Falling In & Out of Love With The NC/Mk3 Mazda MX-5 - 2.5 Year Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 มิ.ย. 2024
- What's 2.5 years of ownership been like after the honeymoon period? Why have I fallen out of love and back in love several times? How reliable has it been and would I ultimately do it again in hindsight?
Let's find out!
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00:00 - Intro
01:12 - Dislikes First!
01:42 - Design Flaws
04:09 - Reliability
05:00 - My Pet Peeves
05:55 - Driving Review
09:35 - Falling Out Of Love
10:50 - Falling Back In Love
11:40 - Falling Out Of Love...Again
12:53 - Falling Back In Love... AGAIN
13:36 - My Thoughts On Mods
15:03 - Running Costs
17:10 - The Verdict - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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Since 2001 I have had 9 mx5s (4 NB2.5s, 1 NC3 and 4 NC 3.5s. I sold number 8 because I was finding it too difficult too get in and out of. Six months later I bought number 9 because I so missed driving something that felt, and feels, like an extension of my body.They are special cars - and in more than 250000 miles the only thing that has ever gone wrong with any of mine was an electric window. So just hang onto yours.
Woooooow!!! That's absolutely mad!! 9!!! Hahaha! That's amazing! I've sadly JUST sold this (as I need the cash for my freelance video career at the moment, nothing to do with the car itself really) but my intention is to earn more from the short term investment and come back to a BBR spec NC in the future! Come back with a bang, buy one in a more vibrant colour when I'll have even more appreciation of missing it!
Wich model nr 9?
@@bimmer332 now on number 10 a 2012 NC sport black on Meisters (ND is too cramped).
@@richardcoates4471 yes, agreed. I’ve had 2xNA and an NB2.5 and looked at an ND but couldn’t get on with the interior at all. It’s just too tightly packaged. And in RHD, the sensation of having to reach up and over the handbrake to change gear felt weird. Never “felt” like that in my old 5s.
@@smithp573 Same here! I've had a 1.6 NA for about two years, and I just bought a 1.8 RHD NA, and a 1.8VVT RHD NBfl.
The VVT engine will probably end up in the 1.6 NA, and the 1.8 NA I plan to restore it and keep it OE...
I don't see myself driving anything else in the future (if I do, I'll still keep at least one miata!)
The NC was a Top 10 winner on Car and Driver 8X, which is more than any other Miata.
Wow!
When my daughter was shopping for a car, I saw a beautiful, shiny, little red convertible MX-5 in the middle of the showroom. I told my daughter if it is a manual, I’m getting it. It was a 2016, with only 20k on it.
It was truly an impulse buy.
Best car ever! I love it! 🚗
What a stunning purchase! Congratulations!
The most fun car ever! I have professionally repaired cars for almost 50 years. I have driven all kinds of cars. I have never not smiled while driving any Mazda MX-5. They are all great cars.
Couldn't agree more!
We bought a 2001 in 2014 with 50,000 miles on it. It’s a summer only car, so in my climate it sleeps 6-7 months. It now has 69,000 miles. The past 3 years we have taken it on “adventure.” We drive out 500 miles or so and then drive around towards home (ish). Top down. No interstates. No reservations. It’s always a great trip. Mountain roads are fun to carve. Scenic cruises are lovely. Getting towards the end of our 10th Miata season. I don’t think we’ll ever give up this car until we can’t get down in it.
This is such a stunning comment! Living the MX-5 dream!
Owned a nc-1 for four years, agree with everything you commented on. My main complaint is the lack of support in the seats. The thing I love about it is, it makes me feel like I am getting away with something when driving. Enjoy!!
Totally agree! I forgot to mention that! I forget how great it is to be sat in a proper sports seat again with properly hugging bolsters!
The Mk 4 has a boot switch , anyway , if you're dim enough to leave your keys in the boot, you deserve trouble. I've had two Mk 3s and two Mk 4 s , both from new . The only car for me , and at 85 years , top down all year round , and my only ccar , there is nothing to beat it .
I miss my 2013 PRHT Club. I had two 1995 NA. Yes the NA are lighter, but people tend to over look that the NC has 2 extra airbags, more interior space, and a much more safe and rigid chassis. So it's not that the extra weight was for nothing.
Owned my MX5 NC MK3 for 2 years now, made so many quality improvements such as BC coilovers, GCFABRICATIONS roll bar, rota grid wheels, Scorpion exhaust system, alcantara bucket seat, TRS harness, alcantara steering wheel, carbon fibre track door cards, Mtech brakes, yellow stuff pads, Dave fab engine bits, Cybul strut braces, precision customs gear and handbrake knobs, genuine leather gaiters, under seal protection and an Avery Dennison wrap. It’s in storage during the winter months and I love tinkering about with it over the winter. I use it as fun summer car, driving to the coast for the weekend and attending many car shows. It’s a great way to meet other car enthusiasts and I would never sell it. I’ve spent a lot of money on making the car exactly the way I want it.
That sounds like the absolute dream machine MX-5! I bet it feels like a car worth £40k with all those interior upgrades too! Like a Lotus that's easier to live with!
Anytime that you’d like to meet up and make a video of my MX5, maybe test drive and review it for yourself, just message me. Mr McNeil 😊👍
I used Phil Brough to install my GC Fabrications roll bar after watching your video. So thank you, much appreciated 😊👍
@@tristrammcneil352 that'd be brilliant!! Thank you so much! I'd love to do a comparison of it to something of similar value (including the mod cost!)
You and I actually had the same exact experience! I just bought a 21 club and moved to the countryside with a lot of straight roads, I also commute far for work which was tiring however I also found relief in all the things you mentioned... I now have a second car and my wife bought me a track day ticket. Thanks for sharing your experience. 😊
Great to see you back, I really love your vids 👌🏼
Thanks so much, Vortex! Your simple comment is one of the most uplifting ones! You'll be glad to know I'm coming back much more full swing next year, I'll have much more time on my hands compared to 2022 which has been nothing short of hectic!
Thank you again for this amazing video. I bought my first MX-5, it's an NC 3.5 Kuro edition last December after watching your videos. I fully agree, how much fun it is to drive an MX-5. Thank you again.
Thanks so much, Jay, I really appreciate it! And I'm honoured to have influenced your purchase pal, bloody glad it's not been a disappointment! They're just so, so involved and raw for the money aren't they!
Great video thanks. From Rochester,NY test drove one for the first time about a month ago and was so thrilled that I am now the proud owner of a 2007 NC PRHT 6 speed and I can't stop driving it, its fantastic.
Thanks so much, Terese and a huge congrats! Enjoy the best value sportscar on the planet!
Brilliant informative vid. My first summer coming up in my 1st NC 3.75 Venture. It's now my daily for the school run! Now looking into a track day on the back of this vid 👊🏻
Thanks so much pal!
If you're UK based, I really recommend Snetterton and Bedford Autodrome for first track days. They're such brilliant tracks anyway that you'd go back year after year, they're just great for being mostly (if not all) flat with huge, grassy run-offs if you were to be unlucky and spin out/overcook it. Also, there are enough straights that faster cars are very patient and don't do insane overtakes.
Great and well rounded review! Also your videography has massively improved!
Thank you so much, TAG! I'm really pleased that others notice the extra effort/improvement over time!
Spot on. I've had my 2006 mk3 NC for 3.5 years and have driven many cars over the last 25 years. The mk3 MX5 is easily the best drivers car for the money. You can have huge fun within the speed limit. Nothing else compares. A proper wheel alignment is a must too and keep the tyre pressures at a constant all round - the chassis setup is very precise and the pressures do make a difference.
Bought my nc2 a couple of weeks ago and love it. It's a second car so I just use it at the weekends when I feel like it and that feels like the sweet spot. Thanks for the video, watching this a few weeks ago cemented in my mind that I wanted to make the purchase!
This is amazing to hear! Really glad you took the plunge! Congratulations!
My mate just bought one, we gonna do it up so your mx5 vids much appreciated
Thanks very much Sanjee and glad to help!
Can't believe you've had it that long, really does say something for it! Great vid mate keep up the great work! 👌
Thanks mate, very much appreciated!
Two and a half years is long?? I owned my first generation Miata (1991) for 16 years. I've had my '76 Aston V8 for 19 years... It's all relative!
This is a really well presented and thorough owners review. You should absolutely make more videos
Thank you so much pal, I massively appreciate that. April is looking to be a quiet month for me work-wise, so it seems the perfect time to book some car reviews in! I adore putting them together, they're just time consuming when I'm already busy on the road shooting bits for work.
I need to step it up and make time, it's such a fun hobby really!
"A blank canvas" ... spot on. Some people like them the way they are and that's fine, but modding it is half the fun! Thanks for the detailed vid.
Many thanks pal! Hope to see you on the next one!
Owned mine since new in 2007. Love it. Headlights access bonkers. Also had calipers binding. But in every other way love it.
The 2nd generation Mazda6 also had that headlight issue.
My 2011 MX5 does have a “ button on the boot” as well as a remote release by the drivers left knee.
IMO it’s the perfect second car and once the kids (and wife) have moved out it’s the perfect car.
It never fails to make me smile.
Thanks for the review. Just bought 6th MX5.
Absolute gold, thanks for this review. I’m looking at buying a hard top NC.
Thanks so much, Ryan, I'm really glad it helped! I'd go for the retractable hard top for sure!
Highly reliable roadster. Built for driving, not repairs!
I´ve had my NC MK3 for one and a half years now and I love it. I enjoy driving it through the windy roads of the mountains in Alicante but also took it to the Alps last September and that was a pure bliss. I also have a Mazda 3 for everyday use but I have no intentions of selling my Miata while I am still able to get in and out of it ;)
Inspired by the Lotus Elan & perfected by Mazda.
So thankful for your videos!❤
Thank you so much pal, I'm hugely appreciative of kind comments like yours - it makes all the many hours totally worth it
Had experience of one of these (Mk 3.5 with the better ride height) from new (my ex wife's) for many years. The biggest and best modification (as you cover) from new was a suspension set up at Centre Gravity. Took it there 2 weeks out of the dealership and it genuinely transformed the steering. The level of weight and feeling added with nothing more than adjustment was gob smacking. Had small subtle changes to how it handled cambers etc but the improvement to the steering was immense and worth the money alone.
Great video mate. It was actually your initial video of your MK3 that made me decide on a MX5, except I chose a MK2. I've had it for just over 8 months now, and of course I've discovered many drawbacks - but I've found little ways around them. The main one was trying to go camping with a MX5, I was going to sell up and buy myself a Volvo or Saab estate of some description before realising that I could just get a boot bag and add about 50-75ltrs of space to the car for longer trips. My Mrs has been really good at keeping my head on straight, and kinda pushed me to focus on adding bits to the MX5 to make it more my own - and through this I've fallen in love with the car more. I'm proud to own an MX5, and the community behind it is amazing. Some bits you mentioned about a roll bar and coil-overs are a must (I'd say) for all MX5s as it will increase driving experience. Thank you for making these videos, very informative. And thank you for being the reason I even purchased one in the first place, makes me feel good knowing I swapped a crappy Chinese 2019 MG3 for a £3000 MX5.
Hey Larvs,
This is my favourite comment I've read in ages! Thank you so much and I'm honoured to have helped you cross the line into MX-5 ownership!
That's amazing about your other half supporting the car, mine also has been super supportive and has told me not to sell it many times! It obviously shows how much joy these cars bring to us! And absolutely, the community is superb!
If you're ever in the South East area of the UK and fancy seeing the car on the channel, I'd be chuffed to film it - I've not driven an NB before, let alone a nicely sorted one!
Huge thanks again for your kind words mate and happy MX-5ing!
I have a 2013 PHT NC3 and love the car , had alway had manual 5 Litre Mustangs , This car is way more fun to drive period. Doesn’t have the horsepower but still better than cars with twice the power. Greetings from Canada. Really enjoy your work.
Thank you so much pal I really appreciate it! And it's remarkable isn't it, it's just impossible to beat tiny, light and nimble cars!
I've had my '06 NC since 2010. Still puts a smile on my face. The only upgrades I've done are an aftermarket stereo head-unit, a behind-the-seat powered subwoofer (won't fit under the seat), and a Moroso aluminum engine coolant reservoir. The original plastic one failed (I later learned that this is a common occurrence), leaving me stranded on the highway. Fortunately I was only a few miles from home.
That sounds delicious!
Thanks for the great video. I have owned two used Miata's. The first was a 1999 that i owned from 2005 to early 2014 and the second, that i still own, is a 2010 that I purchased at the end of 2013. Your summary at the end matches my experience. The car is so much fun that i can't really contemplate selling it. Also, both have been extremely reliable and affordable (regular gas, high reliability, low entry price, high resale value). There is a reason of course that so many of these cars have been sold. They are amazing cars and an amazing value. Thanks again.
Sorry for the late reply, I very much appreciate your comment sir!
Bruz it’s got to be the best: love/hate/love/hate/love Vid on NC MX5, in the history of MX5 Vids = well done
This is one of my favourite comments I've read in a while! ♥ Thanks very much pal!
Superb to the point video! Watched it twice.
I ordered my '13 GT PRHT new. Many,many modifications to it. I installed a Flyin Miata Supercharger myself. I left the tuning to a professional, but the rest I did. I love this little car. It's been a great Roadster over the 10 years as of January 27,2023.
Thanks so much pal, much appreciated! Yours sounds like an absolute beauty and it speaks volumes that you've had it for a decade!
@@petrolpoodle6617almost a decade, time for an antifreeze change in the engine coolant and the air to water Supercharger system.
I absolutely loved my NC MX-5 (Miata here in the colonies) A one-owner 2006 I bought in 2016 with 95k on it. The previous owner took meticulous care of it and it looked and drove like a new car. My previous experience with a "slow" little sports car was a 1960 Porsche 356B Roadster so I knew what a "momentum" car was. I had to pass it on as failed back surgery erased my ability to use a clutch. My "commute" was 2 miles and I generally rode a bike, so it really was a fun car. In 20k miles it was absolutely trouble free (I did have to replace the rear Bilsteins as one developed a serious leak). At 5'11" the cockpit was tight but I didn't have any problem on some longer drives up and down the Southern California coast. What the MX-5 was made for. The more you pushed it the better it was. I really miss it!
I'm in the U.S. and own a 2008 with the PRHT. I've had it five yrs. now and still enjoy it. The value factor along with the fun factor make this a very good sports car to own. Add in reliability and it's a no brainer.
It's very hard to drive anything else without it feeling podgy and uninvolved, isn't it!
Thank you. excellent review. I'm looking for something to do a road trip in, Europe and something I can use at weekends. Was looking down the classic route but I think I've found the car. Cheers
Glad it was helpful! You'll absolutely love it, they're incredible cars! Do look super hard for rust on these or go on an owner's group and find someone who's been a bit of an enthusiast who's looking to sell :)
Spot on! My 2008 MX-5 has been my daily ride since 1010 and I strongly agree with your observations. I also use my wife’s Honda Civic for occasions when more cargo or passenger capacity is required. While the MX-5 excels on winding country roads, don’t underestimate it in traffic. Its small stature, unrestricted visibility, short breaking distance, and nimble lane changing ability make it an excellent choice for challenging commutes. such as on the Southern California freeways.
This is a great review, and had 100% made up my mind about getting a MK3.5, ive had SLK's etc in the past but the roofs have leaking problems (which i have had to DIY deal with to avoid a 4k bill) on a car that should be premium. I miss having a convertible but don't want that constant anxiety thinking its gonna cost me an arm and a leg. The only slight niggle is the noise factor, i do love have V6's etc as they are an event, but again an event which comes with more upkeep costs. Think ill just have to get a decent pipe on it and enjoy!
That's awesome, I'm really glad it's helped! You'll adore it, they do recalibrate what driving fun can be!
I bought my used NC-1 from a reluctant seller, his wife was about to have their first baby so she told him they needed a bigger car. I can’t imagine a smaller NC from the a, b, and d models because this one is small but I love it. I was able to stuff a 17x9 wheels with 245 40 tires and is sitting lower thanks to coil overs. The suspension and wheel changes resolves the design issues and many people unfamiliar with MX5’s have asked me if I had a wide body kit. Great fun cars and reasonably cheap.
Love this video. Particularly since I also have the PRHT and discounted the idea of a roll bar until I saw what you have. A bar that is actually above the seats. I rewatched the beginning and see you lowered the seats. That helped with the appearance of the roller in my view. What model/company is your bar from?
Thanks very much, Greg, glad you enjoyed!
The company is GC Fabrications, be sure to buy the right one for the right type of NC (PRHT vs softtop version) and also the Jass Performance lowering brackets require getting them right - ie driver's side and or cloth vs leather I think...
I’m a new driver at 39 and I’m seriously considering buying one of these for myself to make up for lost time. You’ve certainly not put me off the idea.
Absolutely do it, you'll see so many owners speak of how they've had more fun in these than their big expensive cars of the past! 😁
I totally agree. And I'm perfectly qualified to say that having recently bought one and done a track day. Although mine's the early NC without the slanted headlights.
Thanks, Paul!
I'm glad you've experienced the utter joy of MX-5 track driving too!
@@petrolpoodle6617 Was yours at Bedford too, by any chance? 🤔
I had a Mk3 from new for 14 years - and absolutely nothing went wrong with it. It was superb. I traded it in 2021 for an ND2, the latest MX5. Which is even better! Except the steering - the hydraulic rack on the Mk3 is better than the electric one on the ND - but there's not much in it - the ND is pretty bluddy good in that respect too. And it's 181bhp and lighter than the Mk3 so it handles and goes better!
Before the Mk3 I had a 2004 Mk2, also from new, which I traded for the Mk3 in 2007 so I had that just 3 years before the foldy hard top roof and extra room in the Mk 3 persuaded me me to upgrade.
Your so called 'design shortcomings' are surely just facts of life with a small sports car. Obviously the boot is small, and obviously you are too tall to comfortably fit it. I suspect even changing a headlight is as awkward for most cars as in the MX5.
My wife has a CX-30 for the times we need more than 2 seats and serious luggage space - but that's not what MX5s are about.
I absolutely adore mx5s. I had an NB8a. Exhaust, roll cage, deep dish rims, heavy clutch, hardtop as well. It was absolutely phenomenal. I sold it 5 years ago to get V8 5.7l Commodore (also manual). Ive regretted it ever since.
So, I'm selling my Commodore now to get back into an MX5.
Test drove an NC for the first time in my life yesterday and I literally started giggling as I took off I couldn't believe how fun it felt and I am absolutely enthused with it. Can't wait to get an NC now.
I love this comment pal! I really hope you're able to grab yourself an NC soon and come back to the club!
@@petrolpoodle6617 got one! An 06 with 96000kms. Soft tops a bit shagged as it's the original but it's still water tight.
Also have an NC and the same knob 🤣. I agree with all your points save the boot, can actually get a lot of stuff in there. Love it so much
It's surprising what you can get in there isn't it! I've found it perfectly do-able for all bar a week's holiday with a gal! Once you need to pack options you're big in trouble! hahaha Boot bag seems the perfect solution!
Nice review that I also fully agree with like other respondents. I have had an NC hardtop for 16 years now (since 2007) still love it to bits. Reigns supreme on the twisty roads. I had a WRX y2000, and a A45 AMG Y2014 they are faster point to point, particularly the A45, but the MX5 still tops them when it comes to fun quotient!
I love this! My dad had among two other STIs a 1998 WRX STI (grey import from Japan!) and it has such a special place in my heart. I loved the noise and pure acceleration excitement but man, as you say, the MX-5 is just such a raw driving experience in comparison to everything south of a Caterham or Lotus!
Great video, keep enjoying! Edit: how would you compare it to your swift sport? Besides the safety of the roof
Thanks so much, H!
Ya know what, I genuinely had *many* more laugh out loud moments in my Swift Sport! Despite the better steering, gearchange, driving position, drivetrain layout, engine noise and speed of the MX-5 it's the Swift that has the more playful chassis that gives you the confidence to play around with cheeky lift- off oversteer etc. I just used to cackle in that car all the time and yet didn't have any gripes to complain about. The boot was EVEN smaller in the Swift but having rear seats meant I could realistically transport plenty of things and people plus I got 50mpg most of the time!
If I could only have one it'd actually be the Swift. If I was buying a track-focused toy and I lived in Scotland or Wales then I'd choose the MX-5, but truthfully I had more fun in Wales in the Swift both times!
Yes, yes, yes! I love my nc miata! Unfortunately, my daughter loves it more. Only complaint is trying keep the soft top drain holes cleared. And more power would be nice so I could keep nearer to my son's c5 z06 vette.
Great video, i have a grey mx5 nc sport tech and a civic type r fn2 championship white and live in Hastings! Love both cars. Thank you
Thanks Scott and what a fantastic two car garage you have there! You've got all bases covered! Where are your favourite roads for a good blat then? Out towards Pett Level/Rye?
@@petrolpoodle6617 My favourite route is down new link road to ninfield and then back road to The Lamb pub on the marsh road. And return from Pevensey to Hertsmonceaux castle.
Really enjoyed this review. I own a 2005 Launch Edition NC, complete with the BBR Super 200 kit installed by a previous owner. I can totally relate to the feelings of falling out of love with it, as I feel like I've been falling out of love with mine, and I've even started looking at stuff with more special engines, like the Jaguars etc, but much like you, every time I go out in it and drive it *properly* I remember what I like about it and genuinely for the money I paid for this, you're not getting a more fun car, period. I paid £6500 for mine, but the BBR kit is worth £2100 alone, and it comes with a hard top which I will likely sell for between £500 - £800, and it came shod with 4 brand new Michelin PS4 tyres, so really I think it was great value overall for a RWD sports car with 200 bhp @ 7300 rpm and only 1100 kg!
If you get the chance I really recommend you at least look into fitting an uprated manifold and remap, as it unleashes a lot of character and noise as well as giving another 20 or so BHP and similar torque. Mine has that along with uprated cams and panel filter, and it's a surprisingly quick little car for what it is, the midrange in particular feels very muscular, and it's possible to get a real move on without revving it much past 5K now, although it will happily continue revving up to nearly 7500! On your car with the later engine, it will rev even higher, probably to almost 8000!
As I was saying, I have been thinking about trading for a Jag XKR, 370Z or something like that, but then I remember it won't handle anywhere near as well, and it will likely cost massively more to run, and as someone who gets anxiety about big bills with cars, I'm not sure I'd enjoy that constant feeling of doom and the emptying of the wallet that comes with it. So I am thinking of keeping it after all, and maybe adding a good cat-back exhaust to make it a bit more shouty and hopefully give it a more special feeling (it worked on my old MR2 Roadster!), and then perhaps also some Meister coilovers (I'm on Eibachs at the moment) then get the alignment re-done. Add a Pioneer stereo like yours and that will really be all it needs to be a wonderful little car for not much money. Although the temptation is always there to go whole hog and go for some ITB's but that's a lot of ££££ for a little more power and a more noise (the main motivation!).
Super video though, and very insightful given my current thoughts on the subject :)
Thanks Paul,
I totally agree, once you've owned a well set up MX-5 it makes everything else seem flabby or expensive for the fun you'll get! It sounds like you've got an absolute winner there and one to keep!
@@petrolpoodle6617 funny thing is I'm picking up a Boxster S tomorrow! I will always stand by with what I've written, but just feel I want something different, a bit more refinement, a sonorous engine, and a feeling of specialness. I am prepared to accept that it won't be as much fun for the most part in exchange for other areas, and of course, it'll cost me substantially more to run for the privilege.
Nice video. definitely feel the same about the boot, mine is still working fine but I tend to close the car before going to get whatever is there and always check twice if my keys are in the pocket. Dunno if it helps but I've found out that the boot button won't work if it is close with the key remote control, even if the car is topdown and you open it manually. I suppose it kinda makes sense that if you leave the car open outside it wont allow access to opening the boot.
One thing I can't relate on if on fuel costs, mine likes to average around 10.5-11.5 l/100km the best ever I got was on a motorway around 8.0l/100km, I do like to push it a bit but it's not like I'm pulling to 5k rpm all the time, I usually go up to 2-3k then shift up. But then again living in the city and it being know as the city of the 7 hills probably doesn't help, still I feel it's excessive tbh.
A pet peeve I have with mine is that 100km/h+ the noise from the windows is quite annoying I wonder if replacing the rubber seals could fix it or it is just what is suppose to happen from a convertible.
Mine is a 2014 2.0 sports PRHT, mostly stock though I do have the Il Sportive exhaust that sounds glorious, if a bit loud when in confined spaces like underground parking lots.
Edit: Also I do thank you for your previous video it was one of the best of several that actually convinced me to buy the little guy :D
Thank you so much, Bruno, that's amazing to hear. I feel honoured to have influenced your epic purchase!
Fantastic video thank you, agree totally I absolutely love mine and it really is special, having driven far faster more exotic stuff over the years. Can you point me in the direction for the spec of the fast road setup you recommend, I haven't done the alignment yet, and being in London I won't find an MX5 specialist so would love to hand the exact spec over to a local place and get it done asap. I still need to cope with MANY speed bumps btw (which it also does better than anything else). Cheers.
Thanks very much, Richard :)
I wish I had the exact numbers to hand but it's the only time I haven't had the printed numbers handed to me. I'd recommend giving The MX-5 Restorer guys a call (based in Eastbourne/Pevensey) and seeing if they can point you in a trusted direction near you.
Otherwise, see if you can come on down and make a seaside trip of it all! They're superb guys and the alignment was fantastic.
@@petrolpoodle6617 many thanks, any excuse for a drive so you've sold it to me. Cheers.
"Take the long way" (home) ..and listen to supertramp on the radio 😁
I have a 2010 Sport Tech NC 3.5, paid 8.5k for it two years ago….. love it. Not long after I took it to BBR to have the Super 200 upgrade with the full GT exhaust. Also over time I’ve added a new Pioneer head unit, wheels refurbished, four new tyres and full under seal to keep rust at bay. Finally I took it to Roddisons last week and had Meister CRD suspension installed. Collected it last Thursday and WOW……. it’s amazing. Fully aligned and corner weighted, feels very direct and analogue. The NC is such a good car, I hope to keep mine for a long time. So far I’ve spent about 15k including the car, should I have bought a Boxster? Down in Cornwall now in the family wagon, a Sharan. Missing the MX. Great video, really enjoyed it.
That sounds absolutely f'in incredible!!! What a serious machine!!!! And thank you very much!
I’ve always liked the curious cars…. maybe due to finances. I ran a Alfa 164 24V QV for a few years, then an Avantime, yes one of them. Had that car for 3 years, brilliantly stupid. If I had a garage I’d have one again. A Merc SL 129, probably my favourite, as for a few K you’re a spot the ball winner. A couple of E30 325i Sports, various other Alfas, Talbot Sunbeam and XR2s. I wish I could afford a decent 911, but maybe I could run a 968 as a a daily? The NC takes some beating but I regularly drive from Sheffield to the Lakes or Whitby and although I like it, my wife Sally finds it a bit agricultural. Just so anyone reading knows, drive the road from Pickering to Whitby, that runs via Stape and Goathland. So not the Fylingdales road, adjacent almost. I think it’s one of the best bits of road in Yorkshire. In fact it’s better than any of the three Adam and the Ants albums.
I can't believe that 10 days ago (dec 4th) the weather was that good!
😂 You can tell I filmed this in late September I think! I've been flatout and it's taken ages to find time for! Next year is better though, fully freelance and I'll have much more time for the channel!
To me, it was the coolest, most beautiful MX-5 ever made.
Great, informative video.👍
Glad you liked it and thanks very much!
Great vid! Have you ever driven a mk3 MR2? Would be interested to know how you find it compared with your MX5
Not yet but I'd love to actually, it's always been on my radar as the ultimate budget convertible that won't explode and cost a fortune!
1 year in and love it. NC 3.5 sport. Wheel alignment will be booking it in for that.
I'm curious I was thinking of rust treatment did you do this?
Also track day with stock car that's really interesting. Where did you do?
By the way we have chatted before I had the seat lowered was excellent, still a tight fit at 6ft 3 but now feels more like a glove rather than feeling slightly too big for the car.
Are you considering any more mods or keeping it fairly stock. I had so much planned for the car and then got it and was like this is so good as is. But have been tempted by the bbr suspension set up.
Thanks for a great video.
Hi Graham,
I'm sorry it's taken a while to reply - I do these in monthly batches and I've been flat out with work lately. Let me try and quickly tick off the bits you mentioned :)
Wheel alignment - absolutely go for it, it makes a world of difference! The MX-5 Restorer in Pevensey was my favourite one.
Rust treatment - lots of places offer this but stupidly I never got round to it. The new owner has done it immediately :D You'll need about £550+ for it but worth doing to keep it safe long term, someone recently commented that they had to scrap theirs as it was literally unsafe for the road and beyond repair!
Track day - I really recommend Snetterton (Norfolk) or Bedford Autodrome (Bedford haha) to start. They're really fun tracks but almost perfectly flat if not flat, with very wide track and generous run offs. There's also always a long straight only a few turns away so faster cars don't bully, they just wait for the straight to pass. And it's essential to get the £20-30/free tuition. My friend who's done 20+ track days still benefits from a professional giving pointers on particular tracks :)
Seat lowering - glad you've had success with it, it makes such a difference doesn't it!
Mods - I've sadly sold it now but I do intend to buy another one day with BBR bits already done :D!
once again fantastic video on the MX5 NC2. I do wonder though, is the Suzuki Swift Sport 1.6 still your daily?
Thank you so much pal!
The Suzuki Swift Sport was my daily from March 2018 to March 2020 and it was a hugely reluctant sale to buy the NC2 MX-5! It was genuinely the best overall car I've ever owned and couldn't recommend it more! I have no regrets as the MX-5's been awesome in its own right and the catalyst to starting the channel. But yeah loved it!
@@petrolpoodle6617 I am finally eying one of these myself :D though the 1.8L version, anything you know about those engines and their reliability? Are they as reliable as the 2.0l?
@@IguanaFilmArts I actually don't but unless you're saving lots of money over a 2.0 I'd go for that one every time
I rented a 2013 Club and had a blast with my son driving around Bloomington, Indiana. Got a lot of smiles too. 😀 People love Miatas.
That is brilliant! And you're right, they're just joy machines!
Your first video made me buy a MX5 Mk2 (as first own car). I dont regret the decision, lots of memories attached. I thought of selling it to get a more practical 4 seater. But I think I love the car too much to do it
That's amazing! I'm so glad to hear! And those NBs are especially SO much car for your money that you might as well keep it as long as possible!
Don't do it dude. I had a 98 nb modded with all the goodies and sold it for a 6 speed V8 Holden Commodore 5 years ago, and have been itching to get back into one ever since.
Absolutely loved this video - yours were one of the inspirations for my NC purchase! I'm 24 and the proud owner of a 2013 2.0 Sport - very similar spec to yours. I completely get what you're saying though about looking at other options before cleaning the MX,5, going for a proper drive and falling in love again. You have got me thinking, however that I definitely need to find an MX5 specialist and get the alignment sorted as I sometimes think it feels a tad wooly and I think I would notice the difference after 14 months ownership. Does anyone have any recommendations in Cumbria/the North West?
You'll also be glad to hear I'm due to take her on track for the first time in the new year, can't bloody wait!
Thank you so much, James, this comment is a real boost! So glad to have been part of the persuasion, they're bloody magical aren't they!
100% get that alignment sorted! Join the MX-5 Owner's Club or the NC Europe one on Facebook and see where people recommend on there :)
@@petrolpoodle6617 sorry for the slow reply mate, but I'm glad to hear it! Absolutely can't beat it for a first proper sports car.
I'll have a look, I'm on the page already and really do fancy getting it sorted!
Hi James, don't know if you got sorted in the end, and my suggestion might be too far for you to travel, but AK Automotive in Rowlands Gill near Newcastle are the top boys around here for MX5s and they have all the gear to do the alignments. Great lads and reasonably priced.
did you see the difference after you made the alignment?
thx
Is this a relationship vid? Seriously, though, excellent work. I think you climbed the honest to goodness dopamine mountain all the way to its peak as only exclusive few have. Germanic reliability PTSD and mortality considerations aside, you stayed the course. 2.5 yrs. is a victory price in this category. In the end, it may be a matter of situational-best judgment... and choosing the dynamic option. Maybe that's the takeaway.
That intro made me laugh! Hahaha Thanks John, much appreciated.
After shooting this video I have sadly JUST days ago sold the MX-5 but thought I'd do another video on that or just make a short mention of it in the next video - it was actually simply to free up some finances for more expensive video gear and to aid the freelance part of my journey now. So kinda didn't feel worth adding into this video as a post-shoot segment. I'm thrilled though that it's gone to a subscriber who knows the full truth about the little knock etc and is made up with the car. Great to see their day 1 excitement and he's already rust-protecting it as he said he wants to keep it for life!
Late to the party but thanks for your informative and honest review.
I very reluctantly had to sell my Boxster S as it was becoming too expensive to run.
The replacement NC Sport Tech was only a few thousand less than what I sold the Porsche for but my love for the Mazda is growing day by day.
My annoyances are minor. Windows not going back up after the roof is finished, and the exhaust is not making enough noise for my liking:-)
Finally, please let me know what ‘alignment’ is recommended… in SE London, any local recommendations?
The MX-5 Restorer on the edge of Eastbourne! Really worth it, the guys are huge fanatics who are in the MX-5 Owner's Magazine regularly. Best alignment I had of the 2 and it was only about £80! From SE London it's not actually that far and it'd make a lovely drive out if you avoid motorways and enjoy the county lanes!
Also huge congratulations and glad you're loving the MX-5 more each day!
I've had my 2012 Sport Black for 3.5 years, and I still love it. I've had similar experiences to you, sometimes falling out of love with it - especially when all the roads seem to have permanent roadworks near me, or traffic is slow, or I start to wonder if something more practical would be useful. But in all, it's just amazing - especially on country lanes, and even in 50mph zones.
Even the stereo, is one of the best sounding car stereos I've ever experienced.
Just brought my 2012 sport black, can't wait to pick it up next week..
@@benbrown1889 enjoy it! Such a great car. What colour?
@@joebasswizard pearlescant white with black details
@@benbrown1889 Same here! It's a beautiful paint job, and seems to get more attractive with age. Recently I've had loads of people commenting on it when I'm out and about.
Dear PP. I've owned my 2009 NC for 3 years and still love it. Thanks for the video. At the start you mentioned something about locking the keys in the boot. My GT has a hidden button to open it under the dash beside the hood latch. It also has a button above the plate to open it that is part of the keyless entry system as options besides the key.
Would love to see your opinion/review on an RX8 R3, it's got a solution to most of the problems you were on about other than reliability and fuel economy, I love being able to fully send it on a country lane and still being practical enough to fit 4 people in. Exactly the same gearbox as the MK3/NC just with more aggressive gearing too, would be super interesting to see your take on it.
I'd absolutely love to drive one! I always have wanted to see what they're all about! If you are anywhere near the South East and happy to feature it on the channel, let me know!
@@petrolpoodle6617 I'd love to see your take on it, I live in Bristol however but would be happy for you to feature it on your channel, would be an honor!
@@converge8008 that's really kind thank you! If I'm over towards you I'll let you know, I'd absolutely love that!
I've been driving mx5s since 2002,love them. Made the mistake in buying a new 40th anniversary rx8 in 2008,Kept it 10months and went back to another mx5.much more fun and better handling. I would love to see mazda stick a reliable rotary engine in the mx with 250bhp.dream car.
@@1teenybop oxymoron ?? a reliable rotary?
28 year, still love it, is my second car but i drove it more than suppose to be daily car, when i do long distance, i choose B road, make my trip more interesting n enjoy ... current 300k++ still stock engine
My E90 330i has given me reliability PTSD. Getting out of it and into my first NC (an NC2 20th anniversary), having had 4 NA and NB's. Can't wait.
Welcome back and what a cracking trim to return to!
Awesome video mate!!
Where can I find that same rollbar?
Thank you mate :)
GC Fabrications make them to order - remember to choose carefully between soft top and PRHT! Also if you go for the lowered Jass Performance seat rails, they're worth checking carefully too!
@@petrolpoodle6617 Thanks alot🙏
There is a button to open the boot right in the center underneath the lip. You do have to have the key in your pocket or close by to be able to pop the boot. I didn’t know about this until I had the car for a few months. But I have had my car since 2015 and love it!
Bizarrely this one just doesn't seem to have it, thank you for the advice and help though :)
@@petrolpoodle6617 Dang... interesting.
I currently have an Elise sat in the garage but i dont enjoy it as much as my NA Mx5, ive been considering one of these but maybe with a bit of a BBR package on it just to liven it up a bit.
A great video, I am in 100% agreement with all of it. I have owned only one, an NC1 GT. Purchased in the summer of 2016. Put way to much money into it in mods. Everything but forced induction. It’s small, it’s cramped, it’s no dragster. It does have a 2.5 but I still want more power. BUT, what keeps me loving the car is that whole horse and rider thing. My brother wanted me to purchase this M Roadster with a straight 6. Told me what a collectible classic it was…. As president of our local Miata club I felt guilty but I drove that little M roadster. What a let down, what a disappointment. talk about Horse and rider as one. That was more like rider and IKEA shopping cart as one. Absolutely no comparison. Even with all of the negatives, there is nothing like a Miata. .Thanks for the video,
Thank you very much pal and I totally know what you mean! I drove a Z4M Roadster for the first time this summer and whilst it's great compared to your average car it feels so numb in comparison to a Miata/MX-5!
Is that really true? Hops so as I too have put a lot of my money into my NC.
I have had my ND2 since late 2019 and know I will never part with it. Whilst there are considerably faster cars out there my car is plenty fast enough, and I think the sensation of speed is more enjoyable than more speed/performance that you feel a bit detached from. And that’s the point, you feel so involved in everything the car is doing. Driving round a roundabout at 25mph feels brilliant!
Obviously it isn’t that practical. If you want practicality and buy an MX5 you have bought the wrong car. But the boot is usable for shorter trips, weekends away and for cramming in shopping. When I go to the supermarket I tend to go via an unnecessarily long and indirect route :-) And over the 4 years I’ve owned the car I have never attempted to drive it economically at all. The total opposite in fact, and yet it has averaged 41mpg. Overall it is just amazing fun.
Just picked up my second MX5, a 2011 GT PRHT in Nov and LOVE it (sold my NB2 years ago and regretted it since) , so much fun to drive that I make excuses to do so. Need a quick thingamagig at that the corner store? Sure lets get the MX5 out! I am curious about your roll bar and the resulting plastics left after. How have they stood up after the trimming and removal etc? I would like the comfort of a roll bar but I don't want the look of a race car I want it to look like it came from the factory installed.
Brilliant! Welcome back and glad you've got an MX-5 to love again!
To answer your question the plastics look completely factory fresh and original, you'd never know anything happened. These plastic panels are designed to easily pop in and out so they just clicked back in place really.
In my original rollbar video the description has the details of the man who did the retrofitting for me, he'll be the man for the best advice :)
@@petrolpoodle6617 Thanks mate, very good to know! I live in Las Vegas so I'll have to do some research to find someone local to do the kind of job your man did but I agree that this mod is well worth it!
Had my NC3 for a year. Still loving it. Getting it checked over at Mazda in about a month (hopefully dealer warranty covered) with a slight idle issue and then its getting a catless header fitted (already have it in my garage) and then hopefully down to Indigo GT for Ecutek tuning. I have a Cobrasport Road Backbox fitted already so I'm hoping the manifold won't make it too loud.
I wouldn't do it again just because I'd like to try a totally different type of car (i'd probably go 3dr MK7 Golf R with DSG) as that is pretty much the opposite of the MX5 as far as performance cars go.
I like that thinking - the Chris Harris way of thinking. In that life is short and experiencing as many cars as possible is also a fun way to go about life, even if one could argue you should just stick with 'the best' for extended periods
@@petrolpoodle6617 yep. Funnily enough Chris Harris hates the MX5 though.
Picking up the car with the new headers tomorrow :)
Hi mate, a really excellent review and one that has confirmed my decision to get an NC in the summer. Interesting to see you've also owned a Mk2 SSS, is it possible to draw any meaningful comparison between the two? Specifically regarding handling/performance/enjoyment as opposed to practicality or reliability etc. Thanks
Hey Tom,
Thanks for your really kind words!
It's funny you ask that because for a long time of owning my MX-5 I'd said how the car is more capable, more visceral, better connected, faster etc, greater sensations from all of the inputs than the Swift Sport.....
BUT the Swift Sport is genuinely more fun! It seems odd but that chassis is just so, so playful and it has this personality that's hard to describe. The liftoff oversteer is such a huge part of that and the general confidence to really play beyond the limits and pull it back.
The MX-5 on track however is totally different gravy to the (still really fun) Swift Sport on track. It's where I had my favourite ever driving experience and that extra power, all those dialled in inputs and beautiful weight balance with RWD had me cackling as I drifted it about. I felt like Chris Harris and it was just amazing hahaha.
On the road they're so different though. The Swift has better memories of pure excitement and laughter on the road, I laughed more often. But the MX-5 has so many memories of driving in the sun, mad roof down sprints and generally just feeling really satisfying to drive even at low speeds.
I hope that helps, it's very much horses for courses but overall if I had to live with just one forever it would be the Swift Sport funnily enough! If I had to track one forever it'd easily be the MX-5!
@@petrolpoodle6617 Really appreciate your detailed reply, that's all useful and interesting info and I can see myself owning both in the not to distant future. NC in the summer though now a genuinely exciting prospect.
Your channel has easily enough quality to grow significantly so all the best with cars and with the channel in 2023.
@@freegs I bought my first MX5 NC Sport tech nav in May 2015 when It was brand new.
I couldn't afford to buy a sports car when I was 18 as I was in the R.A.F. and could only afford a motor cycle.
So I had to wait until I was 83.
Now nearly 8 years later I still love this car.
It is stored during the winter months and is only used with the roof down on fine sunny days.
The only problem I have had ? I have never been able to unscrew the aerial.
Guilty of locking my keys in the trunk! I've had mine for 10 years, and it has been my daily driver (was driving about 25 miles each way at the beginning, now about 7 miles each way), and I love it. When I finally retire it, or give it to my daughter, I'm going to buy another. I've never been as attached to a car as I am to my NC. Agreed on the alignment... when I bought mine, it went the next day for four brand new tires and a proper alignment.
Have mx5 nc turbo and I love it…mx5’s are special cars with the good and bad as every car but he have a soul and touch with the driver and this is the more important for me
Absolutely agree!
I live in California and have owned a 2000 MX5 that I put in 225000 miles on, until I hit black ice, and when over a cliff and rolled down the mountain. And lived. Then I bought a 2013 MX5 club, which now has 122000 miles. For me it is a great daily driver. Plus going to the builder supply shops or CostCo, I drop the top, and load up.
Oh my god you're so lucky to be alive! Wooow!! I love that you got back on the horse and haven't been scared out of convertible ownership! What great cars eh!
We would like to buy our first Miata. Should we go new or buy an old one? Thanks for this video. Very informative.❤
Hi Amy!
This is very exciting indeed!
The main benefits of this 2009-2015 (update of the 2005 model) over a brand new one are:
- More interior space
- Glovebox
- 4 proper cup holders
- Bigger trunk
- Better steering
- Hardtop roof fully retracts and gives you the full cabrio/convertible experience as well as a proper roof
- Better value for money!
The main benefits of the brand new Miata are:
- Warranty!
- No rust issues
- Much more modern interior and features
- Better fuel economy
- Faster with the most powerful standard engine in a Miata now
- I suspect it's safer in a crash but not certain
- Smaller overall footprint (Though do be sure you fit comfortably, it has less space inside than the Mk3)
- I personally think it's better looking
I can easily see why someone would buy either and be sure they have the right car, so whichever of those pros work best for you, have fun :)
You actually present well i hope your TH-cam continues to grow, if not TH-cam go for a tv presenting or sales job.
What a bloody lovely comment! Thank you pal, I really appreciate this. I definitely need to push the channel more and actually one day, that could be a dream job too!
nice video
don't know how you (and others) you get such good MPG (not sure I've seen over 35...)
mine is a '95 sport tech cabriolet,, had it for 11 years now) - mostly don't push it hard (a lot of commuting etc.)...
a a mystery...
Thank you and I think it all depends on the roads you live on and if you can get a long stretch of no interruptions and a sensible speed maintained. Otherwise your 35mpg is bang on really!
I bought my first MX-5 (a Mk3).. today. After suffering, driving a dog of a VW T5, that has broken down more times that I have had fish fingers, I'm looking forward to smiling again whilst driving. :-)
That's mega, Hugh! Enjoy my man, you'll absolutely love it. EVEN if you had problems with your MX-5 they're the cheapest sportscar to fix, so no reliability PTSD!
I just got an ND1 grand touring and still at 193cm tall I’m really enjoying it and making excuses everyday to go drive somewhere. Get stares and looks at every corner. I’ve driven mostly German cars last 20yrs and this is way more careless fun.
They're just magic and I love the ND too! Amazing that you fit in it at your height!
Added the PACO seat lowering rails and its even a better fit.
Had 3 MK3's - '06, '09, '15 (loved '09 the most for 2 yrs.). Moved on to a practical but fun '18 VW e-Golf. Little to no running costs with that and similar dynamic fun.
similar fun to a golf???
That's fascinating that the 09 was your favourite, how come? Was there a less sporty spec on the '15?
I’ve had my 2012 Kuro from new. It now has 43,100 miles on it of which about 11,000 have been done in Europe. I’m taking it to the Algarve again in June but I’ll admit I have some reliability anxiety since having issues with the BBR200 upgrade (long story I can’t be bothered with anymore). Small upgrades include stubby aerial, Pioneer head unit, Perspex windbreaker and up until the BBR, a Larini backbox that I had to get rid of due to intolerable drone noise. It killed me to take it off as it sounded unbelievable but I just couldn’t stand the increased volume level the new manifold created. I’ll sell it when I can’t get in and out of it (or if it lets me down 1000 miles from home 😊).
That sounds like an overall amazing car! I'm sorry to hear about the BBR upgrade not playing ball, that kit was always my dream upgrade! Have you got it sorted now?
@@petrolpoodle6617 I really don’t know yet as it hasn’t done more than 60 miles in one trip since last summer. I’m going to take it on a long run to the Lakes probably next month and then I should finally find out if the car is ready for a proper distance holiday.
Sorry to hear you had issues with your BBR Super 200, previous owner fitted this to mine, and I've driven it for 5000 miles, mostly kicking its head in, and it's been absolutely fine. Only thing I need to keep an eye on is the oil, which it does use, especially when driven like intended, but that's a characteristic of these early NC engines anyway.
I'm not surprised that your exhaust became too loud though with the Super 200 upgrade, as that manifold adds a lot of noise just on its own! I am thinking of an upgraded exhaust for mine, but ultimately, it's not required, if I do, I'll be careful not to get one too loud!
Great update, I was extremely surprised to see your car for sale recently on Autotrader and as my work takes me all over the UK I was going to contact you for a test drive as I was due to work in Eastbourne. When I saw it was no longer on Autotrader I assumed it was sold! I'm guessing you reconsidered and kept the car and I don't blame you. I do still want a Sport Tech mx5. Any advice on the head unit upgrade I would greatly appreciate. I am torn between the MX5 and a Suzuki Swift Sport, Both look great but I would love your thoughts on which is better, keep up the awesome content, cheers Seamus
Hey Seamus,
Wow! I can't believe anyone joined the dots!!! I'm impressed and sad that you didn't get the opportunity to come down and say hello!
Excuse the copy-and-paste nature of this next paragraph - After shooting this video I have sadly JUST days ago sold the MX-5 but thought I'd do another video on that or just make a short mention of it in the next video - it was actually simply to free up some finances for more expensive video gear and to aid the freelance part of my journey now. So kinda didn't feel worth adding into this video as a post-shoot segment given it wasn't about the car itself. I'm thrilled though that it's gone to a subscriber who knows the full truth about the little knock etc and is made up with the car. Great to see their day 1 excitement and he's already rust-protecting it as he said he wants to keep it for life!
I can absolutely see myself buying another NC in the future though, I'll build up some savings and probably wait on a BBR 185 or BBR200 spec one so it feels like coming back to a totally different car!
As for the Swift Sport, I had a similar comment below so my response to that was:
Ya know what, I genuinely had many more laugh-out-loud moments in my Swift Sport! Despite the better steering, gearchange, driving position, drivetrain layout, engine noise and speed of the MX-5 it's the Swift that has the more playful chassis that gives you the confidence to play around with cheeky lift- off oversteer etc. I just used to cackle in that car all the time and yet didn't have any gripes to complain about. The MX-5 has SO much grip that you have to be a bit nutty to provoke anything but unrivalled grip. The boot was EVEN smaller in the Swift but having rear seats meant I could realistically transport plenty of things and people plus I got 50mpg most of the time!
If I could only have one it'd actually be the Swift. If I was buying a track-focused toy and I lived in Scotland or Wales then I'd choose the MX-5, but truthfully I had more fun in Wales in the Swift both times!
@@petrolpoodle6617 Hi, thanks for taking the time to reply. Must have been a very difficult decision to sell the MX5. I've currently got a A6 Bitdi (325bhp Quattro) which is in the garage and there's talk of engine rebuilds etc so I may have to sell as is hence the reason for looking for an alternative. So the lure of a Japanese fun car is strong! Be sure to update us when you do get a new toy, cheers Seamus
@@seamusgallagher4316 you're welcome and I'm very sorry to hear of your car troubles, that's sounding painful 😔. I am already looking forward to my next purchase next year, it'll absolutely reach the channel!
Looking at getting one of these to replace my e46 convertible. I love the BMW but the running costs are quite high, it averages 19mpg on my commute to work and there is always something wrong with it. I end up spending my time on the weekends fixing it, whereas I could be doing something else.
I have an Audi B5 S4 Avant as second car so I think one of these NC MX5s would be great as a fun, cheap to run daily car as not too fussed on practicality!
That's a brilliant choice!! You'd love it!
I'm smitten... I always review the shizzle out of everything I buy, but more so with mechanical things. I've never driven an MX5, but I'm 80% certain that it'll be my next car. Your reviews have pushed me closer to 100%, and for that, I thank you! Fairly sure I'll go for an 09/10 plate, but will take on board your wise words and look out for the sport's package and LSD. Great format, and I love your style 👌
I test drove one a month ago and was so taken by it that I'm now the proud owner of a 2007 NC PRHT and absolutlely love it.
@Terese Farley UK purchase? I'm not sure what kind of budget... I'm thinking £5-7k.
Thank you so much, Iain! This comment really brightened my day when I read it, I was just out working and forgot to reply later on!
Thanks so much.
You'll bloody love it, be sure to look for rust and grab one of the 09+ facelifts for sure :) Best of luck!
@@petrolpoodle6617 really appreciate your reply. Keep doing what you're doing 👌
I'm buying one this week maybe. Top spec. Best l can get
I rented an NC2 automatic last year after my EF Civic was stolen and my Dakota needed suspension work. To quote Jeremy Clarkson, I left that drive a broken and distracted man. I had to have one. I ended up buying a red manual car, and it's been great. I thought the shifter knob felt cheap, and after it literally fell apart in my hand, I bought a solid steel weighted knob and now the shifter is God-tier. The back end felt really sketchy, but the rear tires were pretty worn and now with new tires all around it feels very solid even on trailing throttle.
However, I've always wanted a 2000s Porsche, and seeing that Boxsters are around the same value as NC2s, I started to consider trading the Miata. I went and test drove a couple Porsches, and now I'm really conflicted. In person, a 1st-gen Cayman looked and sounded more beautiful than I imagined through pictures. But to drive, especially the shifter, it didn't live up at all to the Porsche reputation of solid yet delicate tactile controls. The Porsche honestly felt, more than any other car I've driven, like an extra solid 1994 Saturn coupe, except with a wonderful engine. Now that's a better comparison than you'd think, but it wasn't so revelatory as to leave me broken and distracted. I still want one of those really badly, and I know the mediocre shifter can be upgraded, but the rational part of me is saying that the Miata is The Way. With the BBR 225 kit I think the engine would gain a lot of character, and I wouldn't be worried about the borderline-criminal design faults of the Porsche M96/M97 engine. Objectively, when I already have the Miata, the Porsche is best enjoyed on TH-cam. But... My God was it pretty.
Love this!!!
If you got a Boxster, I'd understand why: the larger cabin, better boot and even having a front boot too - they make it more usable, and hey the engines are undoubtedly more characterful. But having driven a 987 S Boxster, they just lack the driving personality of the MX-5. The car is practically glued to the road and corners so flat at any speed, I just found it was too on tracks for me. I love the MX-5 feeling like you're really driving it! And absolutely, the BBR packages regardless of cost really seem to add stacks of drama and excitement! The 200 is such good value for how much it adds!
Where can you rent one didn't think it existed
@@colinl5985 Turo app
Extremely refreshing and unusual review. Cars are like marriages, you never know what they're REALLY like until you're in them. Surprised about the wheel/headlight. Very un Japanese. Like a Megane. If the lever worked for the trunk, you wouldn't have to worry about the keys at all.
Thank you so much, I really appreciate that! And also what a golden quote!
Great video. Well........ Did you keep it?
Hey Purple Porker!
Sorry for the copy-and-paste answer here but had similar bits come up already!
After shooting this video I have sadly JUST days ago sold the MX-5 but thought I'd do another video on that or just make a short mention of it in the next video - it was actually simply to free up some finances for more expensive video gear and to aid the freelance part of my journey now. So kinda didn't feel worth adding into this video as a post-shoot segment given it wasn't about the car itself. I'm thrilled that it's gone to a subscriber who knows the full truth about the little knock, etc., and is made up with the car. Great to see their day 1 excitement and he's already rust-protecting it as he said he wants to keep it for life!
I can absolutely see myself buying another NC in the future though, I'll build up some savings and probably wait on a BBR 185 or BBR200 spec one so it feels like coming back to a totally different car!
Hi there, I had a 1.8 2008 mk3 it had done 34ooo miles when I bought it ,it was my very first sports car it was fantastic I even took it a road trip to Northern France for 2 weeks and yes luggage thing could have been a problem but we managed to get two suitcases in the boot. The mistake I made what's the tradeing it up for a Mark 4RF model but that's a another story.cheers Phil form Newark
Ohhhh sorry to hear the Mk4 was a mistake! How come? They look awesome from everything I know, though I wouldn't have fitted in one - having driven the Mk4 roadster anyway!
Far as I'm concerned I think the build quality isn't up to scratch and the lack of storage i.e. the silly Cup holders and no real glove box. And the electric roof is definitely sexy but not a real convertible.
Interesting and objective review. I've been considering getting an MX5 as a fun car for a while now. Had been considering an NB (Decent N/A's are now silly money!) but finding an NB that isn't riddled with rust seems like a massive challenge. So turned my attentions to the NC which seems to be as much fun as its predecessors but in a more modern package although think rust can still be an issue! Couple of questions - assume the 2.0 engine is the one to go for? there seem to be more 1.8's about but the performance figures look a bit lame! I see your's had the folding metal roof, any problems with this and does the extra weight affect the handling at all?
I love the PRHT for it's looks, it feels more weather proof and secure in my mind. Yes it's a bit more heavy, but nothing an average driver would really notice for road driving. It's a great car that will make you laugh out loud at times with just how fun it is.
Thanks very much Steve, much appreciated!
2.0 is definitely the one to go for! For the folding roof they're actually superbly reliable, don't age like a softtop and although there's 40kg extra weight the Fifth Gear Slalom test found no discernible differences or time penalty so I wouldn't worry! It's beautifully setup and I wouldn't have wanted the soft top after living with the hard top :)
@@petrolpoodle6617 Thanks for your reply. Fair point about the softtops, plenty of hard tops about at similar prices so worth considering I think.
The prht panels are actually polycarbonate I believe and not that heavy, the only issue is the commonly occurring paint blisters caused by the hygroscopic nature of the plastic itself. Unsightly it may be but otherwise harmless. It is however difficult to justify shelling out for repainting with no certainty that it will not recur.
With regards to the lack of support in the seats, I'm using an ObusForme backrest on the seat of my '06 MX-5 and it's making things much more comfortable...70 now and highly doubtful I'll ever sell this car.
Brilliant advice!
Excellent review, really informative. Regarding the crampedness, how tall are you? I'm looking at a 25th Anniversary but at 6'3", I'm thinking it could be too painful.
Thank you so much pal!
I'm 6ft exactly but I JUST before the video went live sold the MX-5 to a 6 ft 3'er and he just got in with my lowered seats. He's planning on perhaps changing to aftermarket seats for track use anyway but I'd try one out for yourself and see how you get on :) Just know you can drop the seat by 2.5 inches if needs be but it brings you closer to the wheel by an inch or so!
@@petrolpoodle6617 Awesome intel, thanks for coming back to me. My GF is 5'6" so with lowered seats she may struggle to see as she's mostly leg rather than torso. Bugger, looks like a Z4 might be the weapon of choice after all. Really appreciate your feedback though and I'm now going to subscribe and watch everything else - great channel.
@@thereismoretolifethanrolex hugely appreciated my man and best of luck! A Z4 is a great shout!
Hi mate, what grill surround do you have? Looks great
Hey pal,
I have no idea sadly, it's stock though. My version is the Sport Tech if that helps
Odd that it doesn’t have a button on the boot. My US spec 2006 does. It’s an electronic release right underneath the lid.
Same boot key problem on my Streetka. Now just don't engage the latch. It does stay down.