I converted my 1976 MG Midget to electronic ignition in the early 80's and it worked flawlessly for the next 15 years then I sold the car. I bet it's still working. I have had my points on the Jubilee go out too many times now so it was time for an upgrade. Thanks for the comment Buddy!
I`m getting this , No more replacing , filing points and no more walking up the hill ( which is the only time it quits running, Great video quality and the video was not 1/2 hour of talk . Thanks !
It was your excellent vids on the overhaul that made me decide to do it myself. I had an old Ford 640 and restored it. I had a blast but I couldn't have done it with out your detailed teardown vids on the "Old 27"! Thanks!
That's a clean conversion, and it does not damage anything, so you could go back to points at any time :-D, just chuck all the bits in a plastic bag, you never know lol. That whole assembly looks brand new, i'm supprised if you had trouble with rough running. My mate has a morris minor 1000, i went to check the points one day and... oww it's been upgraded lol, same idea as yours, very reliable :-D.
The problems all started with the old distributor. I mentioned the distributor was new and since I was updating the distributor I figured it was good time to bring the old iron into the 21st century. Thanks for the comment and for watching!
Need to cut a large hole in the center of the dust cover to give clearance of the magnet sleeve. It mentions that in the instructions and I learned the hard way.
Hey Ed. I’m doing an install in my 54 6volt positive ground jubilee. My instructions are different then your in your video. Did you have instructions from the manufacturer to do it that way or did you just do it differently by design?
Ed, you still around? This video is pretty old so just wondering if you are around as I have some questions I was hoping you’d be able to answer. Thanks
How has the electronic ignition held out for you? I switched over to electronic ignition on my Jubilee in December of 2017. I installed the Petronix 1244A electronic ignition, and I also installed the recommended coil. The system has worked flawlessly until today and now my tractor won't fire. Just wondering how it has gone with your switch to electronic ignition. Thanks!
1:27 what is that little thing sticking out of the side of the distributor with the metal cap on it? Almost looks like you would put some lubrication in there, what’s that for?
Excellent video.... I just ordered an electronic system from TISCO... 12V neg. ground... My Jubilee has a "covered" resistance wire from the ignition to the + side of the coil... Can I leave it ?? should it be replaced with a non-resistance wire.. I read in one of your posts below... resistor not needed due to no points....
I wish I would have done that to my dad's old JD 430. That tractor ATE condensers & points for breakfast. Especially condensers. Anymore videos grading in the future?
I wish some one would make a video on a original 8n or jubilee tractor conversion *sigh* , I have a 53 and a 54 and both still use original generator 6 volt positive ground system they sell a conversion for 6 volt for anyone wanting to know the part number for Pertronix 6 volt is 1244AP6 also available on amazon but for some reason costs more of course lol. I would think the conversion would be similar but it has 2 black wires not 1 red and 1 white like the 12 volt one in this video and just curious how one would hook it up properly with 2 same color wires. For what it costs ( $106 on amazon ) i can rebuilt points about 20x over lol and on my 53 i have changed the points maybe twice in 40 years of use so i don't see a problem i can't justify the conversion cost for something that seems to work perfectly fine when tractor is maintained properly and costs me a few dollars for distributor kit from New Holland, They also boast higher hp and performance with eletronic ignitor but i mean come on it is a 53 with i believe 45hp lol how much can you really gain honestly and would you even notice the difference? To me it would be hard to jusify wasting 106 bucks on something that is so easy to replace points that work fine and are so cheap to replace.
I just bought the 6v kit for '52 8n. The instructions say the black/white wire goes to the negative side of the coil and the all black wire goes to the ignition switch wire.
Hi there- just watched the video on the ignition. My father in law just bought an tractor where the previous owner installed the ignition incorrectly. This video is perfect to help fix. However, could you please show the wires running from the battery to the coil? I believe he removed a wire he shouldn't have, and also I've been informed its a positive ground tractor. Is yours the same?
Do you have a ballast resistor between your coil and battery? I have an 8n, front distributor, that I converted to 12v. Switched to 12v coil and 12v Igniter. It ran great for a couple years, but I accidentally left the key on for a few minutes without it running, and I burned everything up! Sees like I read somewhere you need a .6 Ohm resistor, but I don't know. I know I would, of course, if I were using the old 6v coil, but I'm not. Just trying to figure out if a .6 Ohm resistor would prevent another $100 mistake!!
Yes, you need a ballast resistor in your "points" system. I don't need one in this electronic system since there's no points to make a constant connection to battery.
seems to run good for about 20 min then dies, pull cap off and it looks like magnet sleeve is wore out in the center of topside. then wont run anymore. has happened twice. Any ideas?
Absolutely same happened with mine, I had to shave some plastic off the dust cover and top of magnet sleeve it's highly frustrating the cap won't fit without the dust cover and the dust cover touches the magnet on my NAA/600
Have the distributor cap off & clear of the rotor. With the starter button, crank over the motor. Watch the rotation of the rotor, if CW it is CW. Hello from north east Montana. 10 miles from the Canadian border.
My error.... Yesterday's Tractor ; PARTS FORD Electronic Ignition Conversion Kit, 12V Negative Ground - Pertronix Electronic Ignition kit for the following tractors using 4-cylinder gas engine- 8N (using side mount distributor), NAA, Jubilee, (501... etc.
What is the Part number of the new Distributor it looks like you have. Mine says 30359 414???? Do I need to replace the distributor for the electronic ignition??
Good timing on this video. I need to help my father in law with his 8n. Currently has no spark. Would this work on a 6-volt system? If so, where did you get your kit or where can I buy one. Thanks.
pertronix 1247XT is what youre looking for , not sure if yours is front mount though. side mount is PerTronix 1244A but youll need a 3ohm flame thrower coil
Great Video! So I put mine in, and now it seems to backfire out of the intake?? It is as bizzare as it sounds. Not quite sure what is going on; any suggestions?
Don't buy these. I have had two. the first failed after two years. When I went to install the second I discovered that the dist cap post for the number 3 cylinder had never seen a spark. The second failed after a year. At 90+ dollars a pop...not worth it.
I have had mixed results similar to the both of you, MF234 great no problem but I sold the tractor after 3 years , ford NAA used for plowing,finish mowing 8 acres every 2 weeks and driveway maintenance multiple issues to the point I'm going back to points next time I'm giving up, an old ford generator no problems 6 years , 1010john Deere verdict still out just got second one after a year and half of bush hogging and many various boom pole tasks. I had one rigged up on a 4cyl mercury that I could forget about it never had any issues again.....for NAA is pissing me off though I love that tractor but the pertronix kit just ain't right for that thing , this is why I watched this video to see if this guy is doing anything I'm not..nope same ways just a picky ol ford set in her ways I guess
@KM I'm officially done with them myself, my buddyloves them on his and here's the difference I think..he uses his tractors for little 20 min spurts of something here and there , I work the hound out of mine and one set of points out last these things, in reference to my above post where I say verdict is still out on the JD1010..yeah I'm back to points on it.
There are some people that say these are a waste of money but more people (like me) love them!!
I converted my 1976 MG Midget to electronic ignition in the early 80's and it worked flawlessly for the next 15 years then I sold the car. I bet it's still working. I have had my points on the Jubilee go out too many times now so it was time for an upgrade. Thanks for the comment Buddy!
I`m getting this , No more replacing , filing points and no more walking up the hill ( which is the only time it quits running, Great video quality and the video was not 1/2 hour of talk . Thanks !
I would like to install the Pertronix system on my 8N. Your video was very helpful.
It was your excellent vids on the overhaul that made me decide to do it myself. I had an old Ford 640 and restored it. I had a blast but I couldn't have done it with out your detailed teardown vids on the "Old 27"! Thanks!
Makes me smile to think about that old 640 getting a new life. Thanks for the comment!
I have got some vids of it on my channel but I would watch the slideshow.
Wow! What a great job you did on the old tractor. Sure looks good! I will restore mine one day but it's still sweaty and working right now :-)
:-)
You won't regret it! I love the electronic ignition I put on my Ford 640. Good Vid!
Good to hear. It sure does run smooth now.
Do you need to convert to negative ground? Or 12v?
That's a clean conversion, and it does not damage anything, so you could go back to points at any time :-D, just chuck all the bits in a plastic bag, you never know lol.
That whole assembly looks brand new, i'm supprised if you had trouble with rough running.
My mate has a morris minor 1000, i went to check the points one day and... oww it's been upgraded lol, same idea as yours, very reliable :-D.
The problems all started with the old distributor. I mentioned the distributor was new and since I was updating the distributor I figured it was good time to bring the old iron into the 21st century.
Thanks for the comment and for watching!
Exactly what I was looking for, thank you
Need to cut a large hole in the center of the dust cover to give clearance of the magnet sleeve. It mentions that in the instructions and I learned the hard way.
Loved your video you explained everything very well and also your video was very clear where we could see everything you were doing thank you so much
Excellent video, very informative.
Hey Ed. I’m doing an install in my 54 6volt positive ground jubilee. My instructions are different then your in your video. Did you have instructions from the manufacturer to do it that way or did you just do it differently by design?
27 if your tractor is positive ground, do you still hook up the wires the same way on the coil red deposit black to negative
Clear well explained video great job
What size spark plugs do u recommend for this conversion set up?
Read two positive black to negative?
How do you find out if the distributor rotates clockwise or counterclockwise
Ed, you still around? This video is pretty old so just wondering if you are around as I have some questions I was hoping you’d be able to answer. Thanks
How has the electronic ignition held out for you? I switched over to electronic ignition on my Jubilee in December of 2017. I installed the Petronix 1244A electronic ignition, and I also installed the recommended coil. The system has worked flawlessly until today and now my tractor won't fire. Just wondering how it has gone with your switch to electronic ignition. Thanks!
No problems so far.
1:27 what is that little thing sticking out of the side of the distributor with the metal cap on it? Almost looks like you would put some lubrication in there, what’s that for?
Excellent video.... I just ordered an electronic system from TISCO... 12V neg. ground... My Jubilee has a "covered" resistance wire from the ignition to the + side of the coil... Can I leave it ?? should it be replaced with a non-resistance wire.. I read in one of your posts below... resistor not needed due to no points....
I wish I would have done that to my dad's old JD 430. That tractor ATE condensers & points for breakfast. Especially condensers. Anymore videos grading in the future?
Is your tractor already been converted to 12 Volts?
I wish some one would make a video on a original 8n or jubilee tractor conversion *sigh* , I have a 53 and a 54 and both still use original generator 6 volt positive ground system they sell a conversion for 6 volt for anyone wanting to know the part number for Pertronix 6 volt is 1244AP6 also available on amazon but for some reason costs more of course lol. I would think the conversion would be similar but it has 2 black wires not 1 red and 1 white like the 12 volt one in this video and just curious how one would hook it up properly with 2 same color wires.
For what it costs ( $106 on amazon ) i can rebuilt points about 20x over lol and on my 53 i have changed the points maybe twice in 40 years of use so i don't see a problem i can't justify the conversion cost for something that seems to work perfectly fine when tractor is maintained properly and costs me a few dollars for distributor kit from New Holland, They also boast higher hp and performance with eletronic ignitor but i mean come on it is a 53 with i believe 45hp lol how much can you really gain honestly and would you even notice the difference? To me it would be hard to jusify wasting 106 bucks on something that is so easy to replace points that work fine and are so cheap to replace.
I just bought the 6v kit for '52 8n. The instructions say the black/white wire goes to the negative side of the coil and the all black wire goes to the ignition switch wire.
Hi there- just watched the video on the ignition. My father in law just bought an tractor where the previous owner installed the ignition incorrectly. This video is perfect to help fix. However, could you please show the wires running from the battery to the coil? I believe he removed a wire he shouldn't have, and also I've been informed its a positive ground tractor. Is yours the same?
Nice 👍
Do you have a ballast resistor between your coil and battery? I have an 8n, front distributor, that I converted to 12v. Switched to 12v coil and 12v Igniter. It ran great for a couple years, but I accidentally left the key on for a few minutes without it running, and I burned everything up! Sees like I read somewhere you need a .6 Ohm resistor, but I don't know. I know I would, of course, if I were using the old 6v coil, but I'm not. Just trying to figure out if a .6 Ohm resistor would prevent another $100 mistake!!
Yes, you need a ballast resistor in your "points" system. I don't need one in this electronic system since there's no points to make a constant connection to battery.
@@edzgarage Some coils have the resistor built into them
seems to run good for about 20 min then dies, pull cap off and it looks like magnet sleeve is wore out in the center of topside. then wont run anymore. has happened twice. Any ideas?
Absolutely same happened with mine, I had to shave some plastic off the dust cover and top of magnet sleeve it's highly frustrating the cap won't fit without the dust cover and the dust cover touches the magnet on my NAA/600
copper core plug wires? dont you need to replace those also?
How do you know if its clockwise or counterclockwise for mounting? Thanks
Have the distributor cap off & clear of the rotor.
With the starter button, crank over the motor.
Watch the rotation of the rotor, if CW it is CW.
Hello from north east Montana.
10 miles from the Canadian border.
Hey would should the resistance of the petronix be by itself removed from the system?
Did you use a 12v resistor?
did you use positive or negitive system? what sive plugs thanks scotty
What part number of Ignition Coil are you using?
My error.... Yesterday's Tractor ; PARTS FORD Electronic Ignition Conversion Kit, 12V Negative Ground - Pertronix Electronic Ignition kit for the following tractors using 4-cylinder gas engine- 8N (using side mount distributor), NAA, Jubilee, (501... etc.
What is the Part number of the new Distributor it looks like you have. Mine says 30359 414???? Do I need to replace the distributor for the electronic ignition??
What is the part number
Keep the old system on a shelf,in case a nuke or neutrons bomb is used in your area...
Good idea lol
will this work on a 1952 8N
is it a positive or negative ground ignition
What do you charge for this sort of job?
nice video, no adjustment needed ?
Surprisingly, no. It didn't need any adjustment. Thanks for the comment!
Good timing on this video. I need to help my father in law with his 8n. Currently has no spark. Would this work on a 6-volt system? If so, where did you get your kit or where can I buy one. Thanks.
Bought mine on Amazon. Not sure about 6v but I bet it's available. This only works on 8N side mount distributor.
Is the installation for the Ford 8n front mount distributor electronic ignition the same as this or is there something different?
It's similar when it comes to the wiring but it's a completely different distributor setup.
did you do the alternator 12v conversion? do you have a video for it?
My tractor was already running a modified generator that works at 12v when I got the tractor.
Where did you get the ignition set? Enjoy your vids.
I bought from a seller on Amazon (Ford New Holland Aftermarket). Thanks for watching!
pertronix 1247XT is what youre looking for , not sure if yours is front mount though. side mount is PerTronix 1244A but youll need a 3ohm flame thrower coil
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here's a link to the kit if anyone needs it, cheers!
I would have left it with the points. Especially since you invested in a brand new distributor. IMO, Pertronix is the cheaps, poor product.
There’s no 8n jubilee never made one.The jubilee was a1953 and also the Golden Jubilee
Same ignition system in the Jubilee, 8N and NAA models.... That's what the title means. Thanks for the comment!
Great Video! So I put mine in, and now it seems to backfire out of the intake?? It is as bizzare as it sounds. Not quite sure what is going on; any suggestions?
Sounds like the firing order is wrong or you need to reset timing (move the distributor back and forth)
Don't buy these. I have had two. the first failed after two years. When I went to install the second I discovered that the dist cap post for the number 3 cylinder had never seen a spark. The second failed after a year. At 90+ dollars a pop...not worth it.
My experience is not the same, mine is still working without flaw.
I have had mixed results similar to the both of you, MF234 great no problem but I sold the tractor after 3 years , ford NAA used for plowing,finish mowing 8 acres every 2 weeks and driveway maintenance multiple issues to the point I'm going back to points next time I'm giving up, an old ford generator no problems 6 years , 1010john Deere verdict still out just got second one after a year and half of bush hogging and many various boom pole tasks. I had one rigged up on a 4cyl mercury that I could forget about it never had any issues again.....for NAA is pissing me off though I love that tractor but the pertronix kit just ain't right for that thing , this is why I watched this video to see if this guy is doing anything I'm not..nope same ways just a picky ol ford set in her ways I guess
@KM I'm officially done with them myself, my buddyloves them on his and here's the difference I think..he uses his tractors for little 20 min spurts of something here and there , I work the hound out of mine and one set of points out last these things, in reference to my above post where I say verdict is still out on the JD1010..yeah I'm back to points on it.