@@joe9739 maybe, but they seemed to hear everything the same. Bottom line I appreciate Klingon guile and ruthlessness. TOS Kahless was badass. I dig TNG clone too, just in a different way.
Beastin Jay Chattaway and Dennis McCarthy were beasts. Their music reflect that this was a truly dangerous time for the Federation - be it the home of Federation space (late "TNG," "DS9") or a lost ship on the other side of the galaxy ("Voyager," although "TNG" did this in "Where no one has Gone Before"). New more advanced enemies like the Cardassians, and later on the Dominion. And then 2 years later after this episode, the USS Voyagers get flung into the Delta Quadrant by the Caretaker. And they were in danger every episode. And pre-"First Contact"/pre-"Voyager," the big kingpin - the Borg were truly dangerous enemy. Although the militancy is more about the enemies who were biological. More advanced biological enemies (Cardassians, Dominion, Jem'Hadar, Changelings, renegade Borg under Lore) are more dangerous than the Collective, because they're merciless. The Borg may be a truly terrifying force but they're impersonal and don't care for pettiness.
Even the greatest of humans or in this case, klingon humanoid, from the history books or tales of old were mere mortals. Their extraordinary actions in life, which may elevate them to godlike status through the ages by their people, does not mean they were invulnerable or immortal.
Even if you forget his lack of fighting ability, this Kahless doesn’t seem that impressive. To be fair, in 15 centuries there could have been lots of advancement in martial arts.
Klingons back in the day of Kaless just stood in place and stabbed each other until one dropped. He was the greatest warrior because he invented blocking.
He gets mentioned a couple times in DS9, in Way of the Warrior worf mentions he opposed the war initiative against Cardassia but was ignored and in Sword of Kahless in regards to returning the legendary sword to him
@@hawkstringfellow Actually, according to the IDW comics, he got a wild hare up his ass and went full Gorr the God-Butcher on all the deities of Star Trek. Gary Mitchell, Trelane, and even Crystalline Entities all wind up dead due to Kahless's rampage. Oh, and Worf's son joined him.
That bit of dialogue about eyes was deliberate lol
This is why i love Gowron, he was a politician but no coward
Ye this clone dude was even shorter than him😂
@@easygrin1127 He was basically a midget.
What I liked was how Khaless enjoyed the fight...up until he lost
He didn't expect to get bodied by the OG short king himself.
Klingons just like to fight.
The one liners in this are gold.
Gowron completely derails the awe and cool lesson that this story conveys, lol. Its actually a pretty good lesson
But he did with good points
Gowron owns the fake Kahless.
points unrelated to the story. the lesson remains valid and valuable. I think Kahless' clone said something to this effect in the transporter room.
Whatcolor ... WERE HIS EYESSSS 👁_👁 ??
Better question: Did he have eyes like mine? Popin' out of his head?
I miss this Gowron.
When i imagine Kahless, i can only imagine O.G. Clone Kahless from The Savage Curtain.
I guess Kirk's mind did him a little dirty. I appreciated his voice tricks and torture, a real bastard.
@@danieljohn7788 Do you think Spock, President Lincoln and Surak all saw different images? It's possible, I never thought about it before..
@@joe9739 maybe, but they seemed to hear everything the same. Bottom line I appreciate Klingon guile and ruthlessness. TOS Kahless was badass. I dig TNG clone too, just in a different way.
Imagine if Duras had been Chancellor at this critical time.
Khaless would have just murk'd him in that fight and everyone in the room would have been like "Yep, he's the real deal. Long live Khaless!"
@@ninegearcrowhahahaha
I love the loud laughing of gorwon after he beat kahless😂😂😂😂😂😂
Gowron then went to write some Klingon bedtime stories about how he defeated Kahless 😂😂
Truth be told, even if that were the real kahless, Gowron would have likely still won. Armed combat likely evolved quite a bit over the millennia.
Beastin Jay Chattaway and Dennis McCarthy were beasts. Their music reflect that this was a truly dangerous time for the Federation - be it the home of Federation space (late "TNG," "DS9") or a lost ship on the other side of the galaxy ("Voyager," although "TNG" did this in "Where no one has Gone Before"). New more advanced enemies like the Cardassians, and later on the Dominion. And then 2 years later after this episode, the USS Voyagers get flung into the Delta Quadrant by the Caretaker. And they were in danger every episode. And pre-"First Contact"/pre-"Voyager," the big kingpin - the Borg were truly dangerous enemy. Although the militancy is more about the enemies who were biological. More advanced biological enemies (Cardassians, Dominion, Jem'Hadar, Changelings, renegade Borg under Lore) are more dangerous than the Collective, because they're merciless. The Borg may be a truly terrifying force but they're impersonal and don't care for pettiness.
Even the greatest of humans or in this case, klingon humanoid, from the history books or tales of old were mere mortals. Their extraordinary actions in life, which may elevate them to godlike status through the ages by their people, does not mean they were invulnerable or immortal.
Seamus O’Reilly in another lifetime…as a Klingon! (If you know, you know)
Even if you forget his lack of fighting ability, this Kahless doesn’t seem that impressive.
To be fair, in 15 centuries there could have been lots of advancement in martial arts.
Hey - Thats the best Batman you are talking about.
@@cernstormrunner7263 You’re thinking of Kevin Conroy. This is Kevin Conway. 😁
Unless you meant that as a joke. 👍🏼
@@September2004 my mistake
Might be a physical clone of Kahless, but cannot replicate the personality or strength of the historical Kahless.
Klingons back in the day of Kaless just stood in place and stabbed each other until one dropped. He was the greatest warrior because he invented blocking.
Fake Klingon Jesus comes back in TNG and it's never mentioned in Star Trek after this episode. WTH?
He gets mentioned a couple times in DS9, in Way of the Warrior worf mentions he opposed the war initiative against Cardassia but was ignored and in Sword of Kahless in regards to returning the legendary sword to him
Klingon jesus was probably killed in the dominion war 😂😂😂😂
@@hawkstringfellow Actually, according to the IDW comics, he got a wild hare up his ass and went full Gorr the God-Butcher on all the deities of Star Trek. Gary Mitchell, Trelane, and even Crystalline Entities all wind up dead due to Kahless's rampage. Oh, and Worf's son joined him.
@@LordSiravant Meh. He should have been Space Pope.
I felt like gorwon when I used to go to church 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂