I agree. With timecode, synchronization between multiple camera views becomes possible. There is software that does that sort of thing. Works with GoPro 12 & 13. Maybe DJI will add timecode to a new version or as an update of some sort. The name of that software is Multi-View HD Pro 2. It's from FutureVideo.
I'm specifically looking for action cameras for diving, and the water pressure sensor feature sounds fantastic but probably is only available when not using the dive case. However, good light performance and 10-bit video capabilities are crucial for underwater video. The Insta360 Ace Pro performed better underwater on the previous action cam generation, so I'm curious to see how it compares this year!
So I love my action 4. I was hoping for the 1 inch sensor from the pocket 3 but the 40mp sensor has me interested. The action 4 was great in every way except for photos (yes I know it’s not a photo camera). But if that new 40mp makes the photos better then I’ll be all in. I can’t wait to see what it does.
You forgot to mention that it will have 3 internal mics capable of stereo and mono recording for even further improved audio which was already miles better on the action 4 than on any gopro. If the 13.5 stops of dynamic range is true, which it should be since its illegal to lie about specifications, its gonna be pretty insane given that action 4 maxed out at 10.5 in d log m and many full sized cameras hover around 12 and 13 stops. Not being 360 stabilised is a bummer. GPS i dont care for much in all honesty. Im almost certain than any true sport enthusiast has a smart watch for heart rate and calorie tracking anyways so shouldn't be too much of an issue if it you can add it in post. Its now able to record 4k 4:3 in 120 fps, action 4 could only go to 60fps in 4:3. What remains to be seen this is how that dynamic range looks in real world scenarios, colours have always been great thanks to that colour temperature monitor on the front and obviously, can they at least match the ace pro 1 in low light. Cant wait for actual reviews and comparisons to start
no not really, i would have really liked gps since theres no watch on an fpv drone and on for example mtb i dont personaly wear a watch because even 50g will destroy my arm that i cant ride anymore
I wonder if that has anything to do with the rumor that it will be able to directly connect to dji mic 2. Not by bluetooth. Maybe thats a separate thing but thats huge like huge for people using these in all year weather and recording audio.
"illegal to lie about specifications" doesn't mean anything when discussing "leaks", hearsay, rumors, non-official claims and/or any comments not backed with official sources
@@Perckq leaks come from Igor bogdanov, he is more of an official leaker than than what you would typically hear, he has direct contact with DJI employes and serves as a hypeman, he doesn't disclose information unless he gets the green light from DJI. Thus all of his Information is legit, reliable and planned ahead. Btw, these leaks are taken from the user manual of the action 5, it's direct Information that you get when you purchase the camera itself. None of it is speculation
@@Perckq leaks come from Igor bogdanov, he is more of an official leaker than than what you would typically hear, he has direct contact with DJI employes and serves as a hypeman, he doesn't disclose information unless he gets the green light from DJI. Thus all of his Information is legit, reliable and planned ahead. Btw, these leaks are taken from the user manual of the action 5, these are direct features and specs of the camera. It's very legit
THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO!!! Been looking for someone to tell us what’s happening with the action 5! Now we have a release date!! Woooo!! Can’t wait now!
yeah i am guessing it is a 10mp 4x stacked sensor we have seen this before with 12mp 4x stacked sensor making 48mp in there drones i am hoping low light mode will turn this off and ignore 30mp leaving a 10mp readable just a guess though if not then low light will be terrible
I noticed something strange, how can they have a 40 mpx sensor and not add the lossless zoom option like Ace Pro did? the dji lens is so wide that sometimes it would be nice to be able to use dewarp, but 1.5x and 2x
Very informative video. I have been waiting for the specs before making the switch from the GoPro ecosystem. That depends on if it will it support (2) dji mic 2 connections at the same time like the pocket 3 does. Not sure if I missed it, but I didn't hear you cover that. Would love to know. Thanks.
I am going to buy the action 5 pro as my first action camera. Is there a way to just shoot video in auto mode ? If so, is the video good enough ? Does auto mode shoot in 10 bit? Not worry about too much with the camera doing most ofnthe heavy lifting. I don't mind setting the exposure comp and lifting it up in post.
I was hoping to replace my perfectly usable original action camera with a price reduced 3 or 4 or buy a refurbished unit whenever they get in stock wonder how heavy the 5 will be. Heavy I would imagine with bigger battery and less discreet than what I have an use
@@markr041 Yeah I know that’s the only thing I’m trying to wrap my head around.. Like if it doesn’t have any effect of the battery then why get rid of it? Surely having GPS affects something right?
@Brodzzzzz I think you are correct that it puts an extra load on the battery. The Hero 13 now has a more efficient and bigger battery compared to earlier models. Batteries are cheap and small, so it seems to me dumping GPS is a mistake.
@@markr041 I’m guessing that leaving the GPS out of the action 5 will make it last 4 hours as they say ya know? It’s like… do you want an action camera to last much longer or ya want gps? I know what I want 😂
A 1 inch sensor would create depth of field issues too I imagine, action camera users have typically needed the 'everything in focus' feature. A 1 inch sensor would need a higher f stop to compensate, then we'd lose light. Dilemma for GoPro and DJI etc...
@@scooteractual They didn't put one in their 'ace' and 'ace pro' models, just the 360. Will be interesting if the next iterations includes a 1 inch sensor. I could be wayyy wrong on my thinking, but the technology exists ro allow gopro/DJI to do it, they haven't for some reason
@@neilwildy4192 I agree this wasn’t something they couldn’t do, I think it was just going to be too expensive for the market and to rival the GP13 maybe?
A Galaxy S9 or 10 had real 960fps slowmo 6 years ago ... Of course this creates huge bitrates, far too much for any sd-card, but with this big internal mem it should've been possible. What I'm missing most compared to GoPro is that it doesn't have external Bluetooth control e.g. to wake up the cam from a distance. Don't want to by a DJI remote either. Why don't they just make it compatible with any cheap Bluetooth camera button device coming with most selfie sticks?
Mmm internal memory… that goes well for newer phones. Made to pay more for increased internal memory, after removing SD slot, then pushing their cloud that GoPro already relentlessly do
Shame the apps are always shady like not in Play store and manual install and weirdness. Interpolated slow motion is trash. My Sony did 960fps like 5 years ago. LOLOL KEKW
Pretty sure what you are talking about about is frame generation. There are AI PC programs that can do it. It's cool for like 30 up to 60, with the sort of slow 950 implies though I don't know how that will end up. Probably looks ok though.
sold my gopro and waiting for this osmo5. never had any dji. can you tell me about connection with android, does that work okay? does the app work good with android?
Clearly you don’t understand what is d-log preview for and the reason for shooting in d-log. 1. It is for monitoring while shooting the video, you couldn’t clearly see flat picture on the display. 2. People shoot in d-log for custom editing and/or luts. There is no point to shoot d-log and to convert it later into standard profile.
I record my bike rides and my last few vids Ive found the gps overlays using my Android phone and Insta360X4 very useful. I dont think Id buy another camera without it!!
Based on the current "Leaks" there's not enough to make me buy one since the Action 4 does everything I want including GPS with the remote. Once we get the full scoop I may buy one but I think the Pocket 3 would give me more options and something new in addition to the A4.
@@OmniVisionElite you say only 9.8 mp but 4k is 8.3 mp so it is just fine if they increase mp then we get worse low light all for slightly better photos with don't seem worth it to me cuz who is taking photos on P3 any way
Well I was hoping they were bringing inbuilt GPS and Bluetooth input to the OA5, but the lack of that (as I want to keep the waterproof abilities) I feel I'll be going with a Hero13 on account of the built in GPS etc and the new waterproof external power solution
SDcard issues😂, are you serious. Everyone knows one SHOULD use higher datarate SD Cards (preferable Lexar, Sandisk,Samsung or Kingston). Never put a normal SanDisk Sd card in an action camera, never
Who cares about GPS i want to know how the low light works. DJI lead easily over the Hero 12 and even 13 still but need to know if its better than the 4
@FollowTheJohn Apparently, you haven't seen the GoPro 13 heat tests. It's now rated the number one action camera when it comes to overheat protection. They totally refactor their code, and the added heat sink made a big difference.
@@FollowTheJohn @FollowTheJohn Reading comprehension, I wish more people had it. John, I'm going to need you to put on your big boy pants and read my comment again. Now, read it and take it all in. Just slowly sound out the words. I know you can do it. Now, please quote where I said the GoPro 13 didn't overheat. I did say It's now rated the number one action camera when it comes to overheat protection, which is true, but I never said it didn't overheat. It's kind of a big difference there, isn't it.
i don't understand why they keep their native FOV so wide. great for POV but anything else not so much. when will action camera manufacturers understand that we want a narrower field of view to film our buddies wipe out :) . anyhow deal breaker for me
Its an action cam for sports thats why! because you need wide fov to capture all the action. If you want to film anything else you still have 2 fov settings from you can choose.
@@nufobiketrip for POV sure but even then i prefer Gopro's native FOV. for a folllow cam i wish there was a 28 or even 35 mm option which is still plenty wide to capture all the action but looks more cinematic. besides i have a 360 cam for POV action
@@urbanrunoff I prefer dji's fov for pov shotsbecause its not so distorted/curbed on the edges of frame. Gopro hyperview bends the image too much, and for long format videos its a bit dizzy. About 360 cameras, sorry i fuckin hate the looks on all of them, too much distorsion for my taste.
what is wrong with 4k pro cinema cameras like fx6 shoot in "only" 4k, the reason action cameras look bad is not low res it is small sensor and fixed focus
Check out the DJI Osmo Action 5 Pro: geni.us/OA5P (Link updated)
Subscribed! Waiting for the Insta360 Ace Pro 2 video!
Have you heard anything about DJI introducing a mirrorless camera?
How awesome would it be if DJI dropped the 5 pro with a naked/ bones version in like a 5 pro slim for drone FPV?!
Would be nice to see some timcode built-in similar to th GoPro Hero 12 and 13. For multi-cam projects, I find this invaluable.
I agree. With timecode, synchronization between multiple camera views becomes possible. There is software that does that sort of thing. Works with GoPro 12 & 13. Maybe DJI will add timecode to a new version or as an update of some sort. The name of that software is Multi-View HD Pro 2. It's from FutureVideo.
I'm sure I saw this feature in my action 3.
Timecode sync has been available on DJI Osmo lineup since Action 3...
I'm specifically looking for action cameras for diving, and the water pressure sensor feature sounds fantastic but probably is only available when not using the dive case. However, good light performance and 10-bit video capabilities are crucial for underwater video. The Insta360 Ace Pro performed better underwater on the previous action cam generation, so I'm curious to see how it compares this year!
let me know if you get the 5 and use it for diving. I'm also looking to do the same
I'm intrigued to know if it uses the same battery and mounting as the 3 and 4, and if a cage for the 3 or 4 would fit.
prob not with the battery
So I love my action 4. I was hoping for the 1 inch sensor from the pocket 3 but the 40mp sensor has me interested. The action 4 was great in every way except for photos (yes I know it’s not a photo camera). But if that new 40mp makes the photos better then I’ll be all in. I can’t wait to see what it does.
I wonder any improvements for low light/night shots ?
You forgot to mention that it will have 3 internal mics capable of stereo and mono recording for even further improved audio which was already miles better on the action 4 than on any gopro. If the 13.5 stops of dynamic range is true, which it should be since its illegal to lie about specifications, its gonna be pretty insane given that action 4 maxed out at 10.5 in d log m and many full sized cameras hover around 12 and 13 stops.
Not being 360 stabilised is a bummer.
GPS i dont care for much in all honesty. Im almost certain than any true sport enthusiast has a smart watch for heart rate and calorie tracking anyways so shouldn't be too much of an issue if it you can add it in post.
Its now able to record 4k 4:3 in 120 fps, action 4 could only go to 60fps in 4:3.
What remains to be seen this is how that dynamic range looks in real world scenarios, colours have always been great thanks to that colour temperature monitor on the front and obviously, can they at least match the ace pro 1 in low light.
Cant wait for actual reviews and comparisons to start
no not really, i would have really liked gps since theres no watch on an fpv drone and on for example mtb i dont personaly wear a watch because even 50g will destroy my arm that i cant ride anymore
I wonder if that has anything to do with the rumor that it will be able to directly connect to dji mic 2. Not by bluetooth. Maybe thats a separate thing but thats huge like huge for people using these in all year weather and recording audio.
"illegal to lie about specifications" doesn't mean anything when discussing "leaks", hearsay, rumors, non-official claims and/or any comments not backed with official sources
@@Perckq leaks come from Igor bogdanov, he is more of an official leaker than than what you would typically hear, he has direct contact with DJI employes and serves as a hypeman, he doesn't disclose information unless he gets the green light from DJI. Thus all of his Information is legit, reliable and planned ahead.
Btw, these leaks are taken from the user manual of the action 5, it's direct
Information that you get when you purchase the camera itself. None of it is speculation
@@Perckq leaks come from Igor bogdanov, he is more of an official leaker than than what you would typically hear, he has direct contact with DJI employes and serves as a hypeman, he doesn't disclose information unless he gets the green light from DJI. Thus all of his Information is legit, reliable and planned ahead.
Btw, these leaks are taken from the user manual of the action 5, these are direct features and specs of the camera. It's very legit
THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO!!! Been looking for someone to tell us what’s happening with the action 5! Now we have a release date!! Woooo!! Can’t wait now!
What about insta 360 any new camera
I wonder what will happen to its lowlight capability since they've increased the pixel count...
yeah i am guessing it is a 10mp 4x stacked sensor we have seen this before with 12mp 4x stacked sensor making 48mp in there drones i am hoping low light mode will turn this off and ignore 30mp leaving a 10mp readable just a guess though if not then low light will be terrible
@@matthewhedge8955I'm sure they took it into consideration, they are directly competing with the king of low light ace pro after all
its getting exciting... i wonder what 360 has in store for the AcePro2.
I noticed something strange, how can they have a 40 mpx sensor and not add the lossless zoom option like Ace Pro did? the dji lens is so wide that sometimes it would be nice to be able to use dewarp, but 1.5x and 2x
I guess they weren't willing to sacrifice the pixel size
Very informative video. I have been waiting for the specs before making the switch from the GoPro ecosystem. That depends on if it will it support (2) dji mic 2 connections at the same time like the pocket 3 does. Not sure if I missed it, but I didn't hear you cover that. Would love to know.
Thanks.
Yeah that will be so huge for people. High quality audio with out having the camera open and exposed to weather.
Great video 👍👍 Is anywhere the PDF user guide for download? Or only those screenshots from it?
Supposedly being released on September 19
I am going to buy the action 5 pro as my first action camera. Is there a way to just shoot video in auto mode ? If so, is the video good enough ? Does auto mode shoot in 10 bit? Not worry about too much with the camera doing most ofnthe heavy lifting. I don't mind setting the exposure comp and lifting it up in post.
99.99% sure they’ll have an auto mode, i don’t know a camera that doesn’t have an auto mode in this day in age😂 they’re auto mode should be great
I was hoping to replace my perfectly usable original action camera with a price reduced 3 or 4 or buy a refurbished unit whenever they get in stock wonder how heavy the 5 will be. Heavy I would imagine with bigger battery and less discreet than what I have an use
DJI Action 4/5 I think the remote/GPS works with multiple cameras so it is better to have one source of GPS data maybe 🤔
Really good point, although if you had multiple gopros you would have backup options
Nice to meet you!how insane video!;))
Cool mate!
Subscribed!
I got gopro since the 8, given up with 13.. am impressed by acepro 2 leaks, can u keep an eye on that😊
Interpolating frames to claim 960fps is not going to go well for DJI - that’s a horrible move
GPS must smash the battery maybe?
The Hero 13 has GPS.
@@markr041 Yeah I know that’s the only thing I’m trying to wrap my head around.. Like if it doesn’t have any effect of the battery then why get rid of it? Surely having GPS affects something right?
@Brodzzzzz I think you are correct that it puts an extra load on the battery. The Hero 13 now has a more efficient and bigger battery compared to earlier models. Batteries are cheap and small, so it seems to me dumping GPS is a mistake.
@@markr041 I’m guessing that leaving the GPS out of the action 5 will make it last 4 hours as they say ya know? It’s like… do you want an action camera to last much longer or ya want gps? I know what I want 😂
@@markr041hero 13 shut down in 13 minutes for over heating. No way to get go pro. Hope dji improves video quality.
40mp awesome and in another world , I’m still struggling with paying dues
We se a lot of extra FPS but does it really mean much for most people?
Was hoping for a 1 inch. For now, the 13 is my go to choice
Zero chance of a 1"sensor without overheating after 2 minutes.
A 1 inch sensor would create depth of field issues too I imagine, action camera users have typically needed the 'everything in focus' feature. A 1 inch sensor would need a higher f stop to compensate, then we'd lose light.
Dilemma for GoPro and DJI etc...
@@neilwildy4192 how does Insta360 do it?
@@scooteractual They didn't put one in their 'ace' and 'ace pro' models, just the 360. Will be interesting if the next iterations includes a 1 inch sensor.
I could be wayyy wrong on my thinking, but the technology exists ro allow gopro/DJI to do it, they haven't for some reason
@@neilwildy4192 I agree this wasn’t something they couldn’t do, I think it was just going to be too expensive for the market and to rival the GP13 maybe?
I just hope they improve night video in that case I would buy action 5 instead of pocket 3.
A Galaxy S9 or 10 had real 960fps slowmo 6 years ago ... Of course this creates huge bitrates, far too much for any sd-card, but with this big internal mem it should've been possible.
What I'm missing most compared to GoPro is that it doesn't have external Bluetooth control e.g. to wake up the cam from a distance. Don't want to by a DJI remote either. Why don't they just make it compatible with any cheap Bluetooth camera button device coming with most selfie sticks?
We still locked at 1080p30fps on webcam mode...
Mmm internal memory… that goes well for newer phones. Made to pay more for increased internal memory, after removing SD slot, then pushing their cloud that GoPro already relentlessly do
super
Shame the apps are always shady like not in Play store and manual install and weirdness. Interpolated slow motion is trash. My Sony did 960fps like 5 years ago. LOLOL KEKW
But is it an action camera?
No news about low light performance. I'm sure it's gonna be the same jittery picture.
I have heard it should have a super night mode.
@@Hkmughalgaming I hope that mode lets you use it in freeframe mode
Pretty sure what you are talking about about is frame generation. There are AI PC programs that can do it. It's cool for like 30 up to 60, with the sort of slow 950 implies though I don't know how that will end up. Probably looks ok though.
yeah id rather just do it in post on a much better system than a action camera lol
sold my gopro and waiting for this osmo5. never had any dji. can you tell me about connection with android, does that work okay? does the app work good with android?
Super seamless, I have the Action 3 and will be upgrading to the 5. The app picks up the camera so fast and it's very nice.
Osmo pocket 4 pls. We need gimbal action camera
I'm waiting for the Action 6. I hear its gonna be a gamechanger!!
That's what they said with the Action 5
I'll get a video out this time next year 😅
Never buy anything because the next thing is always round the corner and will be miles better.
Gopro 11 has horizont levwlling only 45
It has full 360 horizon lock
Clearly you don’t understand what is d-log preview for and the reason for shooting in d-log. 1. It is for monitoring while shooting the video, you couldn’t clearly see flat picture on the display. 2. People shoot in d-log for custom editing and/or luts. There is no point to shoot d-log and to convert it later into standard profile.
Release date 19 September
Might just get a cheap action 4 now 😂
I record my bike rides and my last few vids Ive found the gps overlays using my Android phone and Insta360X4 very useful. I dont think Id buy another camera without it!!
Real 1080p in 960p would be a amazing feature, but 1080p 240p is just old school.
Based on the current "Leaks" there's not enough to make me buy one since the Action 4 does everything I want including GPS with the remote. Once we get the full scoop I may buy one but I think the Pocket 3 would give me more options and something new in addition to the A4.
Id bet the Osmo Pocket gets and update to model 4 next year and includes many of these new features. Osmo Pocket is only 9.8megapixels.
@@OmniVisionElite you say only 9.8 mp but 4k is 8.3 mp so it is just fine if they increase mp then we get worse low light all for slightly better photos with don't seem worth it to me cuz who is taking photos on P3 any way
DJI all the way
Well I was hoping they were bringing inbuilt GPS and Bluetooth input to the OA5, but the lack of that (as I want to keep the waterproof abilities) I feel I'll be going with a Hero13 on account of the built in GPS etc and the new waterproof external power solution
There's no need for 40 megapixels in a sensor this small.
i know its so dumb
I don't mind it. The sensor is bigger than a phone sensor, so photos should be pretty good.
SDcard issues😂, are you serious. Everyone knows one SHOULD use higher datarate SD Cards (preferable Lexar, Sandisk,Samsung or Kingston). Never put a normal SanDisk Sd card in an action camera, never
Ace pro 2 will have 1 inch sensor I'm betting
im betting it wont unless they add a focuses system witch they probably wont if they still wont it to be very durable would be cool if they do though
Not much difference compared to the Action 4, minus the battery life and 40mp
If it cannot shoot in low light, I will stick with my older action cameras!
Who cares about GPS i want to know how the low light works. DJI lead easily over the Hero 12 and even 13 still but need to know if its better than the 4
who the f needs 960 fps give us a bigger f sensor instead!!!!!
The Action 5 doesnt look like it will be able to keep up with the GoPro 13.
It won't overheat like the 13, 12 and 11, etc. 8-)
@FollowTheJohn Apparently, you haven't seen the GoPro 13 heat tests. It's now rated the number one action camera when it comes to overheat protection. They totally refactor their code, and the added heat sink made a big difference.
@@mtbohana Apparently you don't know I have one and beta-tested it. I have one. I live on the US/MX border and it overheats within 15 minutes!
@@FollowTheJohn Sure.
@@FollowTheJohn @FollowTheJohn Reading comprehension, I wish more people had it.
John, I'm going to need you to put on your big boy pants and read my comment again. Now, read it and take it all in. Just slowly sound out the words. I know you can do it.
Now, please quote where I said the GoPro 13 didn't overheat. I did say It's now rated the number one action camera when it comes to overheat protection, which is true, but I never said it didn't overheat. It's kind of a big difference there, isn't it.
i don't understand why they keep their native FOV so wide. great for POV but anything else not so much. when will action camera manufacturers understand that we want a narrower field of view to film our buddies wipe out :) . anyhow deal breaker for me
Its an action cam for sports thats why! because you need wide fov to capture all the action. If you want to film anything else you still have 2 fov settings from you can choose.
@@nufobiketrip 2 fov settings from you can choose with less quality.
@@nufobiketrip for POV sure but even then i prefer Gopro's native FOV. for a folllow cam i wish there was a 28 or even 35 mm option which is still plenty wide to capture all the action but looks more cinematic. besides i have a 360 cam for POV action
@@urbanrunoff I prefer dji's fov for pov shotsbecause its not so distorted/curbed on the edges of frame. Gopro hyperview bends the image too much, and for long format videos its a bit dizzy. About 360 cameras, sorry i fuckin hate the looks on all of them, too much distorsion for my taste.
No massive upgrade then.
The gopro 13 with its 10 bit footage will be better.
To be clear, dji action has 10bit colour too.
If no improvement in low light then this should not be a competition with insta 369 ace pro. Like GoPro. 🙄
40 mega pixel multiply by 4 like the iphone 16 BASICALLY IT TURNS OUT TO BE A PICTURE OF ONE MEGA PIXEL BIG MARKETING LIES
...240 fps + built in topaz ai interpolation doesnt = 960 imho.... tricksy tricksy tho..
*Not good enough ! 4K resolution cameras were first introduced by Canon in April of 2012 ! The World doesn't need another 4K only resolution camera !*
what is wrong with 4k pro cinema cameras like fx6 shoot in "only" 4k, the reason action cameras look bad is not low res it is small sensor and fixed focus
4K is enough if you are good at holding cameras
@@matthewhedge8955 Nothing. What is wrong with 6K r 8K reslutin cameras ?
@@BestToWonder We've had enough of 4K resolution cameras for 12 years now ! The market has stagnated @ 4K UHD. It's time to move on now.
@@BestToWonder 4k is good, but if you want to reframe your shot or zoom into something, then 4k is trash.