Goku and Vegeta WENT TO WAR (Fight Analysis)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 มิ.ย. 2024
- We're covering one of the all-time best fights in anime history. Hit for hit.
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Chapters:
00:00 Ground Rules
01:08 Round 1
05:03 Round 2
09:45 Round 3
12:48 Round 4
14:01 Addressing Controversies - บันเทิง
One of the most brutal fights in the series. Vegeta was a monster in this fight, the guy would just not stay down
The man was the definition of a dawg in this fight.
Vegeta was fighting for his Pride and Honor. Ain't no way he was going down easy! Even Majin Buu couldn't keep the Prince down because he kept getting back up!
To me everything went downhill after the Sayain arc and kept getting worse with each successive arc. By the time of the Boo arc it was painfully obvious Toriyama was a shadow of his former self. Barely anything in that arc makes any sense or ever goes anywhere.
That's why he was and is my favorite character. He was clever, underhanded, and he had insane willpower. The guy could "do this all day" like Captain America.
When I was. Kid watching this fight, I was astonished by the amount of willpower buddy had. I saw him take down Goku after getting hit directly on by a KKx4 Kamehameha. He gets his tail chopped off, reverting to his original form while getting jumped by the 3 chumps, TANKING a spirit bomb (which did lose some off its power but still guys), and going head to head with oozru Gohan!
Then he STILL got back up when Krillin called him ugly!!
@@revalier3670there’s a reason why this got no likes
I’m convinced that this is the peak of all dragonball. Just look at that animation, so high quality; the animation in the hair, everything. They went all out here
Yea, unfortunately Toriyama really didn't wanna continue after Freeza so it became pretty dumb and convoluted
I think Namek was absolute peak DBZ, the saiyan origins and the build up to Frieza's power and the Legendary Super Saiyan Form.
Android and Cell were also really good, especially because it was the culmination of the foreshadowing of Gohan having some hidden power, something they were doing since the very first episode.
After that, Buu arc and everything beyond to me is just lower quality product. Gohan should've went on as the main character and even if he didn't and Goku did come back, the writing was really dumbed down and shit quality.
With Gohan as the main character I could see Vegeta still having an interesting redemption arc forgiving himself for his past mistakes and becoming a true fighter. And other guys staying a bit more relevant which was always fun to see.
@@starfox300 hey the cell saga was good
@@brainfreezzzze6900 Its okay, not as solid as the arcs prior, too many scenes i dont like in the cell saga, android 18 not running, piccilo not killing first form cell, vegeta not killing cell, too many antagonist and none of them were built up like freeza
@@starfox300All the other sagas were good. Some parts were like dumb, but the story genuinely was good. Even if it has flaws like “Goku could’ve killed Majin Buu in SSJ3 Before he transformed” or some other example like “Why didn’t Vegeta kill semi-perfect cell?” But the saga is good anyway. Also I would use Gohan vs Super Buu as an example, but, that is a easy explanation. Due to the fact that Gohan was arrogant during the fight and he was too confident, this was more shown during the Buuhan vs Vegito fight since Buuhan has the intelligence of piccolo, but the personality of Gohan and also Gotenks.
Yeah Oozaru ain’t cheating. Vegeta made weigh in. There are no rules against gaining weight mid match
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Yes it is "cheating", Vegeta knew that Goku didn't have his tail. Also, do you consider that Vegeta was already the strongest of Frieza's army, stronger than the Ginyu forces when he arrived on earth with Nappa ?
@oli-qn4ge He wasn't, though? Any of the Ginyu force would have Neg diffed Saiyan saga Vegeta
@@tristanpelkey9109 maybe he’s talking about the great ape?
@Chillbro740 While the great ape would put Vegeta over the Ginyu's they wouldn't let him get to that state anyhow. Plus their teamwork is good enough I'm sure they could just cut off the tale quick and kill him
I'm not usually the type of person to like this kind of content, but I legit think you could turn this into a series and I'd keep watching.
I subbed for the series
I agree with you completely lol
Then why did you click on the video.
Honestly I'd say this entire fight is probably one of my favorite parts of dbz. Vegeta is above everyone we have met up to now but he's not so unreachable that goku can't make up the difference with kaioken. It was the perfect use of power levels
Raditz was also pretty good with how goku and piccolo had to be clever around his power and use knowledge they already Gained through experience to take him down but raditz uses his brain as well to feed off of gokus good heart to regain the advantage.
Honestly saiyan saga was fantastic all around
So true about how the power gap was big but not TOO big. It made for a really good back and forth
@@SensibleSaiyan yeah and DBZ managed to do power levels well overall here. The saibamen show the group got better than raditz then nappa was a beast where even their ultimate attacks couldn't do a thing.
This then made Goku just feel like the world's last hope that made the win on Vegeta even more powerful at the end. Saw it a few months ago and I was just enjoying every second.
For me Saiyan Saga is peak Dragonball. The animation and fight choreography, the violence. Perfection.
Kaio-what?
really, that is how it's always been. very rarely has goku ever been stronger than his opponent. and it's pretty much never happened after OG DB ended. he's always the underdog.
For an arc where Goku dies, comes back to life and loses the battle at end it sure is one the best in the series
Goku got wrecked by Vegeta, no doubt about it. If it weren’t for Gohan and Krillin the series would have ended
Just for frieza to be 10,000 times stronger
Because Vegeta got humbled so hard in the fight that he treated it as a loss even though he won. Getting jumped to near death by his friends later and having to run away, surviving only because Goku told Krillin to spare him didn't help.
One small note. Goku wouldn't have been able to control his Giant Ape form anyways. While Vegeta seemed to have total mastery of it (while having absurd agility). So that potential matchup would have gone very pear shaped.
Yup. Vegeta wouldn’t been way stronger ape vs ape and he would’ve been fighting a 10-IQ Goku 😂
Goku didn't have his tail. Yes Oozaru is "cheating", Raditz and Nappa could probably control their ape form too, so what ? The biggest challenge is to increase your power by multiplying it by 10, with zero drawback, no stamina or speed issues.Being able to stay conscious while in that form, is not a big deal for a pure saiyan who evolved with other saiyans
@@oli-qn4ge This simply isn't true, Vegeta was likely the only one who could control his ape form as a super elite.
@@tristanpelkey9109 But the saiyans used to work for Frieza by providing him planets after having decimated its inhabitants.They had to respect a deadline to do so, and if there were too many residents on the panet
and that the saiyans were short on time, the saiyans could use the great ape form to get rid of the population faster, while being careful to not damage the planet too much, so that it could keep its value. So that means that all the saiyans were likely able to control themselves while being in great ape form, it was not some Vegeta's privilege or special ability..
@@oli-qn4ge This is why people say Dragon Ball fans don't watch their own show lmao. Vegeta states that literally only elite saiyans can control themselves in their Oozaru form
The beam struggle in this fight is truly one of those lighting in a bottle moments never to be replicated in anime. The tension was so insane it felt like you were right there blood vessels popping and all.
The beam struggle really don't get talked about enough by enough people
We got Vegeta reeling so bad that he's prolly not even sure if he can keep getting hit this bad with the fight at its current pace so he goes for what he thinks should be his hail mary play in daring Goku into a match of ki levels which he's only marginally sure he'll win out
Then we got Goku feeling more exhausted than he ever has in his life from what an absolute number the Kaioken is doing to his muscles, to the point he ain't even sure if his body can withstand the ki surge of trying to match this guy's beam
Both of them know if they undercharge the shot they'll get overtaken but if they fire too late, they'll take the hit, and in Goku's case so will the planet. Absolute high noon standoff moment where it's a matter of who draws first likely deciding the fight, and neither side is sure they can win even with their all
Goku making the last-second call to go x4 was easily his craziest play of the whole fight since he had no way of knowing if his body wouldn't just combust and defuse the entire Kamkehameha, and it immediately went from a smooth beam to a straight-up water hose of ki practically spraying all over with Goku barely managing to keep it aimed right
If Vegeta had let go of his Galick Gun right then he'd have prolly been able to get out of the way and countered. But the man just _had_ to keep trying to push it back when it was obvious he was about to lose the clash he asked for. That split-second of pride and absolute shock that Goku was hiding yet another level cost him hard
You just don't get tension like that anymore
The x4 kaioken Kamehameha was also done in the worlds strongest movie going in a beam clash with dr Wheelo, and Goku is nearly overtaken. however in the ocean dub, Peter Kelamis screams power up and it just sends chills down the spine.
it's crazy that Vegeta's character development was sparked by this fight and wanting to beat Goku, but technically Vegeta has won every time they've fought.
He probably tells himself that every day. I always took it as, “That fight was fucking awesome, let’s do it again”. It takes him a looooong time to admit that out loud. He loves Goku and their fights
Technical wins in Vegeta's mind are losses. That's why he killed Napa. He grew up a child prodigy and elite at fighting and typically mops his opponents until arrive on earth. When someone is stronger than him or close it scared him (Broly, Frieza). Goku is used to the technical win because he goes against stronger and stronger people each time but also had no intention of killing or even dominating Vegeta so based on his mentality he won cause he had a good fight and saved earth
@@kpimkpim349 Goku is a crumpled mess your mental gymnastics are wilder than the Ginyu Force's poses bro. 1-0 Vegeta here
@@Mark-ly4lq3-0 cope dickshiner
Not technically. He won all fights. Even in the Majin Vegeta vs. SSJ2 Goku fight. Just because Goku chose not to use SSJ3 doesnt fault Vegeta he still handled that business and won. That's why it's always misleading when people make it as if Vegeta is a loser to Goku.
Man that punch to the gut by Goku was crazy
It was so clean
@@SensibleSaiyanI still think the Goku gut punch to Piccolo Jr was more severe, but this one is pretty saucy too.
Heavy stamina break
That analysis was fire. Legit helped me noticing things I've never realized before in this fight, even after watching it countless times. Also, great narration. Won yourself a subscriber!
Welcome to the channel my friend
Commentary is on-point, Dragon ball Joe Rogan - more breakdown videos, quick!
I've seen lots of anime , this is still the greatest fight out of all of them , the narrative going into this fight , the shift in the genre , the fight itself , it started as a competitive 1v1, then it became an even more competitive 4v1.
Vegeta showed so much heart , cardio and determination in this fight.
This battle was insane. More insane now than I remember as a kid.
Goku showing how a protagonist can push passed their limits just to keep up and all the tricks and moves he used.
Them the Gohan krillin and yajirobi support was even more fire to see how every little bit came together to defeat Vegeta.
Plus If Vegeta didn't play around he could have won easily. Heck win if and nappa just ended everyone before Goku got there showing his pride really did him in.
It really was one of the very best battles in DBZ. They had to throw everything but the kitchen sink at Vegeta to beat him. The resilience he showed was next level
@@SensibleSaiyan yeah and it's probably the fight I tell people to rewatch and pay attention to when they think DBZ is what started the drop of shounen quality
I'd be more happy if more shounen stories had this level of skill and power balance that make every little attack you get feel like a victory and every counter win or lose.
Freeza is a close second but the Saiyan form came after krillin was gone while kaioken and every skill we see was already established throughout the Saiyan saga.
Nah I'd disagree with the last point. They probably would have made Goku turn Super Saiyan early or given Goku an even greater rage boost.
@@SensibleSaiyanwhats wild to me is how even after the intense battle, you could argue vegeta wasn’t as badly damaged as the rest of them, the major damage he took was tanked a times 4 kamehameha and then getting crushed by gohan
We say Goku is the father of anime another proof
“deku i need to push pass my limit”
“Asta I need to push pass my limit “
Goku pushing past his limit inspiring other creators
That thumbnail had me rolling🤣
I knew someone would appreciate the Herb Dean the thumbnail 😂
@@SensibleSaiyan is that why he didn't stop the fight even though goku almost died? Herb dean's fault 😂
@@rgual7513 lmaooo Herb Dean with the late stoppage
Vegeta was a pure menace. Even after all Of the hits he took, he still had stamina and power to keep going after getting battered that much. Much respect to the Prince of all saiyans!
This fight kickstarts one of the most legendary rivalries in the whole manga/anime world
No matter what, I will always answer the question, " What was the Best Fight in Dragon Ball/Anime?" with "Goku vs. Vegeta, Saiyan Saga" THE G.O.A.T!!!
Tell em!
Vegeta: “I’m surrounded by idiots.”
Goku: “I thought you were surrounded by gumdrops and ice cream?”
Vegeta: “AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!”
Split second false super Saiyan right there
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most unbiased analysis I've seen!
Great video and incredibly entertaining lol. I've neveer understood the "Goku is better/Vegeta is better" argument, since they're clearly far more interesting when they can bounce off eachother. They make each other better characters through their interactions.
Man I love this comment. If only more people thought the same way
The cuts to Tyson killed me bro 🤣🤣
Still to this day this fight gives me chills. More so now after seeing Goku stay one step ahead of Vegeta at all times. And it all comes back to that damned Kaioken. No matter how close Vegeta gets, Goku will always have that ace up his ass.
They don’t make fights like this anymore perfect blend of fists and blasts
I loved this video. no stupid power scaling nonsense, just pure skills and a couple tricks. and my mans got the vibes, too. i should check out some more of your videos.
You should watch OG Dragonball then if you haven’t
@@Austin.Kilgore OG DB is my favorite.
@@omarfelix5287 Mine too!
Only 3 years show @@omarfelix5287
This channel is partly responsible for inspiring me to train again.
I love to hear that, man!
What makes DBZ fights crazy is the range: they go from exchanging ki blasts from hundreds of metres of distance to grappling distance in instants, not to mention that a fight might start in a city and end in another. It's like having a cross between UFC fighters and fighter jets.
man what can i say this is fr the best of both worlds bro put dragon ball into mma format fr ive never seen a better combination for late night vid
Glad you liked it man
I absolutely love this round/point breakdown. I hope you do more DBZ or anime fight reviews like this.
When I was a kid sprinting home to watch this show after school, even my Dad (a real stick in the mud sometimes) was like “oh shit”when this fight was on
1 v 1, Goku lost. 4 v 1, Goku and friends won barely. At the teeth of their skin, they won just barely.
Rewatching DBZ this fight was crazier than I remember it as a kid
Goated video. People really underrate vegeta's combat skill, thinking he didn't train and lived easy his whole life, relying only on raw power
They’re just parroting narratives. They haven’t actually payed attention during any of his fights
@@SensibleSaiyan Mean Vegeta is the best Vegeta. His tricks against Freeza's minions are also super cool to see
Vegeta is technical fighter
The fact that Vegeta can walk after this fight is a testament to Vegeta's tenacity and Frieza's medicare package. Goku was trying to put this man in a wheelchair just like he did Nappa.
Frieza’s Medicare package 😂
I feel like the fact their healing pods were able to heal a diced up Freeza means they could have healed Nappa's back. Vegeta was just disgusted by his weakness and trying to guard a cripple in a fight would handicap him.
This fight was the culmination of Dragon Ball's time as a martial arts manga. You'll notice that Goku gets increasingly injured and incapacitated as his fights develop: against King Piccolo, Goku has an arm and his legs mangled, so he's able to win the fight solely with one arm. Against Piccolo Jr., Goku becomes completely incapacitated, only winning the fight by flying behind Piccolo and headbutting him in the gut, knocking him out of the ring. In this fight with Vegeta though, this is the first and only time Goku is pushed to his complete physical limit, and can simply no longer fight. Without Gohan, Krillin and Yajirobe, Goku would've died. Of course, Goku did push Vegeta to using the Oozaru, but after Goku used the x4 Kaio-ken, the fight was probably over for him anyway. Vegeta was simply stronger. After this, Dragon Ball develops more along the line of power scaling than martial arts technique, but this is the time in the series where that transition first began, and in many ways, it was the perfect melding of the two. I can understand easily why this is so many peoples' favourite fight in the series.
Crazy to think that Goku was in intense pain from a simple slap. Couldn’t imagine how he felt after every single hit he took from Vegeta in the Oozaru form
This... This is just facts. The fight that i find myself returning to it's just that good.
But to be honest... The ssj goku vs frieza was my start to DBZ in general.
I’m probably gonna cover that fight in the future too!
@@SensibleSaiyan btw Can i use this video for a reaction i will credit and if you don't want to i understand i just want to show my thanks and respect for your hardwork via a video.
This is an amazing video, the commentary, the humor and rythem of it all. Not to mention how it’s in depth and easy to understand. Can’t wait for more!
I never knew there was so much advanced tactics to these fights honestly.
4:40 Look at the effects on those ki blasts, too. The animators wanted you to know that Vegeta was throwing straight FIRE at Goku
please continue to do these fight breakdowns for dragon ball, this was sick ngl.
This was an incredibly slick break down. I loved how you showed off each and every move.
bro keep doing this it’s such a refresher from the training camps (not saying that they bad i like them)
I’m gonna keep doing both. It’s refreshing for me too making multiple types of content
One of the best analysis' I've seen of this fight yet. Pretty much on par with totally not mark's, just for different things
You’re the first channel to break down this fight in this manner with UFC rounds, scoring, and real striking techniques too. Really appreciate this as a fight fan myself
11:35 THE ANIMATION!! That mouth beam looked like a horizontal nuclear blast
Now I want to see you do soo many other fight analysis in this style man, it's soo good!
Ichigo vs Zaraki, Goku vs Kid Buu, Kakashi vs Obito, Naruto vs Sasuke (part one or Shippuden, either or), All might vs All for One.
You’ll see plenty more!
I saw this fight a million times and remember it blow for blow, yet your breakdown made it even more engaging. Great video!
"Spinal"😂😂 that got me good 6:20
Excellent analysis. Bold take to give Vegeta the W. Even hardcore super fans often who dominate DBZ YT content space lack critical thinking to give fresh takes on this material. Your logic, breakdown and delivery is amazing keep up the good work!
Thanks man, I appreciate it
The fight commentary was awesome bro ❤
This is very entertaining to watch bro , bravo 👏🏾
Magnificent breakdown! 👏👏
Love these types of videos
What a break down, I didn't realize all the small facial expressions even after watching the series multiple times. Awesome video!
Bro killer fight analysis. Looking forward to more of this content. As someone who calls fights on stream IRL, I never thought to do this nor did I know I needed this content. Thanks mate. Keep it up
Thanks man! I will
Amazing analysis and video! Keep it up!
Bro this was entertaining as hell dude. Earned a sub
This the best fight to me we got a lil bit of everything in it!! Great video fam
I can't wait for more of these man I'm hyped
Favorite fight from back in the day. Great video by the way, was a lot of fun watching it.
I don't watch combat sports much but this way of analysing the fight was so fun to watch, hope this becomes a series. It'd probably work really well for Dragon Ball fights even moreso than DBZ.
This is fantastic. Gotta give props when they’re due. I’ll sub for more content like this
Amazing video, enjoyed the break down and analysis of the fight with the score cards, I would love to see more of these videos in the future.
Thanks man! Plenty more to come
I am watching liking and sharing to my friends all of your videos after this. The algorithm has found you my man
Love this vid bro, keep it up!
Bros foot coming off the ground as he increased kaioken for the beam struggle was a nice little touch. Easily one of my favorite fights in any form of media
I love this fight so much already and now I get to see it in a new light? In a new way? I love the breakdown so much and how much more technical this battle really was! Really shows the knowledge and skill of both fighters of one of THE best fights in Dragon Ball ever.
Great analysis 🔥
Thx for the breakdown My DB G. I've seen this fight 100 times and you pointed out some things I hadn't noticed.💪🏾
your commentary is super entertaining, keep making more of these man!
Thanks, will do!
Perfecto Video Bro, I recomend you to make more of this type👍
I love this concept of videos
One of the best DBZ youtube videos i have ever seen. Congrats
Thanks man! That’s a huge compliment
Great analysis man. Great use of manga references, fantastic use of edits in production. Just wanted to acknowledge the work you put into this
I appreciate that my friend
This was peak content 😂😂 had to subscribe my boy
Great video man I love it!
Great video and analysis
Great Videos
Love these videos. Do HIT and Goku next !
Clean! Keep going with the videos
Goku won the ideological battle. The very fact that he, a commoner, was able to push the prince of all saiyans far enough to use his great ape form already shattered Vegeta's elitist mentality, but undeniably Vegeta got the W overall.
Bro i cant believe you dont have 1 million subs
Bro this is such an elite video 🔥🔥Great editing, commentary and creative af. Props to you man
Thanks man! I appreciate it
This is a pretty cool and fun video. I’d love to see this turn into a series or cover the Majin Vegeta vs Goku fight in a similar style lol.
I love the video breakdown 10/10
these vids are great
This is very fun to watch. This was the best fight of the whole show.
The impacts and chaos is what i love
This thumbnail is everything fam 😂
Bro I didn’t know a dragon /anime analysis TH-camr existed ,you the goat🔥
you have a good concept going on. i would like to see more training arc breakdowns
And you will. I got another training breakdown coming up next
Anime channel, Elite commentary, incredible battle analysis, ANNNND BIBLE VERSE AT THE END OF THE VIDEO!? You just earned yourself another subscriber my brother
My man 😎. Glad to have you here
Pagan verse you mean??
Bro your narration of this fight has me so hyped can’t wait to watch major vegeta vs Goku if you do it
This Video was very well done Bro. Well done 👍🏿🏆
Thanks bro I appreciate it
Actually insane run down. Great work
Thank you!
Sir, this was so enjoyable to watch. I agree on so many points.
Great video, do more like this.
Good video and concept
Amazing video
This was a really good video. I hope you continue more fight analysis like vs frieza or kid buu
Beautiful channel man. I just hope you won't run out of ideas when you'll have reviewed all fights worth to be reviewed.
Love also the sentences from the bible at the end of your vids, beautiful job