If it were my house, I would have put the filter on the right side of the stairs on the concrete wall. If those stairs ever need to be replaced (or changed), it's going to be a mess dealing with the filter/pipes attached to the stairs.
Just a note I think the filter should have been hung on the back side of the landing so it was more protected and the pipes could have been clamped to the bottom of the landing.
It will work for sure probably would have added a few hangers for stability. I realize the homeowner wanted it on the deck but I think I would have suggested the same mounting option as original but on the right side of the steps. I'm my humble opinion, they just lost a lot of storage under the deck. Plus the wall is a more "permanent" location for future expansion or ADA ramp if needed later in life.
I would of moved it below the “deck” instead of infront where it’s gonna get hit. I think below the deck is better than crawl space as it’s easier to get to but still out of the way.
Slightly under the step with the lines attached to the joists would have been my choice. That way it’s accessible without crawling under the step, and can’t get damaged by something because the step would protect it.
Looking forward to the next drill video especially that deep. I hope you include how the casing gets installed and to what depth. Always enjoy getting notifications of your content.
Since everyone seems to bust your chops all the time, I figured I’d help you out too. Reinforcement bar is called re-bar, not rebarb. Hope this helps make your day. 😉
Why weren't the two horizontal pex pipes coming from the filter secured with clamps? Aren't they going to flop around every time the water comes on? Definitely better where it is now. The old location people would be bumping their knees or hitting if they wanted to bring something large up the steps. I would have put the filter on the right side of the stairs on the concrete wall. It's an eye sore where it is now.
I assume the owner wants it where it's easy to get to and change the filter so the location although not the best would make it easy to access but at least the valves should have been mounted horizontally and clamped to the wood and then the piping should have gone as high up as possible under the deck to an elbow down the wall and to the holes which I assume could not be drilled up much higher. This would have secured the valves and your storage under the stairs would not be obstructed. It's hard when you do a good job and then it needs to change and you have to redo your work but really have to not let the frustration get to you and plan it out as best as possible.
I wasn't going to give my opinion since everyone else had given you their's but then around the 6:45 mark you asked for it, so... I'm a 70 year old man and not getting any younger so mounting it accessible was very wise. I am, however, curious as to why you couldn't run the pipes higher, strapped on the bottom of the porch deck instead of "flying" unsupported through the air?
I'll tell you what! Those looks real good! : ) I have a well and I will be calm if anything brakes because of watching you. Even if I have to call a well guy because I can see it's not so scary now. Thanks.
i would have had the filter put under the porch so it wouldn't ever get hit or damaged and since it is a long time between filter changes it wouldn't be a big deal
So, the contractor should pay to move. The original install is where his customer wanted. Its not up to sub con to confirm install location with contractors, owners, carpenters, design team....that's the GC job. GC contractor should confirm the design location with all affected parties before installation begins. Having said that, I understand giving that if contractor a reg customer. I would want system on wall adjacent to the right of the stair landing at about 48" AFF, or under the home at location close to access. You are a good guy. Wish I had a crew with your work ethic. I would go back to contracting.
Would've left it where it was if I were the home owner. Not in the way of anything in my opinion! Run down the stairs to replace the filter and voila. The new spot is stupid. But you did a great job both ways :D
It looked better in the original location. Unfortunately, the location on the stairs may be problematic in two ways... 1. If the stairs need maintenance or repairs, it could be tricky dealing with the filter. 2. Risk of damage from its location (it's a garage, I assume. A car can bump into it, causing a massive leak. Behind the stairs along the wall under the deck would be better. Near the pressure tank would be ideal, keeping all water lines in the crawlspace and protected, but the homeowner didn't want it that way.
Going under a house to change consumables is a PITA that nobody wants to do. Under the porch thingy would have been the perfect compromise between out of the way and accessibility. Where it was before was in the way and now it's in the way again probably to get smacked with something and broke in a few years.
Yep, Always bad to have to redo a Job where you were Told to Put things .... :-( :-( :-( .... Question.... Why did you have the LONG 'Drop Lines' ????? Why not secure the pipes via an Elbow and secure them Snugly to the Floor Joists under that 'Platform' and only Then do a short 'Drop Line' agains and thru' the wall ..... ???? It just looks so Super Vulnerable the way that it is Now ..... ???? The 2 Ball Valves could be Under the Platform or even right against the Filter ..... I Love watch All your vidclips and Never miss ANY .... Best to You and Yours from ChCh, NZ
first location far better. I would have opted for the other side of the landing before the actual landing itself. Too easy to break things on the landing with very little support possible. Against the cinder block wall much better and safer. However always make the homeowner happy even if they have to pay again...lol They know "best"
You have to make the customer happy doesn't always mean they are right but still you have to please them and redo their goofup to get paid after that the next time is on them !
If I were there home owner I would want it right under that porch on the block wall, or over on the right side. Where it is now is vulnerable to being hit with something depending on what goes in that room. Is it a garage?
Well it will be a trick to change. Location should have been specified in the blueprints. Paid is important along with mental notes you were needlessly cost time get it next time.
Mine used to be like that, air over water, kinda strange setup, little gizmo to add tank air and another to remove to maintain optimal water level in tank.
@@thomasbonse "It's a garage" What is your point? My point is that a landing isn't even necessary or required with an inswing door, so the filter could have just stayed where it was. Too much money I guess!
When I had my well put in I put in a GE whole house filter system it's four and a half inch by 20 filter media will the big blue carbon filter fix my issue my water test was positive for bacteria and will that filter fit my GE filter housing
Faulty logic, unless his well is bloody awful he will change the element 4 times a year at most. Changing it forces him to check the crawl space four times a year also. If that is a problem he needs a handyman on call for a lot of reasons. Nice work, but "stupid is as stupid does"
Filter location was the least of the poor design choices in that area (garage?) Unrelated to the water system--the more you look, the more poor decisions start appearing. Build quality appears decent, decisions about what goes where and how, a bit short-sighted.
Considering that's a garage space, being on the front of that deck in what appears to be a fairly short garage, it's very likely to be hit by a car being parked. Quite frankly the logistics of that landing are the problem and the result of poor engineering and planning on the part of the builder. Yes, this means you're having to accommodate their poor planning (blueprint level poor planning). You were really only left with bad choices between the homeowner and the builder.
Someone will hit that parking the car, won’t be your fault. Let them go a night or two no water before you go back and fix it would be fair I think if you go back at all. Builder’s responsibility he told you to do it wrong
These customers not worth your time....As for your Requested filter Install job, seems the home Owner was your Direct customer giving you Specific install Location instructions....Any lack of Planning by That customer is solely their Problem & any demo/Redo labor--parts cost strictly on them....Hope you charged them for All the labor time (Demo & new filter job install) to date...The "New" customer Location is so obviously Bad again & after they smash it off the Protruding stair landing will no doubt want more Free redo corrections...During building construction jobs, Only work off the official job blueprints & only for the main job contractor....
Personally I would’ve put it under the house. Original & new location could’ve been damaged by the kids playing , or new location hit by a car. Put it right beside tank.
If it were my house, I would have put the filter on the right side of the stairs on the concrete wall. If those stairs ever need to be replaced (or changed), it's going to be a mess dealing with the filter/pipes attached to the stairs.
Should never rot if the inside is kept dry.
@@kylekelly1167 True, but that's not the only reason why someone would remodel.
Exactly. Those pipes hanging in the air look like crap.
Just a note I think the filter should have been hung on the back side of the landing so it was more protected and the pipes could have been clamped to the bottom of the landing.
Owner requested it to be installed in that location. Not much he can do
You said you hate having to redo a good job. Well I hate redoing any job, but at least when I have to redo a good job I get compensated for it.
It will work for sure probably would have added a few hangers for stability. I realize the homeowner wanted it on the deck but I think I would have suggested the same mounting option as original but on the right side of the steps. I'm my humble opinion, they just lost a lot of storage under the deck. Plus the wall is a more "permanent" location for future expansion or ADA ramp if needed later in life.
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I would of moved it below the “deck” instead of infront where it’s gonna get hit. I think below the deck is better than crawl space as it’s easier to get to but still out of the way.
Slightly under the step with the lines attached to the joists would have been my choice. That way it’s accessible without crawling under the step, and can’t get damaged by something because the step would protect it.
I have a saying for homeowners
“First We do it nice but if we have to do it twice it’s double the price”
Well he must not work in that field and never thought twice about. You do Great work no matter where you go. Make a Nice Day of it.🤪
Some people in my area like to put them in easy to get to areas so it's easy to prevent a clogged filter from being the reason for no water.
Looking forward to the next drill video especially that deep. I hope you include how the casing gets installed and to what depth. Always enjoy getting notifications of your content.
Since everyone seems to bust your chops all the time, I figured I’d help you out too.
Reinforcement bar is called re-bar, not rebarb.
Hope this helps make your day. 😉
You do make it look good and time time for details. My builder & plumber just smashed out half the block with a hammer and left a big-ole hole.
looked better in first location!
Great job! Your video quality and editing is great also! Thank you for posting
As soon as he bumps a car into it and break it, he'll be calling you again.
As usual, an excellent job.
Why weren't the two horizontal pex pipes coming from the filter secured with clamps? Aren't they going to flop around every time the water comes on? Definitely better where it is now. The old location people would be bumping their knees or hitting if they wanted to bring something large up the steps. I would have put the filter on the right side of the stairs on the concrete wall. It's an eye sore where it is now.
I totally agree. The porch wasn't built yet when I installed the filter the 1st time. I think it's an eye sore too.
I assume the owner wants it where it's easy to get to and change the filter so the location although not the best would make it easy to access but at least the valves should have been mounted horizontally and clamped to the wood and then the piping should have gone as high up as possible under the deck to an elbow down the wall and to the holes which I assume could not be drilled up much higher. This would have secured the valves and your storage under the stairs would not be obstructed. It's hard when you do a good job and then it needs to change and you have to redo your work but really have to not let the frustration get to you and plan it out as best as possible.
I like it better mounted on the wall. Seems like the pex might need some support under the deck.
I wasn't going to give my opinion since everyone else had given you their's but then around the 6:45 mark you asked for it, so...
I'm a 70 year old man and not getting any younger so mounting it accessible was very wise.
I am, however, curious as to why you couldn't run the pipes higher, strapped on the bottom of the porch deck instead of "flying" unsupported through the air?
Was that NP1 used to seal the holes around the pipe?? One of my favorite sealers... Hands down.
I'll tell you what! Those looks real good! : ) I have a well and I will be calm if anything brakes because of watching you. Even if I have to call a well guy because I can see it's not so scary now. Thanks.
i would have had the filter put under the porch so it wouldn't ever get hit or damaged and since it is a long time between filter changes it wouldn't be a big deal
So, the contractor should pay to move. The original install is where his customer wanted. Its not up to sub con to confirm install location with contractors, owners, carpenters, design team....that's the GC job. GC contractor should confirm the design location with all affected parties before installation begins. Having said that, I understand giving that if contractor a reg customer.
I would want system on wall adjacent to the right of the stair landing at about 48" AFF, or under the home at location close to access. You are a good guy. Wish I had a crew with your work ethic. I would go back to contracting.
Would've left it where it was if I were the home owner. Not in the way of anything in my opinion! Run down the stairs to replace the filter and voila. The new spot is stupid.
But you did a great job both ways :D
It looked better in the original location. Unfortunately, the location on the stairs may be problematic in two ways...
1. If the stairs need maintenance or repairs, it could be tricky dealing with the filter.
2. Risk of damage from its location (it's a garage, I assume. A car can bump into it, causing a massive leak. Behind the stairs along the wall under the deck would be better.
Near the pressure tank would be ideal, keeping all water lines in the crawlspace and protected, but the homeowner didn't want it that way.
The BEST looking place for this would be right next to the pressure tank! (some homeowners???) ha!
I 100% agree. There was plenty of room under the house!. They didn't want to go under there... I did what they asked...twice
Going under a house to change consumables is a PITA that nobody wants to do. Under the porch thingy would have been the perfect compromise between out of the way and accessibility.
Where it was before was in the way and now it's in the way again probably to get smacked with something and broke in a few years.
Yep, Always bad to have to redo a Job where you were Told to Put things .... :-( :-( :-( .... Question.... Why did you have the LONG 'Drop Lines' ????? Why not secure the pipes via an Elbow and secure them Snugly to the Floor Joists under that 'Platform' and only Then do a short 'Drop Line' agains and thru' the wall ..... ???? It just looks so Super Vulnerable the way that it is Now ..... ???? The 2 Ball Valves could be Under the Platform or even right against the Filter ..... I Love watch All your vidclips and Never miss ANY .... Best to You and Yours from ChCh, NZ
first location far better. I would have opted for the other side of the landing before the actual landing itself. Too easy to break things on the landing with very little support possible. Against the cinder block wall much better and safer. However always make the homeowner happy even if they have to pay again...lol They know "best"
You have to make the customer happy doesn't always mean they are right but still you have to please them and redo their goofup to get paid after that the next time is on them !
Why no bypass?
If I were there home owner I would want it right under that porch on the block wall, or over on the right side. Where it is now is vulnerable to being hit with something depending on what goes in that room. Is it a garage?
new place looks better. 😅🙏🏻🙏🏻👌
Awesome video thank you .do you get The water diviner .to find where the best place to drill
The word is rebar, ( reinforcement bar ) not rebarb
Why is the pipe spread out so far instead of just coming our of the filter and into the wall?
Under the deck, or on the other side of the deck instead of on the front of it. Why such long stand pipes off either side of the filter housing?
I'd say under the house.
Also, with the filter being after the tank, how bad does the inside of the tank get?
Well it will be a trick to change. Location should have been specified in the blueprints. Paid is important along with mental notes you were needlessly cost time get it next time.
Do you have videos on tanks that does not have a bladder
Mine used to be like that, air over water, kinda strange setup, little gizmo to add tank air and another to remove to maintain optimal water level in tank.
Basically a set of steps with handrails coming straight into the room was all that was needed
It's a garage, which is also why the filter shouldn't have been in the front side of that landing.
@@thomasbonse "It's a garage" What is your point? My point is that a landing isn't even necessary or required with an inswing door, so the filter could have just stayed where it was. Too much money I guess!
@@buddyroe Being a garage introduces space constraints in order for the garage to be usable with vehicles.
@@thomasbonse 👌
WTH is rebarb lol Its Rebar short for reinforcement bar
When I had my well put in I put in a GE whole house filter system it's four and a half inch by 20 filter media will the big blue carbon filter fix my issue my water test was positive for bacteria and will that filter fit my GE filter housing
Rebarb?
Where are you located at
I guess its true what they say, you can't fix stupid.
If they lived with it the way it was for a couple months, they'd see it was fine there.
I don't think I would attach it to wooden stairs. Those won't last as long as the concrete block, then he will want to move it again!
The filter is way too low it's almost touching the floor. Also the customer is always right
I would have charged extra to move it.
Faulty logic, unless his well is bloody awful he will change the element 4 times a year at most. Changing it forces him to check the crawl space four times a year also. If that is a problem he needs a handyman on call for a lot of reasons. Nice work, but "stupid is as stupid does"
I hope he doesn't call you back and says you put it in the wrong spot again.
Not till after it gets hit by a car.
I would have put the filter under the house
id have it next to the pressure tank... nxt is his car won't fit in the garage because of the filter :))
Pet Peeve of mine when contractors don't clean up after themselves. Pisses me off.
old location but now he can hit it with the car instead of tripping on it!
Filter location was the least of the poor design choices in that area (garage?) Unrelated to the water system--the more you look, the more poor decisions start appearing. Build quality appears decent, decisions about what goes where and how, a bit short-sighted.
I hope you charged them for their mistake !
Under the house
Under the steps
Since it was the home owners mistake I hope you charged them !!!
Considering that's a garage space, being on the front of that deck in what appears to be a fairly short garage, it's very likely to be hit by a car being parked. Quite frankly the logistics of that landing are the problem and the result of poor engineering and planning on the part of the builder. Yes, this means you're having to accommodate their poor planning (blueprint level poor planning). You were really only left with bad choices between the homeowner and the builder.
I would have put it under the house. Seemed high enough.
Under the porch. now it's an eye sore. Nice job but an eye sore. Hope you got paid for doing it the second time.
I totally agree. I didn't like the spot I had to move it to. & yes I charged a little bit extra.
@@h2omechanic at least you’ll make some more money when the homeowner’s kids break the filter housing while playing in the basement.
Maybe, replace the block where the original holes were,and the wood support the filter was supported on, then the owner would be really happy?
Nothing for nothing, the first location impeded the steps. Someone coming down the steps in the dark could potentially catch a foot and create a fall.
L\The second location looks exposed and fragile to me.
Someone will hit that parking the car, won’t be your fault. Let them go a night or two no water before you go back and fix it would be fair I think if you go back at all. Builder’s responsibility he told you to do it wrong
Ought to be under the house IMO
These customers not worth your time....As for your Requested filter Install job, seems the home Owner was your Direct customer giving you Specific install Location instructions....Any lack of Planning by That customer is solely their Problem & any demo/Redo labor--parts cost strictly on them....Hope you charged them for All the labor time (Demo & new filter job install) to date...The "New" customer Location is so obviously Bad again & after they smash it off the Protruding stair landing will no doubt want more Free redo corrections...During building construction jobs, Only work off the official job blueprints & only for the main job contractor....
charge him twice. not your fault
Do the job twice get paid twice..... I hope.
I would fire whoever did the AC duct in that house it looks like crap
Personally I would’ve put it under the house. Original & new location could’ve been damaged by the kids playing , or new location hit by a car. Put it right beside tank.
That filter will get hit by lawnmowers and bicycles all the time
Not one of them looked good... should be to the right out of the way. Where it is it's going to be hit and damaged... but that's me.
Under the house