Final episode! What band should I do my next doc series on? 🤘 00:00 - Start Van Halen breaks up 00:39 - David Lee Roth gets to work after Monsters of Rock shows 01:17 - Pete Angelus's thoughts on Roth after they split 02:11 - Was Roth leaving Van Halen? 03:06 - Is Van Halen still important to David Lee Roth? 03:45 - How did Eddie Van Halen feel about Roth’s solo EP? 04:10 - Highlights that led up to Van Halen breaking up 06:07 - The last time Eddie Van Halen and David Lee Roth were seen in public as Van Halen 06:39 - Why did Roth say that about Rod Stewart? 06:59 - Was Van Halen over? 07:34 - David Lee Roth gets funding for his movie Crazy from the Heat 08:01 - Roth did not quit Van Halen; he was just moving forward with his movie project 08:28 - Jjack Nicholson scolds Van Halen to get along 08:46 - In comes Billy Sheehan 09:35 - Eddie Van Halen see the future 10:19 - Eddie Van Halen speaks to David Lee Roth for the last time 11:22 - Did David Lee Roth quit Van Halen? 13:09 - July 4th issue of Rolling Stone magazine 13:35 - Pete Angelus can’t believe what is being said. 14:32 - Ted Templeman finds out Van Halen is no more 15:43 - Eddie is asked not to use the Van Halen name 16:16 - Eddie Van Halen starts to look for new singers 17:43 - David Lee Roth’s replacement is found 18:22 - The first time Sammy Hagar was considered for Van Halen 18:57 - Sammy Hargar jams with Van Halen at 5150 20:05 - Rolling Stone magazine breaks the dreaded news 21:52 - First public sighting of Sammy Hagar and Eddie Van Halen 22:14 - Eddie Van Halen talks about the new line-up 22:35 - Sammy Hagar takes the first shots at Roth 23:21 - Farm Aid 23:58 - Brenda Lee and Goofball Mchee introduce Eddie and Sammy 24:38 - Sammy Hagar curses on live TV 25:13 - Sammy Hagar and Eddie Van Halen perform live in public for the first time 25:50 - How you can tell if you are talking to a cop 26:22 - Correcting one last David Lee Roth embellishment 27:13 - My thoughts on why Van Halen broke up 28:29 - Thank you Van Halen! 29:13 - Credits…More in the description
Thank you TheTapesArchive, for this documentary, and all of the research, the hard work, the edit, and the crazy that went on getting this to the people. I truly love this doc. So much appreciation to you! Can’t wait to see what you have in store for the future. Take care. Wishing you the best!
Fantastic episode. The ENTIRE documentary is phenomenal! Loved it from start to finish. As for what you should do next. Honestly, I think it's pretty easy. Do the Van Hagar years while also doing the DLR years (Eat 'em and Smile anyone?) and once you knock those out, you then have the Reunion Tour with DLR story to tell. Anyone else with me on this?!
Outstanding series! Thank you for this! My favorite was Mikey's thought bubble "I wish Ed looked at me like that." That actually spoke a thousand words.
I have never heard a more perfect synopsis of Eddie and Dave’s relationship than what you said at the 27:11 mark “In the beginning….” That is exactly spot on! The best partnerships are where people bring different but equally as strong skillsets to the cause. Dave was the quintessential Rock Star and Eddie was the mad genius. But like most partnerships that thing that makes them great is also what makes tears then apart. I respect and appreciate both men, I don’t blame either. It was what it was. RIP Eddie, and thank you both for being the soundtrack of my youth!
Alan....THANK YOU IMMENSELY for this incredible documentary. Ive read a LOT of Rock bios and watched a ton of rock docs and this one is, hands down, one of the best ive seen. Your level of research combined with great story telling chops and amazing editing/effects...just...wow. The fact that you pulled this off without formal backing AND having to pivot and edit the final product to accommodate a dissenter (sigh) and still come up with this amazing historical time capsule is really something special. I will be rewatching this endlessly and spreading it to all my music loving buds. You are the best...keep on creating...its your calling. Peace .n. VH (symbol drawn on all my old school folders) 3tof
Right on 3 toes! I know you have been a big supporter and I appreciate it. I'm just like you, read Rock bios, watch Rock docs etc. So when making this I always have in the back of my mind people like you etc and not to make it crappy. After watching Reelz VH doc, I thought man I could do a better job. haha Sounds like by your words I did. Haha my folders too. It was one of the only band logos I could draw. 🤘🍻
This is exactly how I feel about this series, and all of his videos! Thank you for putting it into words in a way that I cannot, and thank you to the creator of this video for giving us such great content to enjoy!
Amazing video!! I know someone already said it but the ending almost brought tears to my eyes. Van Halen is a legendary band!! RIP Eddie, you are very missed. Still can't believe he's gone.
You talking about the bassist who never wrote one song or lyric and became a millionaire in one of the greatest Rock bands of all time. Aww, Poor guy...lol
Fascinating that Ed and Dave showed up in public together as late as April of that year. That was a new twist I didn't know about. I thought it was all over by then.
Great stuff! The original line up was my absolute favorite band of all time. Everyone in high school had their fav band and mine fell apart. It was a kick in the teeth/punch in the gut. To this day no other band on the planet has had such an effect on me as the original Mighty VH! Thank you so much for the series, it was amazing!
Van Halen's first 4 albums are their greatest works, after that they sucked, Diver Down, 1984, that was just pop nonsense and not what'd made them great, when their first album came out in 1978 in the middle of all that Disco nonsense it was like a breath of fresh air, but after their 4th album when MTV took a hold of them I think it went to their heads. I was in the Army when they broke up and frankly didn't care, and as far as I was concerned Sammy Hagar joining them was his downfall to, Montrose and his first few solo albums especially Standing Hampton were fantastic, after he got with Van Halen it seems like their egos feed off each other and inflated to Mt Rushmore size fluff. But those first 4 Van Halen albums will always be the only one's I've ever owned, and have always owned.
I really really really...cant express my appreciation for this docu. As a monster fan of Van Halen...this just kicked some ass !!!! Thanks a ton for all the hardwork !! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
You need more pics of Dave wearing assless chaps, when Sammy implied he was gay....I mean not even Freddie Mercury pulled off the assless chaps look on stage...
Excellent and well done. I am blessed to have seen VH from 1980 to 1984. I wouldn't trade those days for anything. I hope you do something with Journey maybe, or DLR solo career.
I love all Van Halen. Yes, even the Gary Charone time. This is a great tribute to that particular time period in Van Halen's career. I would love to see more episodes from the other eras in the amazing VH career. 🤘
there should be a video or two about the endless nasty cusses that wont let that go, YOU WERENT IN THE BAND so get over it baby@@Rob_Kates matter of fact, Wolf and Mikey are GREAT FRIENDS. Simple Google search about the recent meetings between them should clean your diaper. Peon whiners have no integrity
I lived in North Hollywood in the mid 80s. I remember seeing Ed driving in his Lamborghini on Ventura Blvd many times. He rented video tapes at a place called " 20/20 Video " by the Ralphs supermarket off of Ventura like we did. I went in there once with my Dad and the guy at the counter asked " Do you like Van Halen ? " I of course said " YEA "... He said , " Well , there he goes ! " Ed was walking out the door. I just watched. I would've never approached him when I was 15. I wish now that I would've at least tried !!! Lol
@@MajorLeageSchill33-vu7pe Funny you'd mention that. The 1st interaction I had with him he played the "starving artist" role to a "T" Oscar winning stuff and just after making Black Sabbath look silly. Fast Forward to the 5150 Tour. Totally different guy. I've heard he remembers very little of that tour. That would be a good thing. I'm sure he was burnt, drunk, and tired but the vibe was a total 180. God could that dude play guitar! I had goosebumps during warmup.
If only they had just taken a few years off from each other, did their own thing in the meantime/got cleaned up, they could have carried on later with renewed enthusiasm. Time off from each other was clearly what was needed, and neither faction were subsequently anywhere near what the original band did. Ah well.. Great doc anyway! Excellent work, & thanks for doing it.
Wow, I’m just speechless. I can only hope the band sees this, and the comments and realizes how much Van Halen is loved and how important they are. This isn’t just some fucking rock band; this is the mighty Van Halen. Long live the King!
This was a fantastic documentary! I learned quite a bit. I was a young kid back then so in the late 80s when i brought this up only had word of mouth to go by. Thank you so much for this amazing video!
You know what’s crazy, 1984 is a great album. Every song is excellent. I hate to see people talk bad about the Sammy Hagar era of VH because it was Eddies idea. He was the one who wanted to go in a different direction and asked Sammy to come join the band. He really wanted to expand on the keyboard aspect of song creation and did what he did with that in mind I think (in my opinion).
I was for Sammy til he went diva . He blamed Ray Daniels BUT Ed explained it before Ray became manager Sam started bossing Ed around . In a compilation of Van Halen clips ( on TH-cam Howard Stern )is a couple of clips of Sam saying things like " This is MY band . " . And in the next clip he says " Leader of the band lead singer of the band what's the difference ? " Sam's big ego and mouth is to blame .
1984 title track is useless filler, top jimmys one of my least fav vh songs, and the overall track count is the lowest of any vh album and house of pain was better on the zero demo. That being said girl gone bad is a fucking masterpiece
28:33 I'm not crying 😢 thank you so much for bring the history of the best hard rock band of all time. They were untouchable at their prime. VAN HALEN RULES FOREVER❤❤❤
Endlessly fascinating band! They were my favorite in high school and this was such a well put together documentary. You deserve all the praise you get for the research and effort!
I believe the 'reference' was an episode of "The Bionic Woman" being filmed in the backyard of David Lee Roth's fathers house. Several VH photo shoots were done here as well.
Funny you mentioned the Bionic Woman . Lindsay Wagner owned the house next to Valerie and Ed's new house . She already lived next to the house they just bought . That's when he turned the badminton court into his practice studio . They had to buy her house because he was so loud .
Fun fact: A porno movie (Sacred Sin) was shot at Eddie's house before he reunited with Dave. He even wrote music for it. His second wife was an ex-porn publicist. Funny...you'd more expect Dave to be involved in porn.
All the stories are interesting, but the music is what gets me every time. I will listen to it until I go deaf or die. Thanks to everyone that made all of the music happen, it was/is great!!!
Excellent series by far the best documentary I’ve seen made for Van Halen. this gave me a new perspective on one of my favorite bands of all time. I really enjoyed this 👏 nice work. Rip Eddie 🎸
Great job Alan! Really enjoyed the whole series. Lots of footage I've never seen before, which was awesome. Sucks that Alex and VH wouldn't let you use the music, as that would have put it over the top, but you adapted well and made it the best it could be. Congrats!
Well done Tapes Archive, for all your painstaking research, the many hours of editing & wonderful story telling. You can be fiercely proud of the body of work you have gifted us.
Thank you so much for all of the episodes of the 1984 Documentary. You went through some S**t to deliver it to us out here in TH-cam land (thank you Alex!!!!!!!) . Superb job. Look forward to your next project.👍
I gotta say this might be the best fan-made documentary I've ever seen it is absolutely phenomenal and that's being said with the music taken out of it. You still managed to do a kick-ass job. Phenomenal!!
Thanks for the great work. I especially appreciated the ending and the props on how the original 4 could never be duplicated. I also would have loved to see a quick comment on the backstory of Me Wise Magic and Can't Get This Stuff No More. Those 2 songs proved how they should have never broken up and what might have been. I would love to know if Eddie was happy on how those songs turned out. They sure captured the classic Van Halen sound.
They brought it to a new level. The production was amazing. Edward was actually cool again and took risks and innovated on the music. Dave brought the spice. Michael and Alex were there. Those two songs were the last hoorah. ADKOT was a mistake.
@@jamesragsdale8202 Id rather listen to ADKOT than any chicken💩 album . I used to be a big Sammy Hagar fan in Anchorage Alaska til he lied about loving playing up here and he's coming back up after his gig promoting VOA . In his 🐂💩 book RED he said the band cancelled the Alaska tour of promoting 5150 because of a SNAFU . That's a lie . When OU812 came out , I told an employee of our city sports arena I can't wait to see the band finally come up . He told me the band will never play with Hagar in the band . And they never showed up till Gary Cherone replaced Candyass . He told me why. Even though he told everyone he can't wait to play up here again , he found out he didn't sell out . He was a handful of tickets short of a sold out show . The diva threw a hissy fit and told the arena manager he'd never play up here again . And the 🐱 never did . I don't hate him for his lies about coming back up or keeping the band from finally playing up here . I hate Sam because he won't STFU and stop lying . The 🐱 quit .
Awesome! For me, Van Halen as a band means one thing: Edward, Alex, David, & Michael. As a guitarist, I love all things Eddie. This documentary has done a great job of taking us down memory lane & allowing us to learn a few new things about the mightiest version of a one of a kind band that we all loved. Thank you.
I use to think like you. In the beginning I almost reluctantly listened to Van Hagar. Mainly because of what Fave meant to me. Sort of a stick by your friends attitude. Even though I was also Sammy fan and had most of his records. But as time went by I realized it’s not one or the other they are both equally great. Different but both great. And let’s face it, Sammy is a much more gifted vocalist and Those Van Hagar songs stand on their own. Don’t judge it just take it in ! ✌️
Considering that Van Halen is no more and Eddie has passed it's a great time to be a Van Halen fan! With the release of these awesome documentaries from Allan, the Donnington concert footage, the new box sets, Mammoth 2, the plethora of great Van Halen related books released in the last couple of years I would say that us Van Halen fans are pretty fortunate as of late.
Edward is ridiculous. The Rolling Stones did not break up when Mick took some time to make a few movies around 1970. Keith Richards did not throw a hissy fit and kill the band. EVH did. If anyone feels bad for Edward just imagine Keith Richards trying to take control of the Rolling Stones in 1970 building his own home studio and refusing to work elsewhere firing the producer and lead singer because they sometimes wouldn't greenlight and actually rejected some of his guitar riffs mocking Mick's movie career crying about waiting for him complaining that he asked Richards if he wanted to contribute soundtrack music then Richards goes out and finds a lame replacement for the Rolling Stones. Ridiculous. Now imagine Richards replacing Mick with Hagar. We would have had 50 years of Hagar singing Satisfaction and nerd Hagar fans complaining that Mick danced around too much in the late 60s repeating forever that Hagar had more of a range than Jagger as if we all cared about range instead of the singer being a cool bad-ass with charisma swagger and chutzpah versus a nerd. It was all so absurd insane and lame but it happened. VH was killed by EVH. The Rolling Stones was not killed by KR and continue to this day. The Rolling Stones even have a new single out today September 6th!
Mick Jagger's fantasy is the solo success of " Crazy From The Heat / Eat Em and Smile " and Keith knows it. Edward stated multiple times that he would have continued working with David , had he not quit.
@@markfloresmusic That is complete and utter nonsense! Dave did not quit. Dave would have done his movie and Van Halen. Dave would have resumed fronting Van Halen at any time. There were tons of behind-the-scenes efforts after every album and tour.
@markfloresmusic Can you imagine Roth looking on as his replacement not only fit the bill nicely but took the outfit to new heights?! Sales and reviewers agreed!
@@Vibeagainno critic or music historian agrees. The only Van Halen that is iconic and groundbreaking and innovative and influential is Classic Van Halen.
Loved the shots(s) of Dave Chapelle as Price in the montage. Sneaky, and very funny! Excellent job all around, thank you for all the hard work you put into this!
I'm very happy to see Allan give some recognition to the Dave and Dave Unchained Podcast. I really enjoyed the interviews he did with Dave and Dave. I would highly recommend that Podcast to any serious Van Halen fan!!! Those guys rule!!!
We were lucky to get two eras of the same band. We got all those great records from Ed, and a different side of him we’d never heard otherwise. And, we also got Eat em and Smile, and the dynamic duo of Steve Vai and Billy Sheehan was unleashed on the world. All of it was next level. We were lucky to get all that. We’ll never see the likes of either again in this lifetime.
Vai & Sheehan were brilliant players. But I don't think the WRITING was as memorable with the DLR Band as it was with Van Halen......'Goin' Crazy' was kind of borrowing Ed's abruption picked chords from 'Little Guitars'. And 'Shyboy' intro (with guitar & bass) was kind of an attempt to outdo Ed's intro on Hot For Teacher. It was top guns musicians trying to replicate what VH had already done. Although 'Good Times' on Skyscraper was a poignant good song.
Eddie was right when he said there is no band without him,even Wolfie agreed when he told people, that is no Van Halen without his dad. While the band went on to be as popular with the Van Hagar era, there was always a split between the classic band and Sammy's,but as long as Eddie was there, the music went on, until sadly when we lost Eddie to cancer! The saddest day in music, R.I.P. Eddie❤🎸😢
It’s too bad Wolf thinks he’s honoring his dad by not putting out the unreleased music instead of celebrating his fathers music with the world and sharing his truly wonderful gift of writing and playing
@@hkydave1964 That legacy? Is best served with what Eddie released, as what's in the vaults? Besides all the live tapes going back to their Mammoth days, is most likely noodling and bits of guitar riffs. Things Eddie himself said wasn't worth being released, because all the good stuff was already out there(his words)
@@edwardblack9680 That is as ridiculous as its ignorant! Every album that they released went number one and sold millions! They continued to sell out arenas across the country for years! Do some research before making a fool of yourself!😖🤣😆
@@MrRugbyloosehead I think you need to do the research. #1 designation does not speak to overall record sales. Here’s what Eddie had to say about those number ones… "But being number one doesn’t really mean jack fuck all. We sold twice as many records as other records that year “1984”that landed in the Number One position." Eddie Van Halen
What he says at the end in that VH with its original lineup was the thing that elevated them to iconic status is absolutely true, but if Sammy hadn't come along when he did, we might have lost this band at a time when they were at their peak. They had all honed their craft to perfection and were at the top of their game. Those Van Hagar albums were fantastic but different. I was too young or really never got the opportunity to see the original Van Halen lineup in concert but I did get to see them with Sammy. I'm just thankful we got a few more years and a few more albums to appreciate them.
What? They were 30 years old of course they weren't done. VH ended in 1985. All you got after that was the EVH solo project. Just like GNR was killed in 1993 and all you got after that was the Axl solo project.
Great documentary, Alan. The enjoyment I felt from watching this VH series greatly enhances my love for their musical output; much the same as the books recently released by Monk, Renoff, and Scanlan. Keep up the wonderful work, Dude!
I will always maintain that Roth was fired. I never liked him for a ton of reasons but seeing how they treated Michael and Hagar many years after the fact, it became clear (to me at least) that the VH brothers always circled their wagons and shut others out. One thing Roth never did was trick the fans. He may have been a clown who staged everything but he never duped anyone.
Whatever happened between Hagar and Ed was Sam's BIG mouth . It wasn't Ray Danniels being the new manager . Ed clarified that in a guitar magazine interview . Ray watched Sam start to boss Ed around . That was a big mistake on Sam's part . When he was promoting his POS book RED he said so himself it was HIS band . There's a video compilation where Sam said " This is MY band . " and right after that clip he said " Lead singer of the band , leader of the band, what's the difference ?" . What Sam didn't put in his book is where Sam said something to really really hurt and piss off Ed . This is when Ed really stuck it to Sam and rubbed his big nose into his own bullshit . Like Captain Candyass said in his book , he didn't want to do the Twister soundtrack , BUT he didn't anyways . And in my opinion this is the difference between the Halen Bros and Candyass . Ed never bragged about how he treated Sam to do the Twister soundtrack . He could've really stuck it to Sam publicly and said " The little f#cker said something to me and pissed me off so I made him my bitch and made him do his job . " . That wouldnt be polite . There are things they wouldn't talk about because it would be rude and disrespectful . Never forget , it was Sam that did most of the anti-Dave crap even when it got old @ the end of the 5150 tour .
@user-rt9zq8rs9k Sam was always a poor sport with a big ego. What kind of narcissist a-hole gets the PRIVILEGE to join the biggest band on the planet and refuses to play any material made before he joined outside of a few songs? I cannot name one band that happened to. Not Deep P, Ac/DC, Sabbath, Motley etc. All their replacements came in did their damn jobs while showing respect to the bands legacy.
@@BruceStephan Who's 'Captain Candyass' ?......lol.....I wouldn't have thought Sammy was 'candyass' because he was a boxer....I find the stuff about VH manager RAY DANIELS really confusing to be honest. I don't know WHAT to believe anymore.🤔 I mean there was this guy called 'The Count of Toulouse' on here commenting on these videos that claimed that Ray Daniels targeted Eddie & totally destroyed the band by turning him & Sammy against each other. But then there were others who say that this was a fiction invented by Sammy & point to discrepancies in Sammy's account of whether he resigned or was fired from the band & the chronology of events with the short lived DLR 1996 reunion... Some claim that Ray Daniels was only in it to make money out of the band but then others come in & say that Ray Daniels encouraged the band to do stuff for charity which would totally contradict this. On the Twister Soundtrack Sammy claimed that the films director Jan De Bont was on HIS SIDE approving of his lyric contributions but according to Ed in a 1996 Steven Rosen interview he said that De Bont had specifically said to Sammy -'Do not write lyrics about Tornadoes' .....& then Ed said Sammy came back with total Tornado stuff with all these research technical terms ('sky turning black, knuckles turning white. Headed for the hot Zone').....@user-rt9zq8rs9k did you see any interview materials that said WHAT Sammy said to Ed that p*ssed Ed off so much ? ....I know its all gossip/water under the bridge now but knowing it might make Ed's responses become more understandable to us.... Was Sammy cruel to him ? ....I know Ed was more sensitive a person than Sammy & Sammy could be a bit of a macho 'bull in a China shop' . Even if he was one of the best Vocalists in rock ever.
@@BruceStephan Sammy's book was kind of shocking really. I mean I've read the chapter & interviews where he boasts that Ray Daniels was scared of him which is not something people should brag about ....I mean , that's what bullies do isn't it ? I won't repeat what he wrote. It was kind of horrible... I think there was a lot of post facto ANGER in Sammy when he wrote that book because he felt he had been rejected. & that anger was him lashing out. I believe that after Ed passed away Sammy did actually REGRET writing some of the things he wrote. Particularly about Ed . And perhaps he shouldn't have sounded off on Alex either because of how much he was drinking back then. Alex didn't need to be reminded of that. Because both he & his little Brother lost their FATHER at 65 because of alcohol & when Alex suffered from losing his Dad he walked away from alcohol. 😔 But whenever I hear the historical conflicts between Ed, Alex with Sammy (& Mike) I think back to days in 1986 on Live Without a Net video. When it was 'All for one. And one for all' with no BITTERNESS....But just JOYOUS CAMARADERIE....Even if idiot Evans does sound like a sentimental old fool 😟😔
I’ve been saying it for about 15 years, Dave needs needs an updated autobiography, a really good honest tell all. I’’m not sure if we could get it out of him but it’s nice to think about
Awesome video as always, man! Maybe you could do a video exploring Dave's solo career? There's A LOT to cover - the Vai/Sheehan collaboration and further exit from Dave's band, finding Jason Becker then sadly parting ways with him due to ALS, his Vegas stint, the risky Your Filthy LIttle Mouth...
Thank You Tapes archive for giving us VH fans something new, yes, a few bumps in the road but still you gave us fanatics something to relive. Thank you.
Great work! I’m grateful I lived through these years and had their music as my soundtrack track to my youth/teen years. To me, they were the best band.
Thank you! so much for all time and effort youve put into this documentary very weill done ! And yes without a doubt one of the greatest bands ever whose music will be relevant for a long time Long Live the Mighty Van Halen 78-84! Thank you Ed(R.I.P), aAex , Michael and Diamond Dave!
This is fantastic work! Thank you for all of your efforts!! This is stellar series of documents for one of the most important bands of all time. At minute 5:25 you ask if anyone gets the reference of the video clip. Is it depicting the backyard of the Roth mansion in Pasadena?
Thank you for this series. Superb I learned a bunch. Looking forward to whatever you put out next. The sabbath and Steve vai ones were brilliant. Keep it up dude
Thank you , thank you, thank you for this series. Absolutely masterfully done. I am sorry you endured the legal bullshit that you did but as a life long fan of the Mighty VH I am so appreciative of the research and time you took to bring this to us. RIP King Edward. An era has ended and we'll really never be the same without the music AND the drama lol!
Hats off man. This was a grear series of episodes. Great ride to enjoy the might Van Halen still a little more. Hopefully there is more VH related material on your channel. Cheers from Argentina!
Absolutely loving that list of potential replacement lead singers at around 16.40 through! Imagine what could have been, cheers marin on vocals, backed by Pete Townshend playing rhythm guitar, before making way for a rockin solo from EVH! The eighties, what a time, man! What happened?
It was amazing, and B.S. that possibly the biggest press that the band ever got was the time between 1984 and 5150 because they were (supposedly) breaking up/ DLR leaving. I remember that "Unbelievable" time like yesterday, It STILL is a Raw Nerve, kind of like a parents divorce.
I heard the bass player say it was because of Dave after the break up, and the rest agreed. Then later on I heard Sammy say he didn't like what Ed was doing, (not playing very well) but didn't know he had cancer, and would have been more understanding if he knew. So I think the original break up was because of Dave? Heaven knows his ego exploded, and like you show here, Eddie was writing material that required another player, and I doubt Dave would have liked someone else sharing the spot light. Eddie said with Sammy being able to play guitar too, it allowed the band to go anywhere then and they all liked it. Don't ask which video's I heard this from, because I don't remember. 🤷♂ But they're out there.
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Final episode! What band should I do my next doc series on? 🤘
00:00 - Start Van Halen breaks up
00:39 - David Lee Roth gets to work after Monsters of Rock shows
01:17 - Pete Angelus's thoughts on Roth after they split
02:11 - Was Roth leaving Van Halen?
03:06 - Is Van Halen still important to David Lee Roth?
03:45 - How did Eddie Van Halen feel about Roth’s solo EP?
04:10 - Highlights that led up to Van Halen breaking up
06:07 - The last time Eddie Van Halen and David Lee Roth were seen in public as Van Halen
06:39 - Why did Roth say that about Rod Stewart?
06:59 - Was Van Halen over?
07:34 - David Lee Roth gets funding for his movie Crazy from the Heat
08:01 - Roth did not quit Van Halen; he was just moving forward with his movie project
08:28 - Jjack Nicholson scolds Van Halen to get along
08:46 - In comes Billy Sheehan
09:35 - Eddie Van Halen see the future
10:19 - Eddie Van Halen speaks to David Lee Roth for the last time
11:22 - Did David Lee Roth quit Van Halen?
13:09 - July 4th issue of Rolling Stone magazine
13:35 - Pete Angelus can’t believe what is being said.
14:32 - Ted Templeman finds out Van Halen is no more
15:43 - Eddie is asked not to use the Van Halen name
16:16 - Eddie Van Halen starts to look for new singers
17:43 - David Lee Roth’s replacement is found
18:22 - The first time Sammy Hagar was considered for Van Halen
18:57 - Sammy Hargar jams with Van Halen at 5150
20:05 - Rolling Stone magazine breaks the dreaded news
21:52 - First public sighting of Sammy Hagar and Eddie Van Halen
22:14 - Eddie Van Halen talks about the new line-up
22:35 - Sammy Hagar takes the first shots at Roth
23:21 - Farm Aid
23:58 - Brenda Lee and Goofball Mchee introduce Eddie and Sammy
24:38 - Sammy Hagar curses on live TV
25:13 - Sammy Hagar and Eddie Van Halen perform live in public for the first time
25:50 - How you can tell if you are talking to a cop
26:22 - Correcting one last David Lee Roth embellishment
27:13 - My thoughts on why Van Halen broke up
28:29 - Thank you Van Halen!
29:13 - Credits…More in the description
AB -SO- LUTE- LY bad ass job! Thank you with a million guitar arpeggios dotted with pull offs, legato hammer-ons, and whammy bar squeals.
continue with van halen, 85-96. im sure you could probably even get Sammy to talk, he likes to talk about van halen
You've got way too much time on your hands bro who cares
Take a pill dip shit - you are not my boss go spit @@leescheeler1503
Dude. You have to do Van Halen with Sammy!!!
This is amazing, excellent production, funny, amazing editing, this is better than most big budget studio backed documentaries out there.
Thank you TheTapesArchive, for this documentary, and all of the research, the hard work, the edit, and the crazy that went on getting this to the people. I truly love this doc. So much appreciation to you! Can’t wait to see what you have in store for the future. Take care. Wishing you the best!
Fantastic episode. The ENTIRE documentary is phenomenal! Loved it from start to finish. As for what you should do next. Honestly, I think it's pretty easy. Do the Van Hagar years while also doing the DLR years (Eat 'em and Smile anyone?) and once you knock those out, you then have the Reunion Tour with DLR story to tell. Anyone else with me on this?!
I think the VH years from 1996-2007 would be good even though there was only one new studio album and 2 greatest hits albums.
After all the grief he got from the VH camp...this will probably be his last VH doc ever...
Well, it wouldn't take long to cover Roth's solo career
EAT EM AND SMILE/SKYSCRAPER era would be awesome
They put Dave on a shelf for 28 years. 😞
Outstanding series! Thank you for this! My favorite was Mikey's thought bubble "I wish Ed looked at me like that." That actually spoke a thousand words.
Thank you Van Halen and thank you TTA for putting this amazing documentary together! Cheers! 🎉
*Thanks TTA, great job as always. We appreciate your hard work. The AI voicing Dave's printed quotes was amazing!*
These are wonderfully made and a treasure for true VH fans. Thank you for doing these
I have never heard a more perfect synopsis of Eddie and Dave’s relationship than what you said at the 27:11 mark “In the beginning….” That is exactly spot on! The best partnerships are where people bring different but equally as strong skillsets to the cause. Dave was the quintessential Rock Star and Eddie was the mad genius. But like most partnerships that thing that makes them great is also what makes tears then apart. I respect and appreciate both men, I don’t blame either. It was what it was. RIP Eddie, and thank you both for being the soundtrack of my youth!
Alan....THANK YOU IMMENSELY for this incredible documentary. Ive read a LOT of Rock bios and watched a ton of rock docs and this one is, hands down, one of the best ive seen. Your level of research combined with great story telling chops and amazing editing/effects...just...wow. The fact that you pulled this off without formal backing AND having to pivot and edit the final product to accommodate a dissenter (sigh) and still come up with this amazing historical time capsule is really something special. I will be rewatching this endlessly and spreading it to all my music loving buds. You are the best...keep on creating...its your calling.
Peace .n. VH (symbol drawn on all my old school folders)
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Right on 3 toes! I know you have been a big supporter and I appreciate it. I'm just like you, read Rock bios, watch Rock docs etc. So when making this I always have in the back of my mind people like you etc and not to make it crappy. After watching Reelz VH doc, I thought man I could do a better job. haha Sounds like by your words I did.
Haha my folders too. It was one of the only band logos I could draw. 🤘🍻
@@TheTapesArchive Rock and Roll Brotha!!! Will be following you and your channel from here on out!!!!!
This is exactly how I feel about this series, and all of his videos! Thank you for putting it into words in a way that I cannot, and thank you to the creator of this video for giving us such great content to enjoy!
Amazing video!! I know someone already said it but the ending almost brought tears to my eyes. Van Halen is a legendary band!! RIP Eddie, you are very missed. Still can't believe he's gone.
Poor Mr. Anthony. Having to deal with three of the biggest egos in music history.
You talking about the bassist who never wrote one song or lyric and became a millionaire in one of the greatest Rock bands of all time. Aww, Poor guy...lol
I agree with you.. poor Mr. ANTHONY 😢
@@BillDollar777 It must suck. I'm so happy I got my day job when I hear about guys like that.
Other musicians actually backed Edward because all the songs are his . Mike never came up with a song .
Mr. Anthony is a chump
Fascinating that Ed and Dave showed up in public together as late as April of that year. That was a new twist I didn't know about. I thought it was all over by then.
just like the was in the studio together almost a chance of David being part of 5150 which is crazy
Great stuff! The original line up was my absolute favorite band of all time. Everyone in high school had their fav band and mine fell apart. It was a kick in the teeth/punch in the gut. To this day no other band on the planet has had such an effect on me as the original Mighty VH! Thank you so much for the series, it was amazing!
Van Halen's first 4 albums are their greatest works, after that they sucked, Diver Down, 1984, that was just pop nonsense and not what'd made them great, when their first album came out in 1978 in the middle of all that Disco nonsense it was like a breath of fresh air, but after their 4th album when MTV took a hold of them I think it went to their heads.
I was in the Army when they broke up and frankly didn't care, and as far as I was concerned Sammy Hagar joining them was his downfall to, Montrose and his first few solo albums especially Standing Hampton were fantastic, after he got with Van Halen it seems like their egos feed off each other and inflated to Mt Rushmore size fluff.
But those first 4 Van Halen albums will always be the only one's I've ever owned, and have always owned.
I really really really...cant express my appreciation for this docu. As a monster fan of Van Halen...this just kicked some ass !!!!
Thanks a ton for all the hardwork !!
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Sensational!! The end credits almost brought me to tears !
You're not the only one.
You need more pics of Dave wearing assless chaps, when Sammy implied he was gay....I mean not even Freddie Mercury pulled off the assless chaps look on stage...
Lucky for us, we were here to witness it. 😢
Excellent and well done. I am blessed to have seen VH from 1980 to 1984. I wouldn't trade those days for anything. I hope you do something with Journey maybe, or DLR solo career.
@@gregggoss2210Well, covering Roth's solo career definitely wouldn't take long 😆
I love all Van Halen. Yes, even the Gary Charone time. This is a great tribute to that particular time period in Van Halen's career. I would love to see more episodes from the other eras in the amazing VH career. 🤘
True, I'd like to see that too. There should be an episode about Michael Anthony being kicked out, which was a shame.
Really? Wow how fun to bolster that animosity.@@Rob_Kates
Gary LMAO
there should be a video or two about the endless nasty cusses that wont let that go, YOU WERENT IN THE BAND so get over it baby@@Rob_Kates matter of fact, Wolf and Mikey are GREAT FRIENDS. Simple Google search about the recent meetings between them should clean your diaper. Peon whiners have no integrity
I lived in North Hollywood in the mid 80s. I remember seeing Ed driving in his Lamborghini on Ventura Blvd many times. He rented video tapes at a place called " 20/20 Video " by the Ralphs supermarket off of Ventura like we did. I went in there once with my Dad and the guy at the counter asked " Do you like Van Halen ? " I of course said " YEA "... He said , " Well , there he goes ! " Ed was walking out the door. I just watched. I would've never approached him when I was 15. I wish now that I would've at least tried !!! Lol
Probably better that you didn’t…. Eds the epiphany of never meet your heroes.
@@MajorLeageSchill33-vu7pe Funny you'd mention that. The 1st interaction I had with him he played the "starving artist" role to a "T" Oscar winning stuff and just after making Black Sabbath look silly.
Fast Forward to the 5150 Tour. Totally different guy. I've heard he remembers very little of that tour. That would be a good thing. I'm sure he was burnt, drunk, and tired but the vibe was a total 180. God could that dude play guitar! I had goosebumps during warmup.
If only they had just taken a few years off from each other, did their own thing in the meantime/got cleaned up, they could have carried on later with renewed enthusiasm. Time off from each other was clearly what was needed, and neither faction were subsequently anywhere near what the original band did. Ah well..
Great doc anyway! Excellent work, & thanks for doing it.
Wow, I’m just speechless. I can only hope the band sees this, and the comments and realizes how much Van Halen is loved and how important they are. This isn’t just some fucking rock band; this is the mighty Van Halen. Long live the King!
There is no band.
What band? 🤔
I was thinking the same thing. I would love to hear what Alex, Michael, Sammy and Dave think of this.
This was a fantastic documentary! I learned quite a bit. I was a young kid back then so in the late 80s when i brought this up only had word of mouth to go by. Thank you so much for this amazing video!
Gracias ,gracias ,gracias por estos bellos y hermosos capítulos de la mejor banda del Mundo ❤
You know what’s crazy, 1984 is a great album. Every song is excellent. I hate to see people talk bad about the Sammy Hagar era of VH because it was Eddies idea. He was the one who wanted to go in a different direction and asked Sammy to come join the band. He really wanted to expand on the keyboard aspect of song creation and did what he did with that in mind I think (in my opinion).
Well said, I agree people hate on Sammy. They might as well just hate on Eddie too because he made the decisions.
What's to talk bad about? Sales and critics alike rallied around the new VH at the time indeed! An astonishing Resurrection! Perhaps you weren't there
I was for Sammy til he went diva . He blamed Ray Daniels BUT Ed explained it before Ray became manager Sam started bossing Ed around . In a compilation of Van Halen clips ( on TH-cam Howard Stern )is a couple of clips of Sam saying things like " This is MY band . " . And in the next clip he says " Leader of the band lead singer of the band what's the difference ? " Sam's big ego and mouth is to blame .
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Probably EVH at the time needed it. Trying to save a sinking ship. That's the part you don't hear about
1984 title track is useless filler, top jimmys one of my least fav vh songs, and the overall track count is the lowest of any vh album and house of pain was better on the zero demo. That being said girl gone bad is a fucking masterpiece
28:33 I'm not crying 😢 thank you so much for bring the history of the best hard rock band of all time. They were untouchable at their prime. VAN HALEN RULES FOREVER❤❤❤
Endlessly fascinating band! They were my favorite in high school and this was such a well put together documentary. You deserve all the praise you get for the research and effort!
I believe the 'reference' was an episode of "The Bionic Woman" being filmed in the backyard of David Lee Roth's fathers house. Several VH photo shoots were done here as well.
You nailed it! I will send your big prize out today. 😂🍻🤘
yup The Inside had a great interview with Cartoon about this. Dave’s dad would be an extra in the eps filmed at Mansion de Roth.
That would have had our LINDSAY (Wagner) jumping even HIGHER than Roth......lol
Funny you mentioned the Bionic Woman . Lindsay Wagner owned the house next to Valerie and Ed's new house . She already lived next to the house they just bought . That's when he turned the badminton court into his practice studio . They had to buy her house because he was so loud .
Fun fact: A porno movie (Sacred Sin) was shot at Eddie's house before he reunited with Dave. He even wrote music for it. His second wife was an ex-porn publicist. Funny...you'd more expect Dave to be involved in porn.
THANK YOU!!! This whole series has been incredible! Van Halen is my favorite band and I've really enjoyed these episodes!
All the stories are interesting, but the music is what gets me every time. I will listen to it until I go deaf or die. Thanks to everyone that made all of the music happen, it was/is great!!!
Excellent series by far the best documentary I’ve seen made for Van Halen. this gave me a new perspective on one of my favorite bands of all time. I really enjoyed this 👏 nice work. Rip Eddie 🎸
That shot with Ed smiling at Hagar, with Michael Anthony looking on...Remember your Sam, Mr. Frodo!
Just awesome. Thank you for the time and effort it takes to make such a project. Great work!!
Great job Alan! Really enjoyed the whole series. Lots of footage I've never seen before, which was awesome. Sucks that Alex and VH wouldn't let you use the music, as that would have put it over the top, but you adapted well and made it the best it could be. Congrats!
Been loving this documentary series! Exceptionally flawless work!🙌🎸
You are hands down my favorite narrator on the tube brother 🤟🤟🤟
I like how Edward was always expressive with his face and body more than words… that’s why his guitar playing was so emotional, miss him every day
Great work. I can't tell you how much I've enjoyed all 5 parts of this - Thank you.
This is such a great documentary series! Thank you for the great work!
Thank you for subscribing, 95% of people on here are not. 🤘🍻
Well done Tapes Archive, for all your painstaking research, the many hours of editing & wonderful story telling. You can be fiercely proud of the body of work you have gifted us.
Hi Alan. I just wanted to thank you for such a great documentary. You did a phenomenal job of telling the story of this era of Van Halen.
Thanks Jason! Means a lot hearing fans enjoyed it. 🤘🤘
@@TheTapesArchive Very much!
Thank you so much for all of the episodes of the 1984 Documentary. You went through some S**t to deliver it to us out here in TH-cam land (thank you Alex!!!!!!!) . Superb job. Look forward to your next project.👍
Not a huge VH guy but this series was excellent! I am hoping you will do more on Black Sabbath.
You must be deaf.
I gotta say this might be the best fan-made documentary I've ever seen it is absolutely phenomenal and that's being said with the music taken out of it. You still managed to do a kick-ass job. Phenomenal!!
Thanks for the great work. I especially appreciated the ending and the props on how the original 4 could never be duplicated. I also would have loved to see a quick comment on the backstory of Me Wise Magic and Can't Get This Stuff No More. Those 2 songs proved how they should have never broken up and what might have been. I would love to know if Eddie was happy on how those songs turned out. They sure captured the classic Van Halen sound.
They brought it to a new level. The production was amazing. Edward was actually cool again and took risks and innovated on the music. Dave brought the spice. Michael and Alex were there. Those two songs were the last hoorah.
ADKOT was a mistake.
@@jamesragsdale8202 Id rather listen to ADKOT than any chicken💩 album . I used to be a big Sammy Hagar fan in Anchorage Alaska til he lied about loving playing up here and he's coming back up after his gig promoting VOA . In his 🐂💩 book RED he said the band cancelled the Alaska tour of promoting 5150 because of a SNAFU . That's a lie . When OU812 came out , I told an employee of our city sports arena I can't wait to see the band finally come up . He told me the band will never play with Hagar in the band . And they never showed up till Gary Cherone replaced Candyass . He told me why. Even though he told everyone he can't wait to play up here again , he found out he didn't sell out . He was a handful of tickets short of a sold out show . The diva threw a hissy fit and told the arena manager he'd never play up here again . And the 🐱 never did . I don't hate him for his lies about coming back up or keeping the band from finally playing up here . I hate Sam because he won't STFU and stop lying . The 🐱 quit .
Awesome! For me, Van Halen as a band means one thing: Edward, Alex, David, & Michael.
As a guitarist, I love all things Eddie. This documentary has done a great job of taking us down memory lane & allowing us to learn a few new things about the mightiest version of a one of a kind band that we all loved. Thank you.
I use to think like you. In the beginning I almost reluctantly listened to Van Hagar. Mainly because of what Fave meant to me. Sort of a stick by your friends attitude. Even though I was also Sammy fan and had most of his records. But as time went by I realized it’s not one or the other they are both equally great. Different but both great. And let’s face it, Sammy is a much more gifted vocalist and Those Van Hagar songs stand on their own. Don’t judge it just take it in ! ✌️
Incredible! Sinerest thanks!
Considering that Van Halen is no more and Eddie has passed it's a great time to be a Van Halen fan! With the release of these awesome documentaries from Allan, the Donnington concert footage, the new box sets, Mammoth 2, the plethora of great Van Halen related books released in the last couple of years I would say that us Van Halen fans are pretty fortunate as of late.
I lost it when you quoted Zappa from "Flakes!" 🤣
Nice! Good to know I have other Zappa freaks here. Arf! I have always loved that line.
Awesome job!! Thanks for this tireless effort without a single ad! Wow
Edward is ridiculous. The Rolling Stones did not break up when Mick took some time to make a few movies around 1970. Keith Richards did not throw a hissy fit and kill the band. EVH did.
If anyone feels bad for Edward just imagine Keith Richards trying to take control of the Rolling Stones in 1970 building his own home studio and refusing to work elsewhere firing the producer and lead singer because they sometimes wouldn't greenlight and actually rejected some of his guitar riffs mocking Mick's movie career crying about waiting for him complaining that he asked Richards if he wanted to contribute soundtrack music then Richards goes out and finds a lame replacement for the Rolling Stones. Ridiculous.
Now imagine Richards replacing Mick with Hagar. We would have had 50 years of Hagar singing Satisfaction and nerd Hagar fans complaining that Mick danced around too much in the late 60s repeating forever that Hagar had more of a range than Jagger as if we all cared about range instead of the singer being a cool bad-ass with charisma swagger and chutzpah versus a nerd.
It was all so absurd insane and lame but it happened. VH was killed by EVH. The Rolling Stones was not killed by KR and continue to this day. The Rolling Stones even have a new single out today September 6th!
Mick Jagger's fantasy is the solo success of " Crazy From The Heat / Eat Em and Smile " and Keith knows it. Edward stated multiple times that he would have continued working with David , had he not quit.
@@markfloresmusic That is complete and utter nonsense! Dave did not quit. Dave would have done his movie and Van Halen. Dave would have resumed fronting Van Halen at any time. There were tons of behind-the-scenes efforts after every album and tour.
That's a lot of words to dodge the fact that with his eye off the ball, a much superior and more grown up singer came in to save the day
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Can you imagine Roth looking on as his replacement not only fit the bill nicely but took the outfit to new heights?! Sales and reviewers agreed!
@@Vibeagainno critic or music historian agrees. The only Van Halen that is iconic and groundbreaking and innovative and influential is Classic Van Halen.
Thank you for this VIDEO. I miss VH a lot. OUR best to Dave / Alex and the Van Halen Family Mike and Sammy too.
Great work man. I would be very interested to hear those Demo's from early 1985 with Dave Roth.👍🚬💯
Thanks for all the hard work, this documentary was beyond amazing. Long Live The Mighty Van Halen Forever!!! God Bless You Edward.
Loved the shots(s) of Dave Chapelle as Price in the montage. Sneaky, and very funny! Excellent job all around, thank you for all the hard work you put into this!
Great catch! Most people miss that. That's why I have Deniro laughing after. There are other easter eggs in there too.
Who's "Price"? JHC! No one reads their posts before (let's see if it even gets edited now)!
Van Halen changed me forever. I was 10 years old in 1978, i heard Eruption, that was it, hard rock and metal fan for life. RIP Eddie ......
That AI voice of Dave is creepy accurate!
We are all doomed.
What that was AI???? Holy shit man. That was spot on!
AI is a technology that our society is not ready for.
It doesn't sound accurate. It lacks DLR's manic personality.
Just plain creepy...
the rumors about who was going replace dave were crazy i remember hearing billy squier even being mentioned
Any time Al is playing drums and Ed is playing guitar, it's magic. I often wonder what it would be like to be blessed with that type of talent.
youre an angel for making these. thank you
I'm showing this comment to my wife. After a year of working it she is done hearing about VH. 🤣
Excellent episode! The OG Van Halen was the shit! So happy to see them twice.
I'm very happy to see Allan give some recognition to the Dave and Dave Unchained Podcast. I really enjoyed the interviews he did with Dave and Dave. I would highly recommend that Podcast to any serious Van Halen fan!!! Those guys rule!!!
Was all that interview footage, really Dave speaking? He seems, too, serious/professional (haha).
We were lucky to get two eras of the same band. We got all those great records from Ed, and a different side of him we’d never heard otherwise. And, we also got Eat em and Smile, and the dynamic duo of Steve Vai and Billy Sheehan was unleashed on the world. All of it was next level. We were lucky to get all that. We’ll never see the likes of either again in this lifetime.
Vai & Sheehan were brilliant players. But I don't think the WRITING was as memorable with the DLR Band as it was with Van Halen......'Goin' Crazy' was kind of borrowing Ed's abruption picked chords from 'Little Guitars'. And 'Shyboy' intro (with guitar & bass) was kind of an attempt to outdo Ed's intro on Hot For Teacher. It was top guns musicians trying to replicate what VH had already done. Although 'Good Times' on Skyscraper was a poignant good song.
1978-1984 1985-1996 enough said ...
A very touching ending. I’m okay, just a little dust in my eye…
Thank you so much for this series, it’s been a blast! 😜
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Eddie was right when he said there is no band without him,even Wolfie agreed when he told people, that is no Van Halen without his dad.
While the band went on to be as popular with the Van Hagar era, there was always a split between the classic band and Sammy's,but as long as Eddie was there, the music went on, until sadly when we lost Eddie to cancer! The saddest day in music, R.I.P. Eddie❤🎸😢
It’s too bad Wolf thinks he’s honoring his dad by not putting out the unreleased music instead of celebrating his fathers music with the world and sharing his truly wonderful gift of writing and playing
@@hkydave1964 That legacy? Is best served with what Eddie released, as what's in the vaults? Besides all the live tapes going back to their Mammoth days, is most likely noodling and bits of guitar riffs. Things Eddie himself said wasn't worth being released, because all the good stuff was already out there(his words)
The band did not continue to be “as popular”. They were successful, but they never reached the levels of success of the original band.
@@edwardblack9680 That is as ridiculous as its ignorant! Every album that they released went number one and sold millions! They continued to sell out arenas across the country for years! Do some research before making a fool of yourself!😖🤣😆
@@MrRugbyloosehead I think you need to do the research. #1 designation does not speak to overall record sales. Here’s what Eddie had to say about those number ones… "But being number one doesn’t really mean jack fuck all. We sold twice as many records as other records that year “1984”that landed in the Number One position." Eddie Van Halen
An awesome series of videos. Thank you 🎸
What he says at the end in that VH with its original lineup was the thing that elevated them to iconic status is absolutely true, but if Sammy hadn't come along when he did, we might have lost this band at a time when they were at their peak. They had all honed their craft to perfection and were at the top of their game. Those Van Hagar albums were fantastic but different. I was too young or really never got the opportunity to see the original Van Halen lineup in concert but I did get to see them with Sammy. I'm just thankful we got a few more years and a few more albums to appreciate them.
What? They were 30 years old of course they weren't done. VH ended in 1985. All you got after that was the EVH solo project. Just like GNR was killed in 1993 and all you got after that was the Axl solo project.
post dave, VH was really Van Hagar. completely different band
Only time has shown than Van Hagar didn’t stand the test of time. A very few great songs and a bunch of mediocre ones.
Great documentary, Alan. The enjoyment I felt from watching this VH series greatly enhances my love for their musical output; much the same as the books recently released by Monk, Renoff, and Scanlan. Keep up the wonderful work, Dude!
Glad you enjoyed it Chris! Thanks for being a subscriber. 🤘🍻
I will always maintain that Roth was fired. I never liked him for a ton of reasons but seeing how they treated Michael and Hagar many years after the fact, it became clear (to me at least) that the VH brothers always circled their wagons and shut others out. One thing Roth never did was trick the fans. He may have been a clown who staged everything but he never duped anyone.
He wasn't directly fired nor did he quit. Ed just moved on. I will be releasing some other interviews this week that back this theory up.
Whatever happened between Hagar and Ed was Sam's BIG mouth . It wasn't Ray Danniels being the new manager . Ed clarified that in a guitar magazine interview . Ray watched Sam start to boss Ed around . That was a big mistake on Sam's part . When he was promoting his POS book RED he said so himself it was HIS band . There's a video compilation where Sam said " This is MY band . " and right after that clip he said " Lead singer of the band , leader of the band, what's the difference ?" . What Sam didn't put in his book is where Sam said something to really really hurt and piss off Ed . This is when Ed really stuck it to Sam and rubbed his big nose into his own bullshit . Like Captain Candyass said in his book , he didn't want to do the Twister soundtrack , BUT he didn't anyways . And in my opinion this is the difference between the Halen Bros and Candyass . Ed never bragged about how he treated Sam to do the Twister soundtrack . He could've really stuck it to Sam publicly and said " The little f#cker said something to me and pissed me off so I made him my bitch and made him do his job . " . That wouldnt be polite . There are things they wouldn't talk about because it would be rude and disrespectful . Never forget , it was Sam that did most of the anti-Dave crap even when it got old @ the end of the 5150 tour .
@user-rt9zq8rs9k Sam was always a poor sport with a big ego. What kind of narcissist a-hole gets the PRIVILEGE to join the biggest band on the planet and refuses to play any material made before he joined outside of a few songs?
I cannot name one band that happened to. Not Deep P, Ac/DC, Sabbath, Motley etc. All their replacements came in did their damn jobs while showing respect to the bands legacy.
@@BruceStephan Who's 'Captain Candyass' ?......lol.....I wouldn't have thought Sammy was 'candyass' because he was a boxer....I find the stuff about VH manager RAY DANIELS really confusing to be honest. I don't know WHAT to believe anymore.🤔 I mean there was this guy called 'The Count of Toulouse' on here commenting on these videos that claimed that Ray Daniels targeted Eddie & totally destroyed the band by turning him & Sammy against each other. But then there were others who say that this was a fiction invented by Sammy & point to discrepancies in Sammy's account of whether he resigned or was fired from the band & the chronology of events with the short lived DLR 1996 reunion... Some claim that Ray Daniels was only in it to make money out of the band but then others come in & say that Ray Daniels encouraged the band to do stuff for charity which would totally contradict this. On the Twister Soundtrack Sammy claimed that the films director Jan De Bont was on HIS SIDE approving of his lyric contributions but according to Ed in a 1996 Steven Rosen interview he said that De Bont had specifically said to Sammy -'Do not write lyrics about Tornadoes' .....& then Ed said Sammy came back with total Tornado stuff with all these research technical terms ('sky turning black, knuckles turning white. Headed for the hot Zone').....@user-rt9zq8rs9k did you see any interview materials that said WHAT Sammy said to Ed that p*ssed Ed off so much ? ....I know its all gossip/water under the bridge now but knowing it might make Ed's responses become more understandable to us.... Was Sammy cruel to him ? ....I know Ed was more sensitive a person than Sammy & Sammy could be a bit of a macho 'bull in a China shop' . Even if he was one of the best Vocalists in rock ever.
@@BruceStephan Sammy's book was kind of shocking really. I mean I've read the chapter & interviews where he boasts that Ray Daniels was scared of him which is not something people should brag about ....I mean , that's what bullies do isn't it ? I won't repeat what he wrote. It was kind of horrible... I think there was a lot of post facto ANGER in Sammy when he wrote that book because he felt he had been rejected. & that anger was him lashing out. I believe that after Ed passed away Sammy did actually REGRET writing some of the things he wrote. Particularly about Ed . And perhaps he shouldn't have sounded off on Alex either because of how much he was drinking back then. Alex didn't need to be reminded of that. Because both he & his little Brother lost their FATHER at 65 because of alcohol & when Alex suffered from losing his Dad he walked away from alcohol. 😔 But whenever I hear the historical conflicts between Ed, Alex with Sammy (& Mike) I think back to days in 1986 on Live Without a Net video. When it was 'All for one. And one for all' with no BITTERNESS....But just JOYOUS CAMARADERIE....Even if idiot Evans does sound like a sentimental old fool 😟😔
Awesome episode! Thank you.
It sucked when they broke up.. But then they made it happen with Sammy!!😊
Excellent documentary on VanHalen, the best yet. So very accurate also on the levels reached before and after Sammy arrived.
I’ve been saying it for about 15 years, Dave needs needs an updated autobiography, a really good honest tell all. I’’m not sure if we could get it out of him but it’s nice to think about
Awesome video as always, man! Maybe you could do a video exploring Dave's solo career? There's A LOT to cover - the Vai/Sheehan collaboration and further exit from Dave's band, finding Jason Becker then sadly parting ways with him due to ALS, his Vegas stint, the risky Your Filthy LIttle Mouth...
Thank You Tapes archive for giving us VH fans something new, yes, a few bumps in the road but still you gave us fanatics something to relive. Thank you.
These episode have been a joy to watch! I hope you do another series on a different period in the bands life!
Great work! I’m grateful I lived through these years and had their music as my soundtrack track to my youth/teen years. To me, they were the best band.
Thank you! so much for all time and effort youve put into this documentary very weill done !
And yes without a doubt one of the greatest bands ever whose music will be relevant for a long time Long Live the Mighty Van Halen 78-84! Thank you Ed(R.I.P), aAex , Michael and Diamond Dave!
Thank you so much for this amazing series!! Love your work!! Enjoying the 84 MOR video...unbelievable!! Finally!!
Thank you so much for this incredible work! You've made some VH fans very happy! (and sad!)
Thanks for all your work on this!!!
4:54 I’m guessing the reference is to Dr. Roth’s Pasadena mansion, where Dave lived…and now owns? This looks a lot like it.
So good. So well-made. Thank you!
This is fantastic work! Thank you for all of your efforts!! This is stellar series of documents for one of the most important bands of all time.
At minute 5:25 you ask if anyone gets the reference of the video clip. Is it depicting the backyard of the Roth mansion in Pasadena?
Beautifully done. Thank you so much for all your hard work!
Easily the best musical documentary I've seen. I appreciate all the work you put into it.
Thank you for this series.
Superb I learned a bunch.
Looking forward to whatever you put out next.
The sabbath and Steve vai ones were brilliant.
Keep it up dude
Yo Allan Berry, this series KICKED ASS!!!
Thank you , thank you, thank you for this series. Absolutely masterfully done. I am sorry you endured the legal bullshit that you did but as a life long fan of the Mighty VH I am so appreciative of the research and time you took to bring this to us. RIP King Edward. An era has ended and we'll really never be the same without the music AND the drama lol!
Just another stellar video---great job, this whole series has been nothing short of fantastic, really really enjoyed it and thank you very much!
Hats off man. This was a grear series of episodes. Great ride to enjoy the might Van Halen still a little more. Hopefully there is more VH related material on your channel. Cheers from Argentina!
Incredible documentary! Thank you so much.
AMAZING! Thank you for putting this amazing work together!
Absolutely loving that list of potential replacement lead singers at around 16.40 through! Imagine what could have been, cheers marin on vocals, backed by Pete Townshend playing rhythm guitar, before making way for a rockin solo from EVH! The eighties, what a time, man! What happened?
Thank you!! Loved this whole series! - best VH doc yet, well done!!!!
Haven’t even finished watching… but… WHAT A GREAT VIDEO this is!!! Love it! 👍🏼
Thank you for your hard work in making these gems for VH fans. Well done!
It was amazing, and B.S. that possibly the biggest press that the band ever got was the time between 1984 and 5150 because they were (supposedly) breaking up/ DLR leaving. I remember that "Unbelievable" time like yesterday, It STILL is a Raw Nerve, kind of like a parents divorce.
Just watched the complete series. Brilliamt storytelling! Thank you man!
Thank you!! Love it, great work❤
I heard the bass player say it was because of Dave after the break up, and the rest agreed. Then later on I heard Sammy say he didn't like what Ed was doing, (not playing very well) but didn't know he had cancer, and would have been more understanding if he knew. So I think the original break up was because of Dave? Heaven knows his ego exploded, and like you show here, Eddie was writing material that required another player, and I doubt Dave would have liked someone else sharing the spot light. Eddie said with Sammy being able to play guitar too, it allowed the band to go anywhere then and they all liked it. Don't ask which video's I heard this from, because I don't remember. 🤷♂ But they're out there.
You probably won’t see this, but you crushed this man. Well done ✌️