BLUE THUNDER!!! Logging with a $320 ms460 clone with Mitch Zenobi. Reviewing the Holzfforma G466

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  • @robertklaiber2441
    @robertklaiber2441 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Sawyer from Montana here, that Mitch Zenobi guy is a badass. I don't think I've seen someone fell so precisely with such little effort ever in my life. Fun video, thanks

  • @dhooter
    @dhooter ปีที่แล้ว +186

    10 years ago the clones were 99 bucks free shipping. Bought two and they still run. I even keep them outside in the elements. They always start and run lol

    • @GotrekGurninsson
      @GotrekGurninsson ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I have an 8yo echo top handle knock off. Still trucking to this day I use it every year. Honestly think it would outlast a real echo

    • @gl9500
      @gl9500 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      10 years ago, I spent a $1,000 on a stihl. Today use ones go for $1000.

    • @Jamesvh122
      @Jamesvh122 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      I'm sure this guy could get 99 for his saw too. Also inflation is a bitch.

    • @b85douglas
      @b85douglas 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@gl9500 who saved money for same result

    • @AverageHouseHusband
      @AverageHouseHusband 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@@gl9500 For me the question is does a 10 year old saw have the functional value of 3 new clone saws and realistically nope...

  • @_Cleck_
    @_Cleck_ ปีที่แล้ว +21

    If anyone gets one of these, tuning these was interesting. We put a tach on mine and it was about 8k on the high end. That's how much they had it tuned down. I think we ended up going 11.5-12k to stay safe. Huge difference.

    • @gabrielcheneyholub3330
      @gabrielcheneyholub3330 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why are higher revs better? are they safer? cut better?

    • @_Cleck_
      @_Cleck_ ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@gabrielcheneyholub3330 it's like running a car in its powerband. It just performs better in this range. It's more efficient, it's more responsive, it cuts smoothly, etc. Every saw has its own powerband/Rev limit you don't want to go over, or like a car, you'll be building a new motor.

    • @TheDennys21
      @TheDennys21 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@gabrielcheneyholub3330 more revs=cuts faster, it ain't rocket science.

  • @jimc3891
    @jimc3891 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I am enjoying watching a new generation of Arborists using the latest technology, tools, gear, and knowledge. Taking tree work to a new level. Sure helps having the internet for getting what you are doing to all of us out there. Am 72, became a licensed Arborist in Ct. back in 1981. Mostly Consult these days, and Tree Warden in my town. In the Ct Statutes outlining the duties of a Tree Warden, the one I am really fond of is “responsible for roadside beauty.” Can’t beat that for part of your job description.

  • @petermccuskey1832
    @petermccuskey1832 2 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    My youngest son has got this and ported, polished, tuned exhaust using it for one of his milling saws. Its a beast and still kicking after 2 yrs.

    • @fanosoX
      @fanosoX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Does he run it rich?

    • @jimnaz5267
      @jimnaz5267 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      EVERY DOLLAR YOU SPEND ON A CHINESE PRODUCT, BUYS ANOTHER CHINESE BULLET TO KILL AMERICANS WAKE UP.

    • @hardcoreplayafromthehimala4888
      @hardcoreplayafromthehimala4888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@fanosoX you don't have to run it rich to be safe, just muffler mod and 33:1 low flash point synthetic oil.

  • @johntwemlow6089
    @johntwemlow6089 2 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    I live in New Zealand, and thoroughly enjoying this new "Guilty of Treeson" TH-cam Channel. You have a relaxing, engaging way of communicating your message. It also looks like you have a real "community" of saw men in your part of the world. Great to watch and hear.

    • @jimnaz5267
      @jimnaz5267 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      EVERY DOLLAR YOU SPEND ON A CHINESE PRODUCT, BUYS ANOTHER CHINESE BULLET TO KILL AMERICANS WAKE UP.

    • @theodoresylvester
      @theodoresylvester ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😊 9:27

  • @drewd2046
    @drewd2046 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I have the 660 version, for what it is I really like it. Cut a decent amount of wood with it. The cheesy little gas can for mine though was a mix jug. Filled the small side to the line for the ratio you want and the bog side with gas then shake the can and it auto mixes. Cheesy but cool lol

    • @red606
      @red606 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Any issues with it yet or still awesome?
      I'm interested in these.

  • @ivanmosqueda7947
    @ivanmosqueda7947 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    By far the coolest guy you have worked with since stepping away from east side. Keep up the cool vids man 🤙

    • @falfield
      @falfield 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is this a style show? Is that all it is for you? Hmmmn.

  • @johndunbar2393
    @johndunbar2393 2 ปีที่แล้ว +344

    I'm really digging the direction of this new channel and how it's playing out. It really showcases the personalities in the tree work industry. It keeps it "fresh", that's an old 80's term for all you youngsters out there. Thanks for sharing Jake and thanks for the long videos. Nothing worse than getting into a video and then poof, it's over. Take care fella!

    • @jackmazza5742
      @jackmazza5742 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I loved you in Dances with Wolves

    • @johndunbar2393
      @johndunbar2393 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@jackmazza5742 Thanks Jack. It was the highlight of my career.

    • @pioneerman8467
      @pioneerman8467 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow he's really 6"10 Dame

    • @justintothetruth
      @justintothetruth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great comment

    • @justintothetruth
      @justintothetruth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great comment John

  • @Fast85FoxGT
    @Fast85FoxGT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    I run a old MS460 that has a big bore 54mm kit on it and it does pretty well. Its a hand-me-down saw that was owned by my father who rebuilt it. It was given to him by an old Korean war vet who actually was the one who taught my dad how to fall and cut trees (when he moved to my state before I was born our house had a wood fireplace and he would buy cords of wood prior to him meeting the family friend.) The family friend passed away at age 88. He was slinging around a old 088 until he was 80 or so. I will always treasure this saw.

  • @timjohnson780
    @timjohnson780 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    That saw held up rather well to be compared to a big ported stihl. My buddy bought a holzforma saw had is 3 years now still runs good. I'm a stilh tech were a licensed Stihl dealer I'm always working on them. Love the content. We're going to buy a couple holzforma saws and throw em into rental see how they hold up.

    • @blakenoble4014
      @blakenoble4014 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Rental items are usually treated rough, that'll be a good way to test the saws.

    • @JMGeranimo
      @JMGeranimo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Would love to hear how they are. Any news?

    • @stevenbrown5210
      @stevenbrown5210 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      How'd it go?!?

    • @diggerdave.6587
      @diggerdave.6587 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It'd be fun to get one ported and see how it holds up after that.

  • @GPOutdoors
    @GPOutdoors ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Enjoyed the video - you folks are having way too much fun. Really appreciate the narrative explaining why you do things the way you do. Cheers and all the best!

  • @MuhaloTube
    @MuhaloTube 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    "I pounded my wedge a little too far. Stupid chinese saw" XD Seemed to handle that 32 inch bar pretty well actually.

  • @lawrenceferriter7010
    @lawrenceferriter7010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    This is gold!! The 90cc ported saw is sick. I thought Ricky Carmichael was riding by

    • @glennllewellyn7369
      @glennllewellyn7369 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same!
      That little shit is everywhere…

  • @emccolly
    @emccolly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thoroughly enjoyed this one. Good humor, editing and educational content.

  • @logicalguy488
    @logicalguy488 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You guys are awesome I can watch you work all day. Great sense of humor plus I learnt a lot. Thanks.

  • @cylancedugoud7305
    @cylancedugoud7305 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Keep in mind, Gents. Apples to Apples. To look at efficiency and speed, you'd need to have the same bar, same chain, and ... same RPM ... for each saw, to have a direct comparison. 90 cc can pull more teeth through a piece of wood, but 75 cc could do it faster, if the RPM's were higher. Sorry, I'm a science guy. Thanks for the video, though. Nice to meet ya, Mitch!

    • @bairfamilyfarm1336
      @bairfamilyfarm1336 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Low end torque is a bigger factor than rpm. A slower saw with more low end torque will cut faster than a fast saw with little low end torque. Once that sharp chain bogs down the saw it doesn’t take much for a high torque motor to recover as where a fast motor with little torque will require backing off and cutting slower.

    • @tcmits3699
      @tcmits3699 ปีที่แล้ว

      Two interesting points, wonder if a chain saw had a 2 speed trans or gear reduction providing more torque at a lower chain speed, what would be the results? Just food for thought

    • @Whyohwhygarage
      @Whyohwhygarage ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m in Shelton and from Michigan. I’ve been cutting wood my entire life and learned a few tricks!

  • @benjobello
    @benjobello 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Jake you make some great videos man!! Thanks for all the info on your falling and the saws!! It’s so helpful

    • @jimnaz5267
      @jimnaz5267 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      EVERY DOLLAR YOU SPEND ON A CHINESE PRODUCT, BUYS ANOTHER CHINESE BULLET TO KILL US... WAKE UP.

  • @muskyman1018
    @muskyman1018 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Really enjoyed the vid, I’ve considered one of the blue thunders for milling, and as a power pull power head. I haven’t done a lot of falling in recent years, so fun to see some techniques I never even knew about. Stay safe.

  • @tomasjosefvela1
    @tomasjosefvela1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    UGH!!! missed the raffle!! It's ok though really loving the new channel, thanks for sharing all the fun and really great info/instruction/tech tips.

  • @localcrew
    @localcrew 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I bought a Holzfforma G372 about four years ago and it’s now my “Go to” saw. I’m a Stihl guy but I had a Husky bar & chain and for about 190 bucks and free shipping I took a chance. Break them in and get the carb adjusted right and they’re great saws. If need be, there’s always my Stihl 461 to fall back on.
    Great video. Just subscribed!

    • @96cr
      @96cr ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the big thing is you can work on these saws before the factory started building them crappy

  • @ryansalera
    @ryansalera 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Had my eye on one these for a few months now, cool to see more content on TH-cam about these saws.

    • @jackslate9152
      @jackslate9152 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Identical to the name brand and literally can use their parts. Only bits I've heard to check if having issues been the coils and carb. Mainly coils by a ton. Oe coil replacement and tune it

  • @hdhhc5555
    @hdhhc5555 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Love the videos!!! I bought a g660 over a month ago. It's working great so far . Knock on wood! Lol I really like it actually. I am a stihl guy but can't afford that big saw from stihl.

  • @noocnosaj
    @noocnosaj 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oh man, such top quality content... thanks for taking the time to make itl!

  • @macksmith7529
    @macksmith7529 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have a G660 3rd generation that has about 6 tanks of gas through it. From the store it ran rich and I left it there for two tanks and leaned it some. It’s running strong on 24 to 30 inch rounds so far.

  • @AviewFromUnder
    @AviewFromUnder ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Reading forces of standing wood is one thing but reading forces in laying wood is often far more complex! We can fuss and fuss over how to fell the tree then move into bucking with no regard or fear of the outcome. All said I enjoy your videos and you do quality work!

  • @JohnSmith-pn1vv
    @JohnSmith-pn1vv 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    @25:45 great advice, after watching your vids I tackled a few smaller gum trees all leaning on a hill. They kept falling the opposite way which was not a problem as we were in the bush and knew it was going that way. Great tip to avoid that

  • @SwitchUpYt
    @SwitchUpYt 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    36:00 the MOST satisfying cut I've seen haha

  • @stihlnz
    @stihlnz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I've had 3 460's ...they are great light saw's, for limbing and running around with a 24" bar compared to the 660/880 ... with a barker box and square ground chain it's my favourite saw.

  • @gametime2473
    @gametime2473 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    That big Stihl was insanely powerful. It went through a huge trunk like butter.

    • @chadklaren9537
      @chadklaren9537 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah they do that in soft wood

    • @standardaussie
      @standardaussie 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Soft green wood

  • @zlinky1113
    @zlinky1113 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Such a great explanation at 10.06. Love your videos, explanations and humility. 👍😃😃😃

  • @silasbaird
    @silasbaird 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love watching these videos. I lived in Sequim from 2011 until about 10 months ago when I moved out to TN. Makes me home sick.

  • @gocoastgaurd721
    @gocoastgaurd721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The ported 660 is just such a hot saw 😂😂😂. Just when i was like, man that thing’s doing good, then outcomes the 660. Terrible comparison but great to see the difference 😂. Love the vid

  • @tommytwotone81
    @tommytwotone81 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Always better off being safe ( the hollow tree ) I was thinking about buying one of those blue saws myself so this was a great video for me thank you.

  • @wallywallydingbat
    @wallywallydingbat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Some fantastic shots of the shock-wave when driving wedges in this video. Awesome stuff guys!

  • @billgreene7456
    @billgreene7456 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really liked this vid!! It had pretty much everything if you like to cut with power saws and these guys really worked well together. Always wondered about the China saws… not too shabby!

  • @StihlChainsaws
    @StihlChainsaws 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I appreciate the fall that was takin to get that good angle down the log😁👍. 99% of viewers will never understand the forethought & effort it takes to put together an entertaining video. The excessive amount of preplanning & extra work that goes into just recording these videos is insain, and that's not including the crazy amount of time it takes to edit a video.
    Good stuff, but I'll stick to my orange & white saws.
    Use whatever it takes to get it done though....
    STAY SAFE

  • @bencote2219
    @bencote2219 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Your boy Paul Bunyan rocking the Stihl logo on his helmet like he’s in the NFL
    No wonder he hates on blue thunder

  • @2DE808
    @2DE808 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for showing this saw from China, I have always wondered how they really do. Great to see you young guys having fun felling trees, doesn't look like work at all. I have a saw collection of over 25 saws, with Husky, Poulan, Jonsered and Sthil. Mostly the bigger saws from the 90s. My go to saw is an old 044 with a big bore kit, I will definitely check out these blue saws. I am also checking out West Coast Saws, Thanks. Stay Safe!!

  • @caseyneeley7631
    @caseyneeley7631 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the reality. Enjoying the work even when things happen always makes the day go by better.

  • @andrewscott2866
    @andrewscott2866 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    That Mitch has mad skills! Great video Jacob, your editing just keeps getting better and better 👍 👍

  • @scottperine8027
    @scottperine8027 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Happy to help you out (💰) and I really love this channel,it covers all aspects of the tree removal process. Good luck to everyone that entered the raffle.

  • @FreeriderSurfer7
    @FreeriderSurfer7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Funny, I’ve been watching your videos for awhile now, and imagine my surprise when I see you doing this video with my brother!
    Keep up the good work!

  • @jakerubino3233
    @jakerubino3233 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, you really know how to “sizzle the deal” 😂 love it, always get a laugh watching your vids 👌🏻

  • @johnw3794
    @johnw3794 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just watching you two it's so informative. Really see some cool methods on falling. Like how you jab the blade in the back so it leaves a safety hold... then cut the back fully til it falls. One thing I didn't know is. Calling any chainsaw stock... never knew chainsaws can be beefed up so much and modded

    • @napaindian62
      @napaindian62 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s called a boring back cut.

  • @Whoppels
    @Whoppels 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I picked up a g660 about 2 years ago for home use. I've not had a single issue with it. Always starts, runs well, hasn't failed me at all. My buddy got one and had some fuel leaks he needed to fix right away.

  • @rerolley
    @rerolley 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I finally remembered where I saw some of this before, the live stream back in March. Great carvings from the old stumps.

  • @carlstanoyevic3070
    @carlstanoyevic3070 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve got a 92cc 28”bar it’s a beast cut lots of fire wood With it have a friend blew his up right away . Started it up set cold saw in big wood and ripped on it cold every time. Lasted about four hours, right at the exhaust wiped out cylinder wall.

  • @colvinwellborn
    @colvinwellborn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    The main thing that you get from the Farmertec/Holzfforma products is inconsistency, which is likely because they skimp on quality assurance as a way to drop the price point. So some people say they're great and some people say they're junk because that's what their individual unit was like. But because they're completely compatible clones, you can swap OEM or other aftermarket parts on to them, and some choice replacements with OEM can make all the difference. In particular, the aftermarket carbs are really hit-or-miss, so replacing it with an OEM can make a world of difference and the saw will still be a great deal.

    • @jessemauer5455
      @jessemauer5455 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which is exactly why NO ONE should send this company, or any other thieving intellectually deprived China company a dime. Stihl products are designed by some of the best engineers and designers in the world for the industry. These nasty chinese just re-label the product and use junk materials to build it. Intellectual theft and to buy this saw is to truly not care.

    • @terryrothgeb1684
      @terryrothgeb1684 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dude, this! I was just thinking this.. It sounds identical to a 460. I bet slapping on a new carb, coil and plug, tune it, put on heftier AV mounts and replace parts as they brake, this thing would literally just be a blue 460 basically..

    • @browngreen933
      @browngreen933 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm using 2 aftermarket chainsaw carbs right now. Both work great. But the next one???

    • @Dropsix
      @Dropsix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@terryrothgeb1684 Only thing is, all said and done could you have bought a name brand saw used for a similar price? I like the idea of this saw as a toy though!

    • @terryrothgeb1684
      @terryrothgeb1684 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dropsix i guess that's the gamble, ive heard a mixed bag of reviews. Its tempting to try lmfao

  • @Robnord1
    @Robnord1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks for the fun video, and for *not* being yet another gear snob who labels these blue saws trash without even owning one. 👍 I got the G388 (038 mag clone) a couple of months ago. Besides an easy repair to the kill switch it's been great.

    • @thechef33
      @thechef33 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed. Obviously for these guys it’s important to have top tier equipment but the average homeowner doesn’t need a $1,000 saw lol.

  • @deaniverson4671
    @deaniverson4671 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, watching this while sitting in line at the port townsend ferry. Have cut alot of wood with my original 460.

  • @timothywilliams2021
    @timothywilliams2021 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I built one of their 660 kit saws last year. Also upgraded to their big bore kit. Big box of parts with no instructions. And no labels on parts or hardware. Lot of fun and some frustration.
    Couple of issue's. Had to replace a few parts right off the bat before running. The carb was junk. No amount of tuning helped. Replaced with a stock 660 carb. Few other small parts got replaced.
    Run's strong. Seems reasonable reliable. Leaks a little gas and oil. I'm sure I'll blow it up or break something sooner or later. But stihl fun to build.

    • @alanmeyers3957
      @alanmeyers3957 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I see what you did there 👍

  • @dianncharlan5648
    @dianncharlan5648 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think it is so great that you get to travel and check out how other men like Mitch work. I am sure you learn something new everywhere you go. Great job!

  • @EcSsAwS
    @EcSsAwS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I've had a blue 372xp clone with a 52mm big bore kit for over 2 years now and well over 60gallon of fuel. No real issues. Pull cord broke (that happens on OEM too)
    Now I have 4 clone 372s and a real 372 as well
    People tend to hate these saws. But if you actually spend time with them. They ain't so bad
    I've had great success

    • @zachgordon9531
      @zachgordon9531 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have never used one, I know we don't make a saw in America dam shame. I just wish we didn't import from China so much, this is why I won't get one.

    • @onthelake9554
      @onthelake9554 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zachgordon9531 Smaller stihls are made in the USA . Have been for years.

    • @zachgordon9531
      @zachgordon9531 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@onthelake9554 I did not know that, thanks for the information 👍

    • @falfield
      @falfield 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zachgordon9531 I'm so glad to hear you say this - especially as all the others blurting "Yeah, I've got a blue one too...." demonstrate NO awareness at all of the issue.
      It's as if they haven't thought far enough ahead to see that the money they are paying goes straight to pay for Chinese hypersonic missile development and for more bribing of African countries to support China, and for more economic and military confidence for Xi. Yet all they can see is a cheap saw.

    • @BeatstormX
      @BeatstormX 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just buy originals

  • @toknowlj
    @toknowlj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really enjoyed your review in the Reel world of the PNW!
    It is nice to see there are some good people close by.

  • @korygrandy6133
    @korygrandy6133 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One of my fac vids so far lol. The t shirt is great. I feel more human knowing you also stumble off logs lol. My clone 660 has a little bit of a metal ring to it after break-in but it's still stump cuttin like the little engine that could

  • @stevensfirewood8658
    @stevensfirewood8658 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have a g444 (ms440 clone). I’ve probably cut 50+ cords of hardwoods and dropped some trees with it. I’ve had to replace the handle since it bent and the worm gear just broke (replaced with a Amazon no name). It almost keeps up with my ms462 with a 25” bar. And I don’t have to worry about a $1100+ saw bouncing around when I’m on my tractor.

    • @noclass2gun342
      @noclass2gun342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have the same saw. Rockin a 32" tsumara bar and stihl rs33 full house chain. I love it

  • @somemusic789
    @somemusic789 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome video, and I love how you take the time to explain everything you did and why.

  • @jondoe4667
    @jondoe4667 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I grew up in Michigan heating with wood stoves, so I've cut my share of wood. But I love how a professional can make felling trees seem so effortless. 💪🇺🇲

    • @nemideergoon1844
      @nemideergoon1844 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where abouts?

    • @jondoe4667
      @jondoe4667 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nemideergoon1844 Greenville, and cedar springs mostly.

  • @strydyrhellzrydyr1345
    @strydyrhellzrydyr1345 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man.. I'm sooo sorry for your loss... I'm gonna start watching this channel now... And forever

  • @Swerly1985
    @Swerly1985 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Unreal work men!.love this video. Bin dumping decent alders for five yrs now and never tried a plunge..I am super inexperienced and can’t wait to limit my barber chairs next year .

  • @Pharphette
    @Pharphette 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for another great hour of entertainment, Jake! Barkbox, isn’t that also a dog toy subscription box service? lol

  • @richardtutor8331
    @richardtutor8331 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have an old 066 stihl that still runs great . I wouldn't have any other kind . It works great for limbing , topping, bucking cutting down and just about anything you want to do.

  • @dan-dan-da-treeman
    @dan-dan-da-treeman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's been really cool being on your bus and going on this ride with ya'll. Thanks for the seat.

  • @CloudfeatherRusticWorks
    @CloudfeatherRusticWorks ปีที่แล้ว +16

    From what I've seen with these and the NeoTec, they seem like they'd be good for people who need bigger saws occasionally, but can't justify the $1000-1500 price point of a Stihl. Plus, I think they'd be a good option for a saw that you can upgrade with better parts here and there over time...

    • @jonnyg9330
      @jonnyg9330 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah but the thing is you’ll have the Stihl forever….I have my dads 066 and 660 magnum both still run well and I barely cut wood

    • @diavalus
      @diavalus ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jonnyg9330 I have a 036 from my father in law, small chainsaw but he used it to cut trees in the forest and get it ready to warm up the house. Nowadays, I use it for the same stuff. You pay once, but you use it for a long time. The chinese one I used to have didn’t last more than 5 years.

    • @MrMotor11
      @MrMotor11 ปีที่แล้ว

      This point is exactly why i just purchased a China 660. Hit with a tornado about 14 treee down in my yard i can cut up myself rather than pay someone else (especially since insurance wont pay for it). So after that the saw may sit for years. No point in going all-in for a Stihl for incidental usage

  • @joshuasoom7960
    @joshuasoom7960 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    i bought the 372xp clone 3 years ago and the 272 clone 2 years ago have ran the saws hard maintained them never had a single issue im gonna be buying more soon probably the mt200 clone to replace my actual mt200 i love the holzfforma saws and you can replace parts on them with oem sthil and husky parts also might get the same saw you have in this video keep up the good content!!!

  • @JohnWilliams-junglejohnny
    @JohnWilliams-junglejohnny 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Got me a 660 blue boy , also have 4 of the real ones . Blue boy in box till rainy day . Got my son the 372 blue boy . And he has had no problems with it . Always been a husky , jonsered guy . Loving the 2165. And 2172 ,great saws in my book . Finaly broke down got a 462cm . After 30 trees down with it . I’m thinking this is now my favorite saw . At 58 and 138 lbs .my 661 all day gets to my little hips and shoulder . The suspension in 462 is incredible . As for the blue boys ,put oem chain tensioner , better spikes . And if carb needs adjusting a lot . Buy the walbro or tillotson real carb for it and you should not have any issues . Can’t say it’s as good as stihl or husky , but price wise , with new carb and tensioner . For weekend guy it’s no brainer .its literally a third of the price from real. But it’s not quite a real one .

  • @DJWalsh-
    @DJWalsh- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First time seeing you, was a lucky click! You guys rock, I need to get back into some big cuts. Now a subscriber keep it up!

  • @hhlumberjacktx
    @hhlumberjacktx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    You can definitely tell Mitch has been behind a stump a few times. Great job guys!

    • @74KU
      @74KU ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can tell he wont be behind to many more if he keeps ignoring basic safety.

    • @daviddavidson4496
      @daviddavidson4496 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@74KU real ones log bare chested in flip flops

    • @74KU
      @74KU 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@daviddavidson4496 Indeed

  • @brianquigley7336
    @brianquigley7336 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Looks like the Chiner saw did ok. I have an 046 Stihl that I've been running for 27 years. Starter ropes and clutches are the only thing it's ever needed, besides routine maintenance. It has thousands of hours on it. Still runs great and has 135 lbs of compression. I'll run it till she blows. Might buy a Chiner saw.

    • @scotthackett4500
      @scotthackett4500 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have an 1970's 045 that I inherited from my father .she still is a Runner too

    • @eddieb4227
      @eddieb4227 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You out of Forks?

    • @brianquigley7336
      @brianquigley7336 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eddieb4227 Ha ! I'm in North Bend, but I went to school in Forks. Lived there till I was19 n moved to North Bend. Good guess. Forks, WA, logging Capitol of the world!

    • @eddieb4227
      @eddieb4227 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brianquigley7336 I thought so. When did you leave?
      I know the Quigley from there.

    • @eddieb4227
      @eddieb4227 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brianquigley7336 once a spartan, always a spartan!

  • @badopsec
    @badopsec 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    enjoying these saw reviews keep up the good work brother!!!

  • @ThatOldStoner
    @ThatOldStoner ปีที่แล้ว

    The footage of the movement of top of the tree is what I like to see. I first saw it on Buckin' Billy Ray and I've been hooked.

  • @sfkeygrip
    @sfkeygrip ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I feel like this is the saw you keep in your truck box of your pick up if you live in a rural area but go into town a lot. Or on your tractor/atv. Its good enough and big enough to do some unexpected work or clear a fallen tree off the road but cheap enough where if stolen or damaged you don't lose too much sleep over it.

    • @markeverson5849
      @markeverson5849 ปีที่แล้ว

      It would be a great saw for cutting the arms and legs off of a thief people have to stop putting up with burglary and thievery and whoop the hell out of them sick and tired of a corrupt court system that makes money off the criminal and the victim gets nothing back how about you stop condoning corruption

    • @mtbasshead
      @mtbasshead ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Its the exact saw that you can buy from a pawn shop for 350 thats 20 years old but might have 1000 cords on it. Remember theyre comparing a NEW stihl to one designed in the 90s. If thats all you want a 150$ Poland is plenty.

    • @kiradelong9698
      @kiradelong9698 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mtbassheadyou show me any pawn shop of listing for 70+cc saw with big bar that sell for under $350

    • @kiradelong9698
      @kiradelong9698 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mtbassheadyou show me any pawn shop of listing for 70+cc saw with big bar that sell for under $350

  • @thechef33
    @thechef33 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Even though it wasn’t stock I was honestly surprised how well that saw held up, especially after attaching the 32” bar. A good chain on a shitty saw goes a long way.

    • @aaronm.3581
      @aaronm.3581 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      It's not a shitty saw though.

    • @eriksforestryvision8751
      @eriksforestryvision8751 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aaronm.3581 They're a little shity... Design is mainly what makes them worth a damn;)

    • @jimnaz5267
      @jimnaz5267 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      EVERY DOLLAR YOU SPEND ON A CHINESE PRODUCT, BUYS ANOTHER CHINESE BULLET TO KILL AMERICANS WAKE UP.

    • @pallmall5495
      @pallmall5495 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@eriksforestryvision8751 I agree.Nobody would buy a Poulan Wild Thing clone made by a fairly new company in China.Numbers like 660 and 372 xp are the selling point.Along with price of course.

    • @jimmylarge1148
      @jimmylarge1148 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@eriksforestryvision8751 seems to me it starts, cuts trees down and then turns off just like the Stihl would.

  • @Husqvarna575XP
    @Husqvarna575XP 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    First US logger i see on TH-cam who is cutting like a professional. Good work buddy!

  • @aubreyferris6546
    @aubreyferris6546 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I’ve said it before but I would really love a review on the 592 as well! I prefer your reviews because the saw actually gets used and worked instead of cutting a few cookies.
    Thanks for another great video - they keep getting better and better 😀

  • @JasonBritt
    @JasonBritt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think you're finding your groove again! Enjoying seeing all the different people and areas you're visiting. I like gear reviews like this where you just use it and can compare to the name brand or pro version.

    • @jimnaz5267
      @jimnaz5267 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      EVERY DOLLAR YOU SPEND ON A CHINESE PRODUCT, BUYS ANOTHER CHINESE BULLET TO KILL US... WAKE UP.

  • @FILIPFROMSALMO
    @FILIPFROMSALMO 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really nice; great content, enthused personalities, good editing, nice job

  • @johnscustomsaws
    @johnscustomsaws 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loved this vudeo!!! Mitch is an animal and Ryan is top notch 👌 next time have Ryan port the next "Blue Thunder" to see what she's got 💯

  • @tungus951
    @tungus951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I gotta say for a 76cc compared to a ported 96 it carried that aggressive chain without bogging much, just wanna see long-term use and overall life expectancy of a knock off

    • @blayden_1n44
      @blayden_1n44 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We’ve had ours for about a year and a half and it’s been put through hell and still going strong, we like it better than our stihl saws

    • @derrickjohnson9692
      @derrickjohnson9692 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blayden_1n44 do use it daily? For hard use like rpms maxed for 6 to 8+ hours? Just wondering if I should grab one for a cheap back up but if it can't keep up in the woods logging its not worth it so I'm lookin for opinions

  • @frankensteinracing3520
    @frankensteinracing3520 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The little bottle they come with is a mixing bottle. They work really well if you only need a bit of fuel or need to mix a richer or leaner mix for something specific. Edit as a stihl technician. I’ve seen brand new 462 500 and 390 blown up after a few hours.

  • @garbizzi6868
    @garbizzi6868 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The name u gave your 200t , the limb reaper is awesome ! I had four of those original 200t's and they will alwayz be my favorite saw , and also i really am impressed with the 660 holzfforma i got a chance to cut with one yesterday

  • @kevinhoffman8214
    @kevinhoffman8214 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice job , hindsight is always crystal clear

  • @wodenswheelgun3278
    @wodenswheelgun3278 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This comment is not relevant to the saw, but I wanted to say last year my m390 blew up and I replaced it with a m462-cm and immediately put WCS dogs and barkbox on it. After cutting with for a season I'm a customer for life. Gordy makes excellent products that actually perform as intended and described.

    • @GuiltyofTreeson
      @GuiltyofTreeson  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah he is a man of integrity for sure I love his products, he’s a friend of mine

    • @Bixby-and-Buckshot
      @Bixby-and-Buckshot 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GuiltyofTreeson I just wish he’d make stuff for Husky’s!

  • @scotthuydic9137
    @scotthuydic9137 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey Jacob I love your channel, keep up the good work man! Nice to see someone put videos up of saw actually being used for more than just making biscuits

    • @jimnaz5267
      @jimnaz5267 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      EVERY DOLLAR YOU SPEND ON A CHINESE PRODUCT, BUYS ANOTHER CHINESE BULLET TO KILL US... WAKE UP.

  • @davidpalmer3015
    @davidpalmer3015 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a lot of fun to watch. Thanks 👍🏻

  • @ppipowerclass
    @ppipowerclass ปีที่แล้ว

    All of the videos I have watched about these saws, looks like a few upgrades, and they're pretty good.

  • @baileyneumann7986
    @baileyneumann7986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The only thing to replace on them is the decompression valve they arent as well made as the stihl ones and if they fall apart they put a beating on the piston

  • @aaronvaneps7110
    @aaronvaneps7110 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I gotta be honest, you really do need to do a review of the Husqvarna 592. I'm looking to buy one, and I'd really rather you do the leg work to see if its worth it. :-) I trust you more than anyone else around these parts.

  • @ShaneHerrick
    @ShaneHerrick ปีที่แล้ว

    460 was my go-to for years. Great saws.

  • @Eric-gi9kg
    @Eric-gi9kg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    THEE BEST SOUND (other than a tuned saw)..the creeeek as the tree falls

  • @codycrabtree3684
    @codycrabtree3684 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I would of loved an update on this saw after a few weeks of use

    • @chompers11
      @chompers11 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea same anything?

  • @n.p.winters
    @n.p.winters 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks for the video. I purchased an 090 clone years ago when I started to slab but low on funds and found that they perform very poorly after a while of cutting. Could get through a few slab but was a fight to continue once it was hot. If you got to get cutting, go for it but take some time and save for a real saw.

  • @austinwick2941
    @austinwick2941 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the video need more saw reviews and raffles. I was a day behind and missed my chance to enter. Keep up the good work

  • @rwc2504
    @rwc2504 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    41:51 perfect thumbnail for this video! Nice work

  • @michelle778
    @michelle778 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would buy one in an instant, but with shipping, customs and taxes the blue 660 is about $200 cheaper than the 661. No (useable) warranty, no service - not worth it imo. But if you have a retailer that saves you the customs and shipping and the 661 is not as cheap as around here...

  • @michaelwhiteoldtimer7648
    @michaelwhiteoldtimer7648 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Those clone saws have come a long way in the last few years, for the firewood guy the cost is pretty good

    • @robertrichter6936
      @robertrichter6936 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe you should move to China if you love their equipment that much & take Biden with you so you can further their economy or destroy it.

  • @oliverallen5324
    @oliverallen5324 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was just in Bellingham not that long ago. Good to see you boys out & about. Greetings from the Carolinas.

  • @AP2020_Outdoors
    @AP2020_Outdoors 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @Guilty of Treeson. Great video Jake. Daymn....that Cedar was GONE!! into the ravine = crazy hinge wood on that one! That was a cool face cut Mitch did = plunge face ✂️, never saw that before. We need to start a gofundme to get Mitch a Warne fiberglass step 🪜 💯🇺🇸😅

  • @tomaschmelik8838
    @tomaschmelik8838 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nice video, enjoy this kind of videos, not that the "usual job" ones were bad or anything. I have a real qustion, is there even a quality american chainsaw brand? Since Stihl is german, Husqvarna is swedish and Echo is japanese i can´t think of any. (I live in Europe where "made in germany" means a bit more than "made in the USA" tbh)

    • @alanmeyers3957
      @alanmeyers3957 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Unfortunately not anymore, Mcculloch was American and at the time was amongst the best but they’re long gone.