As someone who’s been running a 3D printing business for 4 years, I can briefly share my setups. I started with 6 Ender 3s. It was a headache but all I could afford at the time. Did a ton of upgrades to get somewhat consistent prints. After getting tired of the constant tinkering, i went with the Creality CR6-SE. purchased about 6 of these, 3 had faulty boards. Returned all 6 and fished out money for some used MK3 machines. I had close to 12 of these then as I transitioned into UV Printing, I slowly sold them and purchased about 12 Prusa Minis since they took up less space. Brings me to today. I now only print TPU. I was apart of the Bambu hype and purchased a x1C+AMS at launch. I had a ton of issues with it so I ended up selling it. I now have 6 P1Ps running perfectly with 0 issues. I think I was a little too early on the X1C and experienced issues with print quality and board issues. I now print TPU using a .6 nozzle at ludicrous speed and have a 99% success rate. I think the P1P is the better choice if you don’t need an enclosed printer. However, I’ve printed ASA on my Prusa’s with no enclosure and as long as you have a clean bead and squish the Z offset a little, you’ll be fine. I wish the P1Ps came out back in 2020. Oh yea. I have 3 Prusa MK3S+ machines and 5 Prusa mini+ for sale. 😊
@@Protoscopemy 11 year old son is having good success selling his prints at school, so I want to upgrade him to the P1P. Any tips and tricks you would recommend to get the best results with this machine? Thanks
I have 30 X1C and I print 95% PLA, I choose X1C because of the screen and the processor. Have 30 printers, I want the screen for ease of selecting prints. I have no regrets and plan to eventually add 30 more if business grows
Gentlemen, put your hands together for Ken's other lovely and talented printers, Mercedes and Mandi (who spells it with an "i" and dots it with a "❤"... 😅
We have 5) P1Ps and 1) X1-C AMS (door off/top glass top lifted all .06 harden with 2) P1Ps with hard extruder) The X1-C we bought 1st that got us into business do special runs for a product in a special industry not to be named. All printers run at least 7-12 hours a day. We like the P1P better since the AMS is 20% flaky with cardboard reels even with weight and side plates. We print all PLA and glittered PLA that get the fully hardened P1Ps and X1. We use the AMS like you do, as we run 1 color items. I am converting all P1Ps to side mount reels.
Basically unless you're printing ABS, the P1P is the way to go. Espeically with the app updates (for the lack of touchscreen in the P1P) and the fact that you can send prints from your computer to the printer, the touchscreen though nice is not a dealbreaker. AMS works with all BambuLabs models as well.
I am looking for an upgrade from years of tinkering with my ender. The constant maintenance and tune up is actually costing me money. I do not make parts to sell and just as hobbiest. I am still not sure which to get even after your video mainly because money is not an issue but then I think about is it worth it for just hobbies. Great video however.
I have a creality Ender 3 S1 that I could never get the first layer right or would have to start over re-print because of bed levelling issues. The draw to the Bambu for me is not having to spin wheels and run paper under the sensor to bed level. So I see that the X1C has a micro lidar sensor to help with levelling. Isn't this an important feature? I did not catch this being discussed. I notice the P1P does not have it but the x1c does - yet I assume if you prefer the p1p that micro lidar is not that important? Is the lidar extra insurance to getting prints to start without problems?
Hello i'm hesitating to get a p1p and i have a small cookie cutter business. In your opinion could the P1P be my savior caus right now i'm strugling a bit with m'y Ender 3 😂 thanks !!
Hey Ken, Good stuff as always. Thanks for giving out so much value in the videos you create! Wanted to know if there is anything that you needed to upgrade right out the box to get clean TPU prints? Also would be nice if you can share your settings for TPU printing. Once again, thanks for all the value you put out! Cheers!
I think if someone is still "figuring it out" with 3d printing and let's just agree that this is a vast industry where the owner can be on 2000 niches if they prefer a heart attack and liver failure, X1C might be a better one to go for. Imagine you get the P1p, you have fun and you realize you want to print ABS - DISASTER!
What would you say should I buy in germany: P1P -> 799€ and X1C -> 1349€, both without AMS. Its a much more difference than in your country. I want to print PLA and PA12 CF15 so the P1P needed to get a hardend nozzle build and extruder gears for around 40€. So there is about 500€ difference. Whats your opinion?
The whole "bed going down, grinds gear, goes up" ... I thought I was the only one who cringes and hates hearing that all the time! Glad to know I'm not alone hah
Hey Ken, awesome video man! Just wanted to see what settings you’re running with TPU on your P1P these days. I imagine after months of running these bad boys you’ve dialed in speed and quality. Thanks man!
Howdy Ken. So happy to hear your 3D business is growing well and that you've found the best printers for your work. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and perspective on these two printers. Take Care.
Hi Ken thanx, good vid. Curious, do you do your own 3d design work or have someone else do it.. Would like to know costs of having a designer create the print files.
Maybe Bambu will come out with a larger printer that you can give a pimp name 😏 Thanks for this! I’ve been under a rock with the P1P and didn’t even know about it and it’s different qualities. I got one of the first X1Cs after they launched and it has been a game changer. Thinking about getting more, but great to know about other options! Very cleanly edited video too 👌🏼😌
Ken, love the review. You stated that you print TPU on the P1P because of the cooling it has with the open sides. Will TPU print ok on the X1C or can it be a problem because it’s enclosed? (Any suggestions to make printing TPU on the X1C better.) Thanks for any info.
I have one of each and I do not do any commercial printing. I think it should be mentioned that you can use the AMS also on the P1P which is what I have on my X1C and the P1P. I, like you do not do a lot of multi color prints, but I’d like to have both of my printers loaded with the filament that I might want to use. It also has the ability to dry your filament, which is a plus. I come in from using totally bad slingers like the Prusa, which I have now gotten rid of. This thing is awesome.
What do primarily print? Do you want to print carbon fiber or Nylon? If yes the X1C is the better choice however either way you go you won’t be dissatisfied
@@OriginaldoBo I'm just starting out. so I'll probably go with P1S. love P1P but I don't have much ventilation in my room so I'd want the filter in P1S.
As someone who has had enders, prusas, and now bambu printers-- the bambu's are objectively better than all of them. Enders aren't even in the question since they're so cheap, but comparing mk3s+/mk4 to the p1p, the p1p blows them out of the water. It's not even close. Yes, it's true you sacrifice strength for print time, but if you don't need strength then who cares. Besides, you can always reduce print speed if strength matters and you will always get better quality than the prusa machines. My p1p prints 2-3x faster than my mk3s+'s did and with a 0.4mm nozzle compared to the 0.6mm nozzle I had on the mk3s+. It's an objectively better printer. The only way prusa might have a leg up is if their printers require much less maintenance over time. I have both the X1C and the P1P right now and they are both the most phenomenal printers I've worked with.
@@OriginaldoBo yes I have the money to buy proper printers for my business, obviously you dont and thats why you bought these. You can tell from your crappy watch you cant afford anything!
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So what’s your choice? P1P of X1C ?
Think I'm getting both. i need one for carbon fiber prints :D
X1C for me. Need those carbon parts.
Lol, not candy!
Went w/ P1P - now only $599 and includes the camera. But fully enclosed P1S is $699 - just doesn't have the hardened nozzle.
Starting our print farm. My daughter and I. We started with X1C but as specific products sell more. We are going with p1p's and adding a A1 mini
As someone who’s been running a 3D printing business for 4 years, I can briefly share my setups. I started with 6 Ender 3s. It was a headache but all I could afford at the time. Did a ton of upgrades to get somewhat consistent prints. After getting tired of the constant tinkering, i went with the Creality CR6-SE. purchased about 6 of these, 3 had faulty boards. Returned all 6 and fished out money for some used MK3 machines. I had close to 12 of these then as I transitioned into UV Printing, I slowly sold them and purchased about 12 Prusa Minis since they took up less space. Brings me to today. I now only print TPU. I was apart of the Bambu hype and purchased a x1C+AMS at launch. I had a ton of issues with it so I ended up selling it. I now have 6 P1Ps running perfectly with 0 issues. I think I was a little too early on the X1C and experienced issues with print quality and board issues. I now print TPU using a .6 nozzle at ludicrous speed and have a 99% success rate. I think the P1P is the better choice if you don’t need an enclosed printer. However, I’ve printed ASA on my Prusa’s with no enclosure and as long as you have a clean bead and squish the Z offset a little, you’ll be fine. I wish the P1Ps came out back in 2020.
Oh yea. I have 3 Prusa MK3S+ machines and 5 Prusa mini+ for sale. 😊
were you using TPU in the AMS? The manual says not to use TPU, so that couldve been causing issues if so
@@BenSilber No, I was aware of that. Never did.
@@Protoscopemy 11 year old son is having good success selling his prints at school, so I want to upgrade him to the P1P. Any tips and tricks you would recommend to get the best results with this machine?
Thanks
just give one a male name, you should be good...
Hahahahaha! I subbed just for that. I like humour heaps
I went with x1c as I wanted the wider range of materials avaliable. I am not a modder at all so out of the box state is what I am looking for.
I have 30 X1C and I print 95% PLA, I choose X1C because of the screen and the processor. Have 30 printers, I want the screen for ease of selecting prints.
I have no regrets and plan to eventually add 30 more if business grows
I love the printer screen
I have 5 Bambu printers and they are named after James Bond Girls
“These are my strippers” made me LOL🤣
Gentlemen, put your hands together for Ken's other lovely and talented printers, Mercedes and Mandi (who spells it with an "i" and dots it with a "❤"... 😅
They will be coming to a stage soon
We have 5) P1Ps and 1) X1-C AMS (door off/top glass top lifted all .06 harden with 2) P1Ps with hard extruder) The X1-C we bought 1st that got us into business do special runs for a product in a special industry not to be named. All printers run at least 7-12 hours a day. We like the P1P better since the AMS is 20% flaky with cardboard reels even with weight and side plates. We print all PLA and glittered PLA that get the fully hardened P1Ps and X1. We use the AMS like you do, as we run 1 color items. I am converting all P1Ps to side mount reels.
Strippers? Subbed! LOL
Basically unless you're printing ABS, the P1P is the way to go. Espeically with the app updates (for the lack of touchscreen in the P1P) and the fact that you can send prints from your computer to the printer, the touchscreen though nice is not a dealbreaker. AMS works with all BambuLabs models as well.
Already clarified it works well it’s just the extra printing if you want to mount on top of you watch and listen this was discussed
I am looking for an upgrade from years of tinkering with my ender. The constant maintenance and tune up is actually costing me money. I do not make parts to sell and just as hobbiest. I am still not sure which to get even after your video mainly because money is not an issue but then I think about is it worth it for just hobbies. Great video however.
I have a creality Ender 3 S1 that I could never get the first layer right or would have to start over re-print because of bed levelling issues. The draw to the Bambu for me is not having to spin wheels and run paper under the sensor to bed level. So I see that the X1C has a micro lidar sensor to help with levelling. Isn't this an important feature? I did not catch this being discussed. I notice the P1P does not have it but the x1c does - yet I assume if you prefer the p1p that micro lidar is not that important? Is the lidar extra insurance to getting prints to start without problems?
Hello i'm hesitating to get a p1p and i have a small cookie cutter business.
In your opinion could the P1P be my savior caus right now i'm strugling a bit with m'y Ender 3 😂 thanks !!
Yeah the P1P has been effortless
Hey Ken, Good stuff as always. Thanks for giving out so much value in the videos you create!
Wanted to know if there is anything that you needed to upgrade right out the box to get clean TPU prints? Also would be nice if you can share your settings for TPU printing. Once again, thanks for all the value you put out! Cheers!
I haven’t upgraded anything and use both P1P, and X1C for all my TPU prints for the store
p1p in mainland China is rmb3200, $430
Hi Ken
I liked the video soley because he called his printers strippers
A man of good taste I see
I think if someone is still "figuring it out" with 3d printing and let's just agree that this is a vast industry where the owner can be on 2000 niches if they prefer a heart attack and liver failure, X1C might be a better one to go for. Imagine you get the P1p, you have fun and you realize you want to print ABS - DISASTER!
What would you say should I buy in germany: P1P -> 799€ and X1C -> 1349€, both without AMS. Its a much more difference than in your country. I want to print PLA and PA12 CF15 so the P1P needed to get a hardend nozzle build and extruder gears for around 40€. So there is about 500€ difference. Whats your opinion?
You sold me at the strippers part 7:26
Should be mail strippers on the next machines. If on one complains, is that sexist ?
The whole "bed going down, grinds gear, goes up" ... I thought I was the only one who cringes and hates hearing that all the time! Glad to know I'm not alone hah
Printers = Strippers
Working hard
I Never like videos but after the stripper comment I had no choice 😂😂. Great video thanks!
FInally a decent video on these with actual timestamps + 1 sub
lol the strippers comment is hilarious. I worked as a manager in a strip club and I get you lol.
Hey Ken, awesome video man! Just wanted to see what settings you’re running with TPU on your P1P these days. I imagine after months of running these bad boys you’ve dialed in speed and quality. Thanks man!
Every time I think "this video doesn't interest me" i end up watching the whole thing. Good stuff as always man.
Have had a few...favorite is my dremel 3d45...and bought...thanks to your previous vid(but yet to use) the x1c
Dude, I literally just drive you because that is awesome
👍👍. Stripper names. And reason. That’s awesome
Howdy Ken. So happy to hear your 3D business is growing well and that you've found the best printers for your work. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and perspective on these two printers. Take Care.
Hi Ken thanx, good vid. Curious, do you do your own 3d design work or have someone else do it.. Would like to know costs of having a designer create the print files.
Nope I own my own work. It’s split between myself and my partner we both design and correct one another.
My man giving his printers stripper names
Great video and information! Underrated review, more people should see this!
Thanks! Really digging these printers
Out of curiosity, which filament drier box are you using? It looks good.
Sunlu
Hye @originaldeBO
What brand of TPU are you using?
Sainsmart
Maybe Bambu will come out with a larger printer that you can give a pimp name 😏
Thanks for this! I’ve been under a rock with the P1P and didn’t even know about it and it’s different qualities. I got one of the first X1Cs after they launched and it has been a game changer. Thinking about getting more, but great to know about other options!
Very cleanly edited video too 👌🏼😌
Thanks dude!
@@OriginaldoBo yeah! Keep it up🤗
Ken, love the review.
You stated that you print TPU on the P1P because of the cooling it has with the open sides.
Will TPU print ok on the X1C or can it be a problem because it’s enclosed?
(Any suggestions to make printing TPU on the X1C better.)
Thanks for any info.
Prints on both just have to open the door, and run the Aux fan. I have a bad habit of walking into the open doors is why I hate doing it
@@OriginaldoBo Ken, thanks for the info.
I have one of each and I do not do any commercial printing. I think it should be mentioned that you can use the AMS also on the P1P which is what I have on my X1C and the P1P. I, like you do not do a lot of multi color prints, but I’d like to have both of my printers loaded with the filament that I might want to use. It also has the ability to dry your filament, which is a plus. I come in from using totally bad slingers like the Prusa, which I have now gotten rid of. This thing is awesome.
Already mentioned that if you watched I mentioned that it just requires a mounting solution
@@OriginaldoBo I missed that sorry
As an ex-stripper I approve of this video 😂
😂😂😂
Yay! A Dobo video!
P1S or X1C?
What do primarily print? Do you want to print carbon fiber or Nylon? If yes the X1C is the better choice however either way you go you won’t be dissatisfied
@@OriginaldoBo I'm just starting out. so I'll probably go with P1S. love P1P but I don't have much ventilation in my room so I'd want the filter in P1S.
neither are good for a business these are hobby machines, produce weak parts etc etc..
LOL 😂 you clearly know very little.. but that’s the difference between your bank account and mine.
As someone who has had enders, prusas, and now bambu printers-- the bambu's are objectively better than all of them. Enders aren't even in the question since they're so cheap, but comparing mk3s+/mk4 to the p1p, the p1p blows them out of the water. It's not even close. Yes, it's true you sacrifice strength for print time, but if you don't need strength then who cares. Besides, you can always reduce print speed if strength matters and you will always get better quality than the prusa machines. My p1p prints 2-3x faster than my mk3s+'s did and with a 0.4mm nozzle compared to the 0.6mm nozzle I had on the mk3s+. It's an objectively better printer. The only way prusa might have a leg up is if their printers require much less maintenance over time.
I have both the X1C and the P1P right now and they are both the most phenomenal printers I've worked with.
@@jeebus2118 they are junk we have 4 of them are just collecting dust.
@@OriginaldoBo yes I have the money to buy proper printers for my business, obviously you dont and thats why you bought these. You can tell from your crappy watch you cant afford anything!
Compared to what you had before big improvement but still junk.