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- Here's how I go about getting huge drum sounds in my small drum studio (room dimensions are 18'x12'x7.5' ceiling). In order of importance: I discuss the playing technique, the drums, tuning, muffling, mic placement, outboard gear, and mixing considerations. Boom!
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Bro. You're gonna be YUUUGE BRO.
yuuuuuuuuuugggggeeeee.
Andrew Masters BRRRUUUHHHH
I'm loving all the youtube love
Ezest follo
"I'm JUST a drummer". But "here's my Neve, DXb , 421s through a BDS 360 distressor...."
lol
But ... but ... but ...
he is just a drummer who happened to engineered led zep
Jake Reed estimated cost of recording gear? 5K ish?
@@drofnoise555 with the vintage kit, all the outboard stuff and the mics im guessing more like 30k :D
Just the fet47 on the kick is around 3k let alone the rest. Nice done like the sound
for not "being an engineer" you sure have some great gear.
Thanks! I’ll always consider myself more of a drummer who engineers than an engineer who plays drums.
No kidding haha
@@MrAdrianloera I thought the same thing, I want to be an engineer and was like i wish I knew my shit this well lmao crazy how much there is to learn to be an engineer
@@TheNinjaGamingHQ learning how to engineer has been like learning a new instrument.
Yowza! No kidding. 😍
You say you're not en engineer but you have some extremely high-end rack gear, excellent plugins, superb mics and you know how to use the stuff. I'd say you're an engineer.
Great drumming and great sounds. Nice work.
I seriously don't know if I've ever heard such an accurate recreation of that hardy Bonham sound.
Wow! Thank you!
Hearty Bonham Beef in a savory seventies stew!
Search Bonhamology and Bonzoleum on YT lol
This is a great representation of Bonhams sound!. Your playing kicks ass too. Love it!
@@paulrye4597 It's not just a soup - it's a meal!
One thing you left out:
Monitoring WITH the compression/fx is soooo important unless you're a seasoned session player, and even if you are, the result will be better when you hear the actual sound of music WHILE playing it.
I find that if you aren't playing with compression/limiting, you're never going to nail "the sound", whether its John Bonham, Dave Grohl, Kevin Parker, or even Phil Collins. You have to react to the compressor in real time, not apply it in post. Monitoring into a brick wall limiter is like a dance between you and your dynamic control..
I know that this is difficult when trying to eliminate latency... but try it, see how many plugins you can put on before latency occurs. even with a super simple setup and stock plugins, you can make this sound in your monitors. You just have to get the performance right. "getting it right at the source" doesn't mean monitoring dry; that can often make things feel flat and lifeless, and you may hit harder or play differently in general as a result of a dry headphone mix. For me, "getting it right at the source" means about 10-15 minutes of listening and adjusting in the room, then the next 3-4 hours are me playing INTO the mix, not waiting till its done later. Kind of top down, but moreso just to create an inspiring starting point.
Try the Protools "smack" plugin if you're a protools user. It works like a charm, and it doesn't cause any lag when tracking. I even use it in final mixdowns a lot.. good shit!
HiI! i'm a sound engineer, you're making it sound good, on one care what your EQ's look like. mix with your ears ! you just got it man
Thanks dude! That is reassuring!
Thanks for the pointers. Can not wait to try it out. Keep up the good work. Loving the content so far.
You're welcome! Let me know how it goes!
The sound and the playing is absolute fantastic, Bro!! Not just for a small room, but for every room!
Thank you!
The whole bit about the build up on the big drums and you cut to you sitting there looking bored before the big crash on the 1 is just comic genius. I think you made a style here. Entertaining and informative.
H U G E ! Outstanding show sir. Just starting out on the recording end of drums. Yourself and Andrew Masters are helping us learn. Get to watch again and again and again and no rewind! Thanks.
Thanks! Glad to be of some help!
Holy shit. This was exactly what I needed in a recording and drumming perspective and was a lot fun to watch! Keep it up!
Yay! Happy to help!
Dude you gotta make a vid about that sick ass marimba back there that has been teasing me this whole time
Great idea!
Having that iPhone mic was awesome, now I know how it should feel behind the kit! it was always confusing knowing that whatever tuning i was doing was going to be completely different under the mics. Cheers man, so much knowledge here
Great! Glad I could help ... yeah, it's crazy how the mics pick things up differently right? And then we have to consider how it all sits in a mix!
This is a DAMN FINE video. Suuuper entertaining. Super funny. Really really informative. And just hella fun. Thanks!
You’re really good at “making”. Please keep it up.
I’m showing this video to EVERYbody. ✌🏼
THANK YOU!!!
Some of the best drum recording information on youtube. Thank You!!
You’re welcome! And thank YOU for the kind words.
The finished drums sound great! Based on the final mix, I would never have guessed that the drums were recorded in such a small space. Very well done!
Man, it sounds fantastic, thanks so much, enjoying your videos on this topic particularly the 70's sounds one
Thank you! Glad you’re enjoying them!
Love all your doing. It’s educational it’s inspiring, motivating and it’s funny dude
awww thanks! Happy to help and inspire!
THOROUGHLY enjoyed! Jake, you are absolutely doing it RIGHT. You're a heck of a producer/engineer. I've been working on my drum sounds for 2-3 months. I'm not even CLOSE! LOL! :)
Thank you! Just keep chipping away at it and it'll keep getting better!
Sounds great, and great feel/playing!!
Thank you!
Really helpful - thank you
Drums sound awesome and alive man.... Good job... Keep it up
Thanks dude!
sounds great!! great chops, dude!
a. dausch thanks!
Good to see that you're using actual real drums. Most people fire up a shitty electronic 909 like VST with it's plastic sounds and have the nerve to call those sounds "drums".
Great video and great sound! Bravo. The real thing. Thanks.
Thank you! I appreciate the kind words!
Great playing and sound ~
bro i literally went straight to my studio and did this... it worked soooo well. using 16" crashes as hi hats is the key. I never realized how that could be the most significant part of the bonham sound. using a kick w/o a port hole is pretty important, but wow.. this is easier than i thought. Though, a crucial part of the 70's/bonham sound is using 1073's.. so I'll have to save up for a few more channels of those bad boys!!
I tried Gylnn Johns on the overheads, which sounds great, but it's making my kick lopsided, to the right speaker.. so I think I'll experiment with placement or move back to my typical spaced pair, which never fails, but may not be appropriate for this specific vibe. (I use ribbons on overheads so the glynn johns method was a no-brainer.) I think I either have to accept the fact that the drums are lopsided or shift around different placement, but then again, all the old classic rock drum recordings are lopsided.. often with the kick or snare vaguely placed more to the right, or the hats more to the left.. agh. Recording drums is fun, but man.. the stereo field is a bitch and a half! I was doing mono overheads & stereo rooms for about a year, and while it sounds great for pop & indie drums, it ain't great for capturing realism, which only stereo can truly offer.
Figure anything out since this comment? Interested to know!
What about now? Still lopsided?
Sweet, that was fun! Thanks.
Thank YOU!
this is gold! thanks you so much Jake.
Thanks man!
Killin tones man!
Amazing. If it sounds good it is good! Good stuff here.
Great drums comes with great quality players and Jake is a balance drummer
8:39 Real talk. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Awesome sounds Jake. Subscribe button smashed.
Thanks, Brian!
You're an inspiration man. At first I was like "wow, this guy's mic collection and gear alone puts his sound out of range." Nice 500 series preamps BTW. I built the GroupDIY version of the 11 pre rack (and separate power supply). That said you're completely right. It's really your talent and training hitting the drums at specific intensities as well as the tuning that really achieves those excellent tones / sounds. Thanks a lot for sharing. I'll continue to drool over your gear collection and excellent vintage drum specimens. :-)
Thanks so much for the kind words! Glad you’re feeling inspired!
So good man!
Thanks!
Super helpful thanks!
Yay! You're welcome!
DaMn that intro sounds so good.
Great vids so far. Keep it up.
Di Lissio thank you!!!
Killer video man! Awesome info and room/equipment. I first found you through Andrew's page.
Thank you! Andrew is the man!
This is the most entertaining and still super informative audio engineering video on TH-cam. And I have watched waayy to many.
Would love to see some more videos on drumming and engineering from you. Or just anything, make videos about boiling water, I don't care, I will watch them.
Thank you! Happy to help! More videos coming soon!
Waouh great sound !!!! and great drummer !!!
Thanks!
Super helpful thanks
great tips man, and great sound
Thank you!
2:05 mad respect broo that sounded phenomenal!
Thank you!
Sounds great!
Thanks!
Wowie! Killer sounds dude.
Thanks man!
Just subbed. I hope i can watch you blow up over the the next years (:
Love the humour and your vibe. Cheers from Germany (y)
Thanks!!!
sounds really great man!
Thanks dude!
Great stuff, I appreciate the broad scope of going from playing technique through plugins. Best line: “I don’t have a stairwell”.
Thanks, dude! It's true, I don't have a stairwell.
Where this was recorded was a loft ceiling with stone walls, as I recall seeing...they didn't show steps. Tho I guess there could have been.
I have the Vistalite. I wouldn't track with it unless live, but it's got an insane sound.
man.. Yea. Thank you very much for sharing that!
great video!
Linen Rib thank you!
The iphone often sounds SO good. Some of the best drums I have heard are from my iphone in a concrete room (garage) next to a sound controlled room (my studio) with the door open to where the drums are being played. I liked it so much I considered throwing the iphone audio into the mix on my DAW.
Your comment about how you hit the drums being responsible for most of the sound is spot on. I used to produce music and record bands and the biggest thing that ruins a drum recording (in my limited experience) are players who hit the drums way too hard.
Actually that muppets joke refers to stand up comedians “playing the room” and swapping out bits based on the people in attendance. Ex: a liberal young crowd in LA vs an older crowd in a conservative state. They’d cut religious jokes out for the latter and throw in dirtier jokes in LA. Playing the room in a nutshell.
This is an excellent video
Thank you!!!
The Best i'v ever seen!!
Thanks!
Dude, Jake, thank you for this video!!m I got some room mics this week and gonna give some tries thanks to your insights and sharing knowledge.
Thanks man! Have fun!
you sure nailed it
Thanks!
😂 I’m really tired and as I’m watching this I start to fall asleep. Then your voice pops in with, you’re not getting bored yet are you? Perfect timing. I’m awake, I’m awake. Ha! But it’s not boredom causing my narcolepsy. Great vid!
HAHA! YES! Thank you.
Thanks for the information. I have liked and subscribed.
Thanks! Happy to help! More to come!
Good stuff bro! Love your drumming. You say your not an engineer but everything sounds pretty well engineered to me!
Ha! Thank you! It's a work in progress.
Dude that was AWESOME. Really liked that you went player-geekery and gear geekery. Gotta get some giant cymbals for hats now....
PJ Doppke thanks! Yeah big, dark cymbals keep the harsh frequencies in check on this kind of stuff
just found out your channel thanks to the blessing of The Algorithm ™ and I'm already loving all your videos
haha! Thanks! love it ... all hail The Algorithm!
Thank You for this valuble information. I'll add a room mic to my setup next and try to mess around with it. My room is quite small, dry (carpeted walls) and has a low ceiling. So lets see what happens.
Really digging your videos, Jake. Funny & backed up by the sauce. Nice groove on this and great sound. The 70s vid was very cool too. BTW, I saw the KRK V8 in here - I've got a setting being delivered tomorrow - can't wait!
Thanks dude! Hope you dig the KRK V8s!
Brilliant!
Thank you!
Loved this! I covet the Coles 4038 🤤 I think I need a pair :)
Yeah, this is great
Thanks!
Good stuff, dig it!
Thank you!
Best drummer, this side of the entire western hemisphere!
awww shucks ... you guys ...
Amazing... and when I saw all the gear you have, surprise! haha
Thanks!
Great! Thanks 4 the tips:)
Thanks!
Wow for a guy that isn’t really an engineer you’ve got them slappin pretty hard bro, good job 👍🏽
Thanks!
you're such a great drummer wow
Thank you!
Heard about you through the great podcast you did with Tim Buell and this video was great! I’m definitely going to try the x3 room rule and see how that works in my room! Thanks for all the tips and info to how you do it! Cheers! 🤘🏼
Thanks! Yes, it was fun talking with Tim. Glad you enjoyed this video. Hopefully it will help you in some way!
Thx, dude, you are great. Using similar approach to record friends little band. Greetings from Ukraine!
Totally dialed. Props bro.
Thanks dude!
For that size room, I love the drum sound.
Thanks! Yeah, obviously there's nothing like being in an actual big room, but there are ways to come close in a tiny space!
This SUPER inspired me. I'm getting off youtube right now to work on my own drum space. Thank you!
YAAAY!!! Happy to help out and SUPER inspire!
Excelent!!
Thanks!
@@JakeReedmusic greetings from Argentina 🇦🇷
Loved it mdude. Wanna 2nd the request for a drum tuning video. Now it’s back to the endless effort of trying to play the cymbals quieter.
Sounds rad mane
Awesome! thanks..
love it
Thanks dude!
Dude is your face timed to the end of the ad because I died.
If it is, you are the best youtuber and I love you for making me feel cared for
Thanks! I totally planned that 😎
awesome
Thank you!
i only can say, Yaaaayyyyyyyy!! nice job man
THANK YOU!!!
Bang On!
Not a gear guy? Look at all that gear! You are a bonafide recording engineer, and that drum sound came out amazing
Thanks! I'm not a gear guy though. I only know about my gear and there's sooooo much more gear out there to learn about!
Hey, this is really awesome content! Subscribed :)
Thanks!
Awesome, it sounds huge ! It's kind of comforting people like me that having a small room is not the biggest issue ;)
Thanks! Totally, we just have to learn how to use our spaces most effectively!
The intro hit me so hard i heard there goes my hero
oh sick! love those classic Foo's albums.
Makes sense
amazing! 👍
thank you!
So basically about $30K of gear, very nicely tuned kit, high-end cymbals, and TALENT. Got it! ;)
To be fair, I got this kit for $300 ...
@@JakeReedmusic Doesn't sound like it. ;) Cheers!
Man, you have some nice gear
Thanks dude! Been building up the home studio set-up for quite a few years now.
I like the big sound of your drums. I’m still learning how to get my drums to sound big. I don’t have all the things you have. I have three mics, one condenser mic above the kit, snare mic, and the kick has a mic. I have it ran through a four channel mixer. If you would like to hear how my kit sounds you can go to my TH-cam channel to let me know what you think and give me some pointers. I make drum covers on my channel.
Hey! Just watched your Maroon Five video ... here are a couple pointers for you ... first, I'd mess around with the tuning of your drums a little bit ... try to get the toms and kick down to the lowest pitch you can before the get papery. Were those Evans hydraulics or G2's or something similar? Since there are no close mics on toms you'll really have to make them project! Again, when you have one overhead mix it's all about balancing yourself at the kit! Consider how loud you're playing the hihat compared to the snare. How hard are you hitting the kick compared to the snare? How hard do you need to hit the toms to balance their volume with the snare? These are all questions you can answer by recording yourself and listening back!
In terms of your OH mic placement, try putting it directly above the snare about 3 feet or so, record it, listen back. Then raise it a few inches, record it, listen back. How does the sound of the kit change? Then try lowering it about 3 inches from its original position and see how that sounds. It's definitely a process but very rewarding when you find something that works.
Please let me know how it goes!
Jake Reed, thank you for the pointers. I’ll give that a try. Thank you for checking it out.
Jake Reed, thank you for taking the time to watch my video and for the pointers. I will try all of those things mentioned. As far as heads, I use Evans black chrome on the toms, Evans emad clear on the kick, and the snare head is a remo emperor x coated. I’m going to try the Evans hybrid coated head on it since I like that head.
@@drummerjoey003 You're very welcome! Let me know how it goes!
If you are limited to only 4 channels, I would do some research on the Glyn Johns method of drum mic'ing. (ps - how did this not get mentioned on a video that makes so many Bonham references?!)
Thank you
Thank YOU!
It was helpful insofar as it was funny. I'm right at the beginning of learning studio stuff and I mostly though "lots of hardware outboard, nice variety of mics, great playing, hilarious editing". Yuuuuuuuge, huge, big, huge sounding, big drums. #huge
Thanks!
well, this was sick
Thanks!
Wow - impressive video Jake! That kick sounds INSANE!!!! Andy was telling me it's a 50's era and 22'' x 14''' - that's YUUUUGGGGEEEE. You need to sell shirts that say 'I came for the stash but I stayed for the sounds.' Lol.
Thanks! Yes, it's a 3 ply so it's a little thinner and therefore has a lower fundamental tone than newer 6+ ply kicks! Wow ... great shirt idea ... i'll send over the contract :-)
@@JakeReedmusic Well you have 3 sales ready to go in this house (including the kiddo) :D