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- Nick Ross and Sue Cook present. Cases include the disappearance of Michael Boulton in Eyam, Derbyshire (He was later found dead in a cave at nearby Stoney Middleton), A raid on a security van in Blackpool and the murder of Surinder Gill in West London.
Sorry no March 1990 show, as mentioned before you can see one of the reconstructions: The murder of Keith Burgess in Bristol elsewhere on youtube.
Thank you as always for posting redcard74.
The Michael Boulton case is very sad. It seems he loved caving and must have gone exploring one but got trapped. It is particularly tragic because it seems he finally found happiness and stability after a difficult life. RIP.
Watching it with modern eyes it is obvious now that he was autistic-didn't mix with others, wouldn't look people in the face if possible, his running style etc. Sadly it seems his curiosity got the better of him & like many didn't understand the dangers of what he was doing-he was found 330 foot into a cave with nothing for him to help see-no torch, lighter, matches etc & dies of hypothermia. I guess the police were desperate-but it is hard to see why the case was featured on the show-there were zero sightings of him arguing with anybody or being snatched. This was always the more likely scenario than foul play.
Correct. I thought the same thing watching the actor running, he was autistic
Just because he wasn't seen being snatched or arguing with anybody doesn't rule out the possibility of foul play. It has to be borne in mind that no-one had any idea what happened to him so the police had to keep an open mind as to what may have happened. Plus, when a child goes missing it makes sense to feature it on crimewatch whether you think foul play occured or not, especially in those days reason being the show could reach a much wider audience than any other medium and maybe something was seen or heard that could help find him. The other thing is there have been several missing person cases featured on crimewatch throughout the years irregardless of any suspicious circumstances.
@@christophercolquhoun2793 It couldn't be ruled out-but it was the far less likely option & shouldn't have been pushed as the likely scenario based on the total lack of evidence for such/ As we have seen on prior episodes there are lots of missing kids/people profiles-but they don't get a full segment & they air not long after their disappearance-Lee Boxell & the kid who they fished out of the river five days after the appeal aired.
@@Hi-kq1vi yep definitely autistic bless him
These eps are the highlight of my night before bed lol thx so much. When they run out ill be so lost.
You will have to make your own! :)
@@speedbirdconcordeBOAB lol cheers
I've watched to my knowlage every episode I went through the months starting from 84.
if you watch them drunk like me you can watch them over and over without realising , thank me later xx
Hehehe same here. Funny, my mum and I joke about how we both get a deep sense of relaxation from books, websites, videos, etc. dealing with true crime, esp. murder. Serial murder, spree killers, sexual torture, %dismemberment, necrophilia, you name it. The more f**ked up, the more it seems to relax us. As a kid in the 80s through my teenage years in the early 90s, I grew up reading my mum's books on serial killers and true crime after she had finished with them. Her books were always lying around the house, and as far back as the age 7-8 years old I was looking through them. So, these kind of videos are comforting for me, as they bring me back to my childhood!
Thank you so much as ever Redcard74 for adding yet another gem to the treasure trove! And greetings to the burgeoning CWUK-loving community! From an Irish CWUK fanatic since 1990
Poor Micheal Boulton. Sounds like a sweet soul who was just beginning to reach his potential. Rip
Heartbreaking
Wasn't he found stuck in a cave?
@@theculturedthug6609 Yes that's right. Very sad. Poor lad.
@@theculturedthug6609 Was his body found in suspicious circumstances?
@@pusscat1147 From what I remember No... Looks like he went exploring and got stuck.
Evening everyone. Glad Redcard seems to taken my suggestion and uploaded the main programme and the update in a single upload. I remember this episode as my mum said sometime afterward she couldn't stop thinking of that boy running along the road and then he disappeared. This is the first time I can remember a progress report from a later episode but if I recall right, he was found by a potholer shortly after the programme. It was apparent he had gone explore during his run and got into difficulty in a cave he'd found. So sad, especially after he'd come through so much in his short life. I'd also say from the description of him that it appears he may been someone with Asperger Syndrome however awareness of the condition in 1990 was niche.
Ah, was wondering where the update was-good idea. Even expert cavers go missing, in their case it is usually ego/arrogance, in his case it seems autism & naivety was the factor.
He was found 12 months later
There’s something very strange about the Surinder Gill case. So he gets hijacked in his car but then apparently goes shopping for a new phone even though he didn’t pick up his daughter from school. Hmmm.....
Surinder Gill, I refuse to believe he showed up at the Comet in the midst of being kidnapped acting like nothing was happening. It doesn't make sense...it is surely a mistake and I really don't get why the police have it in their official timeline (?)
Police have a theory that either he was having affairs with married women or he was in to money laundering.
My theory is that they tried to kidnap his daughter for ransom. This would explain why the car was seen at the beavers open space as Westway Riding school is there. Not sure if his daughter attended that school or not but Surinder Gill was seen leaving the field with the man in the crash helmet. Maybe under the guise to get his daughter.
Also wanted to add that kids leave school at about 3pm and the car was seen at 2:30pm and stayed for 30 minutes. This strengthens my theory.
Thank u for the upload, being waiting all day
The Michael Boulton case is very sad . He would have been around my age. May he rest in peace
Thanks for the uploads so far anyway !!!
Michael Boulton's His adopted mother looks a lovely woman
BlytheWorld1972 Yeah, she seemed like a really sincere lady. There’s no doubt she really cared for him and they had a good relationship. Really sad case.
he was found in a cave a year later .. he went into explore and could not find his way out so very sad ...
Yes she loved him and he had a job so he was really loved and had a place to belong.
OMG I forgot all about the Christine Lee killing, I was only 8 at the time and was living in Birgidale Avenue, Castlemilk, everyone was really scared and me and my sisters weren't allowed outside to play, I think a young guy was arrested for her murder not long after this but can't remember exactly. Talk about memories, !!!
I remember this case clearly too. Aswell as the killer 🤡 clown panic that followed.
Not often moved my reconstructions but anything to do with young kids or adults has me in bits the first case Michael Boulton had me in tears .. rip lad x
Indeed, what an awful case. The poor lad didn't have much of a life, did he? At least he had some kind of happy family in his last couple of years. The copper in charge of the case was his namesake, too. Imagine how chilling that must have been for him to have that case land on his desk.
His Adopted mum looked like she really did care .. he also loved her going by what she said giving her a kiss
@@michaellowery1559 he went exploring in a cave and couldn't get out again
Yeah poor lad just looked at article on him
to all killers and rapists in this video your all cunts i hope ur all dead now
Michael Boulton. Tragic story, poor lad, deserved so much better. RIP.
@Deuteranomaly red-green wasn't killed, fell from 330ft cliff due to poor light, died of hypothermia. Horrible.
@@steviep281 Same as a French girl from a previous episode. Went missing and was found at the bottom of a cliff, assumed she fell and not foul play.
Evening all! Thanks for the upload Redcard. Been waiting to see the Surinder Gill reconstruction, something very interesting about that one. Will report back later.
Evening all! Hope you’ve all had a good weekend! Thank you red card 👌🏻
I still cry at the Michael Boulton case so very very sad i hope the wee bugger never suffered much ... life is sad at times his step mum was an angel you could tell she wanted the best for him ..
Such a sad case. Poor lad must have been really frightened before he died. One of the saddest cases I’ve ever seen on Crimewatch.
@@mrkipling2201 Its so sad ... yes one of the worst also the guy who was tied to his own bed and left to die ...
@@mrkipling2201 His poor mum was total in shock and heart broken you could tell he had a great life with that family and a good job ....
@@BlytheWorld1972 definitely. Such a sad case. So unnecessary and tragic.
How many times do you need to comment on one post...
Poor Michael. RIP mate x
was his body found?
@@Jmjdit Yes in a cave a few miles away, Stories online suggest it could not be recovered from the caves sadly
@@cris182 surely they got him out eventually. What a story.
@@Jmjdit Not always possible to get the body out of a cave due to steep drops and so on, He was found in a dark spot some 330ft from an entrance with no light so may have been 'easier' to not recover him, Similar to the everest bodies, They won't risk other lives to recover a body
@@cris182 I'm glad someone remembers. The information is almost totally absent online.
Perfect end to the weekend.
How sad for Michael. It made me smile when they said he ran with his arms like windmills.
I found it very endearing.
Really nice lad by the sounds of it. 😢
Another great upload
My favourite Sue Cook hairstyle .
Definitely, something to grab onto 😂😊
She could appear with it in curlers … I would still find her hot!
This edition showcases the ever popular PHC (Plaited Hair Club).
@@Purewood357 From behind, or … ?
Time clock in the corner? Come on it's time to admit it are you Nick or Sue?
Haha... I think we should start an investigation!
Enquiring minds *need* to know...
Rip Michael Bolton 🙏
Weird watching incident desk without david hatcher presenting it
Ian Bousfield well he was on holiday . He probably came back after growing a moosetash
I didn’t miss him … not in the least.
That Aladdin's Cave section of the show is a total bore. No wonder it was scrapped later on.
@Ollie Perry Eric Knowles was becoming the housewives choice by this point.
Always seemed horribly out of place-I can only think it existed to provide some light relief in-between the murders, rapes & armed robberies, also maybe to clear out some space in the cop shops.
I always skip it
I thought it was just me who goes " urrgh" When they say "In tonights aladdins cave.._"
to all killers and rapists in this video your all cunts i hope ur all dead now
Thanks RC74 !!
Judging from the title cards and countdowns at the end are these sourced from some betacam tapes direct from the BBC or something? Would explain why the quality is generally so good.
Maybe he worked for the beeb?
Watching this during the lockdown lol.
Same!! I'm glad someone's decided to uploads these on here 😀
The case of Michael Boulton is a truly heartbreaking case. As if he hadn't had enough sadness and troubles in his early life, he endured a premature and tragic demise.
May he Rest In Peace.
I can't find anything on the Surinder Gill case. We're his murderers ever caught? I also think the Comet worker who spoke to him was mistaken about the day they met.
Brendan Meskell there was a reappeal in the mid 2000s, so it hadn’t been solved by that point. Need to watch this episode to be sure, but there was a mixup with one of the descriptions on the original appeal I think (they mentioned it in the reappeal)
Strange case , you would think that he would report 1st incident when set free...
soulbrother61 the mid 2000s appeal revealed that either one of the men in the crash helmets was actually a woman, or that they’d had a woman with them.
i've been looking for info on this too. theres a wikipedia page on unsolved murders in the u.k, but his name does't appear. when i google his name i can't find much. wonder who did it
Loving working through all these episodes.....
Out of interest,Redcard74,is thee a copy of the Crimewatch UK from March 1990 ? yesterday it was February 1990 and today it's April and I just wondered if they did one in March ?
There was a March episode which featured a case on Keith Burgess who was murdered. However, that particular case is available on TH-cam.
March 1990 is now available on my channel: th-cam.com/video/PrIhY7icSec/w-d-xo.html
Hi Redcard, or anyone who can help me, do you know how many more years Redcard has of Crimewatch? I hope their are more years as I'd love to watch more 90s and 00s episodes.
Evening all....nice work again redcard74
soulbrother61 evening sir 👍🏼
28???????????????? looks 48
Redcard i noticed the time code on this one . have you got hold of the TX tapes or dub txs ? explains the excellence quality i used to work in telecine for Granada
chris cookson I was wondering that myself. I used to work in a film archive and I'd say the uploads have been of broadcast quality. It would suggest redcard74 has access to original broadcast tapes somehow. Would be interesting to hear the story behind them. Note the countdown clock before the update programme.
@@SKisatourist2010 yes stuart definitely TX quality and noticed the test card too lol how ever he gets them its just good of him to up load i enjoy my nighty trip back in time .
Too right!
Think Redcard has mentioned on a previous upload that they found the archive while clearing the house of a recently deceased relative. Not sure if they were originals or recordings off air.
Can only assume they are originals due to quality and time clock.
Thanks red card! I am interested to know whether you had all of these recorded?
How cruel life can be ! That poor boy Michael :(
He was found in a cave. It's in a later cw who knows what happened as they didn't say it was suspicious
Cheers Redcard! Evening all...
Crimewatch inserts eh how would you get such a thing do you or did you work for the bbc ? 46:28
I believe the Surinder Gill reconstruction is the first to feature the use of a mobile phone. Correct me if I’m wrong.
How on earth do you have access to all of these? Cheers for the uploads!
I think this television archive we are viewing, origins are of VHS video off air recordings onto blank VHS tapes possible some of the earlier CW UK episodes tape origin might have been on Betamax video tapes format then transferred to VHS then possible either a DVD+R or DVD-RW or or DVD-RW or DVD-R or they were migrated from a VHS to a digital file using some some specialist film and television equipment software and or hardware. combination of the above I remember reading RedCard74 has recently enhanced the picture quality of the 1990s if my memory serves well I think RedCard74 has most of them I think up until 1994. I could be wrong though so from VHS to either a DVD-R etc see above and then possibly a digital scan to a HD format obviously not in HD 720p 1080ip or 1080p picture formats as the BBC didn't start this properly until 2006. Although there were some VHS tape formats D-VHS which gave a intodays aspect ratio of 720p that are a High definition picture. Anyway I could be completely wrong and I don't think RedCard74 may have sourced the format D-3 Video tapes which the BBC used to film transmit their television shows until 1998. on the original masters as the picture quality is alot shaped then VHS PAL UK form either way it's fantastic RedCard74 has gone to all this hard work to get theses gems available to see for many else would never probably have seen them. What a ledgend ay!? 😁
It Should say DVD-RW, DVD+RW DVD+R DVD-R typo lol
@@ryanohara476 Probably Sony Betacam broadcast masters transferred to SVHS at some point (I saw JVC SVHS/VHS VCR displays on one of the other episodes, and VHS format of some kind would explain the crawl at the bottom edge). Then likely transferred straight to a digital file and upscaled to HD resolution, not quality, for upload.
TV masters were often on Betacam especially for things like local news until Digibeta and DV formats came in later in the 90s. Up until very recently (2011 even) Digibeta was still widely used.
Hope that helps.
Watched this programme in April 2020 during the lockdown,,, , watching it again in April 2022,, surinder Gill murder still unsolved,
R.I.P Michael Boulton this case has hit home for me,
as had very similar childhood too,
Life can extremely cruel at times, shit at times...
You deserved so much much better.. 😔
Sorry to hear that my friend, I hope things are better for you now
I wonder why when it shows the police waiting by the phones at the beginning of the program some of them are talking on the phone how can anybody be phoning in before any of the crimes that they need information on have been shown?.
The lines will be open 24 7, could be talking about the previous months episode. You know, they found the currage or something?
The week or so in the run-up to the programme the reconstructions and towns involved would be featured in the trailer and sometimes in the Radio Times.
24:59, I take my hat off to this brave elderly pensioner who went after the criminals!
Surinder gill and Abdul Rashid murder featured in October 1988 programme both murders unsolved in London in two years
Watched this episode 100 times and the actor who’s selling Surinda the phone in the shop, how rubbish 😅🤷🏻♂️
The case is so crazy 😢
Surinder Gill is a mystery the part where he doesn't collect his children from school, But then turns up at Comet a few hours later? He doesn't look like a man who would carry on with his day without collecting his children or not enquiring about there whereabouts etc after school?
Just doesn't make sense.
Obviously someone had threatened him and his family or had made him possibly to deliver some cash or something.
Well done lads good job nice bit of work..the drinks on you mate..
Evening fellow Crimewatcher's.
Blimey David Hatcher had his first holiday in nearly 7years 😀
haha, excellent observation!!
Mis-tosh trimming time, probably.
7:27-bloody hell its Michael Foot-where is his donkey jacket?
Watching this during 2nd lockdown!
Surinder Gill murder as yet unsolved (August 2020 report).
16:02 Superintendent David Hatcher is on holiday this month... So here's his address should you wish to burgle it and then you could appear on next month's Crimewatch lol!
PeckyThePigeon STFU you twonk 🤣
@@09weenic I don't believe P the P was being ENTIRELY serious... :-)
Minicom Supertel ... I remember looking that up either on Ceefax or Oracle...
Superb thanks a lot Classic crimewatch feet up & a Cupa on the go!
Was that definitely Surinder Gil in Comet or someone who just looked like him? That’s what I’m wondering.
Nah it was Sharif from Corrie :p
It was Mahatma Gandhi
That's what I was thinking I wonder if they had cctv in the store being a Comet ,More should have been said on it and why did the car do a u turn back towards Southall, It just doesn't make sense.
The guy in the store knew him
@@RexBanner_ idiots making fun of a dead man
Good night all😁
Splendid
So sad. RIP little one x
Hey CrimeWatchers Xxxxxxx
That was definitely the Stig driving Surinders Mercedes
Re the murder of Christine Lee in Glasgow. All I can find online is news story from May 1990 about the charge of a 19 year old local man with the murder. The details of the crime are quite horrific so I will not post a link. It's not clear if the charge led to a conviction.
Apparently he was a 19 year old with learning issues & I have found on Google Books a book by a Scottish journalist who mentions it & says he was convicted-but doesn't say for how long, I have found another reference that said he was given a recommended fifteen years.
Thanks for protecting us from the news Stuart.
right on time just as I got in
No she did porn before👍
Did he ever get found?
Michael Boulton? His body was found in a cave
Such a shame, seems like a nice lad...
Does anyone know what happened with Michael Boulton, can’t find anything on the internet?
I have a feeling his death was put down to death by misadventure, it was mentioned in a later episode of CW. So wasn't murdered/abducted after all.
How bizarre, must admit I thought a pedophile ring got hold of him,
I had a look and found a pdf file with this info on it
Stoney Middleton
A body found in a cave at Stoney Middleton is
believed to be that of Michael Boulton, aged 16,
who disappeared 13 months ago. Derbyshire C.R.O.
was called in at the time to help Police search for
Michael in caves around the Eyam area, but without
any success.
The body was found in a cavern at the end of a long
crawl. It is known that Michael had been caving with
the scouts and thoroughly enjoyed it.
It is a great pity that his enthusiasm was not directed
towards a local caving club - perhaps this
highlights a need for Caving and Mining Clubs to
establish links with Scouting organisations, to help
educate younger people into the dangers of caving
without the proper equipment.
Hi Dean. I remember watching this episode at the time in April 1990 and being so gripped by it, was eager to find out if there had been any leads. I vividly recall in one of the following months' CWUK episodes (possibly the May episode) Nick Ross providing an update and saying Michael had since been found dead in a cave with the cause of death being due to "natural causes" (I was a child at the time and this was the first time I'd ever heard that expression! As a result it's stuck in my mind all these years)
Thank you for your replies, seems to be a tragic ending for a boy that seemed so lost not only in his personal life but by the way it ended 😢
Why would they feature the Michael Boulton case a year after his disappearance when the trail’s gone cold? He should have been in the June 1989 episode when it was fresh in witness’s memories.
it probably seemed more likely he hadn't been taken, which is what turned out to be the case (eventually found in a cave).
They suspected he decided to leave his home by choice as he was often in care homes. They do say that most people do this and it's not suspicious unless they haven't made any contact for a year or more. Although as he was young they should have shown him earlier.
It is Feb 2020 and we still have not found Michael Boulton! I am so sad!
Read the reply to Jason fray's post. He was found in a cave a year later
I mean no disrespect, but does Nick wear a syrup? 28:40 His hair literally looks like it was lowered onto his head here 🧐
Is March 1990 missing? It appears to have been DC Jackie Haynes’ first episode. Despite seeing this April 1990 episode at the time I have absolutely no memory of Ch. Insp. Colin Fry. I'm not sure if anyone would agree he was no substitute for David Hatcher and probably explains why he did not reappear. It also seems to be emblemic of the time that the female officer was of constable rank while her male colleague is of senior rank. I don't know why they couldn't have just got a police constable of either gender to stand in for him?
Fry was certainly no David Hatcher. Jacqui Hames was my total crush at this point entering my teenage years. She was married to the boss of the dirty squad although they later divorced & their relationship didn't go down too well with yard bosses.
Hi The Dirty Squad?
@@SKisatourist2010 The Obscene Publications Squad-they earned the nickname of the dirty squad because they spent all day watching/looking at porn. At this point it was starting to change-Hames was getting fed up with seizing consenting adult videos & grumble mags & prosecuting people for it, he could see the move was more towards child abuse/exploitation as computers started becoming more prevalent & it was farcical to be chasing after adult porn when kids were being abused & needed rescuing, then the internet & that is what it has focused on since then. th-cam.com/video/DgOU-lbpH9c/w-d-xo.html
Hi oh right. Thanks for the clarification.
March 1990 is now available on my channel: th-cam.com/video/PrIhY7icSec/w-d-xo.html
No wonder no one could find him with all that camouflage,
39:42 Amazing acting!
35:49 the guy playing the murder victim is Sharif from corrie!!
& in another one we’re they tried to steal a lorry, paddy Kirk out of emmerdale is in it & he looks so different with a full head of hair
@@mj3026 yep January 1997
What happened to that young Michael?
Was found in a cave a year later. He went exploring and got lost
Fucking hell
i dread to think on the state of his body after that length of time. must have been a harrowing sad sight
Diesnt say anything anywhere on internet about what happened?
Time for a break from all the studying this weekend.
They don't write them like this anymore.😉
Why does Jacqui wear her uniform if she's a DC? Is it a formality thing. Or did lady detectives have to wear uniforms regardless in the 90s
I think they made her wear a uniform so she'd match up with David Hatcher (or in this case, Colin Fry)
Once Hatcher left the programme around 1999, Jacqui stopped wearing uniforms and started dressing more stylishly
She’s a fox in or out of her uniform.
Never fear, it appears the March 1990 episode has now been uploaded by another member of the CW club th-cam.com/video/PrIhY7icSec/w-d-xo.html. Or is it you, Redcard???
Reminds me a bit of my life story upto his age. Was he ever found ... ????
You mean Michael Boulton? His body was eventually found in a cave. His death was ruled accidental, with no foul play
Poor kid 😢 seemed like a sad boy
WAS THIS JACQUI HAMES' FIRST APPEARANCE????
It's her second appearance.
It was Colin Fry’s first (and only) appearance
@@TimmyTickleMuch prefer him to David ‘Mistosh’ Hatcher who constantly fluffed his lines.
Did they ever find Micheal's remains? . I guess he was declared dead
Poor Michael!
Cannot find anything about Surinder Gill online, assume he was a flash harry type who had borrowed money from the wrong people/ripped off the wrong people, the afternoon was a warning to pay up by that evening or else, or he negotiated a few hours grace. He didn't raise the money & paid the price.
Hi Hi - I suspect that the sales assistant who spoke to him was mistaken about what day he saw him. By that point Surinder would have realised that he was hours late for collecting his daughter from school as planned so even if he had given him a few hours grace, it is strange that he did not make some effort to contact his family just to make an excuse for not collecting the school.
@@meskbren Yes, I thought that might be a possibility-I guess that store didn't keep proper records so we will never know & people are often mistaken about the day they saw people in murder cases, it would make more sense if he was kidnapped & murdered in the afternoon rather than the evening
Yes I agree. I don't think he would have got 'roughed up' and then thought 'Fcuk it, I need a new car phone' as though nothing had happened!!
You might just be right. Or the mobile phone shop confused what day he was in
Buisness deal gone wrong over money not repayed he knew the killers
There is a reward … but we are not going to tell you how much it is!
Of course he was one of yours sweetheart. I know he would have loved u very much and he saw u as mum and dad. He gave u the plate with mum after all. I’m so sorry this happened. I think someone lured him into a car. Rip Micheal sleep tight angel.
Not at all, was a tragic accident. Got found in a cave, sure they think he was exploring it on his own and got confused whilst inside
He got lost in a cave :(
When someone leaves of their own accord _leave them alone_ - a 'reconciliation' can often be a retrograde step for all involved.
People intending to take their own life often leave the family home of their own accord. 'Leaving them alone' is recklessly bad advice.
Did the police find the murderer of the little girl
Local 19 year old lad was caught a few weeks after this episode.Can't find any information on how long a prison sentence he got . He could even be out by now.
Good old c-fax 👍
Oracle was better.
@@Hi-kq1vi think that must of been before my time, don't remember that.
@@rutter1ify it finished at the end of 1992. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORACLE_(teletext)
Antique section is not good. glad they go rid of it in later years.
The surinder gill case is a right strange one and Michael boulton very very sad
Do you know what happened as far as the Michael Boulton case is concerned?
Case is still unsolved unreal
@@ajs41 found dead exploring a cave
Hello fellow crime watchers!!
Why would you be wearing a crash helmet whilst in a car 🚗? Sounds almost bizarre doesnt it .ive never heard of the Michael boulton case never been found to this day
He was found, he was stuck in a cave
Michael Boulton was found dead in a cave. He died of hyperthermia.
John Bly has a much smoother presentational style than Eric Knowles.
Thnks crak open another beer nw
You got more have a go heroes back then. I would say that was due to people not having mobile phones at that time. Or hardly anyone as they weren’t widely available and were expensive. With people having mobile phones nowadays, they don’t have to chase after them they can just call the police. Plus take a video of the offence.
An up to date phone these days starts off at like 400 quid, then there’s all the scamming contracts
@@Thenorthsace certainly does. Don’t remind me about the scammers either!! 🤣🤣
ohh on this 1 got the up dates 2