Propshaft PTO - 4x4 Off-Road UTV Build Ep.12
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2024
- In this video I'm fabricating a PTO (power take-off) shaft so I can build a trailer for this UTV that also has drive. By connecting the UTV propshaft to identical differential and identical wheels on the trailer, it too will have the same speed as the UTV. The usual problem while towing a trailer is that the towing vehicle is too light (or the load being hauled is too heavy :D ) and it starts to skid around. By building a dedicated PTO for a driving trailer I don't have to worry about spinning the wheels anymore in the mud because the trailer is also driving / hauling. I'm also looking for ways to connect the driveshafts of BMW and Peugeot together since the wheel hubs are from a Peugeot and these have to be connected to the BMW E39 differential.
This is part of a series of a four wheel drive utility vehicle build to lessen the work load on my trusty 2002 Honda Foreman Rubicon TRX500FA. This partially answers the question "Why?" but for those who want to ask "why don't you just buy a side-by-side instead of building one?" I just want to say - I'm not made of money. Side-by-sides are ridiculously expensive, even the car I drive around daily is worth less (not worthless though!), hell, it is even worth less than my 2002 Honda ATV.
"How much HP will it have?" - the 1.4 litre FWD petrol engine I'm planning on using has 55 kw and this will not change, but the torque will be tripled via the BMW differentials I'm using to transfer power to front and rear axles.
"It will be too heavy!" - this project just like the firewood processor project does not have to float. And a heavier vehicle will handle better anyway when hauling heavy loads.
Stay tuned for future episodes! Thanks for watching!
My other videos: / donndiy
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Soundtrack:
Pomade - Silent Partner (TH-cam Audio Library)
Welding equipment borrowed from Spetselektroodi AS, Estonia:
Fronius TransSteel 2700 welder
Optrel Crystal 2.0 Welding Helmet
Hypertherm Powermax 45 XP plasma cutter
More fabrication videos on th-cam.com/users/DonnDIYvideos
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@@rafamonkowski9514 oo ioiiii
do you have a plan on this project?
Молодец Донни, очень нравится мне твоё увлечение,очень круто ты все делаешь,мастерская твоя олецитворение мечты многих мужиков с нормальными руками!!! Жду с нетерением продолжения проекта!!!👍👍👍
Большое спасибо!
This is a great job, and what I like about your work is your focus on perfecting the details and subtleties, which confirms that you are a professional.
С огромным удовольствием смотрю на работу талантливого парня!
Тоже самое 🤝👍
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Your videos are the best. I was going stir crazy wanting to watch what you have built this week. I built a metal brake this week. I have been needing to build some tool boxes and this was the thing I really needed.
You are going to need more hours in a day to try and find what this beast can't do. You are building the ultimate off-road badass.
Just sleeve the two sections of axles together. You could even drill holes in the hollow tube for some plug welds. That'd be your strongest route.
I don't know how I got invested in your builds, but I love it! Keep up the great videos 👍👍!
I’ve never considered driving a trailer via the UTV. I’m excited to see what you come up with. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
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i am not sure how much i am actually learning.. or if the time will ever come to use said knowledge, but never the less, i am really enjoying the build.
VERY VERY NICE !! I love how you think things through !! Wonderful design and execution !! I see you making a sleeve to over come the obstacle of the new shafts 🤔 . Look how far you have come it is so exciting to me to able to see this all take shape !! FABULOUS work !! Cant wait for the next video !!🔧👍👍
I will probably swap the shafts and get the hollow ones. Hollow shafts withstand more torque as well.
За один только инструмент - лайк однозначно 👍 , не говоря о золотых руках и светлой голове!!! Подписался.
This thing is gonna be so awesome. A powered trailer?!?! It’s looking great!
I ain't worried about your new axles. I'm fully convinced you can do anything and make it work.
Wondering what is the best tool to make a radius of a round part smaller
Looks at the lathe: "Ah, the angle grinder!"
I thought the same, if you want it any rougher you’ll have to get someone else
Man I've been waiting what feels like for ever for your new video , love your workmanship 👍👍👍
Otro muy buen video amigo esta vez nos compartes la construccion de un un eje de toma de fuerza (PTO) para un remolque de el UTV, mis respetos y saludos desde Venezuela.
Another very good friend video this time you share with us the construction of a power take-off shaft (PTO) for a UTV trailer, my respects and greetings from Venezuela.
The master of cliffhangers!
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Driven trailer? Great idea!
Thx for the vids!
Driven trailers are great, but create bit of a issue specially in heavier equipment, where if you have vehicle it self spilling badly and put power to trailers drive train that holds, there is possibility of it breaking something if that is not over built to handle such forces IE you are putting all of the combined weight and power of the engine into one axle.
Also gear ratio needs to be considered when building such construction. Have a rear axle from different ratio than the front and you will break weakest link.
In this case i dont think it is big issue since his using car parts on UTV, but its pretty close safety margins with all that weight, specially if trailer is loaded with dirt or such heavy load.
I like the way you work safely, many youtuber doesn't work safe at all.
This thing is going to be a work horse
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Great job Donn, lots of great fabricating in each video !! Thanks for sharing with us, excellent work you’re doing. Thanks for sharing with us.👍👍👍👍👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
You can use a sleeve for the solid axles, and it would be cool if you welded the arrow on the sprocket, slower but surely!! It’s really coming to life this thing!! Love the vids!!
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Great job on thinking of how to get the differential out in the future.
For a hollow inside another pipe joint a series of plug welds is also unbelievably strong and easy method.
За станок динозавр тебе миллион лайков. Я ржал. Спасибо за такие видосики!
Muita experiência embarcada!Menos componentes indo para o descarte e sendo brilhantemente reutilizados.👏👏👏
Don love your videos and your builds you are a very smart man with a lot of energy hope you are around on youtube for a long time to come .
Thank you for the good wishes. I hope to be around for a while too. 😀
It is sure that, even on a classic 4x4, the transmission is a very complicated part (and I find it hard to believe that you succeeded in assembling Peugeot parts with BMW parts) good job !
The one thing i would've gone a different route regarding the PTO itself, is i would've used one of those adjustable clutches, like the ones Mike Festiva used for his 4x4 articulated dump truck to make an LSD driven by chain. Essentially, out of use, the gear spins on its own, but there's no power to the PTO, when you need it, you tighten the nut, and it works, mostly because you can add a slip variable to the whole system, like if the driven item suddenly locks up on you, you're not going to hurt the UTV.
Just a thought. Prolly too late to engineer that into it now.
Would the shafts still be strong enough if you just fitted a sleeve over the joint and welded the sleeve to the two solid shafts? You could even weld the shafts together with a butt weld first, then grind the weld smooth and slide the sleeve over it and weld it too (assuming you remember to put the sleeve on before welding) I'm sure you have probably already figured it out by now though. Love this series, thanks again :)
That was what I was thinking as well; sleeve the shafts and plug weld through the sleeve.
Yes that works, i did that once, no problems with 120 HP.
If the shafts are the same size just cut a piece of tubing to slip over each one. Weld the ends and then drill a couple spots for a plug weld on each side. Everything is intended to be low speed compared to a vehicle so should not make a huge difference if there is a little bit out of balance. but you could easily spin them between centers and check vibration and add or remove a little weight.
Looks good though. Too bad you can not integrate a clutch of sorts for the PTO so that you could also drive an implement if you wanted. Say a hydraulic pump for a cutter or a generator to run your cutter/splitter. But having a trailer that will help drive should be pretty nice if all the axel's are welded. Be true ALL wheel drive.
SUPER GOOOOOOD MISTER.
Welcome back ❤️
Is you heard is the ATV?)
I have to say the Power Take Off to transfer power to the axle/s on the trailer for this machine is going to be cool, been throwing around the same idea for a trailer to go on my cub cadet that has the trans PTO assembly in it.
I,m subscribed and watch all of your vids. back in the day, my aircraft instructor taught us, never put bolts in head down, or in the case of a vehicle , head backward. If the nut vibrates loose in a head down position, ( or head backward), the bolt falls off (or out). That generally results in system failure. Sometimes catastrophicaly.
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For every problem, there is a solution as there can be no solution without a problem.
That's an awesome idea with the PTO for trailer, can't wait to see it run!
Hey Donn,I also do small projects.The work you do is excellent.I would need a milling machine with power feed and a lathe.keep up the good work....
The second week I'm waiting for a new video from you.
Seems to be no shortage of materials and equipment at all, makes fabricating a lot more fun.
Patiently waiting (not🤔😉) for the next video. Awesome work. Your skills are amazing.
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Coming together nicely! I really enjoyed the video 👍👍😁
Very interesting to watch you fabricate your 4x4.
Great work dude best of luck
Thanks for posting Donn 👍 I’m really liking the PTO for the trailer! Awesome work as always.
Take care
Ps Have you been using your CNC table at all?
Cheers. Yes, first test parts have already been cut on the CNC. But there's still some tinkering needed so it'll take some time. I will make a final video for the CNC plasma table series as well at some point in the future.
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I just binged all 12 episodes. Loving this, subscribed!
Donn, get yourself a set of parallels for the mill, keeps you workpiece off the bottom of the vice and ‘flat’. Makes setup a lot easier
Instead of the angle join of one drive shaft slotted in the other, which while not a major issue is out of balance,
Slot one in the other as you have, but instead of an angle cut on the outer, cut square to length as normal, (and instead of doing plug welds through holes as you have done previously, ) split the outer tube in 4 lengthwise cuts( quarters) the same length and weld
You now have twice as much weld which is four times as strong as your diagonal version, but it is still reasonably balanced , if the new axles are solid and using the tube axles in combination, turn down the new solids to just over an internal slide fit, heat the tube and if necessary cool the solid axle to fit , then again having pre cut the outer tube, weld up the four lengthwise slots
If both axles end up solid turn your standard Male/ female slide fit but tight as above, you can either cut the outer shaft slots as above or even mill them.
Whichever way you go, this will be hugely stronger than just plug welds
The whole lot could be cleaned up in the lathe to leave a clean OEM look and be as close to balanced as possible without actual balancing
Cheers
Great video. Excellent work well made. Thank you for sharing.
Man, is that luck or what. Nice fit on the shafts, normally, you'd search the seven seas and couldn't find something that fit so well. :D edit: welp, spoke too soon.
Thanks to video Donn! I really like your projeckt! 🎅🏻🤘🏻🔧🔩🏁🇫🇮
Thanks for the update Donn, it's an absolute joy to see the things you come up with.
You're the best !
Very good
You are very technical man!
Cheers!
I thought this shaft will be connected with any machine like in the tractor and I considered how it could work without any clutch but never mind. The trailer will be great 👍
I ain't a very good critic, I love all the work that you do/LOL. I figure this will be a dandy..... lets hope it swims good as I know everything has to go to the beaver dam to be checked out
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Ура механикус опять что-то механичит.
Just a thought, it would be super cool if you put an 12vdc electric clutch(like on air conditioner compressor on a vehicle) with your sprocket so you could engage and disengage the pto🤷♂️
Your going to need a bearing outside the sprocket on the front of the diff. The torque of the chain will destroy the bearing in the diff otherwise. What do you think.
Hello, I came to see it. People, this project is awesome.
I am loving the build, but I have a suggestion. The second bracket for the PTO shaft, rather than make a plate to cover the frame tubing, find some tubing with a proper size ID for your bolts and drill through the frame slightly larger than the OD of the tubing. Cut the tubing to the depth of the frame tubing and weld it on both sides. Finish by grinding both sides flat. This is far stronger and will not slip or crush the frame tubing allowing the shaft to get lose. Wondering what the PTO is for??
As I said in the video: the sole purpose of this PTO is to provide drive for the driving trailer.
Хорошо! Очень хорошо! 👍👍👍💪💪💪
Great to see more progress on this build
Man you do a great job.
Nice work
Cheers!
You realize with that PTO and a bit of a floating dock you could rig up an out board motor and go from trailer to boat. Drive the kart on, tie down well and attach pto to propeller unit.
I'm really addicted to your video
Nice work ! I have the same stuf in my head but i dont have the same garage like you :))
I have the carage but no money or time
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Hello. My friend, you have created a node, which I also have to make in my project. Only smaller. Thank you for the video. Like it.
Awesome! I am not the only one who has tools for friends 😅
Yep. And the angle grinder is probably my best tool friend. 😝
An amazing video! That drive shaft bit at the end looks like a problem though...
Мої вітання з Херсонщини, Україна. Дякую майстру за відео, дуже цікаво. Лайк.
Great build , would I be correct in saying this is a ground drive pto, so trailer and back axel will be in sync, should help greatly in the mud 👍
Yeah it would be
Good Job 👍👍👍👍
Great work. You seem to have a very good understanding of engineering principals. Before you were a TH-camr were you an engineer or an engineering student?
Great Work Sir 👍😊 Cheers !!!
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This is art!...
.Excellent work👍👍👍. Thanks for sharing
Well done bro
Красавчик!!!👍👍👍
You must have your rear wheels turning whenever you have power to your PTO.
Wouldn't you like to be able to power something while you are stationary?
Simple solution: LOCK-OUT HUBS on all four wheels. Since you're going to weld the transmission's diff, you'll have full power to the PTO.
Just lock out all four wheels and put the transmission in first gear ... PTO turns, UTV stays still.
And you could go 2WD if you want to, either rear-wheel drive or front-wheel drive.
Plus, towing your UTV would be easier with free-wheeling on all four.
Hey Donn seguiré esperando subas el Ep.13 ...! Suerte men..!
I am not sure about this PTO, I think continuous power would be better, you would have better shaft speed control and most of all it would be running when stationary. I do not see much space in the vehicle to drive an additional PTO shaft, so here is my suggestion, if it was hydraulically powered by the pump at the engine, there would be no problems mentioned earlier and you would get hydraulic power for e.g. trailers or lifts. Regards!
If you don't have nothing to do is a good project to be in busy.
Love your work mate!
I have been meaning to say this for a while...but you guys must have some high quality cut off wheels where you are from cause if I tried to do some of the cuts you do regularly...well lets just say I wouldn't unless my goal was to have cut off wheels blow up in my face...for example the way you cut the hollow axle...I could never cut straight through it in one cut...I would cut a 1/4''...then widen it a couple mils...cut 1/4'' more...widen... ect till through...
Anyone else have this issue??
Great vid as always...
Amazing job man!!! Congratulation
Лайк. Удачи тебе.
hi great work as usual but on the other hand why have you coupled the PTO on the transmission to the wheels the interest of the PTO is also to be able to use it when stopped?
I like your chainsaw a monster character ready to eat something😁🤣😂👍like mate
Just weld a sleeve over the outside of the solid axle shafts
Use press fit sleeve
spectacular chain assembly
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Maybe a sleeve to join the shafts? Could even be keyed or have threaded socket/stub to join the shafts with a sleeve over join?
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Fine work as usual, should work to perfection.
Thanx!!!! Your vidéos are just amazing
Why don't you drill holes in the outer shaft and do plug welds? It would distribute the torque over a much larger surface area and avoids that it get bent or twisted, since the connection is more sturdy