Progress Diary #7
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ย. 2024
- In this latest Elite: Dangerous Dev Diary David Braben discusses the upcoming alpha process for the game and how that will progress. He also answers some questions from fans from our forums.
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David is the most charismatic game developer ever. We love watching his videos and looking forward Elite Dangerous very very much. Keep it up !
Its not that fake charisma that you see lot of convention stage speakers have. You can tell that Mr. Braben here is so excited and genuinely happy about making this game, and that's what sells it for me.
I agree that guy has that warmth that not many others have
Maaz Mahmood exactly it's just so sincere and everything you can see the passion that he has for this game
Most bought backer package I guess is 80 pounds tier, which gives you all expansions of the game (planned to have seamless landings on planets, and walking around on planets, space stations, and ships). It gives you also 2nd level beta access, three additional starting places, etc. You can check it out at Elite Frontier Developments site.
Yes, this won't effect any of the existing pledge rewards. There will still be 2 private beta phases beforehand (and an alpha phases of course!).
Elite - the last hope for a good game in space.
Is Star Citizen not a possibility to be a good game in space?
I'm not hating or being a fanboy, just curious if you think SC isn't going to be a good space game and if not then why isn't it going to be one in your opinion?
JeroxB SC is the eternal design, it's a scam
Also gamma testing will include *all* backers (not only those from KS), so you can pledge for a game of copy and get access earlier than trough retail.
Very good luck guys. Can't wait to see some raw in game footage and finally get my hands on the game come release :)
planet named, space station named, invite to UK launch party, private alpha test, founding member, private beta test, DRM-free collectors boxed edition, T-shit, Signed A3 star map and paperback copy of "dark wheel " sequel, Reserved commander names and a whole bunch of others stuff and to actually meet david is the cherry on top for someone like me who grew up at the time and was utterly amazed at what he did to the gaming industry, To put a little (ok considerable sum) seemed only fair.
@ Michael: Have been watching the alpha testing on TH-cam. Epic. One thing that does not seem to work well is the visual in cockpit for damage/sparking. As it stands at the moment the effect is very much like a November 5th firework display. I would have thought that an electric blue arcing around the frames in the cockpit would look better. It is only a small point when everything else is soooo good but now is the time to mention these things. Happy Christmas to you all at Frontier and can't wait for March.
Hey Tool!, If I may Quote Chris Roberts “Besides wanting to see Space Sims make a comeback, I fondly remember playing the original Elite on the BBC Micro by David Braben and Ian Bell. I started my game development career around the same time David did, with my first three games all being on the BBC Micro in the UK before I moved across to the USA and joined up with Origin."
Backed and backed. Much love from the land down under
GREAT!!! Alpha seems to start in DECEMBER! No delay until now! Thats really great news!
I don’t have access to Beta etc. I feel that the backers who do have access will push the game and test it fully, try to exploit it and even break it all for the good of the game. Its fans like me who backed the game at the lower levels or cant play just now that are counting on the Community to keep David on the right track and I’m sure we will thank you for it when we do get the chance to play it. Got to love David, he comes over super excited like its Christmas Day already.
Watching this just upgraded my pledge this game is going to be awesome!
Check the moon in the background! Awesome! Cannot wait for Alpha :).
It is full blown space sim as Elite sequel - you can trade, combat, explore, scavenge, be a pirate, be a slaves liberator, etc. However, it's not like trading empire sim X has. It concentrates more on pilot experience. You can have multiple ships, but you can only travel with one of them.
Looking forward to a new jumper in the next dev diary.
Glad to see you've overcome the issue of fast travelling within systems! Can we please see some pics of Earth or other solar system planets?
As an update, Star Citizen also claims it will use Newtonian physics, which is great. However, most of Chris Roberts previous space sims haven't. I say most because you could kind of get free flight in Freelancer if you unlocked the flight model and use a couple of Mods.
It really depends on how long beta will be. It is really possible that Mac version catches up (it doesn't have to test game mechanics, just port engine properly) with rest of the version.
Loved both Elite and Frontier, can't wait to try this... My kind of game.
Elite ship designs are aesthetically much more pleasing to the eye and much more plausible and you will be able to walk around within a year of the initial release, that's around the same time that Star Citizen will have its first proper release.
Marks and Spencer's on standby: Incoming David Braben. Procure a jumper, and prepare the super cruise* to Winter!
*time acceleration not included
OMG I am so glad I had enough money available (at just the right time) to get my pledge up to get into the alpha. Its looking so exciting.!
You can back this, see Elite Dangerous home page. I suggest 80 pound tier for all further expansions.
I hope so, but there are some technical diffculties that need to be addressed for that to be possible.
Procedurally generated planets are simple when they are just coloured spheres like in Frontier, but for a modern game with terrain height and cities it become a much more complicated problem.
I think you missed the discussion I was having there. I wasn't talking about buying ships inside of the game. I was referring to how it is possible to buy ships right now in Star Citizen with real life money as a way of backing them and how you can't do that in Elite. Of course you will be able to buy ships inside them game, that's a given.
I hope you realize that we agree on this point? If you read my previous comment I basically wrote the same thing. ;)
However, no, in Elite you can't buy ships as such as a reward. You will however get additional starting "scenarios" to choose from when starting a new game. You'll have to pick one though so if you go for the "Federal Trader" you only get the Cobra Mk3 and not any of the other ships.
I'm going to start with the Sidewinder (standard) though and work myself up. ;)
Backing you 100% and we love you FrontierDevelopments.
I love the idea of a prolonged public beta.
Over time as you play the game just keeps getting better and better.
Its a solid business model, similar to the Dayz one.
Much better than the norm which is making a game then spitting out a sequel every year with only minor improvements and charging people top dollar for it, and don't get me started on DLC. Looking in your direction Fifa, cod etc.
You can see that Elite : Dangerous is going to be a game made to stand the test of time.
Can't wait! I've never paid £150 for a game before, but from the fond memories of Frontier on my Amiga, I know David will deliver with Dangerous :)
Correction, the projected final release is March 2014
Yes, FD has said that they will not try to enforce some sort of NDA since it wouldn't work anyway. So as soon Alpha starts I expect to see a whole bunch of videos appearing here on TH-cam. :)
Great! Can't wait for Alpha now!
Well, despite what I am saying in regards to ships, I do want Elite to succeed. I just think that space-sims attract a certain crowd and that crowd loves spaceships. Lots of people on SC have more than one ship - in fact there are people such as myself that have many ships and it has definitely helped fill up SC coffers.
This is "the" real space sim.
Feeform super-cruising between 1:1 scale star systems, sling-shotting around 1:1 scale planets that tilt, orbit and rotate.
May I suggest a way to "travel" the solar systems and galaxy that doesn't break any nature/science laws. A virtual reality station in a ship or a space station could simulate travel, time acceleration, and maybe rewind time to watch historical events based on what is known information to that starship or station. New information could spread when docking the starship. It would be impossible to explore unknown space this way.
Lol, seriously though Chris Roberts and David Braben get along really well and have backed each others projects.
The fact that you said the 'the goals with these type of games is to acquire better ships and equipment through gameplay' makes me wonder if you even have an account at SC since you can earn everything in game - including better ships and equipment.
hmm.. what about star citizen ? I think that those guys are also after realism as much as possible in a video game. Despite of moving/running components of starships and human-bodies, I believe that they are also looking for a realistic space experience regarding real physics rules and scales of everything in the game
I'll be 40 in December, but with Elite's Alpha coming out around the same time it more than offsets this :)
This alpha isn't exactly early access, because game is in unfinished state, and they will test it bits by bits and will pull it together with help of alpha testers. True action will be in second level beta, where will be lot of crowd (access starting from 50 pounds), and also gamma testing, where *everyone* who will be backed this game at copy level (starting from 25 pounds) will take part.
sounding better and better, If you guys manage to add in planetary landings at some point it will be the greatest game ever created.
Currently Elite 2 Frontier holds that title ;)
Nope, Chris and David go back a long way...check out their interview with Gary Whitta on this same channel, under "Elite: Dangeroud Podcast - Gary Whitta interviews David Braben and Chris Roberts about Kickstarter".
Looking forward to it!
Take care Joda, shame this got personal, never our intention. See you in SC :).
Since the Mac version was only a stretch goal anyway, I'm guessing the Alpha and Betas will be PC only. As a Mac user myself, I wish it wasn't that way, but hey, that's what Bootcamp is for :)
I am a full backer, you get a lot of more than just playing the game early there is a whole host of goodies
One person thumbed down. I assume because no breadbin jumper. May I just say - Torus drive and newtonian, David you are fulfilling eveything I wanted Elite IV to be.
I'm gonna be gunning for all of you all hail the mighty pirate Edward Teach know me and fear me!
Launch day is the day of the last wipe, call it what you may.
Alpha backer here. Can't wait!
Really wouldn't mind if your Beta's 2 years; only means the game will be sharp, very few bugs and multiple game systems/graphic cards will be supported; take your time David, ignore the impatient.
You really don't want an E:D of Rome 2: Total War, time scale, released in alpha stage, (Due to pressure from SEGA). It was a mess and it damaged the franchise.
Keep up the great work!
I was a young pup when the first Elite came out, but Frontier: Elite 2 on my Amiga 500+, many great memories! Thank you!
Too cool. I can't wait to meet 'em ;)
With this you could have the possibility to make a still picture or a movie bookmark that can be shared. Wouldn't it be great to have the game engine create a full evening movie from your, or other peoples known, experiences? ;)
I wish they you could add 1st/2nd round alpha/beta access as an extra instead of upgrading your pledge.
Yeah, i'm kinda torn. Between knowing that alpha is hardly going to be playable and actually getting a chance to fly a bit. Guess i 'll just be patient then.
hopefully in some release at some point in ED's 2nd/3rd expansion we will get first person view / oculus rift headset and planetary landings, and the ability for players to script storys / missions in the game build stuff for others to play, could totally go where no space sim has gone before :) lol to borrow from another ip. anyway it all looks great.
Well that's subjective :). I have a number of ships in SC, including the Retaliator (it looks good, and well with LTI I couldn't resist), but overall I do actually prefer the designs in ED though. Frontier could have added walking around ships etc in the first release, but that would have delayed release.
The main reasons IMO are:
1. Star Citizen started it's crowd-sourcing campaign ahead of Elite, thus "stole" the spotlight.
2. The amount of PR that has gone into the SC campaign blows E:D out of the water (so far at least). That first video coupled with a live stream showing of a prototype of SC gave them a huge boost. That FD started their KS with only a logo and a wall of text didn't help either...first impressions and all. ;)
Ship design is a very minor part in this equation IMO.
nice to look back as an original backer to see how the game was developed and what it is now
Kris L from 2 years ago, the have now.
all I can say is look at any star and you can go there. join a forum and get star wars every day
And to quote Roberts some more "The original Elite definitely got me thinking about just how cool it would be to blend 3D space combat that with a cinematic story to create the experience I always craved when watching Star Wars,” - I suspect though you are not old enough to have experienced or understand the birth of the Genre and therefore fall into the category of spotty fanboi. I suggest gaming history 101 to keep up with the "big boys"
And being trapped in Witch-Space with Thargoid battleships bearing down on you ;)
I have second round too. We are eligible for second round beta, but we will probably see lot of youtube videos of alpha as FD don't look forward enforce any kind of NDA :)
My gut is telling me this game is gonna be really really successful like David Breben getting a knighthood levels of success.
Two rounds of Private Beta, One additional (hopefully short) beta round with *all* KS backers.
December, I will guess as first week goes - starting from 2nd date :)
When did I ever say that ship design has NOTHING to do with it? All I said was that I don't think it's the the MAIN reason of why SC is pulling in more funding right now, or the "Achilles heel" as you put it.
When it comes to buying ships the difference is that in SC you can buy an entire fleet of ships with lifetime insurance which, as I have understood it, will be connected to one single game character. In Elite you can choose a ship to start with, but that is the only ship you'll have.
Can't wait!
I hope the Thargoids are in Elite: Dangerous.
Specifications for alpha will be known soon, as they currently testing to give minimum specs.
Getting very excited now :D :D
All backers gain early access during the gamma phase before final launch.
Hrmm.. so my pledge level allows for "2nd round of private beta".. will that be before the "public (kickstarter) beta" (ie. the "gamma")?
Cheers thanks for the info mate
It's good you will be able to walk around - a good step. But again, one has to ask why Elite has generated only a fraction of the interest that Star Citizen has - it would seem ship design is the Achilles heel. If Elite put more effort in ship design they would have way more support. Just an opinion mind you.
Hmm, I remember FFE had something called "Missile Viewer" - fun but useless, unless you wanted to take pictures - i guess that what was left after Braben's experiments with remote controlled missiles.
In what way does my statement contradict that? Yes, you can earn and buy everything in-game, that's actually my point. Buying things with real money takes away the enjoyment of earning these things through game play for me. If you have put a lot of work into saving up enough in- game credits to buy that "special" ship the accomplishment becomes much sweeter IMO.
Of course, everyone can do what they want. That's just how I feel about it.
The only remote piloting they are considering is in guided missiles.
I wonder how the supercruise will work in terms of fuel.
I will surely buy this game
Will the Alpha and BETA only be PC or Mac as well ? Any idea yet on machine specs required ? Might need to go build a new PC!
I'm an original backer - want to upgrade my pledge - was planning on the "private beta test" where pledgers can take part in "second round of private beta test" - When is this second round due?
Very exciting :-)
Sure, selling ships the way SC has done has certainly helped them gain funds, no question. But I have pledged for both games and I don't even want to buy extra ships personally. One of the goals with these type of games is to acquire better ships and equipment through gameplay. Having access to them from day one messes up that mechanic IMO. Your sense of accomplishment disappears.
I have a feeling that is also how David thinks about the issue and the reason for why we haven't seen FD doing it.
Also is it just a combat game or will it be like X rebirth and have trading factories etc?
When Elite's Kickstarter first appeared I'll admit I would have purchased the ships SC style with lifetime insurance, but Frontier chose to not go that route. Fine by me, they don't need to carbon copy each other.
I'm getting a 404 error trying to log into the Elite: Dangerous forums. I'm supposed to have access to the private backer forums. Technical issue on your end or am I looking in the wrong place?
And with the entire Milky Way modelled :).
They will both feature newtonian physics, but in Star Citizen your ship won't have be affected by gravity.
You can buy as many ships as you like once you have earned enough money within the game once it has gone live.
No, you will be able to buy and sell ships in ED. Just like in Elite 2, and Elite 3.
It will be worth buying to watch all the impatient kids try to dock without a docking computer, can you imagine the melt down on the forums if docking was like the original elite. ;)
If Thargoids are not in the game, I will be very disappointed, I think commanders are really looking forward to blasting Thargoids again with plasma accelerators :P
This is getting worse, can't wait to try and play this!
Indeed, I think he fails to understand that both these guys are sharing a vision of cutting out that publisher (I set the rules and ruins it all) and bringing a fresh crowd funded approach to create something very special while traditional business models would have them seeing each other as competition. I loved elite and the wing commander series and that's my it was a no brainer to pledge for both and ENJOY both, two legendary devs sharing a common goal, now that really is a game changer!
Ah.. the lady is back. Nice video.
I have second round of private beta access. Am i eligible for alpha too? Or 2nd round beta onwards?
Will there be an Open Beta or just two rounds of Private Beta and then release?
Ever since - eversince,
Dear Sir will this game have a nice box? Cause I have been wanting one ever-since.