@@QckSGaming I left out some context because they detract from the humor. Basically you are right. This match ID was 26493089. My next immediate match was 26496324, which matchmaking also put the same Lash there. If you look up the score, I was 6 kills to 1 death that time. The difference being, Lash nagged on a different player instead, so I was unbothered by his bad orders. (Bebop can't build bomb stacks if constantly forced to go do lanes.) Also, in that game everyone stopped him and told him to STFU. I'll add this to the video description now.
@@tf2heinous857 Hey man, just so you know for next time - people like this? Just mute them. As soon as they say something even vaguely demeaning or disrespectful - instant mute. You will have a much better time, and you will do better without their micromanagement too.
Lash wasn't commanding bebop to help the team, he was commanding bebop to make sure bebop lost since lash hates bebop. It isn't it obvious with him trying to make you push deep into enemy lane with thousands of souls behind?
Everyone in initiate is bad, but someone has to call the shots, he just happens to be bad at it because he's an initiate player and everyone is bad in initiate. In phantom, you better believe someone is calling the shots, but they actually know what they are talking about most of the time and don't sound like an asshole usually.
I played with this guy. He's a bastard. And the Beepbop is crazy. I was getting shredded in lane lost guardian, was losing walker. Ikept using the in game help request and asking in VOIP. Yellow took guardian and walker and finally came to help me. As soon as yellow took damage he started raging at the guy helping me and then told me i should have asked for help. I think he's just drunk all the time.
A true deadlock experience having teammates who thinks this is overwatch and go only pvp and leave you alone to defend base and push 4 lanes all by yourself and blames you for not being able to kill 3 ppl when they jump on you in a lane meanwhile they are struggling to win a 5v2 somewhere else.
Mistakes were made by both sides here. Lash is abysmal though..... He's just saying shit without any good reasons behind it. His stats don't matter when his contribution is self-centered. Once 15-20 mins hits, at some point you have to serve the team, whether it's taking a split push or joining/ starting a fight, denying jungle etc. Your team is stacking middle doing literally nothing very often and this guy is singling you out. Meanwhile, the guys standing behind him wont lift a finger if Lash starts/baits a good fight. I think split-pushing was appropriate here, though you could have avoided deep pushing in exchange for farming (since your mates arent doing it).
Thanks for the analysis. This is genuinely useful for me since I come from FPS games and this is my first MOBA. Funny you mention farming, I left it out of the video but that Lash got angry at me for farming because he says Bebop is a bad character to do it. Also, what's the significance of 15-20 minutes that make it a turning point?
@tf2heinous857 Almost 15 minutes is the maximum time one can be in lane. Purple and Yellow, specifically, can last this long if you stalemate and no one rotates to you. Your lane shouldn't last this long but it happens. Heroes that require more jungle farm will tend to stay away from offensive fights so you're looking at about 20 minutes when everyone should be looking for opportunities together. Bebop doesn't farm well if his bomb can't clear it in one go and it's suboptimal because it scales if you're fighting heroes. What I said before still applies though. If you're in the weird situation where you're solo pushing citadel guardians and your team is lollygagging mid, you should consider farming neutrals. The reason isn't just to farm. It accomplishes two more things. A) You aren't standing in lane creeps which places you in mini-map vision for their whole team to see. Being so close to their base means they can show up in numbers without warning. Vision is king in Mobas. Standing in vision for a long period, or unnecessarily gives the enemy a lot of advantages, as a general principle. If you choose to jungle then the enemy team won't be able to pinpoint your team's numbers if you farm a path closer to middle. B) Farming the creeps in the enemy jungle means the enemy can't farm them for the next 2-5 minutes (I'm not 100% sure what the camp timers are). I wouldn't recommend farming the Red creeps on bebop without help. The best players are looking at the mini map while they are pathing between and fighting neutrals so that they can stop jungling immediately and follow up with potential fights.
you know he's iniate 3, most likely has a job, a wife, some kids, and here you are yapping while you probably 1. have no job 2. live with your mom and 3. are a NEET.
Nah, assists are very important. It means you are participating in team fights. Having 2, unless your team got no kills, or you get every last hit ie a vindicta means you contributed basically nothing in teamfights, which in turn means you contributed barely anything to objectives.
You could do 99% of the damage to someone and your teammate comes and tickles them for 1 damage and it would give them the kill and you the assist. Kills and assists are literally the same thing.
The trash rank players always have something to say, no shame is being at that rank until you take it that serious and are still stuck at that rank. I’m at oracle and most people don’t take it that serious at this rank.
nah the lash was right, bro you did 15k player damage farmed all game and still got more deaths than the ivy that got over 2x your kills and double your player damage and on top of that had more souls than you.
Lash told him to push when like half of enemy team was near base, and he had no allies to help nearby, and he was behind 2k. Lash was not right. If you are dogshit, and insult an even more dogshit player you are not right, correct or even close in any manner. Lash is probably the reason his stats were so behind, he should've ignored him. lash didn't even know what Bebop was doing, he would tell Bebop to push, as he was killing towers and complaining about him not pushing. This guy is just similar to you in the way he offloads blame to feel better about his failures and assure himself and others it isn't his fault.
@@plooperss4947 the problem is he would of been farming on right times if lash didn't tell him to push up during farming time. only time bebop could catch up on souls was late in the game when everyone is fighting and being 5-10k behind in souls makes you weak af in this game so he didn't have much of a choice here
@@lupezo5193 Lash was wrong and retarded, but frankly not really. Bebop can easily be useful behind 5k, and farming to "catchup" when your team is fighting, especially over objectives is throwing the game. kills are valuable, letting your team get wiped out and the enemy get any objectives they want because you are "farming" is a terrible idea. The gap will simply widen unless the comeback mechanic tugs you up, in which case you should have joined the teamfight either way since you'd get more money most likely from kp and objectives/ uncontested pushing.
I'm a phantom player, just because everyone is fighting, doesn't actually mean you have to be as well. Its very situational and split pushing while farming lanes is also important, especially if you are down souls. Again though, its entirely situational and depends on many factors.
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people who try to command an entire team are so funny, they always play the worst too lmfao
So true but to be fair, this Lash had decent stats in end screen (likely because the forced poor Bebop to lane)
@@QckSGaming I left out some context because they detract from the humor. Basically you are right. This match ID was 26493089. My next immediate match was 26496324, which matchmaking also put the same Lash there. If you look up the score, I was 6 kills to 1 death that time. The difference being, Lash nagged on a different player instead, so I was unbothered by his bad orders. (Bebop can't build bomb stacks if constantly forced to go do lanes.) Also, in that game everyone stopped him and told him to STFU. I'll add this to the video description now.
@@tf2heinous857 Hey man, just so you know for next time - people like this? Just mute them. As soon as they say something even vaguely demeaning or disrespectful - instant mute. You will have a much better time, and you will do better without their micromanagement too.
@@Gardienne96 thanks, yeah I find being level headed is important for this genre.
Yeah had a 0/10 mirage yell the entire game.
Lash roleplay is crazy
That was the real Lash
Lore accurate lash
This is geniuenly something you'd see in a videogame dunkey video
I laugh everytime he says bipbop
Averegy bebop and lash interaction
BE-BOP, PUSH THAT SHIT, COME ON MAN
Oh my god, i know that Lash player! He was in my game yesterday and did the same thing over mic!
We ended up winning, but he's full on Lash roleplay.
Lash mains when bebop steals their first name and 2nd kidney
Lash wasn't commanding bebop to help the team, he was commanding bebop to make sure bebop lost since lash hates bebop. It isn't it obvious with him trying to make you push deep into enemy lane with thousands of souls behind?
That classic "stealthy" change of plan the moment you died, lmao. Lashole cant beat the allegstions)))
BEEPBOPP
I had to be one minute in the video to get that the lash player was roleplaying lmaooo
"eyy bip bop"
blame shifting deluxe ^^
Id love to see this animated
at this point, i seriously think somethings wrong with head. no way ill believe he is above 50 IQ. bro had 5 thoughts in total the entire game
Always the worst players thinking they're the commanders.
Everyone in initiate is bad, but someone has to call the shots, he just happens to be bad at it because he's an initiate player and everyone is bad in initiate. In phantom, you better believe someone is calling the shots, but they actually know what they are talking about most of the time and don't sound like an asshole usually.
jackop lash ia an ...
lore accurate lash
im actually dying this is so funny
These people are the biggest reason games get lost, bringing down the morale of the whole team for no reason
thats when you just mute
I played with this guy. He's a bastard. And the Beepbop is crazy.
I was getting shredded in lane lost guardian, was losing walker. Ikept using the in game help request and asking in VOIP. Yellow took guardian and walker and finally came to help me. As soon as yellow took damage he started raging at the guy helping me and then told me i should have asked for help. I think he's just drunk all the time.
i think this is why they took ranked away
bee bope
me being a Dynamo main dealing with team Shiv/Infernus:
Yeah but what would you expect from a bebop player? Thank god that lash was there to drag you over the finish line.
literally looks the exact same as archon
Beeeee bop
What maining lash does to a person
holding ult til next game ig. uses it right as he dies.....so smart
Its initiate... what do you expect? These are the worst players in the entire game.
A true deadlock experience having teammates who thinks this is overwatch and go only pvp and leave you alone to defend base and push 4 lanes all by yourself and blames you for not being able to kill 3 ppl when they jump on you in a lane meanwhile they are struggling to win a 5v2 somewhere else.
FIGHT BACK BRO
Mistakes were made by both sides here. Lash is abysmal though.....
He's just saying shit without any good reasons behind it. His stats don't matter when his contribution is self-centered. Once 15-20 mins hits, at some point you have to serve the team, whether it's taking a split push or joining/ starting a fight, denying jungle etc.
Your team is stacking middle doing literally nothing very often and this guy is singling you out. Meanwhile, the guys standing behind him wont lift a finger if Lash starts/baits a good fight. I think split-pushing was appropriate here, though you could have avoided deep pushing in exchange for farming (since your mates arent doing it).
Thanks for the analysis. This is genuinely useful for me since I come from FPS games and this is my first MOBA. Funny you mention farming, I left it out of the video but that Lash got angry at me for farming because he says Bebop is a bad character to do it. Also, what's the significance of 15-20 minutes that make it a turning point?
@tf2heinous857 Almost 15 minutes is the maximum time one can be in lane. Purple and Yellow, specifically, can last this long if you stalemate and no one rotates to you. Your lane shouldn't last this long but it happens. Heroes that require more jungle farm will tend to stay away from offensive fights so you're looking at about 20 minutes when everyone should be looking for opportunities together.
Bebop doesn't farm well if his bomb can't clear it in one go and it's suboptimal because it scales if you're fighting heroes. What I said before still applies though. If you're in the weird situation where you're solo pushing citadel guardians and your team is lollygagging mid, you should consider farming neutrals. The reason isn't just to farm. It accomplishes two more things.
A) You aren't standing in lane creeps which places you in mini-map vision for their whole team to see. Being so close to their base means they can show up in numbers without warning. Vision is king in Mobas. Standing in vision for a long period, or unnecessarily gives the enemy a lot of advantages, as a general principle. If you choose to jungle then the enemy team won't be able to pinpoint your team's numbers if you farm a path closer to middle.
B) Farming the creeps in the enemy jungle means the enemy can't farm them for the next 2-5 minutes (I'm not 100% sure what the camp timers are). I wouldn't recommend farming the Red creeps on bebop without help. The best players are looking at the mini map while they are pathing between and fighting neutrals so that they can stop jungling immediately and follow up with potential fights.
@@josephreynolds2401 thanks, these are all new to me and useful to know.
you know he's iniate 3, most likely has a job, a wife, some kids, and here you are yapping while you probably 1. have no job 2. live with your mom and 3. are a NEET.
@@heybye2147 He was literally giving him useful information to improve tho?
I dunno, this coulda all been avoided if you pushed yellow smh my head.
Bebop push yellow 😂
Holy moly
bebop
Nah I would’ve thrown to spite him
Bro only 2 assists???
Seriously like the least important metric to criticize someone for
Nah, assists are very important. It means you are participating in team fights. Having 2, unless your team got no kills, or you get every last hit ie a vindicta means you contributed basically nothing in teamfights, which in turn means you contributed barely anything to objectives.
You could do 99% of the damage to someone and your teammate comes and tickles them for 1 damage and it would give them the kill and you the assist. Kills and assists are literally the same thing.
nah that guys lost lmao
The trash rank players always have something to say, no shame is being at that rank until you take it that serious and are still stuck at that rank.
I’m at oracle and most people don’t take it that serious at this rank.
Virgin gamers really do make it hard to enjoy games these days.
bebop stop afk farming
push yellow bro
beep bop
Bebop upload this video
I've never seen anyone in my life care for a teammates assists. that is nuts sooooo find toxic I hope he gets banned
This Bebop SUCKS
idk man just push yellow bro. its not that hard.
lol you don't have to listen to this dude
you had the worst performance in the game by far
wtf is wrong with this guy lmao
bebop
nah the lash was right, bro you did 15k player damage farmed all game and still got more deaths than the ivy that got over 2x your kills and double your player damage and on top of that had more souls than you.
Kinda hard to do anything when your told to push lanes and die to their team
@@thegaminwaldo2931 its because he was pushing in dumb, you push with the team unless its a 1v1
Bet you're initiate, too...
@@The-Real-MrMan-1when lash is yelling at you specifically to push yellow, the team isn't there, the lash very clearly doesn't recognise that
Lash told him to push when like half of enemy team was near base, and he had no allies to help nearby, and he was behind 2k. Lash was not right. If you are dogshit, and insult an even more dogshit player you are not right, correct or even close in any manner. Lash is probably the reason his stats were so behind, he should've ignored him. lash didn't even know what Bebop was doing, he would tell Bebop to push, as he was killing towers and complaining about him not pushing. This guy is just similar to you in the way he offloads blame to feel better about his failures and assure himself and others it isn't his fault.
15k player dmg 3k obj dmg.....he was right
When you try to appease a delusional team by listening to their instructions those the stats your gonna get
The lash is also in initiate, so he clearly wasn't good either.
u where farming when rest was fighting. just saying
He was just following orders
@@plooperss4947 the problem is he would of been farming on right times if lash didn't tell him to push up during farming time. only time bebop could catch up on souls was late in the game when everyone is fighting and being 5-10k behind in souls makes you weak af in this game so he didn't have much of a choice here
@@lupezo5193 Lash was wrong and retarded, but frankly not really. Bebop can easily be useful behind 5k, and farming to "catchup" when your team is fighting, especially over objectives is throwing the game. kills are valuable, letting your team get wiped out and the enemy get any objectives they want because you are "farming" is a terrible idea. The gap will simply widen unless the comeback mechanic tugs you up, in which case you should have joined the teamfight either way since you'd get more money most likely from kp and objectives/ uncontested pushing.
I'm a phantom player, just because everyone is fighting, doesn't actually mean you have to be as well. Its very situational and split pushing while farming lanes is also important, especially if you are down souls. Again though, its entirely situational and depends on many factors.