2017 Honda Civic Hatchback 1.5T Sport 6-Speed - One Take
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This is the all-new Honda Civic Hatchback Sport, and it's 1.5L Turbocharged engine with 6-speed manual transmission, the first time Honda has offered that combination on our shores. It has the same wheelbase, width, and roughly the same low weight as the Civic sedan and coupe, and the sport trim gives you aggressive bodywork, blacked out wheels, and the optional six speed. What we find is that it's very easy to drive, efficient, reasonably fun, and offers the space of a Focus or Jetta at the price, and weight, of a Fiesta.
Honda provided the car, insurance, and a tank of gas for this review.
I love that Honda doesn't put stupid giant plastic engine covers on their cars.
Simon Coles you should see the cover on my 911. You can't see any engine at all.
Simon Coles Lexus is the worst. Even the fluids are covered with a plastic sheet
Simon Coles don't like it, pull it off. usually that's to reduce noise and make it look better. the one on my vw cc is just over the head. on the under side it sound proofing or whatever you want to call it. it literally pulls off in 5secs. some cars might be mounted on with a few screw's like my old gti but still could have it off in maybe 2mins. I prefer them on there with cars switching to direct injection
its there to reduce injector ticking noise with DI cars. especially americans complain about that noise, claiming it sounds like a diesel. i'd rather have it than not
As a 2016 civic owner, personally i would take the engine cover if it meant getting rid of the shitty brush guard. That thing is a pain in the ass
vtec kicked in, yo?
nah, turbo kicked in... yo.
As he slowly crossed 30mph under boost, he took a quick vape...
[someone finish this story]
in his golf gti flapping off through the gears like a tool.
Noticed he is still on empty, sub woofers pounding away...
no vtec in the 1.5l turbo civic
1.5 vtc only 1.0 has vtec on intake
It's been 4 years since I purchased my Civic. Originally coming from an Acura RSX, I naturally wanted an si coupe but was itching for extra space I had from a ford explorer I used to own. The hatchback seemed to meet the best of both worlds for me, so I got the sport hatch with the 1.5 turbo and 6 speed manual.
I'm sitting around 68k miles and the car has had no reliability issues whatsoever. I have taken it on many multi-state trips over 1,000 miles each and the car eats it up no problem with decent economy. The car has only been to the tire shop and a mechanic once for brakes service. Other than that, just simple oil changes and tire rotations have done this car great. I'd also like to mention I installed a KTuner stage 2 tune on the car and it is now faster than an si with 220 hp and 260 lb/ft. Car still purrs along and takes it like it's nothing.
I agree on the seats being a weak point on this car. The lack of lumbar and the rough-feeling cloth don't really help on longer trips, but it doesn't dig in too much to the driving experience as it rides well over 95% of bumps with the 18" wheels.
This car is a beast for what you pay for, though. Throw some stickier tires and a tune on it and it's essentially my own "si hatch" with around 220 hp and 260 lb/ft. Has very good road mannerisms at any speed. Fastest I've been yet is 147mph on a closed track, but definitely could hit around 160 if given enough straightaway space. If you add the CTR rear sway bar and an aftermarket front strut tower bar it'll handle near perfect for most people.
If anyone is in the market for a 10th gen civic hatchback, get one. 11/10 best car I've owned to date and would probably buy again.
They need an Si version of the new Civic Hatchback.
DelSol there is one coming it was at the detroit auto show
DelSol we're getting a type r in hatch form
You know, if they were coming out with an Si hatch, I would have waited for that, it's the car I really wanted. For what it is though, the Civic Sport hatch in manual is a great package.
They are making one and it manages to be even more heinous looking than this one.
They're making a type R version, no Si unfortunately.
Overstyled the crap out of this car - it's soooooooo ugly
true dat, all the new Hondas are fugly
the front is okay though
Yeah, the Si is going to end up looking better than the type R. I think they didn't pull off the hatchback very well.
Yeah the back end of the new civics is so fat the hatchback doesn't even look different
Andrew D. Royappa like your picture you bum 😂😂😂
Wtf. How did you get involved with promoting alpha m?😂
Haha. I was just thinking the same. He's selling out more and more slowly. Oh well.
This channel will soon be a big commercial so Matt can make more cash for more cars.
dude stop complaining, the guy needs to make money somehow - plus it's not even intrusive, skip it if you want to..
schnizdawg if "selling out" is an enthusiastic ad that takes less than a minute and it affords him the money to keep doing this for a living, then I don't know why that's a bad thing. It's not as if skin care products are going to shape his opinion on a civic or some shit. Besides, he's been doing ad reads on the podcast since the beginning, does that mean the podcast is a sellout platform, too? People gotta make money somehow. TH-cam makes that more and more difficult every time they change something, so who gives a shit if Matt reads an ad? Come the fuck on now.
schnizdawg the term selling out is always so ignorant.
You got a job? Sellout!
You ever work over time? Sellout!
You ever get promoted! Major fucking sellout!
If you make money, you're a sellout.
Why is everyone acting as if this is supposed to be a "hot hatchback". This is just an economy car. They aren't gonna sound great or be that fast. Judge it as a sports car when the si and the type r come out.
100% true. Its a "sporty hatchback" not a Si or Type R.
Rumors are the Si is getting the same motor that makes more power. Not even a turbo change.
Pr0ximaCentauri yeah it'll be the same 1.5 turbo just tuned for more power. Everyone was assuming it'd be the 2.0 turbo with less power. I heard no hatch model for the SI though which I think is a let down.
Because people are idiots. It should be faster than a GTR, sound like a Ferrari, but only cost $10k brand new
Never mind that keyboard warriors who want these things probably can't afford a new car
Ad Mill even an si or type r wouldn't make this a sports car. Not even close.
cloth is cooler in Summer and warmer in Winter
I bet Matt feels like he's slowly walking in cars like this after driving those +500hp cars.
it is only a Daily A to B car though, Type R is much more fun it aint 500hp fun but its two times faster then this lol
SeMpr3s Soren plenty of kids will treat it like it's a "fast" car.
They do it in 20yr old Honda's, this one won't be any different.
Lol if a 1991-95 Civic EG doing Low 8s to high 7s is not fast then i don't know what is , Biggest Disadvantage in Motorsport is a Car that is Fwd, Followed by Awd in drag racing , Sub 200+whp n/a doing a 12 second pass to me is considered pretty quick an Most people who do Drag racing civic builds are not Kids, Cheap easy an fun I quite like Civics infact im looking to buy a Ek9 currently,
You're talking about cars with 3-5x the power and less weight than stock. I think Eric might have been referring to the 100hp cars with fart cans and stickers on them.
Lol.. How is a eg/ek 3-5 the power i mentioned 200whp? B16A is 165bhp in a EG an 195bhp in a Ek? Stock, 200hp@wheels is not 3-5x the power ;) 165bhp is 130-140fwhp 195bhp is 150-165fwhp ? so adding 40-70whp is 3-5x? I wasn't talking about D15/D16 Civics, Actual JDM model cars,
Good job bro about the cyclist. I ride and appreciate what you just stated.
Hey Matt - as a guy who likes to both drive cars fast and ride bikes fast on backroads like these, thanks for being an understanding guy when it comes to cyclists. Road cyclists are actually pretty similar to car enthusiasts; we love going as fast as possible and pushing limits on winding, fast roads. Cheers!
God this car is fucking disgusting. Look at the back with those fake grilles. Why does Honda force these ugly looking chassis? Except the S2000 and the new NSX I cannot mention any good looking Hondas from the last 10-20 years.
Kordovaner Balint 3G Acura TL are the last best looking cars from the Honda
Yeah, not a fan of the new design language. Too many creases and jags for my taste. I prefer the understated look of the Golfs and Jettas right now.
LOL, silly ass punk... What's so manly about that Civic? Looks like a Transformer toy, not something a grown up would want to drive. VW for me, hands down.
TrollBuster I hate VW, rather BMW. But everyone has different taste
AOMechMarine AOMechMarine How old are you? 15?
I would love to see one of these with ONE giant muffler on it.
For what? You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear....if you know what I mean.
Kordovaner Balint you really could have used a better sounding analogy lol
Or THREE giant mufflers. #TypeRisnotaricer
so your saying put a bigger muffler on? that would only make it quieter. I think you ment deleting the muffler but wtf would you even put a dollar of mods into this plastic junk
Taekwon Crawfish no just no, for what he's trying to say it doesn't make any sense. a muffler is a muffler not the diameter of a exhaust
Need Civic wagon.
I know! America needs more wagons! I'm thankful we got the gorgeous Volvo V90 at least.
0to60videos why
0to60videos the hatch is so much better. when was the last time they ever made a civic wagon? they don't sell
Andrius Fink they make Civic wagons
Move to Europe. You can still get it with the old 1,8 N/a engine...
"The shifting knob feel's like a Porsche 944's."
Matt 2017
Its huge and ugly
Spergetti Neetballz it does make the older ones look better though.
Spergetti Neetballz that's what she said 😂
Spergetti Neetballz It is much smaller in real life than I expected. Still looks huge compared to the 8th and 9th gens though.
And heavy.
idontcare80 he said it weighs 2,800lb
thank god , finally a rear wiper.
I really think Honda should've given this car (Hatchback Sport) the Si's numbers (205hp/192lb/tq) Given the Si more like the Focus ST's numbers (220-230hp/240-250lb/tq) and then you have the 300 HP Type-R, as is! - I think with all those cars Honda would be WAY more competitive in each of those respected segments!
As a car enthusiast and a cyclist, thank you for not speeding by the cyclist in your video! Awesome content, thanks Matt!
Taylor Campbell Im sorry but cyclists always ruin the fun on my sunday drive. They always get in my way and I cant pass them.
@Blank. yup
@@braydenbrooks1009 ditto
Blank. Yah so let me go 25 down a 10mile road with no dashed lines to pass on! 😀
Great color, body ugly. S2000 Honda days long gone
In Canada here you can get the sport touring with the leather and manual.
😤
Thats now available as the 2020 model in the US
That’s because we’re Canadian and we want the best
I really think not offering the Si in this hatchback configuration is a mistake. I'm probably not going to be able to afford the Type-R, but I want more than the base hatch offers as far as performance.
The cyclist "didn't really need to do that" (take the whole lane when it wasn't safe for you to pass). How the hell are they supposed to know that you're a conscientious driver? They're exposed on a 20-something pound bicycle while you're in a 2,800 pound car revving the sh!t out of it as you come up behind them. Give them a break dude. They have a right to use the road too...
jnichols959 maybe don't ride a 20 pound bicycle on a small road on the side of a mountain with no bike lanes or sidewalks
jnichols959 I think if you're out on a bicycle on those kind of roads, you got a death wish. Seriously, way too much faith in people in vehicles.
He did "give them a break", he always slows down and keeps a good distance until he can safely pass....his words inside the car do not affect the cyclist
+jnichols959 u a bitch
Share the road, there is room for everyone. While driving, just be patient and only pass when safe to do so. We all pay taxes. Cycling on any roads isn't "safe" especially with people txting. Just be considerate and note that is a life on the bike. He was probably travelling the speed limit.
My grand mother has the same color...... On her prosthetic leg...
It matches with your personality ! Never mind this grey is more superior than that =))))
Yuppers. Bobby Bass nailed it.
I about spit out my drink! Thats some funny shit!
the fully loaded civic comes with a stick for 2020!! :-)
What do you want at that price point??? Clown is comparing that to cars that are more expensive and race oriented. Its a peppy commuter Costco car and should be treated as such. In fact if you buy one with the Costco discount you can get them in 2020 for 21,000.
A BOV, some basic bolt-ons, exhaust and tune would make this car a really fun and inexpensive daily driver. I would buy. 22K is a steal for a car with such potential.
Focus ST will take it any day for the same price
Mario Martinez focus at and this car aren’t proper comparison, doesn’t make sense for you to say that but these cars with a tune and bolt ons would keep up or pass up a st so don’t be so sure
PowerofMetal247 there’s no need for a bov for this motor..
Blueyedgamer a bolt-on 1.5L would not beat a bolt-on 2.3L, or a bolt-on 1.6L...
I really like the reviews of new consumer cars vs new super cars. I feel like they fit the canyons better and are more informative to your audience Matt. Good video!
I agree cars like the miata, BRZ, GTI, Cayman, M2, etc are actually better on twisty public roads. You just can't push today's super high end cars on public roads, they are just to damn capable.
"This is going to be my LAST Civic video" - Matt, last week
Stephane Leclair when a brand new version of the car comes out,
Obviously, we do that car.
Cloth seat master race.
better luck next time
Looks like Honda put on weight after high school
Thats what I like about the VW and Honda turbo engines, that they make more of their power on top rather than giving it to you all at once then die out at redline. I'm the type who likes a progressive powerband, and thats still achievable with forced induction.
Am I the only one that likes the look of it?
No, I love it.
Ditto
It grew on me. Only with the right rims.
I like everything except for the fake vents.
@Granny Gertrude wack
USA: $22.000 , The Netherlands: €36.140 - We pay 21% tax and on top of that a lot of other charges....
@Sergio Aguirre You pay a high tax rate in the Netherlands. That's what Socialism does to a country tax tax tax, fees, fees, fees. and on and on! Petrol expensive!
Great Matt - I hate thinking (!?) This thing is uglier than ever but seems pretty competent overall. Fuck that lane hogging cyclist thinking he's a car - I would have performed the Pitt manoeuvre on him as he was barrelling down that hill.
When you going to start advertising essential oils? Lol
Fuck its so ugly...when you get to the rear of the car...it just looks like a prius
Don't bemoan the lack of leather with the manual transmission. In my view leather is unnecessary, is less sporting (you slide in the seat), is too hot in the summer and too cold in the winter. If I could have every car in my future without leather I would prefer it that way, unfortunately most manufacturers assume higher priced cars must have leather or faux leather seating.
Yes but as you stated thats your view. Some people want leather with a stick. If they want leather with a stick, more power to them
Firmly tip my hat to you sir for explaining accurately what the cyclist did and why he did it - thank you! Lots of petrol heads watching this, including me. And I also cycle. And, I do exactly the same as that cyclist did on that corner to save getting squeezed into ditches (or worse) by close passes. Anyway - great review, thanks!
That dude on the bike was pulling on you ! :-p
Fun Fact about the Sport Hatch. It actually makes:
190hp @ 5500rpm
193lb-ft @ 3500rpm
*At the wheels!*
Logλn L I don't know about that. My friend has one and it doesn't feel anywhere near as powerful as another friend's MK7 GTI, which puts about 210hp to the wheels stock. Definitely felt like more than a 20hp difference and the civic has the advantage in weight.
Matt Parise
vtec.net - The Temple of VTEC - Honda and Acura Enthusiasts Online - Articles - 1/4 mile time: Dyno Test: 2017 Honda Civic Sport 6MT
I think the way the car is tuned, the turbo spools a bit slower than it could for a smoother and easier to manage power delivery.
But Hondata tuning fixes that. It also brings the car to 213whp and 240wtq.
Logλn L They literally did they don't know if it's accurate in the article. Also, put it on a mustang dyno and see what it really makes.
Matt Parise the gti makes 250 hp 270 tq at the wheels... vw underrates like crazy. No contests here. Also if you friend drives a dsg it bounds to have better acceleration and less drive train loss than a darn CVT. I really wanna get a gti but I'm too afraid of the countless reliability issues. Might get a brz instead.
Francis Fung the GTI makes 210-220 at the wheel on a dynojet. You may be thinking of stage 1apr
As a cyclist, and a car guy, I gotta say that I very much appreciate the way that you share the road with cyclists.
We all love to go out and play in the canyons and it's great when drivers respect our space.
Thx Matt!
Wow, they really styled all the pretty out of it.
LOL, the civic is getting uglier and uglier... WTF honda!
Same guy must design the Subarus too
These are dope little cars. With $2K down, good credit you can get one for $200 a month with taxes included.
There is nothing as, new, fast, reliable and fun tom drive out there for that price.
It rained last night and I found a snail on the ground that was much larger than the MHI TD03 turbo found in these Honda's.
SDD525 Absolutely nothing, simply a joke.
SDD525 true
Im sure the mini cooper turbo is smaller
and twice the torque as the brz XD (I own a brz so I'm allowed to talk shit)
If u don’t like it come off the comments u muppet
In the future I'd mention that this really is the car video you clicked on before diving into the skin care products.
for me, this car is rendered useless by the Volkswagen GTI. For $24,000 you could have a base GTI which weighs the same as this car but has substantially more power. Also, the cloth seats on the base GTI are great, and the overall interior of the GTI is miles ahead of the civic in terms of refinement.
werner naegeli reliability
If you're buying the car new or leasing reliability shouldn't be a big issue, at least not until the mileage starts getting up there.
werner naegeli not really reliability issues even on gti's with low mileage is common. There leases suck too. My buddy had his gti a 2016 for 6 months and had it at dealer pretty often lucky for him he was under warranty and had the repairs done but he was pissed because the jobs were taking a few days at a time to get done.
Even hyundai has better reliability than Volkswagen. TDI or nothing. Direct injection Volkswagen is asking for problems
Ugh, the engine sounds horrible...
Mgoblagulkablong sounds like a typical civic with a stock exhaust. This is a "sporty" car it's not meant to sound good.
That's what I was thinking, as well. Ugh is right. Was considering this vehicle as the replacement for my well-aged '01 Integra GS-R.... Thought that 180hp would be good enough for modest fast driving, too.
YasumotoUS How much for your gsr? I'll buy it cash if its nice and you're located near NYC metro.
If they add a cat back or freeflow it would sound much better.
+Viewing yeah it won't be easy but you can find a good catback for these cars
I don't get why car companies restrict manual gearbox's to the base models. Especially in cars they advertise as sporty
Mitchell Hallmark bc automatic transmissions cost more to produce and are "luxury" items in cars. While manuals are the cheaper transmission, they are also the go to transmission for sporty driving
They don't. Ford has the base model of the Focus Sedan SE in a manual.
you can get a Flashpro and gain 35 lb-ft of torque and 25 hp from that alone. Even in the cvt version. cvt handles it very well from the research iv done. I plan to do it to my sport touring civic hatch. You will get even more power with intakes and down pipes. )0-60 drops to 5.7-6.2 depending how far you want to mod it. i imagine 6.2 would be the tune alone and 5.7 with all the bolt ons. That's not bad for a 1.5 Turbo. That would about equal the WRX CVT
One of my friends just got one of these in blue. I think they're one of the best looking civics to come out in a very long time
f the leather it get very hot when its hot and very cold when its cold
@Granny Gertrude what im saying is its not practical and good for rugged people.
Thank you for giving the cyclist space on the road. Great review!
The shifter in the 2018 as been redesigned and completely different than the cheap 2017 shifter
$22k... I paid $21,500 before TTL for a 2017 GTI S, I feel like the Civic isn't that great of a value anymore. You won't be getting a manual sport for under MSRP at least around here if you can even find one.
No doubt a base GTI is more fun for the money.
xpinchx Uhhmm just looked them up and they cost $25,595 for the base GTI S
Adonis Sana you can get way under msrp, i did with minimal haggling
Well then you should be able to get a civic for $19,000.
Adonis Sana not right now. there's no real incentives and these are in limited supply right now so you won't see any going out the door for less than msrp.
Nice review. I just ordered a Touring for a daily car. Sounds like a made a wise choice for a practical / fun car. Ill save the 90 Civic turbo for the real fun :) I heard the CVT in this car is actually half decent for a CVT, whats your thoughts on the touring? Thanks
Bring back sweaty balls talc powder!!!
For a cheap economy car it's pretty impressive. Good suspension design, decent power and handling, good price. I'm sure with a tune you should be able to see around 215 HP which would really wake it up especially with some upgraded brake pads and tires.
Lol that ain't a hatch. That's a wagon and a hatch smushed together.
Here the cyclist would have to be on the right side of the white shoulder line. Not allowed on the driveway. For once some traffic law, that makes sense here in Finland.
Sometimes I forget how good Matt is at talking eloquently and in an informative, yet entertaining way. I think this is because he does mostly one takes these days. But seriously Matt, you are really entertaining and very well spoken person. It's kinda refreshing hearing you talk in "review" mode sometimes haha.
This is gonna be my project car in 10 years😁.
As a daily driver I'd buy this. But I wouldn't expect anything more from it.
Exactly. Its would be fun basic transportation. If you buy this car thinking your going to rack up kills then your sadly mistaken. Its a 7 sec almost 16 sec 1/4 mile car. By todays standards thats not fast. Honda will still sell a shit load of these thinks though.
Matt says he has my skin covered, I be like "dude buy me a drink or something first at least" lol!
The rear looks like it came from a Transformers movie.
hmmmm.. The body style is ugly to me. Other than that looks like a fun car to drive.
I wonder how this cars performance compares to the veloster turbo.
I want to know how it compares to the new Elantra GT Sport that has the same engine as Veloster Turbo.
It would be an interesting comparison. I used to have a veloster and although it has 200 hp it didn't feel like it at all.
I bet the Elantra GT Sport and the civic Si will be pretty close to each other.
I test drove the veloster turbo prior to buying this Civic hatch in Sport manual, The Honda feels much, much better in terms of sporty driving.
FlyinGato which engine felt like it had more power? I know on paper the Hyundai had more but when I owned mine it seemed underwhelming.
I drove the CVT version at the LA Auto Show. Granted I was let down because of it being automatic, but was pretty shocked at how quick it was once full boost hit. I mean, all you really need to do is do some coilovers, performance tires, short throw shifter, and lighter flywheel to make it a much more fun daily driver than what is offered already. A tune, CAI, and exhaust as well to let it breathe more and gain a bit more power, too.
Video starts at 0:55
I've noticed the heavy flywheel on my 2012 Civic Si as well. I have to blip the throttle a little harder when I go to rev match. It's a little different than what I was used to before I bought this.
that cyclist was hauling ass tho haha
You can get the Touring in manual now! 2020
1:00 of you don't have ashy elbows
Miss when you could get a loaded Si model for that price.
Infiniti FX35 coming soon?
Found my beater 😋...time to save my 2016 STI
This has to be the ugliest Civic ive ever seen.
zHSVClubby I second that comment, who is designing these cars, Dr Seuss
When you tell people you have a British sports compact...
I like the car. If your buying it for excitement wait for the upcoming SI and Type R. For just a daily runabout it's perfect.
Small world. @TheSmokingTire, I'm driving the same press car #3421 right now. I'll have my video up in the coming weeks. Did you figure out how to fully disable traction control? Even with VSA off, traction control is still on.
Honda has lost its touch. New Honda cars don't do it for me anymore.
Matt, thanks for this review! It helped me make my decision on getting this car, 2019 model.
I love it especially after I added K&N intake and Ktunner tune. It’s easy power for not too much money. Dynoed it 200hp to wheels now with 220 LB/Ft of torque. I did upgrade the brakes because they are not adequate after power add. I will upgrade tires next, I agree with your comment on the stock tires.
Why in the hell does the car weight 500+ pounds more than the 90's Honda's, but the 90's Si, and SiR Honda's ran 180-200 hp WITHOUT turbos? Cars are suppose to get better over time not worst. Like the C5 Z06 had 450 Hp, now the C6 base model has 450 HP. Is everyone becoming a stupid SJW? This car was a SJW move -__-
I'll be glad when they go out of business, because if this the type of shit we have to look forward to for the next decade, then as far as im concerned Honda Motor Co. no longer exist.
And even though the TYPE R version has more horsepower to compensate for the weight gain, but they could've made the drive train AWD at the very least.
It's a shame normal everyday people have better designs and ideals than the people who actually work there. #BoycottNeoHondas
P.S. Matt, sometimes u need to stop being so politically correct.. If I was reviewing this car, I would have called it absolute shit, and I wouldnt care who was watching.. Maybe then, Honda may start making shit that people actually want, like they use to do.
No airbags, no safty features. hardly and comforts. thats the weight
Eric B I'm aware of that, which is why the base model should have at least 220 HP, especially if its turbo aspirated. Any Turbo charged engine has no business being below 220 HP no matter what car its on.
For what it's worth, I think as weight goes up, so should power to at least make up for it. This is nowhere near as fast as an old 2000lb 200hp car, and regular large V6 sedans can be had around 3500-3800lb but with over 300hp so the power to weight ratio is much better.
@Daniel thats my point exactly. And since these new Hondas are turbocharged, re-tunning the boost, air to fuel ratio etc, all can be done without adding that much more to it, yet they choose to make this car the worst Honda ever built from a performance/ weight standpoint. smh..
who is chris lmfao
I think it's the easy electric steering and the sluggish long gears that make that car not fun.. 2800lbs @180hp.. it sounds good because my car is 2700lbs @172hp but I have old school hydro steering and short gears.. and I bet my car is 10x more fun than that Civic hatch
I love the color. I wish it looked more like a hatch than a sedan tho.
The Adventure Mazda I love the 90s lift back look. It is so different than every other hatch out there.
I currently have a 2008 Saturn Astra so I think a civic hatch would be an all around big upgrade.
"its a momentum car" bro its slow.
You can always find a faster car. Some people will get this magical satisfaction with a type r, others will not even be satisfied with a Ferrari. Driving at the limit and not worrying about lap or drag strip times is what a momentum car is. It makes sense for a lot of people.
lol how fast should it be you joker
I'm so torn on this car. Hondas have been popular because of their simple design language, reliability, and relative sportiness. I feel like from Matts review it drives well, and having a factory turbo option is exciting(lots of tuning potential). However, the design of this thing is a little over complicated for me. Too many sharp angles and lines all over the place.
so ugly car
2800 pounds out of a modern car with all the safety standards now! I am pretty impressed for how big I thought this car was at the auto show.
honda styling is still shit I see
Matt, I'd like to know your thoughts on the very comparable Hyundai Elantra Sport, which does offer a 6MT with leather for $21,500. I'm actually looking at buying the Hyundai now and wouldn't consider the Honda purely on looks alone, but interested to hear your take.
They should make a 1,5Turbo JAZZ for Europe!
Also, nice that T R U MP won. :)
Chrstian mrclep that would be sick! Basically Pulsar gti-r of today!
I'm a Honda fan boy. I have been since I was 15 years old. I'm now 28 years old. I still love hondas and that's all I have driven my entire life. I have owned 2 civics. 2003 civic LX bought used when I was 16. Sold last year bought a 2015 si. This new civic is shit. Complete and utter shit. Honda slowly losing its roots. They may lose me as a customer if it continues down hill like this.
So what's new on the civic channel oops it the smoking tire my bad. I will teach my girlfriend to drive a honda. Wow got to watch this one!!!
Am I hearing rev hang? Fuck I hate rev hang. I've driven manual my entire life and my next car will not be manual... I'm just tired of it.
Sure if I had a Porsche I'd get manual, but for everyday car I don't need it... Especially with these new economy cars with rev hang.
That being said, if I go automatic with Honda, youre pretty much stuck to cvt, and cvts can suck my left nut.
The v6 accord still comes with an automatic tranny. Maybe that's the way to go for my next car.
+TheSmokingTire I always wonder......how do you know what color it is if you're colorblind?
I have a 2017 civic sport hatch manual like your old white one . Its only 13 months old and the front floor mat already has a hole in it ! It took my 2000 civic SI 15 years to wear out the floor mat ! The interior and the paint job on this car (its black ) is so cheap man if you vacuum it too hard the sides near the doors caves in ? anyone else notice this on their 10th gen civic?
good styling, good price. poor options, poor performance, poor transmission, poor suspension, sounds like they need to go back to the drawing board if they plan on calling this a "sport" model. hopefully upcoming models will get tweaked for 2018-2020
I know this old but I could help but notice how close the jeep was parked behind this car in the thumbnail😂