The Quest to Beat Matt Turk
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Shoutouts to Matt Turk for setting the bar so high before speedruns were even really a thing. If he didn’t I promise this game would not be close to where it is today. Respect.
Sinister1 Respect. The upmost Respect. Amazing job. Just phenomenal.
Sinister1 do we know anything else about him, or is he just some mystical figure who we haven’t learned anything about since? Like has he done runs on any other games?
@@australianclaude_527 He did a ghost and goblins run apparently but said the game was unplayable and that is the only other thing I have found. Dude is a mystery.
@Sinister1 Good to see such comradery and friendship in speedrunning. I still remember when Punch-Out! Wii was being broken, all because someone tried to SkipTheTutorial and revived this community’s interest in it. You all make up the prime example of what speedrunning, both for community and mentality, should strive to be.
Beating the Turk times was unbelievably difficult, and took incredible teamwork to achieve. I'm so glad the community was able to come together and bring this game to incredible heights. Turk truly was ahead of his time with how hard he pushed the game.
Everyone gangsta till Summoning Salt goes out of cryostasis.
Ikr
FullTimeSlacker it implies that once Summoning Salt uploads, he becomes the coolest person, and everyone else is just peasants
@FullTimeSlacker It works, what do you think it means? Are you the meme-god?
@FullTimeSlacker you a cop
@FullTimeSlacker It still works because "everyone gangsta" can also imply chill, and no one's chill when they see a Summoning Salt upload. But since it's not used for the meme's original purpose, I'll give you this one.
of course the dude who held all the boxing game WRs was named "Matt"
Oh shit I didnt even think of that 🤯
Imagine if they made matt the final boss just because of matt turk
@@german_doggy7314 Oh no
Was looking for this comment
Wait... did wii sports do that on purpose?
"I beat a Matt Turk time" almost as powerful and legendary a sentence as "I just beat the TAS"
No comments?? Woah lemme. Fix that
@@rreteertet525idk, id rather have 1.5k likes and no comments than 10,000 comments and any amount of likes. just means im right.
@@transnewt not about being right or not.
did he say this in the video? if so time stamp pls
@@thecyberpirate i believe he still has the record
I love how salt doesn’t even acknowledge the fact that he has the world record time in this game
And by more than 10 in-game seconds than the LEGENDARY 2 13???? HOW?
@@cl0p38 demon
I'd love a video on that
@@ObservationofLimits His very first video is actually about the history of the Mike Tyson fight.
The TL; DR; is that, beyond insane levels of execution and luck, it's possible to down Mike Tyson enough before 1:30 that he does one more of those uppercuts. This lets you do a bunch more damage early and massively accellerates the fight.
Summoning salt just got a 14:52 like 3 days ago. Insane.
"Matt Turk only had 3 records remaining to his name."
25 MINUTES LEFT IN THE VIDEO
THE PACING
GODLIKE
These 3 records
These 3 records
These 3 records
SS is a god among men makes an hr seem like 20 min
"I just beat the TAS" is one of the most powerful sentences in any human language
I still think VAJ said it better. Well, louder at least.
"I just beat the TAS" Did you perhaps mean, "Rise Against the Machine" ?
@@Damaniel3 "I BEAT THE TAS Y'ALL!!! SECOND LAP MAN!!!"
Yes! Hell of a statement!
It’s up there with “I beat a Matt Turk time”
For those wondering, as of 2022 Summoning Salt completely dominates Mike Tyson's Punch Out holding the number 1 record in all 6 categories of the game, including blindfolded. What a Chad.
I just looked that up because I was just like "oh no fucking way"...and it turns out you're completely right. SummoningSalt does indeed hold the world record for all categories _(except Single Segment High Score, but that's for points instead of time and it has two entries anyway)_
The truth no one wants you to know is Summoning Salt is Matt Turk’s son, and he’s been training him his whole life for this monumental achievement 😉
@@ncspite8635 lore??
The Quest to beat SummoningSalt
"The quest to beat summoning salt"
For those who don’t wanna check the dates, Salt got the World Record after creating this masterpiece of a video. He documented the history of this game & then beat everyone anyways…absolute legend
He has the highest record in all 6 categories including blindfolded lol, impossible for me to understand
My mans did the biggest flex possible
No wonder he explains the technical aspect of the game so good I been rewatching this for a couple of months now
You didn't check the dates yourself, he already had the world record before creating this masterpiece of a video.
imagine if matt turk came out of nowhere and took all the records back in like a week
MK64's Matthias moment
Bonus points if he refused to post videos still. Kinda like how his super sus clap back was with no video in an era of all videos.
Mattias
He might?
@Barf Bagg nice b8 m8
salt just casually slipping in that he's the world record holder in this game Kappa
Scrimsion for glass joe?
Scrimsion Bro where?
@@Nate-bd8fg Mike Tyson
@@jaedondiesing5811 at the very end, our boy Summoning Salt holds the WR for the Mike Tyson fight
he also holds single segment WR
I love Khananaphone's reaction to beating a Matt Turk time. This guy who barely speed runs the game, grinding attempts on a fight no one wants to do because it is all luck, no skill, gets the record by a fraction of a second after hundreds of attempts, and all he says is "Hey I beat Don 2."
He's a Giga chad
"Hey, I beat Don 2 :D"
That ending hit me like a fucking truck dude. Not only do you see how even more insane improvements have been made to beat these seemingly "impossible" times, but it caps off with the creator of the fucking video itself completely blasting apart Mike Tyson by 12 in-game seconds. My jaw was on the floor.
Absolute king shit. What an emotional rollercoaster, and a fantastic video.
What makes Salt's record even more impressive is that in order to get his time, you need enough short delays to get a mid-1:25 or earlier 2nd Knockdown so Tyson can throw one uppercut in Phase 3, which saves a few seconds.
To this day, Salt is the only player on the current leaderboard to achieve this, everyone else didn't get this extra uppercut, ending in a 2:05. The limit is 1:58, but you're more likely to get a 2:00 flat
@@silverflight01he got 2:00
@@everything.editzz 2:00.61
Salt revealing he has the Mike Tyson record by 12 seconds is like when the old man is telling you an epic tale by a fire and as he walks away into the darkness you realize the story was about him
tommy karrick You may be wondering why I know so much about Michael Scarn, that's because I am Michael Scarn
he made the whole video just to flex he got the record
Liam Rea but he barely mentions him being the world record holder for tyson?
"of course i know him, he's me"
Oddly specific, *eh*
The programmers of Mike Tyson's Punch Out really deserve some credit for their great work. This game is from the 1980's.
My thoughts exactly. This ain't no simple button-smasher game. A lot of thought went into these fights....
@@Nebol And then some of them are just fucking weird with how much RNG are they have. I wonder if they just wanted to see how random they could make them and if anyone would notice lol
@@yesno7264 they had to to make fights less repetitive, coding a 1/8 chance is easier than making a bunch of new sprites, new mechanics, etc. they literally had to choose between gameplay and making the game fun or making it less random. I guess don 2 doesn’t make that much sense though.
It's such a perfect use of randomness to utterly flummox casual players and truly make the game feel alive. There are still design lessons to be learned from that 35 years later. Especially because it's the polar opposite of the conventional wisdom on "designing for speedrunners".
Just realized, this is the only Summoning Salt video that has a Speed Runner's name in it. Just goes to show how dominant Matt Turk really was.
Quest for World Record Perfection is basically Quest for Stopping Matthias from getting 32/32
@@XkinhoPT yea I am still mad at what Dan did
@@micropizza2104 Same here. What a douche move.
@@micropizza2104 I legitimately had to make a playlist of his videos with that one excluded because it upset me so much that he never got his 32 lol
@@micropizza2104 same, I just cannot watch that one again even though I have watched summoning salt video like 20 times for each one. It was one of my favorite summoning salt video when it got release and I have watched it multiple time until the incident, watching it now just make me salty lol, name check out I guess.
I love how Matt Turk managed to destroy an entire speed running community just by his skill level being way too good for anyone to actually beat him
My cynical ass kept expecting this to end up being a "it was revealed he lied/cheated" type thing. I'm so glad I was wrong. This was a fantastic video.
Jake The Hawk
SAME
@@JakeTheHawk World record is nice and all but we all know the true badge of honor is being so good people think you are cheating.
He is basically doom slayer or this game. A man feared by even the speedrun demons.
420 likes so imma not press that
There is one record that Matt Turk still holds: longest stretch to ever hold all punch-out records simultaneously
Lmao you right
@Barf Bagglol
@Barf Bagg weee, crinj
@Barf Bagg lol
@Barf Bagg lol
fun fact: about 2 years ago, when this video first came out, i watched it and was inspired. after a bit of practice, i officially became the world record holder for the blindfolded speedrun of the first don flamenco fight. it's a bit of a freebee but it's still nice to be a record holder :)
Nice!
Congrats dude that's so cool!
I may be late but lad you definitely earned it
Awesome, good job bro
Why are you lying? SummoningSalt has the record, and second place is 5 years ago.🤨
I'm just glad to know Matt Turk wasn't found to have forged his speedruns and he got his times through nothing more than years of practice and honed, unprecedented skills, thus making the times all the sweeter to have been beaten
We actually don't know that his times were legitimate though. One of his times was even impossible to achieve and had to be revised up a second.
@@dang476He described how to achieve almost all of em, right?
@@yamsdeveah, the only one he didn’t was Soda Popinski, I think. And he showed on video his Mike Tyson WR, so he probably did in fact did all of the rest legitimately, as Myke Tyson is the hardest fight in the game
@@yamsdev He could gain his knowledge from TAS and describe it from there. Again videoproof would be nice, but being a legendary players doesnt make u immune to cheating and stuff.
@@WusterWasti I dunno... were there even TAS runs back when Turk was in the scene?
imagine being so beyond cracked at a game that it takes 5 years, multiple people, and TAS strats to beat your times
This isn’t the only game Matt Turk did speedruns for. He’s not beyond cracked at this game only....
@Barf Bagg Calm down bud
@Barf Bagg
As long as it gives a legacy then I'd call it a life.
@Barf Bagg
This is clearly a personal thing, what you define as life and I define are two completely different things.
nice bait
"1/4096 chance"
Don 2 is a shiny pokemon
well, when you have the shiny charm that is
Beat me to the comment lmao
@@M3rtyville or if you're just playing gen 6 or later
Don 2 is like the RNG god, like literally jaja
I direclty thought about that when I heard 1/4096!
If all 14 slayers of Matt Turk have themselves been beaten, you should make a video about it called The Quest to Avenge Matt Turk.
Salt is the avenge of Matt turk at this point, holding both the best Mike Tyson and littarly dominating every catagory
Well then he’d just be doing a video about himself, Salt has routinely proven to be the second coming of Matt Turk, dominating multiple categories at a time, sometimes even holding every record in the game (including all individual fights, single segment playthroughs, and even blindfolded runs) at the same time.
@Angelic you’re not the first to suggest that, and they haven’t been seen in the same room at the same time...
'cept the glass joe record, everyone and their mothers have done that
@@Slender_Man_186 Salt's too humble to do that, I think. Guy had (at time of video) the WR for Tyson and didn't even acknowledge it verbally.
Ultimately, isn't this what Punch-Out is about? Taking down a seemingly insurmountable foe through your own hard work and thinking.
Matt Turk is definitely one of the punch-out of all time
I love how Summoning Salt, the current world record holder for Mike Tyson, never lets his own participation in the speedrunning community get in the way or steal the limelight away from the overall narrative of everyone coming together to push these games to their absolute limit. One of the reason why this is the number 1 channel I go to for videos about speedrunning
Update on that: A day after he finished the video, he beat the piston honda 2 world record.
Another reason: He's not an asshole. Seriously, a bizarre amount of speedrunning channels are hosted by racists and homophobes.
@Lex Bright Raven to be fair to the 40k universe that's sorta how it be. :/
@@amelialonelyfart8848 M Y F R I E N D S
Right?? Came here to say this! I just thought he made these great videos; didn't know he was a speed runner. To see him make this incredible video, giving credit to EVERYONE for their amazing hard work, and then for him to not even say his own accomplishment but instead show it on the screen for one second... That's what heroes do.
"Wow thats crazy do you know who has the Mike Tyson Record right now??"
Summoning Salt: "Well of course I know him, he's me"
Evan Gallagher “Where did you dig up the old fossil?”
(happy beeps)
I haven’t gone by the name of Matt Turk since oh before you were born
“It’s an older reference sir, but it checks out”
@@DutchTheHooligan Wtf are you doing here Dutch?
Never gonna forget that feeling when I saw Salts name with the WR of Tyson. Seriously admire someone who doesnt rub it in or anything, only mentioning it with the rest of the times. I seriously love this channel
I mean he could totally run it in and I wouldn’t be mad, it’s quite amazing what he did
it just makes him that much cooler that he chooses not to flex
Heck, he rarely refers to himself by name. His Double Dash Shortcut video has him refer to himself as "Some random dude"
For those coming here near the end of 2021: Summoning Salt has now pushed the Mike Tyson time as low as 2:00.97(!)
X_X he's just flexing at this point
that's 2 seconds short of the TAS holy smorks
He set the wr for blindfolded single segment
Jesus Christ
Plot twist: Matt Turk comes back and gets all the records back so everyone has to beat his records again
Matt Turk's fight is eternal. roll credits
Idk if that's even possible but it sounds like something he'd do.
Title Defense Matt Turk
Matt Turk's Punch-Out!! 2
This isnt even my final form
-Matt Turk, various dates
Plot twist: Summoning Salt was Matt Turk all along, now having regained his title
Wait you can be on to something he has mike Tyson runs on well mike tyson the fighter so maybe after the people beat it then he does it himself so people would not come up with the idea and delete the 2:13:00 and maybe even stole some 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
@@drewlincoln2143 i think summoning salt is too young to be Matt Turk, otherwise he wouldve been under 10 years old when he got all those records lol that would be amazing tho
@@Yahula1edits maybe he was?
What a twist!
Debunked, there's a few videos with Matt Turk speaking and he sounds nothing like Salt.
I really like that having those records broken meant Matt was vindicated as legendary and honest. His times in my book where all absolutely legitimate. I hope Wii fit's Matt boxer is honouring him
There's something poetic about the fact that the very final beacon of hope wasn't from an old TAS, it didn’t come from McHazard's TAS efforts, it came from someone from Turk's era. Someone who had been in the speedrunning scene of Punch-out in the distant past, and came back
Not only did he set the World Record, he left detailed strategies behind so the future generations could analyze his methods and improve them for better results. What a legend
indeed
@@ShivamYadav-fp1hb post more plz
Matt Turk truly understands speed running. It’s both a competition, but it’s also a community project where everyone is working together to push a game to its limits.
@@apothecurio it's truly amazing what people can achieve when they work together
Also he left one (Piston Honda 2) for them to figure out themselves :)
McHazard is seriously the back alley TAS black market that everyone goes to when they have no hope left
I always pictured him as more of the Otacon on the radio for the Solid Snake runners.
He's like the Golden Super Leaf you get in some Super Mario games when you die like a thousand times
"hey kid, you wanna buy some TAS?"
Awesome
He is their doc ;)
I think it's cool that the community honored Matt Turk's records. While I know it was common back then to not record your speedruns, other communites might not honor a record without more proof.
The fact that they took the time to look into it, and then were set on beating the best - is what makes this sport so special. Like these players could have taken an easy out, but were like - hell no, we know what the actual best time is and we are GOING TO beat it.
The speedrunning community basically made a 5 year project out of validating all of Turk's times. The title doesn't suggest it, but this is an homage to Turk. Greatest MTPO player fosho.
@@SB-pf5rc I never realized that until you pointed out, but your comment gave me chills. You are so right. I am new to the speedrunning community (only have seen videos from Summoning Salt). But man I have so much respect and admiration for what this community does. Literally incredible.
Too bad they’re all fake besides the Tyson fight
@@commcrimson9999 troll opinion
@@TheSwigstasticSwigtabuli lol how kid no video ur so delusional and a sheep ur a bot kid
This is still my favorite summoning salt video. The premise is just so good, and the story is epic. I've come back so many times over the past 2 years and Matt turk is still this mythical figure in the community.
“with help from: Matt Turk”
trust no one, not even yourself
Lmao
i used the stones to destroy the stones
you became the very thing you sought to destroy
Salt doesn’t even mention his own WR, he only shows it at the end of the video at 59:03.
it caught me off guard lol
Im Stirdu that’s king shit right there 👑
The best flexes are the humble ones.
all the years came to this. he started off with punch out for this channel and ended up breaking the Tyson record. what a champ!
@@skuarf Which video did he humble brag he only had 9 subscribers when he got mentioned at a GDQ about punch out?
21:40
When he realized he did absolutely perfectly and the rng screwed him over. You can feel the pain in his voice.
Me, a Rise Jesus Christ RPG player: first time?
RNGesus was not happy that day
Summoning Salt: Frame delays, guard manipulation, frame-perfect punches. The fastest Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! times had all been won by one man: Matt Turk. Before disappearing from the Internet, the words he spoke drove countless speedrunners out to their NES.
Matt Turk: My record times? They're yours if you want them! Beat them! I left all my strategies there on RedTom's Punch-Out!!
Summoning Salt: And so speed runners set sights on the Quest to Beat Matt Turk, in pursuit of surpassing his records. The world has truly entered a Great Speedrunning Era!
:thumbsup:
Hammer out a parody of the 4Kids rap and I'll _really_ be impressed.
@@RRVCrinale
Dreamin'! Don't give it up, Sinister!
Dreamin'! Don't give it up, Zallard!
Dreamin'! Don't give it up, Hazard!
Dreamin'!
Don't give it give it up give it up give it up give it up give it up give it up SPEEDRUN!
Here's how the story goes, we find out
'bout some records on RedTom's site, there's no doubt
The speedrunner whose eye is on it, he'll sing
I'll be the best Speedrunner, I'm gonna be the King!
Ya-yo, ya-yo, ya-yo... oh-ho...
His name is Sinister
(That's Sinister1!)
Gonna find out strategies!
He's done it blindfolded!
(How did that happen?)
Yo-ho-ho, with a lot of practice!
Ya-yo, ya-yo...
His name's Zallard, always getting better!
And a G-A-M-E-R Harzard's not shy
The Speedrunner community, comin' through, doin' their thing
Trying to defeat the former King, they are gonna beat him!
Ya-yo, ya-yo, ya-yo, oh-ho...
Punching Out for One Record!
It's the name of the game!
In the Forums!
Ya-yo, ya-yo...
Speedrun for One Record!
Arittake no yume wo kaki atsume
@@DaShoopdahoop Boom! I'm impressed.
Normal speedrunners getting a world record: aaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
khananaphone getting a world record:
hey I beat don 2
Ahh
:) horray
Time stamp?
@@cashmancool2879 yeah hate comments like these without time stamp..
@@cashmancool2879 27:42
Really great retelling of how brutally difficult it was to improve Turk's records. I'm so glad Turk pushed the game so hard so early when speedrunning as a whole was in its infancy. It really was significant to have been able to get close to any of his legendary records, let alone tie or break any of them. Shoutouts to everyone for pushing this game to the limit!
I would pin this one too if I could lol
@@SummoningSalt Totally understandable lol
Why can you not pin it?
@@cringem6660 You can't pin two comments at the same time, sadly
@@cringem6660 Because you can only pin one I assume, and he already pinned Sinister1's comment.
I believe Matt Turk should be listed as the honorary WR holder for the 4 tied records. What a complete legend.
Every other runner: OH MY GOD A BEAT THE TIME
Khananaphone: ok i beat don 2
Are the other runners Italian? Lol
“And then Matt Turk came back and beat all of the new records by 4 seconds.”
Matt Turk: "Alirght... looks like it's time for one last ride..."
"Including glass joe and donc 1"
I’d love to see him come back and take one untied
Miami Mark same
"and then todd rodgers showed up and beat all fights in one second and twingalaxies gave him all the wrs"
I feel like Matt Turk watching his records being slowly taken felt like a proud dad.
I hope so!!! Way to go Matt Turk, absolute LEGEND!!!!
Definitely. He clearly enjoyed the game enough to set such incredible records, so to then see its community grow in the sole effort to beat those times must have been awesome
@@coolnoah8183 A true dad watching his sons carry on his legacy
Matt Turk is probably time traveller and those times are records from his timeline
I can't imagine how sinister and the other guys felt. walking into an abandoned game community to find the footsteps of a giant.
it took them years and many shortcuts to imitate what he did. i read another comment talking about matt's dedication. how we watched the community die out around him and how he kept on going on his own and left detailed records for posterity.
He told everyone EXACTLY how he had done it, and it took years of effort from some of the best speedrunners on the planet to even come close.
Legendary.
The Only True God Gamer.
I love that summoning Salt explains things like TAS and frame rules just in case there is someone new watching.
He's like one of those teachers that goes over basic stuff just in case there is someone in the class that might be a little behind and might be too afraid to ask for clarification.
You are the salt of the earth.
the “summoning” salt of the earth!
no? ok ok sorry
@@_rifle_3805. . .
. . .
[chirp chirp]
. . .
[chirp chirp]
Also if you don’t know he’s a speed runner too
You ever heard about Fermat's Last Theorem? The guy wrote a note in a book's margin claiming he'd found a great proof for this math theorem but didn't have room to write it there. For hundreds of years, other mathematicians tried to find a proof, while many doubted that Fermat ever had proven it, thinking maybe he was just trolling all along. But at last, in the 1990s, someone did find a proof, and developed all kinds of innovative new techniques to do so. Maybe it never mattered whether Fermat really had a proof, maybe the important thing was how he inspired others to strive for something. When you talked about Turk's records that had no video evidence, it reminded me of that story.
I wish I could save comments on youtube, just for these interesting tidbits.
That's pretty interesting
That's literally two of the records in this video, though. No joke
Reminds me of the last guardian/secret
Plot twist: fermat already discovered group theory, elliptic curves and scheme theory etc but he was too lazy to publish it
Matt Turk was so dominant he almost killed the running community for a game because people assumed he was unbeatable
and so dominant he pushed the running community for a game somewhere it never could have gotten otherwise. the duality of being really good at punch out
Damn
I do think that Matt Turk might be me favourite runner of all time
@@mythalieon7829 him along with some other legendary people. Matthias, Andrew G, Karl and many more of course.
I don't get it but i'm sure it means something.
Matt Turk getting a few frames off theoretically perfect on some of the fights well before speedrunning was a thing was insane. Imagine all that grind with no one around to tell about it.
Convenient that he did something borderline impossible without recording it.
@@dang476 Must be pretty lucky to guess 4 perfect times in a row. "convinient" lol
@@dang476So you're suggesting he by pure accident just happened to guess on times that coincided with several TAS times and on some were very close to TAS times but not once did he use a time that was quicker than TAS. All this before these TAS times existed. So basically you choose to believe he by some mathematical miracle landed on those times and cheated instead of him just actually beating it on those times?
@@softan TAS times actually existed back then, and he actually used strategies developed by early TASers. There was a whole community around Punch Out speedrunning back then that died out. He DID have people he was sharing it with - he didn't develop all those strategies on his own, though he did come up with a number of them.
The TAS got better over time, but none of his times were beyond the TAS records even back then.
can't imagine being matt turk and seeing your old hobby records kickstarting an entire community rebirth of speedrunning. the emotions he must've felt seeing it explode back to life, solely because of how much his work inspired new kids. man.
this is potentially the most legendary humblebrag of all humblebrags, with a 59 minute buildup. you love to see it
It's not really a humblebrag; those are something else. It's amazing how SS really seems to almost avoid receiving any kind of glory for his Tyson accomplishments. In his other Tyson video he only mentioned himself once when he took the record, and that was it.
I've noticed Karl Jobst does the same thing, he did a new Goldeneye video recently and didn't even mentioned that he himself broke a few of the long standing records.
Yes! I howled laughing when I saw it.
I want a, "Quest to Beat Summoning Salt" video in the future. Lol.
I was floored once I saw that. I actually had no idea that SummoningSalt was a speed runner. I just thought he made top tier videos about speed running.
Imagine being so legendary that it takes a game's *entire community* several years to beat *most* of of your best times, and even then can only tie some of them. You can't beat Matt Turk because *that* is Matt Turk's true record.
Indeed
Reminds me of Hotarubi's Super Metroid record.
Turk's times was what motivated the entire community during the 2010's. Who knows what today's records would look like without him.
Raynman Gaming matt turk is the true definition of a major league gamer
Remember, Matt Turk himself was doing it "alone" for over half a decade between 2004 and 2009, and by "alone", this means he kept contact with a few people on non-public forum, because any public forum for speedruns of this game was straight up dead at the time. And these people were dedicated people who liked taking games apart, but not dedicated to single games the way someone like Matt Turk was. So they left one by one. He had a community but a declining one.
When people found out this and wanted to start building up a community - THERE WAS NO COMMUNITY. Everyone who arrived and faced up to Turk's challenge was doing it from the seemingly dauntless perspective of knowing absolutely no one else who ever took this game seriously. Anyone who had previously was seemingly gone, or was never much too serious in the same place, or had moved on to other games LONG before the game go to the standard pushed by Matt Turk, and had no significant input to give. And it's hard to find the motivation to do so, be the first in on the challenge, without either the validation of accomplishment that other are paying atenttion, or support of others finding out or digging up forgotten old strats to help you along with. It's hard to keep playing the same old video game, over and over, one little bit at a time, for months on end at a time, with runs and re-runs numbering in the thousands, all for a number that, if you get it, you'll be posting about it a crowd equal in impact as pissing the accomplishment in the wind, and from whom you'll be getting no more helpful hands than from your own echo.
It's not anyone that can do that. It takes someone outstanding.
It's very, VERY likely that from late 2007 onwards, Matt Turk was himself improving the few times he had left to improve completely on the lonesome, and writing guides on a long-term perspective or archiving the knowledge, rather than a short-term one of any semblance of a community. In fact, it's NOT AT ALL A COINCIDENCE that his last and less precise accomplishment, Soda Popinski, went completely undocumented on methodology: He didn't find anyone that would care to archive that knowledge. He left the community the same way it was later found: Deserted. And yet, he preserved up to that point, and kept trying to get that world record on everything till the end despite that. Because he was outstanding.
It's crazy how a single guy created such a legacy to where the video isn't "The history of punch out speedruns" it's "The Quest to Beat Matt Turk" and that such a legendary community was formed around it, full of some absolute madlads. Amazing, everyone of those people is amazing.
I get actual chills when Matt Turk's last standing record slowly fades off of the screen at 56:42.
"A TAS is-"
*takes a shot*
Erika Z lol
TAS:
Takes
A
Shot
A frame rule is like a bus
Imagine a bus-
@@krullachief669 OH SHIT HERE COMES THE BUS
All the boys: *stumped*
McHazard: Aight, lemme grab my TAS real quick
I love how TAS runs have evolved over the years to not be dirty among speed runners but a tool to be used and then you have the TAS engineering wizards that figure out and build runs... it's insane.
McHazard was like the pale nerdy guy in the movies who did the fancy hacking stuff in the background
@@NickGreyden it has never been dirty among runners only viewers that don't understand them
Why did I cry at the end when Matt Turks final record was broken. I can’t even begin to imagine how proud he must be of this community. To think his every record he set was finally beat after several years of dedication. It’s almost like, he can rest easy now.
*I just love these incredible quotes from the most powerful beings in the world 😍😍*
Dr. Manhattan: "We're all puppets, Laurie. I'm just a puppet who can see the strings."
Dormammu: "Your world is now my world, like all worlds."
Sinister1: "I just beat the motherfuckin' TAS."
Does anyone have the timestamp for that last one?
@@seansquiers6506 It's around the 16 minute mark.
@@seansquiers6506 15:58
These aren’t videos.
*_These are documentaries._*
yeah, they are.
and awesome documentaries, to put it midly
This one's a movie
These aren’t just documentaries.
These are a way of life!
documentaries are videos
Yes this videos are nicely edited, not like other youtubers that just show generic gameplay over audio
THIS DUDE REALLY MADE AN HOUR LONG VIDEO TO FLEX THAT HE HAD MIKE TYSON WR
pretty sure he also has full game wr on summoning alt
@@tubbyidk1474 let alone i think 4 extra records. havent checked today.
And then he hardly even flexes
It's on the screen for like half a second - the video goes for almost an hour - it's about the most humble, low-key flex in history.
He got a 2:01!!! HOW!!!!
59:06
You do not understand how hard this hit me.
I’m crying. Like. I don’t know why??
But something about it just… is so cool. The way to told this story, and how cool it must be to have your name there, standing over Mike himself at the very end.
Just hit so hard.
Good job Salt.
Like a listening to an man telling a tale then he leaves only to find a mural of the legend being the man...
Gay
These videos are perfect insomnia cures.
I fall asleep to one of your vids almost every night. (Of course I actually watch them when a new one comes out but the old ones are a perfect comfort soundtrack)
The voiceover, the bgm, the fact that it’s just interesting enough to keep my mind off the anxieties of the day while being comforting and sensical enough to let me sleep…I love everything about all these vids. Thanks for making them.
Matt Turk is like those lore characters in epic fantasy where the characters have to dig up old lore and shit and figure out techniques that he already knew about years ago. Mad.
Lmao he is the Gaunter O Dimm of speedrunning
Okay but we shouldnt forget about mchazard who is the only one who knows about the elder magic even if he cant master it himself
the legend 27
What's crazy is he shows up elsewhere too. Like cynthia from pokemon
if anyone’s ever read Enders game that’s exactly what mazer rackham is like
The fact that salt doesn't even mention his world record for Mike Tyson for the entire video until 59:05, right at the end, with nothing but a subtle line of text speaks volumes to his humility. He'll talk the whole video about how every other person mentioned is an amazing player, and how brutal the luck and execution is for all of them, then he gives himself 3 seconds of text, not even spoken words, at the very end, knowing a portion of people watching have already clicked off, and those who haven't might not even notice it's him. Him regarding himself as really "just another name" in the punch out scene gives me a whole lot of respect for him. Although I have to imagine a humble, yet proud grin came across his face while typing that ending.
You can also check Karl Jobst. He has the same vibe regarding GoldenEye.
It’s even more exemplified by how far his record is from Turk’s original time
@@forgiveman so many times, Karl is like "oh yeah I also hold that record," and I'm just like, that would be one of the first things I'd mention! I very much enjoy both these guys.
@@forgiveman yea summoning salt and Karl are those youtubers that I always get excited when a video comes out, I love both of their stuff!
@@forgiveman you absolute legend
I would love to see Matt Turk re emerge from the shadows and retake all of his records, would be the greatest villain arc ever
Or maybe SummoningSalt IS Matt Turk. And the reason why he never uploaded video was because he was also a teenager. (I asked him lol) (also the e-mail contains a rickroll).
@@fireyfan25 💀
The moment starting from 49:10 where it just goes "nobody had any idea how Turk did it" gives me chills. He was so far ahead of everyone that he was faster than what was thought to be even *theoretically possible*, for years. An absolute domination.
This is one of my favorite videos on all of TH-cam. Thank you, Summoning Salt. It's a tour de force.
Summoning Salt: Spends 8 minutes recounting how hard it was for anyone to beat Mike Tyson in under 2:13
Also Summoning Salt: Doesn't verbally acknowledge that he beat Myke Tyson in 2:05
To be fair, he did make an entire video on the subject, his first video in fact.
Definitely an impressive show of restraint though.
He also just got a record for beating Piston Honda 2 in 40.61
The end of his video states he beat Mike Tyson in 2:01
@@tom_ad9343 Yeah, it's kind of funny, because his old Tyson WR progression video was made when he was the record holder with an almost as good as possible time, but he noted at the end that it could be even better... and now it is, and he holds the WR by like 5 seconds. Kind of ridiculous. It's funny that the Tyson fight was so ridiculously hard, and yet was one of the fights that had the most space for improvement even still.
The room for improvement is because it’s so hard.
Math: so there’s a 1 in 1.6 million chance you get the perfect cycle
Punch out community: so what you’re saying is there’s a chance?
Or as Mando would say: I like those odds
I Think it was 6,7
It was 1 in 6,700,000 not 1 in 1,600,000
Mysterious Gamer goddamn
I know what I’m doing during quarantine.
I've fallen asleep so many times to this video. Matt Turk is so legendary he knocks me out in record times.
Motivated to start speed running under the name MyMeat just to see a video call "Quest to beat MyMeat" lol
We need somebody named “MyWife” for a “Quest to beat MyWife”
Mike Tyson's Punch Out is for the cool kids
Matt Turk's Punch Out is for champions
I wanna play Matt Turk’s Punch-Out now
In Matt Turk's Punch Out you must defeat every opponent by either tying or beating Matt's times. Failure to do so will result in a loss. There is no game over system, as that would be too unfair. You can also save after beating every fight, and can re-match opponents that you have previously beaten in a time attack mode. After beating Mike Tyson, the game will autosave without asking you (trust me, you will need it). You will face one more fight, Matt Turk himself.
He will spend the first 42 seconds taunting you and throwing no punches unless provoked (a reference to the first two records that others have beaten) his counter punches are insanely fast and do massive damage. If you manage to dodge them, you will be able to hit back, but damage will be minimum and he will recover quickly. Assuming that Matt has landed a hit on you, he will do a fast variation of Mac's iconic star punch at the 42 second mark. The wind up will be much like Sandman's Dreamland Express, a quick flash before an insanely fast punch that is an instant knock down. Dodging this leaves him vulnerable to 5 punches, but that is it. After this, it will be rapid combos of straights and uppercuts that all do lots of damage. His goal is to ko you 3 times as fast as possable. You can counter his punches, but you won't be able to do a lot of damage. Star punches also won't work on him, he will quickly dodge them and respond with a fast counter that is undodgeable.
If you somehow survive round one, things get a little bit more extreme and Matt's gimicks will come in to effect. Matt will have 3 star punches that he can unleash at random. He will also use fake punches (in a reference to guard manipulation) in order to make you dodge or block accidently, which he will quickly punish you for. These fake outs will have a different sound effect, so you will be able to get used to them with practice. You better make sure that you are good at speedrunning and have taken him down before the end of this round, because Matt will punish you for it in round 3
Round 3 has Matt using faster variations of all the major gimick attacks from previous boxers. The Honda Rush, Tiger's Tornado Attack (I forget the name), The Bull Charge, The Dreamland Express, The Super Macho Spin, Tyson's 90 seconds of OHKO uppercutts, and finally, a Star Punch. If you survive and properly counter attack all of those, Matt will finally go down and not get back up, regardless of how much health he had left or how few times you knocked him down.
Man, Matt Turk’s punch out is a classic!
Someone, I don't care who (preferably Matt possibly). Make that Rom Hack happen.
@@Raindrop_2401 I've been saving this pre-fight message for a while...
"This is going to be a painful fight..."
Originally intended for a silly idea for another game.
There's no way I'm the only one who thinks Matt Turk sounds like it could be a name of an enemy boxer, right?
Lmao I thought Matt Turk was an impossible boxer to beat in the game when I first saw the video not a speed runner
Or an NFL punter with a long career.
ah wii sports reference
@@jasperzz2859 Not what I was going for, but does work.
Matt Turk => MT => Mike Tyson
That twist ending when he showed off the Mike Tyson WR... man is absolutely humble for not mentioning this even one time during the main video. Really stuck to the script and focused entirely on the fall of Matt Turk's records.
I keep coming back to this video when falling asleep, I must have watched it 100+ times now and never thought to comment. Thanks Salt for the great video!
The same for me :)
"It ain't about gettin good RNG. It's about gettin bad RNG, and getting back up"
-Rocky Balboa (probably)
@Barf Bagg is this a nice comment I see? Wow.
@Barf Bagg Wow. A comment where you don't attack anyone.
@Barf Bagg okay
inspiring quote
Hey can I use this
Ok but can we respect what kind of god Matt Turk has to be to have “Turk times” become a term in speed running
This "Matt Turk" is bullshit.
@@drugsilove2364 Elaborate, please.
He won’t, he’s just going around being salty and copypasting the same thing over and over.
@@ketsupo I see
@@drugsilove2364 well all of his records were eventually broken or tiee
This is an amazing sort of story that I don't imagine being possible in more modern ages of live streaming games; to find a completely dormant speedrunning community with a list of records and there being no immediate clues how such times were reached leaves quite the mystery.
How the hell did this make me get all teary
Edit: and then I watched the end and saw SummoningSalt got the WR for Tyson and now I am crying, I hate this, I'm happy and miserable
"Game F-A-Qs"
No, salt. Nothing will stop me from saying GameFacks
i always read FAQ as fuckyou
@@waifu_png_pl6854 same
@@waifu_png_pl6854 lol
Game Frequently Asked Questions. The Chaotic Neutral option.
@@waifu_png_pl6854 same lmao
Plot twist: "Matt Turk" is actually SummoningSalt, and SummoningSalt is just Matt Turk waxing about the old days when he was REALLY into 'Mike Tyson's Punch Out' and has come out of retirement to reclaim his prized Mike Tyson record.
NANI?!?!?
@@raphaelsanchez7386 Drip.
Half of that contradicts the other half.
@Dom LS1 thats why he has almost 400 likes, cause his humour is so lost xd. Ure lost m8
TheManiac he wasn’t responding to OP. He was responding to a different comment which has since been taken down.
Had to watch this again. It's such a powerful narrative the way you put it together here that it had me choked up every time I watched it.
this story genuinely feels like one piece: the man who achieved it all inspiring everyone else to try their best and overcome him.
I like to think that Matt Turk is so proud of everyone who tried to defeat him
This
I'm sure he is
Hell he even collabarated with them
Matt Turk: Are ya winnin son?
@Seanny how do you know that?
“What do you do as a hobby?”
Summoning Salt: “Beat up Mike Tyson”
😂
Also, making hour-long documentaries to brag about how fast he can beat up Mike Tyson ;)
@@sybrwookie Lol - I know what you mean. Truth is he didn't brag once. Just more of a nice wink at the end. That is as humble a brag as you can get :-D If anything, his video paid tribute to all those other players.
When did he beat up Mike Tyson? It was zallard1 and sinister1.
Aquatic Sans 59:06
mad respect to matt turk for giving out his strategies and allowing the people to beat his scores
Imagine being such a giga chad that after holding THE ENTIRETY of punchout speedruns that once someone actually managed to beat one you go "uh think again kiddo" and beat theirs in return
I love how all these people came together to collectively beat Matt, but can we just sit down and appreciate for a moment how in the fuck Matt found all these strats in the first place?
and the fact that, even after FIVE YEARS of waiting for his record to be broken he actually came back and beat it again
I'm mostly surprised that his records were all universally believed to be true even without any video proof.
@@dahSweep Well he gave detailed descriptions of the methods he used for most of the fights. Besides nobody recorded runs back then for pretty much any game you look at. So yeah his runs were definitely real.
@@xxhobocatxx2869 Also I believe he has done speedruns of other games like Contra with video proof, so he's generally accepted as a reliable runner.
@@xxhobocatxx2869 he literally said he came back and beat someone who tied him but still didn’t record it lmfao imagine being this gullible
Bro who that guy "SummoningSalt" with that WR
learn more about him here:
th-cam.com/video/bt1DFNSNbRk/w-d-xo.html
He also just got a record for beating Piston Honda 2 in 40.61
@@FraserSouris holy shit did he actually
@@drxshock6957 no it was all a joke
DrXshock he lowered it again to a 40.25 two days ago, go on his ‘summoning alt’ yt account to see it on TH-cam
I keep coming back to this one. Your expertise in the game and the interesting history makes this a very engaging video.
this is still my favorite vid on this channel. the presentation, the stakes, the expert explaining of all the strats. its so satisfying to see people get closer and closer to beating matt turk, and the final montage of all the best moments leading up to the final victory is amazing. this is a masterpiece
When you realize he made this whole video to flex his Tyson record (jk, it was great)
His first video like this was the whole Mike Tyson record so yeah.... if you watched his first vid you should know hes the record holder
Ron the Auraknight Ah, I thought I had watched most of his old stuff (started after I found him after the 4-2 video and worked back) but I guess I missed the real old punch out stuff. Now I have a new vid to watch!
I did remember that he was the record holder in his original video, but I didn't know if he still held it as of this video.
He made this whole channel just for this moment. hehe
@Egavans
His Tyson record won’t be beaten
Salt can say "a tool assisted speedrun, or 'TAS'" a thousand times and I'll still enjoy learning about it.
I like your beard
@@psychiron ... I have no words.
@@aidyplays1013 it is a nice beard
@@house_cocoon I agree, it's a good beard!
J.J. Shank a very nice beard
I've watched each of your videos probably ten times, some more, but this one has to have one of my favourite endings. It was so delightfully surprising seeing for the first time the final name appear beside the Tyson record.
Thank you for making these videos.
Just got recommended this and I gotta say, one of the best little mini docs I've watched outside of Secret Base and the history of the Seattle Mariners. Love it! You've got a new subscriber :)
Salt revealing he has the record on Tyson at the end is such a huge flex.
Edit: for anyone complaining about spoilers, you came to the comments, a place to discuss the video. Cry me a river.
The best flex is a subtle one
Still has it to this day
@Barf Bagg he holds 3/4 W/R for this game alone but aight
@Barf Bagg why do hate salt and speedrunners so much?
@@dopevader3673 he’s obviously baiting
Dude, Matt Turk is basically Matt from Wii Sports irl
Yes. Next thing you know on super punch out matt turk will grind it out then we will need zallard and sinister and mchazard on the scene
@Tyranno56 Dude I actually beat Matt once in Wii Sports!
Was epic, I felt like Muhammad Ali afterwards!
I honestly think that Matt from wii sports was based off of Matt Turk
@@demonatic7258 That's what I was thinking!
thats his last name
I can express how perfect this video and your content is. I just fell in love with all of these
Dude had a group of ppl helping him, Turk did all this on his own when NO ONE else was speed running, and the records lasted almost a decade. Turk is a legend first and foremost.