I’m 42 years old. And, to this day. When I am driving in traffic I literally use Shredders voice & say: “They Are Stupid!!” Both a great call back & the honest truth about drivers on the road. 😎
What I love about this channel is the fact that at its core, it’s a dude that loves movies. He doesn’t force humor everywhere, he’s funny when it fits. Even if I knew most of the trivia, it’s an entertaining watch every time.
@@sleepinggorilla they really arent though :/ At best they are ok. Cmon. be real. Just because something is fun to watch doesn't mean it's done well. This aint Bloodsport we're talking about. That God Awful nunchucku scene at the end of the first with Splinter defeating Shredder's spear...was So Bad. Splinter's facial animation was ghastly too. Throughout the movie. I love the movie but it's full of directorial mistakes and the fight choreography is ....bland compared to anything made since. (for the most part) Anchorman brawl was 1000 times more coordinated. And it had no right to be considering it was a situation that had no effect on the story or the characters at all.
@@fnkbrig2942 It’s quiet Yea a little too quiet.. There’s Ralph! Yea a little too Ralph.. Who's Ralph? It’s quiet Yea a little too quiet.. There’s Raph! Yea a little too Raph..
Everytime I'm out cutting my yard and I see some weeds, specifically "Dandelions" I always immediately think back to that scene in the beginning with the giant dandelions growing because of the ooze and the dude picking one and saying "dandelions" in such a weird way. No idea why! lol
They went off-brand the second they made the first movie and then made it worse by making a cheesy childrens cartoon. Most people don't even know how vicious the original comics were.
@@jeffspain3613 I had some of the comics when I was a kid, and was in aww at how much more violent and brutal it was compared to the movie and cartoon series. The turtles actually use their weapons as intended. Foot clan would regularly get limbs cut off, sherikans to the face, and stabbed to death. It was awesome
The first TMNT movie I took my girlfriend/wife to see as a bunch of my "manly man" friends talked about how terrible it would be to take a girl to see a movie like that and that no self-respecting man would ever do such a thing as it would run any and all the females off. She and I had a great time and, surprise surprise, it didn't run her off... The poor gal actually married me and still is. Guys then and guys now, are weird. We've seen all the TMNT movies and still enjoy them to no end.
They say it like that in Australia and UK. And in the northeast US sometimes. They say er instead of uh. They use both sounds interchangeably I've noticed.
@@isaiahconstante2206 yeah it’s like the insert an R sound between two vowels when one word ends with a vowel and the next word is supposed to begin with a vowel.
My poor grandma took me to see this movie like 12 times. It never got old for me, but she was probably glad when it left theaters. Then I got it on VHS.
Super Shredder looked great on the big screen. I loved how they had the water glistening off his armor. You're right tho about his death, everybody at the time hated how Super Shredder was killed off in 5 seconds. I still have a faint memory bitching about it to my dad after walking out of theater...but I did like the movie, I was 7 after all.
For me as a kid, I felt it was darker. I remember seeing a lot of ugly colors and blackness and the dirty, grimy NYC looked liked the city we'd go go. Splinter hung with blood on his face and the turtles using their wepons. The sequel had so many cartoony sounds in the background, it was cleaner and more colorful.
Not sure if I'm mixing it with Simpsons ice cream, but wasn't there TMNT ice cream as well and it was shit but you just had to have it like everything else TMNT related.
@@photonut69 In the first movie Tatsu tells a kid who bumps into him, "Go play." In the second Shredder tells Tokka, and Razar the above line to threaten the turtles.
As a kid, my father was good enough to take me and a couple friends to see this despite not knowing a thing about TMNT or Vanilla Ice. I was always grateful he sat through that for us.
My dad who normally wouldn't be into stuff like this also took me and my friends and he surprisingly liked it as much as we did. Great memories to have now.
I had a chance to talk with Judith Hoag a few years ago at Steel City Con. She said she was complaining about the working conditions for the actors, not the violence. And yes that women has aged like a fine wine. She's actually better looking now than in the movie.
That makes sense. The second one was non violent so she would have had nothing to complain about so I always found that unlikely that she wouldn't return for that reason.
Ninja Turtles II was the first Turtles movie I saw in the cinema - my parents actually let me and my sister go to a cinema and watch it, which was surprising, given the more adult tone of the first movie - I guess they didn't know anything about it. I was very disappointed by the ending - super Shredder killing himself was a terrible way to end it. I also didn't like vanilla ice and the dance number. I loved pretty much everything else - especially Ernie Reyes Jr. and that is because I was a huge fan of Sidekicks TV show, which he co stared - I immediately recognized his credit in the opening of the movie and I got excited - I love all of his scenes, he has more fight scenes than Turtles have in the movie, and he also has a great plot of sneaking into the ranks of the foot clan. Back then I didn't notice the toned down violence, but it was immediately obvious as soon as I re-watched the original movie on VHS - and this basically killed the sequel for me - I never watched it again, while I re-watched the original probably couple of dozens of times. I never saw the 3rd movie - I just lost interest in TMNT franchise altogether. The mid 90s were a terrible time for sequels - everything was made kid friendly, pg13 and devoid of any excitement. Such a waste.
@@eliashuapilla I never saw any of them - as soon as I saw the terrible designs and humor - It was enough for me to not waste my time. But I very much liked the TMNT 2007 movie - it was pretty cool.
Me too. I still enjoyed it when I was a kid but rewatching those movies as an adult I definitely have a better appreciation for the first one as it was more comic book accurate. Even the story drew inspiration from the comics as well.
Agreed. At the age of 12 I didn't get to see many movies in the theater but I was loving the turtles back then so I had to see that movie. That year I saw 'TMNT 2' and 'The Rocketeer' and I was rather disappointed that 'The Rocketeer' ended up being the better movie. I'll never forgive all those mouthy parents for pressuring the studio to tone-down the violence, or Eastman and Laird for restricting character availability. We coulda had a better movie, and maybe even a great trilogy.
Honorable mention Michael Jai White was in this film as a Foot Soldier, if you watch the Wide screen edition you can see him briefly to the right on the scene when keno infiltrates the foot clan as they're going into the warehouse to begin training
Lololllll! “Could someone think of the poor childrennnn!!!!” 😂😂😂😂😂 I was literally on the floor dying! My God I swear I rewind that part 10 times at least! 😭😭😭😭 I love this guy! I’m subscribing ASAP!👍🏽👍🏽
I met Ho Sung Pak at a theater in Chicago, because he was doing publicity for TMNT II, as he was doing the stunt work in the Raphael suit. He was also in Chicago to do all the motion capture for Liu Kang in a little game series called Mortal Kombat
When I was a kid The Turtles were my childhood. Every birthday my parents would take me to Toys R Us and I would basically spend all my money on every Turtle thing I could get. The documentary Turtle Power is a really good watch. I couldn't wrap my head around how difficult it was to get funding for the Turtles movies considering it was a billion dollar commodity at the time and even though they basically had to scrape about nine million dollars for the first film and it was the biggest movie of that year, Turtles 2 still had to scrap a lot for "budgetary and time constraints." it's bonkers.
I’m from London and can vouch for the censorship of mikeys nunchuku in the show But I remember the movie channel on sky showing the scene with the “combat cold cuts” The scene was in
I went on an overseas holiday with family to the uk in 1990. Came home with stacks of “hero turtles” toys and merch. All my mates at school thought it was cheap knock off gear. I have a 9 year old who loves Secret of the ooze but who can’t make it through the first.
I'm from the UK, and I'm pretty sure I remember seeing the Michelangelo scene with the salami nunchucks when I was a kid on both TV and VHS. Me and my friends used to joke about it a lot
Same here, I had the VHS and the nunchucks scene is definitely in there. Same for the cartoon, although it is called hero turtles, it has the nunchucks.
I’m 38. I 100% agree that - growing up - the second version was my favorite but as an adult I like the first version more. Both are excellent, though. If either is on TV you can guarantee I am stopping what I’m doing to watch it.
When the second movie was released I really enjoyed this one more it had everything you wanted in a TMNT movie as a kid. Now that I'm in my 40s I respect the first one for being so faithful to the original comics
Same here. The 2nd one always was my favorite. As a very young kid at the time, it was more appealing being that it's more fun and light hearted than the first. Still is my favorite one to this day, but in all honesty it's only because of the nostalgia I get watching it. If I were to watch both movies for the first time as an adult, the first one definetly would be better
It was lighter and goofier but somehow still felt cool and still in-line enough with the first film, pretty much still a continuation and feeling like a big change in tone.
I remember watching secret of the ooze far more than the first movie when I was a kid but man I can barely watch it as an adult where I still thoroughly enjoy the first one.
I’m starting to keep a translation list for your channel: Capshirlll (capsule) Virniller (vanilla) Prezshumably (presumably) *feel free to add to this list
31 y/o here, watched it a couple of months ago. I had to skip through certain parts of dialogue and story development but it was still fantastic to watch. I really love the analysis towards the end, and throughout, that they missed the mark by toning down the violence. As someone who was born in '89 and grew up with a ton of 80s influences since I have a sister who is 6 years older than me, and a brother who is 4 years older than me, I got a lot of the hand me downs. And growing up I never could distinguish what it was that was particularly different about them(the 1st and 2nd TMNT live action movies), since the internet was still in development and the times were just different from the flow of instant access to endless information we have available today. But it really was the dark tone from the first one that keeps it relevant today. The Turtle's even went through existential crisis' and battled depression in the first movie when they lost Splinter like he was already dead. Raph goes looking for a fight as is his coping mechanism and stumbles across Casey Jones who easily had the popularity to return to this movie and could have played a relavant role to Keno and played the double agent line getting caught up by The Foot. The second one obviously paces better, but that doesn't always make it a better movie, just easier to watch and digest. The second one has a lot of fantastic elements, but I'm left to wonder at 18:46 just how fucking cool that fight scene would have been, and just all the fight scenes and the overall intensity of the movie if it followed the first movie more thematically. When you said you should do right by your fans and ignore your critics, the example you gave is the one that has ever made the most sense to me. Its still a gem in my eyes, but I was also like ~5 the first time I watched it, but when I did watch it again I really enjoyed it for what it was, a well put together film that predates CGI and does fantastic with this element that was pretty much entirely experimental. But the lack of grit, violence, and a real sense of danger and possible defeat were missing from the second film. Because just about everything else was fantastic. Even April got so much cuter. Fantastic analysis
Yeah, I liked the second TMNT movie even more than the first one at the time because I was 7 and loved the 80s cartoon. I used to wake up every Saturday morning just to watch that cartoon lol. As the years went on though I appreciate the first TMNT movie much more than the second. I loved the boldness and grittiness of it. The lighting and puppets looked amazing. The music and soundtrack was epic asf! Shredder's had one of the best intro themes I think for a villain ever in any movie. Remember the scene where he talks to the foot clan and he gives his speech? Badass. The guy who played Shredder in the first TMNT did a wonderful job I thought. I loved how he spoke/read his lines.
This is one of the 30 plus years of TMNT DVD's on my shelf along with an original (complete) party wagon and figures. That party wagon is a hell of a centerpiece, and TMNT Pops make wicked book ends. Also...I flippin WANT that Mars Attacks figure you got haha
Just thinking about the fact my fiancee and I were 4 and 7 when part 1 came out and went together (we were neighbors and really good friends for that age) to now being engaged and part 2 came out 31 years ago is pretty insane
@@ravensrevenge86 yes! She moved away 4 years later and other than talking once every few years we didnt have a lot of contact. Both got married to other people and year before last i messaged her to ask about something we did as kids and 2 years later the conversation never ended. Last march she took me to my favorite beach and proposed to me on the beach at sunset. I think fate played a huge role in it
Minty is so fair and honest. He has his opinions, but he always makes sure to include everyone. Such a well executed channel. Top notch research. Not only the best movie reviews,but top in all channels. Thanks Minty, and to the Minty fans out there. What are we called? Mintyheads? Mintyglasses ??? 😎👓🕶🕶🎬🎭🎬💿🎞📽 Gotta be something more witty. :)
Hollywood criticizes anyone who they think should not make any money. They were pissed because all of their movies were not making the margins that this series did.
Likewise. It must only of been cut on certain home video releases or something? I know it wasn't ever cut out of the film when it was shown on Sky movies cos that's how I used to watch it regularly from recording it off one of the sky movie channels.
His name is Ernie Reyes Jr, his dad choroegraphed the fights in Surf Ninjas, he was also on Surf Ninjas and The Rundown with The Rock and Sean William Scott. Theh said he has cancer now but haven't heard about hkm in a while, also I am not sure about this but I think he might have been in a movie in mid 1980s called "The Last Dragon" About a Chinese teacher teaching Bruce Leroy a guy who is at the last of a circle of trainging and a medallion supposedly from Bruce Lee. He is a little kid but when he is showing his Ki almost at the end of the movie.
As a kid, I was the same way: liked part 2 better than 1, then got older and swapped my preference. I had every single ninja turtle action figure and vehicle for the first few years they came out, including the squishy headed original turtles and Shredder. Once TMNT 2 came out, it was almost impossible to find Super Shredder in stores. My mom was a trooper though and found one someone had hidden in Toys R Us, on the very back of the shelf behind a crap ton of other figures. She didn’t normally go out of her way to get toys, but my brother and I were bonkers for the turtles and, outside of holidays, we did all our chores on the farm to get our allowance, which allowed both of us to get a new turtle each week. Before the turtles came along, we just had blocks of scrap wood that we had to pretend were Transformers or GI Joe. We didn’t have shit for toys, other than a few stuffed animals and a handful of He-Man figures. We just made do for the most part. I think she realized we were very keen to do our chores at the prospect of getting a new turtle, so it was just easier to keep us in line, as long as she had a carrot to dangle. Certainly made holiday shopping easy for the most part. Just find anything ninja turtle and we’d be happy...lol...and now I’ve been able to share my turtle fun with my daughter and, at 5, she’s a fan too...of the older stuff.
are you me? and I don't remember being you? not only did I get the standard purple suited version, but I also got the special black suited version that you had to send in clippings from Chef Boyardee for! And I still have them both
Actually I have more info on the subplot on the revelation of the Ooze, yes we were going to get the Utrom but here's the rest of it. You remember the end fight in which Kino kicks the canister of Ooze away from Shredder and Professor Jordan Perry just gets it and leaves? Well it was going to reveal in a scene in which he's in the restroom and he opens up his shirt and a brain creature is inside his chest cavity, revealing that Jordan Perry is actually a Utrom from Dimension X. Heck when the Turtles are in TGRI (instead of TCRI from the comics) if you pay attention to the entire lab specifically the center piece that is a glass pyramid, you can already see a Utrom in there. It's a shame that the subplot was not further explored because they thought it was "too weird", if you want to watch a video on the subject The Old Turtle Den did a video on the deleted subplot.
Yes this is accurate. I heard about that sometime ago but I'd forgotten till you just reminded me. I really wish they would have taken the time and made it the way they originally planned! How great that would have been!
@@jayfonz5765 Right?! Kids would be talking about that ending and would convince their friends to tell their parents to see this movie, that means a sequel with the Turtles in space would've been epic.
Great breakdown of one of my favorite movies of all time! I remember seeing the trailer on tv and me and my mom went to Food Lion, (a grocery store) and I went to the magazine isle and to my surprise , they had the same Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2: Secret of the Ooze comic book novel you showed. I always thought it was a graphic novel. And my mom got it for me, I read the whole book the next day and when I finally saw the movie I thought the book was better. So I kinda saw the movie before it came out because of a rare find in that grocery store but besides that I was still ecstatic to see the move because that’s all me and my friends was talking about seeing. I remember how excited I was when I was going to see it. I remember going to school the next day and all me and my friends talked about was the movie. You did a awesome video and I really enjoyed it. Thanks for bringing back those memories. Keep up the great work! 👏🏾👏🏾👍🏾👍🏾👑🐢✊🏾
Vanilla Rice?! The first movie is brilliant. Even as a kid seeing all these new, I couldn’t stomach either sequel. I’ve never seen either of them more than once.
When the Secret of the Ooze came out, we went to see the movie in the theater on opening day, and about two weeks later they sold a VHS tape about the making of the Vanilla Ice scene, which I talked my dad into buying for me, but he thought it was the actual movie. The picture used with Vanilla Ice surrounded by the Turtles was the video tape cover. My dad was upset when he saw that it was only ten minutes, and that it was just about five minutes of making it, and about four minutes of a music video with everyone in the movie, so there are actually two Vanilla Ice Go Ninja videos out there. My favorite quote from the making of video section was Vanilla Ice saying, “They told me the song had to be clean, you know, for the kids, which is me anyway, so…….”Then it cut to the filming of the song with all of the pelvic thrusts. Loved it at the time, now it’s just down right ridiculous, but nostalgia fixes my secret shame.
You’re correct for doing so. At 43, I own the first film. I saw the sequels new and never bothered watching either of them more than once. I’ve never even considered watching the Bay films.
Jeff Spain, That might make it a bad adaptation. It doesn’t make it a bad movie. For those who have no experience with the source material, it doesn’t matter.
Fun fact: I work as a toy designer in Chicago and had the honor of working on the Burger King Kids Meals toys for the Nickelodeon release of TMNT back in 2012. We were told not to show any pizza or weapons in the concepts we pitched to BK as the weapons would imply violence and pizza would imply junk food. Yes, you read that right, Burger King did not want to showcase “junk food” 😐
haha i had fun watching this man, you nailed it at the end when you talked about just staying true to your core fans instead of trying to please everyone. This same rationale could be applied to video games as well when they make sequels or changes/updates. Anyways good stuff me :D
Hi mark, big fan! I've been watching your videos for a long time now! Really enjoy them! I'm from liverpool, and spent my youth absolutely loving everything about the 80s! Keep up the good work squire!!!👍👍👍😁😁
I’m 42 years old. And, to this day. When I am driving in traffic I literally use Shredders voice & say: “They Are Stupid!!” Both a great call back & the honest truth about drivers on the road. 😎
They’re not stupid, they’re infants XD
"Bang."
"Ow!"
Ok, they're stupid infants.
Im 53 now was a 23 when it came out then
Whenever someone asks for someone to challenge them, I always hear him saying "I challenge...."
You really hit the nail on the head for...really the entire 90s:
“They’ll complain that it’s too violent AND they’ll complain that it’s too childish.”
Ahh the old VHS 😆
We'd play them so many times that the tape inside would wear out 😆😆😆
Who are they? That's the point you childishly misses. Are you 12 already?
What I love about this channel is the fact that at its core, it’s a dude that loves movies. He doesn’t force humor everywhere, he’s funny when it fits. Even if I knew most of the trivia, it’s an entertaining watch every time.
I honestly thought that the turtles 🐢 in the 90s movies looked way more realistic then the updated movies.
@@sleepinggorilla they really arent though :/ At best they are ok. Cmon. be real. Just because something is fun to watch doesn't mean it's done well. This aint Bloodsport we're talking about. That God Awful nunchucku scene at the end of the first with Splinter defeating Shredder's spear...was So Bad. Splinter's facial animation was ghastly too. Throughout the movie. I love the movie but it's full of directorial mistakes and the fight choreography is ....bland compared to anything made since. (for the most part)
Anchorman brawl was 1000 times more coordinated. And it had no right to be considering it was a situation that had no effect on the story or the characters at all.
today its all wht trash CGI
@Edwin V I have an idea use cgi to enhance not replace the puppets!
@@michaelrodriguez2829 movies/shows that have done this shows that is a happy combo that works well
@@killwalker she’s not the only one with that opinion. Jim Henson‘s turtles looked more real than the CGI and better
Leo: You take the ugly one
Ralph: No you take the ugly one
Donatello: I'll take the ugly one
Mikey: Which one is the ugly one?
🤣🤣
Funny Stuff! thumbs up!
It’s quiet
Yea a little too quiet..
There’s Ralph!
Yea a little too Ralph..
@@fnkbrig2942 It’s quiet
Yea a little too quiet..
There’s Ralph!
Yea a little too Ralph..
Who's Ralph?
It’s quiet
Yea a little too quiet..
There’s Raph!
Yea a little too Raph..
@@DJShihTzuman why is raph?
@@fnkbrig2942 best line in the movie
"Babies! They're Babies" -- best Shreddar line ever
"What did you expect. Them quoting Macbeth?"
@@wstine79 lol
Mama?
They’re stupid! They’re not stupid they’re infants, BANG! Ok they’re stupid infants lol
I personally like “The next fight will be freak against freak!”
1:09
"I feel old now."
We all do, Minty, we all do...
Everytime I'm out cutting my yard and I see some weeds, specifically "Dandelions" I always immediately think back to that scene in the beginning with the giant dandelions growing because of the ooze and the dude picking one and saying "dandelions" in such a weird way. No idea why! lol
He's saying "dandeloins" in such a weird way because he's shocked and astonished at the gigantic mutant size of them.
@@darthcaul9447 Yep! My lawnmower would HATE those things!
Honorable Mention: Micheal Jai White was in the group with Kino to join the foot.
Glad someone else noticed. Good eye 👁👍
@@SuperMrXYZ123 i wanna see him go through the tests. I know he got his pajamas lol
@@slythe3rd100 For sure lol.
So is Daniel Pesina
didn't know that
"It's better to be true to your brand, than try to appease the people who are going to complain no matter what."
Truly words to live by.
Thirty years later and companies *still* don’t understand that.
They went off-brand the second they made the first movie and then made it worse by making a cheesy childrens cartoon. Most people don't even know how vicious the original comics were.
100% agree.
@@jeffspain3613 I had some of the comics when I was a kid, and was in aww at how much more violent and brutal it was compared to the movie and cartoon series.
The turtles actually use their weapons as intended. Foot clan would regularly get limbs cut off, sherikans to the face, and stabbed to death. It was awesome
Yess
Donatello: "Look, it's Raph!"
Michelangelo: "Yeah, a little too Raph" 👀
My favorite part 🤣😂
I remember.
😂 great throwaway line
Big time LOL
This comment made my day
Critics:
1st movie - Too dark and violent
2nd movie - Not violent enough
Hypocrites much?
Go figure!! 😂
Sorry, where was the violence in the first movie?
The first TMNT movie I took my girlfriend/wife to see as a bunch of my "manly man" friends talked about how terrible it would be to take a girl to see a movie like that and that no self-respecting man would ever do such a thing as it would run any and all the females off. She and I had a great time and, surprise surprise, it didn't run her off... The poor gal actually married me and still is. Guys then and guys now, are weird. We've seen all the TMNT movies and still enjoy them to no end.
Awesome!
Even the Michael Bay produced ones?
Which I liked quite a bit.
It's both lazy and (obviously shown in your story!) incorrect to bottle females up into some sort of hivemind lol, people are people!
That's an awesome story😁🍸
That's awesome. Did you do the Ninja rap together?
I can’t unhear “Vanilla Rice”. Was that on purpose? 😂
It’s Vanillar Ice! Duhhh
Rice, Rice, Gravy 🎶 😎
They say it like that in Australia and UK. And in the northeast US sometimes. They say er instead of uh. They use both sounds interchangeably I've noticed.
@@isaiahconstante2206 yeah it’s like the insert an R sound between two vowels when one word ends with a vowel and the next word is supposed to begin with a vowel.
@@isaiahconstante2206 Not really, matey boy here just has a talent for linguistic butchery.
I can’t tell you how many times I saw this movie when I was a kid. My brother and I wore out the VHS 😂 😂
All I have to do is hear that classic intro for the VHS tapes f.h.e😂
My poor grandma took me to see this movie like 12 times. It never got old for me, but she was probably glad when it left theaters. Then I got it on VHS.
Lol. We are probably around the same age. The only movie I saw twice in the theater was Terminator 2.
I saw it 12 times too,I would walk to our mall to go to c it lol my parents got tired of taking me 2 c it lol
Damm, 12 times ?! Wow ur grandma was awesome
once was enough
No word of a lie, I'm 36 and this is still in my top 5 all time favourite films.
I'm with you!
Shame here my top filthteen
Same
Facts bro I'm 37
Me too. You should see my collection im 39 lol. No shame in the TMNT
As cool as Super Shredder was it kind of sucks that he essentially took himself out at the end of the movie in like 10 seconds.
Yeah, a dock can kill shredder but a garbage truck crushing him cant? 😂
Kevin Nash was scared he would blow out his quad muscle, if he was on screen too much.😉🤣
Yeah I agree “super shredder” deserved a real battle to the end.
@@d_dizzie_druck5753 you are prolly right dude blows his quad with every other step he takes yo
Super Shredder looked great on the big screen. I loved how they had the water glistening off his armor. You're right tho about his death, everybody at the time hated how Super Shredder was killed off in 5 seconds. I still have a faint memory bitching about it to my dad after walking out of theater...but I did like the movie, I was 7 after all.
"VANILLA RICE" AHAHAH
Gotta love Australian accent
I’m kinda shocked that people thought the first one was “dark and violent” didn’t seem that way as a kid. I loved it!!
I’m surprised too. I thought it was a fun yet more “realistic” take on the cartoon. “Realistic” by a 10 year old’s standard at least.
@@LRon-ef7ni exactly!!
Ninja kick the damn rabbit do something
It didn’t but the second one felt a bit more light and campy.
There was this gritty feeling to the first one
That felt really serious.
For me as a kid, I felt it was darker. I remember seeing a lot of ugly colors and blackness and the dirty, grimy NYC looked liked the city we'd go go. Splinter hung with blood on his face and the turtles using their wepons. The sequel had so many cartoony sounds in the background, it was cleaner and more colorful.
Everytime the intro scene plays I get the hunger for NY pizza
Unfortunately crappy Dominos pizza of the 90s
Its been years searching, i have yet to find the type of slice my young self idolized
Me too. And I've never had NY pizza. - that is, Pizza made in NY.
That’s my secret Cap, I’m always hungry for NY pizza
All the time 🤣
Anyone remember the "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles " pies? Had green pudding in them. I loved those as a kid
Those were so good!
Anyone remember the turtles version of teddy grams ? And if you ate to many of them they would turn your shit green ???
Not sure if I'm mixing it with Simpsons ice cream, but wasn't there TMNT ice cream as well and it was shit but you just had to have it like everything else TMNT related.
Yes they were so good 🤤😋
Merchandising for this movie was brilliant. They really used the whole "Ooze" thing to its fullest 😆
When I let the dogs outside I normally say "Go Play, have fun"
First movie reference isn’t it?
Master say have fun!
@@photonut69 In the first movie Tatsu tells a kid who bumps into him, "Go play." In the second Shredder tells Tokka, and Razar the above line to threaten the turtles.
FUNNN🐺!
“It’s Raph!”
“Yeah...a little TOO Raph!”
My Favorite line 😂😂
I still remember poping this movie into the VCR 73 times as a 6 yr old. So glad you finally did this movie!
Yup, it was the one I watched most often when I was a wee lad. Ironically, it's my least favorite of the three original movies as an adult.
Ya i still have the VHS tapes📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼 and VCR! Lol 😂 I don't have Ninja Turtle though!🐸🐸🐸🐸🐢🐢🐢🐢🐛🐛🐲🐉
So did I I run my VCR to the ground
Born in 1985?
My brothers would rewind it and play it over and over all night especially after the 3td movie. Have DVDs and Blu-Ray.
As a kid, my father was good enough to take me and a couple friends to see this despite not knowing a thing about TMNT or Vanilla Ice.
I was always grateful he sat through that for us.
My dad who normally wouldn't be into stuff like this also took me and my friends and he surprisingly liked it as much as we did. Great memories to have now.
@The New NKVD Like your handle. Didn't know anyone had even heard of the NKVD. Don't be a fool, like Beria. Play nice, or share fate of Australian AG.
My dad took us to Beavis and Butt-Head. He loved them 🤣.
Thanks for pointing out that 1991, when I was 10 turning 11, was 30 years ago. I do not feel old at all...
1984 here, I'm 36 😪
i remember watching - then coming out of the theater and doing karate moves in the parking lot!
We ALL did, man, lol...
Turtles didn't do Karate lol 😊
@@gaglet lol ....ninjutsu.....turtles.
I did the karate moves....lol
Who didn't love Vanilla Rice in the 1990s?
I had a chance to talk with Judith Hoag a few years ago at Steel City Con. She said she was complaining about the working conditions for the actors, not the violence.
And yes that women has aged like a fine wine. She's actually better looking now than in the movie.
The comment I was looking for :)
That makes sense. The second one was non violent so she would have had nothing to complain about so I always found that unlikely that she wouldn't return for that reason.
Yeah, she looks pretty good for a redhead. I usually don't like looking at redheads because they make my eyes water but she's definitely bearable.
I remember seeing the trailer for the first movie and being blown away at the costume work.
@Helping Heroes Hatzidakis Yea, they had a crazy amount of detail. They don't make toys like that anymore unless it's meant for adult collectors.
Ninja Turtles II was the first Turtles movie I saw in the cinema - my parents actually let me and my sister go to a cinema and watch it, which was surprising, given the more adult tone of the first movie - I guess they didn't know anything about it. I was very disappointed by the ending - super Shredder killing himself was a terrible way to end it. I also didn't like vanilla ice and the dance number. I loved pretty much everything else - especially Ernie Reyes Jr. and that is because I was a huge fan of Sidekicks TV show, which he co stared - I immediately recognized his credit in the opening of the movie and I got excited - I love all of his scenes, he has more fight scenes than Turtles have in the movie, and he also has a great plot of sneaking into the ranks of the foot clan. Back then I didn't notice the toned down violence, but it was immediately obvious as soon as I re-watched the original movie on VHS - and this basically killed the sequel for me - I never watched it again, while I re-watched the original probably couple of dozens of times. I never saw the 3rd movie - I just lost interest in TMNT franchise altogether. The mid 90s were a terrible time for sequels - everything was made kid friendly, pg13 and devoid of any excitement. Such a waste.
3rd movie was the worst movie of the franchise...until the remake 😂😅
@@eliashuapilla I never saw any of them - as soon as I saw the terrible designs and humor - It was enough for me to not waste my time. But I very much liked the TMNT 2007 movie - it was pretty cool.
@mateuszkwietowicz2470 some of my little cousins wanted to see it, so we watched it. But I agree with the 2007 movie. That was good
As a kid I remembered I was so disappointed it wasn't as serious as the first
Same here TBH :\
Me too. I still enjoyed it when I was a kid but rewatching those movies as an adult I definitely have a better appreciation for the first one as it was more comic book accurate. Even the story drew inspiration from the comics as well.
At least it's better that number 3
@@CoreyWE oh for sure, to hell with number 3!
Agreed. At the age of 12 I didn't get to see many movies in the theater but I was loving the turtles back then so I had to see that movie. That year I saw 'TMNT 2' and 'The Rocketeer' and I was rather disappointed that 'The Rocketeer' ended up being the better movie.
I'll never forgive all those mouthy parents for pressuring the studio to tone-down the violence, or Eastman and Laird for restricting character availability. We coulda had a better movie, and maybe even a great trilogy.
Honorable mention Michael Jai White was in this film as a Foot Soldier, if you watch the Wide screen edition you can see him briefly to the right on the scene when keno infiltrates the foot clan as they're going into the warehouse to begin training
Spawn/TMNT movie crossover could have been fun. lol
It's pronounced "Keno"....
@@SlickRick4EVER ok
I know it's your accent but I crack up every time I hear "Vanilla Rice." 😂
The first movie was actually mainly based off of the original comics.
Everyone knows that.
This is actually my favorite one outta the whole trilogy
Me too!
Same here! When this movie came out, I was nuts for Vanilla Ice and had a crush on him. (I also had a crush on Michaelangelo, but that's just me.)
This still looks a million times better than the cgi rubbish they released since
You can’t beat physical effects.
I "like" this comment a million times over
Or TMNT 3...
Yes
I didn't like the two reboot movies
Jim Henson thought Turtles was too violent? But yet "Dark Crystal" scared the living crap outta me back then.
Lololllll! “Could someone think of the poor childrennnn!!!!” 😂😂😂😂😂
I was literally on the floor dying! My God I swear I rewind that part 10 times at least! 😭😭😭😭
I love this guy! I’m subscribing ASAP!👍🏽👍🏽
I met Ho Sung Pak at a theater in Chicago, because he was doing publicity for TMNT II, as he was doing the stunt work in the Raphael suit. He was also in Chicago to do all the motion capture for Liu Kang in a little game series called Mortal Kombat
Not just Liu Kang, he also did the motion capture for Shang Tsung, who was the game's final boss.
@@jeremyriley1238 that’s right
I went to a Vanilla Ice concert and he brought out TMNT to dance with him.... so I think he’s over it by now. HA
"Vernillra rice!" Lol get um Minty! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hey Minty, could you please please please do Idiocracy? Super relevant to the current era. Scarily so in fact!
I love that movie. And you're so right.
I swear some of these stories about the people complaining about the violence makes me cringe everytime
Thirty years later this has only gotten worse thanks to social media.
@@SumDumGy so true
When I was a kid The Turtles were my childhood. Every birthday my parents would take me to Toys R Us and I would basically spend all my money on every Turtle thing I could get. The documentary Turtle Power is a really good watch. I couldn't wrap my head around how difficult it was to get funding for the Turtles movies considering it was a billion dollar commodity at the time and even though they basically had to scrape about nine million dollars for the first film and it was the biggest movie of that year, Turtles 2 still had to scrap a lot for "budgetary and time constraints." it's bonkers.
April trying to Chuck in front of Kino with Mikey sighing is easily one of the 100 things I 💘 in this movie!🎥
I’m from London and can vouch for the censorship of mikeys nunchuku in the show
But I remember the movie channel on sky showing the scene with the “combat cold cuts”
The scene was in
31 years.... *insert the Santa clause scene where he immediately grows white beard after shaving
Lol....all I hear is Vanilla Rice 🤣
Man, I can't say Vanilla Ice anymore, this guy totally changed it for me😂😂😂😂
I went on an overseas holiday with family to the uk in 1990. Came home with stacks of “hero turtles” toys and merch. All my mates at school thought it was cheap knock off gear.
I have a 9 year old who loves Secret of the ooze but who can’t make it through the first.
I'm from the UK, and I'm pretty sure I remember seeing the Michelangelo scene with the salami nunchucks when I was a kid on both TV and VHS. Me and my friends used to joke about it a lot
Same here, I had the VHS and the nunchucks scene is definitely in there. Same for the cartoon, although it is called hero turtles, it has the nunchucks.
It is remember michelangelo shouting COMBAT COLD CUTS!!!😆😆
I’m 38. I 100% agree that - growing up - the second version was my favorite but as an adult I like the first version more. Both are excellent, though. If either is on TV you can guarantee I am stopping what I’m doing to watch it.
When the second movie was released I really enjoyed this one more it had everything you wanted in a TMNT movie as a kid. Now that I'm in my 40s I respect the first one for being so faithful to the original comics
I remember seeing the first movie in the theatre...there was so much excitement back then!
Yeah, I liked this one better as a kid. It was a lot more like the cartoon most kids got their first introduction to the turtles from.
Same here. The 2nd one always was my favorite. As a very young kid at the time, it was more appealing being that it's more fun and light hearted than the first. Still is my favorite one to this day, but in all honesty it's only because of the nostalgia I get watching it. If I were to watch both movies for the first time as an adult, the first one definetly would be better
I remember growing up and loving Ninja Turtles including the live action.
It was lighter and goofier but somehow still felt cool and still in-line enough with the first film, pretty much still a continuation and feeling like a big change in tone.
Shredder being called "Momma" by a giant grotesque turtle and drooling wolf is the best part of the whole movie.
i was so aggravated not to have Bebop, Rocksteady, and Krang! but they were great!
BABIES!!!! THEY'RE BABIES!!!!! ARGH!!!!!!! 🤣🤣
By the time Secret of the Ooze came out "Vaniller Ice" was already a has-been and a complete joke.
I remember watching secret of the ooze far more than the first movie when I was a kid but man I can barely watch it as an adult where I still thoroughly enjoy the first one.
From this day forward, he shall forever be known as "Vanilla Rice"...
Voniller
"Karens" have been around a long time Minty.
“Shredder! You got to listen to reason. You’re going to destroy us all!”
*So be itttttt!*
Don’t Forget where are turtles 🐢
I’m starting to keep a translation list for your channel:
Capshirlll (capsule)
Virniller (vanilla)
Prezshumably (presumably)
*feel free to add to this list
31 y/o here, watched it a couple of months ago. I had to skip through certain parts of dialogue and story development but it was still fantastic to watch.
I really love the analysis towards the end, and throughout, that they missed the mark by toning down the violence. As someone who was born in '89 and grew up with a ton of 80s influences since I have a sister who is 6 years older than me, and a brother who is 4 years older than me, I got a lot of the hand me downs. And growing up I never could distinguish what it was that was particularly different about them(the 1st and 2nd TMNT live action movies), since the internet was still in development and the times were just different from the flow of instant access to endless information we have available today. But it really was the dark tone from the first one that keeps it relevant today. The Turtle's even went through existential crisis' and battled depression in the first movie when they lost Splinter like he was already dead. Raph goes looking for a fight as is his coping mechanism and stumbles across Casey Jones who easily had the popularity to return to this movie and could have played a relavant role to Keno and played the double agent line getting caught up by The Foot.
The second one obviously paces better, but that doesn't always make it a better movie, just easier to watch and digest. The second one has a lot of fantastic elements, but I'm left to wonder at 18:46 just how fucking cool that fight scene would have been, and just all the fight scenes and the overall intensity of the movie if it followed the first movie more thematically. When you said you should do right by your fans and ignore your critics, the example you gave is the one that has ever made the most sense to me. Its still a gem in my eyes, but I was also like ~5 the first time I watched it, but when I did watch it again I really enjoyed it for what it was, a well put together film that predates CGI and does fantastic with this element that was pretty much entirely experimental. But the lack of grit, violence, and a real sense of danger and possible defeat were missing from the second film. Because just about everything else was fantastic. Even April got so much cuter.
Fantastic analysis
Jesus. All that for TMNT?
Ah yes. Vanillar Ice.
Secret of the Oourrze. Lol.
Ninjer rap
I unsubbed, I can't take his extra R's anymore
Ultroms
@@greenrobot5 dorn't you think that to be a bit harsh?
@@greenrobot5 So you have a problem with UK and Australian accents? Alrighty then, if that's the hill you want to die on. 🤷♂️
This one was always my favorite as a kid because it felt more like the cartoon.
Yeah, I liked the second TMNT movie even more than the first one at the time because I was 7 and loved the 80s cartoon. I used to wake up every Saturday morning just to watch that cartoon lol. As the years went on though I appreciate the first TMNT movie much more than the second. I loved the boldness and grittiness of it. The lighting and puppets looked amazing. The music and soundtrack was epic asf! Shredder's had one of the best intro themes I think for a villain ever in any movie. Remember the scene where he talks to the foot clan and he gives his speech? Badass. The guy who played Shredder in the first TMNT did a wonderful job I thought. I loved how he spoke/read his lines.
This is one of the 30 plus years of TMNT DVD's on my shelf along with an original (complete) party wagon and figures. That party wagon is a hell of a centerpiece, and TMNT Pops make wicked book ends. Also...I flippin WANT that Mars Attacks figure you got haha
I was 9 and 10 years old when the movies came out and I loved them..
We had a great childhood our generation 👍😁👍
No matter how many times I heard him say vanilla rice I found myself just wanting him to say vanilla rice one more time
oh good it wasn't just me hearing vanilla rice
lmfao
Vaniller Rice. LOL
😁🤣🤣🤣
Just thinking about the fact my fiancee and I were 4 and 7 when part 1 came out and went together (we were neighbors and really good friends for that age) to now being engaged and part 2 came out 31 years ago is pretty insane
That's awesome!
@@ravensrevenge86 yes! She moved away 4 years later and other than talking once every few years we didnt have a lot of contact. Both got married to other people and year before last i messaged her to ask about something we did as kids and 2 years later the conversation never ended. Last march she took me to my favorite beach and proposed to me on the beach at sunset. I think fate played a huge role in it
@@woodworkingandepoxy643 That's so beautiful glad you both found each other after all these years it was definitely fate.
@@woodworkingandepoxy643 thats a feel good story yo!!
wow that's a really interesting story a true love story
Minty is so fair and honest. He has his opinions, but he always makes sure to include everyone. Such a well executed channel. Top notch research. Not only the best movie reviews,but top in all channels.
Thanks Minty, and to the Minty fans out there.
What are we called? Mintyheads?
Mintyglasses ???
😎👓🕶🕶🎬🎭🎬💿🎞📽
Gotta be something more witty. :)
Mintydorks? Mintynerds? Mintygeeks? Or Mintydweebs?
Hollywood criticizes anyone who they think should not make any money. They were pissed because all of their movies were not making the margins that this series did.
I caught one of the fake pizzas they tossed into the audience at the Concertt😎
Probably would be worth a small fortune now
Being a Brit, I remember as a kid seeing the sausage-nunchuck scene on vhs, though it was a long time ago, I'm sure I've seen that scene
same here
Likewise. It must only of been cut on certain home video releases or something? I know it wasn't ever cut out of the film when it was shown on Sky movies cos that's how I used to watch it regularly from recording it off one of the sky movie channels.
@@shockz16 I had on vhs..but i remember that scene
You have... It was never edited out of the UK version, he's wrong 👍
Same here. Maybe it was edited out of the cinema release but added for the VHS release
Interesting facts: Eastman & Laird actually stated the mutagen ooze is the same radioactive chemicals in Daredevil
I want an R-rated Turtles movie.
FUN FACT: the Pizza boy was also the boy-prince in RED SONJA, where you can also see him doing martial arts.... Please do RED SONJA.
Red Sonja is so terrible. I love it so much.
Pizza also played in a movie called “the last dragon” he’s a little kid in the movie doing more martial arts and even some break dancing.
Also in Surf ninja
His name is Ernie Reyes Jr, his dad choroegraphed the fights in Surf Ninjas, he was also on Surf Ninjas and The Rundown with The Rock and Sean William Scott. Theh said he has cancer now but haven't heard about hkm in a while, also I am not sure about this but I think he might have been in a movie in mid 1980s called "The Last Dragon" About a Chinese teacher teaching Bruce Leroy a guy who is at the last of a circle of trainging and a medallion supposedly from Bruce Lee. He is a little kid but when he is showing his Ki almost at the end of the movie.
@@SK-jd6gg I have The Last Dragon on dvd
Vaniller rice?
I love that Pitbull is doing this throwback! Nice work
I wish the third movie had continued where movie 2 left off and revealed TGRI as being Utroms.
As a kid, I was the same way: liked part 2 better than 1, then got older and swapped my preference.
I had every single ninja turtle action figure and vehicle for the first few years they came out, including the squishy headed original turtles and Shredder. Once TMNT 2 came out, it was almost impossible to find Super Shredder in stores. My mom was a trooper though and found one someone had hidden in Toys R Us, on the very back of the shelf behind a crap ton of other figures.
She didn’t normally go out of her way to get toys, but my brother and I were bonkers for the turtles and, outside of holidays, we did all our chores on the farm to get our allowance, which allowed both of us to get a new turtle each week.
Before the turtles came along, we just had blocks of scrap wood that we had to pretend were Transformers or GI Joe. We didn’t have shit for toys, other than a few stuffed animals and a handful of He-Man figures. We just made do for the most part. I think she realized we were very keen to do our chores at the prospect of getting a new turtle, so it was just easier to keep us in line, as long as she had a carrot to dangle.
Certainly made holiday shopping easy for the most part. Just find anything ninja turtle and we’d be happy...lol...and now I’ve been able to share my turtle fun with my daughter and, at 5, she’s a fan too...of the older stuff.
are you me? and I don't remember being you?
not only did I get the standard purple suited version, but I also got the special black suited version that you had to send in clippings from Chef Boyardee for! And I still have them both
Actually I have more info on the subplot on the revelation of the Ooze, yes we were going to get the Utrom but here's the rest of it.
You remember the end fight in which Kino kicks the canister of Ooze away from Shredder and Professor Jordan Perry just gets it and leaves? Well it was going to reveal in a scene in which he's in the restroom and he opens up his shirt and a brain creature is inside his chest cavity, revealing that Jordan Perry is actually a Utrom from Dimension X.
Heck when the Turtles are in TGRI (instead of TCRI from the comics) if you pay attention to the entire lab specifically the center piece that is a glass pyramid, you can already see a Utrom in there.
It's a shame that the subplot was not further explored because they thought it was "too weird", if you want to watch a video on the subject The Old Turtle Den did a video on the deleted subplot.
Yes this is accurate. I heard about that sometime ago but I'd forgotten till you just reminded me. I really wish they would have taken the time and made it the way they originally planned! How great that would have been!
@@jayfonz5765 Right?! Kids would be talking about that ending and would convince their friends to tell their parents to see this movie, that means a sequel with the Turtles in space would've been epic.
Thank you for the information. I’ll check that video out.
1991 was "THIS" awesome time we will never get the pleasure to be in again
I just found your channel and I absolutely love it. Keep up the great work!
"I feel old now" - that's a MOOD.
Watched this movie so many times! Would love to see 10 things about the movie Ready To Rumble
Great breakdown of one of my favorite movies of all time! I remember seeing the trailer on tv and me and my mom went to Food Lion, (a grocery store) and I went to the magazine isle and to my surprise , they had the same Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2: Secret of the Ooze comic book novel you showed. I always thought it was a graphic novel. And my mom got it for me, I read the whole book the next day and when I finally saw the movie I thought the book was better. So I kinda saw the movie before it came out because of a rare find in that grocery store but besides that I was still ecstatic to see the move because that’s all me and my friends was talking about seeing. I remember how excited I was when I was going to see it. I remember going to school the next day and all me and my friends talked about was the movie. You did a awesome video and I really enjoyed it. Thanks for bringing back those memories. Keep up the great work! 👏🏾👏🏾👍🏾👍🏾👑🐢✊🏾
“TMNT III was my favorite” said the blind man
Vanilla Rice?!
The first movie is brilliant. Even as a kid seeing all these new, I couldn’t stomach either sequel. I’ve never seen either of them more than once.
Haha I keep hearing "Vaniller ice"
Love your Judge Judy tee!
When the Secret of the Ooze came out, we went to see the movie in the theater on opening day, and about two weeks later they sold a VHS tape about the making of the Vanilla Ice scene, which I talked my dad into buying for me, but he thought it was the actual movie. The picture used with Vanilla Ice surrounded by the Turtles was the video tape cover. My dad was upset when he saw that it was only ten minutes, and that it was just about five minutes of making it, and about four minutes of a music video with everyone in the movie, so there are actually two Vanilla Ice Go Ninja videos out there. My favorite quote from the making of video section was Vanilla Ice saying, “They told me the song had to be clean, you know, for the kids, which is me anyway, so…….”Then it cut to the filming of the song with all of the pelvic thrusts. Loved it at the time, now it’s just down right ridiculous, but nostalgia fixes my secret shame.
I always cherish the first one more than the second. The first movie was my first movie ever to watch in theaters (I was 6 years old then)
I still say that the first one is the only good Turtles movie to date.
You’re correct for doing so. At 43, I own the first film. I saw the sequels new and never bothered watching either of them more than once. I’ve never even considered watching the Bay films.
I'd say you're being awfully nice even calling the first one good. The movie shat all over what the Turtles were meant to be.
Jeff Spain, That might make it a bad adaptation. It doesn’t make it a bad movie. For those who have no experience with the source material, it doesn’t matter.
30 years ago? I saw that in the theater. I feel old now too, thanks Minty.
me too and i saw it the day before easter in theaters, which is today
Fun fact: I work as a toy designer in Chicago and had the honor of working on the Burger King Kids Meals toys for the Nickelodeon release of TMNT back in 2012. We were told not to show any pizza or weapons in the concepts we pitched to BK as the weapons would imply violence and pizza would imply junk food. Yes, you read that right, Burger King did not want to showcase “junk food” 😐
haha i had fun watching this man, you nailed it at the end when you talked about just staying true to your core fans instead of trying to please everyone. This same rationale could be applied to video games as well when they make sequels or changes/updates. Anyways good stuff me :D
*Thank you for doing a top 10 on this Minty*
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: The Secret of the Ooze s my all-time favorite TMT movie.
"I feel old now".... Same, Minty, same...
Hi mark, big fan! I've been watching your videos for a long time now! Really enjoy them! I'm from liverpool, and spent my youth absolutely loving everything about the 80s! Keep up the good work squire!!!👍👍👍😁😁