The funny thing is Durant left OKC because he wanted to play team ball with movement but got his championships and then forgot... How he got his championships. Now he is doing what he claimed he hated about basketball. I think Durant has been given to much credit for winning a couple championships on stacked teams.
Young NBA fans are always saying “KD is the GOAT because he’s tall and can shoot” or “KD could destroy all 90s/80s players” but they fail to realize that once the game gets physical, KD shrinks.
They was physical with him last year he dropped damn 50 in 2 games against the bucks…KD getting guarded by 2 or 3 long defenders ever possession what do you expect
Those are the oldest millennials. The generation is 16 years long. Someone born in '96 is a millennial and never saw 90s basketball. He didn't say all of us. His point is valid.
@@johndarius18 there’s a thing called TH-cam that has all the 90’s game in full. You can keep acting like 90’s players 💩 just don’t stink but they weren’t perfect at all.
I’m a millennial and I’m 27. I don’t consider his shot unguardable. We’ve seen his shot get blocked by a center on the Knicks, and of course Jason Tatum. I USED to think that he was literally unstoppable, but players are starting to really figure him out - and when you think about his game with the defensive schemes that cripple him, it actually takes very little to bother him. Now, if his shot was on point and his confidence wasn’t deflated, I think that Boston would be scrambling right now. But, that’s the point: hard, physical defense can impact his psyche, and then everything else falls apart. It’s wild to see.
@@Alex-vf9ur where did I state that they were. KD's my favorite player in the league right now. People just think he and Steph would mop off the floor with the guys in the 90s, when that's not the case.
@@johndarius18 when you say “someone born in 96 hasn’t seen 90’s basketball” it’s a total bs statement. A lot of people have watched the games they’re in good quality on the internet but more annoying is how you say it as if when you watch 90’s basketball your watching Gods who graced this earth and anyone who came before or after is soft and trash. They couldn’t shoot as good, the handle from 1-12 isn’t even close to now a days and a huge part of defense was what would now be considered a flagrant 2 foul. The game has evolved and is more skilled.
I know older folks like to blame millennial for everything, but we are the same age as KD. We loved defense, Artest, Ben Wallace, Tony Allen, Rondo, James Posey. Millennials are 30 now. Steph and KD entered the league when we were adults. Gen Z is who idolized them
@@PanteraEnjoyer If this what y'all call crucified ok. But Bron went thru way more than this after that Dallas series. Kevin Durant is getting the light version.
@@harshdeshpande3382 man stop it Rob would be ripping Steph if this was Steph and we both know he ain’t Lebron either so that sounds good but it doesn’t hold up to scrutiny.
KD is getting the "Curry treatment" and is struggling with it. When defenses swarmed Curry none of these media people had anything to say about all the doubles and triple teams on him.
@@ovoqwan Lebron dont get swarmed like that because of his elite playmaking and the fact he usually like playing with shooters. If you try to double Bron he just passes to an open ass shooter. Steph has 1 man on him at all times even if he doesnt have the ball because he moves so much lol
So what about me? I’m born in 1998, technically a millennials but I don’t remember the 90s and I refuse to be apart of generation z(don’t know what a vhs is, never seen a pay phone, sniff condoms, trying to doing the jerk of tik tok) it’s like 1996-1999 needs it own generational name
@@tmac731 you're a Gen Z stlll. Gen Z starts in 1996/97 don't get me wrong late 90s Gen Z and 2000s Gen Z are two different entities but you're a Gen Z still I feel you tho I'm born around the same time as you the way I spilt it up is if you can remember 9/11 you're a 90s Gen Z if you can't you're a 2000s Gen Z. Someone would say but you were 3-5 when 9/11 happened, to which I would respond that's how devastating/big 9/11 was
We millennials are always taking heat for Gen Z, that’s truly the old ppl’s go to move right there. Most millennials are in their late 30s and early 40s now…
Now that’s just silly. That’s the problem with you people now at days, there’s no medium. Either said player would get destroyed, or he would stomp out the competition.
you also couldn't play zone defense in jordan's era, that helped him tremendously, he even said he wouldn't have had the same career if teams were allowed to play zone
While Chris Broussard is sitting there saying “I don’t want to hear Millennials and Gen X people tell me……..” somebody needs to tell Chris that he is Gen X 🤦🏽♂️
I was at the Laker game when LeBron scored the easiest 56 points I've ever seen vs Golden State. 13 of his 17 FG's were uncontested layups or dunks. That ain't happening in the 90s. PERIOD!
Anyone who claims 2017 to 2019 GWS Team with KD would beat MJ's Bulls, think again...! If the Celtics is doing this to KD with their physical defense, imagine what the Bulls would do, damn...!
They are triple teaming him 😂. If you triple team him on golden state you got two of the greatest shooters ever on the court. KD getting that Steph treatment but got no one to give the ball to.
u guys dont understand the game. sir MJ only averaged 20ppg vs pistons because they werre physical which is weak play. iof they knnocked tatum around like that he would play well either
Bro it’s not that they are physical, they are double him every play. You can’t doing it with Steph and Klay on the court. Last year Milwaukee was beating him up and defend physical, but on single coverage and KD destroy Milwaukee. On golden state you can’t defend Kd like that for the other scorer on the court and how they move the ball on Golden state. Brooklyn has no system.
KD IS OVERATED AND IS EMOTIONAL. THIS IS THE SAME DUDE WHO SAID THAT HIS FEELINGS WERE HURT AFTER WHAT DRAYMOND GREEN SAID TO HIM . WHAT DO YOU THINK DENNIS RODMAN WOULD HAVE DONE TO HIM. KD IS SOFT AND HE IS BEING INTIMIDATED BY THE CELTICS STIFLING DEFENSE . HE WOULD HAVE NEVER SURVIVED IN THE 90S. STEPHEN CURRY IS GOING TO BE EXPOSED ALSO IF GOLDEN STATE MEETS THE BUCKS IN THE FINALS.
KD honestly would get hurt in the 80's and 90's. Slim build against the Mahorn, Oakley, Mason, Shaq, Rodman, Mourning, Ewing, Xman, Barkley. Sure he'd get his points but its going to be a long regular season for him. Not to mention the playoffs where the physicality will doubled since refs will really let you play.
@@gregorynkanzamazekele8298 I know my friend the reason people are saying some people can’t play in certain era based on their frame I just show you someone that played in previous era and do well and become and hall of famer.
@@ebedlouis8493 Reggie grew up in a physical era. Slim, sure but hard boned. Remember what Shaq said, we are a product of our environment. And KD's environment is well spaced, defense loose type of game.
@@Nitabita_ exactly! If I’m not mistaken millennials were born between 1980-1995 so all of us are old enough to have watched basketball in the 90s and 00s and we’re adults or teenagers when KD came into the league so we ain’t the ones talking that nonsense
I mean, he’s one of the top 5 scorers of all time. You can’t debate that part of his legacy. In terms of the “winning” aspect, all real basketball fans already knew those GSW rings don’t mean a damn thing
I don't think you know what Gen z is most of KD's fan are old head wasn't chris out here saying KD will score 40 points in game 2 and last time I checked skip and Steven A Smith were saying kd is the best player on the planet for the last 5
@@Metromania2022 LeBron didn't ruin anything Bro. LeBron did what was needed to actually compete. People can keep acting like those Spurs teams weren't full of stars. Like the Warriors teams weren't full of stars. Like the Celtics weren't full of stars. People only look at the names. People don't actually look at the team as a whole and their success. People need to stop following this narrative of LeBron hate. Dude is literally one of the best to ever do it. Let's appreciate we were able to watch. Just like we got to watch Jordan, Tyson, Woods, Jeter, Williams. LBJ is in the same category bro.
@@deon3133 no it wasn't. The same guys running the 80s were running the 90s. It was more teams so it wasn't as star studded on a few teams meaning lakers and Boston. The college game was great and sending in wonderful players.
It’s funny, everybody has talked down and said KD is a better scorer than guys like Lebron but the way guys are playing KD is nothing compared to how physical guys try to be with Lebron and he never folded the way KD has. Even that series against Dallas Lebron just shrank and couldn’t beat his own mental, it wasn’t due to being bullied. KD is literally being bullied.
@@chadwoff7892 not making the playoffs doesn’t mean you folded in the context he’s talking about come on bro use your brain that response made 0 sense. Everyone has missed the playoffs before if that’s the case every player to ever live has folded lol
When are y’all going to stop using millennials for the scapegoat. We are almost in our 30s and some in their 40s. You guys and other media need to be able to just say younger people. Cause it’s the Gen-z that don’t remember late 90s and early 2000s basketball and how physical it was.
Exactly, but it doesn’t matter to these older folks. They take shots at all generations besides theirs because their generation could do no wrong. Let them tell it
Not by himself. The Celtics have multiple great defenders and old staff that played with KD and against him. Rodman by himself isn't locking up kd up. People aren't giving credit to to the scouting of today.
Tony Allen did the exact same thing that these Celtics are doing which is roughing KD up and pushing you around. And it might be an unpopular opinion but that rough style of basketball shouldn’t be in the game anymore. Basketball is a finesse game of skill, not a show of who has the strongest arm like football. The Celtics are grabbing and knocking KD down because they know this is the only way to stop him. And it’s hella lame to me.
Fun fact. I have been hearing on some talk shows last few days that KD and Lebron cant carry teams any more because they old. Lebron is old I understand and a fact but KD is only 33. Same age Lebron was in 2018 when he carried those scrub Cavs to the finals. Lebron also had more miles on his legs when he was 33 and had a worse Cavs roster then KD has now with the nets. People need to stop defending KD. He must win this series or do not ever compare him to Lebron. KD just can't carry a bad or average team like Lebron did when he was 33 and isn't that guy in terms of leadership and putting a team on his back.
LeBron is obviously better than KD, but people need to stop comparing the 2018 East to the 2022 East. The 22 Bucks, 22 Celtics, 22 Sixers, 22 Heat, and 22 Nets would all easily handle the 2018 Cavs with LeBron. Who was the best team LeBron beat in 2018? Stop it. You sound stupid.
KD always had the talent and ability, the thing is he never got it done until he went to the warriors, and won’t win again. Idk how people have him Top 10 all time just based off ability and not achievements
KD worst game he scored 23 points in only two games 😆better than most players entire careers and KD has the best Playoffs Career than both Kobe and Lebron KD never missed the Playoffs even being in the West both Kobe and Lebron did
Ridiculous statement. Players are better today than they were back then lol. The 90s don't even know what an Embiid or a Giannis is. Put the players today back in the 90's and they'd average 40 to 50. Jordan was playing against part time repairmen and cable installers.
@@tari8134 shooting a bunch of 3s makes you better? 90s players were way way way better mid range shooters and low post players and had better foot work and were swol and physical. You have no idea how strength and physicality can intimidate finesse players
@@RoninBgk Lol. I can tell you mf's know nothing about basketball. In what way are the players you mentioned more skilled than Giannis or Embiid. Is shaq gonna guard embiid at the 3, nope.
No one talks about the huge advances in sports nutrition, training, recovery and medicine that modern day athletes have access to. Imagine if MJ had the same advantages? He would obviously be an improved version of himself.
@@chicob.3906 he did have the money to do it, he just didn’t have access to the same technology….sports medicine has improved vastly since Jordan’s time which was literally only 20 years ago
I personally think all that is propaganda. I dont think any of that new age medicine, training etc is improving players as much as you think. The increase is so miniscule its hardly noticeable. If theres anything thats making these guys big and strong, its the roided foods today....imo. Theres still PLENTY of guys who arent nearly as athletic as those who came before. Theres been no other wilt chamberlain...despite technological advances in medicine and health. Training is training. Fancy new equipment wont make you anymore stronger than a jungle gym at Venice beach.
@@BUDOKAIultimate3 I agree. I truly think that LBJ started The 1-2 million dollar propaganda cause that is when he started PEDs and he needed a built in excuse for why he magically bulked up before Miami and why he’s had no major injuries. Miami is when he started going bald, btw- which is a PED sign, as well as the infamous cramp game. to put out
Thats the difference between guys like KD/Kawhi and guys like Kobe and Jordan. They had the stamina to continue scoring when they needed to do so against defenses that were athletic and physical. Which is why their career high is 81 and 69 versus 45 and 55 for Kawhi and KD. Physical/mental endurance and stamina is an underrated part of the game.
@Lee Keele Demar Derozan shooting 50% now. Back in Toronto, Derozan had worst efficiency than Kobe cause he shot under 45% shooting way less 3 on a below average 3 point % rate. If Derozan can shoot 50%, then Kobe can shoot 50% if he played today with the floor spread with 3 point shooters. Miss me with that efficiency stuff. Kobe did it on both ends & won 5 rings. Kobe killed the narrative of winning with Shaq by winning 2 rings without Shaq. When will KD kill his narrative of winning his 2 fake rings in GS where it was the weakest move ever by leading a team on his own like Kobe did getting his 2 rings. I doubt KD will kill the narrative cause it looks like he will get swept in the first round
@Lee Keele Stop it. Kobe is clearly better than Kawhi and KD. Kawhi has no longevity; and Kobe makes up for his lack of efficiency against KD with his first team all nba defense (something KD has never even came close to). Plus Kobe's prime TS was roughly 57-58% which is fairly efficient; and his career TS is 55% which is still fairly efficient.
Kawahi and KD are playing with more scorer friendly rules. Kobe played in an era with less spacing and true centers that clogged the lane- not even mentioning the physicality. You really can’t use his field goal percentage against him as a comparison.
@@anthonycelestin3559 so silly. Defence counts. FG% today are higher because the rules have changed and weakend Defence. None of today's players would have FG% this high under 80's and 90's rules. Yesterday's stars would have higher FG% under today's rules. Can u imagine Reggie Miller, Craig Hodges under today's rules
Lebron wouldn't have been as great either trying to operate in the paint against real centers and power forwards. He would have had to get a jumper much sooner than year 15.
@@whereuwannabe7796 Bruh I am not even a LeBron supporter but I've never seen a person just born to play the game of Basketball like LeBron. The only person that comes close is Shaq.
@@KDKlive made several wat? Cause he didn’t get to the finals til they changed the rule for Jordan. & KD did get 27, I mean it was ugly but aye he still damn near got 30 plus shot 20 free throws, so he got to the line just like Jordan
@@deon3133 true but even though zone/help defense was illegal on paper in the 90s it was still being played….not only is there plenty of footage of teams in the 90s very clearly and blatantly playing zone, there’s also plenty of news articles written at the time talking abt the prevalence of zone defense in the nba also side note the Jordan rules were literally just a bunch of zone defense schemes but with extra physicality added in
@@AceTheCap823 can u reference me a significant game in the 90s when they let them play illegal defense, and I'm not talking about missed calls I Wana see the refs let them play illegal defense like u said
@@AceTheCap823 zone defense came in the 2000s. I was watching 90s basketball it wasn’t no zone. And you do know jordan played in the 80s era also. And he didn’t do nothing until the bad boys and Celtics got old. Cause jordan was a first round exit every year until pippen came along. A lot of the 90s players would of got exposed in todays nba.
It was a joy to hear Kittles get on the line. One of my favorites since his high school days at St. Augustine and college years at Villanova. 💯👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾🔥🔥🔥
the entire celtics team had the green light from silver to gang bang on kd. that game was the proof how players can fix on command. lmao. that defense looked like the 80s defense not 90s.
There are two reasons why Rob and Chris are right about this. One is the physicality of that game. The other is the passion that teams had for defense. Teams were insulted to let opposing teams score 115 on them on the road, let alone come into their house. There was a pure passion about defense that is barely existent today. Durant against those Bulls, they'd be salivating to humiliate him. You would think he murdered their entire family, with the sort of defense they would play on him. Pippen would guard him full court and then drop 25 on him at the other end. Rodman would guard him for fun. And the Bulls were far from the only team with that mentality.
That’s nice that you guys recognize this, but they literally clobber Lebron and the man gets no calls. However he is still putting up these ridiculous numbers at age 37. So thanks for proving Durant couldn’t handle the beating that Lebron endured.
@@deeperson7711 that he does however look at his avg drives a game to the goal. He barely gets a whistle. They could literally give him the f5 or rock bottom and the ref won’t call it. They look at Durant Steph giannis and Embid funny and sirens go off if there was a raid.
KD’s body would have been literally broken in the 90s. Rodman would have driven him crazy AND shut him down. KD can’t get his body strong even with all the advantages of today’s game.
The Nets should run more stuff to get Durant open. They should run some pics, or put Durant on the post. The Nets look like 5 guys just standing around.
Thays true. Plus the court wasn't spread out as much.. more 3point shootera today = easier driving lanes for a Chef Curry/Tony Parker floater.. that same floater was met by 2-3 players and a Barkley elbow.
Bruh its illegal to play defense now. The game helps the offense a lot. The lightest touch of the player by the defense results in personal foul 95% of the time. Its illegal to play defense now.
@@erikpuka2627 so watching this playoffs thats what u see is touch fouls stop with the nostalgia bullshit and stop lying am 56 been watching basketball since the 70 so I know it's either y jus watch highlights or u got a nostalgia problem
Bronsexuals pushing the narrative that this era of players are so skilled yadayadayada. Put these set of players in a physical era they would struggle badly. We saw MJ up his scoring in the playoffs while these guys scoring averages dropping 5-10 points in the playoffs It's why I laugh when people claim the 2017 Warriors would beat the 1996 Bulls. The game is so different and the physicality. They just won't be able to cope
@Beery It wasn't a travesty Iggy being inserted in the lineup changed everything and his points between those last games was about the same. And Klay and Draymond had alot to do with that run along with Harrison Barnes.
23 points in two games “ struggled “ yall are hilarious just shows how great he is had more points on his worst games than majority of the league avaraging for their entire Career
@@fashionlife5348 most of those points were at the foul line. Gotta look deeper into overall point totals.Literally, damn near half are that the line. 11 out of 25, to be exact 🙃
The point is that with hand checking, the culture of foul calls in the 90's, and the elite defenders of the 90's and 80's KD's field goal % and his efficiency would be significantly lower and his stats would resemble stars from that era.
I watched both eras of the game dating back to 82 till the present. First of all, there's no right or wrong answer to whether if this generation could play back in the 80' 90's era or vice versa. The game just changed which made this generation of ball players adapt more till this style of play. So who's to say that KD wouldn't adapt just like Michael Jordan had to do. He just didn't have a reason to. Just like some of the 80's 90's players would have to be in a lot better shape to keep up with the style of play this generation plays, which is a lot of run & gun play. There's a lot of players from the past couldn't run up & down the court without getting fatigued back then. While centers would punish down low this generational center would thrash the majority of them off the dribble & from the outside. So it goes both ways. Most people are gonna say their era was the best era. Fact is stars would adapt whether it's past or present. If Manute Bol could survive that era then KD MOST DEFINITELY could survive that era.
THANK YOU!!! Why are we pretending that todays players would be the EXACT same player they are today if they played in the 80s? They’d play the game like it’s played in that time. Vice versa! This is an empty debate. Like if I was in the 80s , I prolly wouldn’t be wearing Yeezys. Why? Because they didn’t exist 😂 I’d wear whatever they wore in the 80s. Duh.
KD, Curry, and LeBron would still be able to survive and thrive in the 80s and 90s, but their games would definitely have to make some adjustments. They would all have to utilize the mid and low post more and they would have to take care of the ball more and cut those turnovers down because it was even EASIER to turn the ball over and have the ball stripped from you back then than it is now. They can still thrive off 3-point shooting, but having great rebounders down low and good screen setters would be crucial. 3 point shooting definitely spaces out the floor no question, but people also have to remember that elite defensive teams back then used to run very physical full-court presses to slow the game down. That would GREATLY cut transition and logo 3-point shots down.
that's why i always have montana over brady. the hit montana took in the 90's championship game was a 100% legal hit and was common. it was hard to be quarterback back then.
You crazy. It was easier to have dynasties back then because of no cap. The stats will favor today’s obvious favor today’s qb, but it was easier to keep a strong team together for consistency and dominance. 49ers, cowboys, steelers, raiders, etc. there’s only been two since the cap and it’s held by tom brady.
I don’t care what anyone says Montana is the best QB I’ve ever seen and Brady is the second best. And no one can change my mind. Montana 11 touchdowns no interceptions. 4 Super Bowls no losses.
Chris and Rob acting like they ain’t picked the Nets even after losing game 2. Chris was out there showing a very small sample size No context stat of how KD responds after bad game 1. Now he realizes his picks ain’t gone hit for 3 years in a row so wants to use KD to make another point and defend the 90s era which help defends Jordan. They acting like Jordan ain’t one of those guys that also went 0/11 in a second half of playoff game
I don't want to hear old people say that"nobody could gaurd Micheal Jordan in today's era ...and he would have average 40".No he can't .It's basketball with different set of skills.Its not rugby it's basketball...u score by putting ball in the basket no matter the distance.
I agree. Jordan would average 50, not 40 in the current era. You've obviously not watched the games live. It's not even close between KD and Jordan. Even Reggie Miller was a stronger scorer than KD. With today's rules, Jordan would average 50 against a team full of Draymonds.
Kyrie I think the fasting has an effect depending on the time. Game 1 started 3:30 so he probably had more energy compared to game 2 which was at 7 ish. In the last hour you feel the energy drop more
Prisoner of the moment? Multiple failures in OKC. HE BEEN STRUGGLING, AND HE CAN’T EVEN STAY HEALTHY. He’s a weak/ skinny 7ft guard with no post game at all. Never been clutch, can’t lead a team. The boy had to join prime Steph, Klay, & Draymond to win vs. a weak 2018 Cavs team, a hurt Kawhi in ‘17, down 3-2 vs. Houston until Chris Paul got hurt.
What LeBron James started is coming to an end. These new good teams are not filled with superstars chasing rings. And Golden State Toronto and Milwaukee have been the only teams to do it the right way as far as winning a ring.
@@kentonohio7614 lol what superteam goes to 2 Finals and wins 1 chip tho?? If tht case the 00s Pistons were a superteam 😂🤦🏽♂️ Besides my point was the GM put Celtics together and they were past their prime unlike Heat/Cavs Bron 2nd stint/Warriors with KD who imo are the only superteams in history because multiple stars colluded to play with each other in their prime. Teams tht draft their stars and sign role players aren't superteams imo especially when i never heard the term superteam until Bron went to Miami 🤷🏽♂️
Not these old heads using a bad playoff series to boost the 90s era..KD is just having a bad series..this doesn’t mean anything about the 90s. Plus these defensive schemes the Celtics are using would be illegal in the 90s
Do people know that the "millennials" are in their 30's now? I feel like old people just say millennial like it's forever supposed to mean 16-22 year olds. That is Gen Z now.
if a young Celtics team could do that to him with no championships what hell you think the 90s Bulls who 3peated twice would do to him lmfaoo youngsters 😂😂😂
So 2 bad games and now anyone could guard him. It’s so crazy how far these 90s lovers go to discredit new school basketball. It comes off as jealousy to me
No not anybody can guard kd. But the point is you’re watching a team do it in the modern game where it’s easier to score. In the 90s we would’ve had more games like this. He’d still be amazing
@@katlegomoatshe1312 my main point is to point out the extent 90s lovers go to to discredit the new gen. It happens both ways but it’s way more extreme from them
I like how y’all skated by the LeBron physicality conversation, y’all know LeBron could easily overpower most of those 90s guys. It would actually make him a better defender, cuz now LeBron can use his strength to hand check you to death.
This argument goes both ways. The guys in the 90’s would still struggle to gaurd guys today because they couldnt be as physical. Common fouls back then are now flagrant 2 and ejections. You cant hand check guys. Chris shoots his own argument down when he goes into football and says you cant judge the old quarterbacks harshly because the recievers now can run free and the quarterbacks cant be hit. Well that makes defense harder to play in this era. This is why it is impossible to compare players from different eras. It is literally different rules they play by.
People take the position of listing attributes to justify someone's greatness. "LeBron James is 6'8" 250lbs, he's unstoppable" but LeBron doesn't use his size when it counts, he chooses to pass. And he can be stopped... ask the Spurs. KD and his fans seem to think his skill is so far beyond anyone else that he's undoubtedly the best. But if he was 6'6" that wouldn't be the case. You have to produce. You can be capable of being the G.O.A.T. Of being unguardable. Of being a better scorer than Jordan. But you have to then accomplish it. KD is more skilled than Giannis and thinks Giannis shouldn't be nowhere compared to him. But what Giannis did last year was more impressive than anything KD has done. And he has 2 back to back MVPs in his pocket.
I hate this younger generation, people throw the word GOAT around for any great player. There is no GOAT in this era. Just enjoy the game and stop thinking about legacy.
If the NBA officiated the same all year around a lot of these conversations about current players being so much better than past players wouldn't be the same.
The reason why KD is struggling because he has the wrong curry on his team and he has the wrong Steve As a coach.
Lmao now THIS is funny.
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Hahahhah
Your telling the truth kyrie is a joke.
Well done😄
The funny thing is Durant left OKC because he wanted to play team ball with movement but got his championships and then forgot... How he got his championships. Now he is doing what he claimed he hated about basketball. I think Durant has been given to much credit for winning a couple championships on stacked teams.
That's coaching
That's a fact.
@@videovaulttv1 definitely coaching.
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It is coaching, but we’re talking about a 15 year, 2x FMVPs and champ, league MVP vet. So no….we have to hold him accountable.
Young NBA fans are always saying “KD is the GOAT because he’s tall and can shoot” or “KD could destroy all 90s/80s players” but they fail to realize that once the game gets physical, KD shrinks.
He ain’t got any physical muscle that’s the problem he’s so damn lanky
They was physical with him last year he dropped damn 50 in 2 games against the bucks…KD getting guarded by 2 or 3 long defenders ever possession what do you expect
Larry bird was around 6’10” and could shoot. Many players said that he was 6’10”.
@@ChopDaDon nope. He said the Bucks gave him lots of space and said KD cannot beat him by themselves so it was easy for him to go off
@@jeromegarner7196 He was. And could shoot and was a better player than Durant.
Millennials are almost 40 years old, please use the correct terminology. Gen Z is who you should be referring to.
Those are the oldest millennials. The generation is 16 years long. Someone born in '96 is a millennial and never saw 90s basketball. He didn't say all of us. His point is valid.
@@johndarius18 there’s a thing called TH-cam that has all the 90’s game in full. You can keep acting like 90’s players 💩 just don’t stink but they weren’t perfect at all.
I’m a millennial and I’m 27. I don’t consider his shot unguardable. We’ve seen his shot get blocked by a center on the Knicks, and of course Jason Tatum. I USED to think that he was literally unstoppable, but players are starting to really figure him out - and when you think about his game with the defensive schemes that cripple him, it actually takes very little to bother him. Now, if his shot was on point and his confidence wasn’t deflated, I think that Boston would be scrambling right now. But, that’s the point: hard, physical defense can impact his psyche, and then everything else falls apart. It’s wild to see.
@@Alex-vf9ur where did I state that they were. KD's my favorite player in the league right now. People just think he and Steph would mop off the floor with the guys in the 90s, when that's not the case.
@@johndarius18 when you say “someone born in 96 hasn’t seen 90’s basketball” it’s a total bs statement. A lot of people have watched the games they’re in good quality on the internet but more annoying is how you say it as if when you watch 90’s basketball your watching Gods who graced this earth and anyone who came before or after is soft and trash. They couldn’t shoot as good, the handle from 1-12 isn’t even close to now a days and a huge part of defense was what would now be considered a flagrant 2 foul. The game has evolved and is more skilled.
I know older folks like to blame millennial for everything, but we are the same age as KD. We loved defense, Artest, Ben Wallace, Tony Allen, Rondo, James Posey. Millennials are 30 now. Steph and KD entered the league when we were adults. Gen Z is who idolized them
No, millenials are my age 40.
@@tfive24 calm down, its a range lol
@@tfive24 the oldest millennials, yes. Those are them near gen x-ers. There are millennials as young as 28 right now too.
The Celtics would have repeated if they kept Tony Allen 💯
@@tfive24 this further proves my point. Your old enough to remember basketball before steph curry
Man, they don’t have that same energy for KD when he’s playing like ass. These two games would be remembered forever for Lebron 😂
I think that mostly is due to him being constantly compared to Jordan.
kd isnt called the goat, and he is getting crucified rn bud
As if KD constantly gets mentioned in the conversation with Jordan. Think a little before you think you made a smart point
@@PanteraEnjoyer If this what y'all call crucified ok. But Bron went thru way more than this after that Dallas series. Kevin Durant is getting the light version.
@@Nikketmzee fr lmao and ppl still slandering kd everywhere so I don't get what they mean by hes not getting blame
If this was Lebron…Rob would be ripping him apart
Yea cos LeBron is a much better player and better players get more criticism when they play bad
Bron has went through this but jus a lil worst in Dallas 2011
@@MacManDrew that was 11 years ago and he got absolutely destroyed all summer for it
@@harshdeshpande3382 man stop it Rob would be ripping Steph if this was Steph and we both know he ain’t Lebron either so that sounds good but it doesn’t hold up to scrutiny.
@@harshdeshpande3382 I Kno, KD hasn't had that moment but he is bad right now series not over
KD is getting the "Curry treatment" and is struggling with it. When defenses swarmed Curry none of these media people had anything to say about all the doubles and triple teams on him.
BINGO you nailed it
Lebron*
@@ovoqwan Lebron dont get swarmed like that because of his elite playmaking and the fact he usually like playing with shooters. If you try to double Bron he just passes to an open ass shooter. Steph has 1 man on him at all times even if he doesnt have the ball because he moves so much lol
Curry hits the weights, he muscled up to cope with physical play years ago. Durant is a walking stick, he's too fragile.
@@fmvp6892 not to mention LeBron is more physical than just about any player.
I have to give credit to the Celtics there defense is for real. Also credit to the referees for letting them play.
Millennials are old enough to remember the 90s Chris, that's a damn Gen Z argument brother.
So what about me? I’m born in 1998, technically a millennials but I don’t remember the 90s and I refuse to be apart of generation z(don’t know what a vhs is, never seen a pay phone, sniff condoms, trying to doing the jerk of tik tok) it’s like 1996-1999 needs it own generational name
@@tmac731 you're a Gen Z stlll. Gen Z starts in 1996/97 don't get me wrong late 90s Gen Z and 2000s Gen Z are two different entities but you're a Gen Z still
I feel you tho I'm born around the same time as you the way I spilt it up is if you can remember 9/11 you're a 90s Gen Z if you can't you're a 2000s Gen Z. Someone would say but you were 3-5 when 9/11 happened, to which I would respond that's how devastating/big 9/11 was
I was born in 94 not all of us remember the 90s in fact most of us probably don't
We millennials are always taking heat for Gen Z, that’s truly the old ppl’s go to move right there. Most millennials are in their late 30s and early 40s now…
I only remember 97-99 and barely. I was born in 94
I'm a Millennial and I agree I
honestly I never thought KD would survive in the tough eras
Now that’s just silly. That’s the problem with you people now at days, there’s no medium. Either said player would get destroyed, or he would stomp out the competition.
Actually I agree. He won’t survive
Hand checking and defensive 3secs are two rule changes that helps players today...
You are the first person I’ve seen in the past 10 years to point out the defensive 3 second rule. It is the worst rule created in NBA history.
@@PhilPeeVa you think so why?
@@PhilPeeVa 3 sec in the key was there since the 80’s.
@@weightpushweight5769 offensives 3 seconds not defensive 🤦🏾♂️
you also couldn't play zone defense in jordan's era, that helped him tremendously, he even said he wouldn't have had the same career if teams were allowed to play zone
While Chris Broussard is sitting there saying “I don’t want to hear Millennials and Gen X people tell me……..” somebody needs to tell Chris that he is Gen X 🤦🏽♂️
Lol, yup. He should have said Gen Z
I thought I miss heard that🤣🤣🤣
All this gen x gen z gen ppp is getting confusing 🤣
I thought he would of been considered a baby boomer because he's in his late 50s 🤔
@@Whyypreeeeeeeeee Chris is early 50s. Rob Parker is the Boomer.
I was at the Laker game when LeBron scored the easiest 56 points I've ever seen vs Golden State. 13 of his 17 FG's were uncontested layups or dunks. That ain't happening in the 90s. PERIOD!
All cap....
Lebron is 280 6 8 lean muscle … he will survive n score in any era!!!
@@mrmoe5440 He would but it wouldn't be easy like today. He would get cracked at the rim.
@@mrmoe5440 hell yeah , lebron score so many points a game winner 3pointer in 4th wtr againts pelicans and put the lakers in playinn
@@mrmoe5440 true he would score but we all know he would’ve caught a few elbows to the face or ribs as he went up in the 0
90’s
If Giannis wins another Ring, Giannis moves above KD on MY All-Time list.
To me Gianis is better than KD his time g worth more than KD stacked team rings
@@onionrovirosa correct
Then you’re list would be wrong
I think he moves ahead of Steph and Kd.he’d be right behind Hakeem
Easily
Hearing Kittles talk about what Ben Simmons returning was going to do is hilarious.
Anyone who claims 2017 to 2019 GWS Team with KD would beat MJ's Bulls, think again...!
If the Celtics is doing this to KD with their physical defense, imagine what the Bulls would do, damn...!
They are triple teaming him 😂. If you triple team him on golden state you got two of the greatest shooters ever on the court. KD getting that Steph treatment but got no one to give the ball to.
@@princetanuedavid501 If they triple teaming him, then he still at fault because 2 people open...
u guys dont understand the game. sir MJ only averaged 20ppg vs pistons because they werre physical which is weak play. iof they knnocked tatum around like that he would play well either
Bro it’s not that they are physical, they are double him every play. You can’t doing it with Steph and Klay on the court. Last year Milwaukee was beating him up and defend physical, but on single coverage and KD destroy Milwaukee. On golden state you can’t defend Kd like that for the other scorer on the court and how they move the ball on Golden state. Brooklyn has no system.
KD IS OVERATED AND IS EMOTIONAL. THIS IS THE SAME DUDE WHO SAID THAT HIS FEELINGS WERE HURT AFTER WHAT DRAYMOND GREEN SAID TO HIM . WHAT DO YOU THINK DENNIS RODMAN WOULD HAVE DONE TO HIM. KD IS SOFT AND HE IS BEING INTIMIDATED BY THE CELTICS STIFLING DEFENSE . HE WOULD HAVE NEVER SURVIVED IN THE 90S. STEPHEN CURRY IS GOING TO BE EXPOSED ALSO IF GOLDEN STATE MEETS THE BUCKS IN THE FINALS.
That’s why I respect Reggie miller he had the attitude to match his style
Hmmm
He constantly came off screens, which the nets need to do and cut as well
@@chrisisslick Exactly
@@chrisisslick definitely but this day and time it’s a pick to set you up with a one on one with a big man or just try to cross your man up and shoot
Reggie was a beast. He use to give Mike real problems.
KD honestly would get hurt in the 80's and 90's. Slim build against the Mahorn, Oakley, Mason, Shaq, Rodman, Mourning, Ewing, Xman, Barkley. Sure he'd get his points but its going to be a long regular season for him. Not to mention the playoffs where the physicality will doubled since refs will really let you play.
Exactly
I don’t think he would get hurt because he was slim. Reggie miller was slim too
@@ebedlouis8493 Miller Was a shooter scoring most of the time outside the paint.Miller was not drivin that much.
@@gregorynkanzamazekele8298 I know my friend the reason people are saying some people can’t play in certain era based on their frame I just show you someone that played in previous era and do well and become and hall of famer.
@@ebedlouis8493 Reggie grew up in a physical era. Slim, sure but hard boned. Remember what Shaq said, we are a product of our environment. And KD's environment is well spaced, defense loose type of game.
dude it's not Millennials.. most of us say Jordan is the goat.. you mean Gen z says that
I wish they would stop saying Millennials…we’re all almost 40…
Don’t hold your breaths, these old folks act like their generation was perfect so they take shots at every generation other than theirs
@@Nitabita_ I’m only 28 the generation was mad long
@@Nitabita_ exactly! If I’m not mistaken millennials were born between 1980-1995 so all of us are old enough to have watched basketball in the 90s and 00s and we’re adults or teenagers when KD came into the league so we ain’t the ones talking that nonsense
@Chase AReal1 No, 26-41. The “millennial” generation is 1981-1996.
Somebody tell K.D to hit the weight room he don't work out he's the same weight now as when he got drafted
All he does is smoke weed
It's too late.. he should have started years ago
If he put down the bong and hit the gym half as hard as Giannis, he would be the undisputed best player easily.
That's a Gen Z argument but go on
It's about time we reexamined KD's legacy
Way overdue. The way he casually ruined the league. And the fact nowadays he tell people to get over his golden state tenure 😂😂
I mean, he’s one of the top 5 scorers of all time. You can’t debate that part of his legacy. In terms of the “winning” aspect, all real basketball fans already knew those GSW rings don’t mean a damn thing
I don't think you know what Gen z is most of KD's fan are old head wasn't chris out here saying KD will score 40 points in game 2 and last time I checked skip and Steven A Smith were saying kd is the best player on the planet for the last 5
@@abdulclutch4509 Ruined the league? Lebron ruined the league buddy.
@@Metromania2022 LeBron didn't ruin anything Bro. LeBron did what was needed to actually compete. People can keep acting like those Spurs teams weren't full of stars. Like the Warriors teams weren't full of stars. Like the Celtics weren't full of stars. People only look at the names. People don't actually look at the team as a whole and their success. People need to stop following this narrative of LeBron hate. Dude is literally one of the best to ever do it. Let's appreciate we were able to watch. Just like we got to watch Jordan, Tyson, Woods, Jeter, Williams. LBJ is in the same category bro.
Millennials were around in the 90s to witness it ourselves.
Lmao them players could play in todays game. 90s was ok. But the 80s were way tougher
Both them era's was weak compared to the 60s
@@deon3133 no it wasn't. The same guys running the 80s were running the 90s. It was more teams so it wasn't as star studded on a few teams meaning lakers and Boston. The college game was great and sending in wonderful players.
Millennial could understand at age 3 or 7?
It’s funny, everybody has talked down and said KD is a better scorer than guys like Lebron but the way guys are playing KD is nothing compared to how physical guys try to be with Lebron and he never folded the way KD has. Even that series against Dallas Lebron just shrank and couldn’t beat his own mental, it wasn’t due to being bullied. KD is literally being bullied.
KD out there looking like Brad Sellers💯
Lol he hasn't folded the man isn't even in the playoffs wtf you talking about!
@@chadwoff7892 not making the playoffs doesn’t mean you folded in the context he’s talking about come on bro use your brain that response made 0 sense. Everyone has missed the playoffs before if that’s the case every player to ever live has folded lol
Lebron folded vs JJ Barrera..so stop with the lies.
Please don’t talk about lebum , he ain’t no different,plus kd is better than leflop
When are y’all going to stop using millennials for the scapegoat. We are almost in our 30s and some in their 40s. You guys and other media need to be able to just say younger people. Cause it’s the Gen-z that don’t remember late 90s and early 2000s basketball and how physical it was.
Wasnt that narrative that KD is unguardable started by the media and these experts anyways? So they should complain about their collegues rather
Exactly, but it doesn’t matter to these older folks. They take shots at all generations besides theirs because their generation could do no wrong. Let them tell it
Rodman would've had no problem with KD. Change my mind.
Not by himself. The Celtics have multiple great defenders and old staff that played with KD and against him. Rodman by himself isn't locking up kd up. People aren't giving credit to to the scouting of today.
@Beery stop underrating evolution it's undefeated like father time that's his brother
Idk about Rodman but pippen would’ve had kd in a straight jacket
I remember Cp3 and Tony Allen locking up KD when he was in OKC. Once you get very physical with KD, he struggles
T.A was a true lockdown perimeter defender
Tony Allen did the exact same thing that these Celtics are doing which is roughing KD up and pushing you around. And it might be an unpopular opinion but that rough style of basketball shouldn’t be in the game anymore. Basketball is a finesse game of skill, not a show of who has the strongest arm like football. The Celtics are grabbing and knocking KD down because they know this is the only way to stop him. And it’s hella lame to me.
@@skillethead15WHATT?!?!?! it’s a mans game lol some physicality is good bra. Thats how you can truly separate the greats from the the legends
@@skillethead15 the hell 😂😂😂 refs are calling the fouls.. KD just shock ... This same thing happened in OKC
@@skillethead15 playing football style basketball & getting a little physical is completely different
Fun fact. I have been hearing on some talk shows last few days that KD and Lebron cant carry teams any more because they old. Lebron is old I understand and a fact but KD is only 33. Same age Lebron was in 2018 when he carried those scrub Cavs to the finals. Lebron also had more miles on his legs when he was 33 and had a worse Cavs roster then KD has now with the nets. People need to stop defending KD. He must win this series or do not ever compare him to Lebron. KD just can't carry a bad or average team like Lebron did when he was 33 and isn't that guy in terms of leadership and putting a team on his back.
Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LeBron is obviously better than KD, but people need to stop comparing the 2018 East to the 2022 East. The 22 Bucks, 22 Celtics, 22 Sixers, 22 Heat, and 22 Nets would all easily handle the 2018 Cavs with LeBron. Who was the best team LeBron beat in 2018? Stop it. You sound stupid.
he is not considered the goat (just by a very few), however i do agree the comparison with lebron is over. Also the nets should fire steve nash
Facts ssss
33 is still prime years technically
KD always had the talent and ability, the thing is he never got it done until he went to the warriors, and won’t win again. Idk how people have him Top 10 all time just based off ability and not achievements
2 rings, 2 Finals mvps, 4 scoring titles, 9x All NBA, 4 Finals appearances
KD has never been in the same class as Lebron and Kobe.
That's a fact. I'm not the biggest fan of neither on as players. But fact is fact Durant is not on their level.
KD worst game he scored 23 points in only two games 😆better than most players entire careers and KD has the best Playoffs Career than both Kobe and Lebron KD never missed the Playoffs even being in the West both Kobe and Lebron did
I''d take KD over Kobe. Kobe was just so inefficient. KD is incredibly efficient.
@@fashionlife5348 he’s not better than them
@@fashionlife5348 love how you forgot to mention joining a 73-9 team lol.
This shows that MJ is 🐐🐐🐐🐐
He is actually undervalued
Ridiculous statement. Players are better today than they were back then lol. The 90s don't even know what an Embiid or a Giannis is. Put the players today back in the 90's and they'd average 40 to 50. Jordan was playing against part time repairmen and cable installers.
@@tari8134 Shaq Hakeem David Robinson
The troll game is nice though
@@tari8134 shooting a bunch of 3s makes you better? 90s players were way way way better mid range shooters and low post players and had better foot work and were swol and physical. You have no idea how strength and physicality can intimidate finesse players
@@RoninBgk Lol. I can tell you mf's know nothing about basketball. In what way are the players you mentioned more skilled than Giannis or Embiid. Is shaq gonna guard embiid at the 3, nope.
@@kingroyalty8297 Having better basketball skills makes you a better player lol. I think you're the one that has no idea bro.
No one talks about the huge advances in sports nutrition, training, recovery and medicine that modern day athletes have access to. Imagine if MJ had the same advantages? He would obviously be an improved version of himself.
If MJ had 1-2 Mil to spend yearly on his health it would of been a wrap!
@@chicob.3906 he did have the money to do it, he just didn’t have access to the same technology….sports medicine has improved vastly since Jordan’s time which was literally only 20 years ago
I personally think all that is propaganda.
I dont think any of that new age medicine, training etc is improving players as much as you think. The increase is so miniscule its hardly noticeable.
If theres anything thats making these guys big and strong, its the roided foods today....imo.
Theres still PLENTY of guys who arent nearly as athletic as those who came before.
Theres been no other wilt chamberlain...despite technological advances in medicine and health.
Training is training.
Fancy new equipment wont make you anymore stronger than a jungle gym at Venice beach.
@@BUDOKAIultimate3 I agree. I truly think that LBJ started The 1-2 million dollar propaganda cause that is when he started PEDs and he needed a built in excuse for why he magically bulked up before Miami and why he’s had no major injuries.
Miami is when he started going bald, btw- which is a PED sign, as well as the infamous cramp game. to put out
@@AceTheCap823 nah he had the money he just chose to party n smoke them cigars
Thats the difference between guys like KD/Kawhi and guys like Kobe and Jordan. They had the stamina to continue scoring when they needed to do so against defenses that were athletic and physical. Which is why their career high is 81 and 69 versus 45 and 55 for Kawhi and KD. Physical/mental endurance and stamina is an underrated part of the game.
Lee Keele Kobe is better than KD and Kawhi, deal with it. Kobe never shot 32% in a playoff series like KD has, that’s just pathetic
@Lee Keele Demar Derozan shooting 50% now. Back in Toronto, Derozan had worst efficiency than Kobe cause he shot under 45% shooting way less 3 on a below average 3 point % rate. If Derozan can shoot 50%, then Kobe can shoot 50% if he played today with the floor spread with 3 point shooters. Miss me with that efficiency stuff. Kobe did it on both ends & won 5 rings. Kobe killed the narrative of winning with Shaq by winning 2 rings without Shaq.
When will KD kill his narrative of winning his 2 fake rings in GS where it was the weakest move ever by leading a team on his own like Kobe did getting his 2 rings. I doubt KD will kill the narrative cause it looks like he will get swept in the first round
@Lee Keele Stop it. Kobe is clearly better than Kawhi and KD. Kawhi has no longevity; and Kobe makes up for his lack of efficiency against KD with his first team all nba defense (something KD has never even came close to). Plus Kobe's prime TS was roughly 57-58% which is fairly efficient; and his career TS is 55% which is still fairly efficient.
Kawahi and KD are playing with more scorer friendly rules. Kobe played in an era with less spacing and true centers that clogged the lane- not even mentioning the physicality.
You really can’t use his field goal percentage against him as a comparison.
@@anthonycelestin3559 so silly. Defence counts. FG% today are higher because the rules have changed and weakend Defence. None of today's players would have FG% this high under 80's and 90's rules. Yesterday's stars would have higher FG% under today's rules. Can u imagine Reggie Miller, Craig Hodges under today's rules
The amount of times Durant has let me down at this point I don't believe he would've been a Superstar in the 90's. He's not LeBron
Lebron wouldn't have been as great either trying to operate in the paint against real centers and power forwards. He would have had to get a jumper much sooner than year 15.
Lebron would have dunked all on those 90s interior defenses.
@@whereuwannabe7796 Bruh I am not even a LeBron supporter but I've never seen a person just born to play the game of Basketball like LeBron. The only person that comes close is Shaq.
@Beerythats because everyone got out the way when lebron came through.
Ron artest clamped KD in 2010 playoffs tony Allen clamped him in 2013
Jj Barea clamped Bron in 2011
Bruce Bowen clamped him in 2007 as well. Got to keep that in mind.
@@erikpuka2627 facts but what that have to do with Kevin Durant
@@erikpuka2627 lmao in 2007 nobody gave the cavs a chance what the hell u talking about
Metta World War and the Grindfather.
@@erikpuka2627 Hahahaha! That's true about Barea.
Why is Rob Parker ALWAYS doing something extra while the podcast's going on? Makes me laugh every time. Lol
Watching this after KD had an even worse game … with 16 points … 😂
Imagine putting MJ Pippen Rodman and Harper changing all game on this guys 😂😂😂..MJ with the Jordan rules he still avg 30pts
MJ led the league in FT attempted and made several years with these same “Jordan Rules” 🤨😮💨
@@KDKlive made several wat? Cause he didn’t get to the finals til they changed the rule for Jordan. & KD did get 27, I mean it was ugly but aye he still damn near got 30 plus shot 20 free throws, so he got to the line just like Jordan
@@KDKlive thats because he knew how to play "And 1" a skill non existent in today's game.
he avg 37
@@jayzee316 no he would shrunk and Rodman would be living rent free in his head
people don't realize how hard 90's offense was with the defenders able to use hand checking.
Zone defense changed the game more than hand checking.
@@deon3133 true but even though zone/help defense was illegal on paper in the 90s it was still being played….not only is there plenty of footage of teams in the 90s very clearly and blatantly playing zone, there’s also plenty of news articles written at the time talking abt the prevalence of zone defense in the nba
also side note the Jordan rules were literally just a bunch of zone defense schemes but with extra physicality added in
@@AceTheCap823 yeah I don’t get where they say teams in the 80s and 90s didn’t play zone. And teams barley zone, they play man to man and hedge off.
@@AceTheCap823 can u reference me a significant game in the 90s when they let them play illegal defense, and I'm not talking about missed calls I Wana see the refs let them play illegal defense like u said
@@AceTheCap823 zone defense came in the 2000s. I was watching 90s basketball it wasn’t no zone. And you do know jordan played in the 80s era also. And he didn’t do nothing until the bad boys and Celtics got old. Cause jordan was a first round exit every year until pippen came along. A lot of the 90s players would of got exposed in todays nba.
I swear “millennials” is Chris’s favorite word in the English language 😂
“Play on” plays back then are considered Flagrant 1 in today’s game.
No duo is better at covering the NBA than Chris and Rob. Great segment. Agree 100%.
After the 70's the athletes got better. From the 80's in NFL and NBA is similar in skill set.
Nope I would say from 85-90 the skill set is similar because the early 80's is not the same as the early 90's
It was a joy to hear Kittles get on the line. One of my favorites since his high school days at St. Augustine and college years at Villanova. 💯👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾🔥🔥🔥
the entire celtics team had the green light from silver to gang bang on kd. that game was the proof how players can fix on command. lmao. that defense looked like the 80s defense not 90s.
There are two reasons why Rob and Chris are right about this. One is the physicality of that game. The other is the passion that teams had for defense. Teams were insulted to let opposing teams score 115 on them on the road, let alone come into their house. There was a pure passion about defense that is barely existent today. Durant against those Bulls, they'd be salivating to humiliate him. You would think he murdered their entire family, with the sort of defense they would play on him. Pippen would guard him full court and then drop 25 on him at the other end. Rodman would guard him for fun. And the Bulls were far from the only team with that mentality.
That’s nice that you guys recognize this, but they literally clobber Lebron and the man gets no calls. However he is still putting up these ridiculous numbers at age 37. So thanks for proving Durant couldn’t handle the beating that Lebron endured.
Those Lebron haters will not acknowledge that.
Lebron be clobbering defenders with all them elbows he be throwing when he drive
Lebron shoots way more jumpers than ever so he won’t get as many calls as her did when he was younger
@@deeperson7711 that he does however look at his avg drives a game to the goal. He barely gets a whistle. They could literally give him the f5 or rock bottom and the ref won’t call it. They look at Durant Steph giannis and Embid funny and sirens go off if there was a raid.
KD is the equivalent of yesteryear George Gervin.
Facts. He’s the 2000s archetype of gervin
YUP!!
Durant has the same weakness that nowitzki used to have
I think you guys should post the entire show of the odd couple, video.
Don’t put all Millennials in the same box 😂
KD’s body would have been literally broken in the 90s. Rodman would have driven him crazy AND shut him down. KD can’t get his body strong even with all the advantages of today’s game.
The Nets should run more stuff to get Durant open. They should run some pics, or put Durant on the post. The Nets look like 5 guys just standing around.
nash first year coach should ring a bell lol
Chris, you meant Gen Y. You and I both are Gen-X
Wasn't it harder to double team someone in the 90s because of illegal defense unlike how you can do it today.
Thays true. Plus the court wasn't spread out as much.. more 3point shootera today = easier driving lanes for a Chef Curry/Tony Parker floater.. that same floater was met by 2-3 players and a Barkley elbow.
@@dastellarnapster1652 quite watching highlights talking bout a barkely elbow
Bruh its illegal to play defense now. The game helps the offense a lot. The lightest touch of the player by the defense results in personal foul 95% of the time. Its illegal to play defense now.
Hell, the Hubie browns, the pat riley's were doubling Dr. J, Andrew toney like it was a disease....and this was the 80s folks!
@@erikpuka2627 so watching this playoffs thats what u see is touch fouls stop with the nostalgia bullshit and stop lying am 56 been watching basketball since the 70 so I know it's either y jus watch highlights or u got a nostalgia problem
Bronsexuals pushing the narrative that this era of players are so skilled yadayadayada. Put these set of players in a physical era they would struggle badly. We saw MJ up his scoring in the playoffs while these guys scoring averages dropping 5-10 points in the playoffs
It's why I laugh when people claim the 2017 Warriors would beat the 1996 Bulls. The game is so different and the physicality. They just won't be able to cope
All I know is that Steph has a ring without Durant but Durant has none without steph..... hmmmmm 🤔
The counter is Steph has no FMVP
@Beery It wasn't a travesty Iggy being inserted in the lineup changed everything and his points between those last games was about the same. And Klay and Draymond had alot to do with that run along with Harrison Barnes.
I think everyone suffers from being teammates with Westbrook.
KEVIN DURANT HAS NEVER BEEN PAST THE SECOND ROUND WITHOUT ANOTHER MVP ON HIS TEAM
This is the take I've been waiting for. Watching KD struggle with physicality now shows me there's no way he could have played with handchecking
23 points in two games “ struggled “ yall are hilarious just shows how great he is had more points on his worst games than majority of the league avaraging for their entire Career
Of course he could’ve played what are you smoking. so Kyrie had a great game 1. Could he had played with handchecking?
@@fashionlife5348 most of those points were at the foul line. Gotta look deeper into overall point totals.Literally, damn near half are that the line. 11 out of 25, to be exact 🙃
The point is that with hand checking, the culture of foul calls in the 90's, and the elite defenders of the 90's and 80's KD's field goal % and his efficiency would be significantly lower and his stats would resemble stars from that era.
@@dta1329 They keep fouling him harassing him
Rodman, Payton, Pippen, Jordan ,Dumars, would all give KD fits just to name a few.
I watched both eras of the game dating back to 82 till the present. First of all, there's no right or wrong answer to whether if this generation could play back in the 80' 90's era or vice versa. The game just changed which made this generation of ball players adapt more till this style of play. So who's to say that KD wouldn't adapt just like Michael Jordan had to do. He just didn't have a reason to. Just like some of the 80's 90's players would have to be in a lot better shape to keep up with the style of play this generation plays, which is a lot of run & gun play. There's a lot of players from the past couldn't run up & down the court without getting fatigued back then. While centers would punish down low this generational center would thrash the majority of them off the dribble & from the outside. So it goes both ways. Most people are gonna say their era was the best era. Fact is stars would adapt whether it's past or present. If Manute Bol could survive that era then KD MOST DEFINITELY could survive that era.
And manure was hitting threes too
THANK YOU!!! Why are we pretending that todays players would be the EXACT same player they are today if they played in the 80s? They’d play the game like it’s played in that time. Vice versa! This is an empty debate. Like if I was in the 80s , I prolly wouldn’t be wearing Yeezys. Why? Because they didn’t exist 😂 I’d wear whatever they wore in the 80s. Duh.
KD could survive that era but he wouldn’t be as efficient. I say the same for LeBron, Curry, Harden, etc.
KD, Curry, and LeBron would still be able to survive and thrive in the 80s and 90s, but their games would definitely have to make some adjustments. They would all have to utilize the mid and low post more and they would have to take care of the ball more and cut those turnovers down because it was even EASIER to turn the ball over and have the ball stripped from you back then than it is now. They can still thrive off 3-point shooting, but having great rebounders down low and good screen setters would be crucial. 3 point shooting definitely spaces out the floor no question, but people also have to remember that elite defensive teams back then used to run very physical full-court presses to slow the game down. That would GREATLY cut transition and logo 3-point shots down.
Surviving and dominating are 2 whole different things
my favorite line is "michael jordan was playing against plumbers" lol
He was that's why they had to beat Jordan up
that's why i always have montana over brady. the hit montana took in the 90's championship game was a 100% legal hit and was common. it was hard to be quarterback back then.
Yep alot of the offensive players in football and basketball benefits the rule changes
Stop it 🤣. Montana is not even top 3. Brady Manning and rodgers...
@@joniljoseph2934 No you stop it causal ...
You crazy. It was easier to have dynasties back then because of no cap. The stats will favor today’s obvious favor today’s qb, but it was easier to keep a strong team together for consistency and dominance. 49ers, cowboys, steelers, raiders, etc. there’s only been two since the cap and it’s held by tom brady.
I don’t care what anyone says Montana is the best QB I’ve ever seen and Brady is the second best. And no one can change my mind. Montana 11 touchdowns no interceptions. 4 Super Bowls no losses.
This is a 33 year old Durant after a ton of injuries.
There are some that could guard Kd for sure, but not many. He’s still a transcendent type of player that requires special attention to try to contain
Nah fam, KD way too small. Look at the 80s 90s stars. They were solid. LeBron types would do fine, not KD Steph and those fragile types
MOST FGA WITOUT MAKE IN A HALF IN THE PLAYOFFS LAST 25 YEARS
1.JOEL EMBIID 0-12
2.MJ 0-11
3. KD, JAMES HARDEN, VINCE CARTER, MICHAEL FINLEY 0-10
Im 32 years old and I have never heard anyone say “no one could guard kd in the 80/90s”. So whose saying it ??
The REAL Question is, Why do only the 2022 Celtics get to play 90's Defense?
Well. Said
Bc they're the only team with defenders capable
Miami looks good defensively
Remember in 2019 playoffs when Pat Bev was giving KD fits? Its more about KD not being a physical player than the era.
But that's the point most players are more finesse nowadays
KD droppes 50 on beverley tho 😂
Man you don't stop it with that bs like really kd is about to have a big game 3 and back to crickets it's goes again or should I say of great he is
Just a reminder, according to Rob a millennial is anyone born after 1975.
1982*
Millennials are people who graduated from high school starting in 2000. Thus millennial.
@@IknowMoreThanYou Millenials (Generation Y 1981-1996)
If Jayson Tatum can guard Durant, Detroit's Dennis Rodman would definitely give him fits.
hes not guarding him alone. 1-2-2 zone which is weak
Chris and Rob acting like they ain’t picked the Nets even after losing game 2. Chris was out there showing a very small sample size No context stat of how KD responds after bad game 1. Now he realizes his picks ain’t gone hit for 3 years in a row so wants to use KD to make another point and defend the 90s era which help defends Jordan. They acting like Jordan ain’t one of those guys that also went 0/11 in a second half of playoff game
Big facts
He’s got one foot off the bandwagon now 😂
The real back in our days conversation 😅
The game doesn’t “evolve” 🤦♂️. The rules change. That’s not evolution.
That’s change.
Been saying this for literal years. Basketball fans really act like the rules mean nothing.
You’re right but evolve and change are synonyms but again it is about the rules
I don’t want to hear old folks saying “nobody play defense in this era”
Karl Malone would break KD in half.
Finally some callers 👌
I love how Chris is crediting 80s and 90s basketball for something the Celtics are doing in 2022 😑
Yeah what is that about 😂. Those were great eras but talk about the Celtics Human Highlighter
dude they are NOT playing 90s defense
😂😂😂😂
@@futuretimetraveller8677 right this defense better they physical but not playing football
@@kentonohio7614 it's "better" because everything from YOUR time must be better right?
thats not intelligent
All greats can play in any era. Great players could make adjustments to their game to adapt to any style of play easily.
It’s not gon be a blemish on his resume???🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️ the passes they give this man lol
Rob Parker doesn't get enough credit for his antics. I like how Chris constantly pays respects on this show.
I don't want to hear old people say that"nobody could gaurd Micheal Jordan in today's era ...and he would have average 40".No he can't .It's basketball with different set of skills.Its not rugby it's basketball...u score by putting ball in the basket no matter the distance.
I agree. Jordan would average 50, not 40 in the current era. You've obviously not watched the games live. It's not even close between KD and Jordan. Even Reggie Miller was a stronger scorer than KD. With today's rules, Jordan would average 50 against a team full of Draymonds.
Kyrie I think the fasting has an effect depending on the time. Game 1 started 3:30 so he probably had more energy compared to game 2 which was at 7 ish. In the last hour you feel the energy drop more
He should be eating before the sun comes up.
@@madmaxpirate lol I’m Muslim but you still feel hungry bro especially since he’s a pro athlete
PRISONER OF THE MOMENT, HE STRUGGLES FOR 2 GAMES NOW we forget about the past decade?! DO BETTER CHRIS
So true
Prisoner of the moment? Multiple failures in OKC. HE BEEN STRUGGLING, AND HE CAN’T EVEN STAY HEALTHY. He’s a weak/ skinny 7ft guard with no post game at all. Never been clutch, can’t lead a team. The boy had to join prime Steph, Klay, & Draymond to win vs. a weak 2018 Cavs team, a hurt Kawhi in ‘17, down 3-2 vs. Houston until Chris Paul got hurt.
MOST FGA WITOUT MAKE IN A HALF IN THE PLAYOFFS LAST 25 YEARS
1.JOEL EMBIID 0-12
2.MJ 0-11
3. KD, JAMES HARDEN, VINCE CARTER, MICHAEL FINLEY 0-10
@@lastshallbefirst5516 his injuries didn’t really start piling up like that until the last few years
@@rasheedmumuney2770 You’re correct…his injuries have been more clutch than his game in the past 3 years
Not even close to the jordan rules.
Stop saying millennials we watched Jordan play we were young but was there
...the way he highpoints the ball is incredible
What LeBron James started is coming to an end. These new good teams are not filled with superstars chasing rings. And Golden State Toronto and Milwaukee have been the only teams to do it the right way as far as winning a ring.
You mean what the 08 Celtics started?
@@theBlackBearrrr 08 Celtics were built by GM not players AND Big 3 were past they prime
@@theBlackBearrrr man this comment is so underrated. Thank you 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
@@tdup191 man you don't know basketball if you think Boston wasn't a superteam stop it please 🙏
@@kentonohio7614 lol what superteam goes to 2 Finals and wins 1 chip tho?? If tht case the 00s Pistons were a superteam 😂🤦🏽♂️ Besides my point was the GM put Celtics together and they were past their prime unlike Heat/Cavs Bron 2nd stint/Warriors with KD who imo are the only superteams in history because multiple stars colluded to play with each other in their prime. Teams tht draft their stars and sign role players aren't superteams imo especially when i never heard the term superteam until Bron went to Miami 🤷🏽♂️
Not these old heads using a bad playoff series to boost the 90s era..KD is just having a bad series..this doesn’t mean anything about the 90s.
Plus these defensive schemes the Celtics are using would be illegal in the 90s
Durant wouldn't be any better than George Gervin or Alex English
I always knew KD could be stopped with the right defense, my son used to disagree but Tatum has proven me right. KD cannot handle the physicality.
Do people know that the "millennials" are in their 30's now? I feel like old people just say millennial like it's forever supposed to mean 16-22 year olds. That is Gen Z now.
Impersonation was on point 😂
Rob is so biased against the warriors it’s a joke
It's cuz they blew a 3-1 lead to lebron lol he's still mad
@@abualzuaree Yup and that's the same exact reason skip Bayless don't like Steph or the warriors either
if a young Celtics team could do that to him with no championships what hell you think the 90s Bulls who 3peated twice would do to him lmfaoo youngsters 😂😂😂
So 2 bad games and now anyone could guard him. It’s so crazy how far these 90s lovers go to discredit new school basketball. It comes off as jealousy to me
No not anybody can guard kd. But the point is you’re watching a team do it in the modern game where it’s easier to score. In the 90s we would’ve had more games like this. He’d still be amazing
KD has struggled with physical defense before bro...
@@katlegomoatshe1312 my main point is to point out the extent 90s lovers go to to discredit the new gen. It happens both ways but it’s way more extreme from them
Bro hes shooting 30 percent
Nostalgia creates delusion
“They laid wood to you Chris” they did what??? 😂😂😂
I like how y’all skated by the LeBron physicality conversation, y’all know LeBron could easily overpower most of those 90s guys. It would actually make him a better defender, cuz now LeBron can use his strength to hand check you to death.
LeBron hand checking someone is so unfare especially in Miami 😭 he would lock anyone up
@@kentonohio7614 facts, he was big asf😂
Lebron is one of main reason/players why the NBA gives fines for flopping
This argument goes both ways. The guys in the 90’s would still struggle to gaurd guys today because they couldnt be as physical. Common fouls back then are now flagrant 2 and ejections. You cant hand check guys. Chris shoots his own argument down when he goes into football and says you cant judge the old quarterbacks harshly because the recievers now can run free and the quarterbacks cant be hit. Well that makes defense harder to play in this era. This is why it is impossible to compare players from different eras. It is literally different rules they play by.
People take the position of listing attributes to justify someone's greatness.
"LeBron James is 6'8" 250lbs, he's unstoppable" but LeBron doesn't use his size when it counts, he chooses to pass. And he can be stopped... ask the Spurs.
KD and his fans seem to think his skill is so far beyond anyone else that he's undoubtedly the best. But if he was 6'6" that wouldn't be the case.
You have to produce. You can be capable of being the G.O.A.T. Of being unguardable. Of being a better scorer than Jordan. But you have to then accomplish it.
KD is more skilled than Giannis and thinks Giannis shouldn't be nowhere compared to him. But what Giannis did last year was more impressive than anything KD has done. And he has 2 back to back MVPs in his pocket.
That is a fact. Especially about Giannis vs Durant.
After 2011 no one Stopped Lebron they beat his team.
Skill doesn’t adequate to the better. A lot of times the more dominant player comes out on top.
@@datsapaddlin You right but I just meant regarding his size. LeBron could drop 30 in the paint alone if he chose to use his size more.
I hate this younger generation, people throw the word GOAT around for any great player. There is no GOAT in this era. Just enjoy the game and stop thinking about legacy.
If the NBA officiated the same all year around a lot of these conversations about current players being so much better than past players wouldn't be the same.