Game developers should really hire a consultant like you to make sure everything visual about the games they are putting out are as good as they can be. Every little detail and setting matters to bring the best visual experience to the player! Thanks for keeping us updated with the latest information and doing the battery of tests you always do; I've tweaked my PS5 & XSX to according to your videos and began playing on my 55'' LG CX OLED with the lights in my room very dim or off completely.
I'm glad you've made a video touching on this issue, I thought I was crazy! I'd noticed a difference in HDR playing on my PC with HDR10 compared to playing on my Xbox with Dolby Vision, but wasn't sure if it was just the HDR implementation or the Graphics Settings being different on the Xbox. If I had a way to show a difference I'd make a video on it, thank you very much for this!
Been waiting for your analysis of Halo Infinite DV vs HDR10. Thank you, Vincent! You’re simply the best! I love this channel so much! I will purchase some of those HDMI cables to support your channel for the invaluable info you provide us.
Dang, and I just finished the game with DV throughout without trying HDR. Honestly just haven't changed it back since it updated the console. I knew it looked off and read what Adam said, but I didn't know it was that bad. Might jump back in to check it out even though I am done with the game.
I knew something wasn’t quite right! I sent in a ticket to Halo Support just now detailing this issue and linking to your video Vincent; hopefully it will result in future changes!
Alot of the Dolby gaming is broken and imo isn't something actually needed for gaming. We are playing fast moving games most of the time hdr10 is very consistent when gaming and clearly the way to go for games at the moment without a worry lol
Dolby Atmos is working fantastically and I think Halo Infinite has the best Atmos implementation I've ever heard. Everyone with a home theater should try it.
I don't like Dolby Vision on games. It is not neccesary. Most gamers like to fine tune game settings at their own,. Both standards can give you a good tone mapping by default, but HDR10 gives the user more control for customisation. For example in Halo Infinite I like to be more aggresive with "HDR" and reducing "brightness" a bit, even at the cost of some highlight clipping and shadow detail because then the sunny areas look truly awesome, and also because the snipper glint catches my eye earlier ( a situation where a 1/10th is the difference between live or dead). Also in FH5 is worth to be aggresive with HDR settings because car surfaces , land and weather look much better even if it is at the cost of clipping some boring clouds and losing some shadow detail. Meanwhile for movies I like DV "by default" because I want to experience the creator intention, but for games I really want total control.
@@nattila7713 umm yes I do lol clearly you don't if you believe this is a correct implementation of Dolby vision also hgig and dv are completely different hgig is alot like automatic tone mapping. Dolby vision is dynamic meta data.
I've recently bought the 'LG OLED 55 C2' and noticed that the Dolby Vision in Halo Infinite was pretty dim like this myself (So I've turned Dolby Vision Off) BUT I was also concerned with a Strange Purple / Green Box that appears on the loading screen on boot-up to the main title screen, it appears in the Top-Right Corner of the screen as it shows the pop-up for HDR then disappears once the main title shows. Also, the Contrast Grading around the writing etc. On initial boot of the game, is all blocky and looks pretty nasty (it lasts and runs at the same time as the strange box I just mentioned) and I don't remember it doing that or looking like this on my previous TV either.....I'm guessing it's linked to whatever's going-on with the Strange Box !?!? I've tried changing LOADS of settings to try and get rid of it as The Strange Box was never there on my previous TV and I'm worried that something's conflicting within the settings of the C2 and my Series-X which might be doing some harm !?!? Have you got any ideas what's happening and why it's showing-up on my new Oled TV but wasn't on my previous HDTV ?? Have you any ideas how to fix it at-all ?? Do you think it's doing any harm to either my C2 or my Series-X ?? Many Thanks in Advance for Any Help / Info, Any Help / Info will be Greatly Appreciated !!
Same box shows up for me but a lighter black box area instead of the green/purple. Occurs when going into HDR10 mode and doesn’t happen at all when going into dolby vision mode.
Thank you for this Vincent. I really like these videos from you. I find the HDR sliders in other games like Doom Eternal and Gears 5 to just be confusing. I have no idea how to adjust it, so I leave them as default.
Thanks for this, I just started playing halo infinite in Dolby vision using a Sony A9G. I haven’t tried HDR10, but will give a try now. It’s strange because I didn’t think it looked bad in Dolby Vision, but sometimes you don’t know what you don’t know!
Weird. I thought DV looked better than HDR (both with calibrated presets) on my 2018 P Quantum when I switched back to it. HDR10 looked brighter overall...but washed out by comparison. I've kept it in DV. Another thing to consider. If you are set it and forget it, then maybe using HDR10 is the answer. If I use my SDR calibrated preset mode (Movie, Calibrated, etc) on an HDR or DV picture, it doesn't look right and often it's too dark. If your tv allows, creating custom picture modes based on the HDR input might help quite a bit. I have SDR, HDR, and DV picture modes created on top of the standard options that work wonders when I switch to them on those signals and could be why I don't see the issue with this that others are noticing.
On PC I have to enable tone mapping in Halo Infinite or else the image is super dark. In FH5 I can keep it on HGiG and it looks like it should. Gotta say as a newcomer to HDR with the LG C1, switching between modes constantly is annoying, but it's worth it because it looks so damn good. It's not like computer monitors are any better, in fact, they're even more finicky in many ways.
HDR as a whole is quite bad outside of television. I'm not even sure it's that hard to implement HDR properly in games. Perhaps there's just not enough people that ultimately care about HDR to make companies put in the effort for it.
Thanks so much, ive been playing with dolby vison on my lg c1 and assumed it was working properly... (underwheing properly) changed to hdr 10 with recommended hdr in game setting and ita sooo much better! Cheers.
Dolby Vision just isn't worth enabling for gaming at the moment. Even if it's working correctly, the difference is subtle enough to become inconsequential. Maybe in the future it will become something special.
Thank you for this. I suspected this but a confirmation is always nice. I have yet to prefer a game in DV. Being a C9 owner I’m already prepared to never use DV in favour of a 120hz output with HDR.
DV is honestly broken for a lot of games on Xbox I've had to go back to HDR10 it's just so much brighter and vibrant. Movies still obviously amazing in DV but gaming needs some work
@Ally yes I was excited about the update for the Series X as well as 120hz DV so I went into it with an open mind but in almost every game I noticed it. I went back to HDR after a few straight weeks and it almost felt like I had a new TV again. I won't be going back until there are native DV games or something else changes
This may be related to your television. Dolby Vision was messed up before on my VIZIO M7 but now works correctly. Make sure Game HDR is off on your TV settings
It must depend on the panel as DV looks amazing on my C1 and in a dark room there is no difference just deep blacks with no grey bars visible. Are you using latest firmware updates as the raised blacks was fixed since launch.
For anyone here that doesn't know.. if you go into the HDR Calibration app on the Xbox you can press LT, RT, LB and RB at the same time to bring up your TVs MaximumTML and MaximumFFTML whilst you adjust the aettings. had no clue before today
Thank you for confirming what my eyes were telling me. I played a match on this exact map right after switching to Dolby, and noticed right away that the shadows had almost no contrast. It looks so wrong.
I’m actually using the Zeskit cable you originally reviewed on my series X. The one that came with it just wasn’t long enough to get the job done “ding”
Dam here I was thinking that Dolby vision on halo infinite looked amazing on my sony oled a80j 77inch. Now since Vincent says it's better on hdr10 I must reconsider. This man is a TV expert like no other. Dolby Vision looks good to me for some reason but as soon as I get home I will turn it back to HDR 10 and see what Vincent is talking about. I wish this man could come calibrate my TV so I don't have to worry about any picture settings that I might have wrong. Nevertheless keep up the good work Vincent. You are the reason I bought the Sony A80j. Your review really helped me make my decision.
Yeah i am wondering if it is an issue with newer models. I play Mortal Kombat 11 and have been playing the Halo campaign in DV on my GX and they both look great
It's not a very good look when you are pushing Dolby Vision gaming and your flagship game gets it wrong. When I last checked VRR 120 was broken in this game as well. It seems to bounce between 60hz and 120hz causing insane flicker on the OLED.
Dolby Vision gaming is just flat out broke as a whole atm. This whole HDR/DV settings is just ridiculous. Who is going to measure every game like this? There needs to be an automated process that optimizes these games for HDR/DV.
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It's honestly terrible atm. It's the downside of being an early adopter.
I don't see automation ever happening (start the game and just play without going into settings and the console automatically takes full advantage of what your TV can do) but I hope I'm wrong.
I agree but it's up to the devs to implement that. So that hgig will work with the game automatically. I think with spiderman and rachet and clank hgig works those the only two games I think lol
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Playing AC Origins and the black crush is so bad. I was missing hgig at one point so who knows if my settings are even correct.
I love games in dolby vision on mine I can mess around with the vision custom settings so I can alter the peak brightness myself even better playing in atmos
To be fair HDR10 in Infinite unfortunately is not great either, i notice a lot of white color crashes especially on a light reflection on metal surfaces (which sounds very specific but there is a lot of em in this game)
The only advantage Dolby Vision has over HDR10 is 12bits color when downsampled to 10bits may provide some subtle differences, dynamic metadata is completely pointless for video games, XBox has it to tick a box and tech illiterates want it because hurr durr it is Dolby Vision therefore it must be better!
Did you make this video just for me? Thank you! Lol I was asking about DolbyVision for Halo Infinite in a comment on another of your videos. Subscribed!
My lg g3 looks superior out of the box using game mode using dolby vision compared to hdr.. HDR looks to bright in some spots which make crash some detail.. In dolby vision you can see each shade of brightness smoothly, so any dust, mist, fog, light posts, etc just looks better.. Maybe they have fixed it but it does look better in dolby vision
Just set everything to the values you like best & don't worry about it. No ideal values will make you like an image more over your own preferences anyway.
I have an lg cx. I am gaming on the series x. I actually prefer just using regular hdr because Dolby vision is way too dark. Plus I think right now not that many games actually support DV
The absolute power Vincent holds with his testing is without equal. I would never be able to understand let alone measure something on an actual reference monitor. I will forever refer to Vincent's words as law in the HDR space.
Dolby vision on a Sony OLED in bright Dolby vision has been awsome in gaming on my end. I love it. I noticed halo starts up bland though and in first initial cut screen. But after that and when it hits in game it's looked very good. Albeit u have to use settings in not industry standards form to achieve.
Wow such a great video. Just got a Hisense ULED with HDR and Dolby. I was using a old 1080 LG and I want to know what HDR and Dolby do. You got yourself a new subscriber!
Microsoft should hire Vincent as a consultant for image quality and calibration work. Hate to have the latest console, with all the tech stamps on the box but preforming badly like this. Dolby Vision, actually to be honest all of these proprietary multimedia standards, is a mess right now.
I am also greatful for your Zeskit HDMI 2.1 advice, as I purchased many HDMI 2.1 cables, even optical which did not work correctly. Zeskit sorted my problems. Had to import to South Africa tho.
I’ve also noticed that DV in a lot of games (and even other types of content) on the C1 looks “bad”. It’s all subjective, obviously, but the games just didn’t look right in DV, to me, dim and washed out. I thought I was crazy. I have a 65” LG OLED from 2017 and when I hooked up my series X to that one, the 2017 LG looked better than my new C1 (77”). Neither are calibrated, but I did follow Vincent’s settings for the C1 and tried to match that on the 2017 LG and I still preferred the picture on the 2017, even in DV. I feel it might be something with the way the C1 is handling DV data? I’m no expert, but I’d definitely prefer the HDR picture in the C1 rather than DV.
are you using game optimizer mode? if so, i agree with you. dv looked so bad and washed out. i switched to Vivid and it looks incredibly better, with still zero lag imo
Yes. Using Game Optimizer (RTS), but I went through all of the GO options on the C1 and found that DV just wasn’t what I liked. On my 65” (LG OLED65B7A from 2017) it just looks like a different picture. I also don’t care for the way DV looks on my Apple, so I just uncheck that option on both the Series X and Apple TV and leave HDR enabled. I hope a firmware update will resolve this at some point….?
Hey Vincent! It's been a year since Cyberpunk was released. Any plans on checking if the HDR implementation got any better? Keep up the great work! Also do you have any plans to check out the Windows 11 Auto-HDR feature? Maybe even compare it with compatible games that also have a native HDR implementation. That could make a very interesting video!
@@Viscte it was. Auto hdr is for sdr games that don’t have hdr in the first place get me? I did hear that it was improved though, so I agree some analysis would be cool
@@jayroman3384 I remember people suggesting that with cyber pink since it had broken HDR. never sure if that worked out either. They never do any testing on this channel for pc
Love your work Vincent! Could I request that you do a comparison of the NVIDIA Shield AI upscaling vs the Apple TV 4k 2017/2021 upscaling for 720p, 1080p, and 4k content? I think that would be an amazing video and some really great content to add to your channel! To take it one step further, you could also compare the ShieldTV and Aptv4k upscaling to the native upscaling of the premier LG and Sony processors. Thanks Vincent and keep up the great job you're doing!
Also would like to mention the gamma flickering while in quality mode on the C1. Initially I found that turning off VRR on my C1 fixed it, but wasn't pleased about having to turn it off. But if you turn off 120fps and just do 60 in the Series X visual settings, that also gets rid of the flickering in quality mode without having to turn off VRR
Still happy playing games in HDR10 on my 2016 panda 65DX900 in up to 1200 nits. switching to my OLED feels like watching something on my close to 200 nit KRP500 in the bedroom
@@hdtvtest lol forgot that part was just interested in the HDR part lmao. Was not even thinking about the Dolby it has never worked for me. My bad. I honestly thought their were non- OLEDS.
Hi Vincent great video as always, i have a new xbox series X, whoes came with a hdmi cable, so you recomend me buy a new certified hdmi cable? Thank you for your advices
Thank you for the great info as always, Vincent. Is there any need to run the XSX through HDMI 2.1 if I don't use 4k120Hz modes? Is HDMI 2.1 on next-gen consoles improving e.g., color banding or near-black handling?
Hopefully they fix this soon. Can't believe they touted the first dolby vision game in game and it doesn't work properly on release. But I'd be amiss to say that is the only thing it's missing upon release. It's disappointing.
I switched from HDR to Dolby Vision and had to fix some settings in the TV. After that, DV looks significantly better than HDR in my opinion. Just needs some changes in picture settings.
I had an intuition after have seen your videos and set it in hdr, today i was going to try dolby but now i know i was right to set it in hdr, thanks man , you r Cool 👍
A straight no nonsense explanation with a sprinkle of humor. That's why this is one of the best tech channels on TH-cam.
Game developers should really hire a consultant like you to make sure everything visual about the games they are putting out are as good as they can be. Every little detail and setting matters to bring the best visual experience to the player!
Thanks for keeping us updated with the latest information and doing the battery of tests you always do; I've tweaked my PS5 & XSX to according to your videos and began playing on my 55'' LG CX OLED with the lights in my room very dim or off completely.
Sweet. Been playing in HDR10, but glad to hear the elevated black levels and grey bars in the cutscenese aren't just me
Yeah, I noticed that immediately, even before I started the game.
Yeah… luckily most of the cutscenes are in game and very few are rendered
I notice it when booting up infinite and the little 343 industries animation plays before the press start screen for the game loads.
@@TheInfiniteNine Yep, the intro videos ;-)
It's only the very first cutscene.
Please do a best HDR settings for Forza Horizon 5 next. And as always, thank you for all the incredibly helpful content. You’re the best Vincent!
Incrrase saturation on forza to 110 on lg oled.
…and a comparison between
Dolby Vision and HDR in Forza Horizon 5 would be great.
He already did a video for Xbox x settings.
@@ioannisdenton how do u come up with?
@@oldb3139 a lot more fluid! Thanks.
I'm glad you've made a video touching on this issue, I thought I was crazy! I'd noticed a difference in HDR playing on my PC with HDR10 compared to playing on my Xbox with Dolby Vision, but wasn't sure if it was just the HDR implementation or the Graphics Settings being different on the Xbox. If I had a way to show a difference I'd make a video on it, thank you very much for this!
You are the man, I knew something was off but couldn't figure it out. Turning off Dolby vision made a world of difference.
Been waiting for your analysis of Halo Infinite DV vs HDR10. Thank you, Vincent! You’re simply the best! I love this channel so much! I will purchase some of those HDMI cables to support your channel for the invaluable info you provide us.
Dang I’ve had it set to dolby vision this whole time too. Will be sure to switch it back, thanks
Dang, and I just finished the game with DV throughout without trying HDR. Honestly just haven't changed it back since it updated the console. I knew it looked off and read what Adam said, but I didn't know it was that bad. Might jump back in to check it out even though I am done with the game.
Hopefully they fix it
I knew something wasn’t quite right!
I sent in a ticket to Halo Support just now detailing this issue and linking to your video Vincent; hopefully it will result in future changes!
it's not halo tho DV looks bad with FH5 also it's a bug in DV on Microsofts end
Alot of the Dolby gaming is broken and imo isn't something actually needed for gaming. We are playing fast moving games most of the time hdr10 is very consistent when gaming and clearly the way to go for games at the moment without a worry lol
Dolby Atmos is working fantastically and I think Halo Infinite has the best Atmos implementation I've ever heard. Everyone with a home theater should try it.
@@Will-xk4nm Atmos has a milli second delay on my end anyway…Dolby Vision works great on Cyberpunk for the style it does
I don't like Dolby Vision on games. It is not neccesary. Most gamers like to fine tune game settings at their own,. Both standards can give you a good tone mapping by default, but HDR10 gives the user more control for customisation. For example in Halo Infinite I like to be more aggresive with "HDR" and reducing "brightness" a bit, even at the cost of some highlight clipping and shadow detail because then the sunny areas look truly awesome, and also because the snipper glint catches my eye earlier ( a situation where a 1/10th is the difference between live or dead). Also in FH5 is worth to be aggresive with HDR settings because car surfaces , land and weather look much better even if it is at the cost of clipping some boring clouds and losing some shadow detail. Meanwhile for movies I like DV "by default" because I want to experience the creator intention, but for games I really want total control.
seems you have no idea what hgig and dv means.....
@@nattila7713 umm yes I do lol clearly you don't if you believe this is a correct implementation of Dolby vision also hgig and dv are completely different hgig is alot like automatic tone mapping. Dolby vision is dynamic meta data.
This clickbait title is misleading. It should read the LG C1 has an issue with Dolby Vision in Halo Infinite.
I had to choose between 120hz and DV on my X900H. So glad I’m not missing out on better quality
Are you playing Infinite? If so, what are you HDR settings? I as well have an X900h
That was a smooth transitioning from the horizon forbidden west video got me hooked
I've recently bought the 'LG OLED 55 C2' and noticed that the Dolby Vision in Halo Infinite was pretty dim like this myself (So I've turned Dolby Vision Off) BUT I was also concerned with a Strange Purple / Green Box that appears on the loading screen on boot-up to the main title screen, it appears in the Top-Right Corner of the screen as it shows the pop-up for HDR then disappears once the main title shows.
Also, the Contrast Grading around the writing etc. On initial boot of the game, is all blocky and looks pretty nasty (it lasts and runs at the same time as the strange box I just mentioned) and I don't remember it doing that or looking like this on my previous TV either.....I'm guessing it's linked to whatever's going-on with the Strange Box !?!?
I've tried changing LOADS of settings to try and get rid of it as The Strange Box was never there on my previous TV and I'm worried that something's conflicting within the settings of the C2 and my Series-X which might be doing some harm !?!?
Have you got any ideas what's happening and why it's showing-up on my new Oled TV but wasn't on my previous HDTV ??
Have you any ideas how to fix it at-all ??
Do you think it's doing any harm to either my C2 or my Series-X ??
Many Thanks in Advance for Any Help / Info,
Any Help / Info will be Greatly Appreciated !!
Same box shows up for me but a lighter black box area instead of the green/purple. Occurs when going into HDR10 mode and doesn’t happen at all when going into dolby vision mode.
Thank you for this Vincent. I really like these videos from you. I find the HDR sliders in other games like Doom Eternal and Gears 5 to just be confusing. I have no idea how to adjust it, so I leave them as default.
Same. I have no idea why some devs make those calibration screens like that. Literally pointless.
Dolby Vision for movies and HDR10 for games thats the rule I stick to.
@@BeginsWithTheEnd No difference between HDR 10 and Dolby Vision
@@BeginsWithTheEnd you never See a difference in Games. Movies maybe but ingame WE have hgig
Thanks for this, I just started playing halo infinite in Dolby vision using a Sony A9G. I haven’t tried HDR10, but will give a try now. It’s strange because I didn’t think it looked bad in Dolby Vision, but sometimes you don’t know what you don’t know!
Idk for me it loojs great with dolby vision. It's just not as super bright as some games.
@@stefans4562 I’ve turned off dolby vision gaming and it looks way better in hdr10, much brighter and vibrant.
@@labroomes I'll try it, thanks
@@labroomes does leaving dolby vision on still do anything for gaming even if you turn off dv for gaming?
Weird. I thought DV looked better than HDR (both with calibrated presets) on my 2018 P Quantum when I switched back to it. HDR10 looked brighter overall...but washed out by comparison. I've kept it in DV.
Another thing to consider. If you are set it and forget it, then maybe using HDR10 is the answer. If I use my SDR calibrated preset mode (Movie, Calibrated, etc) on an HDR or DV picture, it doesn't look right and often it's too dark. If your tv allows, creating custom picture modes based on the HDR input might help quite a bit. I have SDR, HDR, and DV picture modes created on top of the standard options that work wonders when I switch to them on those signals and could be why I don't see the issue with this that others are noticing.
On PC I have to enable tone mapping in Halo Infinite or else the image is super dark. In FH5 I can keep it on HGiG and it looks like it should. Gotta say as a newcomer to HDR with the LG C1, switching between modes constantly is annoying, but it's worth it because it looks so damn good. It's not like computer monitors are any better, in fact, they're even more finicky in many ways.
HDR as a whole is quite bad outside of television. I'm not even sure it's that hard to implement HDR properly in games. Perhaps there's just not enough people that ultimately care about HDR to make companies put in the effort for it.
How do you adjust your tone mapping on PC?
Bad VRR flicker if Xbox system is set to 120hz but you play halo in quality mode (60fps)
Thanks so much, ive been playing with dolby vison on my lg c1 and assumed it was working properly... (underwheing properly) changed to hdr 10 with recommended hdr in game setting and ita sooo much better! Cheers.
I've been leaving dv off on my cx setup. I prefer my hdr10 visual settings
Dolby Vision just isn't worth enabling for gaming at the moment.
Even if it's working correctly, the difference is subtle enough to become inconsequential.
Maybe in the future it will become something special.
Thank you for this. I suspected this but a confirmation is always nice. I have yet to prefer a game in DV. Being a C9 owner I’m already prepared to never use DV in favour of a 120hz output with HDR.
It’s no huge issue. All comparisons so far doesn’t show noticeable improvements of DV oder HDR10 in games.
Someone I know has the c9 does the c9 have Dolby vision with only 60hz?
@@CrazyDevoYT correct
@@CrazyDevoYT yes only dolby vision at 60fps on c9
DV is honestly broken for a lot of games on Xbox I've had to go back to HDR10 it's just so much brighter and vibrant. Movies still obviously amazing in DV but gaming needs some work
@Ally yes I was excited about the update for the Series X as well as 120hz DV so I went into it with an open mind but in almost every game I noticed it. I went back to HDR after a few straight weeks and it almost felt like I had a new TV again. I won't be going back until there are native DV games or something else changes
Are you using the latest XBox Alpha build as that is the best way to ensure the best updates .
@@DEVILTAZ35 yes, I'm in Alpha skip ahead so I've kept up with the updates but on my LG CX it's quite noticeable. Different types of games as well
This may be related to your television. Dolby Vision was messed up before on my VIZIO M7 but now works correctly. Make sure Game HDR is off on your TV settings
Thank you for making this video. I was starting to pull my hair out trying to fix this mess.
I've also noticed that most games look better in HDR vs DV on my C1. I've since turned off DV. Nice to see I wasn't the only one who noticed.
It must depend on the panel as DV looks amazing on my C1 and in a dark room there is no difference just deep blacks with no grey bars visible. Are you using latest firmware updates as the raised blacks was fixed since launch.
@@DEVILTAZ35 it would look even better using HDR 10 though, that's what this video is about
For anyone here that doesn't know.. if you go into the HDR Calibration app on the Xbox you can press LT, RT, LB and RB at the same time to bring up your TVs MaximumTML and MaximumFFTML whilst you adjust the aettings. had no clue before today
Is Dolby Vision still broken with Halo? Make sure to give us a heads up when i can switch my dolby vision gaming back on for Halo! Thanks brother!
Thank you for confirming what my eyes were telling me. I played a match on this exact map right after switching to Dolby, and noticed right away that the shadows had almost no contrast. It looks so wrong.
The whole HDR situation is a mess…
Lol right !!
I’m actually using the Zeskit cable you originally reviewed on my series X. The one that came with it just wasn’t long enough to get the job done “ding”
Dam here I was thinking that Dolby vision on halo infinite looked amazing on my sony oled a80j 77inch. Now since Vincent says it's better on hdr10 I must reconsider. This man is a TV expert like no other. Dolby Vision looks good to me for some reason but as soon as I get home I will turn it back to HDR 10 and see what Vincent is talking about. I wish this man could come calibrate my TV so I don't have to worry about any picture settings that I might have wrong. Nevertheless keep up the good work Vincent. You are the reason I bought the Sony A80j. Your review really helped me make my decision.
Funny enough I still prefer the DV look over the (in my personal preference) over saturated HDR10. I use a CX
Yeah i am wondering if it is an issue with newer models. I play Mortal Kombat 11 and have been playing the Halo campaign in DV on my GX and they both look great
It is not "oversaturated"..
he just explained DV is running below standards.
I have the Sony 900F and I have found games playing Dolby Vision are MUCH brighter than HDR 10 on my set. Including Halo.
I love his early explanations 😂
He should have just said I got bigger gamer ballz than you!
It's not a very good look when you are pushing Dolby Vision gaming and your flagship game gets it wrong. When I last checked VRR 120 was broken in this game as well. It seems to bounce between 60hz and 120hz causing insane flicker on the OLED.
Dolby Vision gaming is just flat out broke as a whole atm. This whole HDR/DV settings is just ridiculous. Who is going to measure every game like this? There needs to be an automated process that optimizes these games for HDR/DV.
It's honestly terrible atm. It's the downside of being an early adopter.
I don't see automation ever happening (start the game and just play without going into settings and the console automatically takes full advantage of what your TV can do) but I hope I'm wrong.
I agree but it's up to the devs to implement that. So that hgig will work with the game automatically. I think with spiderman and rachet and clank hgig works those the only two games I think lol
Playing AC Origins and the black crush is so bad. I was missing hgig at one point so who knows if my settings are even correct.
I love games in dolby vision on mine I can mess around with the vision custom settings so I can alter the peak brightness myself even better playing in atmos
To be fair HDR10 in Infinite unfortunately is not great either, i notice a lot of white color crashes especially on a light reflection on metal surfaces (which sounds very specific but there is a lot of em in this game)
The only advantage Dolby Vision has over HDR10 is 12bits color when downsampled to 10bits may provide some subtle differences, dynamic metadata is completely pointless for video games, XBox has it to tick a box and tech illiterates want it because hurr durr it is Dolby Vision therefore it must be better!
Vincent for President!
WOW I turned it off and now every game I play looks better! Destiny 2 looks way better without Dolby Vision. I'm rocking the LG C1...
what picture mode are you using?
@@varunaX The Gaming one.
@@W4rriorOfLight I found it disables too many things that made the picture look good. When I turn it off, DV looks sooo good. And still zero lag imo
Did you make this video just for me? Thank you!
Lol I was asking about DolbyVision for Halo Infinite in a comment on another of your videos.
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I feel like this video was made for me. Thank you Vincent. One Mancunian to another, you're a scholar and a gentleman.
Vincent thanks for all ur work brother i learned so much from u !!!
My lg g3 looks superior out of the box using game mode using dolby vision compared to hdr.. HDR looks to bright in some spots which make crash some detail.. In dolby vision you can see each shade of brightness smoothly, so any dust, mist, fog, light posts, etc just looks better.. Maybe they have fixed it but it does look better in dolby vision
I wish HDR sliders weren't so confusing and different for each game, keep it simple.
Just set everything to the values you like best & don't worry about it. No ideal values will make you like an image more over your own preferences anyway.
I turned off Dolby Vision on Xbox. The colors just seem off. The screen has this weird gold/warm tint to it.
I have an lg cx. I am gaming on the series x. I actually prefer just using regular hdr because Dolby vision is way too dark. Plus I think right now not that many games actually support DV
I did feel the game looked dim in outdoor scenes. Thanks for confirming!
The absolute power Vincent holds with his testing is without equal. I would never be able to understand let alone measure something on an actual reference monitor.
I will forever refer to Vincent's words as law in the HDR space.
I play this on a Series S hooked with an old 600hz Panasonic plasma tv! 😎
Thats okay man, we just gotta make due with what we have, you get to play it that's all that matters 👍
Dolby vision on a Sony OLED in bright Dolby vision has been awsome in gaming on my end. I love it. I noticed halo starts up bland though and in first initial cut screen. But after that and when it hits in game it's looked very good. Albeit u have to use settings in not industry standards form to achieve.
Wow such a great video. Just got a Hisense ULED with HDR and Dolby. I was using a old 1080 LG and I want to know what HDR and Dolby do. You got yourself a new subscriber!
Good video Vincent. I think Dolby Vision gaming in general just isn’t worth anyones time at the moment and it likely won’t be anytime soon.
I dunno, at 30 seconds in pause it the Dolby Vision side looks great and the hdr washed out.
So i went from this video HERE to this video HERE.. i need to stop this chain of events.
Thanks Vincent. I’m going to apply these changes to my LG ZX later today.
Microsoft should hire Vincent as a consultant for image quality and calibration work. Hate to have the latest console, with all the tech stamps on the box but preforming badly like this.
Dolby Vision, actually to be honest all of these proprietary multimedia standards, is a mess right now.
I am also greatful for your Zeskit HDMI 2.1 advice, as I purchased many HDMI 2.1 cables, even optical which did not work correctly. Zeskit sorted my problems. Had to import to South Africa tho.
The jokes on this channel never get old...
I’ve also noticed that DV in a lot of games (and even other types of content) on the C1 looks “bad”. It’s all subjective, obviously, but the games just didn’t look right in DV, to me, dim and washed out. I thought I was crazy. I have a 65” LG OLED from 2017 and when I hooked up my series X to that one, the 2017 LG looked better than my new C1 (77”). Neither are calibrated, but I did follow Vincent’s settings for the C1 and tried to match that on the 2017 LG and I still preferred the picture on the 2017, even in DV. I feel it might be something with the way the C1 is handling DV data? I’m no expert, but I’d definitely prefer the HDR picture in the C1 rather than DV.
are you using game optimizer mode? if so, i agree with you. dv looked so bad and washed out. i switched to Vivid and it looks incredibly better, with still zero lag imo
Yes. Using Game Optimizer (RTS), but I went through all of the GO options on the C1 and found that DV just wasn’t what I liked. On my 65” (LG OLED65B7A from 2017) it just looks like a different picture. I also don’t care for the way DV looks on my Apple, so I just uncheck that option on both the Series X and Apple TV and leave HDR enabled. I hope a firmware update will resolve this at some point….?
@@varunaX Vivid is just going to destroy the organic compound.
You are the best of the best!!! 🤘😎🤘 I love when you compare graphics and games and tv and HDMI cable’s
Hey Vincent! It's been a year since Cyberpunk was released. Any plans on checking if the HDR implementation got any better? Keep up the great work! Also do you have any plans to check out the Windows 11 Auto-HDR feature? Maybe even compare it with compatible games that also have a native HDR implementation. That could make a very interesting video!
Seeing a review on auto HDR for cyberpunk would be great.
@@Viscte why would you use auto hdr for an already hdr game?
@@jayroman3384 I thought the HDR they implemented was broken
@@Viscte it was. Auto hdr is for sdr games that don’t have hdr in the first place get me? I did hear that it was improved though, so I agree some analysis would be cool
@@jayroman3384 I remember people suggesting that with cyber pink since it had broken HDR. never sure if that worked out either. They never do any testing on this channel for pc
Love your work Vincent! Could I request that you do a comparison of the NVIDIA Shield AI upscaling vs the Apple TV 4k 2017/2021 upscaling for 720p, 1080p, and 4k content? I think that would be an amazing video and some really great content to add to your channel! To take it one step further, you could also compare the ShieldTV and Aptv4k upscaling to the native upscaling of the premier LG and Sony processors. Thanks Vincent and keep up the great job you're doing!
Wow! That’s a big difference, great video
Forget Zeskit cables I switched to audioquest cinnamon cable you feel and see the difference faster response time 😜😝
Keep doing what you're doing, Vincent. Amazing work!
My God you are definitely a mind reader. I was hoping you would cover this. You are awesome!
I always kept Dolby vision off on my Series X because I read that no game actually natively supports it. Is Infinite supposed to?
YES!! I’ve litterly been hunting for how to put the hdr settings for halo correctly and couldn’t find anything anywhere
Your puns are legendary :-D Cracks me up every time. Thank you for great content!
Is there any specific advice for the PC version? 343 seems to have rushed this game even though it was delayed
Also would like to mention the gamma flickering while in quality mode on the C1. Initially I found that turning off VRR on my C1 fixed it, but wasn't pleased about having to turn it off. But if you turn off 120fps and just do 60 in the Series X visual settings, that also gets rid of the flickering in quality mode without having to turn off VRR
Mabey you have amd fresync premium enabled too
Very helpful. Has this been patched?
I don't know if it's the camera, but for me the left one looks way better lol
Yeah pause at the start screen at like 0:16...the cliffs on the left have more natural look and the green in the middle looks more "vibrant"
Has this been fixed since the midseason update in feb?
I have a lot of input lag when I enable Dolby Vision on my Series X.
This man said “fleshlight” what a legend 🤣
Microsoft has also removed Dolby Atmos via bitstream from XBox. Hope you do a video to highlight this as well.
Still happy playing games in HDR10 on my 2016 panda 65DX900 in up to 1200 nits. switching to my OLED feels like watching something on my close to 200 nit KRP500 in the bedroom
Why did you not use TVs that actually get that bright as the tv ? OLEDS hardly get bright at all.
Please suggest a non-OLED that does 4K@120Hz Dolby Vision VRR for the purpose of this comparison. We'll wait.
@@hdtvtest lol forgot that part was just interested in the HDR part lmao. Was not even thinking about the Dolby it has never worked for me. My bad. I honestly thought their were non- OLEDS.
@@hdtvtest burn 😂😂
@@hdtvtest can you do a video on the terrible Dolby Atmos delay on the Xbox series X. It’s been a year and still this issue persist.
Hi Vincent great video as always, i have a new xbox series X, whoes came with a hdmi cable, so you recomend me buy a new certified hdmi cable?
Thank you for your advices
Just subscribed. Brilliant, informative content 👍
Thank you for the great info as always, Vincent. Is there any need to run the XSX through HDMI 2.1 if I don't use 4k120Hz modes? Is HDMI 2.1 on next-gen consoles improving e.g., color banding or near-black handling?
Anyway 2.1 cable is included
Another thing. When i put on VRR there is a grey flickering allover the screen. I play on a C1. Anyone else have the problem?
Yeah VRR is broken with infinite
I'd like to see a PC test. I game with DV on Windows 11 but I haven't noticed any dimness.
Hi Vincent. Would you recommend these settings for the LG BX55 too?
Why does DV look worse than HDR if DV is supposed to be better on paper??
Because in this case dv uses 8 bit converted to 12 bit and hdr 10 uses native 10 bit
@@rahb2096 DV on MW2 looks better to me than HDR. Do you know if DV is true 12 bit on MW2?
@@charliek2557 dv also adds input lag so I wouldn't use it
@@rahb2096 I didn’t know that, thank you!
Flashlight sounds eerily like Fleshlight from Vincent..
Yup, should have dinged it.
Dolby Vision seems to have to much black, it cruches any detail and has unrealistic looking shadows that just become extremely black.
Especially in RDR2
Hopefully they fix this soon. Can't believe they touted the first dolby vision game in game and it doesn't work properly on release. But I'd be amiss to say that is the only thing it's missing upon release. It's disappointing.
I also don't enjoy that the Dolby Vision feature, on the A90J, is not gaming specific and jacks up the input lag
I switched from HDR to Dolby Vision and had to fix some settings in the TV. After that, DV looks significantly better than HDR in my opinion. Just needs some changes in picture settings.
Good content. Thumbs up for algorithm 👍
Man I can't tell on my phone. I'll try it on the console. Btw, are those HDMI cables better than stock ones on the PS5/ Series X?
I had an intuition after have seen your videos and set it in hdr, today i was going to try dolby but now i know i was right to set it in hdr, thanks man , you r Cool 👍