Let me save you 13 minutes. Do you enjoy a better fleshed out story with enviormental story telling, Fallout 3. Do you enjoy a better more diversity and branching paths in your story, New Vegas. There you go.
New Vegas gets my vote. More diversity, Far better factions, path isn't as forced as 3. Weapon customises. 3 was great but lacked in freedom. (sick of the metro) DC was a maze of corridors.
I Work for a Living you MORON no oh i saw you on a video supporting 3 and you saying 3 was good so XD and wtf kind of name is bugthestard you act like its insulting I like black isle obsidian and bethesda fallouts they each have their charms so whats the problem an opinion oooooh noooooo and again bethestard us a feckin dumb insult its like saying blackisliot
Dr. Cimmerian that dudes arguments for fallout 3 are so flimsy and arguable like does he have a brain he tried to argue narrative was better in 3 sorry but if you actually believe that you must be shit in English class and easy to impress they have some of the worst writing in fallout other than 4
fireballs yeah I forgot how good those copy and paste metro tunnels were or the brown and grey landscape where you can barely make out anything was amazing
fireballs lol no there are more locations in new Vegas have you found them? and way more quests too, along with outcomes for the end, I love fallout 3 don't get me wrong but being able to anywhere in the map at the start shouldn't be good there should be parts you can't go to unless you're a higher level and you can go on the other side of the river on your own and find a shit ton of deathclaws along with some nice power armor sets and yes the left side of the map on the southern end is not explorable but the dlc makes up for that big time with being able to open two new areas in lonesome road and I think it's fair to include dlc since fallout 3 needs it to even stand a chance with that abysmal ending but we can all agree 4 failed horribly in that regard at least 3 had actual dialogue although cheesy sometimes but I do recognise without 3 there wouldn't be new Vegas and I appreciate it for that and still play it to this day along with new Vegas currently playing both lol
Hunam, no you're shit and New Vegas world is better than FO3 as the world hundreds years after nuke war and humanity is reviving instead a dead and boring ruin city with endless metro, despite the metro of FO3 is far behind the Metro franchise.
Especially because good roleplaying games are designed to be played in multiple playthroughs, as believable characters wouldn't do everything that the game has to offer.
@kie I agree with what you are saying, but I would not conflate Fallout 4 with Skyrim, at least Skyrim has a proper dialogue tree. But yes, I agree, RPGs are moving further and further away from their DND roots, which has resulted in casualizing.
@Jona Sure, if you're comparing Skyrim to FNV, there is no comparison. FNV often has 30 lines of dialogue per character, but that doesn't mean that Skyrim's dialogue is bad.
replaybility is a strong point of fallout, but it was never requierement of a good rpg. You hardly hear anyone replaying ultima, final fantasy, skyrim, mass effect 2, and witcher 3. If the game is really immersive, you will feel so attached to the mc you dont want him to live different path. New vegas biggest weak point is that you dont really feel attached to the character emotionally. Did you have any emotional moment in new vegas at all?
Fallout 3 had 1 story. Fallout New Vegas had as many as you want, especially with the yes man playthrough. You could side with anyone, even the raiders could be made allies with. The better skill tree allowed for the player to play the game over and over again and have the ability to find different things. I absolutely love fallout new vegas for everything it did
I actually dont like starting nv after 4 times i knew what was going to happen everywhere i went with fallout 3s random encounters new stuff happened each time i played dont get me wrong though there both great games i have no side
Emperorwolffang The funny thing is that Fallout New Vegas wasn't even completed as Bethesda forced the game to come out sooner then it would be to finished. Yet it's still better then Fallout 3 in every single way
Patrick yeah dude, because BoS is not a faction of fucking power rangers trying to save the world with the help of a giant robot and a huge army. It's a technocratic faction seeking for technologies of the old world, and it's trying to keep it safe from people in the wasteland. That's why they live in bunkers, have around like 30 members in it and are undercover most of the time. New Vegas's Brotherhood is the closest to what it should be in Fallout.
I liked the world of Fallout 3 more, it really gives you that feeling like you've been in a vault and have no idea of what's to come. Also, the claustrophobic feeling from 3 makes everything seem more personal, forcing you to deal with issues head on (in Vegas I could kill most enemies before they were even aware of me). However, New Vegas had a far better perk system that had made me come back to the game over and over again. I also love Boone and Ed-E, which just makes you a 3 person army (the enhanced perception and highlighted enemies makes you the ultimate sniper). Fallout 3 makes you feel like a survivor and New Vegas makes you feel like a badass.
@@_CrimsonBladethe problem isn’t being able to defuse it right after leaving the vault. You can explain that away as your character being incredibly lucky, or being very skilled in explosives after years of studying and practicing while in the vaults. However, the issue is it’s a 30 explosives skill check, which is the equivalent to a complete novice who barely has any understanding on explosives handling. And you can’t explain it away as luck either because the prompt literally tells you it needs someone highly skilled in handling explosives. It’s like they originally meant it to be a much harder skill check but some dev made a last minute change so that everyone could experience it early on.
So I played fallout 3 for the first time this February, this was my first fallout game. It's fair to say that I absolutely loved it. I genuinely felt I'm in post nuclear apocalyptic world because of it's ominous soundtrack and grim world. It really was a surreal gaming experience for me. Just like all games that you love from the get go, I was immersed in it for full 2 weeks. After finishing the game, I intended to download and play NV but didn't have any expectations for it to match the fallout experience. I've been playing NV for the past 2 days and it's already clear how it's different and better than fallout 3.
Agreed. Fallout 3 had a fitting theme but game system was more diverse in fallout NV. I love getting immersed in games and Fallout NV I just couldn't sense a feel of Fallout theme also.
I just started playing TTW last night. I haven't played Fallout 3 in like 8 years and I only played it once. It took a bit of time to get it set up with mods but my god is it awesome lol. Much better than Fallout 4.
New Vegas has Factions better choices in game the faction reputation system and it had such a good tone to gameplay and dialogue New Vegas is the best fallout game
@@Patrick-wj3qi Now this sounds like nitpicking! If you are going to talk down the reputation system just because of what you said, might as well talk down the entire video game logic - which states not to take itself way too seriously! Sometimes you just want to enjoy your game, which was created for the mere purpose of entertainment, instead of specifically looking for "flaws" in the system, which you know can't ever be perfect...you are the same kind of person, that would blame Mortal Kombat franchise for bringing back characters, that are dying from being executed by other characters fatalities, because of how "unrealistic" it is...
@Big daddy Kane B That isn't a "minus in the game", that is the NATURAL flaw that every game can have varrying on circumstances! Maybe its you, who are asking from video game way too fucking much?! Expecting it to feel like some kind of real life alternative, where every single step makes fucking sense?!...
Only thing I like about fallout 3 better then NV IMO is the map, I just dig the capital city with rural areas, nailed the map . New Vegas map I love too, fallout 4’s map isn’t as good as neither, it’s an meh map, feeling very plain .
*Fallout 3* will always have a warm place in my heart, as it was my introduction to the franchise and because of the amazing atmosphere. *Fallout New Vegas* is the grownup brother of Fallout 3, as it has so much more depth. Amazing game. *Fallout 4* , is meh. Way too linear for a Fallout of my taste.
Yeah me too, fallout 3 was my introduction and it gave me so many nostalgia that apocalypse dark wasteland feeling it gave you, some of the problems i had was it was hard to play with bad karma i felt the game wanted me to play with good karma. New vegas mostly fixed some gameplay stuff i wanted like being able to aim down sights better weapons customisation better quests, the atmosphere in new vegas felt more free kinda encouraged you to explore more for me. Also stuff you did mattered in new vegas, in fallout 3 you literally blowed up an entire town with an atomic bomb and the only one who mentioned it was your father once. Im not saying this is what it is and since im not really experienced in both games i might have inaccurate points, correct me if im wrong
New Vegas... And as for the debate, the Fo3 guy lost me when he said that he likes an openworld where you can do everything in one playthrough. That kills replay ability and roleplaying.What you gonna be? The worlds greatest diplomat? No thanks lol.. Part of the beauty of NV is that you cant have everyone liking you, but you can have everyone hate you or feel indifferent at best. I love starting a new game in NV and having the ability to "roleplay" who youre gonna be on this playthrough.The side quests in NV is what makes the world feel real and lived in. Theirs alot of factions,subfactions and communities and each have there own philosophy on life. And by helping many of them out too much will automatically make another faction dislike you. NV just seems more open world imo. And as soon as you finish character creation in NV you can just take off and explore the wastes in any way you want. Obsidian FTW!!!
Yea, the fallout 3 guy lost because he said fallout 3 is good, when it’s not, and he even says that it’s a good game when it’s horrible and he doesn’t even say that new Vegas is the best game of the millennium. New Vargas FTW!!!!1!1!!!1!!!!
i mean he could of pointed out the raider in 3 are more dangerous then nv ever was and it true the raider in 3 have traps NV only had raider with gun or dynamite and was easy to kill but yea NV wins
The expansive dialogue options, choices, and unique philosophies within the factions and subfactions make NV so much better. It feels like such a complete roleplaying game knowing that you can side with Caesar and understand his motives or you can just shoot him in the head without question. 3 just felt lacking
3 had a more dense map with better interior areas and the massive tunnel system that was nowhere to be seen in New Vegas makes it feel like you're getting more for your money. The Washington Monument, the massive barge tanker, the massive museum, the large junk city place, it had better places to explore.
Those philosophies of the sub factions gets old after one playthrough. you say it brings a more complete roleplay experience but fo3 has the same with ten penny tower underworld bos oasis(which everyone forget oasis buts ripe with philosophy and it answers current questions we have about fo76 with the dweller creater
Blazing Caveman why are you sorry? That’s the majority opinion. It’s people who like fo3 more than new Vegas who apologize for having a different opinion
To me fallout 3 was my first, so there’s a special attachment and love to death. But fallout new Vegas showed me a a great story and more weapon options.
People forget FO3 came out in 2008. Survival/exploration fps shooter games didn't exist. No one played fo3 for the story. People would rush to the 2nd to last main story mission right away so they could enjoy exploring and the side quests without worrying about the main mission and the story ending. Pre 2011 people would be on their 20th playthrough.
Reptilian Lizard MATN explicitly disproves that ghoul. H-bomber guy goes on a tirade about how fallout 3 offers no player choice and then goes on to literally cry when he first plays fallout new Vegas when in reality new Vegas has the same stupid choice 3 has I.e either kill general Autumn or speech check him, in Vegas either kill legate lanuis or convince the beast of the east that many of his troops will die to hold the dam (you know the guy who is known for killing his own troops to instill discipline.) And if you don't fight lanuis than you have sided with the legion because siding with a bunch of sexist, slaving, raping raiders is better than blowing up a town just cause. The game gives you literally no reason to side with Caesar's legion other than oh the NCR tax too much. If you have some legit example of h-bomber guy even addressing any of matn's criticism than please, in the off chance you aren't bullshiting please given an example because for the rest of us non autist it isn't obvious.
Earth O' Pedia He's got a point though. There's really no need to get so hostile. If him clearly explaining something to you won't justify his argument, then what will?
@@theawokenwarrior8436 well there is a lot of different outcomes. in mine he wasn't really bad necessarily he wanted to side with me in my 1st playthrough due to my speech and barter being maxed out really early in the game. Edit: long story short mr house ends up winning either way.
Humam242 feel like New Vegas did all of that better than 3 did. I love both and I even play 4 still. But New Vegas is my favorite all around except for mechanics and especially gun play. Those mechanics were better in Fallout 4.
I like them both but the setting in which Fallout 3 takes place feels more creepy and dark. I can't believe how much people look down on 3 to be honest.
@@d1sk-cord531im a new vegas fanboy but i still play both games. fallout 3 and new vegas are both games but when it comes down to rpg mechanics new vegas wins. and im typing this as im playing fallout 3 lol
In my opinion, New Vegas had too many factions. Too me a Fallout game should be an experience based around the player's character and not around the factions that they choose. The factions were a bit smothering to say the least.
@@1deviousmama333 For me fallout 3 had so little factions, like I wanted to get to learn about the enclave ad hopefully get to side with them but nope I gotta side with the brotherhood and get a selection of 2 endings (3 if you got the dlc and fawkes) which sums up to be a good guy and die or let another person go in and die
@@1deviousmama333 at least they give you options. Fo3 was just like "" do you want to side with the Brotherhood, or do you want to do this thing for the Enclave while siding with the Brotherhood? ""
I think the best argument he raised was the one about the “frozen in time” look of Fallout 3. They absolutely *nailed* the apocalyptic feel of that game, and not enough credit can be given for that feat. It gives you this unique feeling that you’re alone in this vast, empty wasteland. Certainly the one thing FO3 has over NV. And Liam Neeson.
i'd respectfully disagree, i think New Vegas better understands the base setting of fallout 1-2-tactics within regards to its setting and it kinda shows a fundamental misunderstanding that Bethesda has with fallout as a whole. fallout isn't a series about the post apocalypse, its a series about the post-post apocalypse. in new vegas we see people building new things and embarking on the messy adventure of doing society and all its trappings. tl;dr fallout is about living in a society
@@Hoi4ofgender I think a great way to sum up the difference between FO1, FO2 & NV vs FO3 & FO4, would be that the former wants to focus on what is, and the latter has an attachment to & wants to focus on what was. There's an emphasis placed on the new world with the former and the aspect of moving forward and building something new. The remnants of the past exist, but do not dictate the course of history mankind takes post-war. Bethesda really leaned into the retro-futurism aspect with FO3 and FO4 with the whole 50's Americana deal, which is a little odd when you consider what weapons existed in FO1 - 02 - Tactics, along with clothing / armour. We went from a mix of 50 - 80s retro-futurism, to pure 50's Americana.
There are things F3 did better and other things NV did better. I liked that the F3 story was a bit more serious and less quirky/whacky. The world there was more intimidating, and I liked the fact that the character was better defined. What New Vegas did better was the dialogue and interaction with NPCs, and providing more choices to the player and having these choices be more impactful.
What really was great about the original Fallout, Fallout 1 and Fallout 2, was the feeling of being in this world. And that was attractive. Well, attractive is maybe the wrong word. It was compelling. (laughs) That's a better word. I think what Bethesda did an incredible job at is making you feel like you are in this Fallout world. And that's what we did back at Black Isle, to make you really feel like you were in this Fallout world. The whole thing -- from the loading screens to the main menu to the Pip-Boy to all that kind of stuff -- it really felt like it was a whole cohesive unit of feeling like you're in this world. And they did that.
Fallout 3: I spawn in the middle of the map and can go anywhere. Fallout New Vegas: 1: If I go West there are Cazadores and certain death 2: If I go North there are Death Claws and certain death 3: Guess I’ll just go to Nipton like the game wants me to. That’s the one thing I hate about New Vegas. I’ll admit it improved on a lot but it lacked in freedom.
This is how it works in RPGs. Enemies have a fixed level from above, not like in 3 where the enemies have the same level as the player. Whether it's level 1 or level 30 New Vegas has a problem with impassable mountains, but 3 has subway lines that are much longer to overcome than such mountains.
@@abarrerasantos197 So I mean objectively Fallout 3 has way more choice then Fallout 4 dose. Honestly though the gun play doesn't ruin the game by any means.
NV is objectively better. They both have the same shitty gunplay, so the story and RPG elements are all that is left. If you have played both, you will know that the writing and storytelling in NV is leaps and bounds ahead of 3. Not to say 3 didn't have its moments, but yeah.
Obsidian Entertainment seriously upstaged and out did Bethesda with New Vegas.. I loved 3's game play.. But the weapons mods, story, side quest etc in New Vegas all Had me hooked.. Then fallout 4 was kind of a bust personally.. Not a bad game just a bad fallout.. So have Obsidian make another Fallout game..
Luka Godec And fallout games arn't supposed to be about combat, they're supposed to be about in depth desisions, a great story with no corny plot twists (Unlike FO4), and really make you think about what you do, not be a First Person shooter. The only time I ever felt conflicted in FO4 was deciding if I should let pickman live or not.
Was the guy on fallout 3's side even trying? Didnt even mention how NV corners u and forces you to follow the roads till vegas aside from doing glitchy mountian climbing. Jesusss
It’s weird, I feel if you asked people five years ago which one was better, way more people would’ve answered Fallout 3, but now way more people would say New Vegas.
I gotta agree with you. Early on Fallout 3 was way more loved than New Vegas because of NV's rocky launch and the sheer IMPACT that Fallout 3 had on the gaming industry at the time. But as time passed, patches and DLC came out, and people took notice of all the merits that New Vegas actually has, love has really shifted over to NV instead of 3. Personally, I do like New Vegas more than 3, so I'm glad to see the shift, but you are right that this wasn't always the case.
Imagine all the people in an alternate universe playing the full version of new vegas we never got to see and how much more amazing it must be for them
If you play as a woman in new Vegas and go to the arena guy in the fort, he says" what do you want from me woman? I'm in charge of the arena, not the cooking pots." Things like that hidden in new Vegas make me laugh so hard
For me Fallout 3 GOTY edition. One of my all time favorite games. I felt connected with the hero and the whole scenario of the game was perfect. I loved how dark the game was and the DLC's were perfect. Don't get me wrong . New Vegas had a lot of improvements over Fallout 3 but the search for his father, the whole journey and that ending will be forever in my heart.
The fact that New Vegas got the popularity it has in spite of 3 getting all the marketing and media attention speaks for itself. Without special treatment, 3 would've been forgotten immediately, but New Vegas has overcome all odds to become a cultural phenomenon.
I mean it's almost universal at this point that New Vegas is seen as the better game. I do agree on the points that fallout 3 had but overall these things do not compare to NV, imho.
Fallout 3 is unmatched to this day. You can’t beat the capital wasteland of DC. 3 set the bar, every other game is trying to replicate it. New Vegas is the second best.
Another argument for new Vegas is the introduction of the faction system. You could actually keep track of your reputation with all of the factions in the game.
For me the best thing about a Fallout game is the world exploration and the atmosphere surrounding it. And for that Fallout 3 is waaaaay better. Like what's worst setting to set a post apocalyptic game? The FUCKING DESERT where everything is ALREADY dead, lifeless, harsh etc...
I'm sure it depends on what you played first. I played new vegas first and it is my favorite in the series. However, fallout 3 captures a different tone equally as effective.
New Vegas, but I enjoyed Fallout 3 more for some reason. Something about the atmosphere, music, and world building really gravitated me toward that music
Fallout 3 is amazing, I honestly tried getting into New Vegas so many times and I just can't, but with 3 I get lost in its immersion, what an amazing game
New Vegas had villains that were a threat to the Mojave, but Fallout 3's version of The Enclave and their plans were a threat to anything that didn't have a pure, unmarred human genome. Basically a threat to just about everyone in the Fallout world. In 3, The Brotherhood Of Steel got to be true heroes for once instead of just being techno hoarders, you had the option of nuking Megaton city, got to deal with a "super hero" and "ant villainess," deal with a massive super mutant behemoth and actually give mankind a fighting chance to survive with Project Purity. The ambience also immersed you into the desperation and struggle of the Fallout world. 3's events, in my opinion, had a greater influence in Fallout in general. New Vegas had The New California Republic, The BOS, and Caesar's Legion, and while I liked the The NCR and to a point the more vanilla BOS, Caesar's Legion just wasn't a long term threat. Caesar was dying after all, and without his vision and guidance, the Legion was destined to fall apart. As far as as weapons, New Vegas definitely had more, and had better gameplay, but then again, Bethesda had to put things together from scratch and Obsidian Entertainment already had Fallout 3 as a point of reference to innovate-so I feel it's kind of unfair to just automatically say that Vegas is superior to 3. I prefer 3 in any case, while I've noticed that the majority of comments sections have preference towards New Vegas, I'll stand by 3.
In this debate, New Vegas definitely won, but if you want to see a really good defense of Fallout 3, watch ManyATrueNerd's "Fallout 3 is better than you think". I'm not sure which one I personally prefer - I love both. I really appreciate Fallout 3's atmosphere, which it nails perfectly, and I'm sure I don't have to explain why I love New Vegas.
@@BlackLegion12621 Gameplay consistency is better. That and performance consistency. I had much fewer FPS drops in FO3 and the game handled better overall in terms of system performance. Plus, I have never had FO3 crash on me. I think the optimization is infinitely better than NV.
@@Gamerguy826 I've heard that optimization on PC for New Vegas was a nightmare. I play on 360, and never had a crash for the game (plenty of glitches). As for gameplay consistency, I found Fallout New Vegas' combat to be less annoying thanks to the inclusion of iron sights and tweaks to the enemy AI. In Fallout 3, human enemies with guns had a tendency to strafe quickly, making it difficult to land hits without relying on VATS. I did find the world better for rewarding exploration in FO3, but more difficult to get invested in due to the shallowness of the characters and dialogue.
You know what, fair enough. Honestly though, what will save 76?. Honest question. I'm thinking of it as: "Fallout's weakest aspect was always the shooting and it's strongest was immersing the player (Not players) in it's world whilst giving them moral dilemmas, real role-playing, interesting NPC's and a compelling story. They built Fallout 76 around the weakest part of the franchise." I hope I'll end up liking it, but what will I end up liking? I hated the Division, Destiny, Borderlands, GR: Wildlands and Rust. Which is what 76 is a mix of.
I'm not really bothered about npcs. Godd said that there is still a story line with a bunch of quests so i'm happy about that. Also i really want to be a nice player and have a little shack to trade with other players. VATS is still in the game which helps people who can't aim a lot. I always wanted a fallout that's online. If it ain't good, at least i got the collectors edition and have cool stuff. The way 76 is looking. It's a game that depends on the players. We also get free content after launch so that's good.
See I like playing with my friends but not running around an open world shooting bullet sponges. The story I can almost guarantee will be even worse than 4's since there are no NPC's. V.A.T.S is different it only helps you aim and doesn't slow down time. I suppose it does depend on the players but even if I meet some really nice players, all we'll end up doing is visiting a few locations, killing a few enemies, looting, rinse and repeat.
It saddens me because Fallout's universe is so rich and full of potential and BGS aren't using it to it's fullest. It's my favorite universe in a gaming and they turned it into a looter shooter to play with your friends. People adore BGS and I honestly don't know why, no they're not bad but... why so loved? Like I understand CD Projekt Red and Naughty Dog, but BGS. Why? I think its because they make fun games, just not good stories. Story is everything to me.
I wish fallout 3 had a hardcore mode that would make it so much cooler and make you feel more immersed into the world and think about how wastelanders felt needing to use alot more rad away due to all of the radioactive water
Come on really, the first game to the introduce first person element and the vats was good. I will never know why can some one tell me why people hate it... please?
Correct order, hands down. Fallout 4 doesn't insult your intelligence to the degree that Fallout 3 does, but it still ranks below the Black Isle/Oblivion games.
I feel like Fallout New Vegas is a better sequel to Fallout 2 than Fallout 3 was. But if it weren't for Fallout 3 revitalizing the franchise, we would never have gotten Fallout New Vegas.
Fallout 3 is my absolute favorite, but both are amazing games! Let's not let disagreements overshadow the brilliance of both studios and the worlds they have created :) That said, regardless of which you prefer, for anyone who hasn't seen 'Fallout 3 is Better Than You Think', I highly recommend it--talks about a lot of the things referenced in this video and I just found it really compelling as it talks about aspects of game design put into both games that I hadn't considered previously
Fallout 3 and 4 aren't really a Fallout game. Just some action open world games with role playing elements. The real Fallouts are Fallout 1, Fallout 2 and the real Fallout 3 - New Vegas.
I love both of them, but New Vegas had a few more features that I thought made the game better. Fallout 3 is still a great game and still holds a special place in my heart.
How it was better game??? Lol, they are basically the same in terms of gameplay, and NV has much better fractions, characters, more interesting World, better quests and overall much better writing and story.
@Pumpkincore if you played FO and FO2 New Vegas resembles them more : Humor, and overall feel of apocalipse, Original Fallout and Fallout 2 were not that Dark as FO3, and they didn't have any metros, but What i remember from them is huge amount of humor-lot's of reference to pop culture especialy Monthy Python and holy grail, and Fallout was never about Dark setting-sure Apocalipse is terrible place, but Mojave Wasteland resembles the Worlds of classics perfectly. And i had opposite-i always used VATS, almost never used normal shooting, because controls on Xbox one X in FO New Vegas are kinda bad. New Vegas combines satyrical humor, with grim setting of apocalipse-Just like oryginals Did. Also the monsters are closer to behave and look to Fallout 1 and Fallout 2 than FO3 creatures.
This is really a pointless comparasion. Fallout New Vegas is the true fallout game, it had the storyline, the atmosphere, greater quest line, good combat, memorable locations and characters. Fallout 3 is nowhere near it. This IP does not deserved to be under Bethesda. At least they did gave Obsidian a chance to make true a Fallout game, but its sad to see that it won't be happening anymore in the future. We will get quick money grabber game like Fallout 76 or anything from Bethesda but not a true Fallout game.
You know insulting people who like bethesda wont change bethesda owning fallout provide information in a respectable way and maybe bethesda will let obsidian make a new fallout game i have no side though i like them all equally (except tactics its a bad game) 1 and 2 were great 3 was good nv was good and 4 was ok .thanks for listening to my opinion
Blows my mind how they remember all of these locations and the people. I can play hundreds of hours of a game that i actually enjoy and i cant remember that lol
Quests? Homeboy was given homework and forced to side on fallout 3. Yes a couple decent quests but almost all of them are a 2 dimensional story. New Vegas blows it out of the water objectively in that catagory.
I like FO3 the best. The world and the atmosphere edges it for me. There's some things i like better about New Vegas though like how you can wear different factions outfits and they wouldnt shoot you on site. Also gun mods. Both are better than FO4 and no doubt will be better than FO76.
Who do you think won? Make sure you vote!
This is the most pointless and unnecessary video ever. Everyone knows which is better
You can play as anythin'..... Nice argument there.
Let me save you 13 minutes. Do you enjoy a better fleshed out story with enviormental story telling, Fallout 3. Do you enjoy a better more diversity and branching paths in your story, New Vegas. There you go.
New Vegas gets my vote.
More diversity, Far better factions, path isn't as forced as 3. Weapon customises.
3 was great but lacked in freedom. (sick of the metro) DC was a maze of corridors.
New Vegas
The game was rigged from the start.
Marco Martinez ahhh I get it
Because one game is horrible 😂
samson aagaard It's very ignorant to say either of them are horrible. They are both masterpieces.
@@darkgravity237 its my opinion not ignorant hahahaha
Dr. Gravity no NV is but not fallout 3
[Intelligence 10] New Vegas is better
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xXStretcHXx intelligence 1 actually you fuxktard
[Fail] they both have there merits there both good in there own ways
I just feel like we should just share the love of the fallout franchise instead of debating wichone is the best ok guys jeez
I Work for a Living you MORON no oh i saw you on a video supporting 3 and you saying 3 was good so XD and wtf kind of name is bugthestard you act like its insulting I like black isle obsidian and bethesda fallouts they each have their charms so whats the problem an opinion oooooh noooooo and again bethestard us a feckin dumb insult its like saying blackisliot
Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter
Very true
I'm playing the game rn and I literally just heard that lmaooo
Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for The Act Man to upload "Why Fallout New Vegas is so Awesome"
Degenerates
@@gregbrb which he did
I mean, this wasn't really a fair comparison. Compare Fallout 3 to Fallout 4, cause everyone knows New Vegas is the best modern one.
Dr. Cimmerian that dudes arguments for fallout 3 are so flimsy and arguable like does he have a brain he tried to argue narrative was better in 3 sorry but if you actually believe that you must be shit in English class and easy to impress they have some of the worst writing in fallout other than 4
NAH fallout 3 world was much better than new vegas
fireballs yeah I forgot how good those copy and paste metro tunnels were or the brown and grey landscape where you can barely make out anything was amazing
Brett Williams Atleast u can explore it in fallout 3 in new vegas most of the area is empty
fireballs lol no there are more locations in new Vegas have you found them? and way more quests too, along with outcomes for the end, I love fallout 3 don't get me wrong but being able to anywhere in the map at the start shouldn't be good there should be parts you can't go to unless you're a higher level and you can go on the other side of the river on your own and find a shit ton of deathclaws along with some nice power armor sets and yes the left side of the map on the southern end is not explorable but the dlc makes up for that big time with being able to open two new areas in lonesome road and I think it's fair to include dlc since fallout 3 needs it to even stand a chance with that abysmal ending but we can all agree 4 failed horribly in that regard at least 3 had actual dialogue although cheesy sometimes but I do recognise without 3 there wouldn't be new Vegas and I appreciate it for that and still play it to this day along with new Vegas currently playing both lol
There both equally fun but New Vegas has way better writing and options for quests
no it's shit.
And 3 has the better world design and Liam Neason.
Hunam nice counter argument man
Hunam, no you're shit and New Vegas world is better than FO3 as the world hundreds years after nuke war and humanity is reviving instead a dead and boring ruin city with endless metro, despite the metro of FO3 is far behind the Metro franchise.
T4silly How so? Towns in F3 were magically surviving the wasteland without any food or water source and protection
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As I go riding merrily along
this means war
Ben Longhurst and they say oh ain’t ya glad you single!
"In an open world game I want to do it all in one playthrough" - how is that a coherent thought or argument?
Especially because good roleplaying games are designed to be played in multiple playthroughs, as believable characters wouldn't do everything that the game has to offer.
@kie I agree with what you are saying, but I would not conflate Fallout 4 with Skyrim, at least Skyrim has a proper dialogue tree. But yes, I agree, RPGs are moving further and further away from their DND roots, which has resulted in casualizing.
@Jona Sure, if you're comparing Skyrim to FNV, there is no comparison. FNV often has 30 lines of dialogue per character, but that doesn't mean that Skyrim's dialogue is bad.
@@BenDovahkin Okay, and your definition is?
replaybility is a strong point of fallout, but it was never requierement of a good rpg. You hardly hear anyone replaying ultima, final fantasy, skyrim, mass effect 2, and witcher 3. If the game is really immersive, you will feel so attached to the mc you dont want him to live different path. New vegas biggest weak point is that you dont really feel attached to the character emotionally. Did you have any emotional moment in new vegas at all?
Fallout 3 had 1 story. Fallout New Vegas had as many as you want, especially with the yes man playthrough. You could side with anyone, even the raiders could be made allies with. The better skill tree allowed for the player to play the game over and over again and have the ability to find different things. I absolutely love fallout new vegas for everything it did
quadro beam well at least blowing up megaton at the start felt awesome
CT Spoder amen to that
I actually dont like starting nv after 4 times i knew what was going to happen everywhere i went with fallout 3s random encounters new stuff happened each time i played dont get me wrong though there both great games i have no side
Yes, the story that ended in the exact same final battle but depending on your faction someone else was fighting with or against you
dizzu of astora the storys the same but the random encounters
New vegas
Deus Knight hands down.
Unfortunately unplayable because of performance on pc
Don homer I tried all of that with a legit bought steam version. Did not help :3
Mauwek it works fine on my PC. Fallout 3 crashes every 30 minutes tho
Fandom Tribal Fuck Yes ! You're being useless and pathetic to society as always 😊
New Vegas seemed like a more complete version of what fallout 3 was supposed to be.
Patrick i understood why the Brotherhood faction was like that
Ironically new vegas was also rushed out and had a lot of cut content because of bethesda
Emperorwolffang apart from fallout 3 was bigger so this point doesn’t make any sense
Emperorwolffang The funny thing is that Fallout New Vegas wasn't even completed as Bethesda forced the game to come out sooner then it would be to finished. Yet it's still better then Fallout 3 in every single way
Patrick yeah dude, because BoS is not a faction of fucking power rangers trying to save the world with the help of a giant robot and a huge army. It's a technocratic faction seeking for technologies of the old world, and it's trying to keep it safe from people in the wasteland. That's why they live in bunkers, have around like 30 members in it and are undercover most of the time. New Vegas's Brotherhood is the closest to what it should be in Fallout.
I liked the world of Fallout 3 more, it really gives you that feeling like you've been in a vault and have no idea of what's to come. Also, the claustrophobic feeling from 3 makes everything seem more personal, forcing you to deal with issues head on (in Vegas I could kill most enemies before they were even aware of me). However, New Vegas had a far better perk system that had made me come back to the game over and over again. I also love Boone and Ed-E, which just makes you a 3 person army (the enhanced perception and highlighted enemies makes you the ultimate sniper).
Fallout 3 makes you feel like a survivor and New Vegas makes you feel like a badass.
yeah love coming out the fault and defusing a nuke the second i enter the first town
@@_CrimsonBladethe problem isn’t being able to defuse it right after leaving the vault. You can explain that away as your character being incredibly lucky, or being very skilled in explosives after years of studying and practicing while in the vaults. However, the issue is it’s a 30 explosives skill check, which is the equivalent to a complete novice who barely has any understanding on explosives handling. And you can’t explain it away as luck either because the prompt literally tells you it needs someone highly skilled in handling explosives. It’s like they originally meant it to be a much harder skill check but some dev made a last minute change so that everyone could experience it early on.
So I played fallout 3 for the first time this February, this was my first fallout game. It's fair to say that I absolutely loved it. I genuinely felt I'm in post nuclear apocalyptic world because of it's ominous soundtrack and grim world. It really was a surreal gaming experience for me. Just like all games that you love from the get go, I was immersed in it for full 2 weeks. After finishing the game, I intended to download and play NV but didn't have any expectations for it to match the fallout experience.
I've been playing NV for the past 2 days and it's already clear how it's different and better than fallout 3.
You had me in the first half, ngl
Agreed. Fallout 3 had a fitting theme but game system was more diverse in fallout NV. I love getting immersed in games and Fallout NV I just couldn't sense a feel of Fallout theme also.
anchit kumar I played new Vegas first and then fallout 3 so you can believe how dissatisfied I was going from one to the other
Fallout New Vegas is too repetitive imo
@@Dustyholes And I'm assuming you never played fallout 3? 🤣
Bethesda fans : Fallout 3
Fallout fans : New Vegas
TheKestevon actually i've played all fallout games (1 was my first) and 3 is still my favorite
I'm a Fallout Fan and I prefer 3. You can't really discount someone just because they like one game over another.
YouQuo2
How can it be the other way around ?
Bethesda didn’t develop New Vegas
Most accurate comment
Thaibiohazard123 It could be the other way around if every person liked F3 as well, besides just Betheda fanboys
New Vegas
Fallout Tale of Two Wastelands
This should be the top comment.
I just started playing TTW last night. I haven't played Fallout 3 in like 8 years and I only played it once. It took a bit of time to get it set up with mods but my god is it awesome lol. Much better than Fallout 4.
Yes
The true answer !
New Vegas has Factions better choices in game the faction reputation system and it had such a good tone to gameplay and dialogue New Vegas is the best fallout game
Patrick Not if you stay hidden and kill them all before they detect you. But yeah i agree it doesnt make a whole lot of sense.
Patrick I do understand it's pretty stupid. But then again. Why would you kill random legionaries if you don't want to lose reputation?
@@Patrick-wj3qi Now this sounds like nitpicking! If you are going to talk down the reputation system just because of what you said, might as well talk down the entire video game logic - which states not to take itself way too seriously! Sometimes you just want to enjoy your game, which was created for the mere purpose of entertainment, instead of specifically looking for "flaws" in the system, which you know can't ever be perfect...you are the same kind of person, that would blame Mortal Kombat franchise for bringing back characters, that are dying from being executed by other characters fatalities, because of how "unrealistic" it is...
@Big daddy Kane B That isn't a "minus in the game", that is the NATURAL flaw that every game can have varrying on circumstances! Maybe its you, who are asking from video game way too fucking much?! Expecting it to feel like some kind of real life alternative, where every single step makes fucking sense?!...
Only thing I like about fallout 3 better then NV IMO is the map, I just dig the capital city with rural areas, nailed the map . New Vegas map I love too, fallout 4’s map isn’t as good as neither, it’s an meh map, feeling very plain .
*Fallout 3* will always have a warm place in my heart, as it was my introduction to the franchise and because of the amazing atmosphere.
*Fallout New Vegas* is the grownup brother of Fallout 3, as it has so much more depth. Amazing game.
*Fallout 4* , is meh. Way too linear for a Fallout of my taste.
Jesus fucking christ finnaly a good outlook for 3
Fallout 76: no
Yeah me too, fallout 3 was my introduction and it gave me so many nostalgia that apocalypse dark wasteland feeling it gave you, some of the problems i had was it was hard to play with bad karma i felt the game wanted me to play with good karma.
New vegas mostly fixed some gameplay stuff i wanted like being able to aim down sights better weapons customisation better quests, the atmosphere in new vegas felt more free kinda encouraged you to explore more for me. Also stuff you did mattered in new vegas, in fallout 3 you literally blowed up an entire town with an atomic bomb and the only one who mentioned it was your father once.
Im not saying this is what it is and since im not really experienced in both games i might have inaccurate points, correct me if im wrong
better depth? Hey go get that chip. Wowww. amazing story bro.
@@chroma6947 helping people who are dying in need of clean water. OMG this game is so shallow
Any true fallout fan knows deep down it's new Vegas
laytonc1 any TRUE fallout fan knows Fallout 4 is the best, very deep inside your heart.
laytonc1 any true fallout fan would like all fallout for the way that they were built, and like them all equally 😁
David Hollis no that’s a fanboy
Victor Romano then you're no fallout fan good sir
David Hollis nah I'd rather like quality which new Vegas is full off
New Vegas is the more entertaining title with intense rpg elements and questlines and so much more. 👌
New Vegas... And as for the debate, the Fo3 guy lost me when he said that he likes an openworld where you can do everything in one playthrough. That kills replay ability and roleplaying.What you gonna be? The worlds greatest diplomat? No thanks lol.. Part of the beauty of NV is that you cant have everyone liking you, but you can have everyone hate you or feel indifferent at best. I love starting a new game in NV and having the ability to "roleplay" who youre gonna be on this playthrough.The side quests in NV is what makes the world feel real and lived in. Theirs alot of factions,subfactions and communities and each have there own philosophy on life. And by helping many of them out too much will automatically make another faction dislike you. NV just seems more open world imo. And as soon as you finish character creation in NV you can just take off and explore the wastes in any way you want. Obsidian FTW!!!
SerfIllustrated Most people don't even finish 1 play thru tbh
Yea, the fallout 3 guy lost because he said fallout 3 is good, when it’s not, and he even says that it’s a good game when it’s horrible and he doesn’t even say that new Vegas is the best game of the millennium. New Vargas FTW!!!!1!1!!!1!!!!
i mean he could of pointed out the raider in 3 are more dangerous then nv ever was and it true the raider in 3 have traps NV only had raider with gun or dynamite and was easy to kill but yea NV wins
super mutants in shitout 3 are bad guys cuz yeah
Isn't that an admission that Fallout 3 doesn't offer any meaningful choices?
The expansive dialogue options, choices, and unique philosophies within the factions and subfactions make NV so much better. It feels like such a complete roleplaying game knowing that you can side with Caesar and understand his motives or you can just shoot him in the head without question. 3 just felt lacking
3 had a more dense map with better interior areas and the massive tunnel system that was nowhere to be seen in New Vegas makes it feel like you're getting more for your money. The Washington Monument, the massive barge tanker, the massive museum, the large junk city place, it had better places to explore.
Those philosophies of the sub factions gets old after one playthrough. you say it brings a more complete roleplay experience but fo3 has the same with ten penny tower underworld bos oasis(which everyone forget oasis buts ripe with philosophy and it answers current questions we have about fo76 with the dweller creater
3 allowed you to nuke a city.
@@realTexans2024 NV allows you to nuke 2 cities.
Fu
I'm sorry but New Vegas wins in my opinion my a long shot.
Blazing Caveman why are you sorry? That’s the majority opinion. It’s people who like fo3 more than new Vegas who apologize for having a different opinion
Why should they apologize for an opinion? I don't feel as if that's right, because it's an opinion, for a reason.
The gameplay is essentially the same, but the equipment and perks are much more interesting in FNV, in my opinion.
To me fallout 3 was my first, so there’s a special attachment and love to death. But fallout new Vegas showed me a a great story and more weapon options.
I first played these games in 2014. I started with 3 and then did new vegas. I love both. It is extremely hard to pick one over the other.
@@realTexans2024 same order for me only in 2017 instead
People forget FO3 came out in 2008. Survival/exploration fps shooter games didn't exist. No one played fo3 for the story.
People would rush to the 2nd to last main story mission right away so they could enjoy exploring and the side quests without worrying about the main mission and the story ending.
Pre 2011 people would be on their 20th playthrough.
Not a very great argument for the side of Fallout 3. Should have brought in Many A True Nerd.
But he likes New Vegas better, so he would probably argue for New Vegas.
Ah, i see what you mean, i was thinking of that video the whole time during this 'argument'
TheBloodyBaron he didn't really bring up any good arguments, all of the stuff that he says can be disproved by hbomberguys video.
Reptilian Lizard
MATN explicitly disproves that ghoul.
H-bomber guy goes on a tirade about how fallout 3 offers no player choice and then goes on to literally cry when he first plays fallout new Vegas when in reality new Vegas has the same stupid choice 3 has I.e either kill general Autumn or speech check him, in Vegas either kill legate lanuis or convince the beast of the east that many of his troops will die to hold the dam (you know the guy who is known for killing his own troops to instill discipline.)
And if you don't fight lanuis than you have sided with the legion because siding with a bunch of sexist, slaving, raping raiders is better than blowing up a town just cause. The game gives you literally no reason to side with Caesar's legion other than oh the NCR tax too much.
If you have some legit example of h-bomber guy even addressing any of matn's criticism than please, in the off chance you aren't bullshiting please given an example because for the rest of us non autist it isn't obvious.
Earth O' Pedia He's got a point though. There's really no need to get so hostile. If him clearly explaining something to you won't justify his argument, then what will?
The winner is Mr House. Obviously.
the house always wins.
I spared Benny
Isaih Johnson y tho. He was planning to take over nv just like mr house. Naturally i killed both of them
@@theawokenwarrior8436 well there is a lot of different outcomes. in mine he wasn't really bad necessarily he wanted to side with me in my 1st playthrough due to my speech and barter being maxed out really early in the game.
Edit: long story short mr house ends up winning either way.
So John Henry Eden vs Robert House?
Quests, Story & Roleplay mechanic : New Vegas
World, Atmosphere. & Immersion : Fallout 3
Agreed :D I love both games
New Vegas is more imersive and have better word bilding to me
Humam242 How can F3 have all those things when NV has superior repeatability
Humam242 fucking golden comment. Couldn't agree more.
Humam242 feel like New Vegas did all of that better than 3 did. I love both and I even play 4 still. But New Vegas is my favorite all around except for mechanics and especially gun play. Those mechanics were better in Fallout 4.
I like them both but the setting in which Fallout 3 takes place feels more creepy and dark. I can't believe how much people look down on 3 to be honest.
Only New Vegas fan boys look down on it, pretty annoying
@@d1sk-cord531im a new vegas fanboy but i still play both games. fallout 3 and new vegas are both games but when it comes down to rpg mechanics new vegas wins. and im typing this as im playing fallout 3 lol
Fallout Shelter.
For sure😢
Parth Gajjar heavily story driven tbh
Parth Gajjar hehe funny
It's even on consoles now. 😀
Well damn we might as well give up on every other game.
I liked New Vegas more for the western theme and the cool factions.
In my opinion, New Vegas had too many factions. Too me a Fallout game should be an experience based around the player's character and not around the factions that they choose. The factions were a bit smothering to say the least.
@@1deviousmama333 "too many factions"
You sound like IGN.
@Sinon You've found my secret.
@@1deviousmama333 For me fallout 3 had so little factions, like I wanted to get to learn about the enclave ad hopefully get to side with them but nope I gotta side with the brotherhood and get a selection of 2 endings (3 if you got the dlc and fawkes) which sums up to be a good guy and die or let another person go in and die
@@1deviousmama333 at least they give you options. Fo3 was just like "" do you want to side with the Brotherhood, or do you want to do this thing for the Enclave while siding with the Brotherhood? ""
I feel like fallout 3 really makes you feel like a young kid who is terrified of the wasteland but you end up no longer being afraid
Fallout 3 - A butt ton of places to explore
New Vegas - Eat Sand
The only thing Fallout 3 did better than New Vegas is the release date.
new Vegas
I think the best argument he raised was the one about the “frozen in time” look of Fallout 3.
They absolutely *nailed* the apocalyptic feel of that game, and not enough credit can be given for that feat. It gives you this unique feeling that you’re alone in this vast, empty wasteland.
Certainly the one thing FO3 has over NV. And Liam Neeson.
i'd respectfully disagree, i think New Vegas better understands the base setting of fallout 1-2-tactics within regards to its setting and it kinda shows a fundamental misunderstanding that Bethesda has with fallout as a whole. fallout isn't a series about the post apocalypse, its a series about the post-post apocalypse. in new vegas we see people building new things and embarking on the messy adventure of doing society and all its trappings.
tl;dr fallout is about living in a society
@@Hoi4ofgender I agree with the other guy
@@Hoi4ofgender I think a great way to sum up the difference between FO1, FO2 & NV vs FO3 & FO4, would be that the former wants to focus on what is, and the latter has an attachment to & wants to focus on what was.
There's an emphasis placed on the new world with the former and the aspect of moving forward and building something new. The remnants of the past exist, but do not dictate the course of history mankind takes post-war. Bethesda really leaned into the retro-futurism aspect with FO3 and FO4 with the whole 50's Americana deal, which is a little odd when you consider what weapons existed in FO1 - 02 - Tactics, along with clothing / armour. We went from a mix of 50 - 80s retro-futurism, to pure 50's Americana.
There are things F3 did better and other things NV did better. I liked that the F3 story was a bit more serious and less quirky/whacky. The world there was more intimidating, and I liked the fact that the character was better defined.
What New Vegas did better was the dialogue and interaction with NPCs, and providing more choices to the player and having these choices be more impactful.
After some thought.....IM BUYING BOTH OF THEM
New vegas i closer to a fallout game
Yust1234 sorry they don't own it anymore making games like the original Fallout don't pay the bills nothing against them I've played them
What really was great about the original Fallout, Fallout 1 and Fallout 2, was the feeling of being in this world. And that was attractive. Well, attractive is maybe the wrong word. It was compelling. (laughs) That's a better word.
I think what Bethesda did an incredible job at is making you feel like you are in this Fallout world. And that's what we did back at Black Isle, to make you really feel like you were in this Fallout world. The whole thing -- from the loading screens to the main menu to the Pip-Boy to all that kind of stuff -- it really felt like it was a whole cohesive unit of feeling like you're in this world. And they did that.
@@guji369 you made that sound like your were apart of Black Isle
New Vegas 🤘😎
@Martin Holcomb no
@Martin Holcomb no
Come on, want to have everything done on one play through? That’s the beauty of every great RPG! REPLAYABILITY!
Fallout 3 = Texas Red
Fallout New Vegas = *Big Iron*
No fallout 3 is better
@@clipsyoudontwatch what is your reason?
Tbh 3 was more fun than nv imo
@@bluemrgutsy8351 and it had a better radio host and soundtrack.
Fallout 3 trying to square up to Fallout: New Vegas is like trying to match a ranger with a big iron on his hip.
Fallout 3: I spawn in the middle of the map and can go anywhere.
Fallout New Vegas:
1: If I go West there are Cazadores and certain death
2: If I go North there are Death Claws and certain death
3: Guess I’ll just go to Nipton like the game wants me to.
That’s the one thing I hate about New Vegas. I’ll admit it improved on a lot but it lacked in freedom.
This is how it works in RPGs. Enemies have a fixed level from above, not like in 3 where the enemies have the same level as the player. Whether it's level 1 or level 30
New Vegas has a problem with impassable mountains, but 3 has subway lines that are much longer to overcome than such mountains.
It's much more fun to compare Fallout 3 and Fallout 4.
No because no one actully thinks 4 is better then 3
Not really both are same level the problem F3 was the first fallout of many people but try to play again now u will want to die
@@abarrerasantos197 So I mean objectively Fallout 3 has way more choice then Fallout 4 dose. Honestly though the gun play doesn't ruin the game by any means.
They are both misinformed, get some real fans for these videos.
JabbaWabba well all the real fans would instantly agree it’s New Vegas so there wouldn’t really be a video
Austyn Deitch
Yes
@@hakeempierstorff6964 Fallout 3 is far superior
NV is objectively better. They both have the same shitty gunplay, so the story and RPG elements are all that is left. If you have played both, you will know that the writing and storytelling in NV is leaps and bounds ahead of 3. Not to say 3 didn't have its moments, but yeah.
Ikanul New Vegas also had better gunplay than Fallout 3 (even though it was still bad) as you could aim down sights and it felt a little less stiff
Fallout new vegas is by far the best game of probably this decade.
Witcher 3 says hello
@@JudgeHolden2003 literally the bouncy AF trees turned me off. I know.
Fallout 3 better
@@clipsyoudontwatch In absolutely no way at all. Yes.
I like all these games but dark souls 1 is the best (imo)
Can we all appreciate how almost everyone here are respecting both games in their own way
Obsidian Entertainment seriously upstaged and out did Bethesda with New Vegas.. I loved 3's game play.. But the weapons mods, story, side quest etc in New Vegas all Had me hooked.. Then fallout 4 was kind of a bust personally.. Not a bad game just a bad fallout.. So have Obsidian make another Fallout game..
Luka Godec
Quit spamming, stupid kid.
Luka Godec TROLL SPOTTED
Luka Godec So, by your logic, you wouldn't need to take training yo use a tank, and you could just use it like a master right when you get in one?
Luka Godec And fallout games arn't supposed to be about combat, they're supposed to be about in depth desisions, a great story with no corny plot twists (Unlike FO4), and really make you think about what you do, not be a First Person shooter. The only time I ever felt conflicted in FO4 was deciding if I should let pickman live or not.
@Luka Godec Holy shit you have to be kidding.
New Vegas, hands down.
If you like game crashes every few hours, then yes.
@@Gamerguy826 bruh I can't even get into fallout 3 on windows 10
@@bluehat3673 To be fair, Fallout: New Vegas doesn't work on Windows 10, either.
SorcererWaluigi, But you can still get into it..
Mr O.J. Nah I’m dumb tho
Was the guy on fallout 3's side even trying? Didnt even mention how NV corners u and forces you to follow the roads till vegas aside from doing glitchy mountian climbing. Jesusss
It’s weird, I feel if you asked people five years ago which one was better, way more people would’ve answered Fallout 3, but now way more people would say New Vegas.
I gotta agree with you. Early on Fallout 3 was way more loved than New Vegas because of NV's rocky launch and the sheer IMPACT that Fallout 3 had on the gaming industry at the time. But as time passed, patches and DLC came out, and people took notice of all the merits that New Vegas actually has, love has really shifted over to NV instead of 3.
Personally, I do like New Vegas more than 3, so I'm glad to see the shift, but you are right that this wasn't always the case.
After having multiple play through of both games it is hard not to say New Vegas is better.
TheKestevon do you like both?
Imagine all the people in an alternate universe playing the full version of new vegas we never got to see and how much more amazing it must be for them
When an unfinished game is still more complete than the others (looking at you, fallout 4!)
I preferred the atmosphere of fallout 3 and was my favorite in the franchise but new Vegas is still a great game and I love them both.
DDog321987 finally someone who shares my opinion...
Same
I agree...
If you play as a woman in new Vegas and go to the arena guy in the fort, he says" what do you want from me woman? I'm in charge of the arena, not the cooking pots."
Things like that hidden in new Vegas make me laugh so hard
And in Fallout 3 there's a brick wall behind a door with a big "F*CK YOU" written on it. That one wall summarises the whole game in one sentence.
For me Fallout 3 GOTY edition. One of my all time favorite games. I felt connected with the hero and the whole scenario of the game was perfect. I loved how dark the game was and the DLC's were perfect.
Don't get me wrong . New Vegas had a lot of improvements over Fallout 3 but the search for his father, the whole journey and that ending will be forever in my heart.
Correct
100% someone who understands a good story
Same
The feeling you get when you exit the vault for the first time, can't describe it
@Lamda2 stay mad
Yes..
The fact that New Vegas got the popularity it has in spite of 3 getting all the marketing and media attention speaks for itself. Without special treatment, 3 would've been forgotten immediately, but New Vegas has overcome all odds to become a cultural phenomenon.
I enjoy them both. They have unique ways of having really freaking well made games.
New Vegas was the best fallout period. Minus the lag...
yea but that's true for all Bethesda Fallout games and every Elder Scrolls since Morrow Wind.
@@matteodevellis6266 skyrim >>>> new Vegas >>>>>>> fallout 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fallout 4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fallout 76
Light Yagami
Skyrim is incredibly mediocre and overrated.
@@lewisconnor2820 Yes.
@@lightyagami8645 skyrim doesn't hold the true Elder Scrolls RPG in my opinion. For that the best is morrowind imo.
I mean it's almost universal at this point that New Vegas is seen as the better game. I do agree on the points that fallout 3 had but overall these things do not compare to NV, imho.
LOL, said the guy with 3 upvotes. "Universal", indeed.
ive already found a thing wrong: no-one knows if you where born in the vault or not
Fallout 3 is unmatched to this day.
You can’t beat the capital wasteland of DC. 3 set the bar, every other game is trying to replicate it.
New Vegas is the second best.
Another argument for new Vegas is the introduction of the faction system. You could actually keep track of your reputation with all of the factions in the game.
I just pretended that my character from fallout 3 traveled to new Vegas on a enclave vertical bird
For me the best thing about a Fallout game is the world exploration and the atmosphere surrounding it. And for that Fallout 3 is waaaaay better. Like what's worst setting to set a post apocalyptic game? The FUCKING DESERT where everything is ALREADY dead, lifeless, harsh etc...
The house always wins...
Why not download Tale of Two Wastelands and play both on one character
I'm sure it depends on what you played first. I played new vegas first and it is my favorite in the series. However, fallout 3 captures a different tone equally as effective.
Fallout new Vegas (IMO) is better.
Fallout New Vegas (IEO) is better
Fallout new Vegas da Best
New Vegas, but I enjoyed Fallout 3 more for some reason. Something about the atmosphere, music, and world building really gravitated me toward that music
Fallout 3 is amazing, I honestly tried getting into New Vegas so many times and I just can't, but with 3 I get lost in its immersion, what an amazing game
New Vegas had villains that were a threat to the Mojave, but Fallout 3's version of The Enclave and their plans were a threat to anything that didn't have a pure, unmarred human genome. Basically a threat to just about everyone in the Fallout world. In 3, The Brotherhood Of Steel got to be true heroes for once instead of just being techno hoarders, you had the option of nuking Megaton city, got to deal with a "super hero" and "ant villainess," deal with a massive super mutant behemoth and actually give mankind a fighting chance to survive with Project Purity. The ambience also immersed you into the desperation and struggle of the Fallout world. 3's events, in my opinion, had a greater influence in Fallout in general.
New Vegas had The New California Republic, The BOS, and Caesar's Legion, and while I liked the The NCR and to a point the more vanilla BOS, Caesar's Legion just wasn't a long term threat. Caesar was dying after all, and without his vision and guidance, the Legion was destined to fall apart. As far as as weapons, New Vegas definitely had more, and had better gameplay, but then again, Bethesda had to put things together from scratch and Obsidian Entertainment already had Fallout 3 as a point of reference to innovate-so I feel it's kind of unfair to just automatically say that Vegas is superior to 3. I prefer 3 in any case, while I've noticed that the majority of comments sections have preference towards New Vegas, I'll stand by 3.
In this debate, New Vegas definitely won, but if you want to see a really good defense of Fallout 3, watch ManyATrueNerd's "Fallout 3 is better than you think". I'm not sure which one I personally prefer - I love both. I really appreciate Fallout 3's atmosphere, which it nails perfectly, and I'm sure I don't have to explain why I love New Vegas.
Honestly I think fallout 3 is better but that’s just my opinion
FO3 had better consistency than FONV. I concur.
@@Gamerguy826 what are you referring to with consistency?
@@BlackLegion12621 Gameplay consistency is better. That and performance consistency. I had much fewer FPS drops in FO3 and the game handled better overall in terms of system performance. Plus, I have never had FO3 crash on me. I think the optimization is infinitely better than NV.
@@Gamerguy826 I've heard that optimization on PC for New Vegas was a nightmare. I play on 360, and never had a crash for the game (plenty of glitches). As for gameplay consistency, I found Fallout New Vegas' combat to be less annoying thanks to the inclusion of iron sights and tweaks to the enemy AI. In Fallout 3, human enemies with guns had a tendency to strafe quickly, making it difficult to land hits without relying on VATS. I did find the world better for rewarding exploration in FO3, but more difficult to get invested in due to the shallowness of the characters and dialogue.
agree
Obviously NV, Bethesda Game Studios have completely bastardized the series through 4 and now 76.
At least wait until the game comes out lol
You know what, fair enough. Honestly though, what will save 76?. Honest question. I'm thinking of it as: "Fallout's weakest aspect was always the shooting and it's strongest was immersing the player (Not players) in it's world whilst giving them moral dilemmas, real role-playing, interesting NPC's and a compelling story. They built Fallout 76 around the weakest part of the franchise." I hope I'll end up liking it, but what will I end up liking? I hated the Division, Destiny, Borderlands, GR: Wildlands and Rust. Which is what 76 is a mix of.
I'm not really bothered about npcs. Godd said that there is still a story line with a bunch of quests so i'm happy about that. Also i really want to be a nice player and have a little shack to trade with other players. VATS is still in the game which helps people who can't aim a lot. I always wanted a fallout that's online. If it ain't good, at least i got the collectors edition and have cool stuff. The way 76 is looking. It's a game that depends on the players. We also get free content after launch so that's good.
See I like playing with my friends but not running around an open world shooting bullet sponges. The story I can almost guarantee will be even worse than 4's since there are no NPC's. V.A.T.S is different it only helps you aim and doesn't slow down time. I suppose it does depend on the players but even if I meet some really nice players, all we'll end up doing is visiting a few locations, killing a few enemies, looting, rinse and repeat.
It saddens me because Fallout's universe is so rich and full of potential and BGS aren't using it to it's fullest. It's my favorite universe in a gaming and they turned it into a looter shooter to play with your friends. People adore BGS and I honestly don't know why, no they're not bad but... why so loved? Like I understand CD Projekt Red and Naughty Dog, but BGS. Why? I think its because they make fun games, just not good stories. Story is everything to me.
How is this even an argument. Anything obsidian touches is gold.
I wish fallout 3 had a hardcore mode that would make it so much cooler and make you feel more immersed into the world and think about how wastelanders felt needing to use alot more rad away due to all of the radioactive water
Intelligence 1 [Duhhhhh..... uh huh fallout 3 good.... durrh Hodd Toward good.... hyuh hyuh Vegas Fanboy bad hahahahaha]
I bet you’re fun at parties
Intelligence 0 [ yay I am gonna compare two great games who focus on different aspects , yay ]
Come on really, the first game to the introduce first person element and the vats was good. I will never know why can some one tell me why people hate it... please?
Fallout 2 > New Vegas > Fallout 1 > Fallout 4 > Fallout 3
Switch 4 and 3. But other than that this list is pretty spot on
Correct order, hands down. Fallout 4 doesn't insult your intelligence to the degree that Fallout 3 does, but it still ranks below the Black Isle/Oblivion games.
Thagomizer 4 is worse than 3. At least 3 actually had weapon degradation, skill points, and the Karma system
I feel like Fallout New Vegas is a better sequel to Fallout 2 than Fallout 3 was. But if it weren't for Fallout 3 revitalizing the franchise, we would never have gotten Fallout New Vegas.
A well put quote I once heard: "The only thing keeping New Vegas from perfection is the god damn game brio/ creation engine"
Fallout 3. There's a charm and level of reality to Bethesda's world design that Obsidian just cannot match.
Fallout 3 is my absolute favorite, but both are amazing games! Let's not let disagreements overshadow the brilliance of both studios and the worlds they have created :) That said, regardless of which you prefer, for anyone who hasn't seen 'Fallout 3 is Better Than You Think', I highly recommend it--talks about a lot of the things referenced in this video and I just found it really compelling as it talks about aspects of game design put into both games that I hadn't considered previously
[Lie] Fallout 3 is better than Fallout New Vegas.
Fallout 3 and 4 aren't really a Fallout game. Just some action open world games with role playing elements.
The real Fallouts are Fallout 1, Fallout 2 and the real Fallout 3 - New Vegas.
I love both of them, but New Vegas had a few more features that I thought made the game better. Fallout 3 is still a great game and still holds a special place in my heart.
I think New Vegas was the better story, but Fallout 3 was the better game.
How it was better game??? Lol, they are basically the same in terms of gameplay, and NV has much better fractions, characters, more interesting World, better quests and overall much better writing and story.
@Pumpkincore if you played FO and FO2 New Vegas resembles them more : Humor, and overall feel of apocalipse, Original Fallout and Fallout 2 were not that Dark as FO3, and they didn't have any metros, but What i remember from them is huge amount of humor-lot's of reference to pop culture especialy Monthy Python and holy grail, and Fallout was never about Dark setting-sure Apocalipse is terrible place, but Mojave Wasteland resembles the Worlds of classics perfectly. And i had opposite-i always used VATS, almost never used normal shooting, because controls on Xbox one X in FO New Vegas are kinda bad. New Vegas combines satyrical humor, with grim setting of apocalipse-Just like oryginals Did. Also the monsters are closer to behave and look to Fallout 1 and Fallout 2 than FO3 creatures.
Fallout 3 expressed how America would have been if nukes did hit showing us that you can still be proud to be an American even after a fallout.
New Vegas is perhaps the best modern-day RPG, along with the Witcher 3
New Vegas>>>>>FO3, FO4.
Well new Vegas >>>>>fo3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>fo4
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New Vegas All day
All day? Lol
@@damiendemers7495 more like for eternity.
The argument for Fallout 3 wasn't fair, so many great points lost.
This is really a pointless comparasion. Fallout New Vegas is the true fallout game, it had the storyline, the atmosphere, greater quest line, good combat, memorable locations and characters. Fallout 3 is nowhere near it. This IP does not deserved to be under Bethesda. At least they did gave Obsidian a chance to make true a Fallout game, but its sad to see that it won't be happening anymore in the future. We will get quick money grabber game like Fallout 76 or anything from Bethesda but not a true Fallout game.
Fandom Tribal Wish that they would have allowed Arkane to handle in worst case scenario we would have got a good fallout game at least.
You know insulting people who like bethesda wont change bethesda owning fallout provide information in a respectable way and maybe bethesda will let obsidian make a new fallout game i have no side though i like them all equally (except tactics its a bad game) 1 and 2 were great 3 was good nv was good and 4 was ok .thanks for listening to my opinion
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@NGLApexIx Felt the same as you except with the copy and pasted metro tunnels in 3.
Vegas' world is much better.
New Vegas is superior in every way, end of discussion.
Blows my mind how they remember all of these locations and the people. I can play hundreds of hours of a game that i actually enjoy and i cant remember that lol
New Vegas. But all Bethesda games are kinda boring now.
Quests? Homeboy was given homework and forced to side on fallout 3. Yes a couple decent quests but almost all of them are a 2 dimensional story. New Vegas blows it out of the water objectively in that catagory.
I like FO3 the best. The world and the atmosphere edges it for me. There's some things i like better about New Vegas though like how you can wear different factions outfits and they wouldnt shoot you on site. Also gun mods. Both are better than FO4 and no doubt will be better than FO76.
I don’t about anybody else but I found new Vegas to be way too easy