This is a reupload - I’m sorry for any confusion. It is the same as my last Mega Man 2 video, but with all profanity censored. In case you haven’t heard what happened, my last video was age-restricted: th-cam.com/video/qs_7crdHpbo/w-d-xo.html. I cannot disagree more with TH-cam’s ruling on this. Original pinned comment: Thanks to the following people for help with research! Be sure to check their channels out: cyghfer: www.twitch.tv/cyghfer Shinryuu: th-cam.com/users/MrSHNRYUU shoka: www.twitch.tv/shokashoka warmCabin: th-cam.com/channels/qph5T9ZBmtdXCTvg-kgEzg.html sinister1: www.twitch.tv/sinister1 coolkid: www.twitch.tv/coolkid And check out the Mega Man 2 leaderboards to keep up with other top runners - megamanleaderboards.net/index.php?game=2
Nope never, he will always either have the record or be chasing the record. He's not giving up on that. Glad to see he took it back just shortly after this video.
Salt you set the standard for high quality video game content, and this is your best documentary yet. It needs to get on trending again so more people can see it!
This is such a shame that this documentary got age restricted so i will watch this without skipping any parts of this master piece. Summoning Salt is a legend keep it up man!
it's crazy how whenever youtube gets a creator who makes genuinely amazing, high effort, and consistent content with something for everyone they treat them like garbage while allowing actual dangerous and obscene content fly every day
Your first name tells me you have Irish connections. Your surname...Greek? That's probably wrong, apologies. In any case I think the issue is that Google is an American company, bowing to American puritanical language standards. In Europe (including Ireland), coarse language isn't such a big deal. Both Ireland and the UK allow most "vulgar" language after 9pm on TV (C U Next Tuesday being an occasional exception for some random reason). You can't even say "shit" on network TV in the US. You can say it on cable but heaven help you if you even think about saying "fuck" if you're not on a premium adult channel.
TH-cam has frequently promoted to the top known obvious scam videos that have criminals stealing money from victims and they do nothing to stop them. Is anyone surprised they can't anything BUT drop the ball?
Imagine making this video, spending hours writing and editing it, going thru all the BS around the age restriction, and then Cyghfer coming along and beating the record shortly after the video is released.
Happens with a lot of his vids actually. Seen plenty of comments over his vids of people beating record within a week of the related vid dropping. Wouldn't be surprised if it's because summoning salt doing research and talking to runners reignites some fervor to get back to the grind
If anything these videos have incredible rewatch value because you see how much work goes into foreshadowing and setting up of these incredible storylines. 11/10
I love the ending describing the whereabouts of the speedrunners. It really tied the whole thing together with affirmation for what could be coming in a future, as well as providing a bondful feel for the speedrunners and not just looking at them as a name achieving a number. I look forward to more like this, and hopefully next time the video gets its well deserved praise.
i cannot overstate how amazing this storytelling is. the chase for the record bit with cypher felt like a legit documentary, it felt like the most important moment in history, and it was all about one person playing a game 15 seconds faster. well done. this is a masterpiece
The way you can make someone who's never even played megaman to care so much about the record that I cheered loudly when cyghfer finally got it is truly a testament to your talent! Sorry you had to reupload this!
I don't think youtube could possibly have their heads farther up their asses but at least re-uploading is a thing and the interaction (may) help the algorithm pick this one back up. Never do I really care about the "like, comment, subscribe" mentality unless I really like a channel, but this would be a nice way to toss a wrench into the system and support one of the best of the best on YT
I think Cyghfer's relation of his Chase the Record run is unfathomably insightful. State of mind is ridiculously important. On that day, he was fully at peace with the possibility of failure but also fully believed he had the ability required to succeed. That's the state of mind you need to perform at your fullest potential, and it's all but impossible to call upon it on demand. It's blood-boilingly tragic that this is the video to get fucked by arbitrary profanity rules because this is a masterpiece.
TechNickL: It truly represents the way to live life in general: let go of the outcome. It allows you to do your best, be satisfied with your effort/performance whether you win or lose, and if you do win, you can actually just enjoy it instead of - compared to when you are attached to the outcome - just worrying about losing your title or experiencing some setback, which is bound to happen, but your mental state decides how to react to it. Ironically you achieve more when you are more at peace with (not necessarily indifferent to, but accepting of) the potential outcomes. Of course you still have a serious chance of failure, but it is saying something that it improves, not worsens, when you let go of the outcome. Related to this is that it reminds me of how people who do things chiefly for the accolades and trophies and such, are not the ones who usually get them, but rather it's the people who don't care so much about those things who end up getting them because their state of mind allowed them to perform better, and the awards flow naturally, whether they were particularly wanted or not. I would argue that the point of awards is more about the community _wanting_ to honor people, rather than satisfying people's wants to be honored. The distinction is clear when oftentimes, the person the community is dying to honor, often seems indifferent to the honor, or even doesn't want the credit sometimes, and that is a sign that the person very much internally understands what they achieved, and no missing of a title can take that away from them. They appreciate the essence of what they achieved, not the recognition of it. This contrasts with other players who might also play at a very high level, but may still be attached to the outcome too much, and so they haven't fully let loose on their potential to become the very best. The very best are exceptional to the rest of the great players, by definition, and it usually reflects not only exceptional technical traits, but also mental and emotional ones. I don't intend to speak in absolutes of course, but I think the trend is that the people who deserve the honor tend to be the ones who don't particularly want/need the credit. Of course this mindset needs to come up organically (by being mentally healthy, etc.), and not merely be fabricated in order to virtue-signal or something. The people with this genuine mindset are not only not in need of credit for their technical achievement, but not in need of credit even for having the mindset itself by those such as myself who notice it in them. The reason I honor it is not because these people need it but because I want to do it, and because they might like to know the people they have inspired by it, and be happy for those people, rather than be validated by those people (as great achievers already found ways to find their own internal validation to get where they are today, and it rubs off on people when they see the fruits of that mindset). It's sort of like laughing: genuine laughter is when we are trying to hold in our laughter but just can't, because the situation takes control of us (in a positive way). We laugh at these people whether they want us to laugh or not. I feel like true admiration can ooze out in this same kind of way as laughter. Where it's not that we honor out of some perceived duty, but when the "honor" feels like genuine enjoyment, to the point where, if someone told us not to honor them, we wouldn't feel relief, but instead would actually have trouble containing the honor we wanted to give them :)
Reminds me of when I was younger and I had come close but never broke the 5:00 mark for a mile. I still remember I had two bran muffins and some regular ass yogurt for breakfast. By game time it was just there. No jitters, just calm. I didn't just do it, I crushed it. I ran down that mile in 4:38 I remember my teacher just kept saying "not fast enough" every lap. I was coughing up blood by the time I was done. It was like a crazy unlock moment for "what the mind wills the body does." I did wild shit for the next two decades, swimming in freezing rivers, crawling through hundreds of meters of drainage pipe under stadium parking lots that was barely wider than my shoulders, shit at one point I got into an argument with my psychotic mother and promptly hiked off to live in the Appalachians for almost 2 years. Working from 0330 to 2230, getting 3 hours of sleep every night. Taking that opportunity to attempt an iron man schedule (sleep 15 minutes every 6 hours). It was wild. But I had no semblance of sanity and now I'm just over 40 and my body is ruined. Sometimes I can't convince myself to sit down and play some video games for an hour.
I like that you talk about the state of mind thing. And I suddenly wonder, if there is something to why someone breaking a long standing record is often then beaten themselves soon after. The longer a record stands, the more legendary it is, the more likely someone is to be tense about it. Even though beating the time that beat that time is logically harder, there is that element of "he just did it, so I think I can too"
yeah, it's great how he also explains how the big tricks work in such a way that even those who've never even seen the game can understand what's going on
Every time Summoning Salt posts a video, I tell myself that It's worth paying the internet today. His content is unrivaled and unique with a great storytelling. Keep it up!
I don't know how you do it. You basically count down from one number to another but it's so compelling, so engaging, so watchable. I'm hooked from start to finish and your use of music and editing to make things land give me goose bumps every time. Please never stop making these, Thank you.
It’s not about the numbers. It’s about the stories we tell. It’s how people worked on this. How they found themselves becoming famous over a few seconds. Even without the speedrun, the passion is what makes this important.
I hope that what can only be called a "travesty of a need" to reupload this will prove to make this video, and you, more popular, Salt. The History of World Records series is the only one on TH-cam that consistently makes me stop what I'm doing to watch it instead. You give so much more than we could ask for, and deserve far better than you've received.
I can't imagine how exhausting this whole age-restriction ordeal has been for you. To pour your heart & soul into a project for so long, hoping that all of your hard work is properly rewarded, only to be taken for a massive emotional (and financial) roller-coaster ride...it's so unfair. I hope you're doing okay, SS. 💙 Thank you for all the hard work you put in.
If there's a silver lining to the awful age restriction situation, it's that I, and hopefully more people like me, found your content through hearing about it. I watched because I like speedrunning and wanted to give the video support, but now I'm sticking around because wow, you're an amazing documentary maker! This had me as emotionally invested as a movie. Well done! 👏
I heard it happened, so I didn't watch yet, so I could watch now. Though I was expecting him just to go in and edit the original video with TH-cam's editor, blanking out the audio when the profanity struck. I guess that wasn't an option for some reason. (Maybe a limited number of edits, maybe because TH-cam wouldn't reverse their decision anyway.)
@@ZipplyZane The thing is, even in the time, the age restricton was lifted for a short period, the video got nearly zero views via recommendations. Regarding the algorithm, the video was dead. So even if it would been possible to edit the part out through the editor and TH-cam lifts the restriction once again, it wouldn't really fix the problem of way too few impressions.
I don't usually comment on your videos, but I want to do everything I can to help this one out. It's a shame what happened to the original, because you deserve nothing but success with all of the time, effort, and passion you put into your videos.
Absolutely. Summoning Salt makes great videos, I love the sports documentary vibe and the gravitas it lends to speedrunning and I want the channel to keep growing, sooo... comment, comment, comment!
@@saschaberger3212 who cares? they left one simple comment because they thought the video was well-made and deserved support. there's no need to care if your comment isn't recognized because you shouldn't expect anything in return, esp. from someone you don't know
I don’t know the creator or care if he replies to my comments, but I do know it is wrong for TH-cam to steal ad revenue from people for some apparently obscure political purposes.
@@saschaberger3212 Because, like they said, they want to help this video out, they're not seeking recognition. You sound like you are, so here it is: you exist.
Making sure I do my part to push this one on the algorithm. So sorry this situation happened to you salt, of all the creators on this platform why you were targeted I don’t understand. Don’t let this hiccup knock you down, you never stop improving and I always look forward to your next uploads :)
You're a fantastic content creator man, I'm sorry you have to suffer TH-cam's terrible bureaucracy. This video definitely deserves the #1 trending spot.
Cyghfer truly does feel like a speedrunning hero. Whether or not he ever pulls off his perfect run, he's still going to be immortalized as a legend of Mega Man 2
I’m happy to do my part to get this masterpiece seen by the masses. You have my full support! Keep making great stuff! Sorry that this happened to you.
i stumbled upon your channel while i was in the mental hospital. your videos honestly helped me through some tough times, now i usually listen to them to help me fall asleep. thank you summoning salt, for all your hard work!
I've never been big on speedrunning, I didnt own my own nintendo console until 2018 when I bought a gamecube, and Ive never played the classic games you constantly track speedruns for. But over the last year or so I've become engrossed. Contra, Wii Sports, Punch Out, etc. Games I either hadn't heard of, or never realized there was a speedrunning community for it. The hours upon hours watching record breaking runs, comebacks, strategies, your videos are masterpieces of knowledge and video game history. Let's get this video back to trending because you deserve it after all the hard work you put in on everything you give us ❤️ Thank you Salt, for being an amazing creator!
Can't say I've ever been interested in Mega Man, but just listening to the way you craft + deliver the story of all these speedrunners, plus the way you explain the games + techniques so simply, makes for a hugely engaging vid.
I’m definitely going to give this video a re-watch just so I can support you, man! Once again, I’m so sorry that you had to go through this whole situation but hopefully this video will get even more attention and support than the original upload. Thank you for all that you do!
Why do all these video seem so epic. I don't even play video games yet I find myself going on these journey into these world record battles. The music...the editing...so good! Keep them coming
It’s incredibly upsetting it had to come to this. With all the recent events, TH-cam needs to be more clear with their rules. Absolutely ridiculous. Keep up the good work Summoning Salt, we will always support you!
@@toby2581 And it shouldn’t be that way. TH-cam only succeeds when it’s creators succeed so why make it difficult for creators to succeed with vague rules and absurd reasons to age restrict videos. It isn’t that difficult to set and enforce specific rules, instead of going back and forth when deciding if a video should be age restricted. I completely understand that videos need to be “advertiser friendly” but the grounds on which to classify a video as “advertiser friendly” shouldn’t vary on every video.
Well Actually…… Hearing a few swear words is causing severe degradation in our society. Most don’t know about it as the biased media won’t cover it. Thankfully TH-cam is accurately censoring these destructive videos. More of this will get our society back on track. Now I’m off to watch the un-age-restricted, family friendly AVGN episodes.
Cyghfer's tenacity is incredibly admirable. I couldn't imagine being in his shoes and pursuing the record, that's so intense! What a crazy race to the top with coolkid, what a show!!
Well Actually…… Hearing a few swear words is causing severe degradation in our society. Most don’t know about it as the biased media won’t cover it. Thankfully TH-cam is accurately censoring these destructive videos. More of this will get our society back on track. Now I’m off to watch the un-age-restricted, family friendly AVGN episodes.
Something about cypher's comeback literally brought tears to my eyes. It's a metaphor for the human spirit and how people fight uphill battles and how sometimes we can get unexpected grace
@@1-800-nonyaMy god I have seen your responses about his record from 2 years to 2 weeks ago, lmao do you just sit there & refresh these comments, waiting to exclaim loudly that "HE HAS THE RECORD STILL"? 😅
Man i could listen to you talk about ANYTHING. Your videos just hit me in this spot. The way you just put the whole package together with editing. Your comfortable nature while speaking. The build up. It is sublime. I hope you never stop making videos. They are the best content online imho.
I’ve found this 9 months after upload and to my surprise, cyghfer has once again taken the record! As of 7/10/23 he still holds number one with 26:32.4 and coolkid has number 2 at 26:34.4. Cyghfer has held this record since 11/20/22.
Let’s try and get this video promoted as much as possible, I feel bad for summoning salt and he deserves to get recognition, especially for how much work he put into this video, and how good it turned out.
Interacting for the algo. Incredible quality as always. Thanks for the unending dedication to letting the world know just how fun and impressive speedrunning can be
I don't personally know cyghper, but, watching him work so hard to get beaten in such a short time almost made me cry. Despite that, he didn't give up, he tried again and again. Everytime we thought he was gone, he came back. When we thought the record couldn't be beaten, he proved us wrong. I'm sure his determination has and will continue to inspire many people. What a legend.
So many of Summoning Salt's vids have moments moving me nearly to tears. Maybe that's why this one was age restricted. The TH-cam mods, through tears, were like.. we have to protect the children.. 😭 this is too much
For me, he's the true hero of this story. To clinch out a WR in a live competition at such high level is simply unheard of. Yet, he did it. I wish him all the best for his tech career and his future WR attempts!
Really glad to see it re-uploaded, and here's hoping that the algorithm pushes it to recommendation lists the way that it should. This is an amazing piece of content, and it deserves every bit of recognition that it gets. Cheers to you Salt.
What's insane to me is you got 600k+ views on a re-upload. You've grown so much as a channel since I first started watching you. Keep it up, you're one of TH-cam's secret golden pillars. The entire reason why speedrunning has any popularity on the platform.
I’ll still rewatch your content, you work so hard and more people need to see this. Your channel was one of the few recommendations that I was happy to subscribe to. Keep up the awesome work.
I'm making this comment merely for the algorithm, but I want to also want to say thank you for making these highly entertaining videos about world records of video games, and also to say that you didn't deserve that age restriction.
@@Kaygu_ I just found that out right now when I looked at the current records randomly. Cygpher is a beast, and I was rooting for him since watching this, so I'm glad he took the record back. I think he will either have the record or be trying to get it back. He's a machine at this game.
Shoutout to Summoning Salt for ensuring there's a flash warning during videos. I'm mildly photosensitive, so coming in prepared is always needed. This has so much flashing but it's still my favorite video. Thanks for the consideration and warnings every time, man.
@@memesong21 ...I'm not sure? I'm assuming you're talking about Zelda, but I don't have a copy to look at. Let me nerd out and see if that answers your question. (Excuse my word avalanche, I'm not very good at short and sweet.) So, caveats first: I'm no expert. I made art and did design for some cheap electronic toys and Plug-and-Play video games (those $20 straight-to-the-clearance-shelf themed joysticks with like 4 games on them circa 2010ish) that used the cheapest and thus smallest chips possible to keep costs down, and we used all sorts of tricks to keep our games' sizes small. I'm ultimately _assuming_ many of those tricks were holdovers from NES and arcade game development. I didn't go to school for game dev, though the coworkers that I learned from had. First, the easier one to explain: sprites *flickering*. Sprites=the things that move around the screen: MegaMan, platforms, enemies, projectiles, "explosion particles", etc. All art in the NES is broken up into 8x8 tiles, so depending on pose, MegaMan is 2-4 tiles wide. You can have 64 sprite tiles on the screen at a time, BUT only 8 sprite tiles on any single pixel horizontal line before they stop rendering. So...4 tiles for MegaMan, and if he shoots 4 bullets (1 tile each) horizontally, there's no tiles left to render an enemy on that line. But there's a trick where they'll use code to quickly alternate which tiles get rendered so more sprite tiles can occupy a single line. Imagine on frame 1, MegaMan is rendered but the enemy isn't, frame 2, MM isn't but the enemy is, repeat...it's so fast that your eyes and brain have no trouble parsing who/what is where, but visually, you still see the flicker as the tiles quickly cycle on and off. This is incredibly common in old games. From what I understand, the flicker usually isn't a problem for epileptics, as the sprites make up only a small portion of the screen and each flicker is only one frame.
@@memesong21 (Continued) The _flashing_ is different, and I think way more likely to cause epileptic issues. For special effects and highlights and whatnot, we used a trick called 'palette swapping' to keep things as small as possible, and I think something similar is happening here. To make things smaller, the code for each pixel in a tile didn't specify its color. Instead, each tile (sprite or background) indexes a spot in a 'palette'--a group of colors. The games I made usually had 8 or 16 color palettes, but I think the NES was limited to 4 color palette...which are actually 3 color palettes, because the first color is always "transparent". MegaMan is a great example for this: his blue outfit changes to different colors to indicate the different powers, right? So all you need to understand is that it's the same tiles/art and the only thing that changes is that it's indexing a different palette. This means the actual art is encoded not as "transparent, black, blue, blue, aqua, aqua, blue, black", but as "color# 1,2,3,3,4,4,3,2" and the code says "when MegaMan is blue, index palette 1(transparent, black, blue, aqua), when he's red, index from palette 2 (transparent, black, red, pink)". Now here's the "trick". The NES loads 8 palettes at a time, 4 for background and 4 for sprites. Say we want to indicate an enemy taking damage. If it's a 4 tile sprite, we could swap to another frame of animation (cost: 4 tiles in ROM, and processing power to draw those 4 tiles), or use an overlay (cost: 4 tiles in ROM, processing power to bring in those tiles, PLUS we're at 8 tiles in our scanline so likely hello flicker-time/processing power to cycle the tiles in and out as explained above)...OR! we have an alternate palette, wherein instead of transparent, black, blue, aqua, the colors are transparent, aqua, white, white, and code it so when the enemy takes damage, it indexes palette 2 for a couple of frames, then palette 1 for a couple of frames, then palette 2, before settling out back at its normal palette 1. This'll look like the blue-with-a-black outline enemy flashes to white-with-an-aqua-outline twice when it's damaged, and all it costs is a tiny bit of processing power to switch the palette. (Take for example the big fish @ 5:10). Swapping to an alternate palette with transparent, white, transparent, transparent would make a transparent "ghost" with just a white outline. All with negligible cost to cartridge size and working memory. And the background tiles can be palette swapped too--like making the black background flash white @6:51. We used palette swaps for all sorts of things--hiding textures or features within background tiles, changing text colors to highlight menu options, even simulating animation, like "scrolling" conveyor belts or twinkling stars, without additional frames by swapping through multiple palettes. I'm pretty sure the trippy "animated" backgrounds for the Lavos Core boss fight in Chrono Trigger are just a series of palette swaps on a single frame background (the SNES has 16 color palettes, with 8 palette slots for background tiles at any one time.) It was a great trick, but especially with the NES limitations, with 4(3) color palettes (and I think only 64 preset colors to choose from), it's not surprising that there's a lot of painful flashing effects.
Excellent work as always! Sorry this is how things played out. It may not feel that way now, but considering everything, I'm confident a reupload was the right course of action! Best wishes Salt!
@@coredumperror Salt has a pinned comment with a video that goes in depth on it. Basically there were a couple f-bombs close together in a clip he used. And TH-cam age restricted it, then removed it, then re added it and doubled down. So they effectively killed the video forever
Cyghfer set a new Mega Man 2 World Record of 26:32.4 in November 2022, which still stands. 26:2X is certainly possible, as you can see where that run could’ve been polished a bit more. However, keep an eye on Ellonija - It appears he’s back on the scene, after posting a 26:39.8 on Normal Mode earlier today, which makes him the third sub-26:40 MM2 speedrunner and is his new PB, IIRC.
I didn't even know Chase for the Record existed, but I really enjoyed that segment as well! I don't generally watch speedrunner streams because they tend to get boring, but I'd love to watch something like that with high stakes and commentary and explanations!
@@bsidethebox People are getting so dumb they can't tell the difference between a human and a bot. There's tons of bots sure, but they're easy to spot. I can't imagine not having the common sense and understanding of my fellow man that I can't spot a bot.
One of your best videos so far. The quality of the production, the level of research, the storytelling, everything is amazing! It's a bummer that YT restricted the video in it's original release. Hopefully with this reupload your channel can recover its momentum. Best of lucks!
cyghfer getting a world record in a game that competitive during a goddamn live 3 hour event might be one of the absolute most legendary speedrunning events I've heard of (though, not that I'm that knowledgeable about it- something similar might have happened in another event i don't know of)
Hey dude, sorry your video got flagged down for literally no reason outside of mismanagement and overconfidence. Hopefully things turn out just as great as they would’ve been originally, because this is a fantastic video and you’re an amazing creator :) I’ve never had an entire library of videos get me so hype for so many things that I don’t really care about, so please keep up the good work and don’t let the platform get push you down
The event in question is actually only three seconds, so for this video it impacts nothing except a large hit to Summoning Salt’s watcher time, discoverability, time used in creating effectively a documentary, and goodwill with TH-cam.
@UCt8rVaseGSXFsmE49bZ_6oA I’m applauding the creativity of the segment instead of just doing an ad read. It made it more entertaining to watch than the same old ad read I’ve heard a million times for VPN services. I’m not going to shame a creator for having a sponsor, it’s hard to validate spending this much time on something and not getting any money in return, especially if this is his main or only source of income. You’re always free to skip the segment if you hate it so much.
I've been subscribed since your Choco Mountain video, and I don't usually comment/like/save to a playlist/recommend to friends, but in light of your current circumstances, I did just that. Speedrunning is far beyond my skillset but every video you produce is fun to follow even if I know nothing about said game. Thank you for choosing to persevere despite YT's callous treatment, and please remember your fans always, always have your back.
I'm just imagining the day when someone does a video on Summoning Salt and it starts of with the same intro music "This, is Summoning Salt, if you've been around since 2017, you may have heard of him."
I can’t get over the tragedy of Ellonija’s run ruined by an outage. I don’t know if that’d feel worse than cyghfer failing at a risky strat at the very end, but it hit me harder, especially with him no longer streaming.
I think Ellonija's is worse because the outcome was out of his hands. Cyghfer was in control and didn't execute. It's easier to accept failure than to have the opportunity taken from you.
I feel for him. Like a lot. I’m an achievement hunter and have done extremely difficult achievements. I live in a country where we have a SCHEDULE for power outages. And even this schedule can change unexpectedly. I play on a playstation and was so close to 100%ing a game I’ve been playing for at least a year. The power went out as I was getting the final trophy. My game files got corrupted. Everything was gone. I still haven’t gotten that 100% and it still haunts me to this day.
I just wanted to say that I have been following this entire debacle and I am so sorry that TH-cam has given you the run around and I wanted to support as best I can. Liked, Commented, already subscribed. Your content is god damn phenomenal and It's been great seeing you grow from when you uploaded your very first WR history video.
I first learned that speedrunning was a thing when I ran across some AGDQ videos, but never knew anything about the history of the runs and just how much effort was put into finding new ways to save time. I hope you understand your channel and AGDQ have probably inspired thousands to start speedrunning and that your contribution has not only ensured that the speedrunning community will remain vibrant for years to come, but also will lead to many new breakthroughs and discoveries by people who would have never known about the speedrunnning community but for your efforts. Thank you for taking the time to make these videos!
Salt, you are by far one of the highest quality content creators I follow on TH-cam. I mean up there with Mark Rober and such. Legitimately, you're legendary and deserve nothing but success. You've helped my love of speed running grow exponentially, and I get chills when I hear some of your signature tracks. Keep up the great work, and im MORE than happy to watch and comment and do anything else I can do to help you get past this absolute BS situation. You've got this, you'll get past it
It's a shame that things had to come to this, but I'm happy that the video gets to exist mostly intact. It means your work didn't completely go to waste. Thank you for always putting out detailed, soothing, and high-quality content. The moderation team may not appreciate it, but we do :)
I watched the original 2 or 3 times fully and I'll do it again, these videos deserve it. The quality is superb, well done Salt, sorry TH-cam doesn't understand how to run their own website.
We’re with you Summoning Salt. The restrictions placed on you were unreasonable, and I hope that now this video can receive the recognition it deserves. You’re the man! Keep doing what you do!
Events like this remind me that the best way to support content creators is by direct means, not through a platform. Unfortunately I'm not yet capable of doing this myself, but I'll be sure to spread the word around. Hope this does not dampen so much your motivation in producing content
Liking, commenting, sharing are all free. They can actually be more valuable than a direct donation. Do not underestimate the power or the value of your love and support!
Not usually a commenter, but I want to support your amazing work. It's really not cool what happened with the old vid, hope this one gets the traction you need. We all need more summoning salt in our lives!
This was a beautiful documentary styled video, which I imagine contained much MUCH time to get out the door. Thank you for sharing this story, and I'm sorry that TH-cam tagged your original one. This video deserves the original views and many more.
I'm really glad to see a Speedrunner who has a normal life and sets boundaries with his hobby. I don't always get that impression. And I'm super glad he spoke on it himself.
You are an excellent storyteller. It is great to see this tale spin out from beginning to end, with a look at all the highlights and low points of the journey, and it is especially satisfying to see where the main players are today for a look at a possible future. Everything from your careful wording to your music choices is pitch perfect for keeping up suspense and engagement. I only have a casual interest in speedrunning, but I'm always impressed by these videos in particular and have watched every single one so far. All this to say that you're doing a great job with these documentaries, and I am definitely looking forward to seeing more from you!
Rarely do I watch reuploads, but this video was so well crafted it'd be a crying shame to not watch it again, fully well knowing that I'd watch it again anyways. Love your content man, sucks that TH-cam can't think straight most of the time.
I'm so happy I discovered your channel, I'm not into speed running but the way you narrate is a good blend informative and entertaining. Sorry TH-cam screwed you.
Can’t believe this was age restricted before, such a wonderfully crafted video. Megaman 2 in general is one of the craziest games, and the speed runs continue that trend
@summoningSalt I love your speed running history videos, and seeing you in action on Mike Tyson’s Punch out was great, very impressive. From the first video your voice and speech patterns (how you talk in general) sounds so much like Will Wheaton who’s movies as a kid are some of my favorites, and his reading of Ready Player One…. Anyways I think you guys are voice twins which is pretty cool. Keep up the good work.
So sorry that this happened. I watched this when it came out and I think it's one of your best breakdowns yet. The interviews in the middle really help paint the picture of the event and creates so much tension and interest I'd love to see more of that going forward. This video deserves so much recognition so I'm happy to help with engagement and making sure this video is seen far and wide.
never usually comment but you really deserve it. this video, and all your others, are so excellent and have such ridiculously high production quality. thank you so much for the effort you put into this channel, these videos really soothe me to listen to and have helped me through some rough stuff! really sorry to hear about what happened with the original video, here's to hoping this re-upload gets thing back on track for you.
I was a backup runner for MM3 for that 2018 relay race I was sitting right behind Team Roll on stage Cyghfer was the MVP for that relay he killed it. So cool to witness it live he deserves all the credit he gets for this game
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This is a reupload - I’m sorry for any confusion. It is the same as my last Mega Man 2 video, but with all profanity censored. In case you haven’t heard what happened, my last video was age-restricted: th-cam.com/video/qs_7crdHpbo/w-d-xo.html. I cannot disagree more with TH-cam’s ruling on this.
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Thanks to the following people for help with research! Be sure to check their channels out:
cyghfer: www.twitch.tv/cyghfer
Shinryuu: th-cam.com/users/MrSHNRYUU
shoka: www.twitch.tv/shokashoka
warmCabin: th-cam.com/channels/qph5T9ZBmtdXCTvg-kgEzg.html
sinister1: www.twitch.tv/sinister1
coolkid: www.twitch.tv/coolkid
And check out the Mega Man 2 leaderboards to keep up with other top runners - megamanleaderboards.net/index.php?game=2
Hello
Legend
TH-cam policy sucks
No worries!
it’s okay
Lets get this back to Trending #1. IT DESERVES IT
Lets get this bread gamers and stick it to the man!
just saw you driving backwards!
Hello speed driver boi
Hoping you two do a collaboration video in the future!!
WIRUTAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is a great documentary that doesn't deserve an age restriction. Let's get it trending again.
Gbay!!!! :O
My other favorite documentarian!
Agree 👍💯
Gbay99? Damn good to see you here!
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cyghfer reobtained his world record back this November 2022. He never gave up this grind and I don't think he ever will. Congrats.
Nope never, he will always either have the record or be chasing the record. He's not giving up on that. Glad to see he took it back just shortly after this video.
did he get a job tho?
@@pierreluc5382 yep!
nice, i was rooting for him the whole video
Were there any new strats? How did he do it
Salt you set the standard for high quality video game content, and this is your best documentary yet. It needs to get on trending again so more people can see it!
This is such a shame that this documentary got age restricted so i will watch this without skipping any parts of this master piece. Summoning Salt is a legend keep it up man!
it's crazy how whenever youtube gets a creator who makes genuinely amazing, high effort, and consistent content with something for everyone they treat them like garbage while allowing actual dangerous and obscene content fly every day
Funnily enough, searching up "ø" brings up gore and cartel execution videos! Seems youtube has some odd priorities...
@@testname4464 DaFuq? The Greek letter Theta is associated with that? I can't even.
I mean youtube won't even ban people like Sargon or his little nazi followers.
Your first name tells me you have Irish connections. Your surname...Greek? That's probably wrong, apologies. In any case I think the issue is that Google is an American company, bowing to American puritanical language standards. In Europe (including Ireland), coarse language isn't such a big deal. Both Ireland and the UK allow most "vulgar" language after 9pm on TV (C U Next Tuesday being an occasional exception for some random reason). You can't even say "shit" on network TV in the US. You can say it on cable but heaven help you if you even think about saying "fuck" if you're not on a premium adult channel.
TH-cam has frequently promoted to the top known obvious scam videos that have criminals stealing money from victims and they do nothing to stop them. Is anyone surprised they can't anything BUT drop the ball?
Imagine making this video, spending hours writing and editing it, going thru all the BS around the age restriction, and then Cyghfer coming along and beating the record shortly after the video is released.
Happens with a lot of his vids actually. Seen plenty of comments over his vids of people beating record within a week of the related vid dropping.
Wouldn't be surprised if it's because summoning salt doing research and talking to runners reignites some fervor to get back to the grind
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Yup. Imagine inspiring someone to have another go and eventually nail it.
I'm sure it's nice to think you may have inspired it
@@Zeuseus6609 Almost 2 years later Cyghfer still holds it!
If anything these videos have incredible rewatch value because you see how much work goes into foreshadowing and setting up of these incredible storylines. 11/10
I’ve watched several of my favorites a few times over the years. I forget so much it’s close enough to watching a new video. 😂
I've rewatched the mario kart wii ultra shortcuts video like 10 times and I've never played mario kart wii.
To be a bro leave this video playing somewhere in the background at 0.25x speed. It counts as watching it four times.
lets gooooooooo (im just commenting to help out the algorithm)
I love the ending describing the whereabouts of the speedrunners. It really tied the whole thing together with affirmation for what could be coming in a future, as well as providing a bondful feel for the speedrunners and not just looking at them as a name achieving a number. I look forward to more like this, and hopefully next time the video gets its well deserved praise.
Each video gets better than the last
So glad you could cover one of the most iconic games of all time! Here to give this video the boost it deserves!
re-cover lol
Also giving this video a boost
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"You cant keep Cyghfer from Rock Man 2." And on this very day... Cyghfer achieves the top spot. 26:32.4, a new world record!! CONGRATS CYGHFER!!!
YOOOOOO ODKJQDMJA
I was so sad he wasnt able to keep wr, you made my day sir
@@ArseAllowance same dude watchimg that run die was so heartbreaking, glad to have watched the wr live
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YEAH BABY (with 1 year delay)
Still there almost 2 years later. In 3 FREAKING DAYS!
i cannot overstate how amazing this storytelling is. the chase for the record bit with cypher felt like a legit documentary, it felt like the most important moment in history, and it was all about one person playing a game 15 seconds faster. well done. this is a masterpiece
Reminds me of slapshoes videos about older nascar chases for the cup (before nascar went full retard)
Allright allright, relax buddy
@@EnjoySackLunch bruh
@@theperfecteraser5988 what is the meaning of this, sir
@@EnjoySackLunch shut up
Watching a summoning salt video twice should be the bare minimum
Gotta do it three times now to get it even
Rookie numbers
Couldn’t agree more!
Im on 10 with this one, and thats a LOW estimate
That's what I'm doing now.
The way you can make someone who's never even played megaman to care so much about the record that I cheered loudly when cyghfer finally got it is truly a testament to your talent! Sorry you had to reupload this!
You must live a boring life
And he did it again as of 11/20/2022 and still holds it to this day!
Beating a record you’ve been attempting for months, on the absolute last run, on a competition stream. Legend.
Your work is valued, even if TH-cam doesn't quite realize it. You have a gift in storytelling as a documentarian.
I don't think youtube could possibly have their heads farther up their asses but at least re-uploading is a thing and the interaction (may) help the algorithm pick this one back up. Never do I really care about the "like, comment, subscribe" mentality unless I really like a channel, but this would be a nice way to toss a wrench into the system and support one of the best of the best on YT
He really is the best.
I think Cyghfer's relation of his Chase the Record run is unfathomably insightful. State of mind is ridiculously important. On that day, he was fully at peace with the possibility of failure but also fully believed he had the ability required to succeed. That's the state of mind you need to perform at your fullest potential, and it's all but impossible to call upon it on demand.
It's blood-boilingly tragic that this is the video to get fucked by arbitrary profanity rules because this is a masterpiece.
This is inspiring ❤️
TechNickL: It truly represents the way to live life in general: let go of the outcome. It allows you to do your best, be satisfied with your effort/performance whether you win or lose, and if you do win, you can actually just enjoy it instead of - compared to when you are attached to the outcome - just worrying about losing your title or experiencing some setback, which is bound to happen, but your mental state decides how to react to it.
Ironically you achieve more when you are more at peace with (not necessarily indifferent to, but accepting of) the potential outcomes. Of course you still have a serious chance of failure, but it is saying something that it improves, not worsens, when you let go of the outcome.
Related to this is that it reminds me of how people who do things chiefly for the accolades and trophies and such, are not the ones who usually get them, but rather it's the people who don't care so much about those things who end up getting them because their state of mind allowed them to perform better, and the awards flow naturally, whether they were particularly wanted or not.
I would argue that the point of awards is more about the community _wanting_ to honor people, rather than satisfying people's wants to be honored. The distinction is clear when oftentimes, the person the community is dying to honor, often seems indifferent to the honor, or even doesn't want the credit sometimes, and that is a sign that the person very much internally understands what they achieved, and no missing of a title can take that away from them. They appreciate the essence of what they achieved, not the recognition of it. This contrasts with other players who might also play at a very high level, but may still be attached to the outcome too much, and so they haven't fully let loose on their potential to become the very best. The very best are exceptional to the rest of the great players, by definition, and it usually reflects not only exceptional technical traits, but also mental and emotional ones.
I don't intend to speak in absolutes of course, but I think the trend is that the people who deserve the honor tend to be the ones who don't particularly want/need the credit. Of course this mindset needs to come up organically (by being mentally healthy, etc.), and not merely be fabricated in order to virtue-signal or something. The people with this genuine mindset are not only not in need of credit for their technical achievement, but not in need of credit even for having the mindset itself by those such as myself who notice it in them. The reason I honor it is not because these people need it but because I want to do it, and because they might like to know the people they have inspired by it, and be happy for those people, rather than be validated by those people (as great achievers already found ways to find their own internal validation to get where they are today, and it rubs off on people when they see the fruits of that mindset).
It's sort of like laughing: genuine laughter is when we are trying to hold in our laughter but just can't, because the situation takes control of us (in a positive way). We laugh at these people whether they want us to laugh or not. I feel like true admiration can ooze out in this same kind of way as laughter. Where it's not that we honor out of some perceived duty, but when the "honor" feels like genuine enjoyment, to the point where, if someone told us not to honor them, we wouldn't feel relief, but instead would actually have trouble containing the honor we wanted to give them :)
Reminds me of when I was younger and I had come close but never broke the 5:00 mark for a mile.
I still remember I had two bran muffins and some regular ass yogurt for breakfast. By game time it was just there. No jitters, just calm. I didn't just do it, I crushed it. I ran down that mile in 4:38
I remember my teacher just kept saying "not fast enough" every lap. I was coughing up blood by the time I was done. It was like a crazy unlock moment for "what the mind wills the body does." I did wild shit for the next two decades, swimming in freezing rivers, crawling through hundreds of meters of drainage pipe under stadium parking lots that was barely wider than my shoulders, shit at one point I got into an argument with my psychotic mother and promptly hiked off to live in the Appalachians for almost 2 years. Working from 0330 to 2230, getting 3 hours of sleep every night. Taking that opportunity to attempt an iron man schedule (sleep 15 minutes every 6 hours).
It was wild. But I had no semblance of sanity and now I'm just over 40 and my body is ruined. Sometimes I can't convince myself to sit down and play some video games for an hour.
I like that you talk about the state of mind thing.
And I suddenly wonder, if there is something to why someone breaking a long standing record is often then beaten themselves soon after.
The longer a record stands, the more legendary it is, the more likely someone is to be tense about it. Even though beating the time that beat that time is logically harder, there is that element of "he just did it, so I think I can too"
@@derekg5563 take my like
I love how these videos are all a masterclass in not only documentation and research, but storytelling.
And editing
yeah, it's great how he also explains how the big tricks work in such a way that even those who've never even seen the game can understand what's going on
Yes point exactly
Every time Summoning Salt posts a video, I tell myself that It's worth paying the internet today. His content is unrivaled and unique with a great storytelling. Keep it up!
I don't know how you do it.
You basically count down from one number to another but it's so compelling, so engaging, so watchable.
I'm hooked from start to finish and your use of music and editing to make things land give me goose bumps every time.
Please never stop making these, Thank you.
It’s not about the numbers. It’s about the stories we tell. It’s how people worked on this. How they found themselves becoming famous over a few seconds. Even without the speedrun, the passion is what makes this important.
I hope that what can only be called a "travesty of a need" to reupload this will prove to make this video, and you, more popular, Salt. The History of World Records series is the only one on TH-cam that consistently makes me stop what I'm doing to watch it instead.
You give so much more than we could ask for, and deserve far better than you've received.
I can't imagine how exhausting this whole age-restriction ordeal has been for you. To pour your heart & soul into a project for so long, hoping that all of your hard work is properly rewarded, only to be taken for a massive emotional (and financial) roller-coaster ride...it's so unfair.
I hope you're doing okay, SS. 💙 Thank you for all the hard work you put in.
^ not the time
Maybe just say the full name
I agree, this is his job now, he must have been devastated.
Jesus it's bad and annoying but it's not like his immediate family died
If there's a silver lining to the awful age restriction situation, it's that I, and hopefully more people like me, found your content through hearing about it. I watched because I like speedrunning and wanted to give the video support, but now I'm sticking around because wow, you're an amazing documentary maker! This had me as emotionally invested as a movie. Well done! 👏
Re-watching this video because it deserves it. Your determination is respectable for everything that happened to the original video.
This deserves a rewatch.
What happened??? Im confused! 😅
I’m rewatching this in full, and upvoting everyone that is doing the same. SS provides great content, truly my favorite channel.
I heard it happened, so I didn't watch yet, so I could watch now.
Though I was expecting him just to go in and edit the original video with TH-cam's editor, blanking out the audio when the profanity struck. I guess that wasn't an option for some reason. (Maybe a limited number of edits, maybe because TH-cam wouldn't reverse their decision anyway.)
Schutz Staffel
"Thank you but please refrain from using that acronym"
@@ZipplyZane The thing is, even in the time, the age restricton was lifted for a short period, the video got nearly zero views via recommendations. Regarding the algorithm, the video was dead. So even if it would been possible to edit the part out through the editor and TH-cam lifts the restriction once again, it wouldn't really fix the problem of way too few impressions.
Gonna watch this whole thing again so it doesn't lose watch time, it deserves as many views as possible
Agreed. It's a shame it got age restricted in the first place
Me too.
Same. Watching again at 2x speed, gonna have the window open the whole time, too.
Stellar storytelling, I was hooked from beginning to end. And the graphic representation of WRs is a very nice addition !
So, where's your pic of a hot girl and her ass? Bot 🙄
I don't usually comment on your videos, but I want to do everything I can to help this one out. It's a shame what happened to the original, because you deserve nothing but success with all of the time, effort, and passion you put into your videos.
Absolutely. Summoning Salt makes great videos, I love the sports documentary vibe and the gravitas it lends to speedrunning and I want the channel to keep growing, sooo... comment, comment, comment!
@@saschaberger3212 who cares lol
@@saschaberger3212 who cares? they left one simple comment because they thought the video was well-made and deserved support. there's no need to care if your comment isn't recognized because you shouldn't expect anything in return, esp. from someone you don't know
I don’t know the creator or care if he replies to my comments, but I do know it is wrong for TH-cam to steal ad revenue from people for some apparently obscure political purposes.
@@saschaberger3212 Because, like they said, they want to help this video out, they're not seeking recognition. You sound like you are, so here it is: you exist.
I’m in awe of the sheer effort goes into every one of these videos. Nobody makes long-form videos like this quite like you
Not surprising the Empire is into speedrunning seeing as they speedran a near-extinction event for the Jedi.
@@SylvaGardenia He would have done it sooner but Force glitches were banned on Twin Galaxies.
@@recitationtohear I think you're wrong there.
@@SylvaGardenia And then Palpatine discovered a new technique. Enter, Order 66.
Making sure I do my part to push this one on the algorithm. So sorry this situation happened to you salt, of all the creators on this platform why you were targeted I don’t understand. Don’t let this hiccup knock you down, you never stop improving and I always look forward to your next uploads :)
You're a fantastic content creator man, I'm sorry you have to suffer TH-cam's terrible bureaucracy. This video definitely deserves the #1 trending spot.
*dictatorship
Cyghfer truly does feel like a speedrunning hero. Whether or not he ever pulls off his perfect run, he's still going to be immortalized as a legend of Mega Man 2
He almost turned into the Joker after that crazy run
He has whats close to it, since he did retake it 11/20/2022 and the record stands today as 26:32.4
I’m happy to do my part to get this masterpiece seen by the masses. You have my full support! Keep making great stuff! Sorry that this happened to you.
Doing my part to help engagement on the video. You really deserve the best man, fingers crossed the reupload goes well.
i stumbled upon your channel while i was in the mental hospital. your videos honestly helped me through some tough times, now i usually listen to them to help me fall asleep. thank you summoning salt, for all your hard work!
Good to hear you’re doing better my friend
I know what that's like, i'm glad to hear that you're doing better
ywbaw
Hope you're staying well. Great to hear you're doing better now!
lol
I've never been big on speedrunning, I didnt own my own nintendo console until 2018 when I bought a gamecube, and Ive never played the classic games you constantly track speedruns for. But over the last year or so I've become engrossed. Contra, Wii Sports, Punch Out, etc. Games I either hadn't heard of, or never realized there was a speedrunning community for it. The hours upon hours watching record breaking runs, comebacks, strategies, your videos are masterpieces of knowledge and video game history. Let's get this video back to trending because you deserve it after all the hard work you put in on everything you give us ❤️
Thank you Salt, for being an amazing creator!
Can't say I've ever been interested in Mega Man, but just listening to the way you craft + deliver the story of all these speedrunners, plus the way you explain the games + techniques so simply, makes for a hugely engaging vid.
It just works!
Dunno but mega man always seemed a bit buggy... never really enjoyed it that much
@@disrealnow9664 The first three NES Mega Man games definitely have their fair share of jank. Most of the games after that feel way more polished.
I’m definitely going to give this video a re-watch just so I can support you, man! Once again, I’m so sorry that you had to go through this whole situation but hopefully this video will get even more attention and support than the original upload. Thank you for all that you do!
And I will read comments and engage the whole time while rewatching.
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Why do all these video seem so epic. I don't even play video games yet I find myself going on these journey into these world record battles. The music...the editing...so good! Keep them coming
Q look
summoning salt is an amazing storyteller. these videos are emotional and exciting. you feel with the runners.
It’s incredibly upsetting it had to come to this. With all the recent events, TH-cam needs to be more clear with their rules. Absolutely ridiculous. Keep up the good work Summoning Salt, we will always support you!
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@@toby2581 And it shouldn’t be that way. TH-cam only succeeds when it’s creators succeed so why make it difficult for creators to succeed with vague rules and absurd reasons to age restrict videos. It isn’t that difficult to set and enforce specific rules, instead of going back and forth when deciding if a video should be age restricted. I completely understand that videos need to be “advertiser friendly” but the grounds on which to classify a video as “advertiser friendly” shouldn’t vary on every video.
Well Actually…… Hearing a few swear words is causing severe degradation in our society. Most don’t know about it as the biased media won’t cover it.
Thankfully TH-cam is accurately censoring these destructive videos. More of this will get our society back on track.
Now I’m off to watch the un-age-restricted, family friendly AVGN episodes.
@@EboRL they probably use an AI they have no control over to make rulings, and are unable to override it, or something like that.
Cyghfer's tenacity is incredibly admirable. I couldn't imagine being in his shoes and pursuing the record, that's so intense! What a crazy race to the top with coolkid, what a show!!
The whole demonetization headache sucked, glad to help get this one back on track!
Bot moment
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Age restriction
Well Actually…… Hearing a few swear words is causing severe degradation in our society. Most don’t know about it as the biased media won’t cover it.
Thankfully TH-cam is accurately censoring these destructive videos. More of this will get our society back on track.
Now I’m off to watch the un-age-restricted, family friendly AVGN episodes.
TOO MANY ADS👎👎
Something about cypher's comeback literally brought tears to my eyes. It's a metaphor for the human spirit and how people fight uphill battles and how sometimes we can get unexpected grace
And he is 3 days from having it for 2 freaking years LESSGO!
@@1-800-nonyaMy god I have seen your responses about his record from 2 years to 2 weeks ago, lmao do you just sit there & refresh these comments, waiting to exclaim loudly that "HE HAS THE RECORD STILL"? 😅
This video and your channel in general needs to TREND. I genuinely want to push this towards mainstream, your content is so enjoyable and accessible.
lets gooooooooo (im just commenting to help out the algorithm)
He already is mainstream, as far as gaming related content on YT goes.
This channel is huge man. His videos go trending every time he uploads.
Why are you so aggressive? If it's good, it will get enough recognition. No need to push anything... especially to mainstream. What do you even mean?
I really loved the addition of player interviews in this it gave a nice depth and connection that you don't get from just stream clips
Bh
Engagement +1
Hello you!
That definitely was a level up for Salt
engagement engagement engagement. More comments means more tending
Man i could listen to you talk about ANYTHING. Your videos just hit me in this spot. The way you just put the whole package together with editing. Your comfortable nature while speaking. The build up. It is sublime. I hope you never stop making videos. They are the best content online imho.
I feel the same way! SS's style is just, chef's kiss!
I’ve found this 9 months after upload and to my surprise, cyghfer has once again taken the record! As of 7/10/23 he still holds number one with 26:32.4 and coolkid has number 2 at 26:34.4. Cyghfer has held this record since 11/20/22.
Let’s try and get this video promoted as much as possible, I feel bad for summoning salt and he deserves to get recognition, especially for how much work he put into this video, and how good it turned out.
im just leaving it running on a loop on mute in the background. doesnt do much but it's what i can do.
@@masonw9971 Comment for the algorithm
Yeah the more discussion we generate the more likely it'll get promoted right?
@@spk_eze it failed to get into the ranking even when it has 300k views. seems like algorithm isn't pushing this.
@@fasddfadfgasdgs Ah well, maybe in a years' time it'll pop up in a bunch of people's recommended 😊
What happened is a shame, but let's not let it distract us from how amazing of a video this is. Thank you for your work Summoning Salt!
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He really is the best
Here here!
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Interacting for the algo. Incredible quality as always. Thanks for the unending dedication to letting the world know just how fun and impressive speedrunning can be
Starting a fake flamewar argument for the algo 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@go-away-5555 then to war we must go 🔥🔥🔥
Interacting for the same reason
@@go-away-5555 Not gonna lie I hate you're guts. :)
It's crazy to think how little time was reduced from when Ureta's run was submitted to where it is now.
I don't personally know cyghper, but, watching him work so hard to get beaten in such a short time almost made me cry. Despite that, he didn't give up, he tried again and again. Everytime we thought he was gone, he came back. When we thought the record couldn't be beaten, he proved us wrong. I'm sure his determination has and will continue to inspire many people. What a legend.
So many of Summoning Salt's vids have moments moving me nearly to tears. Maybe that's why this one was age restricted. The TH-cam mods, through tears, were like.. we have to protect the children.. 😭 this is too much
Cyghfer got the new wr 4 days ago ! 26:34,4 !!! Lets hope he keeps it or improves it again !
@@ArseAllowancehmm, how can it be a new record if it matches the earlier time from coolkid?
For me, he's the true hero of this story. To clinch out a WR in a live competition at such high level is simply unheard of. Yet, he did it. I wish him all the best for his tech career and his future WR attempts!
@@alex.r.g It's actually a 26:32,4.
Really glad to see it re-uploaded, and here's hoping that the algorithm pushes it to recommendation lists the way that it should. This is an amazing piece of content, and it deserves every bit of recognition that it gets. Cheers to you Salt.
This video was amazing. I hope it gets the recognition it deserves without being restricted by TH-cam this time
What's insane to me is you got 600k+ views on a re-upload. You've grown so much as a channel since I first started watching you. Keep it up, you're one of TH-cam's secret golden pillars. The entire reason why speedrunning has any popularity on the platform.
I’ll still rewatch your content, you work so hard and more people need to see this. Your channel was one of the few recommendations that I was happy to subscribe to. Keep up the awesome work.
Boosting the algorithm
Crazy how many of these speedruns practically have their own story arcs and protagonists. Art really does imitate life
It is also a little bit of narrative crafting and over emphasizing the drama
Crazy how people do things in real life hey
I'm making this comment merely for the algorithm, but I want to also want to say thank you for making these highly entertaining videos about world records of video games, and also to say that you didn't deserve that age restriction.
I dunno if responding to comments also feeds the beast but may as well right?
Man makes good content, needs to be rewarded for that.
Yeah, can't hurt! It's a travesty that something like this happens to summoning salt
additional comment for the algorithm gods
Boosting algorithm
I am also commenting. Summoning Salt deserves all the engagement.
I was really hoping cygpher would get his record. He had such a struggle and it would've been an amazing end
He has the current world record with a 26:32 achieved in November !
@@Kaygu_ thanks 👍
@@Kaygu_ I just found that out right now when I looked at the current records randomly. Cygpher is a beast, and I was rooting for him since watching this, so I'm glad he took the record back. I think he will either have the record or be trying to get it back. He's a machine at this game.
Shoutout to Summoning Salt for ensuring there's a flash warning during videos. I'm mildly photosensitive, so coming in prepared is always needed.
This has so much flashing but it's still my favorite video. Thanks for the consideration and warnings every time, man.
So many old games have crazy flashing because it was such a cheap effect ROM wise. :(
Same here! Even though I usually just listen to long videos in the background while doing something else, I was incredibly grateful for the warning.
@@bsidetheboxyou mean stuff like the short flash in the a link to the past intro?
@@memesong21 ...I'm not sure? I'm assuming you're talking about Zelda, but I don't have a copy to look at. Let me nerd out and see if that answers your question. (Excuse my word avalanche, I'm not very good at short and sweet.)
So, caveats first: I'm no expert. I made art and did design for some cheap electronic toys and Plug-and-Play video games (those $20 straight-to-the-clearance-shelf themed joysticks with like 4 games on them circa 2010ish) that used the cheapest and thus smallest chips possible to keep costs down, and we used all sorts of tricks to keep our games' sizes small. I'm ultimately _assuming_ many of those tricks were holdovers from NES and arcade game development. I didn't go to school for game dev, though the coworkers that I learned from had.
First, the easier one to explain: sprites *flickering*. Sprites=the things that move around the screen: MegaMan, platforms, enemies, projectiles, "explosion particles", etc. All art in the NES is broken up into 8x8 tiles, so depending on pose, MegaMan is 2-4 tiles wide. You can have 64 sprite tiles on the screen at a time, BUT only 8 sprite tiles on any single pixel horizontal line before they stop rendering. So...4 tiles for MegaMan, and if he shoots 4 bullets (1 tile each) horizontally, there's no tiles left to render an enemy on that line. But there's a trick where they'll use code to quickly alternate which tiles get rendered so more sprite tiles can occupy a single line. Imagine on frame 1, MegaMan is rendered but the enemy isn't, frame 2, MM isn't but the enemy is, repeat...it's so fast that your eyes and brain have no trouble parsing who/what is where, but visually, you still see the flicker as the tiles quickly cycle on and off. This is incredibly common in old games. From what I understand, the flicker usually isn't a problem for epileptics, as the sprites make up only a small portion of the screen and each flicker is only one frame.
@@memesong21 (Continued) The _flashing_ is different, and I think way more likely to cause epileptic issues. For special effects and highlights and whatnot, we used a trick called 'palette swapping' to keep things as small as possible, and I think something similar is happening here.
To make things smaller, the code for each pixel in a tile didn't specify its color. Instead, each tile (sprite or background) indexes a spot in a 'palette'--a group of colors. The games I made usually had 8 or 16 color palettes, but I think the NES was limited to 4 color palette...which are actually 3 color palettes, because the first color is always "transparent". MegaMan is a great example for this: his blue outfit changes to different colors to indicate the different powers, right? So all you need to understand is that it's the same tiles/art and the only thing that changes is that it's indexing a different palette. This means the actual art is encoded not as "transparent, black, blue, blue, aqua, aqua, blue, black", but as "color# 1,2,3,3,4,4,3,2" and the code says "when MegaMan is blue, index palette 1(transparent, black, blue, aqua), when he's red, index from palette 2 (transparent, black, red, pink)".
Now here's the "trick". The NES loads 8 palettes at a time, 4 for background and 4 for sprites. Say we want to indicate an enemy taking damage. If it's a 4 tile sprite, we could swap to another frame of animation (cost: 4 tiles in ROM, and processing power to draw those 4 tiles), or use an overlay (cost: 4 tiles in ROM, processing power to bring in those tiles, PLUS we're at 8 tiles in our scanline so likely hello flicker-time/processing power to cycle the tiles in and out as explained above)...OR! we have an alternate palette, wherein instead of transparent, black, blue, aqua, the colors are transparent, aqua, white, white, and code it so when the enemy takes damage, it indexes palette 2 for a couple of frames, then palette 1 for a couple of frames, then palette 2, before settling out back at its normal palette 1. This'll look like the blue-with-a-black outline enemy flashes to white-with-an-aqua-outline twice when it's damaged, and all it costs is a tiny bit of processing power to switch the palette. (Take for example the big fish @ 5:10). Swapping to an alternate palette with transparent, white, transparent, transparent would make a transparent "ghost" with just a white outline. All with negligible cost to cartridge size and working memory. And the background tiles can be palette swapped too--like making the black background flash white @6:51.
We used palette swaps for all sorts of things--hiding textures or features within background tiles, changing text colors to highlight menu options, even simulating animation, like "scrolling" conveyor belts or twinkling stars, without additional frames by swapping through multiple palettes. I'm pretty sure the trippy "animated" backgrounds for the Lavos Core boss fight in Chrono Trigger are just a series of palette swaps on a single frame background (the SNES has 16 color palettes, with 8 palette slots for background tiles at any one time.)
It was a great trick, but especially with the NES limitations, with 4(3) color palettes (and I think only 64 preset colors to choose from), it's not surprising that there's a lot of painful flashing effects.
Excellent work as always! Sorry this is how things played out.
It may not feel that way now, but considering everything, I'm confident a reupload was the right course of action!
Best wishes Salt!
Where's 3 Right Pinkies?
What actually happened?
@@coredumperror Salt has a pinned comment with a video that goes in depth on it. Basically there were a couple f-bombs close together in a clip he used. And TH-cam age restricted it, then removed it, then re added it and doubled down. So they effectively killed the video forever
Don't worry, we'll do our best to make sure your hard documentation work gets acknowledged
Cyghfer set a new Mega Man 2 World Record of 26:32.4 in November 2022, which still stands. 26:2X is certainly possible, as you can see where that run could’ve been polished a bit more. However, keep an eye on Ellonija - It appears he’s back on the scene, after posting a 26:39.8 on Normal Mode earlier today, which makes him the third sub-26:40 MM2 speedrunner and is his new PB, IIRC.
that whole Chase for the Record segment was just incredible. overall phenomenal work as always, i can't even imagine all the work that went into this
I didn't even know Chase for the Record existed, but I really enjoyed that segment as well! I don't generally watch speedrunner streams because they tend to get boring, but I'd love to watch something like that with high stakes and commentary and explanations!
Bot comment?
@@thundercclap3963 ?
@@bsidethebox People are getting so dumb they can't tell the difference between a human and a bot. There's tons of bots sure, but they're easy to spot. I can't imagine not having the common sense and understanding of my fellow man that I can't spot a bot.
@@thundercclap3963 i don't think i'm a bot (unless there's something i dont know about myself)
I hope that this video gets on trending, because it 100% deserves it
One of your best videos so far. The quality of the production, the level of research, the storytelling, everything is amazing! It's a bummer that YT restricted the video in it's original release. Hopefully with this reupload your channel can recover its momentum. Best of lucks!
cyghfer getting a world record in a game that competitive during a goddamn live 3 hour event might be one of the absolute most legendary speedrunning events I've heard of (though, not that I'm that knowledgeable about it- something similar might have happened in another event i don't know of)
Hey dude, sorry your video got flagged down for literally no reason outside of mismanagement and overconfidence. Hopefully things turn out just as great as they would’ve been originally, because this is a fantastic video and you’re an amazing creator :) I’ve never had an entire library of videos get me so hype for so many things that I don’t really care about, so please keep up the good work and don’t let the platform get push you down
The event in question is actually only three seconds, so for this video it impacts nothing except a large hit to Summoning Salt’s watcher time, discoverability, time used in creating effectively a documentary, and goodwill with TH-cam.
TH-cam dropped the ball on this one
@@iantaakalla8180 Well, I read about Summoning Salt on Ars Technica a few days ago, so I would say his "discoverability" is doing just fine :).
That sponsor segment was absolute perfection, perfect integration ❤️
@UCt8rVaseGSXFsmE49bZ_6oA I’m applauding the creativity of the segment instead of just doing an ad read. It made it more entertaining to watch than the same old ad read I’ve heard a million times for VPN services. I’m not going to shame a creator for having a sponsor, it’s hard to validate spending this much time on something and not getting any money in return, especially if this is his main or only source of income. You’re always free to skip the segment if you hate it so much.
Right? One of the best personalized sponsorship segments I've seen haha
Yeah I really enjoyed it too!
I've been subscribed since your Choco Mountain video, and I don't usually comment/like/save to a playlist/recommend to friends, but in light of your current circumstances, I did just that. Speedrunning is far beyond my skillset but every video you produce is fun to follow even if I know nothing about said game. Thank you for choosing to persevere despite YT's callous treatment, and please remember your fans always, always have your back.
I've also been around since choco :)
I'm just imagining the day when someone does a video on Summoning Salt and it starts of with the same intro music "This, is Summoning Salt, if you've been around since 2017, you may have heard of him."
I can’t get over the tragedy of Ellonija’s run ruined by an outage. I don’t know if that’d feel worse than cyghfer failing at a risky strat at the very end, but it hit me harder, especially with him no longer streaming.
Yeah, a bunch of comments are talking about cyghfer, but that Ellon run just...ouch. All through the build up, I could feel the tension.
I think Ellonija's is worse because the outcome was out of his hands. Cyghfer was in control and didn't execute. It's easier to accept failure than to have the opportunity taken from you.
after a quick look at his twitter i think he's returned to streaming and wr attempts
I feel for him. Like a lot. I’m an achievement hunter and have done extremely difficult achievements. I live in a country where we have a SCHEDULE for power outages. And even this schedule can change unexpectedly. I play on a playstation and was so close to 100%ing a game I’ve been playing for at least a year. The power went out as I was getting the final trophy. My game files got corrupted. Everything was gone. I still haven’t gotten that 100% and it still haunts me to this day.
you deserve so much better than what TH-cam did to you, such an incredible creator
lets gooooooooo (im just commenting to help out the algorithm)
hell yeaahh (same)
Everybodty should comment alot to boost interaction!
I just wanted to say that I have been following this entire debacle and I am so sorry that TH-cam has given you the run around and I wanted to support as best I can. Liked, Commented, already subscribed. Your content is god damn phenomenal and It's been great seeing you grow from when you uploaded your very first WR history video.
I first learned that speedrunning was a thing when I ran across some AGDQ videos, but never knew anything about the history of the runs and just how much effort was put into finding new ways to save time. I hope you understand your channel and AGDQ have probably inspired thousands to start speedrunning and that your contribution has not only ensured that the speedrunning community will remain vibrant for years to come, but also will lead to many new breakthroughs and discoveries by people who would have never known about the speedrunnning community but for your efforts. Thank you for taking the time to make these videos!
Salt, you are by far one of the highest quality content creators I follow on TH-cam. I mean up there with Mark Rober and such. Legitimately, you're legendary and deserve nothing but success. You've helped my love of speed running grow exponentially, and I get chills when I hear some of your signature tracks. Keep up the great work, and im MORE than happy to watch and comment and do anything else I can do to help you get past this absolute BS situation. You've got this, you'll get past it
It's a shame that things had to come to this, but I'm happy that the video gets to exist mostly intact. It means your work didn't completely go to waste. Thank you for always putting out detailed, soothing, and high-quality content. The moderation team may not appreciate it, but we do :)
@@TravelWithRipej youtube will censor an hour-long documentary for a 3-second clip but won't do anything about these shitty bots 😩
@@6.28 😂😂😂 well said. I think that link will do more damage than those 3 seconds of profanity.
@@TravelWithRipej No
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@@TravelWithRipej I think you're lost mate.
I watched the original 2 or 3 times fully and I'll do it again, these videos deserve it. The quality is superb, well done Salt, sorry TH-cam doesn't understand how to run their own website.
it's insane to me how over the course of 18 years, the record was lowered by a total of less than four minutes.
We’re with you Summoning Salt. The restrictions placed on you were unreasonable, and I hope that now this video can receive the recognition it deserves. You’re the man! Keep doing what you do!
lets gooooooooo (im just commenting to help out the algorithm)
shid fug gunt
@@orgil.altansukh me also lol
Events like this remind me that the best way to support content creators is by direct means, not through a platform. Unfortunately I'm not yet capable of doing this myself, but I'll be sure to spread the word around. Hope this does not dampen so much your motivation in producing content
Liking, commenting, sharing are all free. They can actually be more valuable than a direct donation. Do not underestimate the power or the value of your love and support!
Not usually a commenter, but I want to support your amazing work. It's really not cool what happened with the old vid, hope this one gets the traction you need. We all need more summoning salt in our lives!
This was a beautiful documentary styled video, which I imagine contained much MUCH time to get out the door. Thank you for sharing this story, and I'm sorry that TH-cam tagged your original one. This video deserves the original views and many more.
I was hoping you would just reuplaod this. We’re all here to rewatch. I’m literally letting this play in its entirety for the watch time.
Same :)
Same!!
And looping it at night
Same! And I'm peppering comments too.
I'm really glad to see a Speedrunner who has a normal life and sets boundaries with his hobby. I don't always get that impression. And I'm super glad he spoke on it himself.
Been subbed for 3ish years and your content has just been getting exponentially better and better. So sorry you had to go through this with TH-cam.
You are an excellent storyteller. It is great to see this tale spin out from beginning to end, with a look at all the highlights and low points of the journey, and it is especially satisfying to see where the main players are today for a look at a possible future. Everything from your careful wording to your music choices is pitch perfect for keeping up suspense and engagement. I only have a casual interest in speedrunning, but I'm always impressed by these videos in particular and have watched every single one so far.
All this to say that you're doing a great job with these documentaries, and I am definitely looking forward to seeing more from you!
Rarely do I watch reuploads, but this video was so well crafted it'd be a crying shame to not watch it again, fully well knowing that I'd watch it again anyways. Love your content man, sucks that TH-cam can't think straight most of the time.
Same dude, it really sucks what they did, salt deserves to get the support fr
Boosting the algorithm
TH-cam doesn't deserve the best creators it has.
Thanks for the great episode as always.
It's rough that this had to happen with one of the best creators on the site. Keep doing what you do best man
Cyghfer is like old bands that do farewell tours only to say, "see you next year!" at the end
I Hope he gets the time he wants
I'm so happy I discovered your channel, I'm not into speed running but the way you narrate is a good blend informative and entertaining.
Sorry TH-cam screwed you.
Let’s all do our part and watch the video 30 times in a row again!
We appreciate all the content you make for us and all the work that you do!
“30 times in a row again“
The again had me cracking up. Hopefully we can get this video to blow up.
Wait, did you watch it 30 times in a row the first time?
Can’t believe this was age restricted before, such a wonderfully crafted video. Megaman 2 in general is one of the craziest games, and the speed runs continue that trend
@summoningSalt I love your speed running history videos, and seeing you in action on Mike Tyson’s Punch out was great, very impressive. From the first video your voice and speech patterns (how you talk in general) sounds so much like Will Wheaton who’s movies as a kid are some of my favorites, and his reading of Ready Player One…. Anyways I think you guys are voice twins which is pretty cool. Keep up the good work.
So sorry that this happened. I watched this when it came out and I think it's one of your best breakdowns yet. The interviews in the middle really help paint the picture of the event and creates so much tension and interest I'd love to see more of that going forward. This video deserves so much recognition so I'm happy to help with engagement and making sure this video is seen far and wide.
never usually comment but you really deserve it. this video, and all your others, are so excellent and have such ridiculously high production quality. thank you so much for the effort you put into this channel, these videos really soothe me to listen to and have helped me through some rough stuff! really sorry to hear about what happened with the original video, here's to hoping this re-upload gets thing back on track for you.
I agree on this comment! keep up the good work man
I wouldn’t say this is production quality, but rather an incredibly interesting and captivating story. The editing is still a nice touch, though
I was a backup runner for MM3 for that 2018 relay race I was sitting right behind Team Roll on stage Cyghfer was the MVP for that relay he killed it. So cool to witness it live he deserves all the credit he gets for this game
Here to support the re-upload