To be honest a lot of these blocks need very good preemptive knowledge that he will ult and said timing before he even does ult (life weaver flower etc). I think if his ult deserves any nerf, it needs a bit more of a call out time at least. That or a smaller range, a lot of heros just cant escape his ult path in most cases due to a range of abilities. You can argueother tnak ults are similar but, you can still react during and have time to escape befor, sigmas ult. Reins ult can be more easily blocked and does minor damage. Orisas ult can still be escaped and will dish out less damage if not in the perfect situation. His ult is kind of just, too punishing upfront with little wiggle room.
his problem is not the ult. it's everything else he can do. if anything, his ult is on the weak side and they are gonna buff it by making it fall faster.
Overwatch players acting surprised when a busted hero gets nerfed will always be a classic I suppose. If anything is getting nerfed though it's probably his spike guard because a 75% incoming damage reduction on a meter that also deals damage is kind of an insane combination, especially on a tank that's got as much mobility and crowd control as he does.
Another fun fact that nobody seems to be talking about is hazard SHREDS shields. During spike guard a full block does approx 250dmg. Right? We know this. But it does 250dmg to EACH target. Not each player. Shields are a target. Players are a target. Constructs (turrets, tp, lamp, tree etc) are a target. So if you just block into a rein, you’ll do 250dmg (without armor DR calculated) but if you block into a rein who is blocking, the shield will take 500. The projectiles ARE affected by Bap wall and kitsune rush. We can extrapolate this to break sym ult, and rein shield in a single instance of 2.5sec of blocking. Wrecking balls mines ALL count as targets as well. The only interesting interaction is zarya bubbles are unique in that they make the bubbled hero intangible so hazard cannot target them, only their bubble. Because of this standard anti dive solutions are capable of being handled. Brig shield takes 500dmg over 2.5 sec, torb and turret are both pressured, etc. sorry for the long message but nobody seems to be talking about this
this is true! figured it out when hazard spike guard targeted ramattra and his shield. i think it's pretty situational especially because spike guard's range is not great nor is its damage per tick. against most shield tanks, it feels like hazard would rather use his movement ability to rush past the shield. but i guarantee a good tank player will make use of this (maybe shred a shield for your snipers) 👍 but on the topic of ball ult, hazard farms ult way faster than any other tank from what the play test felt like (i didn't ever check passive ult charge gain though), and downpour also destroys ball mines, which is awesome because trading downpour for minefield is a good trade imo. he also just throws ball around, i don't think he wins the matchup, but ball doesn't get to play in the matchup kitsune rush + spike guard does sound kinda insane though, similar to the passive ram ult does i'd imagine
@@venaxtra_ for sure he’s got the mobility to go through over or around any shields in his way, but if everybody’s clumped up and you have a safe disengage the block puts out a ton of pressure breaking all constructs (say illaris pylon) while also putting heavy pressure on the targets cuddled up. From when I played him my block was consistently making up around 35-40% of my damage output. It’s range is very limited but his jump and block come back faster than most constructs. So I would leap in shoot the problem, block until it was destroyed and jump back out. Then come back in a moment and try for a kill
That last bit 😭 Just yesterday I had a comp lobby on that very same map, rialto, and at the initial battle area around the payloads starting point there was an enemy torb turret next to the stairs just past the little room to the left of the cart (I was on defenders side) and it was shooting at us thru the doorway The entire round that turret stayed there completely ignored. I watched our genji dance all around it trying to kill... butterflies or something. Only to wind up dying to it 4 times in a row. Our other teammates ignored it as well, the turret was mvp as it killed most of my team. We never even got to push the cart. Platinum lobby btw (i hardly played comp at all this season and only started bc of Drives)
im so sorry to hear that, but also this happens ALL THE TIME 🙃 i'm a support player and the amount of times i've had to swap to just break turret so my tank isn't permanently dps passive'd is insane my favourite spin on that situation is when the genji starts flaming everyone else for the turret. like this is totally a situation you can be a solution to -- swap! throw your projectiles at it! be the hero your team needs! you are the only player your can control after all "i think my most common comms to you are 'do you have suzu' and 'can you break turret', but one of those shouldn't be" - tank player i play with
i think it's because the actual projectiles that deal damage aren't the ones we see. they're invisible or something maybe one day marblr will make a workshop to show us what's really happening during downpour🙏
@@venaxtra_ i think you can see the animation of eating the projectiles as dva when hazard starts to shoot out the spikes from his back. however, that doesn’t seem to stop the spikes falling down. i think it’s all just visuals and no real “projectile” thing going on here.
Somethinb interesting with Hazard I discovered while streaming, if you wall beneath you just as a doom is using his ult on you, you'll still take a little but of damage (like 70) but you block the rest of it and the doom is pushed away
that's an interesting interaction 👀 it almost certainly has something to do with the fact that doomfist's actual location is still on the ground during his ult and hazard wall deals knockback. my theory is that it won't always push doomfist away. the interaction you observed will only happen if when doomfist loses invulnerability and the wall also spikes, dealing knockback. if that doesn't happen, i think meteor strike will hit you and the break wall. just a theory tho :9 the wall triggers on its own cycle, it's not based on whether or not a player is near as far as i can tell. marblr explains doom's ult in a short; th-cam.com/users/shorts0tooiD1mqXY (i don't know if you've seen, but using mei wall you can shove doom under the map sometimes and kill him out of ult. maybe hazard could do the same?)
Zarya, Mauga, Orisa, Hog, DVa, Cass, bastion, sombra, Phara, , echo a bit, Ana, Brig, are hard counters for him. Also some others are not direct counters, but can have the match on their side like ball, sigma, doom, Genji, junkrat, Juno, Kiri, Weaver, Lucio, moira... So yeah, this tanks will suffer a bit in the game. In the play test people were bringing lots of those characters I'm mentioning, and it was hard, specially against the tanks. He will suffer so much in this 5v5 format, but maybe he will excel in 6v6
@ I'd love to answer that but I have no idea how dva bomb works, whether it uses los checks to the players camera or relies on seeing the players hitbox, i don't know, it's been so inconsistent with that but i'd say probably not cuz it seems it has a different LOS check to deadeye, which marblr made a full video on
This is not accurate. Hazards ult ignores LOS if you are standing around a corner inside a building you will still get hit by it. As a Hog main I've tested this multiple times and got hit every single time by it. Now granted that may change when he's officially released, but who knows.
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Thanks for telling me it's a rain that comes at an angle, rather than directly above
All these cancels for his ult, and yet, watch blizzard nerf my son to the ground
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To be honest a lot of these blocks need very good preemptive knowledge that he will ult and said timing before he even does ult (life weaver flower etc). I think if his ult deserves any nerf, it needs a bit more of a call out time at least.
That or a smaller range, a lot of heros just cant escape his ult path in most cases due to a range of abilities. You can argueother tnak ults are similar but, you can still react during and have time to escape befor, sigmas ult. Reins ult can be more easily blocked and does minor damage. Orisas ult can still be escaped and will dish out less damage if not in the perfect situation.
His ult is kind of just, too punishing upfront with little wiggle room.
his problem is not the ult. it's everything else he can do.
if anything, his ult is on the weak side and they are gonna buff it by making it fall faster.
Overwatch players acting surprised when a busted hero gets nerfed will always be a classic I suppose.
If anything is getting nerfed though it's probably his spike guard because a 75% incoming damage reduction on a meter that also deals damage is kind of an insane combination, especially on a tank that's got as much mobility and crowd control as he does.
@@josjos-x5s not really... You've got a big window before the spikes fall
good math (also lmao the quotes)
thanks, i'm a bit of a math major myself :)
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Another fun fact that nobody seems to be talking about is hazard SHREDS shields. During spike guard a full block does approx 250dmg. Right? We know this. But it does 250dmg to EACH target. Not each player. Shields are a target. Players are a target. Constructs (turrets, tp, lamp, tree etc) are a target. So if you just block into a rein, you’ll do 250dmg (without armor DR calculated) but if you block into a rein who is blocking, the shield will take 500. The projectiles ARE affected by Bap wall and kitsune rush. We can extrapolate this to break sym ult, and rein shield in a single instance of 2.5sec of blocking. Wrecking balls mines ALL count as targets as well. The only interesting interaction is zarya bubbles are unique in that they make the bubbled hero intangible so hazard cannot target them, only their bubble. Because of this standard anti dive solutions are capable of being handled. Brig shield takes 500dmg over 2.5 sec, torb and turret are both pressured, etc. sorry for the long message but nobody seems to be talking about this
good info, thanks
this is true! figured it out when hazard spike guard targeted ramattra and his shield.
i think it's pretty situational especially because spike guard's range is not great nor is its damage per tick. against most shield tanks, it feels like hazard would rather use his movement ability to rush past the shield. but i guarantee a good tank player will make use of this (maybe shred a shield for your snipers) 👍
but on the topic of ball ult, hazard farms ult way faster than any other tank from what the play test felt like (i didn't ever check passive ult charge gain though), and downpour also destroys ball mines, which is awesome because trading downpour for minefield is a good trade imo. he also just throws ball around, i don't think he wins the matchup, but ball doesn't get to play in the matchup
kitsune rush + spike guard does sound kinda insane though, similar to the passive ram ult does i'd imagine
@@venaxtra_ for sure he’s got the mobility to go through over or around any shields in his way, but if everybody’s clumped up and you have a safe disengage the block puts out a ton of pressure breaking all constructs (say illaris pylon) while also putting heavy pressure on the targets cuddled up. From when I played him my block was consistently making up around 35-40% of my damage output. It’s range is very limited but his jump and block come back faster than most constructs. So I would leap in shoot the problem, block until it was destroyed and jump back out. Then come back in a moment and try for a kill
So...he does what ram was meant to do and stops flying lmao
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That last bit 😭
Just yesterday I had a comp lobby on that very same map, rialto, and at the initial battle area around the payloads starting point there was an enemy torb turret next to the stairs just past the little room to the left of the cart (I was on defenders side) and it was shooting at us thru the doorway
The entire round that turret stayed there completely ignored. I watched our genji dance all around it trying to kill... butterflies or something. Only to wind up dying to it 4 times in a row. Our other teammates ignored it as well, the turret was mvp as it killed most of my team. We never even got to push the cart.
Platinum lobby btw (i hardly played comp at all this season and only started bc of Drives)
im so sorry to hear that, but also this happens ALL THE TIME 🙃
i'm a support player and the amount of times i've had to swap to just break turret so my tank isn't permanently dps passive'd is insane
my favourite spin on that situation is when the genji starts flaming everyone else for the turret. like this is totally a situation you can be a solution to -- swap! throw your projectiles at it! be the hero your team needs! you are the only player your can control after all
"i think my most common comms to you are 'do you have suzu' and 'can you break turret', but one of those shouldn't be" - tank player i play with
Thank you for your comprehensive research
it’s weird cuz they are supposed to be projectiles but i don’t see dva matrix eating animation
i think it's because the actual projectiles that deal damage aren't the ones we see. they're invisible or something
maybe one day marblr will make a workshop to show us what's really happening during downpour🙏
@@venaxtra_ i think you can see the animation of eating the projectiles as dva when hazard starts to shoot out the spikes from his back. however, that doesn’t seem to stop the spikes falling down. i think it’s all just visuals and no real “projectile” thing going on here.
Somethinb interesting with Hazard I discovered while streaming, if you wall beneath you just as a doom is using his ult on you, you'll still take a little but of damage (like 70) but you block the rest of it and the doom is pushed away
that's an interesting interaction 👀
it almost certainly has something to do with the fact that doomfist's actual location is still on the ground during his ult and hazard wall deals knockback. my theory is that it won't always push doomfist away. the interaction you observed will only happen if when doomfist loses invulnerability and the wall also spikes, dealing knockback. if that doesn't happen, i think meteor strike will hit you and the break wall. just a theory tho :9
the wall triggers on its own cycle, it's not based on whether or not a player is near as far as i can tell.
marblr explains doom's ult in a short; th-cam.com/users/shorts0tooiD1mqXY
(i don't know if you've seen, but using mei wall you can shove doom under the map sometimes and kill him out of ult. maybe hazard could do the same?)
I fw this in depth look. I love using niche knowledge in gameplay
this is actually so useful thank you🎉
Such a cool, useful video. Can't wait to see the montages use all this tech 🤩 guarentee reformedravi is gonna use that lifeweaver tech hahahaha
ofc mauga run isn’t stopped by it….that character is def something
"01:97" in the description- that's not a timestamp 😭😭
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@@leah3940 100 seconds in a minute...! right? 😅
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Very informative video 👍
thanks! good luck on hazard release
I needed to confirm about the other ultis but I got your video and it helped me, you saved me time.
New sub:)
Time for more Reformed Ravi clips
Can’t believe you’d make fun of your duo like that :(
harzerd ult reach 20 m up 20 m forward so some maps you can be in the skybox and not get effected for example lijang tower gardens
The ult has a vertical range of 30 meters, there is some maps where you can get this high with valkyrie and pharah
Huh so Zarya is an optimal counter to Hazard. Counterwatch 2
Zarya, Mauga, Orisa, Hog, DVa, Cass, bastion, sombra, Phara, , echo a bit, Ana, Brig, are hard counters for him. Also some others are not direct counters, but can have the match on their side like ball, sigma, doom, Genji, junkrat, Juno, Kiri, Weaver, Lucio, moira...
So yeah, this tanks will suffer a bit in the game. In the play test people were bringing lots of those characters I'm mentioning, and it was hard, specially against the tanks. He will suffer so much in this 5v5 format, but maybe he will excel in 6v6
It really needs to just be from directly above. It would make a lot more sense and feel more consistent.
it can also be blocked by doomfist walk emote
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High quality video.
You also added a 1:97 timestamp to the description lol
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good catch, thank you!
if you put torb turret on a small wall (like the little cubes with grass near the rialto 1st statue) would it block the hazard ult
really nice vid!!
so nice thank you
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Or just use suzu... love ow
another ult to cancel with lifeweavers kit 😉
FACTS haha
feels like a lifeweaver can make or break your game depending on his skill these days
good luck on the grind after hazard release o7
Sick video!
2:08 where the LL ?
nice video
This ult can be cancelled by sym wall is kinda stupid ngl
so can winston bubble it out?
@@tendencynova1131 Yes
Its literally explained why it happens.
If illari pylon cant block dva bomb it probably doesnt break LOS for hazard ult yoo
Wait a sec can torb/sym turret save u from a dva bomb? I dont think so right?
Does block deadeye and bullets in general though, also bob and rein charge
@@Waseemmmm ik about this but im wondering about stuff like d.va bomb
@ I'd love to answer that but I have no idea how dva bomb works, whether it uses los checks to the players camera or relies on seeing the players hitbox, i don't know, it's been so inconsistent with that but i'd say probably not cuz it seems it has a different LOS check to deadeye, which marblr made a full video on
Good to know, by the way is your voice single?
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Can you stop Hazard Ultimate if you hack or EMP after he starts yelling?
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This is not accurate. Hazards ult ignores LOS if you are standing around a corner inside a building you will still get hit by it. As a Hog main I've tested this multiple times and got hit every single time by it. Now granted that may change when he's officially released, but who knows.
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also what happened to your Minecraft videos??
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