This was great. Although I gotta say: the final/general EQ is way too fat (as in low frequencies) for the 70s standard. But sounds great for a modern recording that wants that 70s character.
I would have to agree with you on this These drums were recorded for was an Hip-hop/Electronic track so the drums were beefed up to accommodate that situation.
So good to watch someone who actually achieves what we’re looking for with no BS and shows us in a minute or two how to replicate it! So many of these ‘top producers’ on TH-cam talk for hours and have 25 mics on the kit and it sounds like crap! More vids like this please!!!!! How about getting a Bill Ward (black sabbath)sound? Keep going!
Appreciate u & this vid.. I’m sure I’m not the only one who is rooting for u to make more... great insight, plus everything including your drumming, mic placement, and mix processing techniques are all very solid (imo). Overall sound is top tier.
Really really cool. And the way you did the video is so good and informative with no talking etc. As someone else says below, no BS! I'm curious about the sympathetic ringing from, I assume, the toms reso heads, which I have when I try this sort of thing, and it sort of drives me nuts. I realize it would mostly disappear when putting music over it, but did you consider eliminating it?
Thanks! The ringing probably isn't that much of a problem in the context of a mix. If it was in a mix, I would cut out the empty space on the tom tracks anyway to eliminate and clean up any unwanted ringing, no matter how quiet it is. But at the end of the day, it's a drum kit and the drums are going to ring and buzz together, that's the nature of the instrument. But, there are ways to control it if you like to do that.
Questions... How exactly are the overheads positioned with respect to the kit? Can't see them in the video. Also, how do you think it would sound just to use a single mono overhead?
The overheads were positioned right in the middle of the kit and on a slight angle. If you stood in front of the drums the angle of the mics would be about 2 and 8 o'clock along an imaginary line that runs through the kick and snare. This puts the snare and kick in the centre of the stereo image. If you look up George Massenburg you'll find some more info on this technique. He uses a spaced pair of overheads but I found it works well for X/Y and ORTF overheads too. I think mono would definitely work for this sound as well. To get this sound, most of the vibe is going to come from the drums themselves. So, if you tune and muffle appropriately then it should get you most of the way there!
I think so. According to a 1965 Premier drum catalog it's called the "52" or "53" model. . Oddly enough, those kit configurations didn't come with a floor-tom, only a rack tom!
Unfortunately I don't have one shots but I do have a loop and some fills of this kit. You can download them from the free folder link the in the video description!
Cool video folks. Very cut to the chase!! As a drummer with 30 plus years of experience the 70s mainstream sound was not my cup of tea. Very staccato!!! I liked the snare, but everything else doesn't work for me. Everything has it's place. Cheers.
@@SaltedMallows "pre" is referring to the microphone preamp. The signal from the microphone passes through the preamp before going into the interface and then computer. RME make excellent preamps and interfaces.
Good question, I think that it starts with the internal balance of the drummer and how loud they are playing the elements of the kit in relation to each other. Bleed is inevitable but I find that "self mixing" right from the beginning can help when it comes to actually mixing the drums. It also depends on the mic, placement and room. Gates also can work well in some situations to eliminate mic bleed as well!
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This was great. Although I gotta say: the final/general EQ is way too fat (as in low frequencies) for the 70s standard. But sounds great for a modern recording that wants that 70s character.
I would have to agree with you on this These drums were recorded for was an Hip-hop/Electronic track so the drums were beefed up to accommodate that situation.
How does this not have more views, this was extremely helpful
Probably because its for a very specific audience that have a very specific problem
Facts
Salted true true. We do be going for that Tame Impala lonerism sound tho
That 18" bass drum sounds like a 30" bass drum! So cool!
So good to watch someone who actually achieves what we’re looking for with no BS and shows us in a minute or two how to replicate it! So many of these ‘top producers’ on TH-cam talk for hours and have 25 mics on the kit and it sounds like crap! More vids like this please!!!!!
How about getting a Bill Ward (black sabbath)sound?
Keep going!
3:20 beautyfull sound of snare drums!
Woww my vieja! That’s the sound that I’ve been looking for!!
Appreciate u & this vid.. I’m sure I’m not the only one who is rooting for u to make more... great insight, plus everything including your drumming, mic placement, and mix processing techniques are all very solid (imo). Overall sound is top tier.
Great tones man! Im getting into recording more vintage drums so this was a helpful video! Thank you!
Thanks! Glad it helped!
End product sounds great.
Killer tones!
Awesome
love it.. 70s drums are the best
Thanks. Exactly what I was looking for.
Thanks for making this video
You got a very cool sound. Thank you for a tutorial!
Welcome!
I just came across this video, pretty informative and we use similar VST'S haha
Really really cool. And the way you did the video is so good and informative with no talking etc. As someone else says below, no BS! I'm curious about the sympathetic ringing from, I assume, the toms reso heads, which I have when I try this sort of thing, and it sort of drives me nuts. I realize it would mostly disappear when putting music over it, but did you consider eliminating it?
Thanks! The ringing probably isn't that much of a problem in the context of a mix. If it was in a mix, I would cut out the empty space on the tom tracks anyway to eliminate and clean up any unwanted ringing, no matter how quiet it is. But at the end of the day, it's a drum kit and the drums are going to ring and buzz together, that's the nature of the instrument. But, there are ways to control it if you like to do that.
so happy to stumble across this
Great Video! Thank you for your time and good taste.
YEA!! so cool. love the sound youre getting there
Talk about hacking it to get your sound! Great job! Thanks for putting this up.
thank you so much !
awesome drum sound, thanks! Great idea on the trash mic.
this is awesome
Soo good! Dude please explain how to achieve tame Impala’s Currents drum sound.
Thanks, I'll consider it!
Great job! Sounds clean and 70'ish .
Thanks!
wow, amazing sound, thanks
thank you for this video!!
Thank for watching!
That kick sounds sweet.
This is sick
No sé cómo llegué aquí, pero estoy agradecido, buen video hermano.
This is so well done! Thank you
Good job !!! 👍🏾
Nice!!!!
Questions...
How exactly are the overheads positioned with respect to the kit? Can't see them in the video. Also, how do you think it would sound just to use a single mono overhead?
The overheads were positioned right in the middle of the kit and on a slight angle. If you stood in front of the drums the angle of the mics would be about 2 and 8 o'clock along an imaginary line that runs through the kick and snare. This puts the snare and kick in the centre of the stereo image. If you look up George Massenburg you'll find some more info on this technique. He uses a spaced pair of overheads but I found it works well for X/Y and ORTF overheads too. I think mono would definitely work for this sound as well. To get this sound, most of the vibe is going to come from the drums themselves. So, if you tune and muffle appropriately then it should get you most of the way there!
@@kylekrysadrums Thank you so much!
Hey ! Awesome ! Could u share the Plug-in Presets ?
Sure! I could also send you the entire session if you like as well. It would include the multitrack drums and the plug in presets.
@@kylekrysadrums that would be sooo dopee !!
i will send ur a message with my Email :)
Slate plugins are pretty great.
Great video
Sounds amazing! Love the sound of 70's Premier drums does that kit have an official name?
I think so. According to a 1965 Premier drum catalog it's called the "52" or "53" model. . Oddly enough, those kit configurations didn't come with a floor-tom, only a rack tom!
@@kylekrysadrums That's wild thanks for taking the time to share that with me!
Real cool, just give us mire time to read!
Thanks for this,kit sounds like "the nightfly"Donald fagens.
Thanks! I'm a huge fan of his album The Nightfly!
Great sound! Do you have the one shot samples of this drum kit?
Unfortunately I don't have one shots but I do have a loop and some fills of this kit. You can download them from the free folder link the in the video description!
You really need to leave the captions up for longer. I’m like 3 lines in before it moves to the next slide.
Cool video folks. Very cut to the chase!! As a drummer with 30 plus years of experience the 70s mainstream sound was not my cup of tea. Very staccato!!! I liked the snare, but everything else doesn't work for me. Everything has it's place. Cheers.
So siiick. Also are these going directly into your RME as well or external pre's? Thanks!
Hey, I'm using api 3124 pre's!
@@kylekrysadrums Thanks sounds fantastic!
For us lamens what are RME and PRE
@@SaltedMallows "pre" is referring to the microphone preamp. The signal from the microphone passes through the preamp before going into the interface and then computer. RME make excellent preamps and interfaces.
what plugins are those?
They are the Slate Digital Mix Rack plug ins!
what is the name of the song/project you used this sound for ? would really like to hear it in the context of a whole arrangement!
I'll find out if the the artist I recorded this for has released the song, then I can let you know!
What are those plug ins? Are they usable in ableton?
They are Slate plug-ins. Yes, you can use them in Ableton!
how in the WORLD was the snare so isolated. My kick bleeds hard into my snare mic
Good question, I think that it starts with the internal balance of the drummer and how loud they are playing the elements of the kit in relation to each other. Bleed is inevitable but I find that "self mixing" right from the beginning can help when it comes to actually mixing the drums. It also depends on the mic, placement and room. Gates also can work well in some situations to eliminate mic bleed as well!
What tape plug in are you using?
Virtual Tape Machine by Slate!
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how chewed are his sticks tho? XD
Jack Hopkins thats what happens when you play rimshots
Not gonna lie, I came
😂 Thanks, Mr. Orwell.