Kevin Durant Says Guys like Stephen A. Smith Changed the Game for the Worse | THE ODD COUPLE
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- THE ODD COUPLE Chris Broussard and Rob Parker react to Kevin Durant who in response to Stephen A. Smith saying the 'Michael Jorden ruined the game of basketball' called out prominent debate show hosts like Stephen A. Smith for being more responsible for ruining the game.
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Part of the reason why guys like Magic, Bird, and Jordan are so revered is becuase their wasn't a group of reporters impersonating pro wrestlers tearing down their legacy for small grievances, many having nothing to do with basketball. Letigimately, if a modern basketball player passes up a shot with like 3 minutes left in a random regular season game, a bunch of talking heads will claim that they don't have that killer instinct, clutch gene, and are not elite.
I would have loved to see how some of the old stars would have reacted to being scrutinized 24/7 like stars of today.
Well said
lmao
Lol you must’ve forgot about magic being clowned for his finals performance or when the media was trashing jordan saying he’s a one on one player who could never win a chip
They weren’t scrutinized like todays players, which is why they are so adored. None of these analysts can actually analyze the game, they just say hot takes for clicks and views/money. It’s a joke.
sports media nowadays is like a film critic that stops the movie every two minutes and starts debating, analyzing, and making declarative statements about what they just saw without having seen the whole picture or even an entire scene
100% agree
1000% correct
Agree!
Sadly real news has went this way too and it’s ramifications are much more severe
Great analogy.
I'm going to reuse it !!
I rarely agree with Durant but he is right this time.
That's true. But remember, they are getting multimillions to be able to deal with this. If you don't want this then go work at the post office.
True story AOL
@@ibnfaqir9223 facts they aren’t played to play basketball. They’d do that for free. It’s all the bs they get paid for fr fr.
@@ibnfaqir9223 this one is really good
Why when kd express his opinion he is sensitive but when anyone else says anything they have a point
Because “Karen” Durant is always crying and uses burner accounts. Moving on.
You’re right I find it hilarious that Every time Durant tweets people are calling him sensitive when in fact they are the ones butt hurt and sensitive about what he doing or what he saying. Social media is a cesspool
Because he legitimately is sensitive lol
Because it's always about something that DIRECTLY affects him negatively.
@@wilcee238 if you’re still talking about a burner account when he actually uses his main account to give his opinions, you’re the sensitive and childish one
People talk about KD but the media is infinitely more sensitive....he isn't talking about being discussed....he isn't even talking about being criticized....its about the outlandish clown takes that consist of shouting over each other to see who can say the most ridiculous take that will go viral.
Right on
That’s what they are missing he’s not talking about the criticism at all, now when you attack the media back they have a bigger issue than the players.
Correct, anytime kd says anything, he is sensitive, he blew a 3-1 lead, he had a burner acct. They never really listen to what point is trying to make. I am not a fan of everything kd says but sometimes he is right on the money
So right
That's not all KD said. KD said your not allowed to criticize the game of you didn't play or are not playing at the highest level. That's what the backlash is about.
KD is right though. The media debate format has ruined the game and how a person views the top athletes. You really can't enjoy multiple stars without feeling like you have to take a side. They have also taking team concepts and turned them into one on one battles. QB vs. QB; Star vs. Star. It makes for great TV, but limits stars from having iconic brands. But if more athletes get their own media formats that could change.
You are so right. They pit the players against each other. Why you can't like multiple players. If you like kd you can't like lebron. I like both players
Typically, I don't care much for responses to comments that, in a word, simply pronounce, "Well said" (or, in the present day vernacular..."Facts." I mean - I really, REALLY hate that "Facts" meme...largely because it's almost universally being attributed to some comment that ostensibly was actually an opinion.] I don't find those sorts of responses offer much in the way of propelling the narrative, and can't help but feel - sometimes - their purposes are intended to foster "mob mentality" where cultivating fear of dissension being the actual purpose.
In your case...I will make the exception. BECAUSE I ABSOLUTELY, WITHOUT QUALIFICATION, AGREE WITH EVERY WORD YOU SAID. If I may actually invoke another response trope I typically detest, but feel personally moved to express in this instance...
...I COULD NOT HAVE SAID IT BETTER MYSELF.
I couldn't have put it better myself. 100% agree. Sports media is really what the issue in modern-day sports. It's all about calling people out defaming your character putting up non-biased opinions
Agreed! One team can get blown out and they will still have a debate! Its okay to agree and just speak on the game! They have to debate, and compare every player! They talk about Bron and KD still and they aint even in the playoffs.smh Just starting drama!
True im a ravens fan, but I have no reason to not enjoy Mahomes. The medis put Lamar vs Mahomes for ratings, now the fanbases go at it on Twitter.
Chris is right and I've been trying to tell people this. All great players have failures. People just overanalyze these games now.
Yeah but these failures as you call them bleeds into assassinating their characters and saying how they're not great players. Perfect example Chris Paul people are starting to question how good Chris Paul really is when his resume speaks for itself. I mean they literally had someone like Patrick Beverly, a guy who's really never done much of anything in the NBA literally try to assassinate his character along with his game and he had the platform to do it because that's what the sports media has done
@@flyguy7825 CP is a very good player. His character however is deeply flawed. But great point.
@@flyguy7825 facts and it’s sick if u think about it u can have a bad game and they’ll make it deeper then what it is and once u respond your called sensitive
right
@@alfredjackson7058 THEY CALL KD SENSITIVE ALL THE TIME WHEN HE SPEAK UP
Obviously, Chris and Rob are PISSED that KD didn’t mention them…
Lol 😂
Rob needed to be mentioned as the biggest hater
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@sufianmazhar8198 but it’s even better not mentioning him. Not validating him lol
Lol @@jeffsamuels2539
Jesse Paiz is absolutely right. If sports journalists all disapeared tomorrow, the games would still go on. All these kinds of talk shows are just people figuring out a way to make themselves relevant. And as far as sensitivity goes, it seems to me these so-called sports journalists get more into their feelings than the players.😢
Until the players salary drops 80% with no media.
@@alexsheene3810 shhhh don’t let them know. It’s not like the media is the reason athletes are rich. 🤡
@@alexsheene3810 KD is talking about TV sports analysts. Not (all) media. If SAS disappeared tomorrow, it would have very little effect on player revenue.
@@alexsheene3810 yup, look at Mike Trout. No media covers him.
look at boxing. They depend on the media. A fight won't sell if the media don't hype it.
KD is 100% right
100% sensitive.
@@dylanallen7720 your literally in the comments responding to everyone 😂😂
@@xkid.darkskin5178 and?
@@dylanallen7720 it mean you’re sensitive and guaranteed to respond, you bozo🤣🤣🤡🤡
Thin skin
I'm no KD fan but he definitely has a point... But as bad as SAS is for the game he doesnt hold a candle to the damage skip his done to the game... That guy literally has people thinking a player can not miss a single shot drop 51 points 15 ast and 20 rebounds but since he went 2-5 from the ft line and someone with 10pts but perfect from the ft line in the 4th quarter hes the reason they won the game.
Skip will go back to when some all-star missed free throws in 3rd grade to say the kid doesn't have a clutch gene.
@sk no one cares about what you republican domestic terrorists have to say... The entire world will forever know you as a terriorst party and no amount of conspiracy theories will change that fact... Now no cry somewhere else
Nah what ruined the NBA is a player ran NBA they are all so entitled, non motivated, and arrogant. The worst thing to ever happen to the NBA is players jumping around teams cause they “feel” like it
@@vicshephard9231 Skip Says Stuff For
Entertainment just to Debate
Shannon Sharpe.
stephen A Racist smith is A Douche Bag
He Thinks He Knows More Then He Really Does.
So Yes K.D. is Right
About stephen A Racist smith .
@@aaronbarkley539 Your Correct
Plus These Athletes In Sports
Make Way to Much
They Are Way Way Way Overpaid
And Most of them Go Broke
Then They Do Shows
Wanting Others to Feel Sorry For Them.
Which I Never Do.
You Make Millions and Go Broke
That is your Fault and Nobody Else to
Blame , But Yourself.
Kevin Durant is 100 percent correct
I agree! I miss the ESPN loop! It wasnt personal! These new media guys and shows have made it personal and have focused on drama and comparisons than actual sports!
Stephen A DEEEEPLY hates Kyrie. "Kyrie" is ESPN'S clickbait title. We fans want sports journalist/analyst. NOT personalities
Extremely well put!
Drama sells! If they just reported on wins and basketball mechanics, then only die hard basketball fans would watch. They need to attract viewers from all aspects of the spectrum. But I do think the constant love affair with Michael Jordan needs to stop. I’m tired of everyone comparing the modern greats against Jordan. I grew up in the late 80s and 90s, so I know how great he was. But when Jordan played, I didn’t care much about Wilt Chamberlain or Bill Russell which were the former greats of the previous eras. Just like I don’t care much about Jordan now because there’s KD, Lebron, Steph, Giannis, and the rest of the current greats
@@EduardoOliveira-zx9ju Not really, literally nobody forces you to watch these guys. A 100 million other shows beside ESPN First Take but you decide to watch it ever morning? Make that make sense bro.
KD spot on. The media guys trying to be bigger than the players. It’s great TV at times but it just creates a player v player and you have to pick a side
True, because if a guy doesn't win a ring, he's not considered the best. It's a team game.
Well you can be great without a ring but if you were truly the greatest you'd have several rings.
@@thenflisnothingwithouttomb8939 Shaq til this day shames Charles saying: "You don't have one of these Chuck!". That bothers players, and it forces them to pair with stars creating an imbalance of talent around the league
@@EduardoOliveira-zx9ju Yup, That is what happens.
@@EduardoOliveira-zx9ju greek freak?
The fact that ESPN gave Pat Bev a spot to show his bias toward Chris Paul is a clear indication that the media really care more about hot takes than objective commentary. This is why I really only listen to Chris/Rod because everything else keep recycling the same old topics. How many times can you really have the GOAT debate? Even when the topic is about something totally different it somehow circles back around to Jordan vs LeBron.
Rod is just as bad as Skip. He hates on Lebron just as much as Skip.
Yes, and for 2 weeks talking about kd should be sad he left warriors. The warriors hadn't even played 1 finals game and the media have them Champs and kd should regret leaving gs. First he was wrong to go to gs. Now it is he was wrong to leave gs
U think they knew be was going to start talking crazy there? You people are annoying
@@leeroyuckface6893 so why do they keep having him back? 🤔
It was Lebron who started that OFFICIALLY with the GOAT DEBATE about when he put himself in there on his own show with his posse team of Maverick and Rich being there and said:
"That right there made me the greatest of all time, that what I felt"
That's another CHEATING message Lebron did and that's WHY he's never respected amongst fans outside LeFolks and other LEGENDS of the game.
The fact y’all being so dismissive of what he said proves his point even more I’m glad we have Kd and there are a few other players who don’t care about the backlash of going at the media
EXACTLY!
🤣Kd mad the media calls him out , he treats himself Like MJ or lebron but can’t handle ANY criticism yes he’s allowed to go at fans that’s his right but he’s not even realistic with his beliefs
Brousard looked at it from his point it just sounds like you don't listen
What's kd gonna do when the salary drops 80% with no entertainment media related to the league? Grow up, stop being sensitive and get paid millions for it.
Except KD cares about the backlash, that's why the media jumps on him when he tweets. He has a legendary thin skin. Next he'll come out saying some nonsense about just wanting to play the game and not focus on the media. Happens every time.
Stephen A a character. He literally goes into character. When I saw dude getting filmed walking into the area lmmfao
Yeah he was walking in like he was playing!!
He thought he was Stone Cold Steve Austin that day 😂
Players are scrutinized more, but also praised more. We talk about many of these guys already in the top 75 and better than past players with more accomplished careers. So it works both ways.
Using the top 75 to support your assertion that we praise them more makes absolutely NO SENSE.
You barely every see someone getting praised without the media mentioning someone else career, the media is nonsense. Most of them never even made it to the nba level as an athletic but criticize them like they have that’s why I only watch the real sports shows like nba game time and inside the nba them other folks seem bitter just saying
Man Dwight Howard got left off this list PURELY because of scrutiny. His resume is CLEARLY top 75 but because of the narratives these shows create his legacy got knocked
praised? Idk derozen never gets his respect because he shoots mid range jumpers. media (gotlieb, nick wright) was sayin its out of style
@@r.brown0294 I’ve seen people on TV say Derozan should be in the MVP conversation.
KD on the money with this one. Fans and athletes know that these "unbiased" Media Analysts are just shock jocks nowadays. Name calling, over-analyzing, and obsessive bullying of specific athletes is all you from the majority of the debate shows. That's why athlete driven podcasts are starting to take over and is a safe place for other athletes to authentically express themselves.
Westbrook got destroyed on undisputed this past season.
safe place? really?
Right I do believe there is some good to sports analysts but nowadays I find myself watching player podcast 100% more because of the realness and the deep dive on the game which is what we want!
@@user-gc1wj8tt2p everyone needs a safe place where they feel comfortable enough to discuss their feelings openly.. we can't have any sensitive people feeling uncomfortable
Durant is right. Do u know what lebron's field goal percentage in the finals? No and you shouldnt. These debate shows have loads of stats to nitpick about how a guy isnt clutch or they made the wrong play. Too much instant analysis and grand proclamations over a single game.
SAS in particular played college ball and averaged 0.8 points or something like that, how the hell does he gets to tell us who's trash as a player?
And NONE of them have ever been competent athletes. 95%+ of sports media would get dogged at a rec center their whole life
@@MasterTrickShot Well Popavich never played in the league. Guess he doesn't know basketball. 🤷
@@soda8736 Outliers are exceptions, not the rule. Goofy stop comparing Skip Bayless role/job to rare great coaches.
@@MasterTrickShot sports is entertainment, do I need to be an oscar winner to say a movie was bad?
It’s crazy how no one rips into these people for having a problem with Kevin durant responding to twitter users with no followers, this man is so humble he would talk to anyone while these reporters want us to believe that you should only respond to people with a certain status……it’s crazy to me
Thank you! They keep trying to project their shallow feelings onto him. I hate it.
I get where KD is coming from, but speaking as a fan from Africa, I want to say that the sports shows ABSOLUTELY have contributed to enhancing the league globally. Without these shows, I and so many other out there are not fans. Facts.
Facts!!! Am in South Africa & feel the same. These guys are global superstars in part, a lot in fact due to proliferation of these shows. It’s in our consciousness far more than the past which are increased their marketability. KD is cherry picking as usual when it suits them
Sometimes today's media debate shows just find things to talk about..
When you start circulating talking points like "KD should feel bad about the warriors potentially winning a chip abs he shouldn't have left. " that was 2 years ago and the warriors are coming off two seasons of not making the playoffs. Why does KD have to feel bad about winning 2 chips and getting 2 finals mvps and then moving on to try to win elsewhere.
Kevin Durant is 100% right. He is a clear example of the media crucifying him and he pointed straight at Stephen A. Smith It was Stephen A Smith that started this whole thing with Kevin Durant saying how it was a punk move for him to go to the warriors when he was a free agent and it was his choice to go to the warriors and he didn't force his way out of Oklahoma City and now he is still giving him criticism for leaving the warriors and going to the Brooklyn Nets how the hell does that work?Of course these two are going to have a problem with it because they don't disagree with it and it makes them look bad if they did agree with it
I didn’t need the media to tell me it was a punk move. It really was a soft punk move. Anybody could see that. U were up 3-1 on the warriors and choked and instead of running it back the man ran to a 73-9 team. I’m sorry it was a soft move before stephen said anything
Remember when the clown tried to pseudo threaten KD?
Stephen A. HUMILATED KD for joining Golden State. Now he gets on TV daily to shame him for leaving. That's like your girlfriend saying you're free to cheat with other women, then becomes angry you got another woman pregnant
I told you they stephan a smith 10 million dollars to run his mouth and scrutinize his own people let stephan a smith criticize white people I guarantee you he would get fired
@@EduardoOliveira-zx9ju He doesn't shame KD for leaving GS. He shames him for leaving Steph to join KYRIE of all people. How has that turned out for him so far? I think that's a fair criticism.
Its partially true, just like 24/7 news networks. Its editorialized for the hot take without complete analysis, simplified. As if the complete team doesn't matter & "one" superstar talent wins in a vacuum. It's absurd !
The media has definitely enhanced the championship or bust mentality that has hurt the sport. Tanking only makes sense if making the playoffs and losing in the second round is unacceptable. If you tank you are invisible, but if you lose in the playoffs like the Jazz did, you get castigated. Further, the appeal of the NBA comes from the relationship between the players and the fans, and this constant attitude that Dame is some how a failure for not joining a super team kills that. LeBron went to Miami because the media decided that he was a failure for not winning in Cleveland. That is sort of the same reason Durant went to Golden State.
The media constantly bellyaching about the greats of today is also responsible for killing the hype, but that is a separate thing.
Kd ended Stephen a with his own meme😂😂😂😂
Sadly, these analysts try to generalize their poor reporting saying “we’re just doing what guys have been doing in barbershops for decades.” Nope. The way analysts talk about these players matters and is not the same quality amongst different reporters. It’s not good which is why we push for athletes to take over media
I get both sides. I think the issue with the debate shows is when you can tell when a person that is debating doesn't like someone so all of his takes will be biased and lack objectivity. For example, Skip with LeBron. Lebron put ten laughing emojis one time and Skip read more into it than need be. And now he doesn't like Luka and says Luka can't shoot. Like really. No one watching Luka's game will say he can't shoot. So when these debaters don't like someone it takes fun out of the debates.
Fans have to get smarter. This shouldn't be acceptable.
KD just should've went at skip, that's the only blatant grandpa who's great at being bias
@@thatomalebese9160 you forgot the man in this video Rob Parker
Shannon Sharp said about KD one time, that when he praises KD dozens of times, takes KD's side, that KD has nothing to say. But the one time you say something negative about him he's calling you out.
actually he lied on Kevin durant then when Kevin Durant confronted on it Shannon block him with no explanation
@@bb360mg what did he lie about?
@@atlkevin23 Shannon lied on him on undisputed and KD called his lie on his Twitter page and Shannon blocked him afterwards so Shannon can dish it but can’t take it
@@andrebritten once again, what did he lie about ?
@@atlkevin23 it was a fake quote Shannon used on undisputed
The fake quote basically went if Lebron the GOAT and I beat him what does that make me, I'm paraphrasing here but Shannon said KD said that quote when he never did
I love KD more the more he tweets 🤣🤣🤣
All these “analysts” do is try to discredit any negative feedback from players by calling them “sensitive.” The analysts never have the ability to self-reflect and admit when they are out-of-line when criticizing the athletes. All they want to do is be dismissive of the athletes standing up for themselves when the media disrespects them and talk about them
as if they are inhuman. Can the Stephen A Smiths and Skip Baylesses of the media do their job without disrespecting athletes so much? Do they have to call them out of their names and go for the constant nasty insults? Do they have to paint a picture of the athlete being the scum of the Earth all the time? You want to put all sorts of nasty spins on athletes names like “Westbrick” and “Lechoke” but when they fight back it’s “oh, they are just so sensitive.” I wonder how sensitive some of these analysts jaws would be if they said some of those comments to their faces… 🤔
They are being sensitive because that's the cost of doing business. If you are a top player or in the spotlight, they should have the discernment that this is what comes with it. Any great successful person who is in the spotlight will always amass haters/criticizers. It is what come with the game, or any field of success...like the song by Rico Richie, "if he ain't got no haters, he ain't poppin." All the people they speak heavily on are noteworthy players (MVPs, All-Stars, Scoring Champions, etc.)
It's better to accept things for as it is, than complaining on something that will not change (human nature).
@@raymondweaver2023 This is going to be long because I really think this is very important. First, I see your point… Some of these analysts just really cross the line. I agree that the players should be able to take a lot of criticism and they should have a thick skin but some of these analysts just go so far as to plainly disrespect them as men. It goes beyond even just roasting them and it becomes inflammatory.
You are right that some things just come with the territory but if the analysts can dish it out then they should be able to take it too. When it is thrown back into their faces all of a sudden the players are said to be “sensitive” because they dish it back or defend themselves. I don’t think the players should just have to sit there and take all that without fighting back. More than anything, I think the analysts can do their jobs well without having to destroy the players reputations and assassinate their characters.
Stephen A Smith (SAS) once said on live TV that he would trade away the man that is Andrew Wiggins for a box of cookies. An athlete’s kid, mother and father have to hear him trash their loved one like that on TV and Wiggins never did anything to Stephen A Smith.
There is a history of black men being traded as if they are worthless or subhuman and he wants to say that on national television?
SAS made the point that analysts have always done this but fans just were not able to read it all because the internet was not available back in the day and that is just not true. Journalism and reporting in media has changed drastically over the past few decades. It was a lot more about just reporting in the earlier days of the NBA. They did not go around destroying the players like they do now. These players are not animals or pets.
KD been on 🔥 lately … I’m not gon lie I’ve acquired more respect and admiration for him …. I
I love the odd couple...and I give them a 10% respect level for bringing this up....but maaaan if these two didn't pussyfoot around and play get off my lawn. I'm not a fan of all the things KD says...but this was 100% right. Obviously these two work for "sports media" but that industry has made sports significantly worse with the constant overdramatizing and overanalysis of every little sensationalized headline while finding time to skip over every single thing of substance. And these two couldn't even find a glimmer of criticism. Players benefitted? Get out of here. With social media today...even without "debate shows"...the players would be just fine.
Yea these so called experts are really full of themselves and think they are bigger than the games they cover.
Lol they are a little funny.
If they could just talk about the game and if a player had a bad game yes, be critical. Good game, praise but all the narratives, legacy talk is getting crazy
It’s capitalism. Everybody chasing a dollar selling their souls for a buck. Watering down the product.
As a former professional athlete...every piece of praise that I've received from people who weren't my parents, was a rope to hang me with later.
The pressure to live up to other people's expectations is a drag, and I'm happy for those who are able to just play for the love of the game. Money doesn't buy happiness.
You are so right. Some people praise and build you up just to break you down. Take pleasure in it
@@samjon6403 no, I don't think so. The athlete earns his salary based on past deeds. There's a hope that they will continue to perform at said level; but there is no guarantee. In any business situation, there's risk involved...just because you don't like the way it turns out doesn't mean you pay him less than what he negotiated in his contact.
He's earned the money that the market allows him to get. It's up to the managers to decide if they want to re-sign him to a different contract or trade him if he starts falling off.
@@samjon6403 have you ever been a salaried employee before? Have you ever signed a contract where you were to be paid a fixed amount of money yearly, regardless of how many hours you worked?
You keep acting as if these athletes are wage workers, they're not.
@@samjon6403 then you know how it is.
It's just the cost of doing business at the end of the day. No job or business is all sunshine and rainbows. It comes with being in the spotlight; just like how "haters" are a part of success in any field; if you do not want haters in your life, then you do not want success. The haters and criticizers should be thanked by those on the receiving end, since it means you are doing something noteworthy.
It all boils down to choices, you can choose to let words/unwarranted criticism get to you, or you can choose to ignore it and go about your day. Just like online "bullying," why continue to view something that displeases you, you are not being forced or coerced, turn your phone off or whatever and go about your day. If this stuff bothers KD, then he is focused on the wrong thing. No one is forcing him to listen/watch, and if he comes by it from happenstance, he can choose to ignore it and go about his day.
It ain't that deep, but only if you allow it to be.
KD is right in the sense that someone has to drag the other guy, even after a great game or series for the shows to work. We have spent 19 years overanalyzing LeBron who will end his career as the leading scorer with 10 or 11 finals appearances and 4 or 5 chips. It'll seem pretty ludicrous 1-2 years after he's done playing.
Jimmy Butler was dragged for taking a three when the Heat were totally depleted. Jimmy couldn't have done more, but still questions were lingering
If Lebron retires after next season, Skip will criticize him for not playing until he reached Brady's age.
He aint clutch, Steph will surpass him with an finals MVP like woa SAS what's the rush?
@@freetheworld2671 The standard every Superstar's legacy has always been judged by is Championships. Nobody made a big deal about Finals MVP until Skip started emphasizing it to discredit Steph for not having one.
Skip tried pulling the same stunt last NFL season, hyping obscure "air distance" and "turnover worth play" categories for Brady during the QB MVP race.
TNT crew all the way!
This is why Chuck is the most important thing to basketball media.
He is the only one that has been there done that, THAT isn't afraid to criticize players. (Shaq has favoritism and Kenny doesn't want heat from players)
Kenny is a vacuum of funny ...... there is just nothing there !
@@brainhakker7133 I think you're confusing Charles with Kenny. Charles is moronic and is said to be funny. Kenny has intellect and a real student of the game. Also a two time WORLD CHAMPION.
@@mrbarry2091 Yeah all that TALK don't mean DOODLEY SQUAT !! Kenny woulda been gone a Decade Ago of it weren't for Chuck and them Adding SHAQ !!
@@brainhakker7133 ok
I'm with Chris I'm a 90s baby I would've never imagined Larry "Legend" going 3-11 back to back games in the Finals
Tragic johnson
He missed a chance to make his point even better.
After Bird's two 8 point games in a row, and talk that Robert Reid had his number, and was the Bird stopper, you know Bird would roar back.
So in the next game, Bird 'exploded' for... 12 points.
I'm literally watching the media trying to manufacture a Curry vs Durant beef. While Boston and GSW are in the finals sickening.
exactly
They keep trying to pit kd against the warriors like he wasn't part of the team and wasn't it 3 years ago
The media isn’t trying to do anything but make money. That’s a problem in America now?
Kevin Durant and draymond green the gifts that keep on giving
Nah. KD Is right, Green is mostly wrong.
The media really needs to be called to order. They find ways to talk about everything except the game of basketball. It has become a gossip column with popularity contest and honestly dumbing down the kind of fans we have these days. It is more about criticizing particular players borderline insulting players for clicks and views without any commentary on the game itself.
And it's so sad that their opinion have financial implications for these players including manipulating talks on contracts, all-star and all-teams.
Most importantly they can manipulate your legacy. The narrative they propagate stay online forever, it's why people who were not fans in d MJ, kobe, Hakeem, Bill Russell era know about these players. If they cultivate a false narrative about these players it's what future fans will think these players truly are.
Best thing for players is to call out bullsh*t as they happen and shut it down, control your legacy and your narrative.
If they say you are sensitive, soft or feminine so be it. A Man must be in control of his own legacy not letting a bunch of bias fanboys tear down what you have work so hard to build.
Couldn't of said it better. Sports media getting like regular media, just trying to get clicks instead of the facts
I like this. And imagine being held back from the hof because of certain media that dont like you.
Can you talk in specifics? Who is talking about personal things and not the game? I think people just imagine things
When I was trying to understand basketball and get to know the players and the teams very well, these talk/debate shows were of help to me. I'm not in America btw, I'm a Ghanaian. I used to skip NFL segments bc I didn't have an interest but I remember watching a show about the NFL and seeing how passionate the debaters were about the NFL. I decided to watch 1 or 2 games and learnt the rules. I've not regretted it at all. Although I don't know all the squad members of all teams (53 is a lot to keep), I enjoy the games. So while I understand KD's sentiments, it goes both ways as Rob Parker put it (I can't believe I agree with Rob on something). These shows help grow the game. You can't have your cake and eat it.
Omg scary same experience. I am also from Ghana but live in Norway. And I kinda agree. I also watch forst take and all the debat shows at the start. But now that I am more knowledgeable. Even thoug i agree it increases the interest in the sport. I believe they do it by dumbing it down. As someone Else in the comments wrote. Instead of watching a game and marvelling at the brilliance whiles trying to catch on with the tactics and stuff. It becomes more steph va jayson tatum. Or superstar qb vs superstar qb. Like there are not others participating and getting paid a lot of money to be good themselves. And play their roles
I also think that because they cant analyze every game and every moment. It leads to more screaming and Just giving their opinion. And many of them never evolve their takes. Flip flopping is bad ofc. But they behave like changing an opinion based on new info is outlandish. And means one lack integrity.
You guys strayed away from what he was responding to. Stephen A said Michael Jordan changed basketball for the worse. So KD responded that no that's not true, that it is actually you Stephen A that changed the game for the worse. You only responded to KD and not answer the big elephant in the room. Typical.
I dont understand why KD is salty with SAS when SAS always praises him when others try to downplay him
Forreal Stephen A defend KD like a spouse but I think KD wasn’t only talking about himself but all the players in the league. How they compare and tear down one player to uplift another just to try to prove a point.
Same with Skip Bayless, the guy protected KD like the son he never had, but KD trashing him every single time, calling him dumb and clueless.
He doesn’t like when they uplift him but at the same time try a tear someone else down like LeBron.
@Christian Soldier KD probably doesn't like Stephen A saying the stuff he did about his best friend Kyrie Irving.
@@tigera6 does Skip not sound dumb and clueless at times?
Weird how everyone hates sports media so much but then watches it all the time lol
Facts. Sounds like KD watches 1st Take and Undisputed all the time
I gotta say i am extremely impressed by KD rise to media super stardom! He’s obviously an all time great and already a top 15 player of all time. But kThe level he’s reached off the court though is what I’m really impressed with. He’s been out of the post season for a over month now and the media won’t get off his 7ft tall NUT SACK! He’s been talked about non stop on every popular sports tv show and radio station Monday-Friday over and over! So Congrats KD! The media has continued to make utter fools of themselves daily talking about you and you haven’t even dribbled a basketball! This is Lebron and lakers level type coverage Hahaa
I remember back in the good ole days when the media only talked about the teams in the finals when it was June.
I so agree, kd hasn't been in the playoffs for a while and he is being talked about more the the 2 teams still standing
I so agree, kd hasn't been in the playoffs for a while and he is being talked about more the the 2 teams still standing
Top 15 warrior
It's not just Stephen A, Skip, and Shannon. Social media allows just about everybody in the world to publicly critique what we are seeing. People giving their opinions do not ruin the game.
Especially when they also have the right/platform to control their own narrative, other than cry about it, consistently. i.e. Draymond Green.
I have been saying this for years and the fact they have made millions by criticizing these athletes.
Thank you for showing your full segments of your shows. Unlike ESPN.
It’s the insults Rob...It’s the name calling...the downplaying of Greatness Rob-Ala Tom Freakin Brady. All time players who have proven themselves multiple champions should not be bad mouthed. NOr nit picked for weaknesses because none of the media has ever done it
West brick, le brick those skips words
Exactly
They should never be making a play on a man’s name, that his legacy and his family. Low key wish these dudes would get checked for that.
Why is Rob always doing something else when someone else is talking.
Kd right to a degree. Every day pretty much the last 2 weeks, topics had something to do with KD and his not playing.
Because he keeps tweeting
What has tweeting got to do with it. Boston and gs are in the finals. Talk about them. Kd hasn't been in playoffs since first round are gs and boston boring
If the players dont play ,theres nothing to watch period
These two never once talked about the product on the court. I think KD was making a comment about that
Talking X’s and O’s is bad for ratings
@@OscarUnrated The claim was that people in the media hurt the game and these guys got all sensitive about their profession instead of addressing the claim
KD named all the right sports actors not analysts, I only wonder why Nick Wright wasn't mentioned.
the legacy talk has defiantly gotten out of control, but when they start coming at the ex-players it's like criticism is not ok, which it defiantly is
Media need to stay with the truth with in the game. Not create false narrative for ratings. Y’all know that.
Ratings equal dollars soooo... its all about money bro. Nothing more nothing less
KD is the SOAT. Sensitive of all time😂😂 he first ballot HOF
Lmaooooo
Naw definitely Lebum James is leading that category
@@stringerbell8945 nah you definitely lead in that 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 you sorry dude
@@riptide_main3272 Aww...Lebum fanboy 😂😂😂
Just imagine someone that hasnt done your job or lived your life constantly judging your job/life. I would love to see how folks in the comments would handle this.
These kind of shows that let fans call in are the best ones 💯
He mentioned skip and shannon too. Sad that Rob and Chris are jealous, and didn't put them in the title
I agree tv shows like yours made me more interested in watching sports games to see what even been missing 💯
As much as KD hates Stephen A. & Skip Bayless, he must sure love watching their shows since he always seems to know what’s being said about him. So, KD seems to be adding to their ratings
Alot has changed.. I'm 39 I use to read brussard on newspaper in New York on my way to work and rob Parker I use to read him on NY post
Y'all a little bias on this one. I'm a fan of both and I can understand what KD means. STEPHEN A talks about anything KYRIE says because of ratings, It's almost bullying. Same with Russ & Shannon.
Players don’t need media. It’s like selling dope. “The shyt sells itself”
-push
Kevin Durant just needs to stop having thin skin. He has a comment for everything and everybody. Sometimes silence is golden. Way too sensitive
I agree but he didn't say no lies
He’s sensitive when people talk about him 🤣he’s sensitive when he talk about stuff ??? What ?? Ya be saying anything like a human can’t comment on things 💯
A player can’t never comment on something without you 🍆🚴🏼Nba fans say they “got thin skin” so they not humans?? They can’t talk on nothing ?? Ya don’t even kno the game but want them not to talk about it🤦🏽♂️
@@pitoseavy4523 Facts! Meanwhile talk about yall got swept and sent home 🏡 😐 💀
@@njones0716 bro Actually a warriors fan but you 🍆🚴🏼 make it easy to hate you
I used to love the George Michael Sports Machine late night Sunday nights. It used to give you firepower to talk about sports with your friends Monday Morning at school in the 80's and 90's.
Man Chris Broussard just took me back to the 80''s when all I ever looked forward to was The George Michael sports machine. Shout out to the tv station that broadcasted the show in Africa
I forgot all about that. Im 47 and you just unlocked a good memory. That was my go to when i first started getting into sports.🙏🙏
I think people watch the shows more then games nowadays
He’s right especially skip no logic and bias perfect example Rodgers lied about the covid test smith doesn’t go off but he’s all over Kyrie
No he did not. In the court of law he wouldn't lose. He said he was vaccinated. Doesn't matter if he k own what they meant. According to their words, where did he lie? A worthless sheep test and you bringing up that jargon.
Rodgers didn't lie idiot.
Rodgers said he was immunized .
When you catch COVID your body builds immunity.
He didn't say yes or no.
Because clearly if he came out and said he wasn't gonna get it then the media would have blasted him.
Media can promote the game, but they don't have to make it so personal and constantly attack the players.
When i listen to Colin Cowherd, if say his borderline insulting.
The players don’t need the media. When I got into basketball it was because of Jordan, iverson, Kobe… not because of no damn media. The players are the gifted talent not media
You didn't watch documentaries growing up? You never read articles? You don't watch ESPN of FOX?
Yet you’re here….
@@369pendulum yes I’ve watch them. That was never the reason I got into basketball or a reason to make me want to watch a game. Players & teams are what made me become a basketball fanatic & a hooper.
@@takedownTony6 stupid comment ! Just because I watch media shows doesn’t mean it’s the reason I became a basketball fanatic. Imagine thinking people who just talk are the reason I love basketball. That sounds dumb as hell.
Why are we yelling!?
KD is right and I've been waiting for someone to say this. Media hurts every industry!
As u get older u realize how much power they have they can literally turn a whole fan base against a player
@@alfredjackson7058 Kyrie Irving signed a contract to play basketball. Not inject something into his body that we don't know 100% about. (I'm vaccinated). The media TRIED to convince us that Kyrie is selfish, arrogant, and he's not passionate about basketball. This is why I establish my opinions before I watch bias made television
K.D is correct! These debate clowns can be sickening! Some are not bad but most have ridiculous opinions that make no sense!😊
KD is right 1000% simple is that.
Maybe if he stopped watching first take all the time and focused he wouldn’t have gotten 🧹
Sports media has turned their coverage in a daily soap opera! KD's complaint with these guys and colleagues is how they tear down and disrespect players following that momentary praise. Then they also try to delegitimize the 2 rings and mvps he got because of where he got them! KD's move to GS was a response to LBJ building his superteam is Miami. The difference being was all KD had to do was go. He didn't need reinforcements like Chris Bosh. KD's rings are disrespected while the sports media kisses LeBron's rings in Miami.
Jordan did get crushed for gambling in Atlantic City. What are you talking about?
no he didnt. social media wasnt out.
No, hardcore basketball fans knew about Jordan's issues, but he was largely protected and the general audience didn't know about his problems off the court.
@@BIGJERSEY908 MJ was social media back. Everybody talked about him . You werent around to know anything about it. You just dont know what you dont know
Mark Cuban was so right these sports media journalists, speaks in generality so people can’t push back on their bullshit and take 0 responsibility of what the f they say
And in sure these columnists in person would have a complete different view in person
Only problem I have with SAS he flip-flops with his takes.
I remember watching Cold Pizza, PTI, Around The Horn back in the day when I was a kid. Best Damn Sports Show was another good one. I also remember getting the paper and taking the sports section. Good times.
Dudes can’t take or handle any criticism.
That extends to the real world too. Folks on here acting like they could handle the pressure these dudes have.
@@YourfavoriteEx41 true, that’s fair. But I haven’t seen any sports commentators that don’t give the good with bad. I think Stephen A does a good job of being fair.
@@davidbordeaux1575 SAS doesn't keep his consistency
Look how he handled the COVID situation of Kyrie and AR12 bearing in mind AR12 *Lied* about his situation whereas Kyrie never used misdirection tactics
Meanwhile SAS was screaming at Kyrie for a week straight and spoke about AR12 like a family member died
@@davidbordeaux1575 Being fair? You do know Kyrie was not the only unvaccinated player...The only man who should have had a problem is the man that pays Kyrie. If Kyrie and KD played for his team the Knicks his tone would be different. Would you take medical advice from a non-doctor?
@@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 yeah his energy was tampered down with AR…lol. He did say lied but he didn’t ride the energy as long as he did KE.
You're proud to call SAS a friend🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 man kevin is 1000 percent right.
He’s right, they degrade the game by acting like every player and team is trash except their personal favorite. Jokic gets back to back MVPs with historically amazing seasons and you have clown Nick wright making fun of him every day on TV like he’s nothing , skip calling every player belittling little nicknames, so basically every player except the finals MVP is trash and no accomplishment besides that even matters? It destroys the legacy and dignity of the league
It doesn't destroy anything... STAAAWP ITTTT! If anything it makes them look silly. We all know not to take anything Skip says serious when it comes to LeBron James. Or Rob Parker wit Tom Brady.
@@theiggod6921 if the media that covers the game doesn’t respect the game it absolutely has an impact on how the casual fans and masses view it - just look at what a clown show Twitter is these days
@@CC-oi9mc Respect??? Are you talking about having enough Respect that we allow it to occupy our time? That We give athletes attention that they capitalize off of? That they are making more money now, at scale, then they ever have? Yeah, we surely don't Respect them that much.
@@theiggod6921 ok weirdo
0:25He thought that was so funny he had to be the only one laughing 😂
I strongly agree with KD. NBA became drama shows
Remember when you got to see game recaps on ESPN. Unfortunately now its debate show after debate show 🤦♂️
People saying KD has a point... WHERE??? He didn't elaborate. At least Stephen A. makes an attempt to explain his point. People like KD just say blanket statements with no explanation.
People like KD will interject their opinion, when no one is talking about them, and then play victim. They do the same thing Stephen A. does except it's his job.
KD just doesn't want criticism.
Totally disagree with u, Stephen a can make any point in anything he said bcs he is a debater. He can use any data and convince people. While KD is pure looking from players POV, which I agree. Why do they keep on saying regret kd and kyrie bullshit. So bcs they could go to final we have to stay there even if we are not content? Let players decide for themselves and respect their decision
He doesn’t need to elaborate, especially if you’ve followed his opinion on this before. He’s always said that this constant comparing of players, constant tearing one person down to uplift somebody. He don’t FW the sports media.
These are professional athletes who have coaches and teammates that criticise them and hold them accountable. They just don’t value criticism from people who really don’t fully understand what they’re doing.
@@newrecruit100 He shouldn't fck wit them. When you are constantly being criticized you should be mad. But that's not a negative for the viewers. Sports media is for the fans not the athletes. Because the fans are the ones tuning in everyday.
@@theiggod6921 When the players are the subject, they are inherently part of it. Viewers like debate television because it just a formal presentation of what goes on in barbershops or in group chats every single day. That’s it. That’s the appeal. As far as substance goes, it brings very little. You gotta understand there are way more casual fans than there are nuanced and knowledgeable ones. So what these guys say and with the volume their say it sadly has influence.
@@newrecruit100 You're 100% right. I just don't think the influence has went as far as to RUIN sports, which is what KD said.
What we see in sports is happening everywhere. Music, entertainment, politics. I've never seen so many people discuss politics in my life. Same with music. People looking at sales instead of whether or not the music is actually good.
Should there be balance? Yes. It you be great of someone had a show where they broke down the game, like Game 1 of the Finals tonight, without bashing the players.
But you're right, casual fans are in abundance. Real fans aren't going to alter their opinion because of some silly take from Skip or Stephen A.
Sports commentary has become a genre onto itself. People becoming famous from criticizing famous athletes. I think it's gone overboard and some of the topics are downright ridiculous. (Like in the NFL and NBA preseason and they debating "who's going to be MVP?" Like, the season hasn't even started yet! It's just crazy, but also a sign of the times. Plus because players are paid "mega millions" salaries, everyone believes they have the right to try to pull them down! 💯💯🏀🏀☹😖
I like that KD be going at everybody! Thats like streetball! The players take it to other players and the people watching.
He’s also just sensitive af.
@@dylanallen7720 How? Because he speaks up and has an opinion about non players speaking on him? If you've ever played sports, going back and forth is part of the game! He supposed to just play and be quiet?
@@chilltrav9273 complaining about people giving you criticism is soft. He’s thin skinned and he looks weaker and weaker every time he complains.
@@dylanallen7720Complaining and stating your opions isnt the same! You just walk thru life and work and never say anything about anything? Or return words if someone says something about you?
@@chilltrav9273 the problem is kd deserves the criticism. He just can’t take it.
It was David Stern who started marketing individual players above teams. And it started with Magic and Bird in the early 80's. Jordan just came along at the perfect time and his flamboyant style of play took the marketing of the NBA and its players to another level.
nah SAS ruined his own show. nobody wants home cooking and First Things First is awesome. Rob is holding that position cuz HE IS a shock analyst! It hits home for him and not Chris because Chris is a student of the sport.
Clipse D FTF is trash with that bum Nick Wrong and you got the nerve to complain about SAS? SMH
The ratings are actually up since they took Max off.
@@elp3035 I knew Max wasnt a good fit for that show after a few months . They should have Chris Russo on every day but I guess he is too busy
@@christiansoldier77 you're on drugs if you'd rather watch sas than nick, chris, wildes and Jenna..
@@clipsedrag13 SAS with Mad Dog Russo is heaven on earth but when SAS isnt with Russo then it isnt worth watching . FTF would be decent if they got rid of the idiot Nick Wrong . I cant stand that clown SMH
Rob is right. He really hit home when he is right. And willing to brag about it. He need to use that same energy when he is wrong.
KD didn't lie
Didn't elaborate either.
@@theiggod6921 those who understand don't need elaboration
The media increases sports ratings which puts more money in the players' pockets
Durant is correct. Both of yall are reaching and conflating different issues. What does covering the game have to do with opinion-laced debate shows that mix drama with analysis?
The NBA was covered adequately before the onset of Cold Pizza, we didn't need guys like Skip or Steven A trying to shape narratives and legacies (or calling players nicknames like Skip used to do).
Used to do!?!? Skip still call ppl names.............ie westBRICK lol
@@stephentripp7154 🤣🤣 yeah that's so true. It's even more hilarious that ge got mad at Jalen Rose for calling him water pistol Pete
Intense defense and hand checking led to many of the bad shooting games of the past. Many games were played where the _winning_ team barely broke 80 points. Its a different game today. Points are at a premium.
He’s absolutely right. Like kawme brown said…Stephen boule’ smith. People are on to his nonsense.but we all know he’s protected and who’s protecting him
Seems like people were on to Kwame's nonsense. No one is watching anymore. 🤣🤣
Chris is right, these debate shows are the only reason I watch the NBA.... I was always a hockey guy until I saw Skip Bayless screaming at Stephan A, I was instantly intrigued and wanted to learn. Media is king, the only reason players have what they all have is because of "media". Respect your game kd, but man up my guy