Tesla Model Y Performance Range Test 2023: Realistic Road Trip
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- Full highway range test of the 2023 Tesla Model Y Performance AWD, including genuine recharging time and real-world conditions.
The Tesla Model Y Performance has a standard dual-motor AWD electric powertrain producing very significant amounts of power and torque. But how does it fare for a realistic road trip with 2 adults and plenty of cargo on board, on the way out of Sydney and back again?
Time codes:
0:00 - In this video
0:16 - The rules
0:30 - Tesla’s range claim
0:48 - Previous results
1:15 - Australian conditions
1:30 - The route
2:24 - Highway cruising
3:15 - No FSD or EAP
3:50 - The weather
4:05 - Glass roof
4:25 - Vinyl seat trim
4:43 - Black or white interior?4:54 - Great stereo
5:03 - 15-inch touchscreen
5:25 - Halfway point update
6:30 - Back on the road
7:08 - Final range test result
7:45 - Recharging time
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So - is this enough highway range for your needs?
No.
For me it is. however in the spirit of a real world test did you use the toilets at Goulburn or did you manage to hold it in for the entire trip back to Kirrawee. I bet there are plenty of parents out there that wish their family bladders gave 400+kms of range.
Plenty for 99% of normal use cases
no
Yup!
Just got mine two weeks ago. From 90% to 10%, I get 200 miles. Costs me $10 to supercharge from 10% - 90%. Honestly, it's the best car I've owned. The ride is so smooth and it's insanely fast.
Not too bad. Heavy foot?
@@chasingcars Sometimes the car is just to much fun lol
All the people saying it’s hopeless because of the range are missing the point. Don’t buy a Tesla if you’re always doing 1000km road trips in a day. Do you also comment on Kia Picanto reviews saying that it can’t tow a 3500kg caravan? Same thing!
If you treat other people like this with your opinion, don't be surprised if they treat you the same 🤔
@@53glowe it’s a fair comment. If a car isn’t going to suit your purpose, move on and go buy something else. I’ll never buy a Landcruiser but I know they are good for what they do.
Great and wonderfully produced video. I’m sick of the big car TH-camrs all parroting the same stuff. You presented a nice conversational tone and was super handy in considering a Model Y. Will you do anything with a Y LR ?
Did you have aircon on during the test? Interested in knowing - waiting for delivery of our MYP here in NZ! Thanks.
We keep our range tests consistent. We use very mild air conditioning - fan speed 1 or 2 and the temp is 'cool' not cold.
was the ac on?
Don't mistake WLTP for claimed range on a highways, it is not meant to do that.
Wltp is rather a average commuting trip with less than one fourth highway speed. Since that is how most cars are most used. Wltp is more a measure on how often you need to charge your car with everyday varied driving.
We have driven the MYP for 2500km and the long term average so far is 16.9kw/100ks according to the car.
That's very impressive Sam
Great test Tom. Just remember, highway range is never going to match WLTP because it's based on a combination of urban and highway. I think most users will comfortably get 480km in normal day to dau driving - not that you'll run it down that low or charge it beyond 80% except when heading out on the highway.
All very true. But the classic Aussie road trip means we do need to measure highway, but we wouldn't ping a car for not getting WLTP. It's all about how far the car can actually go in the real world.
@@chasingcars Agreed. I just think some people get confused because most ICE vehicles are as, or even more efficient driving at 110km/h than in heavy traffic. Although I think with stop/start engines that may be less so in a modern vehicle. I've never owned an ICE car with that tech so I can't say. The last full ICE car I owned was my wife's 2008 Hyundai i30 which I can guarantee you got nothing like it's WLTP. Around the city it got no better than 10L / 100km - often worse.
@@chasingcars still don't think people at this stage are buying Tesla's for road trips. They can do it, but really they are a commuting car and if you can charge at home, why would you want an ICE car.
we rented one when we went to mount perisher.
Canberra to perisher with a short recharge at cooma(we want to go up perisher with as much charge as possible) then we recharged again at cooma on the way down before continuing to Canberra (85 to 100) and we arrived with around 77 percent left. without recharging on the way back it seems that we could've made it without a stopover.
5 people, plus snow gear, heaters all round.
good for cruising on smooth roads. horrible at huge road gaps.
I’m getting 265-275 miles consistently for highway driving around 65-70 mph. That’s very good range for something that has 75kwh useable battery and goes 0-60MPH in 3.5seconds
Great work! This is the kind of Korean world’ information we are looking for. Thank you
Glad to be of service
I’d like to see this car’s range in city work as a comparison.
Our Yaris Cross hybrid runs on the battery 60-80% of the time in town, only 10-15% on highway driving.
Really enjoy your reviews. Just a correction though. The model Y performance has a 82kWh battery with 78kWh usable. So actual range based on your avg 17.2kWh usage would be 453km which is pretty good for highway driving where we know EV’s are less efficient.
How safe is the glass roof in case of an accident or when car topple? I believe without roof shade it would be hard to travel during Aussie summer!
Very safe. The batteries are so heavy and low in the car you will rarely see Teslas rolling over. The glass roof is also laminated and heavily tinted already. It’s not so crazy hot even in Arizona for me but you can spend $50 for a shade if you must.
I’d like to see a test just over to Lithgow, back which has a good climb over the mountains. Or to Gold Coast. Every test is done to Goulburn or Melbourne where known chargers are.
To be fair, there’s an ultra-rapid charger every 200 km from here to the Gold Coast, and there is a rapid at Lithgow. We choose Goulburn not because it has a charger (which we didn’t use), but because it’s a fair uphill - downhill return route, and it’s within a fair day’s work for our team, who need to go home to their families at night 😂
So many know-it-alls in the comments. I enjoyed the video and the perspective. People need to chill out in the comments ffs
good to see you've left with a full charge this time
Not that it really matters for a video that is really a consumption test, but yes
I think 450-550 is the sweet spot for range so the MY is close. Our new Ioniq 6 is not really competition for the MY but we are getting around 15 kWh/100km or better on our road trips which have been mostly in mountainous BC Canada with average speeds of @100km. We recently did a road trip of 460km at 14.5 kWh/100 km and still had 15% battery left. That's about 5 hrs driving which is about as long as I want to go without stopping.
Just checking - when you navigated to your turn around point - I assume you didn't enter the SuperCharger address? That might use up energy pre-warming the battery to charge.
We generally allow 15 minutes of preheating - so we put the address in 15 minutes before arrival
Teslas will precondition if you navigate to an SC and so use up energy doing so. If you put your Goulburn address in then it might have used extra energy doing that unnecessarily since you didn't charge.
You didn’t mention your average speed?
Love my Tesla 💞
Cost?
That is pretty good efficiency considering the wheels, the rain, wind, speed and temp that you had.
Can you tell me what average speed, temp outside and what was the wind speed you drove at?
Keep in mind the 514km wltp range is tested at 50km/h at 23C with normal usage AC set to 20 degrees.
Now if you downgrade the wheels to 18 or 19" you will match the taycan easily. The taycan has bigger battery but since model y's efficiency is so good and it is a bigger car this is not bad. If model y becomes equiped with 100kwh battery in the near future I am sure it can reach 600km highway range easily. To compete with chinese cars Tesla will most likely add a bigger and more capacity battery from 2026. Model y has definetly the room for it!
fellow~ Enjoyed~ very incredible ! adios! 🤚
Thanks.
My opinion after testing Long Range vs Performance: LR had slightly softer ride, but P is notably quicker.
Sounds like the LR might be a sweet spot to me
And the LR gives you 50 km more range with the 19 inch wheels
I regularly drive from our Northern beaches (Sydney) home to our second home at Thredbo which is just over 540km each way. We typically top up at Hume ACT with diesel, 340km into the trip on the way down and not worry on the way back. The lack of infrastructure for charging on the route, lack of range and high car purchase cost doesn't present any incentive for switching at the moment but no doubt this will improve in time. The last trip a few days ago in our 2019 Audi Q5 3LT diesel returned 5.7 litres average over 1100kms, cost of fuel around $113 for the total trip. Seems like the electric cars need to be more be city focused and commercial for the biggest benefits, ice cars today have such a long range on the highway nowadays maybe the hybrids should be more in focus for Australia at least the ones that still have a decently sized fuel tank.
Yeah… but several EVs would do that trip comfortably with a 10 minute zap en route while you have a comfort break.
I do the exact same trip most weeks in our MYP and the infrastructure is definitely not lacking. Super chargers at Campbelltown, Exeter, Goulburn, Canberra, Cooma. One short charge either way. Came from a Range Rover and the car has been amazing after 22,000km. So much more efficient that many ice vehicle and better to drive. Just a no brained decision! 👍👍
Great video, thanks for converting the stats into something usable and relatable in real world. What this tells us is that for longer journey, EV still has a long way to go, in your Tesla case every 300km range takes half an hour, provided there's Tesla supercharger on-route and that it's not taken up by others. I am fine with the time it takes to charge, but the range needs to go up by another 50%-100% to make it a more stress-free journey. In metro day-to-day driving and if you have access to charging at home, EV is a no brainer.
Yeah, that’s about right. For me, I’d generally want to stop for maybe 15 minutes every 300-400km anyway, so an 800-volt EV would be more suitable for my desires
I never see videos where people fill up petrol and diesel cars and see how far they'll go on a full tank.
Considering the lane centering and driver assists/auto steer and all of that, the systems on any GMC do all of that except the last "AI" hands-free part. (as if keeping one hand resting on the wheel while it does the other 90% is really any different than self-driving?) So does Honda, Hyundai, and all of the rest now. So it's really not a "feature" when it's now standard on vehicles that cost 1/2 as much. Well, I guess it is considering the upcharge for it? Pretty pricey for basically unlocking some software.
Is there a Y long range in the pipeline?
A Model Y Long Range model has been confirmed for Australia - and I talk through the specs here: th-cam.com/video/1anhIgj6cWE/w-d-xo.html
The long range version has been available since early April in Australia. In fact I have one to be delivered June-July.
A glass roof in our climate ..... you have to be kidding! For that money I would at least expect a retractable blind.
You need to navigate to the charger to get the right temperature in the battery. This way the charging time will be shorter. 7:53 it even tells you in the screen charging is limited due to low battery temperature
We had the charger in the navigation for 15 minutes before arrival
@@chasingcars not enough time rev Sheeran
@@bnpparibassss rev Sheeran🤣🤣
How does that work? Does the car pre-emptively "heat" the battery cells prior to reaching the charger?
@@johnlambert1744 bingo. Best to chart it at the start of the drive and let the cat figure out when it needs to start heating up the batteries for optimal charging
$105,000.00? Thats very realistic for about 2 percent of the population.
How good is the charging infrastructure in Australia? Will you be able to reach Darwin from Sydney without range anxiety?
How often do people actually do that trip though? Buy the car for your needs. If you’re regularly doing that trip, don’t buy a Tesla. If you’re doing your 15-20,000ks a year commuting for work they are great. Same as if you’re towing a caravan don’t buy a Kia Picanto. If I was towing a caravan I wouldn’t even be looking at Kia Picanto reviews.
Interesting review, thanks, Tom. My view is it comes down to horses for courses. If a driver is regularly travelling long distances, carrying a load and maybe wants to tow something they’re arguably better served by an ICE-engined vehicle. If a driver mainly drives in the city and might make a trip of, say, two hundred kilometres a year an EV might do the job. I’m an old guy who hasn’t been on long driving trip for years, literally. An EV might work for me. Thing is, I’m not buying another vehicle until I need one. My ICE-engined vehicle is in good condition so I see no reason to change it. Sure, fuel is expensive but at my age, the distances I drive, and the cost of the changeover it does’t make sense to do so.
I feel bad (not really) for ICE cars for going extinct in a few decades but Kia/Hyundai sell some compelling EVs. It's good to have the charging infrastructure ready.
One of the best well thought cars in terms of super charger network and range… other manufacturers need to wake up
Sydney is no longer Australia's largest city by population - a title it proudly held for over 100 years! It has now been overtaken by Melbourne, which has become the most populous city in the country following a boundary change
Had no idea it was ‘proudly’ held, it was just taken for granted - if Melbourne has expanded to be larger than Sydney, that’s great then
Yeah very interesting. City of Melton got “added” to Melbourne which increased population by approx 150,000. That being said. Melbourne would have most likely overtook Sydney in 2029 anyway. (Apologies for geeking out. I work in Statistics and cannot help myself when someone else also picks up on interesting facts)
@@pieterleroux4841 Depends how we draw the boundaries - the contiguous population of Sydney really goes from Mount Victoria in the Blue Mountains in the west to Shellharbour in the South and apart from a small gap between Mooney Mooney and Mount white it would go all the way to Newcastle.
I often make cross-country travels (500km) at 130-140km/h in my Bmw 118d 2010. It leaves me with half a tank full.
Any EV that suits my needs?
No
Keep in mind these are highway tests. In congested city or suburb settings, stop and go traffic, jams, etc, an EV with excellent regen like this will absolutely demolish an ICE vehicle.
My real world experience of EAP when Tesla provided it as a free trial back in summer is that it is nowhere close to being usable in Australia. I would have paid to have it disabled, and when it's a software upgrade which presumably means little to no additional cost to OEM, you can make your own conclusions as to why Tesla choose to not make it or "FSD" available on their press cars.
Interesting insight. Thanks.
With a 100% charge around 200 km.
Look at the cost of the vehicle though. Driveway price $105,900. You gotta be kidding me to pay that amount of money for a 4 door sedan that's not even considered luxury but a general grocery shopping hack and consider it value. That's laughable 😂.
Have you seen the performance?
@@chasingcars The performance? That's another thing to laugh at. The maximum speed anyone is legally allowed to go in this state is 110km/h or 68 mph and that's outside of the city limits. EV's aren't exempt from that. So what benefit is the super performance to anyone motoring around the city?
i think you need to reference the wh/km rather than per 100km
Our standard measurement is kWh/100km, not Wh/km.
Easy conversion though, 17.2kWh * 1000 / 100
The WLTP “claim” is based on a test procedure with city and high way driving and an average speed of about 55 km/h. It is not surprising that doing only higher speeds will give less range.
To be fair, WLTP figures include a section at 131km/h, which is faster than any legal driving in Australia.
@@chasingcars it does include a section of higher speeds, however since we are looking at average consumption it is far more relevant what the average speed is. Note also that electric cars are actually more economic in a city environment, contrary to ice cars. So by doing only highway driving the electric car will most of the time consume more energy relative to a mixed protocol.
Is there a chance of doing a range test where cars go from one side of either Melbourne or Sydney to the and back again, and back again, and back again………… and see how that compares to an ICE vehicle.
Model 3 performan owner here. I am still taking my BMW X5 M50d for Canberra to Sydney trip, a full tank gives over 1,000km of range, which is still a number no EV we can buy here can match. Also the adaptive lights on the BMW works better than Tesla's.
Yeah Tesla headlights are a danger to any traffic situation. Enough to ban the bloody cars, alone.
My hybrid RAV4 can do over 1000km using less than 50 litres and costs a LOT less than your BMW or Tesla LOL
@@johnlambert1744 my Cirrus SR22 cost a lot less and burns only 18gal per hour but I still want a TBM960 LOL
@@johnlambert1744 have you done that? BEV range vs advertised can be misleading but hybrids advertised economy is often on a whole other level. If you drive 1000km, about 950km will have been on petrol only.
@@EwanM11 100% I have done that numerous times now. I've driven nearly 65000km now in my 2020 RAV4 and averaging 5.0 litres/100km, with the best as 3.9 over a 35km trip (3 times now I've achieved this). On pure highway driving it averages about 5.5 to 6 however, but around town it's about 4.5.
So the Y is an SUV.? Wouldn’t it be better doing the test having say, three more adults and a bit of stuff in the rear like an esky, and other stuff one would take on a trip and then see what range you get?
I don’t think many users put five adults in these cars anymore. We had two adults and a bunch of heavy AV equipment. Pretty honest test. Maybe 2 kids and luggage would have weighed a bit more.
19" vs 20" alloys makes 30 km difference
And this is the TMY performance with 21"!!
So the GV60 is better than a model Y in every measurable way? Interesting
Not sure I made that claim
I have the same car. Loaded with 4 people plus luggage I averaged 18.3kWh/100km over Easter roadtrip of 2200km. (My tyres are 20mm wider)
Sounds about right.
Apart from using the criuse control, not being able to turn off the regen braking on Model Ys is tiring on long drives and steep back roads. You have to keep your foot pressure on the accelerator 100% of the time.
You can always take it off
@Chris Cavalieri and then the car slows quickly without brake lights, and anyone behind you watch out. There is no adjustibility, you cant coast through corners or let the car roll down hills like other EVs.
@@scollyutube No it doesnt. If you slow down enough the brake lights will come on, just like a normal car. Also if foot pressure is tiring why wouldnt you just use cruise control, thats what its for
Get your facts right, Melbourne is the biggest city in Australia!
ok
Small point, but Melbourne is now bigger than Sydney...
Oh, OK then.
@@BigG2G Melbourne’s better than Sydney 😝
Bigger doesn’t mean better, and I’m from Melbourne.
@@richardbuckingham4329 I never suggested that. Just provided a fact check….
Can you repeat the test with 4 people on board, luggage and maybe a surfboard on the roof.
..... and a caravan on tow? Lol
No, that’s not going to be possible in the short term I’m afraid - hope this video is still quite helpful
OMG people, Tesla's at the the moment aren't designed for this type of driving, they can do it, but it's not there primary roll. They are a commuting vehicle for work, shopping, taking kids to school with the occasional trips away from where you live to see family and friends.
They are not camping or holiday vehicle, why do people keep putting a label on these cars which they are not. If you commute to the city or around the suburbs and charge at home, perfect.
The way this tech vehicle is going, in 5 or so years, will have over 1000k's range and cost next to nothing to run. Can't wait to see the big oil companies crying poor.
And on a rainy night with wipers and headlights on
@@kenc8359... also with cyclonic headwinds both ways ...
install a home charger for daily driving. these old world car huys miss the point with EV reviews IMO
This isn't a review, this isn't a home charging / daily driving video, it is a *highway road trip video*
The RWD make more sense 😄😄 an extra 30km range and 3second quicker isn’t worth the extra 30k up front 😃
It’s brutally quick whereas the RWD is just fairly swift. For some that matters. The Long Range AWD will be the sweet spot.
The claimed max range is based off of if you charge to 100% and based off of the perfect driving conditions. But realistically it is recommended that you charge up to 80% for battery health and also using public chargers it is etiquette to not stay plugged in after that and also the charging speed slows down. This is the same for all EV's. So realistically you don't really get the full benefit of the their claimed maximum range on trips that you need to use public charging.
Hmmn...$105k for a car with vinyl seats and the ability to bake your head on hot days. I think the Kia EV6 is a better proposition/features/range for the same money🤔
Kia EV6/Hyundai Ioniq5 are horrible options. Please read up on ICCU issues plaguing owners around the world. The car becomes a brick with months required to replace the unit.
Interesting results, So let’s through another person in the front and maybe a child in the back and some luggage in the boot and try the same test . Maybe a warmer day with the air cond as well and see what the “real world”range would be ? Thinking a lot less . ..
We had two adults and a significant payload in the car, plus air conditioning, so doubtful the results would be significantly altered.
@@chasingcars great thanks for clarifying , presume the camera person and their camera gear was on board to 😊
Tesla advises that if you frequently charge your battery above 90% in the traditional lithium ion batteries which is supplied in all dual motor Model 3 & Y’s you will significantly effect the long term health of the battery.
Maintaining your long term battery health is the most significant issue with EV’s and should be detailed in any review of these vehicles. Prospective new owners need to be made aware of these limitations and the effects on long term ownership.
OK, but this is a road trip video, and so it would quite literally be one of the infrequent times you could charge to 100% for your holiday and not worry about it. Day to day for commuting you’d just set the charge limit to 80%.
why do you guys always emphasize the wltp range like evs are lying, everybody knows that's not real world range
Because it’s a point of comparison, and some cars get closer to WLTP than others. On our Highway test, the Cupra Born was 8% worse but the Model Y was 16% worse - so they’re not all the same.
What lying? WLTP is a mixed cycle at different speeds. And it is a very well known fact that when going faster you spend a lot more energy (air drag and tires rolling resistance increases), so your mileage decreases. Between 80 km/h and 110 km/h there is substantial drop in range. So there is no lying here, just physics. And in "real world" nobody gets to drive at constant 110 km/h.
speak for yourself I drove albury sydney with gos avg speed of 113 and ran minimal risk from cops
Over $100,000 and vinyl seats. Having to recharge at least 2 times Gold Coast to Sydney. That glass roof would turn it into a sauna in summer. I can find many superior vehicles with real leather seats, effortless drive Gold Coast to Sydney, and sunroofs with insulated blinds. I'm not interested in this big boys slot car.
Serious question then - why are you even on this video at all?
I agree about the glass roof, I'd have to buy an after market clip-in sun shade to survive summer. I personally don't care about real leather vs vinyl as long as it's durable and comfortable and easy to maintain (which apparently even the white is). And this model is way out of my price range but watch for future trickle down tech.
this guy bitters
Gee it must be fun driving 9hr with you without stopping. Take a break and recharge 😅
@Mububban23
It's your money you can waste it anyway you like.
Sounds like it isn’t for you then, Buncha, and that’s fine!
How on earth did a car that was supposed to be a practical family SUV has ended up having that idiotic full glass roof??? Which has ZERO use or any kind of advantage, but makes the car heavier, more expensive, more heat in the cabin ( you touch that glass in the middle of summer and you will burn your fingers) , having to buy aftermarket cover, lose range, lose efficiency and so on. Oh, and in case you did not know - they DO break, like all glass does, quite often actually, and then it will cost somewhere around 3000 AUD to replace. Which means you will either keep forking it out of your pocket OR pay A LOT higher ongoing insurance.
Any glass in the roof and ESPECIALLY full glass roofs should be Paid For Options only. For people highly susceptible to stupid marketing BS.
I suppose the reason is because Tesla probably thinks most customers want it
.... also, how does the glass roof rate in a crash or overturned?
@@chasingcars Correct. Can't really blame it on Tesla.
It is the fault of thousands of other car reviewers who (unlike you, Sir) don't seem to even care whether what they say makes any sense at all, who just repeat the same stupid, meaningless cliches. In regards to Full Glass Roofs, you are the VERY rare exception who did not end up with the same nonsense, always going exactly like this: "Oh, and look at this beautiful, beautiful full glass roof! Look how big it is! And..eh..how it adds so much more light!" They NEVER mention a gazillion of real-life problems and real disadvantages full glass roof create. And they never stop even for a second to think: "Hang on, what is there to see up in the sky? Is that even a thing, looking at skies? And through a heavily tinted glass? Especially when driving? No, it is not. And why would anyone need more light when seated in a small box with windows ALL around you already? And if anyone actually wanted more light, why is windows tinting so popular?"
Just to clarify though - I do think that Tesla Model Y is an absolutely BRILLIANT car otherwise, that makes a lot of owners very happy. I just wish it did not have full glass roof. I understand if BMW did it, or Audi did it. But Tesla? I thought they were all about doing things differently. And most of all, I thought they were all about EFFICIENCY and eliminating waste. If they removed glass roof (or made it an option) - surely they could have dropped the base price even more, allowing more people to buy it, advancing EV revolution even further. And without actually losing ANYTHING useful or valuable at all. This is all I am saying.
@@kenc8359 well it was tested recently in Europe and came out as the safest car ever tested. So safety probably isn't the worry.... Heat is though in Oz. (maybe not Melbourne or Tassie)
Don’t want a car with no speedo in front of me. Don't want a car with an interior that’s void of nice looking stuff. Don’t want a car with a glass roof to add to my skin cancers. Don’t want a Tesla.
... and I also want a car that the cabin looks like a car with speedo and tacho etc, not a laptop or laptops on wheels. Lol.
Lucky there are plenty of alternatives.
Speedo can but added, sunroof blinds can be added !!
Well, don't buy one, simple, can you work that out.
Then don’t buy one, no one is forcing you to.
OMG people, Tesla's at the the moment aren't designed for this type of driving, they can do it, but it's not there primary roll. They are a commuting vehicle for work, shopping, taking kids to school with the occasional trips away from where you live to see family and friends.
They are not camping or holiday vehicle, why do people keep putting a label on these cars which they are not. If you commute to the city or around the suburbs and charge at home, perfect.
The way this tech vehicle is going, in 5 or so years, will have over 1000k's range and cost next to nothing to run. Can't wait to see the big oil companies crying poor.
in 5 years? nope. tech un batteries does not obey exponential improvement law. very linear very difficult
@@nyc863 CATL’s new condensed battery supposedly will allow BEVs to go 1000km on a single charge. I’m hoping they are right.
You'd hope by then they dont cost 1.5x a decent car to buy too.
A Cupra Formentor VXE does everything this does, for much less, without the EV compromises..
@@richardbuckingham4329 if I had a dollar for every battery breakthrough announcement I'd have almost enough to buy a full set of weather tech rubber mats for my car. Bringing breakthroughs from lab to production is a very very very slow process.
@@richardbuckingham4329 Agree, people can't see the forest for the trees. Battery technology has gone ahead in massive leaps over just the last 5 years. People, for some reason think something they have now will stay like that for ever. They will get to 1000k range very soon, then they will just say, oh, that's not enough.