Sue Cook and Nick Ross present. Cases include the murders of Tom Griffiths in Cricklewood, London and Vera Anderson in Widnes. There is also the case of the disappearance of Andrew Elphick.
I'm getting Crimewatch binge watch burnout (I never thought I'd say that because I've been hoping for years to see these old episodes!) and might have to stagger my viewing. Especially with the late 90s (my era!) episodes from Andy JS now, too! Hugs, gang!
Interstat why not break up the burnout with a crimewatch file or realcrime uk? Andy and Redcard have really spoiled us, haven't they? Like you i thought I'd never get to see the 90s episodes.
@@reevespeterson I would have thought the 90s episodes would be more likely to appear than the 80s episodes given that a lot more people had video machines in the 90s.
That was a pretty fine piece of acting for the first reconstruction. The actor played the part of the first victim really well, I almost believed he wasn't acting and was really drunk
19:44 absolutely hilarious how Andrews 'friend' emphasises that although they were on his bed, and they were kissing and cuddling, they were 'FULLY CLOTHED' 😂😂
Please upload some new episodes tonight, i am having very bad withdrawals, I can't wait to watch Feb and March and April 1992, I've already watched may and june of 1992. Thanking you.
Ah yes! This was the case I mentioned before. The disappearance of the wannabe drug baron. Odd case but seems like he had some sort of double life. Sounds like he got out of his depth, but an interesting reconstruction with lots of appeal points. I can't help thinking some of them are red herrings and that it may be a bit of BS. Phonecall at 3am for example, the mysterious £5k. Intriging case.
If he was even more obnoxious than the way the actor portrayed him then you can see why he got killed. Probably ripped off some dealers or skimmed some of the product for himself & thought he was too much of a big shot for them to do anything about it. Similar to the first case in a different way-the old guy was another unsympathetic character who made a nuisance of himself & tried picking fights in the street with guys who could tear him apart. Probably meant less people were inclined to help.
@@nickimontford Nick Davies is great-have his 1997 book Dark Heart which I haven't got round to reading yet. Elphick comes across like con-men do-everything is an illusion, money that is borrowed or stolen, everything on hire purchase, flaunting his imaginary wealth in others faces to belittle them & make him look & feel important. He was an insecure & sad individual motivated purely by ego & money. Either these two bumped him off or he screwed up a deal for them, or he took himself off somewhere & killed himself-knowing he had screwed up badly with all the debt & trouble he had caused.
@@Starlord80s You could certainly see that happening as he was totally lost/naive in that world, sounds like they took him for a ride before he went missing.
I'm impressed how they were able to license well known pop songs to use in the backgrounds of the recreations. A lot of modern true crime shows just use generic music for scenes like that. Shows like this and Unsolved Mysteries or Forensic Files from the 1990s have a level of production value that's rare in true crime shows today
Crimewatch is such excellent social history. In the 80s, particularly 80-87, much of the UK was going through deindustrialisation and as a result things were pretty grim. Lots of grey derelict buildings and unemployment going through the roof, fueling crime and riots. 87-89 saw the economy perk up and we became much more of a consumer society. But by 1991 (when this episode was made) the economy had plunged into deep recession again, and unemployment and crime started to surge yet again. The early 90s was the time when many people had their homes repossessed and by 1993, unemployment had rocketed to 3 million again. In 1991 there was also a number of riots again. Crime reached a peak in the UK c. 1992 and then started to decline for a variety of reasons. As of 2023, crime reached its lowest ever level.
@@dickiegreenleaf750 I remember those shoes being very popular in 1990 and 1991, and kids at school all wanting something similar. I suppose the early 90s were pretty much a continuation of the 80s.
That was a heartbreaking episode of crimewatch uk for someone to kill a old man with Alzheimer's is just indescribable and the killing of that young mother in her car and I hope justice caught up in them two shocking crimes and also thank Redcard74 for your time in downloading the crimewatch uk episodes past and present
in the first story where the old guy with parkinson's was murdered man that had to be the ugliest shoe i've ever laid eyes on. can't even imagine why somebody would wear one let alone a pair.
Terrible feet, though. Looks as though she bought them from a joke shop. www.gettyimages.ca/detail/news-photo/portrait-of-television-presenter-and-author-sue-cook-news-photo/1061786990 No wonder she kept them out of sight under the desk.
Agreed, drove to the location to buy drugs, deal went wrong and he was probably killed, maybe by accident, maybe on purpose. I would have assumed the dealers/ people who killed would have disposed of the body. Not been found, many people involved are probably still alive today ..
@@ZeroNiteLite yep cant argue with that. you rip off other drug dealers. one day soon they will come looking for you. dog eat dog business by the sound of it.
People are rude in the US and U.K if they heard they neighbors shouting in the middle of the night they don't call the police to ensure that person's safety.
That's because it's pretty common in a city or large town to hear neighbours shouting in the middle of the night. They're usually just drunk or having a domestic.
I agree with KS. In larger cities there is usually more noise (including shouting and arguing etc) and sometimes it can occur at all hours (especially in the heart of the city and inner city areas) I think a lot of people these days don't want to get involved and think it's best to stay out of things (mostly for safety concerns real or imagined) regardless of what country they live in. Personally if I knew for sure someone was getting seriously hurt then I would definitely call up and I have in the past...
@@Marzi29 Agree entirely, it’s the same with car alarms. They go off all the time but would you call the police? Probably not unless you saw someone trying to break into it.
i was the girl he was going to go on date night he went missing i was way younger he never showed i went to ballet school with sashas sister alex wescourt sasha arranged the date
@@carolinefinnweston212 Its a very sad case i hope one day someone gets charged over his murder .. poor lad .. someone did it and some one knows who. glad you doing OK though.
Vera’s doing night calls and moonlighting’ …She’s obviously backed out last minute and sorry, ended up with cold feet? The guy has taken offence and his other glove with his dna on it!
19:09 - Andrew Elphick's friend in the reconstruction, is that the same actor who took part in Crimewatch's fake robbery experiment in their April 1991 episode? Looks like the same guy.
The Andrew Elphick case still unsolved. The "Loadsa Money" culture of the 1980s seems to have gone to his head and he became delusional about his own success. He appears to have got in way too deep with drugs dealers, who took full advantage of his naivety.
It’s officially unsolved but he was my mums cousin and our family are pretty sure on what happened. People we know say he was beat to death with a bat, just never found the body.
Was the Tom Griffiths case ever solved? He looked like he possibly owed someone money or a deal gone bad? Hate to say it but it did look like he lived a double life. Andrew Elphick sadly looks like he was done in by the drugs' underworld.
@@SuperTed19021 Tom Griffiths seemed like a drunken old pest who pissed someone off and Andrew Elphick was a silly little boy who got taught a lesson by the big boys.
Helen Phelps was ALWAYS better suited to the role in terms of being a listenable voice, compared with the more highly strung sounded voice of Jacqui. I could listen to it all day and never feel that it was grating.
@@letsdiscussitoversometea8479 A voice that could melt wrought iron. But, was there a slight lisp? I recall one occasion when it definitely sounded as if she described a gay man as being ‘homothexual’. Nevertheless, a great asset to the programme and who was retained as part of the production team. 🤵♂️
@@LANCSKID yes, you're right about that lisp (or "lithp", as we jokingly used to refer to it as). She also on one or two occasions pronounced "Pound", as opposed to "Pounds" in terms of currency. Given the choice between Helen and Jacqui, I think I'd still go with Helen - just easier to tolerate when discussing something very difficult.
The sketch artist seems to be color blind. He/she makes all the sketches look that of black males when they clearly state the race white. Even the ones with blonde hair they make the face look black.Truly funny.
I'm getting Crimewatch binge watch burnout (I never thought I'd say that because I've been hoping for years to see these old episodes!) and might have to stagger my viewing. Especially with the late 90s (my era!) episodes from Andy JS now, too! Hugs, gang!
Interstat why not break up the burnout with a crimewatch file or realcrime uk? Andy and Redcard have really spoiled us, haven't they? Like you i thought I'd never get to see the 90s episodes.
@@reevespeterson I would have thought the 90s episodes would be more likely to appear than the 80s episodes given that a lot more people had video machines in the 90s.
@@ajs41 You would think a lot of the 2020s so far belonged in the late 2000s.
That was a pretty fine piece of acting for the first reconstruction. The actor played the part of the first victim really well, I almost believed he wasn't acting and was really drunk
Method actor, he turned up half cut 😅
You'll never beat the Old Man off Rita Sue & Bob Too, it's incredible he was sober while filming that
@@drexlspivey5828I see we have a scholar and a cleric on the 80s... Go well...
19:44 absolutely hilarious how Andrews 'friend' emphasises that although they were on his bed, and they were kissing and cuddling, they were 'FULLY CLOTHED' 😂😂
For some reason I took her completely at face value until seeing your post.
It does happen.
AKA 'dry humping'
Comedy wasn’t it 😆😆😆
She was defo on all fours
Andrew was only 21 and already getting into serious crime. What a sad loss 🙄
As a footnote I'd add this was a very memorable episode, unusual to feature three mysteries too rather than a robbery of some kind
And all unsolved?
Was 4 minutes into Andy’s December ‘91 upload when the notification for this came up, so obviously had to watch this first! 😆
Wow early upload thx redcard u are so unpredictable now a days you sneaky little Reefa😂😂😂
🤣 🤣 🤣
Cheers RedCard74! Many thanks once again!
11 Mins Criminal or not I would never own up to those trainers.
😃😃
Z
They would have looked great with a 1991 shell suit
Hahahahaha
@@michaelc3051 like savile in 2009
Remember Nick Ross saying someone had called in saying “I didn’t mean to kill him” from the time.
Dude was probably on about his goldfish. Lol.
Cheers Redcard. This is it, first one I saw. And with Andy uploading December 91....in for a good day.
RC doesn't have December? Better get over to Andy's channel again then.
@@Hi-kq1vi yeah Andy stuck it up this morning as well.
Super early upload, thank you. Hello fellow Crimewatcher's.
Thank thank you thank you I’m loving this Xxxxxxxxxxx
Vera Anderson and lynne trenholm murders still unsolved to this day
And Andrew Elphick?
@@andrewsmith2757 Unsolved :(
@@andrewsmith2757 I take it they still haven't found Andrew Elphick's body/remains.
Vera Anderson was murdered half a mile from my house. It was a friend of mine who found her. He had to have counselling afterwards.
Andrew Elphick still unsolved :( thanks also for the new uploads great having a ball watching this afternoon
Apparently police know how he died but still can't find the body.
Involved with big Charlie deal
But couldn't keep his mouth shut
So time to go 🙈
I think andrew is still alive
@@pauladavies7944 TBH, I was thinking the same. Even that tip off about how he allegedly died seemed suspicious. It all looks incredibly staged.
Thanks redcard! Doesn't look like February is available at the moment, so looking forward to March!
Home from work in bed recovering from a slight car accident bit bruised but ok. Just need to rest, and watching these
Hope your recovering well
Hope you're better now.
Hope you've fully recovered.
Please upload some new episodes tonight, i am having very bad withdrawals, I can't wait to watch Feb and March and April 1992, I've already watched may and june of 1992. Thanking you.
Thank you :)
7:52 am, what a wake up call, cheers Redcard! Afternoon everyone!
Ah yes! This was the case I mentioned before. The disappearance of the wannabe drug baron. Odd case but seems like he had some sort of double life. Sounds like he got out of his depth, but an interesting reconstruction with lots of appeal points. I can't help thinking some of them are red herrings and that it may be a bit of BS. Phonecall at 3am for example, the mysterious £5k. Intriging case.
If he was even more obnoxious than the way the actor portrayed him then you can see why he got killed. Probably ripped off some dealers or skimmed some of the product for himself & thought he was too much of a big shot for them to do anything about it. Similar to the first case in a different way-the old guy was another unsympathetic character who made a nuisance of himself & tried picking fights in the street with guys who could tear him apart. Probably meant less people were inclined to help.
@@nickimontford Nick Davies is great-have his 1997 book Dark Heart which I haven't got round to reading yet.
Elphick comes across like con-men do-everything is an illusion, money that is borrowed or stolen, everything on hire purchase, flaunting his imaginary wealth in others faces to belittle them & make him look & feel important. He was an insecure & sad individual motivated purely by ego & money. Either these two bumped him off or he screwed up a deal for them, or he took himself off somewhere & killed himself-knowing he had screwed up badly with all the debt & trouble he had caused.
Mutley The Glen t
@@Starlord80s You could certainly see that happening as he was totally lost/naive in that world, sounds like they took him for a ride before he went missing.
On the Tom Griffiths case, the detective looks like the photofit.
Exactly what I was thinking 🤔
Ha, ha, ha! Yes, he does!
@@debbiechefpalma 44
Psyops
Omg yh he does
I'm impressed how they were able to license well known pop songs to use in the backgrounds of the recreations. A lot of modern true crime shows just use generic music for scenes like that. Shows like this and Unsolved Mysteries or Forensic Files from the 1990s have a level of production value that's rare in true crime shows today
That's a criminal offence wearing those pony basketball trainers. They are shocking.😉
🤣 🤣 🤣
They all wear them in Brighton don't they??? 😆
@@jimmorrison3756 Reply to this comment next time you are in brighton and ill show you what we wear.
@@mad-pit3832 No you're alright
Brighton is full of shirtlifter's 👊
They are vile.
More crime watch episodes please!!!!!
6:27-still there arguing with two guys-one white, one black. Guess CW couldn't find any black actors that month.
@@almadavis8274 p
I know right shocking
🤣 🤣 🤣
Black suspects matter
@@BossySwan hahaha you're so funny! NOT!
Omg remember the old bt phonecards for the phone box... how me and my mates communicated 😂😂
Sad.
@@nathaniliescu4597 u sure are!
Trish Goddard?
@@nathaniliescu4597 your trying too hard
"The past is a different country. They do things differently there."
Crimewatch is such excellent social history. In the 80s, particularly 80-87, much of the UK was going through deindustrialisation and as a result things were pretty grim. Lots of grey derelict buildings and unemployment going through the roof, fueling crime and riots. 87-89 saw the economy perk up and we became much more of a consumer society. But by 1991 (when this episode was made) the economy had plunged into deep recession again, and unemployment and crime started to surge yet again. The early 90s was the time when many people had their homes repossessed and by 1993, unemployment had rocketed to 3 million again. In 1991 there was also a number of riots again. Crime reached a peak in the UK c. 1992 and then started to decline for a variety of reasons. As of 2023, crime reached its lowest ever level.
That presenter on Aladdin is so irritating. He’s not funny or clever.
Lol don’t try to sound too personal 😂
Eric ‘I know it all’ Knowles … the man who said that Mozart’s Christian name was ‘Yo’.
13:05 WAS HE THREATENING TO SHOOT A CAT IF THE BANK WOULDN'T GIVE HIM THE MONEY???????? ;*(
What I liked was when Nick used to say we don't want you to tell us the name of the actor portraying the person
Because people really ARE that dumb.
You really spoil us RC74 !!!
@16:45 perfect choice of song and band. ✔️😁👍🎶
1991 brought us some damn fugly shoes.
Lol that looks like it was left over from the 80s. Can’t forget the ugly green and pink
@@dickiegreenleaf750 I remember those shoes being very popular in 1990 and 1991, and kids at school all wanting something similar. I suppose the early 90s were pretty much a continuation of the 80s.
@@th8257 They were and these idiots all commenting just couldn't afford a pair, today they fetch 1oos.
25:32-Jacqui out on location in full uniform
Hi SarGe JaCKqui hameS waS Pr€tty Then
@@georgeminnit7645 still is pretty
WPC 56
I had to take some extra heart pills.
Love crimewatch nostalgia, also Sue had the best hairstyle that year
They really should bring the old skool format of Crimewatch back and have that awful creepy ex copper 'Rav' have nothing to do with it.
Aladin's Cave takes antiques road show up a notch.
Hosted by a noodle.
that time again nice one redcard74
Hope Redcard is okay, missing my nightly crimewatch uploads!!!
Poor Tom, was murdered on my 21st Birthday.
Don’t worry I’ll inform Reuters news agency with that exclusive news 😂
I fucking love this music
That was a heartbreaking episode of crimewatch uk for someone to kill a old man with Alzheimer's is just indescribable and the killing of that young mother in her car and I hope justice caught up in them two shocking crimes and also thank Redcard74 for your time in downloading the crimewatch uk episodes past and present
12:31 I've seen that guy in Walford, London.
ugh why, why do these crimes have to happen
Been happening since Cain and Abel, sadly.
in the first story where the old guy with parkinson's was murdered man that had to be the ugliest shoe i've ever laid eyes on. can't even imagine why somebody would wear one let alone a pair.
referred to a having a "distinctive sole"
whole thing was fairly distinctive lmao
Welcome to the early 90s.
And worth hundreds now.
They were horrid.
sacha wescourt is a lush looking lad even better now he is older ...
Behave yourself. You worry me.
R. I. E. P Tom ❤️🙏💔
Morning Upload?! ☕️ Noice! Morning everyone! 😁
Wow.
CCTV was so much clearer back then
Pony trainers come onnnnn😜🤣🤣
Welcome to the early 90s
very spooky this one
I never realised how attractive Sue Cook was back then. Beautiful hair.
Yes, I used to tell her so frequently.
Sue looking particularly chic.
💯
Nice hair too
Terrible feet, though. Looks as though she bought them from a joke shop.
www.gettyimages.ca/detail/news-photo/portrait-of-television-presenter-and-author-sue-cook-news-photo/1061786990
No wonder she kept them out of sight under the desk.
@@janettemohan5056 One of her toes is in business for itself.
Looks like her coke days
Vera's pal in the pub is that shadrach dingle from emmerdale? 🤔
anthony littler yes.
Another slag
@@chiefinspectorduvall6073 Even if a person is has you say a slag does not mean they deserve to die mate
@@chiefinspectorduvall6073 another idiot.
Yes!
1st and last drug deal by the sound of it. Was he ever found?
Agreed, drove to the location to buy drugs, deal went wrong and he was probably killed, maybe by accident, maybe on purpose. I would have assumed the dealers/ people who killed would have disposed of the body. Not been found, many people involved are probably still alive today ..
@@ZeroNiteLite yep cant argue with that. you rip off other drug dealers. one day
soon they will come looking for you. dog eat dog business by the sound of it.
@@ZeroNiteLite Super extreme punishment to kill the young guy over a dodgy drug deal, but not a surprise
How does he know he's the same person who came out of the flats he could just have been running down the road
Very coincidental that he walks past a dead old man minutes after he'd been bashed, he's clearly a prime suspect
Hello Hello Hello CW gang!
Bollocks
It's pronounced ello ello ello
At least Tom never had to worry about where he was getting his next drink, Jesus...
Vera Anderson killed by Peter Tobin? He was a lorry driver all over the country. If not, a lorry driver she worked with.
Na - Tobin preyed on young girls
Peter did not work or did he do truck driving tobin was a mooch and out of work ..
It's possible if they know if he was working at the time. I think he was on the sick or on benefits in the 90s but he could have been off the books
Poor Mike getting a 5 minute slot at the massage parlour 😂 🤣 Blondies Sunday client list 🤫
People are rude in the US and U.K if they heard they neighbors shouting in the middle of the night they don't call the police to ensure that person's safety.
That's because it's pretty common in a city or large town to hear neighbours shouting in the middle of the night. They're usually just drunk or having a domestic.
I agree with KS. In larger cities there is usually more noise (including shouting and arguing etc) and sometimes it can occur at all hours (especially in the heart of the city and inner city areas)
I think a lot of people these days don't want to get involved and think it's best to stay out of things (mostly for safety concerns real or imagined) regardless of what country they live in.
Personally if I knew for sure someone was getting seriously hurt then I would definitely call up and I have in the past...
Follicle turn the telly up
@@Marzi29 Agree entirely, it’s the same with car alarms. They go off all the time but would you call the police? Probably not unless you saw someone trying to break into it.
Stop comparing us to your shitty country...
Andrews friend Sasha is hot .
Not
i was the girl he was going to go on date night he went missing i was way younger he never showed i went to ballet school with sashas sister alex wescourt sasha arranged the date
@@carolinefinnweston212 Its a very sad case i hope one day someone gets charged over his murder .. poor lad .. someone did it and some one knows who. glad you doing OK though.
Vera’s doing night calls and moonlighting’ …She’s obviously backed out last minute and sorry, ended up with cold feet? The guy has taken offence and his other glove with his dna on it!
I think I bought those sneakers for 50p in saint Vincent de Paul in cricklewood last week. Is it worth calling it in?
Yes
Nope No No body cares
More like covering your own arse, no one outside the 80's would buy them, fact :)
@@alex123case they were very popular in the early 90s. But I guess the early 90s were pretty much a continuation of the 80s.
Definitely. Best to give yourself up.
Vera Anderson murder two people were arrested and released on 27 th march 2022 30 years after the offence in Widnes
Hello all
Portable phone😂😂😂
Portable car phone
Portable phones will catch one I reckon
I'm watching crimewatch on a portable phone! 😅
19:09 - Andrew Elphick's friend in the reconstruction, is that the same actor who took part in Crimewatch's fake robbery experiment in their April 1991 episode? Looks like the same guy.
i wondered that too, i'm sure it's him
It is him. Definitely.
Who cares
Great spot
Yeah nobody gives a shit
I wonder if Gemma Collins ever got her tiara back? Lol 41:42
No but i want it 😂
Thank you 😂👈
@Pat C sue.marskell@hotmail.com
I thought it was Katie Price’s piece of old toot …
I thought it was a young Cliff Richard at first!
Obviously a drug deal gone wrong
no...
it's a beating over an argument
For Andrew Elphick, *defiantly!*
The Andrew Elphick case still unsolved. The "Loadsa Money" culture of the 1980s seems to have gone to his head and he became delusional about his own success. He appears to have got in way too deep with drugs dealers, who took full advantage of his naivety.
It’s officially unsolved but he was my mums cousin and our family are pretty sure on what happened. People we know say he was beat to death with a bat, just never found the body.
Jacqui outdoors in uniform, including the hat! Phwoarrr!
The man who punched the guy must have been the killer . You would not just punch sombody for acidently bumping into you.
He "Ca2n imagine whatbit is like to miss your meat dishes"?! 😨😅😅
Here's some news : Most people would not concider a meat dish a sentimental loss.
is that shadrach from emmerdale in the vera anderson reconstruction?
I thought it was Roy Marsden at first-but he was too big a name to be doing that.
It was old Shaddy.
A red Austin Princess no less!
I almost expected him to say that they wouldn't get very far away
Was the murder of Tom Griffiths solved?
No.
The little mouse by the wheel of the caravan at 38.15
So shat
It is at 30.02 ...
Andrew body never found!!! wow
Was the Tom Griffiths case ever solved? He looked like he possibly owed someone money or a deal gone bad? Hate to say it but it did look like he lived a double life. Andrew Elphick sadly looks like he was done in by the drugs' underworld.
None of thsee crimes have been solved
@@chiefinspectorduvall6073 *Sad.*
@@SuperTed19021 Tom Griffiths seemed like a drunken old pest who pissed someone off and Andrew Elphick was a silly little boy who got taught a lesson by the big boys.
Jacqui Hames has the most wonderful voice
And that’s not all …
Helen Phelps was ALWAYS better suited to the role in terms of being a listenable voice, compared with the more highly strung sounded voice of Jacqui.
I could listen to it all day and never feel that it was grating.
@@letsdiscussitoversometea8479 A voice that could melt wrought iron. But, was there a slight lisp? I recall one occasion when it definitely sounded as if she described a gay man as being ‘homothexual’. Nevertheless, a great asset to the programme and who was retained as part of the production team. 🤵♂️
@@LANCSKID yes, you're right about that lisp (or "lithp", as we jokingly used to refer to it as).
She also on one or two occasions pronounced "Pound", as opposed to "Pounds" in terms of currency.
Given the choice between Helen and Jacqui, I think I'd still go with Helen - just easier to tolerate when discussing something very difficult.
That Pony shoe is SOOO 1991.
14:48-Kevin Spacey.
ahh the good ole days when you could get a graft done proper
Andrew Elphick was a good looking guy.
Dealers chopped him up thrown to the fish in tilbury
When the guy pulled out the bat phone was he calling robin loooooool
I absolutely love photocall
Yes, especially when they feature Neanderthals
Did u watch the cw about little Daniel Hadley 💔💔💔🙏😕
Love the aladins cave
Survival isnot Life
I'm guessing Tom was the victim of sombody trying to rob him
Lie in viewing on Sunday morning
Sue was bloody gorgeous not nice but model gorgeous back then.
And she hasn't lost her looks, she's still a beaut!
That guys a graduated meatdish
I want that pony training shoe
To sniff it?
The sketch artist seems to be color blind. He/she makes all the sketches look that of black males when they clearly state the race white. Even the ones with blonde hair they make the face look black.Truly funny.
The ‘sketch artist’ is in fact a five year-old …
Asking for it!
Who?
What?