“So far we haven’t gotten anything on Volume 9” You don’t say. You don’t say. Also I like to imagine, if Ruby finds out Pennys death, she tries to attack Neo, and Jaune is like “I killed her!” I think that would be a powerful scene and really give trust between Jaune and Neo
I agree, that seems like the most logical scenario that could happen. Jaune will scream "I killed her!" Ruby being stunned that Jaune killed her just makes her even more furious and Weiss will step in to defend Jaune from Ruby. And a great divide will happen among the group. All started by Ruby.
Side thought, If if Jaune is defending Neo from Ruby what if he didn't have his shield and still puts himself in harms way even with Aura it would send at statement to both Ruby and Neo To Neo that he cares enough to take a hit for her To Ruby that he wants things resolved peacefully and is willing to put himself in harms way to do that
So like...who else hopes that Weiss finds Crescent Rose first? Lowkey wanna hear her complain about something like weight distribution or "how does she even use this thing?!" 🤣
Would be so funny if she does and drags it while complaining bout its weight. Only to then give Ruby an ear full when they meet up about losing the damn thing
I absolutely agree that how and when Ruby finds out about Penny's death (and when she learns the key details) will be a major plot arc of volume 9, and I'm looking forward to seeing that video. However, I'm not sold on the whole "Ruby as the aggressor" thing. First off, we've already seen how fixated Neo is on her quest for vengeance from the brief clip of them falling. Second, we've already seen that type of moment play out for Ruby, when the group of Jaune, Yang, and co. came back with Emerald. Emerald had pretty much the same type of role in Pyrrha's death and Penny's (first) death that Neo had in Penny's second death, but we've never seen Ruby lose it and charge after her when she's encountered Emerald since. She was surprised to see Emerald with the group in volume 8, and instinctively went for her weapon, but quickly stood down once Jaune explained the situation. In this case, (as you said) Ruby knows for a fact that Neo was not the one who killed Penny, and also knows that Neo was betrayed by Cinder. So that opens up a potential path for some sympathy and the sense of a common enemy. Ruby has consistently shown a desire to try and reason with her enemies rather than thoughtlessly attack them, and having her just attack someone in a rage would be completely out of character for her.
Yeah maybe. But she has also gone trough mental torment troughout the series. Seeing penny dead again could absolutely make her snap and lose her cool if she then encounters Neo shortly after Everyone has a limit. And if a limit is broken. You never know how fucked you are
I like that idea of Ruby being the more upset one after seeing Penny.. then she might not even put up a fight, Neo charges toward her then Jaune intervenes giving the speech how they've now all lost someone they deeply care about and who is truly to blame???? Cinder. Great theory vid as always Phoenix 👌🏻 definitely pumped for a new volume this year
It'll be really interesting if Ruby and Jaune do end up fighting each other given their different fighting styles, Jaune being the low mobility tank and Ruby being the super fast skirmisher. Depending on how angry Ruby is I could see her completely overwhelming him with attacks from all sides, especially since he would be focused so much on defense, and possibly forcing him to use his semblance on himself like he did against Cardin in Volume 1. Thinking of a fight between those, I also can't help but think of the song "No Matter What" from the Yugioh dub when Yugi fought Joey, haha.
If ruby finds out penny is dead again i kinda think she's gonna snap. After everything that has happened since Volume 3. Pretty sure she is gonna go in a state of rage that just screams murder
@@ketanmay8469 I'm done with CRWBY. For good. Screw 'em. I watched vilumes 4 and 5 and were completely disappointed by them. I could go into a full explanation/rant with highlights ans writing issues around 4 and 5, but I won't. I'm wasting my breath. Volume 6 blew me out of the water and I was happy with it. It's still my favorite volume post volume 3, except for the Adam storyline and Ruby's final battle against that kaiju looking grimm. Those fights were lame and total letdowns. Just....no. Volumes 7 and 8....ugh.
@@cherrydragon3120 and I'm hoping neo gets off the island alive, hopefully now sided with the heroes. Realistically, team rwby doesn't stand a chance against neo, so the only way they survive is to convince her to not kill them. But rt is gonna rt, so we have no idea
I think Neo's more of the aggressor towards Ruby, because of her drive to vengeance for Torchwick's death. I also imagine that Ruby will be furious with Jeanne for Penny's death, until he explains that she asked him to kill her.
As much i love ruby. The series is foing the way that ruby is gonna snap at some point. And i hope its gonna be at Volume 9. After everything that happened. Its about time Ruby snaps mentaly and goes berserk on some fools
This is the time ruby needs to learn to fight with out her weapon. Osben pointed that out in an episode where he told ruby without her weapon she not good at had to hand combat. And also for neo. This will be very interesting fight. Now we can see if neo can fight with out her weapon. She whoop yang azz on that train fight.
I’d think it would be cool if we have Ruby try to track down Neo throughout the volume. That would be awesome. I kinda picture a Avengers: Civil War scene where Cap walks away from Iron Man with Bucky. But with Jaune being Cap and Neo being Bucky with Tony being Ruby. We get Jaune and Neo leaving on the finale as partners. It wouldn’t be to far off a classic RT move.
Ima be real. Yang would be on ruby side if that was the case then u got blake who didnt like how torchwick used the faunes. So team ruby. And weiss would be with ruby in all honesty
@@allen2reckless676 you could have Weiss split off and help Neo and Jaune. I feel like she would be the most sympathetic or understanding. That way it would even out. I just don’t think that Jaune and Neo could beat all of Team RWBY alone. Have Weiss stay though to throw more drama into the works on another season.
@@AaronS4 probably on Rubys or it could be more of everyone trying to stop Ruby from doing something she would regret. This is under the assumption of my head canon that Jaune would try to help Bumblebee sail by relating his potential relationship with Pyrrha and helping Yang and Blake make a move before it’s too late. That’s the only way I could see Yang or maybe Blake alllying with Neo even slightly is through Jaune. Though I could see Blake actually sympathizing with Neo in some ways not enough to make her trust her but at least pity her. Weiss I feel could either be on the Jaune Neo side or trying to just stop Ruby. I don’t think anyone on Team RWBY except for Ruby would go after Neo to try to kill her. This is all assuming Ruby would but I mean I could happen. So
I did see where someone predicted that we could get a RWBY Vol 9 trailer/information on April 1st because that is the anniversary of when Rooster Teeth was founded and they announced stuff then before with the show premiering at RTX.
I was beginning to wonder when you were going to mention Ruby finding out about Penny. Bc at this point Im pretty sure the only other person in "Wonderland" who even saw it happen was Weiss, and she was locked in battle with Cinder at the time and only saw Jaune stab Penny. She didn't hear their conversation or have any clue as to what was going on. By that point, the other members of RWBY had already fallen and were presumed dead. So now Jaune has to A) face what he did and come to terms with it but also B) tell his friends what happened. Its a double edged sword that Weiss can corroborate his killing Penny, bc again she didn't hear that moment that Penny asked Jaune to kill her. Ughhh this is gonna be an emotionally charged season and Im not ready for it
Glad to see you back! 😁 I've missed your videos and haven't had any good RWBY channels to watch besides yours. I still agree with mental and physical health. Some people just need and break and I support that. It's definitely great to see you, but hope you're taking the time to treat yourself as well 😊
Dark Reflections, Alternate Versions, Alternative Worlds, A Potential Afterlife, Possibly drawing on inspiration such as Wonderland, and Yggdrasil? All of it is possible. ABSOLUTE. HYPE. With plenty of raw, intense character reactions. This is gonna be SO GOOD.
I'm reminded of their entrance exam back in volume 1 where they were "dropped" into the emerald forest and the first person they came into eye-contact with would become their partner. I think it might be similar here but with Ruby and Neo having to partner up/put up with each other in order to survive the dangers of the wonderland jungle, at least till they meet up with the others. Jaune likely will help resolve Neo's grudge against Ruby and the rest of them but I think he'll partner up with Weiss for a time first, he was Weiss's second option/choice for a partner back during the entrance exam.
I hadn't even considered Ruby being the aggressor yet... But that makes a lot of sense, especially if Neo does come across Jaune first and he talks to her. If Neo and Ruby meet without Jaune already meeting Neo, Neo will be the one to attack first, I think still.
@@cherrydragon3120 Well, I think the situation with Adam was different. That was a kill or be killed fight. If Blake and Yang didn't kill Adam, he was going to kill them. That would be really scary to see Ruby snap but it is possible.
When you said "One way I would love to see considering both Hush and Crescent Rose in this other place..." I immediately thought they will find each other weapons and fight...two second after you literally read my mind. XD
It’s possible…but I think it’s going to be both of them being the aggressor. Neo wants to kill Ruby for what happened to Roman, and upon learning of Penny’s death, Ruby is most likely going to want to kill Ruby. Which might lead to Jaune getting in the middle and try to be the mediator and possibly take a hit for Neo, which could open both their eyes in the process of their common enemy Cinder, or like other comments have mentioned, Neo and Jaune will partner up and/or it’ll be like a Civil war situation where they are divided. Either way, I am very eager to see how this unfolds
Everyone has a limit and ruby been trough the wringer already since volume 3. Losing friends because of her enemies. Its only a mayter of time before she snaps into a rage
I think that Ruby would be saddened and furious about what happened to Yang and would want to attack Neo to the point where she would come close to wanting to kill her.
@@ketanmay8469 this is a just a theory but I feel ruby will partly be responsible for making an enemy but there has to be another factor to drive theme a part from good friends to mortal enemies and I think it might be that Salam is Jaune descended.
I'm really excited to see how they'll encounters, I like your ideas ! I also think Penny's death will plays a lot in Ruby's behavior, knowing that she's already overwhelmed by everything that happened. She's likely going to be mad and react back. We kinda already saw her react with Emerald when she saw her with Oscar, she was ready to fight but she was stopped. So with the current situation and considering Neo literaly choked her during the fall, she wouldn't hesitate.
And if she sees penny as well? Boom mental breakdown. If she then encounters neo. Its gonna be a fight though... Neo vs Ruby will be a highlight for sure and i'm also sure only 1 will walk away from that fight
Shot in the dark, What if blake and neo found each other first? or ruby and blake find each other, then find neo and jaune, and it goes down into a 2v2, i doubt blake is just gonna let go of the fact neo attacked yang, to the point where she thought yang was dead.
We could even see a repeat of the emerald forest, would be cool. Ruby finds weiss, blake finds yang, and jaune finds neo in place of pyrrah... or not, remember we dont know where exactly this is, this COULD be the land of the dead.
This theory sounds really good, and would love to see it happen, but as well as that, I would love it if this world makes it so the characters that fell into it can communicate with the departed they were closest with, or have a connection to. Neo with Roman, Jaune with Pyrrha, Blake with Adam, Weiss with her father, Ruby with Penny, and Yang with Summer Rose. I would love it if that can be added to this theory as it would allow us to once again see these departed characters, perhaps in a new light with Adam and Weiss' dad. Really all for Jaune helping Neo move through her grief, perhaps he can even lay on that, in a way, she was involved in the plan that killed Pyrrha, but he does not take his revenge on her because it would not bring that loved one back.
Vol 9 will probably take up the emotional tolls the six characters has while they're stuck in the other realm. But I do like the theory of a conflict dynamic between Ruby, Neo, and Juane. With Ruby and Neo fighting having their blood feud and Juane stepping in as the mediator, I like to see how that turns out. Especially when Ruby gets angry due to the losses of the relics and Penny's death and she took it out on Neo because of her partial involvement with Cinder
I plan to cover it for sure! Depending on what the anime covers (whether its a unique story or a remake of the beginning of the series) will dictate whether I do weekly reviews of it or occasional analysis videos
Sounds really interesting! I'm hoping we find out what the story is going to be like in the livestream later today. Whether its an alternate story (which seems likely) or a remake of the early volumes
Maybe Penny dying is a way for the show to stop the Neo vs Ruby plot without one of them dying. Maybe Ruby's reaction to Penny's death will be enough of a revenge for Neo, because now they've both lost someone special.
well we both saw juane and weiss fall off together so we'll prob see ruby trying to survive with neo hunting her down since in the promo neo and her dematerialized together... but im hoping since rooster teeth delayed it prob be seeing more fights hopefully.
Yo Phoenix, what are those books on your shelf? Asking because I need stuff to read. Any recommendations are welcome. (Edit: Have already read roman holiday)
Those are the No Game No Life light novels. They are an excellent series as long as you can overlook the somewhat excessive fanservice of some of the artwork
Maiden powers are given to whoever is in the maidens last thought. If no one is in that thought, the powers vanish and go to someone random. Pretty sure a dying maiden with a child would have said child in mind before death
Also why does one have to be the aggressor? Couldn’t they both run head long into each other after both seeing one another? Maybe they both continue the fight as if it never stopped.
I wanted to say this alot earlier but I was busy with other life things. If Neo found Crescent rose (can turn it into the sniper function.)First she would just fain losing her voice (cause mute) if she ever got in contact with any of the others on the island. I doubt it but it would be cool. I do think They can use dust and use Semblances. As they could use them in the vault space it wouldn't be any different where the Portal PathWays Was. I very much would like Neo keeping Romans memory. The Hat. I think she would eventually recieve her hush. Maybe thats what she finds first. Jaune is the stick in the cog of Neos Revenge. Jaune beliefs are that no one has to die. He has had his own team mate die May pyrrah rest in peace. (or attempt to in Rens case. Nora causing over electrical shock to leave scars aswell.) for a losing battle. Do I think ruby will get mad at neo yes. Do I think she will blame her? No. Ruby cared for Penny. And it's going to be a heartbreaking moment of jaune having to tell Ruby that. I doubt we will ever see the body.
This might be to dark for the show, but everyone gangs up on Cinder and Jaune deals the final blow by chopping off her head using the Sword of Destruction. Maybe they way they could do this is by showing Cinders shadow as it happens. On the other hand, I think Ozpin should deal the final hit to Salem, seeing as Salem and Ozpin kinda started the whole show and plot in the first place. Then they find a way to either heal or convince Salem that she needs to understand the meaning of life and death.
Honestly, looking at past events, I think Neo will get the Adam treatment. She'll be too far gone in her rage and hatred, thus leaving the heroes no choice but to kill or be killed. In fact it'd be kind of nice seeing Ruby's dark side for once by her mocking Neo with Roman's last words and laughing about how he died right when he yelled "Survive!" Dark Ruby is something I've always wanted to see, and her killing Neo would be a weirdly fitting end to Neo and Roman's legacy; they died, but successfully corrupted Ruby. Plus It'd be kind of cool if Ruby took Torchwick's hat as a trophy. I mean come on, that hat would actually kind of suit her.
I doubt that will happen. But i agree on 1 thing. Seeing penny will probably cause ruby to snap mentaly. And neo being the only villain we know off sofar in V9... i do also think she is going to get the Adam treatment with Ruby killing her out of pure anger after everything that happened. Cause as far Ruby knows. Everyone is as good as dead. Unles she figures they sre not cuz she is not but whatever. Seeing neo and Penny will cause some conflict. And i really think Ruby is going to get her first human kill here. I don't wanna see neo dying :( but i like ruby more soooo choice made
Curious thing about those 3 characters They lost a very close person to each one of them as well that person consider them close too which have red/ginger hair Ruby lose Penny, Jaune lose Phyrra and Neo lose Roman Those 3 on the same day and the same event
Man, it's been a long time since your last video. Why so long? I think that maybe it will be Ruby that attacks Neo, regardless of whether or not she finds Pennys body. Ruby will be too full of anger to think clearly. Be sure to do a video of RWBY: Ice Queendom too
I'm probably wrong but wouldn't it be mind-blowin IF a grim hasn't killed you first, the act of being swallowed takes you to another dimension ?😳 What happens when grim get "destroyed"? Where do they go? Maybe Roman got sent to the this new dimension everyone seems to be ending up on.
I think that Team RWBY could hate Jaune for killing Penny and leave him alone (without hearing him out), and after that he could find Neo, both of them are alone and decide to stick together
I think This entire thing is set up for Ruby to go trough a mental Rage. Volume 3 with Pyrrah and Penny Later with Yang. Qrow being poisoned. Finding out her mom was killed by Salem and probably turned in a grimm And now finding out Penny is dead AGAIN. I am very sure this is to torment Ruby. The entire series has done nothing but putting Ruby trough a wringer of mental torment. And this is probably going to be the Volume where Ruby is going to snap into a murderous rage and perhaps just as blake and yang with Adam.... gets her first Human Kill. Wich is probably but i hope not, gonna be Neo.
I don't see the scenario where Neo and Ruby use each other's weapons playing out because, I believe it's been confirmed that Neo, while undoubtedly one of the highest tier fighters in the show, is very weak when it comes to brute strength so she won't be able to wield Crescent Rose anywhere near as efficiently as Ruby or just about anyone else can...unless Crescent Rose is made out of some really light material and I missed that. All the other scenarios sound pretty solid. Especially the theory where Ruby finds Penny and come to the conclusion that Jaune killed her. That was pretty well thought out. Yo, can Rooster Teeth hire this guy?
Neopolitan is furious with Ruby because Neopolitan still thinks that she killed Roman and now she blames her for Cinder's betrayal in the sense she wants to see Ruby dead
I can't see Ruby even caring about Penny. I'm mostly speaking out of being jaded but I still don't forgive the team for making Penny's return into such a joke. There was no emotion when they met up again and just shrugged off as "pretty wholesome, sounds like Penny" completely spitting in the face of the emotion shown in volume 3 when she died Honestly I still want Neo to finish her off
Am I the only one who wants to see neo put in her place I'm not saying kill her but she lead to many civ deaths she's tried to kill team RWBY and wants nothing more than Ruby's death not lying if I ran across her I'd have it's them or me mentality
“So far we haven’t gotten anything on Volume 9”
You don’t say. You don’t say.
Also I like to imagine, if Ruby finds out Pennys death, she tries to attack Neo, and Jaune is like “I killed her!” I think that would be a powerful scene and really give trust between Jaune and Neo
I agree, that seems like the most logical scenario that could happen.
Jaune will scream "I killed her!"
Ruby being stunned that Jaune killed her just makes her even more furious and Weiss will step in to defend Jaune from Ruby. And a great divide will happen among the group. All started by Ruby.
Neo so much potential, both in character and power and impact. She has grown into one of my favorite characters above most of the main cast even.
Side thought, If if Jaune is defending Neo from Ruby
what if he didn't have his shield
and still puts himself in harms way
even with Aura it would send at statement to both Ruby and Neo
To Neo that he cares enough to take a hit for her
To Ruby that he wants things resolved peacefully and is willing to put himself in harms way to do that
So like...who else hopes that Weiss finds Crescent Rose first? Lowkey wanna hear her complain about something like weight distribution or "how does she even use this thing?!" 🤣
Would be so funny if she does and drags it while complaining bout its weight. Only to then give Ruby an ear full when they meet up about losing the damn thing
I absolutely agree that how and when Ruby finds out about Penny's death (and when she learns the key details) will be a major plot arc of volume 9, and I'm looking forward to seeing that video. However, I'm not sold on the whole "Ruby as the aggressor" thing. First off, we've already seen how fixated Neo is on her quest for vengeance from the brief clip of them falling. Second, we've already seen that type of moment play out for Ruby, when the group of Jaune, Yang, and co. came back with Emerald. Emerald had pretty much the same type of role in Pyrrha's death and Penny's (first) death that Neo had in Penny's second death, but we've never seen Ruby lose it and charge after her when she's encountered Emerald since. She was surprised to see Emerald with the group in volume 8, and instinctively went for her weapon, but quickly stood down once Jaune explained the situation. In this case, (as you said) Ruby knows for a fact that Neo was not the one who killed Penny, and also knows that Neo was betrayed by Cinder. So that opens up a potential path for some sympathy and the sense of a common enemy. Ruby has consistently shown a desire to try and reason with her enemies rather than thoughtlessly attack them, and having her just attack someone in a rage would be completely out of character for her.
Yeah maybe. But she has also gone trough mental torment troughout the series.
Seeing penny dead again could absolutely make her snap and lose her cool if she then encounters Neo shortly after
Everyone has a limit. And if a limit is broken. You never know how fucked you are
I like that idea of Ruby being the more upset one after seeing Penny.. then she might not even put up a fight, Neo charges toward her then Jaune intervenes giving the speech how they've now all lost someone they deeply care about and who is truly to blame????
Cinder.
Great theory vid as always Phoenix 👌🏻 definitely pumped for a new volume this year
It'll be really interesting if Ruby and Jaune do end up fighting each other given their different fighting styles, Jaune being the low mobility tank and Ruby being the super fast skirmisher. Depending on how angry Ruby is I could see her completely overwhelming him with attacks from all sides, especially since he would be focused so much on defense, and possibly forcing him to use his semblance on himself like he did against Cardin in Volume 1.
Thinking of a fight between those, I also can't help but think of the song "No Matter What" from the Yugioh dub when Yugi fought Joey, haha.
I doubt that ruby would attack Jaune like that.
It'll be interesting to see Ruby being the aggressor and not forgiving or nice for once.
If ruby finds out penny is dead again i kinda think she's gonna snap. After everything that has happened since Volume 3.
Pretty sure she is gonna go in a state of rage that just screams murder
@@cherrydragon3120 Same. But, how will CRWBY make that shit a reality. They're writing has been shit lately. Volumes 4, 5, 7 and 8 are fucking hated.
@@skyblazeXIII Well not completely but yeah I do wonder how they're going to do that
@@ketanmay8469 I'm done with CRWBY. For good. Screw 'em. I watched vilumes 4 and 5 and were completely disappointed by them.
I could go into a full explanation/rant with highlights ans writing issues around 4 and 5, but I won't. I'm wasting my breath.
Volume 6 blew me out of the water and I was happy with it. It's still my favorite volume post volume 3, except for the Adam storyline and Ruby's final battle against that kaiju looking grimm.
Those fights were lame and total letdowns. Just....no.
Volumes 7 and 8....ugh.
@@skyblazeXIII okay you don’t have to be that harsh with them jerk. Just be grateful that there still trying
Another possibility is Ruby coming across Jaune's blood covered sword. Or at least. Half of it and conclusion that could lead to.
Giving you a like for giving neo main character status
I mean... she kinda would be this volume. Team rwby (main characters) jaune and Neo. Basicly RWBY's top 6 characters XD
@@cherrydragon3120 and I'm hoping neo gets off the island alive, hopefully now sided with the heroes. Realistically, team rwby doesn't stand a chance against neo, so the only way they survive is to convince her to not kill them. But rt is gonna rt, so we have no idea
This fight is gonna be... something
I think Neo's more of the aggressor towards Ruby, because of her drive to vengeance for Torchwick's death. I also imagine that Ruby will be furious with Jeanne for Penny's death, until he explains that she asked him to kill her.
Oh I really hope the “Penny dead-body thing” is the route they take. I’d love to see Ruby lose it
As much i love ruby. The series is foing the way that ruby is gonna snap at some point. And i hope its gonna be at Volume 9. After everything that happened. Its about time Ruby snaps mentaly and goes berserk on some fools
This is the time ruby needs to learn to fight with out her weapon. Osben pointed that out in an episode where he told ruby without her weapon she not good at had to hand combat. And also for neo. This will be very interesting fight. Now we can see if neo can fight with out her weapon. She whoop yang azz on that train fight.
I’d think it would be cool if we have Ruby try to track down Neo throughout the volume. That would be awesome. I kinda picture a Avengers: Civil War scene where Cap walks away from Iron Man with Bucky. But with Jaune being Cap and Neo being Bucky with Tony being Ruby. We get Jaune and Neo leaving on the finale as partners. It wouldn’t be to far off a classic RT move.
So who side is wiess black and yang are?
Ima be real. Yang would be on ruby side if that was the case then u got blake who didnt like how torchwick used the faunes. So team ruby. And weiss would be with ruby in all honesty
@@allen2reckless676 you could have Weiss split off and help Neo and Jaune. I feel like she would be the most sympathetic or understanding. That way it would even out. I just don’t think that Jaune and Neo could beat all of Team RWBY alone. Have Weiss stay though to throw more drama into the works on another season.
@@cennerdobber8196 i was thinking the same thing wiess would know why Jaune kill penny and probably help out Jaune.
@@AaronS4 probably on Rubys or it could be more of everyone trying to stop Ruby from doing something she would regret. This is under the assumption of my head canon that Jaune would try to help Bumblebee sail by relating his potential relationship with Pyrrha and helping Yang and Blake make a move before it’s too late. That’s the only way I could see Yang or maybe Blake alllying with Neo even slightly is through Jaune. Though I could see Blake actually sympathizing with Neo in some ways not enough to make her trust her but at least pity her. Weiss I feel could either be on the Jaune Neo side or trying to just stop Ruby. I don’t think anyone on Team RWBY except for Ruby would go after Neo to try to kill her. This is all assuming Ruby would but I mean I could happen. So
I did see where someone predicted that we could get a RWBY Vol 9 trailer/information on April 1st because that is the anniversary of when Rooster Teeth was founded and they announced stuff then before with the show premiering at RTX.
That would be awesome to get Volume 9 news sooner rather than later. I hope that prediction is correct!
It could also be a joke
I was beginning to wonder when you were going to mention Ruby finding out about Penny. Bc at this point Im pretty sure the only other person in "Wonderland" who even saw it happen was Weiss, and she was locked in battle with Cinder at the time and only saw Jaune stab Penny. She didn't hear their conversation or have any clue as to what was going on. By that point, the other members of RWBY had already fallen and were presumed dead.
So now Jaune has to A) face what he did and come to terms with it but also B) tell his friends what happened. Its a double edged sword that Weiss can corroborate his killing Penny, bc again she didn't hear that moment that Penny asked Jaune to kill her. Ughhh this is gonna be an emotionally charged season and Im not ready for it
This fight might cost Ruby an eye if Neo is going for the kill
You ever think that RT staff where waiting for fan theories to come out so they could choose the best and use that as volume 9 plot.
I cannot disclose that. Fan theories are often interesting. Pretty sure they do have a look from time to time to get inspired
I keep picturing Jaune finding Penny first, then Ruby finds Jaune digging pennys grave. if neo was there as well it would be one hell of a scene.
I feel like if Jaune and Neo did interact it would be first after Neo takes Jaune hostage.
Glad to see you back! 😁 I've missed your videos and haven't had any good RWBY channels to watch besides yours. I still agree with mental and physical health. Some people just need and break and I support that. It's definitely great to see you, but hope you're taking the time to treat yourself as well 😊
Well,I hope that we'll see Ruby seeing Penny's Dead Body.
Also I really want to see Dark Reflections of Team RWBY.
Dark Reflections, Alternate Versions, Alternative Worlds, A Potential Afterlife, Possibly drawing on inspiration such as Wonderland, and Yggdrasil? All of it is possible. ABSOLUTE. HYPE. With plenty of raw, intense character reactions. This is gonna be SO GOOD.
@@sheepinatree Yep.
Yeah and RT pulling a Tangled BS with Ruby shedding a tear 😢 on Penny's corpse and it magically brings her to Life permanently which I wanna see.
@@jonathonsirlord8251 not gonna happen
I'm reminded of their entrance exam back in volume 1 where they were "dropped" into the emerald forest and the first person they came into eye-contact with would become their partner. I think it might be similar here but with Ruby and Neo having to partner up/put up with each other in order to survive the dangers of the wonderland jungle, at least till they meet up with the others. Jaune likely will help resolve Neo's grudge against Ruby and the rest of them but I think he'll partner up with Weiss for a time first, he was Weiss's second option/choice for a partner back during the entrance exam.
I hadn't even considered Ruby being the aggressor yet... But that makes a lot of sense, especially if Neo does come across Jaune first and he talks to her. If Neo and Ruby meet without Jaune already meeting Neo, Neo will be the one to attack first, I think still.
I think Ruby is gonna snap this volume.
Probably even Kill someone.
Like yang and Blake Killed Adam.
It will be her first Human Kill
@@cherrydragon3120
Well, I think the situation with Adam was different. That was a kill or be killed fight. If Blake and Yang didn't kill Adam, he was going to kill them.
That would be really scary to see Ruby snap but it is possible.
When you said "One way I would love to see considering both Hush and Crescent Rose in this other place..." I immediately thought they will find each other weapons and fight...two second after you literally read my mind. XD
This video is amazing as always Phoenix. If anything this is making me more excited for V9!!
The moment you mentioned Ruby and Neo fighting with each others' weapons, I was sold. I want it so much.
Don't think it will happen that way. But i'm sure a Neo vs Ruby will come. And its gonna be damn good
I’m kinda liking the idea of Ruby having a f*ck everybody episode in Volume 9
It’s possible…but I think it’s going to be both of them being the aggressor. Neo wants to kill Ruby for what happened to Roman, and upon learning of Penny’s death, Ruby is most likely going to want to kill Ruby. Which might lead to Jaune getting in the middle and try to be the mediator and possibly take a hit for Neo, which could open both their eyes in the process of their common enemy Cinder, or like other comments have mentioned, Neo and Jaune will partner up and/or it’ll be like a Civil war situation where they are divided. Either way, I am very eager to see how this unfolds
I think both Ruby and Neo are going to be the aggressor. I think they fight in hand to hand or with weapons.
its good to c a video from you
I feel like it would be quite out of character for Ruby to snap at Jaune even if she does discover that he dealt the killing blow
Everyone has a limit and ruby been trough the wringer already since volume 3. Losing friends because of her enemies.
Its only a mayter of time before she snaps into a rage
Still hoping for neo redemption
Same
50/50 Neo redemption arc.
Or Ruby killing Neo due to mental breakdown
Both very interesting.
@@cherrydragon3120 redemption arc bring the only thing in which I continue watching the show
Awesome theory!
I love the stories/theories you create of what's to come for future Rwby
It gets me really excited and hoping it all becomes true.
RWBY: Ice Queendom, anime adaptation spinoff. You should make trailer analysis about it, especially I'm waiting for Phyrrah in team JNPR.
*gasp* it birb! birb here! birb has video, and the cat likes
long time no see phoenix but glad to see you!
stay crispy birb
This battle of this rivalry will be awesome but also must end this hate and vengeance becomen friends
This will probably be like Peter vs Harry from Spider man 3.
@Hakuna Matava Precisely.
You missed the fact that she was betrayed by cinder. That possibility may make her rethink things.
About time there was another video and I can’t wait for your next one whenever that will be ……….. I just hope it’s sooner rather than later
I think that Ruby would be saddened and furious about what happened to Yang and would want to attack Neo to the point where she would come close to wanting to kill her.
I think ruby IS going to kill neo due to Yang and maybe even finding out that penny is dead again. She's probably gonna be in a mental rage
You know ruby could in the end of volume make Jaune an enemy in the end of volume 9.
Like she’ll see Jane as nothing more than a murderer and who practically betrayed her trust?
@@ketanmay8469 this is a just a theory but I feel ruby will partly be responsible for making an enemy but there has to be another factor to drive theme a part from good friends to mortal enemies and I think it might be that Salam is Jaune descended.
@@ketanmay8469 or something else.
I'm really excited to see how they'll encounters, I like your ideas ! I also think Penny's death will plays a lot in Ruby's behavior, knowing that she's already overwhelmed by everything that happened. She's likely going to be mad and react back. We kinda already saw her react with Emerald when she saw her with Oscar, she was ready to fight but she was stopped. So with the current situation and considering Neo literaly choked her during the fall, she wouldn't hesitate.
And if she sees penny as well? Boom mental breakdown.
If she then encounters neo. Its gonna be a fight though... Neo vs Ruby will be a highlight for sure and i'm also sure only 1 will walk away from that fight
Shot in the dark, What if blake and neo found each other first? or ruby and blake find each other, then find neo and jaune, and it goes down into a 2v2, i doubt blake is just gonna let go of the fact neo attacked yang, to the point where she thought yang was dead.
We could even see a repeat of the emerald forest, would be cool. Ruby finds weiss, blake finds yang, and jaune finds neo in place of pyrrah... or not, remember we dont know where exactly this is, this COULD be the land of the dead.
My apologies, New RWBY (Anime) came out today, just for heads up.
We shall see
This theory sounds really good, and would love to see it happen, but as well as that, I would love it if this world makes it so the characters that fell into it can communicate with the departed they were closest with, or have a connection to. Neo with Roman, Jaune with Pyrrha, Blake with Adam, Weiss with her father, Ruby with Penny, and Yang with Summer Rose. I would love it if that can be added to this theory as it would allow us to once again see these departed characters, perhaps in a new light with Adam and Weiss' dad. Really all for Jaune helping Neo move through her grief, perhaps he can even lay on that, in a way, she was involved in the plan that killed Pyrrha, but he does not take his revenge on her because it would not bring that loved one back.
Vol 9 will probably take up the emotional tolls the six characters has while they're stuck in the other realm. But I do like the theory of a conflict dynamic between Ruby, Neo, and Juane. With Ruby and Neo fighting having their blood feud and Juane stepping in as the mediator, I like to see how that turns out. Especially when Ruby gets angry due to the losses of the relics and Penny's death and she took it out on Neo because of her partial involvement with Cinder
Interesting team pairings for the Penny conflict x
Phoenix I hope you cover the RWBY anime that is being worked on
I plan to cover it for sure! Depending on what the anime covers (whether its a unique story or a remake of the beginning of the series) will dictate whether I do weekly reviews of it or occasional analysis videos
I also feel like yang is going attack neo right away
Hey Phoenix what do you think of the announcement of the new RWBY anime being made in Japan?
Sounds really interesting! I'm hoping we find out what the story is going to be like in the livestream later today. Whether its an alternate story (which seems likely) or a remake of the early volumes
@@PhoenixNight Considering the last bit where it looks like Weiss seeing an older version of herself it's more likely an alternate story.
I gotta know where you get your shirts, my guy. They are fire 🔥
The Neo shirt in this video was from the RT store a few years back, I don't know if they stock it anymore.
@@PhoenixNight that explains it. I stopped shopping them a while back, but maybe it's worth a second look. Thanks
Hey, have you seen the RWBY Anime Adaptation Trailer yet?
When season 9 RWBY will be shown, tell me
Maybe Penny dying is a way for the show to stop the Neo vs Ruby plot without one of them dying. Maybe Ruby's reaction to Penny's death will be enough of a revenge for Neo, because now they've both lost someone special.
Thats an interesting take. Tho i think this will make ruby snap mentaly and attack Neo again
well we both saw juane and weiss fall off together so we'll prob see ruby trying to survive with neo hunting her down since in the promo neo and her dematerialized together... but im hoping since rooster teeth delayed it prob be seeing more fights hopefully.
I hope this series and volume 9 come soon will really good of fun do next 10 seasons just average like very cool new make better choices
I wonder if they will address the citizens that got knocked off. I don't expect they will being very forgiving.
Yo Phoenix, what are those books on your shelf? Asking because I need stuff to read. Any recommendations are welcome.
(Edit: Have already read roman holiday)
Those are the No Game No Life light novels. They are an excellent series as long as you can overlook the somewhat excessive fanservice of some of the artwork
Parallels! That would be neat.
I'm just waiting where It's confirmed Oscar's parents are Ozpin and Salem
very unlikely but that would be cool
Still hoping for these
Can the child of a maiden inherit magic
Connections between Semblances and personalities
Maiden powers are given to whoever is in the maidens last thought. If no one is in that thought, the powers vanish and go to someone random.
Pretty sure a dying maiden with a child would have said child in mind before death
@@cherrydragon3120 I meant could be able to perform magic from the start
This fight is gonna probably end in a stalemate before they reach a truth and talk.
Also why does one have to be the aggressor? Couldn’t they both run head long into each other after both seeing one another? Maybe they both continue the fight as if it never stopped.
I wanted to say this alot earlier but I was busy with other life things.
If Neo found Crescent rose (can turn it into the sniper function.)First she would just fain losing her voice (cause mute) if she ever got in contact with any of the others on the island.
I doubt it but it would be cool.
I do think They can use dust and use Semblances. As they could use them in the vault space it wouldn't be any different where the Portal PathWays Was.
I very much would like Neo keeping Romans memory. The Hat. I think she would eventually recieve her hush. Maybe thats what she finds first.
Jaune is the stick in the cog of Neos Revenge. Jaune beliefs are that no one has to die. He has had his own team mate die
May pyrrah rest in peace. (or attempt to in Rens case. Nora causing over electrical shock to leave scars aswell.) for a losing battle.
Do I think ruby will get mad at neo yes. Do I think she will blame her? No.
Ruby cared for Penny. And it's going to be a heartbreaking moment of jaune having to tell Ruby that.
I doubt we will ever see the body.
Hey what's up to the srph episode.
This is a cool theory. By the way, how do you guys think the remaining villains’ defeats and deaths should be in the final volume?
This might be to dark for the show, but everyone gangs up on Cinder and Jaune deals the final blow by chopping off her head using the Sword of Destruction. Maybe they way they could do this is by showing Cinders shadow as it happens. On the other hand, I think Ozpin should deal the final hit to Salem, seeing as Salem and Ozpin kinda started the whole show and plot in the first place. Then they find a way to either heal or convince Salem that she needs to understand the meaning of life and death.
When is chapter five of team srph will come i love that series
Phoenix!!! ❤️
I'm still curious, about how the communication will work between Neo and the others.
Lots of them talking and neo nit responsing probably. She hates them and specificly ruby. They don't like her either. Why would neo respond to then
Ruby rose becomes vengeful like Adam Taurus, right?
With the new book about Neo and Roman, I'm hoping Roman will make a reappearance.
Did you intend to wear a Neo shirt and you're talking about her?
Honestly, looking at past events, I think Neo will get the Adam treatment. She'll be too far gone in her rage and hatred, thus leaving the heroes no choice but to kill or be killed.
In fact it'd be kind of nice seeing Ruby's dark side for once by her mocking Neo with Roman's last words and laughing about how he died right when he yelled "Survive!"
Dark Ruby is something I've always wanted to see, and her killing Neo would be a weirdly fitting end to Neo and Roman's legacy; they died, but successfully corrupted Ruby.
Plus It'd be kind of cool if Ruby took Torchwick's hat as a trophy. I mean come on, that hat would actually kind of suit her.
I doubt that will happen. But i agree on 1 thing.
Seeing penny will probably cause ruby to snap mentaly. And neo being the only villain we know off sofar in V9... i do also think she is going to get the Adam treatment with Ruby killing her out of pure anger after everything that happened.
Cause as far Ruby knows. Everyone is as good as dead. Unles she figures they sre not cuz she is not but whatever. Seeing neo and Penny will cause some conflict. And i really think Ruby is going to get her first human kill here.
I don't wanna see neo dying :( but i like ruby more soooo choice made
Curious thing about those 3 characters
They lost a very close person to each one of them as well that person consider them close too which have red/ginger hair
Ruby lose Penny, Jaune lose Phyrra and Neo lose Roman
Those 3 on the same day and the same event
There is a lot of hope for jaune is gonna be a big player this volume, watch him do nothing... The writers have done this before.
I feel like Theo was always just going to betray sender I just think she was waiting and using her
Man, it's been a long time since your last video. Why so long? I think that maybe it will be Ruby that attacks Neo, regardless of whether or not she finds Pennys body. Ruby will be too full of anger to think clearly. Be sure to do a video of RWBY: Ice Queendom too
I'm probably wrong but wouldn't it be mind-blowin IF a grim hasn't killed you first, the act of being swallowed takes you to another dimension ?😳 What happens when grim get "destroyed"? Where do they go? Maybe Roman got sent to the this new dimension everyone seems to be ending up on.
HAHA FIRST!
Hey man, how’s it hanging?
This is the only fight that matters in the show because it is basically the only one that Ruby could lose.
I can jaune and neo being like the cap civil war scence bucky and cap against Ironman with ruby being Ironman
Hopefully she finds out about Penny's...fate before the rematch with Neo. Great fuel for battle~ GET REVENGE FOR MY BEST GIRL!!!
I think that Team RWBY could hate Jaune for killing Penny and leave him alone (without hearing him out), and after that he could find Neo, both of them are alone and decide to stick together
I think This entire thing is set up for Ruby to go trough a mental Rage.
Volume 3 with Pyrrah and Penny
Later with Yang.
Qrow being poisoned.
Finding out her mom was killed by Salem and probably turned in a grimm
And now finding out Penny is dead AGAIN.
I am very sure this is to torment Ruby. The entire series has done nothing but putting Ruby trough a wringer of mental torment. And this is probably going to be the Volume where Ruby is going to snap into a murderous rage and perhaps just as blake and yang with Adam.... gets her first Human Kill. Wich is probably but i hope not, gonna be Neo.
If Neo's a Maiden, I will flip if Cinder kills her tho cuz lowkey I think she is one or at least one of the Team Members of RWBY
I agree with everything Phoenix said but replace Jaune with Yang it just fits a bit better to me that way given there history between them.
Is Neo even strong enough to use Crescent Rose?
I don't see the scenario where Neo and Ruby use each other's weapons playing out because, I believe it's been confirmed that Neo, while undoubtedly one of the highest tier fighters in the show, is very weak when it comes to brute strength so she won't be able to wield Crescent Rose anywhere near as efficiently as Ruby or just about anyone else can...unless Crescent Rose is made out of some really light material and I missed that. All the other scenarios sound pretty solid. Especially the theory where Ruby finds Penny and come to the conclusion that Jaune killed her. That was pretty well thought out.
Yo, can Rooster Teeth hire this guy?
I think crescent rose is pretty heavy. Jaune in volume 1 has hold it for but a moment and pretty much almost dropped it instantly
Neopolitan is furious with Ruby because Neopolitan still thinks that she killed Roman and now she blames her for Cinder's betrayal in the sense she wants to see Ruby dead
woo the non upload streak has been broken XD
I think Ruby is going to attack first
yknow since they again downplayed rubys semblance... she could kill anything if she didn't rematerialize them inside of her semblance...
I can't see Ruby even caring about Penny. I'm mostly speaking out of being jaded but I still don't forgive the team for making Penny's return into such a joke. There was no emotion when they met up again and just shrugged off as "pretty wholesome, sounds like Penny" completely spitting in the face of the emotion shown in volume 3 when she died
Honestly I still want Neo to finish her off
I’m kinda a bit neutral about this
Am I the only one who wants to see neo put in her place I'm not saying kill her but she lead to many civ deaths she's tried to kill team RWBY and wants nothing more than Ruby's death not lying if I ran across her I'd have it's them or me mentality
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