all have different priorities. I work hard so I can become free asap, you work hard so you have have nice things. But those nice things come at a cost of delaying your freedom.
@@janoycresnova9156 Life is too short to work your entire life. That fancy vehicle comes at a huge cost. I would rather put that money into an ETF every month and retire wealthy at 50. Freedom while I am still young and healthy enough to enjoy it. Then I can buy whatever I want, CASH. Rather than driving a nice car my entire life but working until I am a senior. No thank you.
My Civic Sport Touring Hybrid in Blue Lagoon Pearl will be here in December can't wait great video thank you so encouraging I feel finally I made a good choice so happy when Zach and Andrea are happy you can't go wrong cheers!
I've driven it and was really impressed with the driving dynamics! I've ordered a blue sport touring hatchback. Looking forward to it!
I have been watching lot or car reviews lately. I trust this channel the most. Great job.
A few weeks ago my wife and I tested a new Civic Sport Tpuring Hybrid and came away very impressed. The 2 things we did note was that the front passenger seat needs more adjustibility as you do sit too low and the lack of rear hvac vents and no connectivity seems like a major miss and a poor way to cut costs. Are these deal breakers....probably not. The other issue is black only interior except with the Blue Lagoon you can get grey. So tired of black only interiors.
Amazing video Andrea and Zack! For a a civic hybrid wish it was an awd sedan
eAWD coming for Honda hybrids in 2026.
Hopefully Honda can produce enough of these to avoid the crazy dealer markups seen with the Toyota Prius!!
Great review and a wonderful vehicle. My biggest gripe with this is no rear vents and no rear connectivity. These are not deal breakers, but for that kind of money rear vents and connectivity should be standard. Can’t wait to see a review on the hatchback hybrid, which would be my preference. Makes me wish I had waited a year, but I do love my 2024 EX-L hatch that I bought last October.
Rear vents are standard on all but the bare-bones base trim in Sweden. As is lumbar support for driver, which seems to be unavailable in some markets. Very odd omissions imo.
I am glad i read this before watching the entire video. These are small deal breakers for my family, so this is a pass for us
@@vikvcme too
So the civic does not have an All-wheel-Drive option? Why would anybody in the North want to buy a front wheel drive small car when having to deal with winter conditions for 4 to 5 months of each year?
I have the 2022 civic sport and love it as well, but I also contemplate trading it in for the hybrid . Problem is I’m almost done paying it off .
well done guys!! A great couple, and a wonderful car! :)
I was able to carry two 80"X30" doors on Civic 2024 from Home Depot when folding the back-seats.
Thanks for creating and sharing. I like your videos in particular because you provide many exterior shots of the car "in-situ" driving on the road.
You guys have some of the best reviews. When I'm trying to find out info on one of the vehicles I'm interested in I turn to your channel. Love you guys, keep up the great reviews.
I really love you both. Always upbeat, great reviews, and can I say - couple goals?
The 2025 Honda Civic looks like an updated 1992 Honda Accord EX and it's nearly the same size. That '92 Accord was a fun car to drive, too!
Honda design was crap until current gen’s which finally brings back the conservative clean line models. The 2000’s to. 2020ish all look weird.
It's funny I felt the same about the current gen Civic's front end that it looks so much like the Honda's in the 90's, especially the 2022-2024 Civics before the 2025 facelift.
Сivic eg 8
Always nice to have a more quiet ride.
You guys nailed this video. The first thing I thought of when you said the seat height doesn’t adjust…. Totally a safety reason! The lower you sit the better the frame protects you
No it's just cost, the driver's seat has height adjust.
I test drove it and I'm sold. It's butter smooth and the torque is really nice when it accelerates from stop. Going up a steep climb is effortless. Also, I test drove the new Prius but I went with the civic.
Which is quicker?
@@XXtheJUMPoffXXCivic and it feels more nimble
Wish Honda would add an AWD option, think that would do extremely well!!
Would eat too much into their precious CUV/SUV sales
They reserve that for Acura only.
@@janoycresnova9156also would require an all new platform of a heavy retrofit to an existing platform… yall just think anything can be done easily and costs no money. Feelings … you operate only on feelings and no logic in these comments, it’s a bit maddening 😅just sayin feelings😅
Reading the comments, only you got in your feelings all because of a comment lmao @@LafemmebearMusic
True, but Honda does FWD really well! Best In that segment IMO.
Thanks Andrea and Zack, just the review I was waiting for. 👍
In my opinion, it's missing five key features.
1. Rear vents
2. Rear charge ports
3. Ventilated seats up front
4. Passenger height adjustment
5. Rear electric motor (AWD)
Other than these, it's really worth considering. I really wish it had the first three. What do you think?
I have a 2025 civic sport touring sedan and I paid under MSRP, so it can be done. NEVER pay a mark up fee!
I absolutely love this car!
Wonder where you’re at, because the Honda dealers in my area wouldn’t budge whatsoever. Meanwhile I got a Camry for less than a civic sport touring hatchback, and love it.
@@KNRS927 You got a camry for less because it's lower quality.
@@steve8803 Never knew the best selling sedan in America for the last 20+ years with its primary drivers being quality and reliability is “lower quality”. It was a midsize/full-size sedan that rode better, also felt well-built, and had more equipment than a Civic compact sedan that’s supposed to be priced less even without having to negotiate, but the dealers in my area wouldn’t budge and that kind of turned me away. And ultimately, Camry won my business.
I just got quoted today at the dealership for the white sport touring sedan in the white pearl which is $500 extra for the paint. $32.400. Is that better than what you paid?
@@adriand817 $33,300 in CA. Maybe your destination fee is lower?
The tire repair kit is a personal downer for me!! I regularly take road trips to more rural areas. Can’t rely on a can to fix a flat. The new Camry fit one in.
At least make a space-saver spare tyre an option..
Good for you. More Hondas for the rest of us. Bonus!
A Camry is a larger car segment… so I don’t understand your point ?
@@LafemmebearMusicthe point is I prefer a real spare tire not a repair kit those only work for certain types of flats. I guess you I prefer a tow truck 😂😂
Yup, that’s why I like my 23 RAV4 Hybrid, A REAL SPARE TIRE.
In answering the question about comparing the Corolla Hybrid to the Civic Hybrid, I'm surprised there was no mention of the huge disparity in power (138 hp, Corolla; 200 hp, Civic), or that the Civic Hybrid is also offered as a hatchback. The Corolla still usesToyota's previous-generation hybrid system, while the Civic Hybrid uses Honda's latest. The greatly-raised insurance premiums for a Civic have to be part of the equation, too, though.
It would be amazing if you could actually purchase a new Civic hybrid or Camry hybrid for msrp. Dealers in the Puget Sound area are adding up to $7000 in dealer added options that are not optional! Great car and video!
What about ordering one, without the "options"?
Try expanding your search…. Let those dealers go out of business, it’s 2024 not 2022
Wait a year, let them get to market, work out any first year kinks if any and pay MSRP or less.
@@tdub25depends where you live nothing available in BC and AB in Canada, i saw a camry XSE selling for 55K in vancouver
@@kenhoward3512in canada we only have 2-3 trims and if you order if someone delears may take your deposit and will see if they can sell it to someine with mark up been there done that. Had to cancel the order
Amazing look at the new Civic. They are great little cars. I had the 2022 sport touring for 2 years. It was a little difficult getting in and out of the car. My wife also had issue with the passenger seat. But we enjoyed everything thing else about it. Especially the handling. We had to up size and took the opportunity to go hybrid.
Been waiting for you test this Civic Hybrid and love it. If you both upgrade to this Civic you would save money on gas specially with the boys driving.
Thanks for the great review on this vehicle!
I'll have to dive into the technical specs at some point to form a more informed opinion on it. However, initial thoughts are quite good. I agree with you guys that as an overall package, it's very well done. I agree a height adjustment (even if manual) for the passenger seat would be nice and the larger infotainment screen with wireless capability should be standard. Looks like they nailed everything else though. I'm sure they'll sell every one they make with relative ease.
Great review! Nice car, this generation looks great! but I’d like to see at least as an option for extra money, head up display, passenger seat with full settings package, AWD version, 2nd row vents for extra money. And of course more interior color options
I've seen a lot of reviews on this lately and it is a great car to drive overall. Thing is, I have yet to see journalists highlight the high pricing for this car that puts it in Camry/Accord territory price wise. And while Honda is trying to position this as "premium" it's missing expected premium features that are available on a Chevy Trax, Kia Soul, Kia K4, or VW Jetta. I ended up getting a Camry XLE for less OTD compared to a Civic hatchback touring, as Honda dealers wouldn't budge on this car.
yes expensive and shoppers can seriously shop Camry with AWD for almost the same money. Missing vents and some other small details really misses the point. Hatch out the door is $47K YIKES
Yeah. No power lumbar support in 2024-2025 on a 33k car is borderline insulting, considering you can get it on a Chevy Trax or Kia Soul. And then no airvents is borderline insulting considering a Corolla Cross and Camry have it standard for less, and even the base CRV and Rav4 have it standard for less. And then no available ventilated rear seats when a Jetta has it available for less. I just expect it to have all those nice features if it's the most expensive in the class, and it doesn't.
It’s a really good looking car, and I mean for the price the performance and the economy. It’s a home run. I think why it is perceived as maybe a bit boring is because you see so many of them on the road. Especially from the rear. When they first came out, I remember looking at them and being like wow that looks like a Audi from a couple years ago but just like a model 3 or a model S now there are so many on the road that they could be perceived as boring.👌💯
I'm in Ontario too and I drive a 2017 Honda Civic Touring and the insurance is crazy (around 3000 annually!). Honda insurance in ON is a real issue
Real issue is super soft on crime policies which have caused an explosion in auto thefts.
You must have a sketchy accident or ticket history or you're an under 25 year old male. That is WAYYYYY too high.
It doesn’t matter what province it seems. Here in Alberta my 2020 Honda Civic Touring which only has 24,000kms I pay 2500 a year for full coverage, which is quite high but the Civic in Alberta is the #3 in stolen cars believe it or not the Honda CVR is number 1 and the F150 in number 2.
That's interesting. ON here as well. I just bought a 2017 Civic hatchback Sport Touring 2 months ago, and my insurance is only $1790 a year.
Honda's and Toyota's are EASY TO STEAL! Actually any car with a keyless fob is easy to steal.
Looks awesome! Still rocking the 2023 Civic Sport but I’d love to upgrade in the future.
I have a 2023 Civic Sport too - Mileage is not too good. Maybe next year a LX Hybrid model?
Is there Stop/ Start? My 2023 I am able to turn it off.
@@randylondon9462 Ummm, it's a hybrid. You need to think through what you just asked.
We did a side by side comparison with our 2022 Honda Civic touring, thinking we might upgrade. A few things the new model didn’t have… no phone ports in the back( why take that out. We have teens and would need to run cords from front to back. ). Some of the chrome trim around the window that looked really nice is no longer on the new touring. No fog lights. The rims look cheaper. And even though the speaker system says it’s the same, the quality of sound seemed less nuanced on the new one. I’m not sure if they down graded the speakers a little…. Maybe it’s just my imagination. However, the drive was quieter and more enthusiastic. Acceleration felt great. And the naturally aspirated 2.0 paired with the hybrid system might have better long term reliability vs the 1.5 turbo charged engine?? But for 2l/100km improved fuel economy I think I’ll stick with what I have. For a new buyer it’s a slam dunk though. Buy and enjoy. Great car!!!
Love your videos guys , 🫶🏾👍🏾
For 2025, all the Corollas are 'Hybrids'. I wish Honda made a Civic LX Hybrid too.
They will eventually if enough demand is there
It would be more expensive than a higher trim non-hybrid Civic. No one would buy it
@@6ec6YRFPTcC There is a 4K CAD difference in price between Civic LX and Sport (gas version). Honda can easily squeeze in Civic LX Hybrid at just 2K CAD more than LX gas version.
@@6ec6YRFPTcC the thing is that you could save a lot of money on gas especially when gas prices are high
I think Honda is about two years away from going straight hybrid on all of their vehicles no more exclusive gas models. He gets such amazing gas mileage, using the hybrid. The hybrid engine performs the SI engine.
First I was planning on buying either the 2018 Accord 2.0T or the 2017 Camry V6 for the 0-60 mph acceleration that I wanted. Then I thought about buying the new Prius to get the 50 mpg fuel economy that I wanted. Now I can buy the Civic Hybrid and get both the acceleration, and the fuel-economy, all in one vehicle!
I’m not surprised it has better driving dynamics. It is the underpinnings of the TypeR vehicle. Yes I know the R is enhanced.
Looking for a new vehicle, definitely leaning towards a Civic Hybrid!
I was carefully evaluating whether I wanted the Honda Civic hybrid or the Toyota Prius hybrid hatchback.
My final decision was the Prius hatchback, I thought that the Prius with all wheel drive had amazing pick up and handled great. I also like the styling of the Prius better as well. I thought it was much sportier.
Of course everybody’s opinion is different, and that’s just my opinion. I’m happy that I bought the 2024 Prius. I just got it today.
It really is amazing how good basic cars now are. This thing has a 0-60 time that would have been faster than most sports sedans 20 years ago (and the current Civic Si) and gets better mileage than a Prius of that vintage. And it drives well and has easy to use controls.
When you said quiet you got my attention. My 22 Civic Si has so much noise from the tires you can hardly hear yourself talk.
it seems better than the 10th Gen Civic...My 2025 SI has better road noise control than the 2019 Touring I had for a weekend which was bad!
Located in Toronto and just did a insurance quote. It's definitely the theft / accident rate here and not the battery. Quoted 2025 Civic Regular at 3200 and 2025 Civic Regular at 3300. It's so much! We have an Audi Q3 and this over 1000 more!
How is this compared with golf GTI in terms of driving?
I own a 2019 GTI autobann and this new civic hybrid hatchback. It’s fun for both. The GTI has a firmer ride and it’s more power but this hybrid is more comfy and it’s also fun and more fuel economical.
have to say,sounds like you are both very impressed...looks fine to me..Zachs comment on how it will age is so true...think it will age very well..my 16 year old Accord certainly has..definately will be worth a look when we are looking for a replacement vehicle...all the best.🙂
Nice review.
I ordered my boost blue hatchback and should have it mid November. In the US shop around before committing, there are dealers offering meaningful discounts
In the UK Honda trim levels are Elegance, Sport and Advance. All except Type R are hybrids and there is a CRV PHEV as well.
No new Honda sedans / saloons are available. The lineup is :
Jazz (not the old Fit) 1.5H 120 hp
HRV (not US one) 1.5H 130 hp
ANY1 (electric HRV) 204 hp
Civic (hatch hybrid only) 184hp
ZRV (US HRV) H 184hp FWD
CRV (Hybrid and PHEV) 204 hp
Type R. Only non hybrid manual !!
Good car, insane price
Regen ... it has to be useful on ice in winter I'm thinking ... let me know if so. I like when my cars gear down in a glide as it helps in winter so much.
Ouch, no satellite radio. I use that every single day.😢
That would've been part of a deal breaker for me. Also, Honda STILL, after all these years with their tiny infotainment/driver screens. I would've gone with the 2024 Toyota Camry personally. I liked the price, the design and the features more.
My issue with Honda is their princing. When you cross shop, you find that Honda doesn't offer a great value when compared to other non luxury brands. To the person who asked about the Camry vs Civic, run get the camery with no hesitations. It is not like a Civic has a BMW driving dynamics. The Camery is more roomy as well.
It's cars like these that make e.v. adoption difficult for the average driver who want a reliable, economical, decently refined daily driver. No range anxiety with excellent mpg
Nice, but it has that silly passenger seat low to the floor. Why?
Awesome review as usual!! Love the civic but Hondas prices are crazy. Why no base model. We were a Honda family with cars/power equipment and motorcycles. We had to buy a new vehicle this year and we went with a new Kona!
For the price, a '24 Accord touring makes the most sense. I do love the look (not in love with the front fascia; need to see one in person) and specs of this '25 Civic hybrid, but it's going to be spendy and hard to find one at MSRP. I feel you on the seat heat brother...
Honda power 🦾 with always the exquisite design and high build quality.
Got my sport hybrid for 28k out the door. Averaging 54mpg
Great price. What state are you in?
Honda, add height adjust for the passenger seat, (and vent both) with dual lumbar support, add rear vents with USB, and offer a heated steering wheel. Some of these and a Pano Roof are offered in Europe. For those of us who will NEVER buy an Accord, get your act together with this Civic!
You know that if they put all of that stuff on you have to pay for it, right?
If I am not mistaken the Camry isn’t that much larger than a Civic. I think even cargo capacity is less than 1 cubic foot. The Civic almost competes more with the Prius/Camry rather than Corolla/Camry. I love my Civic so I am bias but will admit you won’t go wrong with either brand. Both the hybrid systems have been around for a while.
The Camry is 8 inches longer and an inch wider. Definitely feels bigger too! Camry feels and looks like an old man car imo!
Plus you have to tell people you drive a Camry which is shameful.
How can you not have satellite radio? It makes long distance driving bearable.
Because most people use Android Auto or Apple Car play and don't want to pay for sat Rad that they won't use.
I have a 2011 civic coupe with 99,900 miles on it. I need some regular maintenance done but I am probably going to keep it till death do us part. These prices are outrageous for what used to be economy cars.
Insurance in Vancouver over 2400 per year with max discount too, but boy it drives beautifully.
Nice car for the rich, the civic used to be for regular working people not anymore.
Would you be reviewing hybrid hatchback too?
Yes, we will! Just waiting for it to arrive in Vancouver.
I'm surprised that the Corolla starts at less than the Hyundai. A coworker had a Camry hybrid and changed to the Accord hybrid because he said that the Toyota would not drive in EV mode at over 40 km/h. I've been driving the 2019 Niro and it's been great.
I like the new facelift. The styling on the Civic much better than the Accord, it has stronger lines on side profile, and the front overhang doesn't look as long.
I can't believe they didn't make it AWD. A huge part of the US gets snow.
Likely would have eaten into their precious CUV and SUV sales.
I have owned 4 hondas and love them all (currently have one), but the civic hybrid has no ventilated seats at any price (a must in the hot south). The civic hybrid interior is dour black (add some color options) and imagine its a heat sink in the summer. Come on Honda, you can do better in the civic, the accord has a white interior option I think. A caramel interior would be nice too.
Therre is a lighter color interior option with some (but not all) exterior colors.
@@roundabout1419 On the sport touring hybrid (top of the line), the interior colors available are grey or black and only black in some exterior colors. At least it was 10/8/24 when I went to build the car on their website.
I would love to see the hybrid hatchback.
Hearing there's no satellite radio is unfortunately a deal breaker. I do tons of road tripping, and cell phone service isn't 100%. That's unfortunate, because I really like the Civic hatchback.
Why on earth would they not include satellite radio , sorry Honda that’s a must have for me !
Once you drive a Honda, you don’t even cross shop a Toyota. Toyota’s are for people who want a soft ride & boring driving dynamic’s. Camry’s are popular with taxi’s or retired people. The Honda looks young & sporty. ❤
My #1 reason for looking at the new Civic is the hatchback version. For some reason your review made it appear there was no hatchback version. Don't feel bad you're not the only reviewer that missed it.
We know there is a hatchback hybrid but we haven't driven it yet. We'll do a separate review on that model when it arrives.
I test drove one last week at it was shockingly good.
Will the Honda hybrid system work if the car is parked outdoors in winter (-30 deg C) with no ability to plug in a block heater? I’ve dug into older Honda hybrid manuals and they recommended to park in a garage, and avoid parking outdoors where it can get too hot/cold (because car may not start). The manual for this car states car may not start if hybrid battery is too cold or hot. That seems like a big risk to me….
There's a STOP SALE in effect here in the USA for thousands of cars if you're planning on buying a 2025 Civic. I tried buying a 25 Sport sedan last week at a local dealer and they couldn't sell it to me because of a recall for the high-pressure fuel pump. I was pretty disappointed.
Camry is absolutely a better value for about the same dollar amount. You get similar or better fuel economy, more space and more features.
The Civic doesn’t make logical/practical sense unless you need something that is easier to park in tight spaces and don’t care about missing the rear seat HVAC vents. Other reasons to get the Civic are just subjective preferences about how it drives or looks vs the Camry.
The Civic hybrids are also missing a spare tire, but the sedan version of the Civic hybrid has enough space under the trunk floor to fit a compact spare if you are willing to spend a few hundred dollars to buy all the spare tire parts yourself.
I completely agree. I got an XLE, no options, for less OTD compared to a Civic hatchback touring as Honda dealers wouldn't budge on this car. I love this car, but I love it if it's priced like it's competitors, aka Corolla and Elantra. If hybrid sedan maxed out at 30k, and hatchback maybe 31k, I'd have gotten it in a heartbeat and not cared about negotiating. This is leaps and bounds over competitors. But it's priced like cars a class above while missing key features I expect at that price, and at that point this car made no sense for me.
I trust the hybrid system from Toyota above all else. They have been perfecting it for over 20 years.
@@eastexotic same. Now if you want to compare the civic hatchback hybrid to a Prius as they’re similar in price, now maybe that’s a better argument. But Prius basically invented this segment/technology, so even if the civic might drive better, the Prius will likely outlive it while also being very nice, good-looking, and well-received by journalists.
They're not about the same. Civic is a good $4-5k less. It drives better, more premium on the inside and there is none of that stigma associated with a Camry name.
@@janoycresnova9156 Civic absolutely isn’t $4-$5K less.
Look at the starting prices of the Civic hybrid Sport vs Camry LE hybrid.
You are extremely confused.
It looks like a perfect commuter car. I can't imagine having a 7 inch touch screen as standard equipment. A tire repair kit is a no for me. I would get the Camry instead. It's a whole different class of vehicles for $2,100 more. Camry!
This just highlights how behind the times the Si truly is. It should be the middle point between type r and this.
Behind the times? In what way? The Si is an absolute bargain and a gem in todays marketplace and I will die on that hill.
@@runningawayvagabond5876take a wild guess. I'll give you a hint: something has remained stagnant for almost 20 years. And it's no bargain anymore. It stopped being a bargain a decade ago.
@@janoycresnova9156 The Si is a BARGAIN! For it not to be there would need to be equivalent vehicles out there for less money or that offers 'more' for similar money. Please fill us all in on what those vehicles are.
Thanks for the video, sorry if I missed it but is this the first year that the Civic Hybrid is available in Canada?
If I need to down size with my 19 Odyssey this hybrid civic hatch will be my first choice. 😁
5:05 what year and how many miles does your civic have Andrea? I have the same way in the past with my car suspension settling over time and for various reason. One reason, I felt maybe was because the car suspension settled and aged
Zack and Andrea, would you trade the GTI for this?
No, we just got the GTI and it's a manual which is what we want.
I'm pretty sure they love the Manual of the GTI and the MX-5.
@@leftcoaster67 We do!
Team Motormouth, If I was providing the sports metaphor, the Civic would get a triple. In order to earn a home run it would need AWD like its main competitor. If Honda wants a grand slam rating for their hybrid sedan, they need to make rear seat headroom as generous as that in the front. 😉
Nice looking car both inside and out. But where Honda has failed is the Civic is more of a younger generation car and not having standard wireless carplay and android auto is big mistake, and lots also enjoy satellite radio as well. Not having an option for AWD against the Corolla could lose some customers, IMO. Very good review!
there’s a dongle for that.
I love the wheels they look like they have little 🚀 rocketship's 🚀 in the rims ❤🇺🇸🇨🇦😎
To purchase this in Canada, Honda Canada is charging 7.49% for 60 months.
That alone will keep vehicles on Honda lots unsold.
Why not offer a much lower rate or even 0% to help dealers and buyers buy their products.
Does the wireless charger make the phone very warm like Toyota's?
I did use the wireless charger and it definitely gets warm but not a concern like some of the others on the market.
Did you like this as well as the new Camry hybrid?
Do the Honda hybrids have a sort of camp mode like most Toyotas that you can run climate off battery with the engine coming on once in awhile to recharge the battery?
I have heard that the seats of Civic are very comfortable. Is it true? I have a CX5 and I cant drive it more than couple of hours. My sciatica kicks in killing my back.
The scenery there is fabulous. Is this Victoria or Vancouver or neither ?
I just got mine
It's the Sports model and I just think it's a better deal unless you want $4000 of toys
This is a great car, it's fun, quick (really quick), frugal, quiet and comfortable. I just did a 500km run with 5.2l/100km (+/- 45mpg)
If you want one ... Do not hesitate
Only bad thing is the size of the tires (really expensive winter tires)
I am getting mine soon too sport hybrid. As for the winter tires, you can downsize, I am using my 2019 civic 16 niche winter.
@@abelkwh I'm downsizing to 17's (my ex 2014 Accord) ... You will really enjoy your car, I'm telling you
Will there be a waiting time for this like its toyota competitors?
Its wonderful that we now have a number of great, tried and true hybrids to choose from. Thank you Honda, Toyota, & Kia/Hyundai. The US carmakers need to do better (although Ford has had a couple pretty good hybrids, but they are not badly outclassed by the Asians . Now if they will only produce enough of them and if dealers will sell them at MSRP.
Hi Zack and Andrea, what are your thoughts on the Civic Hybrid vs. Prius / Prius Prime? I realize the Prime being a PHEV has a different powertrain, but wondering how you would compare the two overall in terms of driving experience, handing etc. The Civic Hybrid will be coming out in a hatchback soon, so interested to see how they compare.
Are these really that quiet now? Road and cabin noise was always my big complaint with Hondas. Is the Accord worth the extra $?
This one is surprisingly quiet.
Any plans to review the 2025 SI?
Satellite radio sounds terrible, so omission wouldn't be an issue for me as I wouldn't listen to it anyways. Looks like a great vehicle.
In Canada, the pricing of this Civic doesn't make sense since you can get the much better Camry (imo) for the same price as indicated in the video. In terms of looks, I agree with Zack that this Civic looks boring; the hatchback improves on that a bit but neither is in the same league as something like the Camry or Prius (which you can also get at a similar price) in terms of looks. The lack of AWD, which is offered on all the Toyota hybrids, is also a definite minus, at least for Canada. I think that this Civic will cannibalize sales from the Accord more than any car from the competition since the Accord hybrid's price is even more absurd and anyone who has their heart set on a Honda hybrid sedan would probably find the Civic a better value for their money. For me, if I'm in the market for a hybrid sedan, it'll probably be a Toyota.
Civic Hybrid is 35k. Base bare bones Camry is 37k and is FWD. First AWD Camry is 40k. Like they mentioned in the video, civic is more fun to drive and is quieter.
Both the Civic and Camry are great cars! Really, you can't go wrong with either. Price wise they are close-ish - Civic Hybrid is $35,200 and Camry SE front wheel drive with the optional SE package (sunroof 18" alloys, smart key, etc) to make the equipment levels similar is $39,200.-
So $4k more gets you the bigger Camry with legendary Toyota reliability and durability or save the $4k and get the Civic which is a bit sportier and drives great and I think offers more features but I admit I didn't dig too deep into the spec sheets. If you need the room - Camry all day long. If not, the Civic will save you some dollars and still get you Honda reliability and durability and more 'stuff'.
The new Prius is even more $$$ with the most basic one starting at just over $40k but oh my does it look amazing! Never thought I'd say that about a Prius but wow did Toyota ever do a good job on that design.
We are spoilt for choice to have great options like these.