The Making of the 1984 Album | 1984 Documentary Episode 3
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- This documentary is not an official or authorized documentary of Van Halen.
Unraveling Van Halen's iconic 1984 album, witness a legendary band's musical brilliance, turmoil, and triumphs in this revealing documentary. And as the band basks in the glory of success, tensions rise, egos clash, and behind-the-scenes drama threatens to tear them apart, ultimately foreshadowing the heart-wrenching events that would eventually lead to Van Halen's dramatic and tumultuous breakup.
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00:00 - Disclaimer
00:16 - Eddie Van Halen plays keyboards for the first time
00:43 - Eddie Van Halen’s fight to play keyboards
01:14 - Origins of Sunday Afternoon in the Park
01:41 - Eddie’s new riff gets jacked by Roth and Templeman.
02:04 - Spring 1983
02:25 - 1984 album deep dive
03:41 - The making of Van Halen’s song “Jump”
10:21 - The making of Van Halen’s song “Panama”
12:08 - The story behind Micheal Anthony’s Jack Daniels bass
13:03 - The making of Van Halen’s song “Top Jimmy”
15:12 - The making of Van Halen’s song “Drop Dead Legs”
16:31 - Allan Holdsworth and Eddie Van Halen's connection
17:27 - The making of Van Halen’s song “Hot for Teacher”
18:24 - Is it a Lambo or drums for the intro of Hot for Teacher?
21:28 - The making of Van Halen’s video “Hot for Teacher”
23:45 - Trivia about the Hot for Teacher video
25:01 - Big brother tries to censor music
27:08 - The making of Van Halen’s song “I’ll Wait”
28:22 - Michael Mcdonald helps write a Van Halen song
31:14 - The making of Van Halen’s song “Girl Gone Bad”
33:04 - Possible unreleased songs from the 1984 sessions
33:58 - Wilson Pickett’s “In the Midnight Hour”
34:39 - The drama with mixing the 1984 album
37:01 - Hijinx and blow with Eddie Van Halen and Donn Landee
38:20 - Did Ted Templeman actually produce Van Halen’s 1984 album?
39:52 - The story of 1984’s artwork
42:23 - Eddie Van Halen dies
43:24 - Why is the album called 1984?
44:06 - Reception of Van Halen’s 1984 album
44:43 - How Michael Jackson may have blocked Van Halen from the no.1 spot
45:39 - Sammy Hagar calls me a liar
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00:00 - Disclaimer
00:16 - Eddie Van Halen plays keyboards for the first time
00:43 - Eddie Van Halen’s fight to play keyboards
01:14 - Origins of Sunday Afternoon in the Park
01:41 - Eddie’s new riff gets jacked by Roth and Templeman.
02:04 - Spring 1983
02:25 - 1984 album deep dive
03:41 - The making of Van Halen’s song “Jump”
10:21 - The making of Van Halen’s song “Panama”
12:08 - The story behind Micheal Anthony’s Jack Daniels bass
13:03 - The making of Van Halen’s song “Top Jimmy”
15:12 - The making of Van Halen’s song “Drop Dead Legs”
16:31 - Allan Holdsworth and Eddie Van Halen's connection
17:27 - The making of Van Halen’s song “Hot for Teacher”
18:24 - Is it a Lambo or drums for the intro of Hot for Teacher?
21:28 - The making of Van Halen’s video “Hot for Teacher”
23:45 - Trivia about the Hot for Teacher video
25:01 - Big brother tries to censor music
27:08 - The making of Van Halen’s song “I’ll Wait”
28:22 - Michael Mcdonald helps write a Van Halen song
31:14 - The making of Van Halen’s song “Girl Gone Bad”
33:04 - Possible unreleased songs from the 1984 sessions
33:58 - Wilson Pickett’s “In the Midnight Hour”
34:39 - The drama with mixing the 1984 album
37:01 - Hijinx and blow with Eddie Van Halen and Donn Landee
38:20 - Did Ted Templeman actually produce Van Halen’s 1984 album?
39:52 - The story of 1984’s artwork
42:23 - Eddie Van Halen dies
43:24 - Why is the album called 1984?
44:06 - Reception of Van Halen’s 1984 album
44:43 - How Michael Jackson may have blocked Van Halen from the no.1 spot
45:39 - Sammy Hagar calls me a liar
Love the Sam bit!
I can't stress enough on the minute I heard van halen play on the radio....1977....on wmms in cleveland....I thought...wow. kiss made a great sound..and ace learned some new riffs...after Matt the cat said it was new from Van Halen and I never looked back.....I miss Ed and what he could have done farther....but I love and respect and enjoy what he gave us
Thank you for this documentary. You really deserve accolades for your accuracy and the fact you aren’t biased.
Just presenting TRUTH
Thanks🤘
Good commentary, but lacks the tracks. Samples.
Although I only watched this part, I have to say great documentary!
Even with all the replacements this is still hands down the best VH documentary ever produced. The VH camp is insane to block this kind of free promotion. The fan service from this should be applauded. As a long long term VH fan thanks a million :)
Thank you! Please consider checking out @tomshreds channel. He did the music.
Bull. Shit. It's garbage. Read the original articles and sources you lazy fucks.
I certainly agree!!! Best Van Halen documentary by far!!! 😊
I don't know exactly who "VH camp" is, but they certainly suck...
Makes me wanna go on a venture, meet Roth, become best friends, and end all this crap...
Music should _not_ be _this_ hard limited
Well, it's not Roth or Mike. @@oliverefremov6633
So sad- the band collapsed upon itself. I’m really disappointed to hear how Eddie treated people. Michael Anthony and his backing vocals were a gigantic part of the Van Halen sound. Through the years he has always held the high ground and he never speaks unkindly.
Michael Anthony was the only member of VH with any class or integrity
@sweetestbluebird look at how people treated Eddie? He was too good for them. Without him, there wouldn’t even have been a Van Halen. He gave them their fame. Rip legend.
@@brittneyking4284 that doesn’t mean he wasn’t a terrible band mate…. RIP LEGEND
@@telecatsermaster they all were terrible to a degree except for the bassist. They were young and ego driven especially Dave.
not really. Sammy was superior and Roth was diminishing
Ever since I was a kid, in the 80s, I've always described Van Halen as "sounding like a party coming out of your speakers."
"We came here to entertain you
Leaving here, we aggravate you
Don't you know it means the same to me... "
Well, Jeff Spicoli hired them!
I saw VH at the Garden during the Fair Warning tour and it did indeed feel like a party.
Van Halen still is a party find your local FM station crank it up
@@CincinnatusPublish VH covered ZZ's "Beer Drinkers and Hellraisers", so there ya go
One of my cousins had 1984 on record. She let me listen to it over and over again. I wanted an electric guitar so bad after that. I was 9 years old when the album came out. I begged my parents for 4 more years and they finally agreed to get me lessons. I'm 48 and still play almost everyday.
There will never be another band like this. Im glad i grew up with this kind of music.
Oh...never be another Van Halen, ACDC, Ozzy and on and on and on. The music industry now has nothing to do with art or even musicians. It's all algorithms and formulas run through computers to spit out crap! Rock....may not be dead but it's in critical condition.
One thing appreciate about TH-cam in the fact that there are a lot of young muscians covering REAL music from when we were kids and keeping it alive. Some talented kids out there. At the same time, it breaks my heart because they'll never get a chance to produce music like up into the early 90s.
@@Sabotage_Labs preach brother, I've been in the music business for almost 30 years and I've recently made the decision to stop touring and just record it home because the majority of the good venues are either closed or they don't want to pay you anymore what you're worth. But you're right Rock is in critical condition but there are a few bands that are carrying the flag high one is Big Wreck fronted by guitar master Ian Thornley, they've been around since about 98 and actually formed in 92. But yeah the business is a mere shell of its former self.
Im just amazed at how you found "sound alike" songs for everything you needed to replace the originals. Well done dude.
Thanks to @tomshreds for that.
Copyright Automation software is a nightmare ; Mostly YT is fair never seen them hammer on so many points like your video; I've been media crossing mp3 and mp4 material to Instagram for some number of time the problems i ran into were usually always with Vevo videos anything Vevo or Tier contract with YT gets clipped although these days IG seems to have completely removed the copyright filter really nothing trips it anymore probably still Vevo tho probably i don't know though Van Halen rules thanks for the video!
@@TheTapesArchive is there a standalone track for the intro tune that's shall we say inspired by Unchained? I'm obsessed by it!
A clear indication of it's banality.
@@patrickmohan2220 The f*ck are you talking about, dude? It's custom music made specifically to replace the originals. Sit down.
God! I saw Van Halen live July 4th 1984 while this album was hot and being played all over the radio and MTV. Probably the most intense rock show I've ever seen.
Wow! You lucky dog!
I saw that tour in Biloxi Mississippi!! Awesome 😎
Saw this show in June of 84 in the second sold out show in Oklahoma City
@@soonergrif yes they were doing double dates because of demand. It was July 4th & 5th in Indianapolis.
I saw them July7 1984 my first concert! I was hooked
With as much respect to Alex Van Halen as I can give - and he has earned this respect from countless fans - I think his desire to control the brand here is an opportunity missed. I wish Alex had whole heartedly backed this effort, as it really gives a wonderful, intriguing look into Van Halen history and lore.
Well said! Thank you!
The same need for control that serves Al well in relation to shunning dishonest thief Sam is a detriment to us fans in most every other way.
@@tremendousslouch883 Ouch! 😵
@@tremendousslouch883You severely misinformed.
VH was my favorite band. Not impressed any more after the CENSORSHIP
I seen them in concert in Houston Texas in 1984 ! Awesome concert! What a time it was ! The 80s rocked!
Girl Gone Bad and House of Pain are my fav from 1984
The guitar on both tracks are amazing. Love I’ll wait as well
So nice to hear a real human voice on this documentary
I hear a bot voiceover and I just skip the video. Hateful invention. Lazy as fuck.
This is excellent, there's nothing like reliving the history, we original Van Halen fans got to experience it all in real time as it was actually occurring. Great job!
Thanks Johnny!
@maruiacancer6 Good Luck!!!!..... with EVERYTHING! ✊️💪👍
To this day the best concert I ever saw. 5-9-80. Lost my hearing. Worth it. When I got home I found out my Sister had committed suicide.
@@LoneLee2022dear god, I'm so sorry about your sister.
@@TheGixernutter Suicide runs in my family.
The Hot for Teacher drum intro is definitely the Simmons - you can hear the sticks clicking on the hard surface.
Agreed
The Lambo story sure is a lot more rock & roll. Now that I have heard different, I'm kinda bummed. It kicks ass either way.
The production value on these docs is outstanding. No small feat. Thanks for your meticulous work.
Thank you! I was literally telling my wife how I need to back off the quality so I can make more content. Then I read your comment. 😅
Fantastic documentary work! This is the kinda thing that Van Halen fans have been craving for years.
It would be awesome if you went back and made similar documentaries for the first 5 albums and the early days too!
Thanks for doing this - this band is criminally under-documented.
Just finished the episode. Excellent work. Sorry about the record company issues. You did nothing wrong, you were telling a story (that no one in the business is telling), you are factual and I learned things I didn't know. As hard as it was to lose Eddie, the fans like me are still here and he left us wanting more. We miss him and the band and would love anything extra we can get. We don't want best ofs, we want what sits on shelves collecting dust that we don't have. To hear other songs were recorded for 1984 that are unreleased is awesome and frustrating all at the same time. To re release a new version of 1984 with all the lost tracks would be BIG. I get excited just thinking about that. Hopefully the record company and all those involved finally make that happen. We want THAT. We want THIS too. This documentary told the story and keeps the Van Halen spirit alive. I loved it.
Thank you so much for the kind words.. Please consider subbing to the channel if you haven't already. That way you will get more videos like this. 🤘🍻
There's an older video of a reporter going into 5150 studio with EVH showing him around. There, EVH showed him walls of tapes that have never been heard. EVH stated they had everything captured digitally on a hard drive which crashed and was unrecoverable but all that music still exists even if it's in uncompleted form. It's now in the hands of Wolfgang and his uncle Alex. What a gift it would be if they someday could digitize it all again and create a documentary type musical album.
Interviewer Chris Gill has confirmed that eddie has told him on a few occasions, and Alex once that the Hot For Teacher intro was all played by alex, with a mix of Simmons electronic drums and the Roto toms used all over that album.
as a drummer, you can even hear the stick clicks on the riot-shield material used on the simmons drum pads in those first few seconds. it’s clear to me that Ted remembered recording the lamborghini for Panama, and misremembered it being used for Hot For Teacher. on a lot of accounts, Ted really “wasn’t there” during a lot of the recording of 1984, so I can imagine he could have misremembered easily.
I agree with you. Listen to any 1984 bootleg and Alex's solo at the end of HFT is pretty much just like the recorded into. I have no doubt that Alex likely played that whole thing live. You make a Simmins floor tom sound similar to the bass drums, add in the roto toms with the left hand and its a masterpiece.
@@wflkurt guitar players and non musicians will tell you it’s “impossible” to play because of one misremembered quote… 2 minutes of youtube searching can bring you enough proof that eddie’s model of lamborghini just does not sound like that… so far ted is the only one that “remembers” it like that and every other piece of evidence points otherwise. i’d say it’s busted by now
@@wflkurt also you bring up one of the greatest points regarding the live bootlegs. alex played the intro, albeit a more energetic and shorter version, live along with his “drum solo” which was that pattern repeated for a minute before the simmons drum crescendo.
the same exact simmons sound plays from the first second throughout the entire intro. im not sure where people started the “first 5 seconds” thing because it doesnt change… not to mention the same simmons sound being in fills LATER in the song!
The synth laden opening of 1984 is a joyous proclamation that says “ Im Eddie and I’m giving you the sound of the future, whether you like it or not “ 🎉
Haha the sound of the future "Jump" competed against "Karma Chameleon " in the charts and morphed into "only time will tell if we stand the test of time " lol hahaha
@@edsnotgod You mean it morphed into the single that gave both Sammy and Van Halen their first ever number one album? Cool.😂👍
@@brianjones8432Meh ...quantity over quality.
@@duncandmcgrath6290 Hey now, don't go bringing Taylor Swift into this.... You're on your own there buddy.😏
nah, it sux
One of my all-time favorite albums. I remember buying the ‘1984’ album at Tower Records in late January 1984. I was 17 at the time.
Awesome job by @TheTapesArchive! I was so disappointed when I heard this documentary was taken down. Glad to see you found a way to get around the B.S. and give us Van Halen fans what we've wanted forever!
Great work man! So honoured to collab with you on such a meaningful & epic project. I itching to watch this the day you first dropped the trailer, but I didn't think I'd be playing on it! 😂 Cheers! 🎸 🤘
Without you the episodes would sound cheeseball. I'm honored to have you play on it. 🍻🤘
Great playing Tom! Thanks to The Tape Archives for putting this together!!
Van Halen is my all-time favorite band....I've even sung in a VH tribute, singing Roth and Hagar tunes.
The makers of these videos are to be congratulated BIG TIME.
I've learned so much I didn't know.....
THANK YOU.
LOVED seeing footage of the SCTV Michael McDonald spoof during the I'll Wait saga. LOL
Just incredible. 1984 was my first concert ever at age 18 and I adore every one of the Roth albums. Eddie was a musical genius, not just a guitar virtuoso, so I'm happy he was able to put more of his stamp on this last Roth era album. I have to admit I didn't like the fact my guitar hero was playing keyboards way back when, but I couldn't deny the catchiness of the songs. Great history and lore from a true giant.
This album doesn’t get enough love. It’s referred to as the “keyboard” album but only 3 songs feature the synthesizer. There are tons of great guitar riffs and solos on here!
The keyboards only accentuate the album. They fit in perfectly.
On what planet does this album not get enough love? Massively popular for nearly 40 years.
I would have thought that most people think it's the best album.
this album got all the love in the world. I remember going around feeling obligated to tell people, I remember when...
Outstanding!!! Thank you for not giving up. It’s sad the record label has not been cooperative. As I have said before, using snippets of the actual songs would only be beneficial to the label, not harmful.
I know, right? I don't understand their reluctance either.
Right on! For me it was more surprising that Al wasn't supported of it but Roth loved it. If Al would have reacted the way Dave did none of this would have been an issue. Thanks for being a subscriber, most people who watch my videos aren't. 🤘🍻
@@TheTapesArchive I also follow you on SteveHoffman. That’s where I learned about this project.👍👍
If they had any other singer, they wouldn't have made it. Dave was one of a kind
Hands down the best work that I’ve ever seen presenting my favorite band as a teenager in the 80s to this new generation of music lovers and filling us old timers with “Oh I remember that”, and “No Shit I didn’t know that” very well done sir.
The powers that be shouldn’t be fighting you, but hiring you and giving you the freedom to present this bands story (which you’ve done with fairness and imagination).
It saddens me that living band members (save Micheal Anthony) and everyone who wants to “Help” the Van Halen brand are doing nothing more then tarnishing the name and music of. They cannot come to terms on doing a memorial concert for Eddie, much less agree on the color of Shieet!!!
Thank you for doing what your doing , and I cannot wait to see more. Two thumbs way up on a job well done laddy!!!
Thank you so much for the kind praise. Of course I agree with what you say too. :)
Their legacy could be so much more. Sadly it probably won't get the respect it deserves until certain people die or relinquish control.
Van Hagar sucked and the cover for 1984 was stupid.
WB and Rhino are not very smart with the cease and desist. Using real music will sell more music
WB have always been real cocksuckers about this shit.
The record companies are idiots. Greedy idiots.
Yup. Fuck em. 😀
I agree. The person's responsible for these types of greedy decisions are blinded by greed. Ed Van Halen was right about the music business being full of greedy jerks.
I don't agree. You can't use copyrighted material to get views and thus money.
Ahhh takes me back..well done,nothing like walking down memory lane! I graduated high school in 84’ so this band since their inception changed everything In my life and those who I surrounded myself with…everybody wanted to be…VAN fuckin HALEN
My thoughts and experiences, well said!!!
As a rabid VH disciple since 1982, I have to say this series (w this particular video), is AWESOME. Really deep stuff that I hadn’t read or heard in 40+ years.
Can’t wait for the next one!
WOOOO HOOOOO!!!!!!!! ITS HERE!!!!! STOKED YOU FOUND A WAY TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN! THANKS BUDDY AND ROCK ON!!!!!!!!!!!!
After reading through most but not all of the comments, there is nothing that I can say that others have not already said..... even though this is not official it really is something special because Van Halen as a band, for whatever reason it may be, never cared to release any archived live concert performances from the DLR days 1978-1984.....VH were the most dysfunctional band in history in my book, and somehow despite all the drama they ended up taking over the world.... I have been a fan since 1978 from the first time I heard "Running With the Devil" on WNEW-FM in New York City until the day my time comes..... as a band, Van Halen is a soundtrack of my life....great job on these documentaries.... at this point now that Eddie is no longer with us, I would bet my last dollar that we will never ever see live concert footage of the DLR years.... Unfortunately they never cared about things like that..... I hope I'm wrong
My two cents...Our grandkids will get to see all the VH media the fans wants to see/hear now. But we will all be dead.
Pffttttt. CSN foibles put VH's issues to shame. The internal frictions in the Stones, too. VH are small-fry in comparison to those bands' fighting.
GREAT episode!!! I'm glad you were able to release it. It's one of the best VH docummentaries. Cheers from Buenos Aires, Argentina.
Dude this is awesome! Thank you!
Hello Tapes Archive! I had the pleasure of watching the first two episodes when they originally dropped, they were excellent. Yet, I must say in all honesty how you have handled this and the way you have crafted this version here to be within your restrictions has brought out a unique, more creative, and just as enjoyable format, that in my opinion actually allows the viewer to focus on your presentation and message far more clearly. Great work, I feel the adversity brought out a deeper creativity here. Pleased to see it.
Thanks for the kind words. I came so close to just saying fudge it and not re-releasing any of it. (It's a lot of work.) But then I see a comment like yours and it makes it all worth it. 🤘🍻
this labor of love will see good, seems like
Honestly I think AVH is obviously going thru alot right now , I believe something great is going to come forth for your efforts, as a fan I thank you . WB are real barons , I hope one day original version can be seen
Thank you for putting this video out. Sorry to hear Alex and Rhino/WB can’t realize that videos like these only HELP to build their audience. 1984 is almost 40 years old! Rick Beato has talked at length about the narrow minded approach of blocking videos by recording companies.
I doubt like hell that AVH had anything to do with it.
@@dukeford8893 you may be right…just going off what the intro says…
This is one of the biggest album's in rock and roll history. You don't need videos for that.
I’m impressed how you framed and presented this unique and appetizing cornucopia of the biographical material that makes this video one of the best on TH-cam. This video is a necessary but rewarding in the history of the band that us “dancing the night away” well beyond “1984!”
This was a really amazing video full of all kinds of tidbits about the band I never knew! One thing that was wild and a bit bizarre was that ‘AI’ of Dave’s voice with a couple of quotes in the video….that was SO spot on it was a bit creepy WOW.
This was brilliant. I love the Hagar jab at the end since he is always lying about his sales in the band vs Roth.
Sammy needs to stfu about anything VH. People don't even play his VH sht these days! If you are out and hear a VH song, you are hearing Dave's stuff. Plain and simple.
Right on! I'm def more of a Roth fan, but I do get Sammy's frustrations with Al now.
I really enjoy your VH docs. Thanks for all the work you put into them!
Glad you like them!
Fantastic, thanks for putting this together!
This is such a great series! Thank you for creating this! Rhino/WB can suck it though.
Wow what a fantastic job you did with this video series!!! Great work! A must watch for any Van Halen fan! Fantastic work🤘🏻🤘🏻
Right on! Please hit that subscribe button if you haven't already. 🍻🤘
Thanks for all your hard work putting this all together
Yet another FANTASTIC video. Thank you so much for this series!
Well done Al. Great job getting around the music and clips. Still has a great feel to it like the first two. Keep 'em coming brother! 🤘
Really glad these are still coming out. Cant believe so much fuss was made over 7 seconds of music in a fair use video.
Dude, I don't get it either. I told them the could own the video if they wanted and played it on VH TH-cam channel. It really bummed me out with Al's reaction, I use to think he was the cool one. If it was up to Roth there would have been no headaches. Thanks for being a subscriber, most people who watch my videos aren't. 🤘🍻
I really enjoyed this deep dive into 1984. It was well done and contained many interesting tidbits I had never heard about. Thanks for the great episode.
Love it!! Thanks to all involved for getting this done so the fans can know what really happened.
Great stuff my man.I learned alot from this that I didn't already know,so thanks for the interesting facts.
I still can't believe Ed left us so soon in this thing we all call life.I feel the worst for his brother Big Al (& obviously Wolfgang) With Ed being the only guitar player that Big Al had literally ever played with & with them being around each other since birth,the loss/ loneliness that Big Al must be suffering from day to day must be simply unbearable mentally/emotionally, not to mention knowing he'll never get another chance to play music again because of his 100% commitment/loyalty to his brother.
dude you have a lot to be proud of. This is so well done despite the legal limitations. Loving VH forever, I've heard most of these stories before, but this presentation is very watchable and fun 👍
The amazing, in-depth work on this doc is simply brilliant. Thanks for producing this for us fans. LOVE IT! VH forever!
AI bots do wonderful work for sure ;)
Thank you for your hard work and for keeping the VH legacy alive.
Great job editing the video to comply with intellectual property laws. The voiceovers and captioning are great, too. And through your detailed research, I learned something new.
May the controversy continue to boost views of this and any more of your VH video releases.
As with the first 2 episodes, this was excellent even with the unfortunate censoring. I also listened to the whole back story on the Dave and Dave podcast and I am even more impressed at the way you handled this whole thing. I think Alex just doesn’t get the whole internet thing and is still living in the world of the 20th century. I don’t think he understands how much he is hurting the legacy of the band by squashing fan made labors of love like this and also not putting out any content of his own. Don Henley is doing the same thing. It would be a shame if future generations did not know the majesty of the Mighty Van Halen. In any case, cheers to you for seeing this through. I watch each episode right away in case it gets taken down again.
Agree.
This is fantastic, and so were the other two. I hope that you are going to make more. Also, it sucks that they wouldn't let you use that footage the way that it was.
Thank you! I'm pretty sure I won't be making any more Van Halen ones after Al's reaction. And tbh with WB/Rhino's reaction I may be done with music docs.
@@TheTapesArchive . Please don't let the bad experience with the VH doc make u not want to do any more videos. These are well liked by us the fans and im sure I speak for alot of folks when I say THANK YOU and please DON'T STOP!!
@@maruiacancer6MAKE IT HAPPEN....... Keep the FOCUS. 🖕 Cancer.
@@TheTapesArchivewtf would he mind a documentary as long as it’s truthful? Oh wait he might not the actual truth to be told. That’s too bad that he feels that way. Some of the comments are that Alex never liked the fans. I hope that’s not he case.
@@TheTapesArchive Dude! Wtf!? Don't be silly! Fvk VH docs then, but PLEASE PLEASE make more Black Sabbath album docs, please! Your Sabbath docs are by far the very best available anywhere, totally and truly invaluable to us fans. You are appreciated and loved for your contribution. Please don't take your gifts away from a world that so badly needs them, I know you got more in you! You're already a living legend. You're a National Treasure and we know we don't deserve you bro, but stay with us anyway. Be well. Respect and good vibes to you, my friend. 👏✌️
That McDonald thing happens in Nashville too;Gotta make sure to copyright&protect ALL your original compositions.People have been known to sing their songs to a record exec,the artist is rejected,but the exec totally remembers the song and has a staff writer rewrite that very same tune!only with different lyrics and a couple of note changes,and two weeks later it's on the radio!!😳
These Van Halen documentaries RULE!! Thank you!
OUTSTANDING. im really glad this was a long episode. 1984 is one of the best albums of all time and clearly one deserving its own deep dive(r down). You did a fabulous job with it and i learned a ton!!!!
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@@TheTapesArchive dude...love your channel and all you do! music love AND documentaries on the subject? dig it. And the fact that you put in all this extra time to edit and deliver the VH doc to we fans is a testimony to your work...its BS that AVH made you do it but a real indication of your character that you did. Thanks buddy
Thank you for this. I was never really a Van Halen fan. It wasn’t that I disliked their music, I just never really got into their groove.
I was 20 and living in Phoenix when the 1984 album came out. I wasn’t impressed with Jump. It received tremendous airplay to the point that I got tired of hearing it. Then the song I’ll Wait started getting some air play and finally got my attention. In my opinion it was Van Halen’s best work ever. I still believe that today because it is sounds like a well written and executed song by a group that started out as a garage band in Los Angeles.
I didn’t know the story behind the song or the album as a whole, so I found this video very interesting.
Doesn't every young band effectively start out as a "garage band"?
@@theboofin Yeah, they do. But most of the time we only know a band once they are commercially successful. I can remember VH when they were just a young band playing at local clubs in SoCal. Young Eddie didn’t look old enough to shave.
Thank you for posting this great video! Brought back some great memories. R.I.P to King Edward.
So happy you got to put this out!!! Thank you! Great to relive all these things we heard about, and or went through back in the day!!! #VanHalenForever
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Great job man! I know this must have been an immense amount of work, especially working around the restrictions. Just a great watch. The band would have done itself a favor by just letting you use the original music and owning its history.
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I loved this video - sorry you had to cut so much video and audio to re-publish it, but I'm still glad you did. It got the information across all the same.
Great video. Thank you😊
Soooooo awesomely!!!!! Go VH!!! The best live band!!!!
Best music doc ever!!! I said it my favorite part is where someone finally corrected Sammy that he didn't out sell Dave in Van Halen 😂 I bet he really called ya a liar too 😂
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The Gold Standard of TH-cam music docs. WAY above the quality anyone else is managing. Keep on truckin'!
Dude ! You should be proud of yourself this documentary even with the blurry picture and other small things is by far one hell of a job
Alan, great stuff here. Listened to your interview on the Dave and Dave podcast. Wasn't this supposed to be longer ? Grateful what we have though don't get me wrong. All your videos are top notch. I guess you had no trouble from the Sabbath camp ?
Thank you! The length I talked about was all the episodes together...Sabbath camp is very cool with me.
I dont feel tardy.....LETS GOOOOOO !!!!!
Thank you for this behind the scenes look, please keep them coming! ❤
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@@TheTapesArchive Can't wait!! Thank you!!
Thank you for all your hard work, passion, creating such a great documentary on the making of Van Halen's 1984 LP (Episode 3). Purchased 1984 LP at Tower Records, when it was officially released. Still in my vinyl collection. Great final chapter with Diamond Dave. Always would crank up the track, "Drop Dead Legs." That solo is freakin' epic. Many other timeless gems on 1984. Cheers for the memories.
AI Roth is better than the real Roth---no laughing after every sentence! Great job again!!!
Right on!
Yeah I was thinking the same thing. Him laughing at himself after he talks is a sign of a narcosis personality trait
Nah ......AI Roth isn't as FUNNY as REAL ROTH......lol ....If the REAL DLR plugged into AI Roth & did his shtick the BLOODY COMPUTER would BLOW UP 🤖🤖🤖💥💥💥🤣😂🤣.....'BORING BOG-BRAINED BOX of BINARY BITS'......lol
Such a great, great, documentary. Thank you
Fantastic work!
Thanks for this documentary.
Regards from Rio
Such a shame that the Van Halens mgmt were silly enough to not allow you to use real footage and audio. Dumb move.
The bigger bummer was to find out Al was not supportive. He could have cleared the way since Roth was for it.
A fan that read Valerie's book said she's the one that bought the house where the 5150 studio was made from a racquetball court . Ed (I'm guessing) was still under the original ripoff first contract with Warner Bros. Because of this , his studio was built with used equipment , some from Sunset Studio , because equipment was getting replaced . Ed had to do it on the cheap because of budget issues . In Hagar's propaganda book , he bitched about the ancient studio equipment for no apparent reason. Further proof he used his book as a smear campaign against the Halen Bros . The book was supposed to be about HIM . From what I've read over and over is Ed and Donn made demos with Ed playing all the instruments for 1984 . That's when Ed pretty much became leader of the band . I like the Michael McDonald story . I loved the interview I read in a guitar magazine where Ed told the funny story how Donn and Ed kept the masters from Teddy Templeman until they were done with the songs . To me it's proof that all Teddy Templeman did was approve of the finished tapes .
That's interesting....Didn't Sammy know about the economic situation ? ...So he criticized the equipment in his book without going into the CONTEXT of Ed's economic situation ? ...Hmmm 🤔....From what I heard despite the old equipment DONN LANDEE did an AMAZING job re-wiring the whole studio so it worked a treat despite the limited budget......When Ed first built 5150 in interviews with Steven Rosen he said he did it for the whole VH production family but Dave & Ted Templeman didn't see it that way because it meant they didn't have so much control over ED as a creative force like they did at Sunset Sound...Ed could record any time he wanted whenever ideas came to him & engineer Donn would be there for him to strike when the iron was hot....To be honest I believe that was the way it SHOULD have been because ED was the main creative force (writing the music) & he needed to be given all the latitude he required...... Sammy wanted to believe he was 'the leader' (as Dave did) but clearly he WASN'T the 'leader' of the band....... ED was the CREATIVE DRIVING FORCE whether during the DLR period or the Hagar period.
@@walterevans2118 I'm no expert on the equipment . To me it looks like equipment . What I like is it looks homemade . Some of the shelving of the professional equipment is just plywood . It was done on a budget and looked cool to me .
@@akfreed6949 Well ED was always doing things on a lower budget when one thinks about it....Whether with building & modifying his own homemade assembled guitars or tinkering around with his amplifiers by connecting them to a light dimming variac. ...He was such an INVENTOR he could take stuff on a lower budget (whether a guitar or a whole recording studio) & with Donn Landee's help use it to come up with better material than with more expensive equipment.
@@akfreed6949 And funny enough ALEX was like this too...Very inventive on a limited budget.. In a recent unearthed Jas Obrecht taped interview with Ed in 1980 he was talking about how his brother would assemble all his own drumkits , buying the shells & making them work to his custom individual requirements.
People who grow up poor & then come into some money later seem to remain frugal in business and certain aspects of their personal life.
This is SO well done- shame that Rhino/WB don't see it that way
Very well done...full of info never heard before.
Absolutely incredible video. Thank you!
Phenomenal work! Thank you!
AWESOME VIDEO. AWESOME ALBUM. I SAW THAT TOUR.🎸I GRADUATED HIGH SCHOOL IN THAT YEAR. AWESOME YEAR.💜
My ultimate decade as a musician towards the last few yrs of the 70's but the 80's was it! Like Eddie my main instrument is lead guitar. But i play k-boards, drums bass guitar n lead n back ground volcals n i am 63. Miss you Eddie n Randy Rhoads.
Jump and I'll Wait are two of my favorite Van Halen songs.
Superb work , this doc is excellent. Well done.
The kid who played young Eddie Van Halen in the hot for teacher video was given that guitar from the video by Eddie. He held onto it for 36 years and sold it for a measley 50 grand in 2020. If he had only held onto it a couple more years,he would have got the 3 million plus for it.
You guys are doing such an amazing job with the storytelling of this era- thank you for this! VAN HALEN FOREVER!!!
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Incredible work! Keep these coming!!!
Awesome stuff!!
What a great documentary on the greatest American band!
Dude keep it coming you’re doing a great job I can’t wait for next episode ❤❤🎉
Great video!
Absolutely incredible episode and top notch production!!
This is an excellent documentary and features great revelations.
Thanks! This is a great doc
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