The smoke deflectors were necessary because ALCO created a blast pipe with less restriction, so the smoke wouldn't blow up the stack with as much force. This improved the performance of the engine, but smoked out the crew... :-)
They lubricate the inside of the wheel. Just on the flange, it keeps from binding on tight curves. The flat part of the rail - you want as much grip as possible..
I don't know. I think those side panels were just in the way; blinders on the iron horse, masking the engine's true beauty. But it's still a beautiful machine.
They WERE... until the mishap that happened prior. 844 has a system to allow it to control a diesel coupled behind it for extra power, but in this instance, the diesel ended up pushing 844 with its brakes locked on... what happened here was that the wheels got flat spots put into them from sliding for so long. They greased the rails because 844 is a big engine that can't handle sharp turns well due to how long it is. greasing the rails before a sharp turn lessens the wear and tear for the rails and the locomotive's wheels. The sharp turn leads to the closest place they could repair the wheels.
@@Armageddon_71 Nope. The problem with that is A). It's nowhere near as precise as a wheel lathe and B). Wheelslip for steam locomotives can have disastrous consequences. The friction caused by the wheels slipping creates heat. Ever seen how they put the big metal tires on a steamer's driving wheels? They expand it by about a quarter inch by heating it up so they can slip it onto the wheel. When it cools, it shrinks back and hugs the surface of the outer diameter of the wheel. Same concept, but in reverse. There was a picture I once saw with a B&O locomotive sitting pretty in the middle of the mainline with one of its tires leaning against the rods, completely off the wheel center. In this particular photo they were able to stop the train without major devastation being done, but other engines haven't been so lucky. Imagine what would happen to the transmission of a car if you were to drop a metal ring on it while the gears are spinning at full speed. Bad stuff, right? now imagine doing basically the same thing to a pressure vessel that weighs 450 tons and carries people at 70 mph.
@@PowerTrain611 Ok thanks for the Info! I wasnt expecting someone to respond a year after the other comment. I didnt think about the consequencences that much so thanks for bringing them up!
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They greased the rails (a bit too well) to help 844 on the right curve off the UP main in Round Rock that leads into GRR. She slipped and slided about a mile or so.
Everybody gangsta till 844 start moonwalking
You okay? You okay Annie?
@@MichaelTheRead 😂
Where?
Could be worse. 844 could've been doing a Virtual Insanity.
I never noticed how big the smoke deflectors are on 844. Damn.
The smoke deflectors were necessary because ALCO created a blast pipe with less restriction, so the smoke wouldn't blow up the stack with as much force. This improved the performance of the engine, but smoked out the crew... :-)
Superb regulator control from the engineer. Right on the edge all the time.
By saying regulator you mean throttle
@@danieldoesdumbstuff by saying throttle you mean regulator. Jk they are the same thing
Regulator, throttle.... just as long as there is a steady hand on the potentiometer valve..... LOL, you guys crack me up !!!!
Trivia item. If you think that, then it would be appropriate to call the engineer an "acrobat". From the Greek "acros" meaning "on the edge".
I've never really understood the point in greasing the rails when reactive effort is already a uphill battle for locomotives.
They lubricate the inside of the wheel. Just on the flange, it keeps from binding on tight curves. The flat part of the rail - you want as much grip as possible..
Yeap they are only supposed to grease the inside edge not the tops.
Yeah you grease the inside edge, as a MoW worker, ive seen some pretty trashed rails if they dont get lube on curves
I'm still in shock that 844 was in my hometown and i never knew.
Im shocked the UP 4014 went by my house in 2019 and never knew.
@@UnionPacificFan-cu3pt why are you everywhere i go
Also same, but for majority of mainline permitted steam engines from England
I don't know. I think those side panels were just in the way; blinders on the iron horse, masking the engine's true beauty.
But it's still a beautiful machine.
Blinders and smoke deflectors are some of the ugliest things, I can't stand them
UNION PACIFIC 844 ONE OF MY FAV TRAINS
I just had a Shining Time Station flashback just seeing the 844
What about thomas and the magic railroad🤣🤣🤣
@@djpuglife2230 that was a different engine
@@davidantoniocamposbarros7528 yea mate i knowthat was the stromberg line i believe its called
@Marilen Pascua what you mean?
Is it the same engine?
That was epic, those must be some smooth wheels if they are slippin' like that. God bless!
TrainTrackTrav ya
They WERE... until the mishap that happened prior. 844 has a system to allow it to control a diesel coupled behind it for extra power, but in this instance, the diesel ended up pushing 844 with its brakes locked on... what happened here was that the wheels got flat spots put into them from sliding for so long. They greased the rails because 844 is a big engine that can't handle sharp turns well due to how long it is. greasing the rails before a sharp turn lessens the wear and tear for the rails and the locomotive's wheels. The sharp turn leads to the closest place they could repair the wheels.
@@PowerTrain611 Couldn't you just pull the brakes on the diesel and let the 844 wheel slip the flat spots out?
@@Armageddon_71 Nope. The problem with that is A). It's nowhere near as precise as a wheel lathe and B). Wheelslip for steam locomotives can have disastrous consequences. The friction caused by the wheels slipping creates heat.
Ever seen how they put the big metal tires on a steamer's driving wheels? They expand it by about a quarter inch by heating it up so they can slip it onto the wheel. When it cools, it shrinks back and hugs the surface of the outer diameter of the wheel.
Same concept, but in reverse. There was a picture I once saw with a B&O locomotive sitting pretty in the middle of the mainline with one of its tires leaning against the rods, completely off the wheel center. In this particular photo they were able to stop the train without major devastation being done, but other engines haven't been so lucky.
Imagine what would happen to the transmission of a car if you were to drop a metal ring on it while the gears are spinning at full speed. Bad stuff, right? now imagine doing basically the same thing to a pressure vessel that weighs 450 tons and carries people at 70 mph.
@@PowerTrain611 Ok thanks for the Info!
I wasnt expecting someone to respond a year after the other comment.
I didnt think about the consequencences that much so thanks for bringing them up!
Hey mate, is it OK to feature your clip in a my chanel for educational purposes (so-called temporary copyright.)? You can stop me from using your content at any time and it will be deleted immediately.
It will be credited in the description & comments section with your name. Thanks, MM
Sure, please send a link to your channel.
@@texaseagletrains idiot your fake
I love the elephant ears between the firebox
Wheel silp is the best thing i ever seen
844 slipping on GRRAVI - someone should clean those rails!
Wot are the orange flashes above the rear pony wheels?
That's the fire in the firebox.
@@texaseagletrains Wow. I asked coz is sure doesnt look like any firebox Ive ever seen.
@@starpawsy she's an oil burner
Doesn't 844 have boosters on her trailing and truck?
Don't believe so. SP 4449 does.
Does that thing have a sandbox?
That's what's 6000 horsepower looks like
and all the torque
0:15 hello
Why it is good that Henry has OLD SQUARE WHEELS
umm
is the train so heavy?
Try a bit of sand.
Diesels can start more than they can pull, Steamers can Pull more than they can start…
Wait... not sure I understand the description correctly.... They did this on purpose???
They greased the rails (a bit too well) to help 844 on the right curve off the UP main in Round Rock that leads into GRR. She slipped and slided about a mile or so.
Ah, I think I get it now... the curve is a bit narrow for this beast?
Yes, the curve is narrow. The problem was that they greased more than just the curve. The curve was at least 1/2 a mile before this spot.
Ok who greased the tracks?
UP or GRR employees
God Bless America!
DEUTSCHLAND!
Not too many steam nuts on here gloating about the steam superiority compared to diesels.
Lil' yard engine would get it going.
As would a steam shunter, or a 9F or a Br52, or any other small wheeled steamer. As with everything it's a matter of gearing
Ameerricaa?
This is big boy
TS2020
not real
How so? I was there. You were not.
how dumb are you
no really
Oh ok