Battle Network Academy: Double Souls Red Sun

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  • @ethanethan3909
    @ethanethan3909 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Something that is not noted in this video, but is good to know, is that chips that have been set to be your regular chip cannot be used to trigger a DoubleSoul. I ran into this when I tried to set a chip for GutsSoul and the DoubleSoul option never lit up when I had it selected, but did for other chips in my hand. This happens for all the versions of 4 and 5.

    • @BlueStarSixtyFour
      @BlueStarSixtyFour  ปีที่แล้ว +21

      oh shoot i forgot about that. thanks for the info :)

    • @ethanethan3909
      @ethanethan3909 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@BlueStarSixtyFour Happy to help. :) You do amazing content.

    • @arthurmiller1603
      @arthurmiller1603 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It should. They plan to nerf chips etc so I’m assuming if it’s not addressed right away it will be eventually

  • @JeanneDGames
    @JeanneDGames ปีที่แล้ว +85

    As exclusively a PvE player, I never understood why competitive players had so much beef with Roll Soul. Yeah, the healing is annoying, but that's about it. I never knew it DELETED YOUR HAND if they landed their charge shot.

    • @bestaround3323
      @bestaround3323 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      And now you see why people hate it

    • @subjectnivleis7572
      @subjectnivleis7572 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      if they have so little skill to get hit by it than they deserve it

    • @gabrieltejada1697
      @gabrieltejada1697 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah but even Roll herself does the same exact thing to your chips when fighting her whenever she shoots the arrow at you.

    • @bestaround3323
      @bestaround3323 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@subjectnivleis7572 It is quite easy to get hit by

  • @peepsbates
    @peepsbates ปีที่แล้ว +58

    The contrast of Roll looking so sweet and innocent, then learning what her soul does.
    Really re-contextualizes that smile as "Does this look like the face of mercy?"

    • @eliaquino137
      @eliaquino137 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Roll: "Smiles innocently"😄
      Everyone else: Aw this girl wouldn't hurt a fly.😍
      Roll: "Strikes you with a Roll Arrow"😀
      Everyone else: Huh was that supposed to do something?🤔 "Looks at their now empty hand" ............................. Oh Shit!!!!!!😱
      Megaman: "Activates Roll soul and approaches menacingly" Hey everyone look what I got!😀
      Everyone else: ..................................
      RUN AWAY!!!!!!!!!!😱

    • @gabrieltejada1697
      @gabrieltejada1697 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s not that hard to dodge the arrow.

    • @lowhp_comic
      @lowhp_comic ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@gabrieltejada1697 it is if you're Area grabbed into oblivion

    • @gabrieltejada1697
      @gabrieltejada1697 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lowhp_comic there’s ways around that.

    • @LordTyph
      @LordTyph 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If we're oging that route, I'd more argue: Whe nI said 'I don't want to fight you', I should have said what I meant: 'I don't want to delete you.'

  • @flintecho3591
    @flintecho3591 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Roll Soul :"So you have chips,huh? Well what abot now?!"

  • @mior8394
    @mior8394 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Can't believe I was today's year old when I found out that Roll Soul straight up just deletes your chip in hand.
    And here I thought that Roll.EXE was going to stop at her headband things, considering her other moves when you fight her-

  • @advmx3
    @advmx3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I CAN HEAR the anger in your voice with Roll deleting the hand of chips. That on PVP must be SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

  • @DaDukeofGaming
    @DaDukeofGaming ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Red Sun Souls be like:
    Guts: Your basic chips are strong + machine gun
    Fire: minimum Grass setups for maximum firepower
    Roll: You hate me and I'm enjoying your suffering 🙂
    Wind: *Woosh*
    Thunder: Free paralysis for everyone!
    Search: You can't see me 🫥 also *shuffle shuffle*

  • @elevate07
    @elevate07 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    Anyone who uses RollSoul has zero regard for other people

    • @pawadox4958
      @pawadox4958 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      100% true. Screw the chips, I have Roll Arrow.

    • @elianrodriguez7318
      @elianrodriguez7318 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It also opens up your folder quite a bit if you can play around it with RollSoul as your focus since you won’t need as many recovery chips since the RollSoul’s passive ability to recover HP for just using ANY Chip means that you basically have 3 turns where you don’t have to worry as much about taking damage.

    • @riyujin3611
      @riyujin3611 ปีที่แล้ว

      Soul unison roll soul slot in!
      *Rockman use roll arrow and using roll souls passive* pray for your death... Navi...

    • @Marika_ER
      @Marika_ER ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@elianrodriguez7318you have no idea how much roll soul healing saved me from Duo. Her healing plus under shirt

    • @Gazing-09
      @Gazing-09 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I didn't know it was THAT broken! I've never played any version of BN4 yet.

  • @thrasher698
    @thrasher698 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Roll continuing to prove she is the most overpowered thing in the entire series

  • @Dave2kool4skool
    @Dave2kool4skool ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I played Blue Moon as a kid for Protoman Soul and never realized how broken Roll Soul is. Definitely think Red Sun is better competitively. Air soul is crazy too. My friend used to use Air soul to bring you to the front, wind rack to the back then lance. Good times

  • @TheDoomsdayzoner
    @TheDoomsdayzoner ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I guess RollSoul is kinda like Megaman's Berserk mode: "You dare to threaten my Girlfriend?! Then I'll break yo f№¢ing chip deck!"

  • @ShamankingZuty
    @ShamankingZuty ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I've been binge watching your videos. Thank you so much for all your work.

  • @mrfalzar9
    @mrfalzar9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I still feel like after Legacy Collection release, ppls will play mainly MMBN3 & 6 since they were . . . tbh the best.

  • @animeking1357
    @animeking1357 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    He did it! He's covering a game other than 6! Nice.

  • @orenji1468
    @orenji1468 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love this video it’s very informative. Everything about this video is fire and super accurate except for the part about Guts soul because guts souls punch does not break shields that’s metal soul. But my favorite soul out of all of the souls in battle net work for is definitely guts soul. Such a great vid Bro!!!

  • @MegaExE
    @MegaExE ปีที่แล้ว

    This is excellent content. Good job!

  • @Desieaglefym
    @Desieaglefym ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I can only imagine how competitive play for this game is now lol

    • @manjackson2772
      @manjackson2772 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      It's painful to watch

    • @friendlyanomaly6109
      @friendlyanomaly6109 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@manjackson2772
      Why?

    • @ginger-ham4800
      @ginger-ham4800 ปีที่แล้ว

      Non-existent lol

    • @manjackson2772
      @manjackson2772 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@friendlyanomaly6109 Actually, having watched a bit more of 4 without modcards involved, I'm softening on it a bit, it's alright to watch. With modcards it becomes a huge slog, both players have inflated health pools, ridiculous chip recovery, their B button is doing three different things, it's nuts.
      But as far as baseline gameplay, 3, 4 and 5 have a problem where they way overtuned defensive chips like barriers, invis and auras. 3 especially because of the weird ways its defensive chips work compared to later games, but 4 and 5 still let you bring way too many defenses. 5 in particular, the chips just aren't powerful enough, so fights tend to become a really frustrating slow grind of getting through all of your opponent's antidamage and antinavi and invis and barrier200 and their lifeaura so you can finally start hitting them. And god help you if you're up against a toadsoul player who's good at hiding in sea panels.

    • @mattjayce2339
      @mattjayce2339 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Blue Moon is significantly better for PvP. Red Sun is broken.

  • @chocolat-cat
    @chocolat-cat ปีที่แล้ว +5

    SearchSoul also pierces pop up 👀

  • @kahel3094
    @kahel3094 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    What is the most broken thing in megaman battle network?
    Some program advance? Wood style change with grass stage and undrsht? Beast out?
    Nope
    Answer: Rollsoul

  • @LoneWolfxX
    @LoneWolfxX 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Roll OP!

  • @Shade557
    @Shade557 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I feel so powerful with my fire soul

  • @RagnarokAvatar
    @RagnarokAvatar ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Best Soul: Search Soul, worst soul: Thunder Soul

  • @thomasalvarenga2839
    @thomasalvarenga2839 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I hope in Legacy Collection pvp they nerf Roll Soul so it only destroys the first stocked chip rather than all of them, or make its charge time impractical for spaming.

    • @BlueStarSixtyFour
      @BlueStarSixtyFour  ปีที่แล้ว +15

      get rid of chip destruction entirely imo. its such a lame mechanic in PvP

    • @supermariogamer5294
      @supermariogamer5294 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That would mean getting rid of both Rush and Beat.
      It's better to just nerf Roll Soul and the infamous Interrupt chip from 1.

    • @animeking1357
      @animeking1357 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'd rather tournaments just ban her than changing the game. I'm hoping the collection is as close to the original games as possible.

    • @pawadox4958
      @pawadox4958 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@BlueStarSixtyFour and plus, it is really good when fighting Navis or Viruses with chips on them.

    • @ginger-ham4800
      @ginger-ham4800 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're hoping *alot* from what amounts to a cashgrab collection.

  • @louievelayo4100
    @louievelayo4100 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    To anyone playing competitive, asking because strictly sticking to the story(PvE), does the Roll Arrow chip get the banhammer for the same reason as Roll Soul?

  • @TchompTeam
    @TchompTeam ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sacrifice your chips to the chip gods for the mighty ability of chip deletion

  • @noonabell5522
    @noonabell5522 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wonder if they'll nerf roll soul for the collection. Maybe it could only break the first chip your opponent has.

  • @GavinDragon
    @GavinDragon ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hay I'm working on a massive 3 part MegaMan series video part 2 is supposed to come out next month and I would love to have you on to talk about what you like about the battle network series. Thanks in advance and thanks for making these lovely teaching tools for battle network combat!

    • @BlueStarSixtyFour
      @BlueStarSixtyFour  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      id be down to answer some questions or tell some stories.
      best way to get ahold of me is on discord. hit me up there.

  • @gabrieltejada1697
    @gabrieltejada1697 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Search soul was my favorite alongside Fire soul and guts soul in Red Sun.

  • @zorancuga1236
    @zorancuga1236 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Red has serch soul nothing else to say

  • @shady9206
    @shady9206 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video but i wish the music was a bit lower

  • @jedispartancoolman
    @jedispartancoolman ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Chip delete is fine I suppose vut the whole hand?? Wtf??

  • @Coolmusicplaylist
    @Coolmusicplaylist ปีที่แล้ว +7

    There uhm *shuffle notes* .... is that right?! their whole hand gets deleted. Can't get any worse can it.... "Takes under a sec to charge" I stand corrected.

  • @CrowRider-md9mu
    @CrowRider-md9mu ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Its sweaty as hell online for me on ps5 against Roll Soul

  • @gabrielhenry7237
    @gabrielhenry7237 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was hoping you'd do double souls

  • @DMSwordsmaster
    @DMSwordsmaster 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Also a note about Guts Soul because it wasn't explicitly stated, but uh. It doesn't care if the chip dims the screen or not. Navi chips like KendoMan or VideoMan? +30. HolyDream? +30. _Bass??_ *_+30._*
    It's crazy how wide the gap in power between the two "first" souls you get. Aqua Soul gets a whole four chip lines to buff, while Guts Soul just gives a free Attack+30 to everything. (At least both of their charge shots are lame!)
    Only issue is the lack of Full Synchro double damage but uh, that rarely matters.
    Honestly a way more fair comparison is comparing Guts Soul to Metal Soul, which is similarly explosive. Though, Metal Soul can't affect screen dim chips, so... I think Guts Soul is better.
    Funny no one really pays attention to it since other souls (especially Roll "What Chips" Soul) kind of overshadow it.

  • @pokeperson1000
    @pokeperson1000 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    EDIT: Nevermind, I somehow got it to work, I think. Maybe.
    Original comment: I know this is probably a stupid question, but how fast do I have to mash to trigger the guts machine gun? I can't get it to work outside of point blank range

  • @sirwolfy9372
    @sirwolfy9372 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wish they could have added a secret command to use GutsPunch insteaad of the MachineBusterGun, but oh well... the invencibility is still good doh lool but they could let it have more abilities.
    But also, since this soul is the first, they should nerf a little rsrs
    And being able to use Magnum which is a Dimming chip that would make Gutssoul much more useful.. not broken since lat egame you wont be needing for long range attacks that takes a second to hit.

  • @mateushypolito5236
    @mateushypolito5236 ปีที่แล้ว

    Megaman battle network 4.5 have double souls i wanna know

  • @kolkagaming1234
    @kolkagaming1234 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My favourites souls are: Guts soul, Roll Soul, Torch Soul, Aqua Soul, Number Soul & Proto Soul

  • @omegahaxors3306
    @omegahaxors3306 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Roll Arrow is basically this game's FolderBack. Fine in the main game but single-handedly ruins the game's PVP.

  • @MercuryHg34
    @MercuryHg34 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Everyone is talking about how broken RollSoul is (and it is), but I don't see anyone talking about how broken SearchSoul is in both pve and pvp. I mean, you can just fix your hand for three turns straight, that's kind of insane. I pretty consistently get a giga or at least two pieces of a PA in my hand by turn 2 if not all three pieces, and I get to do that for another two turns afterward if the fight is even still happening. Not to mention this game has a good amount of crazy damage on mega chips, I legit can just fish for Godhammer and win most virus encounters easily.

  • @zak8340
    @zak8340 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    it's actually funny how unbalanced version souls in 4 are

  • @yojosenpai261
    @yojosenpai261 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Do you think Roll soul will be banned in tournaments or not?

    • @BlueStarSixtyFour
      @BlueStarSixtyFour  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      most likely, i have chip destruction banned in my events. i think chip destruction is lame.

    • @yojosenpai261
      @yojosenpai261 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@BlueStarSixtyFour yea seems way too busted especially if it’s the entire hand

  • @natpeterson5278
    @natpeterson5278 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Roll soul seems kind of broken in PVP.

  • @jamilpoindexter4033
    @jamilpoindexter4033 ปีที่แล้ว

    How I cant get Guts machine gun to work

    • @dentren48
      @dentren48 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rapidly press the shoot button

  • @Rikimarusoul9
    @Rikimarusoul9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *THEIR WHOLE HAND!?!*
    I want to laugh, but yikes.

  • @markmessi9020
    @markmessi9020 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wanted to like BN 4 so much but the weak story and giant TOURNAMENT ARC! Only to finish the game with only half the souls was so lame. I was NOT about to play this week installment 3 times over gg. I loved the battle theme tho

  • @pedroricardorodriguezfarre7936
    @pedroricardorodriguezfarre7936 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Technically, the souls you mentioned as non elemental could still be of the element of their chips, because all those chips had no weaknesses in all games except 6

  • @animeking1357
    @animeking1357 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Roll Soul's shot *checks notes* deletes your opponent's entire hand?!?!
    Roll Soul is Red Sun's apology for BN4 being such a garbage game.